sorry it makes zero financial sense if you actually do the math. There is a reason this company is offering this paid service instead of just buying up packs themselves. They are trying to rake in money from people who believe this nonsense which has been available for the last 50 years.
@@c-w-h hopefully so, we are in the adapt phase so any change to block it will be welcomed. products from the last 25 years have no defense, but provided everybody has access to this instead of just a few people, again the space has the ability to adapt and defend itself
But from trusted game stores and not eBay, buying TCG products offline is silly, and if you don't have a store near you then order directly from a store.
Well, most importantly, a CT scan in the medical industry is reviewed by a highly paid medical professional who has to incur in higher costs in order to perform them (education, liability insurance, state of the art equipment, man hours, etc.). This, on the other hand, can be performed by essentially anyone who knows basic radiology safety and is able to operate potentially older imaging equipment.
Because one measures a card pack and one measures the human body and one of them answers the question "is there a holo" and the other answers the question "is there an illness" so naturally one costs a lot more than the other.
Can you imagine sending them your booster pack in good faith and it has a $100,000 card and they swap the pack with a junk holo pack and keep the booster and just say it had the junk pack. This opens up to a whole new market of scamming.
One would think that their reputation is more valuable than whatever they could get from a pack like that and that they would make more money in the long term by keeping the reputation clean because if they got caught that would be the end of them and people can do a lot of different things too stealthily mark their products
So heavy vintage packs should begin to see a spike as people look to pick them up before they're scanned, before dropping drastically as everyone will suspect them to be scanned.
@@raccoonandfox2778 What you're forgetting is that this is only new for the general public because it's getting so much attention on social media. This has been going on for a minute! Just bringing attention to something doesn't mean it hasn't been going on for years, an only the people in the know have been turning huge profits!
Totally agree! Graded and raw cards will be the only thing safe. Either hold on to you sealed (which will be worthless because ppl will be paranoid not knowing if you scanned it and are now selling them a dud with no hits), or open it as a last resort effort in hopes of pulling a valuable card. I'm sure only 8% of ANYTHING sealed is only worth opening in the 1st place and has hits (regarding any set vintage or modern)......The average person will panic and open their sealed and VERY FEW will pull hits.....while the rest is dump.....thus leaving WAYYYYYY less sealed on the market or available. The market will then adjust for the RAW and GRADED. Mark my words, if you have sealed, sell it now or open it. Stop lying to yourself........your $500,000 in sealed vintage IS NOT SAFE 😅!
@@devonkelly9395 not everyone collects sealed product to open it or for the possible hits, is the nostalgia of having the product you use to open before. Basically the same as having the cards. Sealed product will always be a different type of collectible
@@alexitocr1989 but the possibility is a huge factor otherwise light weighted packs would cost the same as heavy ones. The people who held on to sealed products will experience huge value loss.
The video is heavily edited. There’s a reason they’re not showing a fully unedited video. Think about it, if ct work so well already why would doctors inject radioactive dyes in your blood to see better? This is just to drum up investor $
This will pretty much only affect vintage packs, when an individual pack may cost $1000+. Modern sets will be fine because the value proposition just isn't there. It costs $700+ just to scan a mere 10 packs... What then? "Oh there were no hits in those boosters, gonna sell them" and only get like $4-5 per pack in return? I'm gonna guess that to scan a whole box it's gonna be around $1500. "Oh there's no hits in there, lets put it up for sale" but the return on a booster box is only like $100 - $200. Nobody is going to invest that much into a Twilight Masquerade box. Therefore I highly doubt people who buy sealed products will be affected, as long as it is a modern set.
Let’s think about this for a sec. What packs would it make financial sense to pay 75 bucks to know what’s inside? I can only think of one and It’s likely not what you are buying.
This is insane. Say somebody sends in a first edition base set box to scan. The conpsny finds a charizard in the box. What do you they are going to do? Send back the box and results of a different box they confirmed with no charizard. Then they open your box and send off what should have been your zard to grade laughing all the way to bank. All while you have no way of knowing. Same could be said for packs too. Say somebody sends in 5 evolving skies packs and there just so happens to be a moonbreon in one of them. I promise you you wont be getting that moonbreon pack back. The ripoff potential here is astronomical
For pp dealing with machinery worth millions they don’t care about. Even the highest price charizardbis equal to ~3500 scanned packages and you can be sure if this kicks in they will get that amount every month.
The risk involved would be pretty great, when instead you could just milk 75$ out of tbousands of people a year As an example, 1000 customers is $75k, over 5 years if kept steady that's $375k. Over a quarter million at no risk for next to no labour. Sure they could attempt to supplement this through theft and fraud but if that was ever discovered they will be facing multi million dollar lawsuits and criminal penalty that would immediately eliminate their earnings. And all it would take to reveal fraud is a competitor/collector-contracted scanning company sending a box that they already scanned themselves
How much do you want to bet they’ll scan a sealed product, find a big hit, then send images of a dud box they have on hand to send back to the customer?
I was very close to investing in sealed boxes a few years ago, and now I'm glad I didn't. TCG companies will add an xray reactive paper under the box wrapper that turns black when CT scanned or something similar, and those who invested in sealed boxes before that will have a hard time reselling them. That's inevitable. I personally won't buy any sealed box unless it has visible x-ray proof protection from now on. Hobby boxes are already expensive, and I don't want to take any chances.
This will pretty much only affect vintage packs, when an individual pack may cost $1000+. Modern sets will be fine because the value proposition just isn't there. It costs $700+ just to scan a mere 10 packs... What then? "Oh there were no hits in those boosters, gonna sell them." And only get like $4-5 per pack in return? I'm gonna guess that to scan a whole box it's gonna be around $1500. "Oh there were no hits in here, let's put it up for sale" but the return on a booster box is only around $100 - $200. Nobody is going to invest that much into a Twilight Masquerade box. Therefore investors in sealed products (non-vintage) will not be affected. At least I highly doubt it.
actually it wouldn't be so difficult! CT uses X-rays, and X-rays were discovered because of a foto film darkening under the exposure. So a cheap stripe of film inside a pack would do the trick.
This is not good for the hobby, it's absolutely crazy to see you defending this and even being excited about it. Sealed vintage is dead, and I truly fear for the future of the Pokémon hobby now, and any other big TCGs like One Piece, Magic and Lorcana. People WILL abuse this technology, no doubt about it!
it already happened, there's nothing to defend - if not these, then it would be another group/company/person down the line. all TCGs will need to adapt to survive, being sad about it won't change anything. i'm naturally curious about tech applications like this, can't help it. i will be just as intrigued when a counter is introduced to products to prevent scanning
@@okJLUV you are promoting this though? It's people like you that push out the news, so you should have a responsibility in not pushing out tragic things like this.
@@SuperScottyboy88 even if some news is considered bad or disruptive that doesn’t make the reporter the one responsible. i tried to keep this vid as balanced and free of my personal opinion so people who watch it can come to their own conclusion, instead of firing people up and leading them one way or another let’s say i reported this and spent 5 min talking about how bad it is. there’s a world where i have people saying im only saying it’s bad because i own sealed boxes and im scared. i didn’t want to poison the well. hope you can understand
Easily detectable once Companies add an analog film card or something reactive to newer backs that change color or show an indication that something has been hit with x-rays. Then at least when you open the pack you know it was scanned and you can react accordingly.
instead of sending this info on to card companies you make a video. i call that promoting as the meaning of promoting is "further the progress of". which you cannot deny you have done.
@@ryanno1791I think he means he isn't being paid to promote, this is not a "promotional" video FOR the scanning company it is an informational video about this concept and company
Lol! Loser. Only cry baby collectors are crying about them. "whaaaa! I can't make money anymore because someone is already taking all the profits whaaaa"!!! Serves people right. There are meant to be opened and played. The only losers here are the people hoarding and selling these for a living.
Obviously the TCG makers are going to review the x-ray tech and then develop a material that will block or interfere with the scans, making it unreliable. And then it's going to be a cat and mouse game of the x-ray tech getting better, and the TCG companies having to invent new blocking material. It's just going to be a mess.
@@de1855 if you deal with xray machines and ct scanners - you'll know it's going to be impossible to 'block' the scan Especially a ct scan - that's machine is built to look inside things down to tiny detail
@@de1855 who going to scan 3$ modern packs at 70$ though. I mean ya tcg companies have to do it but this is a vintage issue for now, unless these companies can start mass scan for cheap. But these machines require tons of maintenance, at this point in time they’d have to charge a lot to stay in business .
Can you trust the service though? you send a booster box, it has a valuable cards and they send you back an equivalent with low cost already scanned card. Next scenario, pokemon change the packaging of both booster and box by adding either a layer or particle that disrupt the scan. Third, man there are people dying they cannot afford a CT scan to detect human disease..and some people take the time to spend on fraudulent activities, that's how low the hobby has gone.
@@nexttcgshop I always had that fear. Even PSA could trick us and receive a Charizard in perfect condition and exchange our card for a similar one that receives, for example, an 8.
You know, for the price it would cost to scan an evolving skies booster box (im guessing a box will run you around $1500, seeing as for 11+ packs it's $65 EACH), you could just straight up buy a moonbreon. If they wanted a moonbreon, they will take the money you gave them to scan the packs and buy it. And then return your dud box LOL.
@luckerooni1153: "one measures a card pack and one measures the human body and one of them answers the question "is there a holo" and the other answers the question "is there an illness" so naturally one costs a lot more than the other."
I like vintage sealed product for the sole fact its never been opened. Its like old action figures or magazines - you know whats inside, but its the fact its still sealed that is the "woah" factor. So I'd be happy to buy vintage sealed even if its been CT scanned, as long as its discounted for knowing it has no hit.
@@flookarazthere’s still going to be a collector market for sealed. But prices on just about everything might see a dip. I can see this increasing population reports for a lot of vintage. And I’m even hearing things about ppl offering this for half the cost. I can see this easily going down to like $10 a pack maybe even 5 honestly. And at that point nothing is really safe.
Wow! I collect hockey card unopened boxes. The fact that 2023-24 Upper deck series 1,2 and extended have introduced limited Outburst foil cards into a product that never had foil is saddening. Easily detectable.
For those who want to find a way to block a CT scan. A CT scan uses x-rays to detect deformities. To sufficiently block X-rays from a CT scan, three feet of lead thickness may be needed. The only way to control a problem such as one in this video, is to set a law to ban such use of a CT scan.
1. Spending that much money to make a lead box around a booster box is diabolical 💀 2. You can choose not to, and I doubt anyone’s gonna pass a law that says you can’t x ray scan your trading cards you paid for
I feel like the service should include a sticker which states the item has been scanned. If the sticker is on an etb or booster box you won’t be able to remove it without removing the seal at the same time. If your scanning it for yourself it doesn’t matter but if you’re scanning to sell, it means the buyer is aware it’s been scanned, at the same time that doesn’t have to reduce the value if the sticker is designed well and it’s viewed upon like a graded slab
I've been saying sealed could be scanned by x-rays for years... is this not common knowledge? Why is everyone suddenly panicking? EDIT: I'm aware this is the first COMMERCIAL service. Doesn't mean it's not been happening for years behind the curtain.
Or everyone with a large access to "sealed packs" will scan them at cost to themselves hoping to turn a profit. So they would immediately open any valuable cards they found and sell them on Ebay/TCG/Whatnot/Tiktok/ect. The value of the sealed packs will go down as people won't trust them as will the contents on the inside when random 9s and 10s start popping up for valuable cards.
@@TolisWorld I'd imagine it would mean a short term spike in price for higher value packs as people that collect pretend its not real and people that are finding success start buying them up. Then as the prices of the cards inside go down, the price of packs will follow like a trend line.
@PrintHammer Agreed, but even if everyone opened their vintage sealed pokemon or any pokemon sealed from any ear right now, not a lot of people will pull hits worth anything. With all the sealed pokemon in the world vintage or modern, only about 8% will have hits worth anything....the rest will be bulk. A lot of ppl will open packs due to fear and a small amount of raw cards worth value will enter the raw market.......sealed is dead, keep your graded and raw, not only will they be safe, they will SKYROCKET in value as sealed will totally collapse!
I've been saying this. The people with "sealed" vintage, mid-era, and modern are lying to themselves (especially the ones who invested a huge amount). The sealed market is dead, just only a matter of time.
Think this will also affect raw/grading prices for high value vintage cards. People will scan their vintage packs/boxes and open the ones with the big hitters now which will put more of them in the market since sealed will crash theres no reason not to open ones with the hits.
Raw and graded is safe! With sealed being dead, not worth buying or collecting, ppl will turn their collecting habbits, be it buying, trading ect, to raw and graded! All the money that was in sealed will transition to raw and graded. This will skyrocket raw and graded especially vintage as everyone will want it. Even if every sealed pokemon anything was opened right now.......how much of it will have hits? I'm guessing 9%! Yes, more raw cards on market but not all will be hits.......and even with more raw cards on market, raw and graded will still skyrocket because all the attention and money that was on sealed will transition to raw and graded!
The X-ray scanning trick is the best thing to get these displays stolen. The company is going to replace your potencial super display with one that has already been scanned and is much less interesting, and what's more, you'll pay for it. The new practice of scammers. The best way to know what is inside your booster it's to open it !
edit* you should change the title of ''card collecting just changed forever'' not limiting the content of the video to just pokemon since this video could be spread into many card communities end up going even more viral. lol crazy... people can get their rare packs scanned and sell them off if it has nothing. Could imagine a lot of things dropping in price like why buy a pack or box for hundreds of $$$ when you can have it scanned for a base price to see if its a hit or miss anyways which completely devalues the whole resell market. Only limited rare old releases will end up holding value for pristine packs/cards
Until the market equilibrates to this new paradigm, I could see a number of different ways this could impact sealed and raw/graded pricing. Costs aside, this means that the timetable for "mining" vintage hits gets moved up substantially because some of the gambling behind opening gets removed. If those hits hit the raw/graded market too quickly that could actually depress prices due to increased supply. However, there's also the question of what happens to the value of the pack post-scanning because the lack of knowledge of the identity of the hit in a heavy pack is what is currently priced in to the current market price. So if you scan it and it's a "dud" pack, you now have your sunk cost acquiring the pack at a price assuming a certain probability it isn't a dud and the cost to search it that you have to recoup. Hot potato-ing it back onto a market that would become increasingly skeptical would make that trickier since there's no way on the secondary market to prove a pack hasn't been scanned unless Industrial slaps a label on the pack after it is scanned that can't be removed without removing material from the pack. So assuming all this eventually buyer trust would tank making vintage packs harder to move without lowering the price. How these factors play out together to impact the prices is impossible to say, but it will definitely be an interesting case study in market dynamics.
you are so full of it. if people analyse this vid carefully they see it is promoting. small things like when you say the words "positive" and "negative" when mentioning the service. Positive was said in a happy tone while negative was said much like the word. Now i know you will say no, its aint like that but it happens throughout the whole video. If you were reporting about the company as you say why list a link to the website? why tell people, best way to use would be a walk in service, you know cause they themselves could rip you off by giving a dud box, as mentioned by you and your followers in a live stream. You have young kids following you, do the right thing in this situation.
At least it's an easy/cheap fix for future sets. Just put a layer of aluminum foil within the cardboard and it's impossible to scan. Not sure if TCG manufacturers will be too quick to make this change though. NVM did a Google and apparently CT can scan through metal so I guess we're f'd
I'd imagine the cheapest fix for this would be tin/aluminium foil layer as it should cause a big enough amount of scatter effect and be very light and cheap. But I can also see the Pokémon Company not giving a shit since they just sell Pokémon cards no matter what happens and the vintage market can probably suck it in their eyes.
@@MaelthasDivine anything before TWM will be 100% scannable. Maybe even the next 1-2 sets. Given the science behind xrays and lead sheet thickness…well, I’m unsure what the TCG companies will do because that’s a lot of lead. We could see a pretty steep price increase tbh.
As bad as this is, this could be used to help find out whether a japanese booster box is resealed or not. To see if there are guaranteed hits or not. But I hate the idea of scanning a box of cards to see the hits.
This is fine as long as the price for booster packs and boxes comes down. The boxes/packs prices are only based off the chances of a rare wanted card. So this will just basically kill the box/pack value. Which in my opinion is a good idea overall as we want those cards to be slightly more obtainable. Or the other option is, make this illegal lol. Which ain't going to happen. Other thing is also that sealed scanned packs will just be another more valuable item in some ways. Buying a vintage pack with a scanned holo would be a cool sales point to some collectors. "I know this has a zard because of this certificate" etc. Depends how you look at it.
Open everything and put hits on the market for 5× more. That'll make up for the dead product you couldn't sell. 🤷♂️ At first prices will drop but people will know they'll NEVER be able to get these again and prices will shoot up after a couple years.
I'm wondering for very valuable sets if it would be financially viable to use MRI which maybe able to identify non foil MTG cards. For packs worth many thousands this was probably worthwhile and going on for a while already
Pokémon company won’t do anything about it because they make tons of money off modern sets. They don’t necessarily want you to hold onto unopened product since there’s really no additional gain for them
@@mikemeyers336the secondary market is actually very important to them. It generates millions of dollars from interested people. Also, new people don't buy from them directly, but the secondary market buys more because of the extra influence they receive. They care.
@@mikemeyers336yeah everyone talking about the companies finding was to stop this don't realize that it's not the mega Corp getting hurt it's the guy that buys 100 booster boxes to resell once the print run is over
I'm kinda skeptical :( what if your box get something extremely rare and they just swap you card box for another and tell you that nothing rare was found?.
I foresee companies immediately including cards in the front and back that prevents this. They can't use lead but I'm sure something could block this method which might increase the retail price of packs.
With the new Pokémon TCG live app coming out on Halloween, I could see something like this pushing the Pokémon company to move even further toward digital cards and away from physical even more than it already is.
Impractical, Expensive and most of all costs more than the card you're hoping to pull. I could MAYBE see this being used for vintage packs but nobody in their right mind would send a pack to strangers who could simply swap packs as many are saying in the comments before me, however not everyone is in their right mind so it wouldn't surprise me to see people send some in. Realistically the only way this could permanently affect the market is if they begin producing smaller versions of it to sell so people can do it in their own homes.
ct scanned packs should have a sticket stuck on them so only way you getting it off is rip it off dmg the pack so if you want to sell people can see its been scanned and what scanned it has
I can’t see it been worthwhile except for a few very expensive vintage heavy packs. On the flip side you’ll going to then have people claiming they’ve CT scanned dud packs / boxes making out they contain a bunch of big hits using photoshopped images, giving a different pack. It would be way more cost effective to just buy the singles. A lot of the time you can open a heavy vintage pack and still lose given the cost of the pack vs the holo card which rarely grade a 10. Scanning 10+ packs to find that base set zard? Pack cost £400 for a heavy and then you’ve spent 750 or more scanning less desirable packs. You could probably just buy a PSA 9 version for the same or less with grading fees, postage, CT scanning. Resealing is much more of a concern. I doubt the Pokémon company lawyers will take too well to it either. A decent chunk of their sales will come from sealed collectors. If this does turn into something long term then I can see there being companies that will do radiation tests confirming the box hasn’t been scanned before being placed into a tamper proof sealed box. These will likely be more valuable than CT scanned boxes with so called hits in just on the basis they’re obviously being sold by unethical money people. Chances are they will claim the box or packs contain x card when it doesn’t. Another thing is take XY Evolution booster boxes, I haven’t checked prices in awhile but lets say £700. People don’t buy the boxes because they’re going to profit from a box like that on the contents, the singles are worth next to nothing. People buy to have the box in their sealed collection or if they’re doing ok for money they might rip the packs for entertainment. It would make no sense paying maybe 1000s to see what’s inside. Not to mention all the health risks by those doing these scans. Is it worth it? Who knows if there’s any slight health concerns with people then handling the boxes afterwards after being scanned many times trying to get scans of what’s inside.
So for now this service is only for packs that cost $100s of dollars. Like vintage etc. in the future price will go down I guess. Either way they should have kept this secret and in house and sold everything on eBay even the dud boxes.
In the future ones the scans get real good, it might even be possible to scan a Charizard while it's still in box. Such box value would be out of this world. Just another layer of card collecting.
The only packs worth scanning are HEAVY Vintage loose packs because lets be honest, no one is sending a sealed vintage BB to these people, its 75$ to scan a single pack, BB's are TBD because they need multiple scans to get accurate data and it takes a lot more time to look through a BB, so scanning a BB through their website will probably be ultra expensive. Based on pull rates, the amount of money you would need to give to these people to find a modern chase, ~14 BB's, like a Moonbreon or Greninja would be astronomical, you would most likely be out way more money even after you sold the dud boxes to recoup your losses than if you just opened the product yourself to get the chase card. IMO this is all just fear mongering, there is no security if you send in ultra high ticket sealed products, and there is no profitability sending in modern products.
I collect yugioh, and this has killed it for me. All the fun is gone because I'll always have that doubt and wonder if ive been scammed. Unless something changes, i won't be buying any sealed anything because i just can't trust it anymore.
The only way I could see people being okay with it is if when scanned there was some permanent marking or barcode on the pack or product that stated it’s been scanned and has the info on the website.
Do you realise me as a booster box collector would never send some random company my products and just hope they will tell me “yeah this box actually has 15x the value of the price you paid for this service” like someone mentioned already they could buy junk packs of every set and just wait till a customer sends a hit and swap it out. This is insane man.
At $65 per pack. I see this not being an economical option. Let’s face it. You’ve usually got to go through multiple packs to find decent cards. 10 packs cost you $650. So if you send in six packs you would have to be extremely lucky to recoup your money.
On the part of them possibly sending back a dud, don't the boxes have unique bar codes/barcode numbers on them? So couldn't you have that number when you send it and when you get it back, verify it's the same? I don't know much about pokémon collecting, just got into it recently after over two decades haha
@@mtv565 from an investing standpoint maybe. But think about from someone just literally collecting & don’t care about value, I love the idea of a discounted sealed box because it’s verified no chase hits in it
@@mtv565and that’s what this is anyway. The people ok with it want it all to be worthless. Probably linked to financial jealousy and envy. There’s nothing positive about any of this. The hobby requires both players and collectors simultaneously. Why don’t you just bring pictures of cards to Kinkos and print them? If you just want to hold the art, there you go.
So would an evolving skies sealed booster box that has been scanned and confirmed to have a moonbreon inside be worth more than an unscanned sealed evolving skies booster box?
Yes, CT scans use ionizing radiation, a type of energy that can cause a small increase in the risk of cancer. However, the benefits of CT scans usually outweigh the risks.
I doubt the Pokemon company will do anything to prevent this as physical card packs opening has been sun setting anyway with Pokemon moving into digital packs (ptcg pocket) and the new under developing Altered tcg. Given how fast technology is developing nowadays I won't be surprised we will soon be able to know every single card in a sealed booster case without opening it. However the value of sealed products will still be there just like a sealed iPhone 3G that you know exactly what's in there but the seal will still hole its premium.
i think every TCG will need to adapt otherwise they run the risk of people losing interest in modern product, it sitting on the shelves, causing an issue for LGS's etc. the cards need to remain physical at least for the near future for competitive TCG play. but you're right, maybe in 10-15 years, in person play moves to fully digital. now that is a scary thought!
Havent commented in a while due to loss in the tcg interest. I still collect pokemon, mtg and sorcery. Im glad you brought this up. Even bigger reason to buy singles. I still love you and your hair.
As of now based on pricing, I feel like this is really only good for larger price items. The fact that for 11+ packs its $65/pack is insane. But for now, I feel like its just more of a concept for consumers until the price drops. Also, Id be curious then if theres a way to test if these products have been CT scanned? Not sure what the science would be behind that but Id be curious to know lol
If they can partner or develop the scanning to work with AI to figure out the images this will evolve very quickly to where they can set a guarantee % of accuracy
Pack weighing already tainted the hobby, but this is just the final nail in the coffin. There's a lot of people in this hobby that have the money who will absolutely be investing in these to take advantage of this for huge profit.
Most boxes have a promo made just for that box. You want the promo you have to have that box period. Fuck scanning they will just sell the card out right for higher prices.
I don’t think sports cards have much more money than Pokemon. Sports have a few super ticket cards but the industry of Pokémon is far bigger than all sports cards combined. Also most of the high ticket sports cards are not found in sealed product unlike Pokémon.
Honestly I think this will be easiest for single packs and collection boxes with single packs, for sure now I’m never buying a loose booster pack again of vintage
So can they scan booster boxes and locate what type of holos are in it. I can understand a single pack, but a box with multiple packs? Is that possible
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and you plugging this. shame on you. the company should be shut down.
sorry it makes zero financial sense if you actually do the math. There is a reason this company is offering this paid service instead of just buying up packs themselves. They are trying to rake in money from people who believe this nonsense which has been available for the last 50 years.
@@silverwolf6866well they commercialized it
@@okJLUV It will be rendered useless. Lead lined booster boxes will eliminate this.
@@c-w-h hopefully so, we are in the adapt phase so any change to block it will be welcomed. products from the last 25 years have no defense, but provided everybody has access to this instead of just a few people, again the space has the ability to adapt and defend itself
Can't wait for the negative feedback on eBay "he must have CT scanned this twilight masquerade box, no greninja"
“Welcome to the hobby”😂
@@KetchumAllCollectibles dont say this as i have multiple boxes listed and bidded on. 100% still 🥲
You can only blame the people who found this CT shit out. Don’t blame the consumer
Don't edit your comment, this might be reality soon
But from trusted game stores and not eBay, buying TCG products offline is silly, and if you don't have a store near you then order directly from a store.
If it only costs $75 for a CT scan of trading cards, why can’t we do this for people who need it for medical care? 1:04
yeah a few people have mentioned that to me. being in AU our CT scan costs aren't anywhere near as high. crazy world we live in now
Because you didnt compare this devices scale, vs the ones in hospital.
Well, most importantly, a CT scan in the medical industry is reviewed by a highly paid medical professional who has to incur in higher costs in order to perform them (education, liability insurance, state of the art equipment, man hours, etc.). This, on the other hand, can be performed by essentially anyone who knows basic radiology safety and is able to operate potentially older imaging equipment.
Because one measures a card pack and one measures the human body and one of them answers the question "is there a holo" and the other answers the question "is there an illness" so naturally one costs a lot more than the other.
yea good luck fitting a human in that size of one but even then theyre over priced and its mainly because they know they can get a ton from insurance.
Can you imagine sending them your booster pack in good faith and it has a $100,000 card and they swap the pack with a junk holo pack and keep the booster and just say it had the junk pack.
This opens up to a whole new market of scamming.
@@Lostpoptart you could put a mark on your box before sending it
@@jgon23I like the way you think. you could but what if they are able to replicate that mark too??? 😢
One would think that their reputation is more valuable than whatever they could get from a pack like that and that they would make more money in the long term by keeping the reputation clean because if they got caught that would be the end of them and people can do a lot of different things too stealthily mark their products
@@Reedith I totally agree with you. Reputation proceeds everything.
This also suggests they would still be doing the tedious work of scanning each pack which they're intentionally off-loading to the client
So heavy vintage packs should begin to see a spike as people look to pick them up before they're scanned, before dropping drastically as everyone will suspect them to be scanned.
@@raccoonandfox2778 What you're forgetting is that this is only new for the general public because it's getting so much attention on social media. This has been going on for a minute! Just bringing attention to something doesn't mean it hasn't been going on for years, an only the people in the know have been turning huge profits!
Totally agree! Graded and raw cards will be the only thing safe. Either hold on to you sealed (which will be worthless because ppl will be paranoid not knowing if you scanned it and are now selling them a dud with no hits), or open it as a last resort effort in hopes of pulling a valuable card. I'm sure only 8% of ANYTHING sealed is only worth opening in the 1st place and has hits (regarding any set vintage or modern)......The average person will panic and open their sealed and VERY FEW will pull hits.....while the rest is dump.....thus leaving WAYYYYYY less sealed on the market or available. The market will then adjust for the RAW and GRADED. Mark my words, if you have sealed, sell it now or open it. Stop lying to yourself........your $500,000 in sealed vintage IS NOT SAFE 😅!
@@devonkelly9395 not everyone collects sealed product to open it or for the possible hits, is the nostalgia of having the product you use to open before. Basically the same as having the cards. Sealed product will always be a different type of collectible
@@alexitocr1989 but the possibility is a huge factor otherwise light weighted packs would cost the same as heavy ones. The people who held on to sealed products will experience huge value loss.
The video is heavily edited. There’s a reason they’re not showing a fully unedited video. Think about it, if ct work so well already why would doctors inject radioactive dyes in your blood to see better? This is just to drum up investor $
This will make cards worth way less, specially sealed product.
But to be honest, when the speculative bubble bursts, the real collectors win
Hopefully. Im definitely going to buy sealed from the official pokemon stores for the next few months
Its funny how people just looking to resell call themselves collectors.
@@CokesAndTokesopen pack keep what you want sell what you don’t want buy more for your collection
This will pretty much only affect vintage packs, when an individual pack may cost $1000+. Modern sets will be fine because the value proposition just isn't there.
It costs $700+ just to scan a mere 10 packs... What then? "Oh there were no hits in those boosters, gonna sell them" and only get like $4-5 per pack in return? I'm gonna guess that to scan a whole box it's gonna be around $1500. "Oh there's no hits in there, lets put it up for sale" but the return on a booster box is only like $100 - $200. Nobody is going to invest that much into a Twilight Masquerade box. Therefore I highly doubt people who buy sealed products will be affected, as long as it is a modern set.
@@prodigal99 thank you👍
The last half a decade has been a rollercoaster for us Pokemon card collectors. All we can do is strap in and find a way to try and enjoy this ride.
Well I'm never buying a box from another person ever again unless it's from their official store!
Agreed!
i wold never trust them eather so im just gonna buy singles from now on
@@graveyardshifttcg1278 It will probably get to the stage where they will start to scan the singles too unfortunately...
Let’s think about this for a sec. What packs would it make financial sense to pay 75 bucks to know what’s inside? I can only think of one and It’s likely not what you are buying.
@@Moe1993x it seems like it can do entire boxes for 75
People can’t just leave a good thing as a good thing 💀
And why is JLUV promoting it?
@@ant_989 $$$$$
@@ant_989 $$$$$
@@ant_989 not promoting, just wanted to share such important news
@@KyleLeeman when money involved that’ll never happen🥲
So basically buy retail only. They just shot themselves in the foot if they selling none singles online.
But could you be sure it wasn’t scanned before they bought it if it’s vintage stuff and not directly from the factory?
It's not going to matter unless you are in the market for a vintage product.
This business model would do best at conventions.
I think you cant sift thru the data it provides in ... minutes ... i think its hours.
this is a sad day, hope Pokémon and other TCGs see this asap and deal with it for the future
Ah yes, lead line every box and pack
Its not worth doingthis for the current tcg
@@tenglei2 it’s not worth doing anything in a multi million dollar business?
@@joshuabuhagiar2623 not really this hurts resellers not really the multimillion dollar company
This is insane. Say somebody sends in a first edition base set box to scan. The conpsny finds a charizard in the box. What do you they are going to do? Send back the box and results of a different box they confirmed with no charizard. Then they open your box and send off what should have been your zard to grade laughing all the way to bank. All while you have no way of knowing. Same could be said for packs too. Say somebody sends in 5 evolving skies packs and there just so happens to be a moonbreon in one of them. I promise you you wont be getting that moonbreon pack back. The ripoff potential here is astronomical
For pp dealing with machinery worth millions they don’t care about. Even the highest price charizardbis equal to ~3500 scanned packages and you can be sure if this kicks in they will get that amount every month.
@@RedAppleApethe guy who did it, did it with a $15k machine.... not millions of dollars in machinery at all
Open your box on video. Scan on video no edits.
The risk involved would be pretty great, when instead you could just milk 75$ out of tbousands of people a year
As an example, 1000 customers is $75k, over 5 years if kept steady that's $375k. Over a quarter million at no risk for next to no labour. Sure they could attempt to supplement this through theft and fraud but if that was ever discovered they will be facing multi million dollar lawsuits and criminal penalty that would immediately eliminate their earnings. And all it would take to reveal fraud is a competitor/collector-contracted scanning company sending a box that they already scanned themselves
So? You could say the same when you have your cards graded. Just open the box then. You want to know what's inside but not open it? Why? For money.
How much do you want to bet they’ll scan a sealed product, find a big hit, then send images of a dud box they have on hand to send back to the customer?
Ope you just said that 😂 12:43
Absolutely no oversight at that point lol great point 😮
@@madslikescardboard 100% they could who's stopping them? There's no oversight.
same thoughts, thus never ever sending anything in. I open up everything immediately anyway xD
thats like saying the same with grading company's, they see a black label 10 and give you a used 9
I was very close to investing in sealed boxes a few years ago, and now I'm glad I didn't.
TCG companies will add an xray reactive paper under the box wrapper that turns black when CT scanned or something similar, and those who invested in sealed boxes before that will have a hard time reselling them.
That's inevitable.
I personally won't buy any sealed box unless it has visible x-ray proof protection from now on.
Hobby boxes are already expensive, and I don't want to take any chances.
I would hope so, but I've seen people weighing some modern Pokemon reliably and that's been an issue for what 20 years? SMH
That would suck though if you were traveling with sealed and had it scanned at the airport.
@@happycamperproductsdidn’t even think about that. There really is no way to counter act this
Why add such a filter instead of just adding something that blocks CT?
This will pretty much only affect vintage packs, when an individual pack may cost $1000+. Modern sets will be fine because the value proposition just isn't there. It costs $700+ just to scan a mere 10 packs... What then? "Oh there were no hits in those boosters, gonna sell them." And only get like $4-5 per pack in return? I'm gonna guess that to scan a whole box it's gonna be around $1500. "Oh there were no hits in here, let's put it up for sale" but the return on a booster box is only around $100 - $200. Nobody is going to invest that much into a Twilight Masquerade box. Therefore investors in sealed products (non-vintage) will not be affected. At least I highly doubt it.
Scanned should equal open. If its scanned, it should need to be damaged or marked in some way to make it known forever.
actually it wouldn't be so difficult! CT uses X-rays, and X-rays were discovered because of a foto film darkening under the exposure. So a cheap stripe of film inside a pack would do the trick.
@kars28123 the problem is that it only solves it for future cards, not decades of expensive collector items that are already out there.
This is depressing. I hate people. Dogs would never ruin life like this.
@@saturninebear i got bitten by a rabbid dog 😭
@@saturninebear most people messing with cards don’t even like Pokemon. They are basically just scalpers. I despise them
wait until dog evolve though a genetic mutation, there will teach humans how to behave...oops that was an ape.
@@saturninebear facts
@@saturninebear yeah the people who started Ct scanning packs are bums
This is not good for the hobby, it's absolutely crazy to see you defending this and even being excited about it.
Sealed vintage is dead, and I truly fear for the future of the Pokémon hobby now, and any other big TCGs like One Piece, Magic and Lorcana. People WILL abuse this technology, no doubt about it!
it already happened, there's nothing to defend - if not these, then it would be another group/company/person down the line. all TCGs will need to adapt to survive, being sad about it won't change anything. i'm naturally curious about tech applications like this, can't help it. i will be just as intrigued when a counter is introduced to products to prevent scanning
@@okJLUV you are promoting this though? It's people like you that push out the news, so you should have a responsibility in not pushing out tragic things like this.
@@SuperScottyboy88 even if some news is considered bad or disruptive that doesn’t make the reporter the one responsible. i tried to keep this vid as balanced and free of my personal opinion so people who watch it can come to their own conclusion, instead of firing people up and leading them one way or another
let’s say i reported this and spent 5 min talking about how bad it is. there’s a world where i have people saying im only saying it’s bad because i own sealed boxes and im scared. i didn’t want to poison the well. hope you can understand
@@okJLUV honestly good point you would've received blowback either way
Literally linked them in the description lmao
Easily detectable once Companies add an analog film card or something reactive to newer backs that change color or show an indication that something has been hit with x-rays. Then at least when you open the pack you know it was scanned and you can react accordingly.
Why would that matter? You got scammed. Not like there are returns on cards once they’ve been opened.
@@chexcollects because if certain retailers/sellers do it, they will lose credit and people won't buy from them anymore
@@chexcollectsbecause then you could open a case with eBay or spread the word in the community idk
instead of sending this info on to card companies you make a video. i call that promoting as the meaning of promoting is "further the progress of". which you cannot deny you have done.
And linked them as the first thing in the description lmao "Im not promoting them thoughhhh"
@@ryanno1791 and gave company advice on how to improve their service. to all people out seeing this, it means dont trust this youtuber.
@@ryanno1791I think he means he isn't being paid to promote, this is not a "promotional" video FOR the scanning company it is an informational video about this concept and company
It’s just so trashy. This is money bro energy to the max.
Lol! Loser. Only cry baby collectors are crying about them. "whaaaa! I can't make money anymore because someone is already taking all the profits whaaaa"!!! Serves people right. There are meant to be opened and played. The only losers here are the people hoarding and selling these for a living.
Obviously the TCG makers are going to review the x-ray tech and then develop a material that will block or interfere with the scans, making it unreliable. And then it's going to be a cat and mouse game of the x-ray tech getting better, and the TCG companies having to invent new blocking material. It's just going to be a mess.
@@de1855 if you deal with xray machines and ct scanners - you'll know it's going to be impossible to 'block' the scan
Especially a ct scan - that's machine is built to look inside things down to tiny detail
@@de1855 who going to scan 3$ modern packs at 70$ though. I mean ya tcg companies have to do it but this is a vintage issue for now, unless these companies can start mass scan for cheap. But these machines require tons of maintenance, at this point in time they’d have to charge a lot to stay in business .
@@jason113388this isn’t for modern. It’s not viable for modern. It’s definitely viable and WILL not if, WILL be used for vintage
Unless they can go back to the past, there's nothing the tcg companies can do
Can you trust the service though? you send a booster box, it has a valuable cards and they send you back an equivalent with low cost already scanned card. Next scenario, pokemon change the packaging of both booster and box by adding either a layer or particle that disrupt the scan. Third, man there are people dying they cannot afford a CT scan to detect human disease..and some people take the time to spend on fraudulent activities, that's how low the hobby has gone.
@@nexttcgshop I always had that fear. Even PSA could trick us and receive a Charizard in perfect condition and exchange our card for a similar one that receives, for example, an 8.
Those people don't care.
You know, for the price it would cost to scan an evolving skies booster box (im guessing a box will run you around $1500, seeing as for 11+ packs it's $65 EACH), you could just straight up buy a moonbreon. If they wanted a moonbreon, they will take the money you gave them to scan the packs and buy it. And then return your dud box LOL.
You know what is more f up, hospital charges few humdred to thousand to do ct scan.
Underrated comment. They’re not ready for that talk 😂
Hospitals also have way more overhead then a guy in his shop.
But did you just compare the size of THIS device you SAW in the video WITH the ones in hospital?!
your forgetting the medical professionals, 5x the size and so one. Way more goes into looking at a human body than some paper cards.
@luckerooni1153: "one measures a card pack and one measures the human body and one of them answers the question "is there a holo" and the other answers the question "is there an illness" so naturally one costs a lot more than the other."
Make the box/pack wrappers reactive to radiation, so they change colour if they've been scanned
@@vanlux5479 I'm on it, can I borrow your time machine?
Perhaps special dot for it on the back
More businesses will offer this service. When that happens, it will get cheaper. One more reason not to buy sealed product. Buy the cards you want.
I like vintage sealed product for the sole fact its never been opened. Its like old action figures or magazines - you know whats inside, but its the fact its still sealed that is the "woah" factor. So I'd be happy to buy vintage sealed even if its been CT scanned, as long as its discounted for knowing it has no hit.
@@flookarazthere’s still going to be a collector market for sealed. But prices on just about everything might see a dip. I can see this increasing population reports for a lot of vintage. And I’m even hearing things about ppl offering this for half the cost. I can see this easily going down to like $10 a pack maybe even 5 honestly. And at that point nothing is really safe.
@RickInMaryland shut up goof.. sealed collection is a hobby in itself
Yup
Vintage loose yes you can’t do this on modern packs yet with the holos and reverses in every pack
they should scan jluvs head see if there are any good pulls
After working with him all week we have certified there is nothing in there to see. Jk. 😂
Wow! I collect hockey card unopened boxes. The fact that 2023-24 Upper deck series 1,2 and extended have introduced limited Outburst foil cards into a product that never had foil is saddening. Easily detectable.
That's crazy I'm a MRT trained in X-RAY and CT Scan and this is insane
Not good for sealed wax. Buying singles is and has been the way to go
For those who want to find a way to block a CT scan. A CT scan uses x-rays to detect deformities. To sufficiently block X-rays from a CT scan, three feet of lead thickness may be needed. The only way to control a problem such as one in this video, is to set a law to ban such use of a CT scan.
@@commandershepard6189 which will never happen, if it's your property you can't limit what you can and can't do with it.
@@commandershepard6189 but that might be a problem too, like the cost will increase 🥲
There is no legal route to stop this lol
1. Spending that much money to make a lead box around a booster box is diabolical 💀
2. You can choose not to, and I doubt anyone’s gonna pass a law that says you can’t x ray scan your trading cards you paid for
thatll never work. banning something like this will never be viable.
this so horrifyingly interesting i really wish it never happened 😅
I feel like the service should include a sticker which states the item has been scanned. If the sticker is on an etb or booster box you won’t be able to remove it without removing the seal at the same time. If your scanning it for yourself it doesn’t matter but if you’re scanning to sell, it means the buyer is aware it’s been scanned, at the same time that doesn’t have to reduce the value if the sticker is designed well and it’s viewed upon like a graded slab
I've been saying sealed could be scanned by x-rays for years... is this not common knowledge? Why is everyone suddenly panicking?
EDIT: I'm aware this is the first COMMERCIAL service. Doesn't mean it's not been happening for years behind the curtain.
you just answered your own question
Exactly. It’s come to light that it has been happening for years
@@DarkCrusade Spose you're right. Most people are stupid and it's not obvious unless it hits them in the face like this commercial service.
You should scan a booster box of Pokémon with Gi Joe booster pack in there
The value of vintage raw cards is about to grow because people will no longer trust “Sealed packs”
Or everyone with a large access to "sealed packs" will scan them at cost to themselves hoping to turn a profit. So they would immediately open any valuable cards they found and sell them on Ebay/TCG/Whatnot/Tiktok/ect. The value of the sealed packs will go down as people won't trust them as will the contents on the inside when random 9s and 10s start popping up for valuable cards.
@@PrintHammer does this mean light packs are gonna go up in price XD
@@TolisWorld I'd imagine it would mean a short term spike in price for higher value packs as people that collect pretend its not real and people that are finding success start buying them up. Then as the prices of the cards inside go down, the price of packs will follow like a trend line.
@PrintHammer Agreed, but even if everyone opened their vintage sealed pokemon or any pokemon sealed from any ear right now, not a lot of people will pull hits worth anything. With all the sealed pokemon in the world vintage or modern, only about 8% will have hits worth anything....the rest will be bulk. A lot of ppl will open packs due to fear and a small amount of raw cards worth value will enter the raw market.......sealed is dead, keep your graded and raw, not only will they be safe, they will SKYROCKET in value as sealed will totally collapse!
I've been saying this. The people with "sealed" vintage, mid-era, and modern are lying to themselves (especially the ones who invested a huge amount). The sealed market is dead, just only a matter of time.
Think this will also affect raw/grading prices for high value vintage cards. People will scan their vintage packs/boxes and open the ones with the big hitters now which will put more of them in the market since sealed will crash theres no reason not to open ones with the hits.
Raw and graded is safe! With sealed being dead, not worth buying or collecting, ppl will turn their collecting habbits, be it buying, trading ect, to raw and graded! All the money that was in sealed will transition to raw and graded. This will skyrocket raw and graded especially vintage as everyone will want it. Even if every sealed pokemon anything was opened right now.......how much of it will have hits? I'm guessing 9%! Yes, more raw cards on market but not all will be hits.......and even with more raw cards on market, raw and graded will still skyrocket because all the attention and money that was on sealed will transition to raw and graded!
The X-ray scanning trick is the best thing to get these displays stolen. The company is going to replace your potencial super display with one that has already been scanned and is much less interesting, and what's more, you'll pay for it.
The new practice of scammers.
The best way to know what is inside your booster it's to open it !
What stops them from changing the pack? They can literally scan your pack, see the holo and just replace with other and say no hit or whatever?
Screw over a few people and your entire business dries up they will make more money being honest
edit* you should change the title of ''card collecting just changed forever'' not limiting the content of the video to just pokemon since this video could be spread into many card communities end up going even more viral.
lol crazy... people can get their rare packs scanned and sell them off if it has nothing. Could imagine a lot of things dropping in price like why buy a pack or box for hundreds of $$$ when you can have it scanned for a base price to see if its a hit or miss anyways which completely devalues the whole resell market. Only limited rare old releases will end up holding value for pristine packs/cards
Until the market equilibrates to this new paradigm, I could see a number of different ways this could impact sealed and raw/graded pricing. Costs aside, this means that the timetable for "mining" vintage hits gets moved up substantially because some of the gambling behind opening gets removed. If those hits hit the raw/graded market too quickly that could actually depress prices due to increased supply. However, there's also the question of what happens to the value of the pack post-scanning because the lack of knowledge of the identity of the hit in a heavy pack is what is currently priced in to the current market price. So if you scan it and it's a "dud" pack, you now have your sunk cost acquiring the pack at a price assuming a certain probability it isn't a dud and the cost to search it that you have to recoup. Hot potato-ing it back onto a market that would become increasingly skeptical would make that trickier since there's no way on the secondary market to prove a pack hasn't been scanned unless Industrial slaps a label on the pack after it is scanned that can't be removed without removing material from the pack. So assuming all this eventually buyer trust would tank making vintage packs harder to move without lowering the price. How these factors play out together to impact the prices is impossible to say, but it will definitely be an interesting case study in market dynamics.
Oh damn. Im gonna start selling my collection before things start to get crazy.
Death of sealed products collecting! ☠️
@@sarryuken8786 firesale!
I’ll buy em 🤷🏻♂️
@@thepokeplumber Already listed all my booster boxes and also my slabs.
@@sarryuken8786 shoot the ebay link
you are so full of it. if people analyse this vid carefully they see it is promoting. small things like when you say the words "positive" and "negative" when mentioning the service. Positive was said in a happy tone while negative was said much like the word. Now i know you will say no, its aint like that but it happens throughout the whole video. If you were reporting about the company as you say why list a link to the website? why tell people, best way to use would be a walk in service, you know cause they themselves could rip you off by giving a dud box, as mentioned by you and your followers in a live stream. You have young kids following you, do the right thing in this situation.
At least it's an easy/cheap fix for future sets. Just put a layer of aluminum foil within the cardboard and it's impossible to scan. Not sure if TCG manufacturers will be too quick to make this change though.
NVM did a Google and apparently CT can scan through metal so I guess we're f'd
I'm hesitant...like you said, it could be switched out by them or a third party who purchases this equipment and also sales cards.😅
I'd imagine the cheapest fix for this would be tin/aluminium foil layer as it should cause a big enough amount of scatter effect and be very light and cheap. But I can also see the Pokémon Company not giving a shit since they just sell Pokémon cards no matter what happens and the vintage market can probably suck it in their eyes.
How do you fix vintage packs... which this is specifically designed for?
@@MaelthasDivine I don't think you can to be honest, let's just hope this doesn't become cheaper, more effective and more widespread anytime soon..
@@EvilReintje I will personally find these people and nudge nudge wink wink them...
@@MaelthasDivine anything before TWM will be 100% scannable. Maybe even the next 1-2 sets. Given the science behind xrays and lead sheet thickness…well, I’m unsure what the TCG companies will do because that’s a lot of lead.
We could see a pretty steep price increase tbh.
@viktor.m. you pay 500 bucks for 1 sealed box to be search... tell me why any1 would do that?
Rip to sealed tcg investing going forward 😭
Waiting for your Japanese Card Store Tour video 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
almost there!! thank you for being so patient!!!
Glazing this tech is wild
Exactly. He’s definitely been paid or there’s a secret relationship
Opposing this tech is equally wild. Change is inevitable. Welcome to the future
As bad as this is, this could be used to help find out whether a japanese booster box is resealed or not. To see if there are guaranteed hits or not. But I hate the idea of scanning a box of cards to see the hits.
Now plug a machine learning model in to search the files and the whole hobby goes to shit. Good buy 👋
This is fine as long as the price for booster packs and boxes comes down. The boxes/packs prices are only based off the chances of a rare wanted card. So this will just basically kill the box/pack value. Which in my opinion is a good idea overall as we want those cards to be slightly more obtainable. Or the other option is, make this illegal lol. Which ain't going to happen.
Other thing is also that sealed scanned packs will just be another more valuable item in some ways. Buying a vintage pack with a scanned holo would be a cool sales point to some collectors. "I know this has a zard because of this certificate" etc. Depends how you look at it.
Open everything and put hits on the market for 5× more.
That'll make up for the dead product you couldn't sell. 🤷♂️
At first prices will drop but people will know they'll NEVER be able to get these again and prices will shoot up after a couple years.
I hope the companies will add extra protection from scaning or something, because its hobby killer.
It's a reseller killer the hobby is collecting cardboard pictures
for future booster pack probably... but nothing can be done for old vintage booster pack
I'm wondering for very valuable sets if it would be financially viable to use MRI which maybe able to identify non foil MTG cards. For packs worth many thousands this was probably worthwhile and going on for a while already
This is wrong. Just because something can be done doesn’t mean it ethically should.
@@MrGuitarfreak132 lol
AI 'Art' moment.
Capitalism knows nothing about Ethics
LoL unethical 😂, maybe those guys should not sit on sealed products for decades, how thats sounds? Ethically?
@@MrGuitarfreak132 capitalism isnt ethical
Pokemon company gonna start putting magnets in their packs
It would be funny if they released new booster packs with a bonus magnet card inside.
Collectible magnets, here we go😂
Pokémon company won’t do anything about it because they make tons of money off modern sets. They don’t necessarily want you to hold onto unopened product since there’s really no additional gain for them
@@mikemeyers336the secondary market is actually very important to them. It generates millions of dollars from interested people. Also, new people don't buy from them directly, but the secondary market buys more because of the extra influence they receive. They care.
@@mikemeyers336yeah everyone talking about the companies finding was to stop this don't realize that it's not the mega Corp getting hurt it's the guy that buys 100 booster boxes to resell once the print run is over
I'm kinda skeptical :( what if your box get something extremely rare and they just swap you card box for another and tell you that nothing rare was found?.
I foresee companies immediately including cards in the front and back that prevents this. They can't use lead but I'm sure something could block this method which might increase the retail price of packs.
I find it funny that people want to buy packs and not open them. But each to their own .. I guess.
@@alexg3348 problem is people buying them wholesale and reselling online
With the new Pokémon TCG live app coming out on Halloween, I could see something like this pushing the Pokémon company to move even further toward digital cards and away from physical even more than it already is.
Wow science is so cool!!! Might wanna be careful of radiation maybe
Impractical, Expensive and most of all costs more than the card you're hoping to pull. I could MAYBE see this being used for vintage packs but nobody in their right mind would send a pack to strangers who could simply swap packs as many are saying in the comments before me, however not everyone is in their right mind so it wouldn't surprise me to see people send some in. Realistically the only way this could permanently affect the market is if they begin producing smaller versions of it to sell so people can do it in their own homes.
日本でカードショップとゲームセンターを経営しています。
可能性を感じる反面、詐欺が増えるでしょうね。
また市場に面白みのある商品が減ってしまうとも思えます。
システムを利用するのは、善良で好奇心のある方ばかりではありませんから…
複雑ですよね。もちろん悪い人はこのシステムを使って詐欺すると思うですけど。でもこのシステムは新しくないと思う。正直に言うと、詐欺師はこのシステムをしばらく前から使用していると思います。しかし誰でもこれを使用できれば、コレクターはある程度の保護を受けることができます。このニュースが出る前は、詐欺師だけが秘密裏に使用したかもしれない。
ところで遊楽舎ちゃんねるをいつも見ています。だから見てくれたありがとう！
ct scanned packs should have a sticket stuck on them so only way you getting it off is rip it off dmg the pack so if you want to sell people can see its been scanned and what scanned it has
I can’t see it been worthwhile except for a few very expensive vintage heavy packs. On the flip side you’ll going to then have people claiming they’ve CT scanned dud packs / boxes making out they contain a bunch of big hits using photoshopped images, giving a different pack. It would be way more cost effective to just buy the singles. A lot of the time you can open a heavy vintage pack and still lose given the cost of the pack vs the holo card which rarely grade a 10. Scanning 10+ packs to find that base set zard? Pack cost £400 for a heavy and then you’ve spent 750 or more scanning less desirable packs. You could probably just buy a PSA 9 version for the same or less with grading fees, postage, CT scanning. Resealing is much more of a concern.
I doubt the Pokémon company lawyers will take too well to it either. A decent chunk of their sales will come from sealed collectors.
If this does turn into something long term then I can see there being companies that will do radiation tests confirming the box hasn’t been scanned before being placed into a tamper proof sealed box. These will likely be more valuable than CT scanned boxes with so called hits in just on the basis they’re obviously being sold by unethical money people. Chances are they will claim the box or packs contain x card when it doesn’t.
Another thing is take XY Evolution booster boxes, I haven’t checked prices in awhile but lets say £700. People don’t buy the boxes because they’re going to profit from a box like that on the contents, the singles are worth next to nothing. People buy to have the box in their sealed collection or if they’re doing ok for money they might rip the packs for entertainment. It would make no sense paying maybe 1000s to see what’s inside.
Not to mention all the health risks by those doing these scans. Is it worth it? Who knows if there’s any slight health concerns with people then handling the boxes afterwards after being scanned many times trying to get scans of what’s inside.
So for now this service is only for packs that cost $100s of dollars. Like vintage etc. in the future price will go down I guess. Either way they should have kept this secret and in house and sold everything on eBay even the dud boxes.
In the future ones the scans get real good, it might even be possible to scan a Charizard while it's still in box. Such box value would be out of this world. Just another layer of card collecting.
The only packs worth scanning are HEAVY Vintage loose packs because lets be honest, no one is sending a sealed vintage BB to these people, its 75$ to scan a single pack, BB's are TBD because they need multiple scans to get accurate data and it takes a lot more time to look through a BB, so scanning a BB through their website will probably be ultra expensive.
Based on pull rates, the amount of money you would need to give to these people to find a modern chase, ~14 BB's, like a Moonbreon or Greninja would be astronomical, you would most likely be out way more money even after you sold the dud boxes to recoup your losses than if you just opened the product yourself to get the chase card.
IMO this is all just fear mongering, there is no security if you send in ultra high ticket sealed products, and there is no profitability sending in modern products.
Nah this is crazy. Never thought it'd be possible
I collect yugioh, and this has killed it for me. All the fun is gone because I'll always have that doubt and wonder if ive been scammed. Unless something changes, i won't be buying any sealed anything because i just can't trust it anymore.
The only way I could see people being okay with it is if when scanned there was some permanent marking or barcode on the pack or product that stated it’s been scanned and has the info on the website.
Do you realise me as a booster box collector would never send some random company my products and just hope they will tell me “yeah this box actually has 15x the value of the price you paid for this service” like someone mentioned already they could buy junk packs of every set and just wait till a customer sends a hit and swap it out.
This is insane man.
gambling with pokemon cards just became impossible for the every day collector.
At $65 per pack. I see this not being an economical option. Let’s face it. You’ve usually got to go through multiple packs to find decent cards. 10 packs cost you $650. So if you send in six packs you would have to be extremely lucky to recoup your money.
definitely not for modern, the value isn't really there. for older stuff, the value prop ramps up
Imagine being a pokemon radiologist 🤣
On the part of them possibly sending back a dud, don't the boxes have unique bar codes/barcode numbers on them? So couldn't you have that number when you send it and when you get it back, verify it's the same? I don't know much about pokémon collecting, just got into it recently after over two decades haha
Great stuff in covering this. Wild to me to see that this is possible and curious of the effects.
Death of sealed products collecting ☠️
@@mtv565 from an investing standpoint maybe. But think about from someone just literally collecting & don’t care about value, I love the idea of a discounted sealed box because it’s verified no chase hits in it
@@atrocioustcg Then it's just a beautiful piece of trash
@@mtv565and that’s what this is anyway. The people ok with it want it all to be worthless. Probably linked to financial jealousy and envy. There’s nothing positive about any of this. The hobby requires both players and collectors simultaneously. Why don’t you just bring pictures of cards to Kinkos and print them? If you just want to hold the art, there you go.
So would an evolving skies sealed booster box that has been scanned and confirmed to have a moonbreon inside be worth more than an unscanned sealed evolving skies booster box?
Yes, CT scans use ionizing radiation, a type of energy that can cause a small increase in the risk of cancer. However, the benefits of CT scans usually outweigh the risks.
I doubt the Pokemon company will do anything to prevent this as physical card packs opening has been sun setting anyway with Pokemon moving into digital packs (ptcg pocket) and the new under developing Altered tcg. Given how fast technology is developing nowadays I won't be surprised we will soon be able to know every single card in a sealed booster case without opening it. However the value of sealed products will still be there just like a sealed iPhone 3G that you know exactly what's in there but the seal will still hole its premium.
i think every TCG will need to adapt otherwise they run the risk of people losing interest in modern product, it sitting on the shelves, causing an issue for LGS's etc. the cards need to remain physical at least for the near future for competitive TCG play. but you're right, maybe in 10-15 years, in person play moves to fully digital. now that is a scary thought!
Havent commented in a while due to loss in the tcg interest.
I still collect pokemon, mtg and sorcery.
Im glad you brought this up. Even bigger reason to buy singles.
I still love you and your hair.
single collectors stay feasting. thanks bro, nice to see your name pop up again :)
As of now based on pricing, I feel like this is really only good for larger price items. The fact that for 11+ packs its $65/pack is insane. But for now, I feel like its just more of a concept for consumers until the price drops. Also, Id be curious then if theres a way to test if these products have been CT scanned? Not sure what the science would be behind that but Id be curious to know lol
Unopened seal cases gonna be the way to go at this point, loose box's just gonna be very toxic for older box's
Can you open the Evolving Skies ETB just to verify it's the only hit?
If they can partner or develop the scanning to work with AI to figure out the images this will evolve very quickly to where they can set a guarantee % of accuracy
70 buck is expensive but this mean vintage sealed products are officially worthless
giving the company info on how to help them with transparency, hmmm. why did you do that for? oh i get it part of your reporting duties.
can pokemon company potentially change the packaging to block this?
Could this possibly damage the cards?
Honestly i think theyll do something about this. If people stop cracking packs thats going to seriously affect profits
hoooolyyy. this video is going to go nuts.
Pack weighing already tainted the hobby, but this is just the final nail in the coffin. There's a lot of people in this hobby that have the money who will absolutely be investing in these to take advantage of this for huge profit.
Most boxes have a promo made just for that box. You want the promo you have to have that box period. Fuck scanning they will just sell the card out right for higher prices.
I don’t think sports cards have much more money than Pokemon. Sports have a few super ticket cards but the industry of Pokémon is far bigger than all sports cards combined. Also most of the high ticket sports cards are not found in sealed product unlike Pokémon.
Another lovely JLUV video!
i wonder if the TCG companies will "fight" back and make some sort of scan proof packaging..
I bet they already have a 1ed Base Set booster pack with a crappy holo inside and are waiting to do a switcheroo when the Charizard finally arrives.
Honestly I think this will be easiest for single packs and collection boxes with single packs, for sure now I’m never buying a loose booster pack again of vintage
So can they scan booster boxes and locate what type of holos are in it. I can understand a single pack, but a box with multiple packs? Is that possible
@@AlphaRobins yes people have done it…