What's My Line? - Jean Pierre Aumont & Marisa Pavan; PANEL: Joey Bishop, H.G. Brown (Jul 24, 1966)
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- MYSTERY GUEST: Jean Pierre Aumont & Marisa Pavan
PANEL: Arlene Francis, Joey Bishop, Helen Gurley Brown, Bennett Cerf
NOTE: Closing credits added from an older rerun pre-GSN-credit-crunching.
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Much thanks to the person(s) uploading these videos. I have been enjoying them for some time now. I understand why the show lasted so long. Timeless appeal to one and all. Excellent panel, host and guests.
Bennett loved the question about whether something has ever been alive.
I am addicted to this show now! I love Arlene. But, once again, I’m a little taken back over how they swoon over Sinatra, when they had to know the terrible things he had been saying about Dorothy during his live shows. Here, it’s not even been a year since her death. And, I also read that he didn’t even care that she died. I guess he was really famous then...but it just wouldn’t sit well with me.
A big hand for Helen Gurley Brown's hair stylist! This new cut is very flattering and makes her look years younger.
This was telecast on my sixth birthday but I wouldn't know it existed because we had no television nor had I known it was my birthday. I had always thought that only rich people owned a television set.
Seems as though the beauty of the first contestant swept Joey Bishop off his feet as he tried to ask his first question.
The next six episodes of "What's My Line?" had all been taped in advance for future airings since May, and as they aired from July 31 to September 4, the cast was taking another "Summer break" from the show.
When they came back on September 11, they were now in color (at least on the original broadcasts), and at Studio 50 The Ed Sullivan Theater.
"Is it something that could be Lifted,?"
(I Love the Oft' times Amusing - Hystyrical - Comical relationship and question present between panel question and guest occupation LOL)
😂😂😂😆
That Swedish woman was beautiful - and sweet. She even acknowledged the audience.
Wow that baseball usher was both gorgeous and charming.
The first contestant - Fun to see the clothing and hair styles.
Oh, whoa. It's been a long time since we've last seen Marisa Pavan on "What's My Line?".
The last time happened nearly 10 years ago on September 2, 1956. She and her husband (who were married twice) made a few appearances on the new daily WML in Syndication.
Per the elevator lady: I am shocked SHOCKED, that Bennett didn't ask how business was, so that he could get an "up and down answer.
Joe Postove Ah yes... as in:
Bennett: "How's the elevator business?"
Contestant: "It has its ups and downs."
:D
SaveThe TPC Exactly. Maybe even Bennett (although I doubt it) thought that a smidge too far.
Joe Postove Oh, I don't believe that for a second. Not Bennett-- he had no shame. :) He must have just not thought of it.
In this period Joey Bishop had been a guest host on the Johnny Carson Tonight Show many times , and about to host his own late night talk fest in opposition . A young Regis Philbin was his Ed Mc Mahon .
The Shea Stadium usher reminds me of Daisy Mae in Li'l Abner. No doubt it's the combination of her hair and the polka dot top.
John Daly says that the first contestant was an Usher for two years.
That would also include the two times The Beatles performed there: First on August 15, 1965, and then on August 23, 1966, the latter during what turned out to be their final American tour, as well as their final tour overall.
I wasn't able to find anything definitive, but the best I could come up with was that the Mets had their own usher staff separate from the stadium's staff. At this time during the 1960's, Shea Stadium was also home to the New York Jets. In any article about Mets ushers, it never mentions that they worked for the Jets also.
Furthermore, neither team owned the stadium. The City of New York was the owner. To increase the revenue to the city, other events were held at Shea. College football was played there on occasion in addition to the Jets (and the football Giants for two years when Yankee Stadium was being renovated). And there were many other concerts besides the Beatles. It was also the site of boxing matches in the sixties, it hosted an international "friendly" soccer match in the sixties and a Cosmos playoff game in the seventies, wrestling matches were held there and it was the site for some religious rallies.
Presumably when the primary tenants weren't involved, the City supplied their own team of ushers.
Shea Stadium opened in 1964, so she may very well have been one of the original ushers!
The first contestant is very beautiful, and naturally she would be.
She is from Sweden. The very country that gave us Ann-Margret Olson.
Her name was Gunnel, a very common name for a girl in the 30s-60s. Not many girls are named Gunnel today. As a girl you can actually be named Gun as well in Sweden, nothing strange at all. "Gun" is an old nordic word for "battle". :) Other names are Gunilla, Gunhild, Gunborg (my grandmother), Gunvor and Gunlög. The male forms can be Gunnar, Gunde, Gunder, Gunno or Gunvald.
Johan Bengtsson Gunnel comes from "Gun(n)hild, whereof "gun" is as you said, "battle" and "hild" which means "holy" or "devoted to". All the Valkyries (goddesses of battle) had their names ending with "hild". Gunnar means "Warrior". :)
One of the better What's My Line? Having beautiful contestants helps a lot!
Whoa - Arlene could flirt like nobody’s business, but if Martin did it, he heard about it.
It was part of their shtick.
Bennett asked the elevator seller if the thing went up and down as well as forward and backward. He got a yes when he should've had a no, because the thing doesn't go forward or backward. At least no elevator I ever saw does that.
Yaaaay Joey Bishop is back!
He seemed absent to me.
@@RikardPeterson He seemed very drunk to me.
Somehow appropriate that an elevator vice president would have an elevated hair style.
Marisa Pavan received a Best Supporting Actress Oscar nomination for her role as Anna Magnani's daughter in "The Rose Tattoo" (1955). She lost to Jo Van Fleet in "East of Eden." Magnani won the Oscar for Best Actress but was unable to attend the ceremony. Marisa accepted the statuette for her.
Curiously, Jo Van Fleet also appeared in The Rose Tattoo.
Aumont was previously married to movie siren Maria Montez (1912-1951) known for her exotic Universal escapism pictures. She died suddenly of a heart attack at 39. They had one child. Marisa had two children by Aumont.
1:30 > Stay tuned folks. It won't be long before Sinatra's tuxedo shows up again on WML.
So how about that. The Studio 52 era of "What's My Line" (since June 12, 1960) began with Joey Bishop, and ended with Joey Bishop.
Even in airing order, it began and ended with him. Also, this was the last black & white episode that was produced, and the last one that aired had him as a Mystery Guest (Taped on June 17, 1966).
I was happy to see Joey Bishop back on the panel again, but what happened to him that evening??!! In his previous appearances on the WML panel he had been an excellent panelist, and also very funny, but he was barely articulate in this episode!
SaveThe TPC He seemed to be *very* absent-minded, yes! I have a lot of theories about what the reason could be, even some jokes, but I don't trust my English to be good enough to express my thoughts here. ;)
SuperWinterborn SaveThe TPC The obvious-- if not always correct-- answer is alcohol.
What's My Line? Oh yes, at least one of the reasons why. ;)
+What's My Line "The obvious--if not always correct--answer is alcohol." If I ever own a pub, I believe I'll have this motto carved above the backbar.
The Persian Room Plaza Hotel NYC is now called the Champagne Room at the Plaza Hotel in NYC...
Jean-Pierre Aumont was a decorated veteran of WWII awarded the Legion d'Honneur and the Croix de Guerre. Hé married Marisa Pavan, born Maria Pierangeli the twin sister of Pier Angeli who died in 1971 of a barbiturate overdose. Marisa's breakout role was as Anna Magnani's daughter in Tennessee Williams' Thé Rose Tattoo. She was a devout Roman Catholic and was married to Aumont, Jewish, for 46 years until his death in 2001. They had two sons. She is still living. The life stories of both of these are fascinating and Wikipedia touches on enough to give a hint of their achievements and many talents
For the record: The 1966 season was the first time that the New York Mets did not finish in last (10th) place in the National League. They finished 9th in the National League, with a record of 66-95, in Wes Westrum's only full season as manager of the Mets. The last place finisher in the NL in 1966 was the Chicago Cubs, in Leo Durocher's first year as manager, with a record of 59-103. (That was the Cubs' only losing season with Durocher as manager, by the way.)
And, while the New York Yankees did, indeed, finish in last place in the American League in 1966 (their fortunes being the subject of comment on several previous WML? episodes in 1966), they had a better record than the Mets that year, finishing at 70-89, just a half-game behind the 9th place Boston Red Sox, who finished 72-90.
And while female ushers at the baseball parks may have been a relative novelty in New York at the time (though females worked as ushers only at Shea Stadium, but not at Yankee Stadium), we in Chicago had had them for years (along with male ushers), courtesy of Andy Frain, Inc., the professional ushering company based in Chicago which was then a "prestige" starter job for many teenagers (some of whom continued to work part-time and full-time for the company for years), and which also had offices in Louisville, Miami, Memphis, St. Louis, and several other cities back then.
The season before Leo Durocher became their manager. the Cubs finshed eighth. he commented that the Cubs weren't an eighth place ball club. He was right, but not in the way he intended. However he was a year premature. In 1967 the Cubs finished third and had a winning record.
20:00 Marisa is still hanging in there, however her twin sister died in 1971.
Referring to the Mets-Dodgers double header on this date relevant to the Shea Stadium usher, the Dodgers en route to the National League pennant that went down to the last game of the season, won both games and shutout the Mets both times. Thus Bennett commenting on how poorly the Mets played that day. Actually the Mets were riding a 6-game winning streak when the Dodgers came to town and they won the opening game of a four game series on Friday to stretch their streak to seven before losing the next three games, on Saturday and Sunday.
Even with the losses, they were 42-54 at the end of play on this date, much better than their efforts in their first four seasons (they lost 3 out of every 4 games in their inaugural season). And they continued to play improved ball until their season fell apart in late August. From August 24 (when they were in 8th place with the same record as their American League crosstown rivals, the Yankees) until the end of the season, they won 10 and lost 25. They fell from eighth place to ninth.
If the usher was interested, she could watch the games that day on television or listen on the radio. They were played in Los Angeles. The second game would have ended shortly before WML went on the air, probably within 15 to 30 minutes of WML air time.
Bennett mentions that the Mets needed a new third baseman. Ironically the Mets third baseman was one of the better members of the team: veteran Ken Boyer who had been NL MVP two years earlier in leading the St. Louis Cardinals to the pennant and World Championship.
In the opening game, Boyer went 2 for 3 against Don Drysdale. Big D had not done well that year after his historic holdout with Sandy Koufax. His won-loss record going into the game was 6-and-11. But he blanked the Mets on six hits while ringing up 10 strikeouts. His home run in the third inning was also the first run of the game. He also had another base hit later in the game. Jack Fisher took the loss in the 5-0 defeat. The Mets had three more base runners than the Dodgers in game one, but they left 10 men on base, had one erased on a double play and another was caught stealing. With three homers, the Dodgers left only four on base.
As was typical of the second game of a double header, both teams started pitchers who were not in their regular starting rotations. The Mets started Gerry Arrigo during his brief tenure with them as they were deciding whether he fit in their plans as a starter. He was acquired from Cincinnati in May and sent back there in August. He pitched well, giving up only one run in five innings, but that was more than enough to saddle him with the loss.
Bonus baby Joe Moeller, said to throw harder than both Drysdale and Sandy Koufax, was the Dodger starter in game two. Winless up to that point of the season, he had been the youngest player in the majors when he made the majors in 1962, his second professional season. But a combination of wildness due to the Dodger coaches tinkering with his delivery on breaking pitches, and injuries (some of which may have been due to the Dodgers rushing him to the big leagues) resulted in him only pitching in the majors in even numbered years from 1962 to 1966.
This was only his fourth start of the season. Seven shutout innings allowing only four singles (three of them infield hits) and one walk brought his ERA down to a sparkling 2.01, even though he only struck out one batter. He also helped his cause with a sacrifice bunt when the Dodgers scored the first run of the game in the fifth inning. He walked and scored a run when the Dodgers erupted for four unearned runs in the seventh inning to break the game open. Phil "The Vulture" Regan, pitched the final two innings to complete the shutout and get the save.
This time the Mets only stranded four baserunners as two were erased on double plays and another was doubled off base on a line drive to third baseman John Kennedy.
Unlike Koufax who struggled early in his career, Moeller never lived up to his early promise. Injuries and inconsistency continued to dog him during his eight major league seasons (full or partial) all with the Dodgers. His lifetime record was 26-36 with a 4.01 lifetime ERA.
Thank you.. Love this kind of detail! Nicely done.
Bennett's hair seems to be much darker in this episode. Wonder if he's dyed it a little darker or if it's just the lighting.
Looked like he used a lot more dye or used a darker dye on this episode.
Its the film or film exposure. Notice even Arlene's hair looks darker than it usually appeared. This was probably because this particular episode was pre-recorded and not aired live, so either they used a different type of film, it was processed differently, or it is a copy of a copy, causing the light and dark contrast to be different than we are used to seeing.
Hi I'm Dominican. And I like these episodes What's My line? .I must Say jean Pierre Aumont was María Montes's husband.She was the Queen of the Technicolor, borth in Barahona,Dominican Republic. So God bless to all.From Higüey Punta Cana city Dominican Republic God bye 🙏🙏🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴
Bennett asks if this product (the elevator) moves up and down as well as side to side. Well, since an elevator, by the definition of it's holy name, moves up and then down again so it can move up some more, does not move side to side. So BC should have gotten a no.
Joe Postove I thought the same thing, yes. Elevators never move from side to side. Never. If he had said "as OPPOSED to moving back and forth", fine, but not "as well as side to side".
What's My Line? If there are "elevator type" conveyances that DO move side to side, they're not really elevators.
Joe Postove What's My Line?
The contestant's answer of "sometimes" made me think that perhaps there were some elevators that might move slightly from side to side on some floors? I don't know enough about elevators to know if that's either possible or true, but that's what her answer sounded like. The only elevator I have heard of that could move from side to side as well as up and down was in Willy Wonka's fictional chocolate factory! If I'm remembering correctly, I believe the wonderful workings of this elevator are mentioned in the book, "Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator," which is the sequel to "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory." There may also have been similar elevators on the Starship Enterprise in one or more of the "Star Trek" series. Any Trekkies out there, please let me know if I'm right or wrong on this. :)
SaveThe TPC But, TPC, if it does move side to side, it is not an "elevator, It's a sideways moving machine that we shall now call "Sidie".
SaveThe TPC I don't think John had Willy Wonka or Star Trek turbolifts in mind. :) If there was such a thing as an elevator, any elevator, that moved side to side, this should have called at BEST for a qualified yes. I've certainly never heard of such a thing, and I can't even envision how it would be done, technologically speaking, in 1966. It's surprising to me that Bennett didn't get sidetracked by this misleading answer.
My mom was about to turn 1 around this time....
Did women have a whole lot more hair back then? Or did most of them wear large wigs? I can't imagine the kind of work that goes into maintaining that type of hairstyle, whether it's real hair or a wig. How does that work?
I wonder if the lack of great applause indicates that perhaps the audience did not know the MG's on sight?
Sometimes.
after watching and rewatching these for several years now, I just realized that, while many mystery guests were from a variety of ethnicities, I can't remember a single regular guest of color.
Craig Heller The head butler at the White House was one. They've had a number you just haven't seen.
Sammie Davis Jr was on with regularity.
Harry Beafonte too.
There were several.
Sammy Davis and Harry Belafonte are unresponsive answers to your point because they were MGs. But there were a relatively small number of guests of color who were regular guests. The most recent before this episode was a man who was a baseball umpire, who was not only African-American, but the first African-American major league umpire (that fact was not mentioned). Earlier regular guests of color included a White House secretary and a judge.
I think elevators are pretty much standard size back then.
I was watching "A Face In The Crowd" tonight for the nth time, and it never loses it's power. IMDB notes Bennett Cerf as being in the movie in an uncredited bit part. However I didn't see him. Is he in the film? Did I miss him. I did see Sam Levinson, Burl Ives, Virginia Graham, and some others in bit parts, but not Bennett. Help from youse mavens?
Joe Postove His cameo lasted all of 2.5 seconds, in the background of a crowded scene. He doesn't get a closeup and he has no lines. He's more like an extra than a guest star.
What's My Line? Gary, can you tell me when in the film this is. I'll go back and try and find him. Thanks!
Joe Postove I think I've seen a clip from this film. Bennett is in a cafe, sitting at a table in the background of a bar. A delivery boy comes in with a telegram or so, and gives it to one of the guests by the table.
SuperWinterborn Thanks SW!
Joe Postove It's beyond underwhelming, Joe. If someone hadn't helped me locate the moment where he appears, I could have watched the whole film and missed him, just as it appears that you have several times.
joey was usually not this annoying as he is here.
He’s a jerk. The way he behaved in regard to the beautiful young Swedish woman was nauseating.
Joey Bishop was so funny in a very droll kind of way.
I've never seen anyone more drunk on WML.
As funny as toothache. He acted like a jerk on this show.
How exactly do you SELL elevators?
Marisa had an equally beautiful twin sister named Pier Angeli, who was also an actress, and, in 1956, a Mystery Guest. But tragically, she killed herself in 1971.
Even to this day, people still wonder why Pier killed herself. The generally accepted belief is that she never got over the death of James Dean. But those who knew her said it was because she was so afraid of turning 40 (she was 39 when she died).
***** Marisa was lucky in her choice of husband. Pier wasn't.
SuperWinterborn Which one of the two girls was older in terms of minutes and/or seconds? Was it ever established?
***** Not far as I know, Vahan. My guess would be that Marisa was the older one. They're often the strongest of twins. (I have twins myself and lived together with one who had a twin brother, besides being friend of two girls who were twins)
***** Pier's life was filled with more than her share of tragedy, including Dean's death. Apparently she lost custody of her children, but some believe her overdose was accidental. She had a new show she was preparing for, I understand, and suffered insomnia. As someone who used barbiturates to help her sleep, she may have taken a lethal dose accidentally.
Hi, Pier did not kill herself, it was a sudden heart attack in her sleep as a tragic result of badly administered medications
One of the very rare times I had no idea who the mystery guests were.
Scratch that remark...I've actually seen several movies Marisa Pavan was in, includeding The Rose Tattoo...just didn't know her by name, and had no idea she is Pier Angeli's twin sister! WML can be very informative.
Usher lady was a true dyed blonde. Lol
I'll be glad when WML switches to color.
But we won't see that season in color! :(
Miss Pavan and Mr. Aumont had a very long marriage, Good for them.
Well, sort of. According to wikipedia, they divorced and then remarried. Maybe they had two fairly long marriages? In total, they were married a long time. Aumont was married to two other women before Pavan: one of these marriages ended in divorce and his other wife died. Wikipedia says he was dating Grace Kelly when she met Prince Rainier.
@@preppysocks209 What is strange is according to online they are married from 1956-1963 and remarried from 1969 until Jean Pierre's death in 2001. However, if this program was aired in 1966, they were in between marriages during the taping and yet they were introduced as Mr. and Mrs. Aumont
Jean Pierre, Marisa, and Pier all appeared on WML.
I'm # One! Do we get two today Gary!
No I screwed up the scheduling on one of the shows.
Arlene would not of liked martin to do that too a woman. ,🥺
How do you sell an elevator?
Well, if people are stupid enough to be conned into buying the Eiffel Tower, it should be easy.
elevators are lots of fun... for little kids.
No you can't sit on it, you can sit in it tho
Painful to watch the first segment. Awful panel asking terrible questions to a very poor guest.
Are there today, any female umpires in MLB?
Not yet. There are female refs in the NBA though.
They say blonds are less intelligent. It’s borne out here. 🤣🤣🤣
Never heard of either one of them.
ignorance is bliss !
Nor had I.
Arlene must had a facelift...
Thanks! I'm loving all the post-Dorothy episodes. :-)
Robert Hansen The post-Dorothy era is not as bad as people say it is.
And I say this as someone who is more of a fan of the 1960's episodes, than of the 1950's ones.
***** Honestly, I've never seen anyone, not once, say the show was bad after Dorothy died, just that it wasn't the same and lost some of its magic.
Dorothy was the best...the same conspiracy that killed JFK killed her...the bastards!!!
@@VahanNisanian Reminds me of the famous comment about Wagner's music -- "It's not as bad as it sounds."
I enjoy it as much. The female substitutes were all good.
Famous guests: Who??
I DESPISE Cerf...with every fiber
Those WML names defined in full.
Cerf - (i) An overbearing and rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.
Beautiful, perfect, pure Swede woman! A dying race indeed... literally. God Bless!
Don't know what you're talking about. There are plenty of women here in Sweden still.
But... ABBA!
The shea stadium usher went to the same college as me
Joey Bishop was so annoying.
He’s a jerk who thinks he is hysterically funny.
With my apologies to WGW, Joey Bishop ranks right up there with Groucho Marx on the obnoxious meter. Just shut up and ask the friggin' questions. You're not funny!
Joey is a HORRIBLE panelist(in my Top 10 worst & i've watched over 200 shows) how he managed to make 2 dozen appearances? I'm guessing he had connections; obviously not Blue Eyes since he couldn't stand him
Agreed. He is a jerk.
And I also have to agree with those previous commenters who find Joey Bishop's schtick on this particular episode of WML? to be tiresome and unfunny and even obnoxious. It's as though he's channeling his inner Victor Borge - and I most certainly do not mean that as a compliment.
I'm old enough to remember Joey Bishop's early career in television. IMO, he tried too hard to be funny on WML. I never found him to be very funny.
I think he was quite drunk.
@@richatlarge462I think he was being a jerk … and was as funny as toothache.