Soviet-Era Computers Live On at Club 8-Bit | Show Me Your Nerd
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2019
- Welcome to Club 8-Bit, Ukraine's best retirement home for retro Soviet computers. Check out the huge collection of ZX Spectrums, Ataris, and more.
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Absolutely horrific end to this beautiful story. The fact that this history collection is history now does not make it any less of an achievement. I hope it will live on on many memories.
Не представляю что ты сейчас чувствуешь... Лучи поддержки, когда-то это все кончится. Уничтожена целая эпоха.
чувствует прилив донатов а железки скорее
не сгорели их разворовали местные архаровцы
@@delitracker какй же отмороженной рашистской мразью нужно быть, чтобы написать такое о человеке, чья жизнь разрушена подлой путинской войной
I'm aware there are much greater losses of life and liberty to be worried about, but it _really_ sucks that this whole collection is destroyed now (according to the owner's website, easy to find, probably can't post a link here but you'll figure it out). I'm glad Dmitry seems to be safe. A true kindred spirit half a world away, it would be awful for the global retro computing community to lose him.
Soviet computers are interesting because they're a very particular piece of computing history. Often clones or home-grown machines made in the USSR because of the difficulty of getting American and British products on the other side of the Iron Curtain. It's not like how we can look at Amstrad's Wikipedia page to find out everything about their older computers. Actual physical examples of the machines made in the USSR are precious in a historical sense, because they may never have been documented.
My heart sank when I saw that this was in Mariupol.
Same
Soviet era computers are so cool and fascinating!
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@@marcelomarquez2089 ????
Forget Marcelo, yes they where... theay really created a parallel world of computing... and there so much to uncover from that time still...
Дружище. Скажи, что музей уцелел, пожалуйста =(
I really hope this museum stays intact in Mariupol.
The museum was destroyed by bombing, the author wrote on his blog.
@@fourdelta0ne Sad.
@@fourdelta0ne not bombed, fire in basement ... possible he is lieing to get donete money
@@delitracker *lying
Excellent Collection!!!
I hope that all stuff survived 🙏
it did not survived, all the museum was destroyed in the Russian invation.
@@rony12345ification ehh
@@rony12345ification but it's still hope they evacuated these computers
Everything in Soviet Union was industrial grade.
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Even hunger...
weak plastic that's leaking chemicals, brittle pcbs, shitty keyboards, power supplies that would catch fire, yeah sure it's industrial grade
@@chepushila1 that’s a joke right 😂 Russia was constantly struggling with food. Majority of their food had to be imported because the farms couldn’t keep up
@@eddydelvalle3713 Cough Cough Great Depression 1929-1941 Cough Cough
Was everything destroyed, or it was possible to recover some of the machines? :_(
now its gone
LOVE 'EM ALL!
This is definitely awesome👍
cool didnt see the red Agate 8 bit havent seen any upclose pics or anything on it
Дааа! когда говорят про денди - моё детство именно из Atari 65xe и Спектрума состояло. Ну и где были - игровые автоматы. А денди пришло в 92-93 уже и воспринималось как-то по детски уже.
супер колекцыя, я тоже мечтаю ее увидеть своими глазами, РЕСПЕКТ
Greetings from Denmark - Hope you are ok!
I want a soviet made computer or close replica so bad.
Quite easy to find on eBay.
Such a shame the Russian's destroyed that whole city with no regards to anything. I'm glad he is alright and hope he can rebuild his dream.
gay pоr favоr
I would like to help you rebuild your Mariupol museum ! I have a few old macs and parts to give. Do you have a contact ? Thanks.
I hope Club 8-Bit is ok.
It is not, entire thing got blown up by artillery. Silver lining is the dude survived, he wrote about the destruction of the museum on his blog.
@@libertinarey Nooooooo! For real? :(
@@libertinarey Fucking hell, I'm glad he's alive at least. I hate the Azovite filth who happily set up shop among civilians so that the civilians get fired on, and I hope Ukrainians throw out the Banderist(Stepan Bandera was a holocaust perpetrator who has been elevated to "hero" status in Ukraine since 2014) evildoers who hold their country hostage.
@@snorman1911 Yep, sadly everything was destroyed
I hope you are safe
Neat.
0:58 WOW it's a thomson MO6, I learn to code in basic on those !
it was so horrible, ahaha
I pray that the curator and his family are safe. And I hope one day he can build anew, and keep his passion alive.
I hope you and your museum are ok through all this insanity.
Music's name?
River Raid на Atari 🥰
I know how you feel. I can get lost with electronics and computers for hours and hours.
у вас есть apple 2?
Man... esto es demasiado triste... Amo este tipo de cosas y saber que fue destruido por una estupida guerra me da coraje. Me recuerda a todas las veces que en guerrar destruyeron o saquearon arte...
Wow, wish I knew more about Russia. Russia and Iran and Iraq are 3 of the most mysterious places we never learn about in U.S. So much culture!❤️✌️
And corpses. (66M at last count.) Read 'Gulag Archipelago' and see why.
Well, interesting tidbit about Iran here: There is a very popular ski restort in Tehran. Iranians love to ski in their snowy mountains. Yes, there are mountains in Iran, with snow and people go there to ski. Most people think of Iran as a country made up entirely of a desert because it is in the middle east, but it is not just a desert.
@Santi Chasca 100% die under capitalism, the difference being that they don't die in arctic concentration camps, or by bullet in the head in the basement of the Lubyanka.
@@chepushila1 Well, death under capitalism is different than death by the state. It's harder to paint a death under capitalism as one directly caused by the system, because that's not necessarily how the system works. You have to factor individual choices made by a person, options available/deprived that lead to a death, or decisions made by the state in a mostly capitalistic system. When a death is inherently caused by the state, it's crystal clear. Not everybody that disagrees with you is "brainwashed" either-- people seem to toss that word around like candy whenever someone has an opinion that's relatively popular.
@@chepushila1 The consensus is 5-7 million for deaths directly caused by Stalin, excluding the war-- not sure where you only got 1-2 million.
RIP
Очень понимаю мужика . Так как сам коллекционирую компьютеры
Bom dia belíssima máquinas
stuck in the 80
0:14 benzaie!
0:27 little did he know...
Господи сил Вам ! Это такой мрак
But the west has told ...in Soviet union there are no computers, electronic things😃😃😃😃 but soviet union is like other westren nations......
I mean soviet leaders did see computers as “western evil” and most of the computers in the eastern bloc were smuggled in
@@Kubulek17
I think a lot of western leaders did too its just they couldnt legally ban them because of checks and balances
I dont think Reagan really liked the internet for example but he only saw that after he was retired
@Nigel Cam In some ways it wasn't their "strong point", such as the research and manufacturing on the state level. But as far as the people go, Russians are on average more technologically advanced than their Western counterparts. Like fixing your stereo or TV of your household was a normal thing in the USSR for most men even if their professions were entirely different. Same as owning soldering iron and tester alongside stock of spare resistors etc. A lot of computers were home-designed and built and there was impressive hobbyist software development scene. That still translates over today.
@Nigel Cam не путайте СССР с Китаем, всё у нас было, но из-за череды предательств многие аутентичные проекты были закрыты и все системы переведены на ibm. Интеллектуальный прогресс в СССР был по одной из версий в тройке лучших, но по моей - лучший в мире(не потому что я патриот СССР,а из-за того,что все строится не на прибыли ,а идеи + сама система образования была для всех, можно было абсолютно бесплатно учиться высшей математике и прочему). Люди были погружены в науку и прогресс на все 100%.Ответ может не очень по теме,но все же спасибо за внимание и с уважением.
@@bellotacositacandy You have to take into account that the US had a few centuries head start over the USSR, and that the USSR was a way poorer country devastated by WWII. But in spite of that, they managed to rival and outcompete the US in so many areas...
When the USSR was established, it was basically a 3rd world country.
is your collection safe?
destroyred at the start of war.
Це буде перше місце, куди я піду, якщо попаду в Маріуполь.
Дуже класний музей)
Such a wonderful museum. Sad that it has been destroyed in the Russian invasion.
The Ukranians could have evacuated the city and declared it "open" too. Its a tragedy that there was a war, but there was a war at Mariupol for 6 years already. Ordinary people always suffer in them. Donetsk was shelled for 6 years.
@@ActionableFreedom While it is horrific that from 2014 to 2022 around 14,000 people have been killed in the conflict in the Donbas-region (1), the Russian narrative that these were people killed by the Ukrainian government is pure perversion of reality:
According to the United Nations, this number of 14,000 causalities includes 3,095 civilians resp. 3,393 if the victims of flight MH17 are included (2). (So civilian causalities make up about 24% of total causalities.)
The remaining causalities are among the armed forces:
\- Ukrainian Armed Forces: 4,150 (1)
\- Separatist Forces: 5,700 (1)
So it follows that around 42% of the non-civilian causalities accrued on the side of the Ukrainian government with the remaining 58% on the side of the separatist forces.
Now, regarding the civilian causalities:
The vast majority of causalities appeared in the years 2014 and 2015 (around 90% of all conflict-related civilian deaths were in these two years (2)) where civilians came into crossfire of the Ukrainian Army and the separatists, while heavy fighting took place. Accordingly, it is almost impossible to distinguish which side is responsible for which exact amount of civilian deaths. But it is also clear that both sides have caused these, and not solely the Ukrainian government.
Sidenote: In 2021 18 civilian were killed in the Donbas region - that is, more than 100 times less than 2014.
So, if anybody uses this number of 14,000 deaths, he/she should only use it as an argument for an urgent call for quick and real peace in the Donbass and not as an excuse for an invasion, since obviously, this number incorporates military losses of both sides and uninvolved and peaceful civilians (on both sides).
(Note: The numbers are not totally consistent, since source (1) is from February 2021 while source (2) is from October 2021.)
(1) www.radiosvoboda.org/a/news-oon-kst-gertv-boyovyh-donbas/31110937.html
(2) ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2021-10/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2030%20September%202021%20%28rev%208%20Oct%202021%29%20EN.pdf
@@harvyt257 I mean I appreciate all the reasonably well researched information. But it is clear who held cities in the beginning and who was besieging them.
But unlike you, and the Russians, I dont blame the Ukranians for doing it. If I blame the Ukranians for anything its their half-hearted revolution that just resulted in a new bunch of corrupt oligarchs replacing the old ones while passing a bunch of anti-Russian laws that angered the Russian population and gave a pretext for interventon.
Once shit got started, and these new powers clearly never could accept a peaceful separation like that in Czech and Slovak situation (or their powerbase that fed on nationalist propaganda would collapse) then shelling cities and the deaths of civilians became a necessity of war.
Anyone who lives under some illusion that wars of even somewhat equal opponents can be fought without it lives in the world of dreams. Its like some sort of propaganda both from Ukraine and Russia catering to a lobotomized population both in the West and in the East, who are so far removed from reality that they dont know what war is anymore. And so the fight is over "who is the war criminal(tm)" instead of whose political and strategic goals you sympathize with the most/are most justified.
The destruction of Raqqa and Mosul in the liberation of the cities from Isis was near total. In those cases the armies of the SDF and Iraqi forces respectively were SHELLING THEIR OWN PEOPLE, yet both their own people and the world, including westerners and russians supported these campaigns. Its just a question of narrative for the liberal middle class person, sadly.
My actual point is. The Ukranians had the right to fight for their land, even if much of it didn´t want to be part of Ukraine anymore. They had the right to shell cities to try and take them back and the Russians in protecting their "Russian" people have the moral right to fight back, shell Ukranian cities and so on.
Both sides could do the "humaniitarian" thing and declare their cities open. But as this is a war of attrition and as many politicians careers and maybe lives depend on this war that is not going to happen.
@@ActionableFreedom Yes Boris there is always peace if people do not fight back against aggression. Think how peaceful things would have been if the USSR chose to declare itself an open nation in the name of peace after 1941.
If it wasn’t destroyed they’d smash it up for fun or loot it. But they’re likely too stupid to realize it had any value.
Мариуполь... Теперь ничего этого уже нет.
Just discovered this project from the news that it has been destroyed. How crazy is that.
Glad the founder Dmitry said it will continue in the future. That's the spirit my friend. 🇺🇦
That’s so cool! We were always told that the USSR was behind (western propaganda) but these are cool clones. Such a great collection I’d love to spend a day and play :) Spasibo for this great video.
it got destroyed 💀
When the brits make computer for USSR but they don’t like USSR
The Russian had destroy it!
and we prоud. Yоu are next
sad new
ну прекрасно, обрезали половину фраз, и перевели говняно....
So i can use this to lunch a nuke
look photo destroy old games
first
what do you want? a medal?
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show photos after fire ... i think you lie about fire ... all computers left from this place before fire up