The man needed a PR team to keep him gagged. It sounds like Peter suffers from “Diarrhea of the Mouth” where he literally just doesn’t know how to shut up. It is interesting to see an attempt to create something that couldn’t be created at the time.
I remember seeing this shit and immediately thinking " Who cares? The Kinect is shit". Then I went back to playing The Legend of Gaylo. That said, I do have some degree of respect for Peter. He's been involved on some truly fantastic games to ever grace our screens. So hopefully he gives us something great some time in the future. AI has takens several leaps and bounds since then though we need more time still.
As for how to get another Black & White game, since nobody technically owns it, it would also technically mean nobody holds the copyright or trademark, leaving it in copyright/trademark limbo. This means the only hope is to let that run out and have another studio snap it up when it does.
I remember watching it as a casual and thinking "that's cool" and unfortunately being one of those guys that got fooled. My son was young at the time and it mostly sounded feasible so my mindset was "Cool, it's something he could play with" It's easy to look at it now and say "lol dumb people believed it" but a surprising amount of the tech was actually real and it was the presentation that was faked. Given where our current AI tech is I think it could have been cooked for a few more years to get something approximating the promise. In the end I did have a Kinect and I did buy Kinectimals (an absolute waste of money) and a few other things, including the Star Wars stuff. They were mostly bad, but it was for my young son and he loved playing with it and the Wii stuff so I didn't feel "scammed" as much as everyone else. But it did make me finally realise how much of a liar Peter was and I never touched anything related to him ever again. The funny thing is, current AI can do this kinda of stuff, to varying degrees and it's......pretty boring. I mean I chuckle at Neurosama and stuff but it's not great. Had Milo existed as the intended "game" it'd be very boring.
I think the difference between No Man's Sky and Peter is that Peter has a track record of doing these rug pulls, while Hello Games really intended to include all the promised features. Hello Games were railroaded on the Hype Train, but for Molyneux, it was Tuesday.
Amazing cope. The only difference is that Peter is a repeat offender. No one had a gun to their heads and made them promise features that were not even remote possibilities at the time. They are victims only of their inability to shut their mouths. Hello Games just EVENTUALLY built the game they promised. But they also tried to pass off a fully scripted gameplay trailer as emergent gameplay, which is exactly what Peter did in this video.
I just thought about something, the best liars were the people who made you believe something mattered or was real. Let's be honest if we just believed that milo was sentient, and we didn't question too far into it, would we even realize it? This is where we are at with AI chatbots, they quite literally are a more advanced version of milo that is more believable. Of course, you can still break them by being weird or extremely persistent. So, it was making people believe the dream before the tech was there, and of course if you can bring the tech up to date or keep it faster than the masses perception you don't have a "lie" you have a product that does what it says. The problem is that people questioned it because it wasn't believable instead of "rp'ing" with it and indulging in the fantasy. Looking back at it, you can see it was all lies because you know better now, but that was the whole business "spinning lies into fairy dust" effectively fiction story telling except the guy who said, "gotcha" at the end was a game maker who profited on it. It's hard to separate your game and its fiction from real life when you're selling the fictional story. That's entertainment at its core though, so being angry at someone for not telling us the actual technical specs when trying to sell a fictional world makes little sense, it's like the magician showing you how the trick works, and it's no longer magic.
Todd howard doesnt often really lie, but he does make claims that sound better than they really are, or are too vague to really be caught as a lie. For example "16 times the detail" and "4x the (map) size" his famous fallout 76 claims are not lies, fallout 4 had surprisingly low resolution textures that were very poorly compressed. And optimized. And just because a map is big does not mean there's much in it, as starfield further points out. Even no mans sky rarely outright lied, as features they were working on were discussed. But when they were scrapped, the fans believed those features were still promised. Which is less an international lie and more of a failure to understand developer/audience communication dynamics. Todd is a shyster and a crook and knows how to talk up a feature without actually saying anything about it. For example starfield had him mention base building and outposts but he very slyly avoids mentioning any quality, improvements or even purpose to outposts except material farming. He talks it up like base building is a new idea, not like it was the only new feature in fallout 4.and why? Because they did it even nore basic and clunky than fallout 4.
peter molyneux is based, i also don't think he was lying, but getting ahead of himself and making promises upon ideas, that would require too many resources to execute
What we were promised: Neuro with motion sensing for interaction.
What we got: creepy HD remake of Pacman 2 for SNES mixed with Hey You Pikachu
The man needed a PR team to keep him gagged. It sounds like Peter suffers from “Diarrhea of the Mouth” where he literally just doesn’t know how to shut up. It is interesting to see an attempt to create something that couldn’t be created at the time.
Like a Jew.
You konw when you really explain the concept over again thats holy shit super sus. "Gamer's desire to talk to a 10 year old child"
I remember seeing this shit and immediately thinking " Who cares? The Kinect is shit". Then I went back to playing The Legend of Gaylo.
That said, I do have some degree of respect for Peter. He's been involved on some truly fantastic games to ever grace our screens. So hopefully he gives us something great some time in the future. AI has takens several leaps and bounds since then though we need more time still.
As for how to get another Black & White game, since nobody technically owns it, it would also technically mean nobody holds the copyright or trademark, leaving it in copyright/trademark limbo. This means the only hope is to let that run out and have another studio snap it up when it does.
26:55 player says in an upbeat voice (because of a disorder) "today was the worst day of my life!" AI response "haha! that was a good one!"
And a few years later peter took his talents of lying his ass off and put it towards a Kickstarter game and crypto so he did fit in nicely
I remember watching it as a casual and thinking "that's cool" and unfortunately being one of those guys that got fooled.
My son was young at the time and it mostly sounded feasible so my mindset was "Cool, it's something he could play with"
It's easy to look at it now and say "lol dumb people believed it" but a surprising amount of the tech was actually real and it was the presentation that was faked.
Given where our current AI tech is I think it could have been cooked for a few more years to get something approximating the promise.
In the end I did have a Kinect and I did buy Kinectimals (an absolute waste of money) and a few other things, including the Star Wars stuff.
They were mostly bad, but it was for my young son and he loved playing with it and the Wii stuff so I didn't feel "scammed" as much as everyone else.
But it did make me finally realise how much of a liar Peter was and I never touched anything related to him ever again.
The funny thing is, current AI can do this kinda of stuff, to varying degrees and it's......pretty boring.
I mean I chuckle at Neurosama and stuff but it's not great.
Had Milo existed as the intended "game" it'd be very boring.
The Kinect was probably one of the worst things to ever happen to gaming.
Motion controls as a whole were kinda wierd. Neat idea but lacking the tech to make it a functional reality
I need an Alana body pillow but I know my wife would take it away so she could use it.
What's funny is that we could probably actually make this now.
I think the difference between No Man's Sky and Peter is that Peter has a track record of doing these rug pulls, while Hello Games really intended to include all the promised features. Hello Games were railroaded on the Hype Train, but for Molyneux, it was Tuesday.
Amazing cope.
The only difference is that Peter is a repeat offender. No one had a gun to their heads and made them promise features that were not even remote possibilities at the time. They are victims only of their inability to shut their mouths.
Hello Games just EVENTUALLY built the game they promised. But they also tried to pass off a fully scripted gameplay trailer as emergent gameplay, which is exactly what Peter did in this video.
You know, if any other old man obsessed over a small boy as much a Peter did, the cops would be callled
Peter was just a Todd Howard who got caught
Peter is one of the biggest conman in history. Hell I’d even say he’s worst than Todd Howard.
oooof. I remember this. I thought it was very promising but also weird and not for me.
Saw rhe original, love your reaction
2:45 And those that do are probably on a watch list.
If you watch Blade Runner, you'll know what a blush respond is.
I just thought about something, the best liars were the people who made you believe something mattered or was real. Let's be honest if we just believed that milo was sentient, and we didn't question too far into it, would we even realize it? This is where we are at with AI chatbots, they quite literally are a more advanced version of milo that is more believable. Of course, you can still break them by being weird or extremely persistent. So, it was making people believe the dream before the tech was there, and of course if you can bring the tech up to date or keep it faster than the masses perception you don't have a "lie" you have a product that does what it says. The problem is that people questioned it because it wasn't believable instead of "rp'ing" with it and indulging in the fantasy.
Looking back at it, you can see it was all lies because you know better now, but that was the whole business "spinning lies into fairy dust" effectively fiction story telling except the guy who said, "gotcha" at the end was a game maker who profited on it. It's hard to separate your game and its fiction from real life when you're selling the fictional story. That's entertainment at its core though, so being angry at someone for not telling us the actual technical specs when trying to sell a fictional world makes little sense, it's like the magician showing you how the trick works, and it's no longer magic.
48:19
Well the IP is dead but If people want to make a God Sim than they can. Just like Dungeon Keeper clones are a thing.
46:36 Well. We are almost there.
I was Milo Has Changed to be a meme.
Audio again Alana. Look at the OBS sound of each voice and try to keep them close pls.
Todd Howard gets the reputation for lying, but I think Peter Molyneux is actually a bigger liar.
Todd howard doesnt often really lie, but he does make claims that sound better than they really are, or are too vague to really be caught as a lie.
For example "16 times the detail" and "4x the (map) size" his famous fallout 76 claims are not lies, fallout 4 had surprisingly low resolution textures that were very poorly compressed. And optimized. And just because a map is big does not mean there's much in it, as starfield further points out.
Even no mans sky rarely outright lied, as features they were working on were discussed. But when they were scrapped, the fans believed those features were still promised. Which is less an international lie and more of a failure to understand developer/audience communication dynamics.
Todd is a shyster and a crook and knows how to talk up a feature without actually saying anything about it. For example starfield had him mention base building and outposts but he very slyly avoids mentioning any quality, improvements or even purpose to outposts except material farming. He talks it up like base building is a new idea, not like it was the only new feature in fallout 4.and why? Because they did it even nore basic and clunky than fallout 4.
these conmen are the enemy of every gamer :(
How old is she?
peter molyneux is based, i also don't think he was lying, but getting ahead of himself and making promises upon ideas, that would require too many resources to execute
Take a look at what sniper wolf did
old news, id rather her cover something not so thoroughly recycled already