My mother had that round Sunbeam vacuum cleaner. New star ⭐️ Dick Van Dyke now year 2024 he is 98 years old and still dancing sixty four years later 😊 📺
Our mom, w/8 of us kids, had a Sunbeam also. It must have took some wraglin' for WML to arrange the butcher, baker and the candlestick maker together. Couldn't have fate!?! 😉
Sometimes, when I think about the behaviour of people these days versus during the time when this show was taped, I get really, really sad. All the guests wrote in cursive script! The men wore bowties, the women were beautiful, coiffed and everyone was so eloquent! I especially love Arlene Francis, she is extraordinary in every way.
I thought it was interesting that when Arlene guessed it was Gertrude Berg, she referred to her as "MISS Berg, because Gertrude Berg was considered an "older women" and, back then, even women referred - respectfully - to older women as 'Miss' or "Mrs"__________. Among women, it was unusual to use another woman's else's first name until invited to do so. It was a sign that you were inviting them to assume a friendship was developing. You will find this product of 'manners' was very prevalent up until the '70s, and especially between women. (Men didn't usually ask for permission to use another man's first name.) And this is how 'good manners' persisted even throughout the 'Swingin' Sixties.' And yes, What's My Line was the classiest of the 'game shows.' You could see the culture that was in place back then on a show like this.
Fun fact… John Charles Daley only missed 2 games in 16 years and that was out of his control.. he never called in sick once either. Dang… this man took his job very seriously and we loved him. I was very saddened to hear Arlene had dementia later on in life and of course, when we lost Dorothy to murder… that was horrific. Disgusting how the NYPD handled that case when we all know they knew what truly happened to her. RIP to the whole panel! You made tv so special! I wasn’t born until 71 but I remember my parents and grandparents enjoying it back in the day on live tv. They don’t make shows like this anymore… it’s all CRAPPY reality junk… long gone are the classy ladies and gentlemen.
Gertrude was earning $2000 each week writing scripts for NBC radio during the Great Depression of the ‘30s! Her radio and tv show, The Goldberg’s was scripted after her own Jewish grandfather’s American plight. She wielded much clout in “the business”.
This is a perfect example of why both Arlene and Miss Dorothy were so good at guessing the profession. They listened to the information and processed it. Many times, other panelists didn't bother to listen to the information being conveyed.
It would stand on it’s own. If you sat it on the ground, it would remain upright on its own. John Daly was correct. And it’s a candlestick - the holder of the candle, not the candle itself.
@@leesher1845 - Arlene was right, given my recent experiences in the Texas almost week long power outage in February of 2021. I had to burn numerous candles and because I didn't really have anything TO PUT THEM ON, couldn't find any candlestick holders, I had a mess to clean up once we had our power back.
The only thing that I could think of was that candles can be carried, especially when thin king of a Christmas Eve church service and the people hold candles singing "Silent Night". Also candle can be on a wall sconce, but I believe this would be covered by Arlene's question.
You do put it on something, a candle holder or whatever. It can't stand up by itself unless it's those fat ones but still you stand the fat ones on something.
Dorothy had been covering the wedding of Princess Margaret (sister of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth Ii) and Antony Armstrong-Jones. Venetian Way had recently won the Kentucky Derby.
"A support or holder for one or more candles, typically one that is tall and thin. Synonyms: candle holder, candelabra, menorah, flambeau, sconce..."a pair of brass candlesticks"
The women's clothes from the fifties and even the sixties were really someting! Flowered hats, crinoline underskirts, and gussoies of every sort. Oh, yes==gloves.
Wrong! Anita Gillette was a panel member on several episodes in the 1970s and particularly on the last episode of What's My Line taped in 1974, and she is still alive at age 87. Alan Alda was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and he is still alive at age 87. Elaine Joyce was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 87. Ruta Lee was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 88. Dana Valery was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 79.
Steve Lawrence was a panelist as well as mystery guest. He's 88 years old and made a statement a while ago that he has Alzheimer's. I think he had an amazing singing voice along with eydie gorme. They were very polished and professional. I wish him well.
@@sophiemorrison9820 I'm glad to hear that Steve Lawrence is still with us, but I'm sorry to hear that he has Alzheimer's. Both Steve and Eydie were great singers. I remember fondly their appearances on the Carol Burnett show when I was growing up.
The attention given to Princess Margaret's wedding is sad in retrospect because it ended in divorce and she, the Queen's sister, being rumoured to have lots of affairs, drink and cigarettes. I never heard of her being called Princess Meg as in the caption. The baker who made the wedding cake came from Morecambe, a seaside resort in Lancashire that is often overshadowed by Blackpool to the south. Good for him to put Morecambe on the map!
Cathi Shaner She was not beautiful by normal standards, she had nearly no chin and lower jaw. Nevertheless she had really some pretty features (eyes and eyebrows).
Celisar1 Who’s normal standards? Beauty may scientifically and culturally be quantifiable, but I find that very boring. Physical appearance is meaningless .. I want to see the soul in your eyes. Everyone is beautiful. My opinion. Be well. 💕🐝
Everybody’s handwriting was so beautiful. With the baker, they asked if there is no animal products, they said no, but what about eggs, milk, honey, butter?
They said no to Mr. Cerf's question as to whether it had ever been alive but no to Dorothy's statement clarifying that it had no animal products in it, meaning it did contain animal products. A baker with 1,100 baking awards in Britain should know something about eggs and milk, imho.
I agree with Arlene - she should have been given a Yes & John splitting hairs was (unintentionally) misleading. Of course you place candlesticks on something; tables, fireplace mantels, end tables, etc.
He lied when he said a candle is more decorative than useful. If your power goes out, it’s more than useful. Lied when he said it can be larger than a phone booth too.
Usually WML did not indulge such obvious gimmicks as this one. The year before this gimmick, WML did a show of twos culminating with "The Sound of Music" children. Gil Fates's book on WML featured a chapter about "owls" -- WML jargon for new or minor entertainment celebrities not instantly recognizable. Fates gave as one of his owl examples Dick Van Dyke in the late 1950s when Goodson-Todman used him in some of its game shows. 2 years later he was instantly recognizable.
I love this show. Could you please tell us what connection your grandfather had on this show as well as anything you can remember hearing Thank you kindly
Arlene doesn't have her heart necklace on. I will have to pay attention to the episode dates so as to figure when she started wearing it. Will let you know!
First, Bennett noticed the pattern, but didn't pursue it. Second, he got hosed - a candle is consumable - he uses that term often, and it applies here.
I would see Dorothy come out and about half the time her waist was not that small, forgetting that during the time she was on the show she also was having children, I believe 3 ?
He was a comedic actor, singer, and dancer. Looking “smart” was not what he was paid to do. In his later murder mysteries he was pretty much always the smartest person in the room.
Sometimes it is odd how Arlene looks at the dress the contestant is wearing as they walk away. Wondering why no one didn't tell her that it looks odd to see her do that.
The panelist on the far left almost always watches the guests leave. It has been guessed it is because there are tripping hazards between the end of the desk and back stage.
I wondered about that but maybe American homes then had telephones attached to the wall with some sort of a cover over them? We didn’t even have a telephone! 🤣
Yes, exactly. We don't have stewardesses, comediennes or male nurses. We have flight attendants, comedians and nurses, as it should be. Now if we could get rid of actresses (well, you know what I mean).
As much as I love Dick Van Dyke, this game was not his strength. However, he was great in this 1959 spoof with Art Carney: th-cam.com/video/KF1UsdzvJP8/w-d-xo.html
With absolutely NO racist overtones intended, I wonder whether Mrs. Betty Rode (the butcher; also the first contestant on this episode of WHAT'S MY LINE?) was a light-skinned black woman? Just curious.....
jmccracken1963 I can see why you wondered about that. I like to guess the ethnicity of people as well. It is so fascinating how different humans can look despite being so similar in every other respect.
Reminiscent of a tall, handsome young Eleanor Roosevelt and very loquacious. Thought maybe she was a politician or entertainer during her banter with Mr. Daly.
You and about six other commenters here ought to pool your life savings, go in on a time machine, go back to 1960 and give everybody a good scolding. But don't bother taking your cellphones----no WiFi back then.
![What's My Line? - Peggy Lee; Ben Gazzara [panel]; Martin Gabel [panel] (Feb 28, 1960)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ohpIY004gZE/mqdefault.jpg)
My mother had that round Sunbeam vacuum cleaner. New star ⭐️ Dick Van Dyke now year 2024 he is 98 years old and still dancing sixty four years later 😊 📺
Our mom, w/8 of us kids, had a Sunbeam also. It must have took some wraglin' for WML to arrange the butcher, baker and the candlestick maker together. Couldn't have fate!?! 😉
Love these shows
Sometimes, when I think about the behaviour of people these days versus during the time when this show was taped, I get really, really sad. All the guests wrote in cursive script! The men wore bowties, the women were beautiful, coiffed and everyone was so eloquent! I especially love Arlene Francis, she is extraordinary in every way.
I can't believe no one guessed it by picking up on Mr. Cerf's clever deduction after both the butcher and the baker.
Bennett Cerf is clever only in his mind.
Yes, it was kind of refreshing to see him get his come-uppance.
Van Dyck still with us in 2024 …
With a very high probability that he is the only remaining 😮living person in the theater
Dick will be 99 years of age in December. He is very blessed !! 🙏
@SweetChicagoGator President James Earl Carter Jr. will be 💯 this December.
@@RonGerstein The benefits of eating all those lovely peanuts, uh?!😸
I thought it was interesting that when Arlene guessed it was Gertrude Berg, she referred to her as "MISS Berg, because Gertrude Berg was considered an "older women" and, back then, even women referred - respectfully - to older women as 'Miss' or "Mrs"__________. Among women, it was unusual to use another woman's else's first name until invited to do so. It was a sign that you were inviting them to assume a friendship was developing. You will find this product of 'manners' was very prevalent up until the '70s, and especially between women. (Men didn't usually ask for permission to use another man's first name.) And this is how 'good manners' persisted even throughout the 'Swingin' Sixties.'
And yes, What's My Line was the classiest of the 'game shows.' You could see the culture that was in place back then on a show like this.
Fun fact… John Charles Daley only missed 2 games in 16 years and that was out of his control.. he never called in sick once either. Dang… this man took his job very seriously and we loved him. I was very saddened to hear Arlene had dementia later on in life and of course, when we lost Dorothy to murder… that was horrific. Disgusting how the NYPD handled that case when we all know they knew what truly happened to her.
RIP to the whole panel! You made tv so special! I wasn’t born until 71 but I remember my parents and grandparents enjoying it back in the day on live tv. They don’t make shows like this anymore… it’s all CRAPPY reality junk… long gone are the classy ladies and gentlemen.
Those kardashians could never touch the class of these amazing people
I miss 1960.
Why couldn't that world remain?
This show was a little before my time, but I think I have heard of every mystery guest until this one. I had never heard of Gertrude Berg.
Star of "The Goldbergs" of the 1950s.
Gertrude was earning $2000 each week writing scripts for NBC radio during the Great Depression of the ‘30s! Her radio and tv show, The Goldberg’s was scripted after her own Jewish grandfather’s American plight. She wielded much clout in “the business”.
So wonderful to watch these shows.
Mr. John C Daily n Mr B Cerf total n complete gentleman at all times
That's because we used to teach our children respect.. honor..
@@susanslack6347Absolutely. Manners!
haha! A butcher, a baker, and a candlestick maker...clever! :)
My dad was a baker, and a good one.
My dad was a pastry chef & a baker. He whipped my mother a birthday cake in less than an hour ! 🤗
The butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker. lol
What a classy group.. sad those type people are so hard to find.
Not in these times.
Tv today is crap… reality nonsense. No one on tv can touch the class these wonderful people upheld. Truly.
Dorothy looking quite beautiful in this one.
I had a crush on Dorothy when I was a child watching this show with my parents each Sunday night. Where did the years go?
Clever episode!
she's right. you put it not only on something, always, but in something as well. love arlene
This is a perfect example of why both Arlene and Miss Dorothy were so good at guessing the profession. They listened to the information and processed it. Many times, other panelists didn't bother to listen to the information being conveyed.
And Arlene was robbed. John was incorrect about a candle not standing on anything.
I think some of this is rigged in someway
It would stand on it’s own. If you sat it on the ground, it would remain upright on its own. John Daly was correct. And it’s a candlestick - the holder of the candle, not the candle itself.
Uh s@annhutcheson5770
@@annhutcheson5770 Exactly.
My 11th birthday the night this show aired.
Yes, we all read John O'Hara in high school.
I could watch this night and day - and I do .... (By the way: Arlene was right with her assumtion the candlestick can be put on something)
She was absolutely correct. I don’t know what John Charles Daley (Daly?) was thinking.
@@leesher1845 - Arlene was right, given my recent experiences in the Texas almost week long power outage in February of 2021. I had to burn numerous candles and because I didn't really have anything TO PUT THEM ON, couldn't find any candlestick holders, I had a mess to clean up once we had our power back.
The only thing that I could think of was that candles can be carried, especially when thin king of a Christmas Eve church service and the people hold candles singing "Silent Night". Also candle can be on a wall sconce, but I believe this would be covered by Arlene's question.
"The Goldbergs" with Gertrude Berg, is a show worth watching.
Irene Francis very Beautiful lady n mrs D Kilgannin as well I truly miss all these delightful persons
It’s Arlene not Irene and Kilgallen not Kilgannin. You really must try harder. 👨🎓
I heart Dick Van Dyke!
Arlene's objection highlights the fact that panelists often get stuck on irrelevant questions. Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
You do put it on something, a candle holder or whatever. It can't stand up by itself unless it's those fat ones but still you stand the fat ones on something.
"Drunk" is the proper conjugation of the verb "to drink.
Dorothy had been covering the wedding of Princess Margaret (sister of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth Ii) and Antony Armstrong-Jones.
Venetian Way had recently won the Kentucky Derby.
Arlene had every right to be indignant. A candlestick doesn't stand on its own, it has to be put in a candlestick holder.
Actually, a candlestick is the object that holds the candle....remember, he works at a brass company
"A support or holder for one or more candles, typically one that is tall and thin. Synonyms: candle holder, candelabra, menorah, flambeau, sconce..."a pair of brass candlesticks"
Craig Calman - Or on a desk or table, for crying out loud.
I was born on this day. 58 years ago
So was my cousin Rick in 1948, from cousin Bill!
Happy Birthday! 👍
And not to try to win the contest, but this aired the very day I was born :)
I wasn’t.
A candle stands on its own for 2 seconds only !!(Without a holder.)
The women's clothes from the fifties and even the sixties were really someting! Flowered hats, crinoline underskirts, and gussoies of every sort. Oh, yes==gloves.
Wow the cake maker should have given some tips since he won 1,100 awards.
A lot of the contestants were tall, the men and the women. Mr. Daly said he was 6 feet 1 and some were taller or very near his height.
My biggest question after the last guest is: what was the candle for which was LARGER than a telephone booth???
Dick Van Dyke is the only panel member still alive. From ANY show. Not just this one.
Wrong!
Anita Gillette was a panel member on several episodes in the 1970s and particularly on the last episode of What's My Line taped in 1974, and she is still alive at age 87.
Alan Alda was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and he is still alive at age 87.
Elaine Joyce was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 87.
Ruta Lee was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 88.
Dana Valery was a panel member on some episodes of the show, and she is still alive at age 79.
Steve Lawrence was a panelist as well as mystery guest. He's 88 years old and made a statement a while ago that he has Alzheimer's. I think he had an amazing singing voice along with eydie gorme. They were very polished and professional. I wish him well.
@@sophiemorrison9820 I'm glad to hear that Steve Lawrence is still with us, but I'm sorry to hear that he has Alzheimer's. Both Steve and Eydie were great singers. I remember fondly their appearances on the Carol Burnett show when I was growing up.
Alan Alda was on this show in the 1970s, and he's still alive.
William Shatner was a panalist
Dorothy is beautiful today & Arlene is always attractactive.
Bennet figures out the clue and guesses the occupation of the third regular guest well ahead of the game at 14:25.
Right? Yet even knowing that he doesn’t go back to that
The attention given to Princess Margaret's wedding is sad in retrospect because it ended in divorce and she, the Queen's sister, being rumoured to have lots of affairs, drink and cigarettes. I never heard of her being called Princess Meg as in the caption. The baker who made the wedding cake came from Morecambe, a seaside resort in Lancashire that is often overshadowed by Blackpool to the south. Good for him to put Morecambe on the map!
Bakers, in my mind, perform a very necessary service. Probably, with my own dietary practices, I have sent many bakers' children to college.
Dorothy looks SMASHING here. When there was effort put into it she could look very beautiful. She looks healthy here too.
She was beautiful every time ... some people fail to appreciate all
Cathi Shaner
She was not beautiful by normal standards, she had nearly no chin and lower jaw. Nevertheless she had really some pretty features (eyes and eyebrows).
Celisar1 Who’s normal standards? Beauty may scientifically and culturally be quantifiable, but I find that very boring. Physical appearance is meaningless .. I want to see the soul in your eyes. Everyone is beautiful. My opinion. Be well. 💕🐝
@@amazinggrace5692 YES! Thank you.
Hey Arlene's turn with cakemaker edited out...footage lept to DVD🎩
Everybody’s handwriting was so beautiful.
With the baker, they asked if there is no animal products, they said no, but what about eggs, milk, honey, butter?
Even though it is a meat, eggs were at that time called “dairy”.
They said no to Mr. Cerf's question as to whether it had ever been alive but no to Dorothy's statement clarifying that it had no animal products in it, meaning it did contain animal products. A baker with 1,100 baking awards in Britain should know something about eggs and milk, imho.
@@alansorensen5903 no they didnt
Wheat was once alive and grew too. 🎉❤😂
Dorothy looks really pretty
Arlene was 100% right about candlesticks. Sometimes I wonder about John Charles Daley’s synapses.
"Skip it." (4:51) Boy, oh, boy you got that right Bennett.
Arlene looks as beautiful too.
I would like to know what candle is larger than a telephone booth! 🤔
I think in those days the term lady was nore commonly used in reference to a woman.
I agree with Arlene - she should have been given a Yes & John splitting hairs was (unintentionally) misleading. Of course you place candlesticks on something; tables, fireplace mantels, end tables, etc.
He lied when he said a candle is more decorative than useful. If your power goes out, it’s more than useful. Lied when he said it can be larger than a phone booth too.
Usually WML did not indulge such obvious gimmicks as this one. The year before this gimmick, WML did a show of twos culminating with "The Sound of Music" children.
Gil Fates's book on WML featured a chapter about "owls" -- WML jargon for new or minor entertainment celebrities not instantly recognizable. Fates gave as one of his owl examples Dick Van Dyke in the late 1950s when Goodson-Todman used him in some of its game shows. 2 years later he was instantly recognizable.
CLASSIC 😎🔥
Arlene was right about the candlestick.
😂😂😂 best contestant group ever!!!
They all glance down Arlene hides it the best
Its so crazy to see my own grandfather on this show, shaking hands with these old celebrities. Those $50 are probably in my college savings!
Please tell, who is your grandad, whats his story?
I love this show. Could you please tell us what connection your grandfather had on this show as well as anything you can remember hearing
Thank you kindly
Arlene doesn't have her heart necklace on. I will have to pay attention to the episode dates so as to figure when she started wearing it. Will let you know!
I think her necklace is hiding it.
I think the same as Llyn Gibson. I have seen it hidden under necklaces before.
I would really like one of those but I guess real diamonds would break the bank 😥
John fixed Bennett in this one.
I want that vacuum .
Ty
Bennett Cerf should've went with his earlier instincts again, on the Candlestick Maker joke...........lol!
Anthony Kardoes Funny how John was able to not tip the later surprise and kept his cool when Bennett mentioned the candlestick maker.
Arline. You win. The host is not always right.
And the candle stick maker was missing a few candles.. Not that bright.
When people had manners.
Dick Van Dyke did a good job too!
Quite an outfit that lady butcher is wearing, wouldn't you say?
Her hairdo!!!..wow😐
The lady butcher looked great. Love her dress.
She got married on May 6.
it ain't no odd to look at nobody's clothin! either the clothin is adorable or despicable. and that's that!!
Did you just recently learn English ? That sentence makes no sense.
LOL! Just got the joke-a Butcher, a Baker, and a Candle Stick maker! :D
Only if Gertrude Berg's middle was Ann!!!😂😂😂😂
I always thought it was June. Guess I was wrong.
First, Bennett noticed the pattern, but didn't pursue it. Second, he got hosed - a candle is consumable - he uses that term often, and it applies here.
The man makes candlesticks, not candles. Candlesticks hold the candles.
Guessed right though.
Arlene can see 17:40
I didn't notice.
I would see Dorothy come out and about half the time her waist was not that small, forgetting that during the time she was on the show she also was having children, I believe 3 ?
Dan Celli
As far as I know she had only one child while the show aired originally- her youngest son.
@@Celisar1 incorrect. Two of her children were on the show together WHILE their mother was in the hospital ... Having given birth to child 3.
She wasn’t paid fir her waistline but for her brain, which was impressive.
@@gilliankew - But, dang it, her waistline was too.
At what point in DvD's career does he ever look smart, and not the fool in the room?
At the Bank.
He was a comedic actor, singer, and dancer. Looking “smart” was not what he was paid to do. In his later murder mysteries he was pretty much always the smartest person in the room.
@@donlove3741 That response gave me a smile, thanks :)
He did not make candles. He made candlesticks, which hold the candles and are not consumed.
I saw Dick in Bride on Broadway Wonderful show
I saw him in Mary Poppins … abysmal.
So the lady butcher had a side hustle modeling.
This aired the day of my dad's birth!!! :D
I must be too young!!! Don't know who Gertrude Goldberg is???😮
You'll get over it.
You know, they never had an undertaker on.....would have been great...but that never would go over w the refined wml crowd back then
Princess Margaret was married in June of 1960 was she not?
From Wikipedia: "They were married on May 6, 1960, in the first royal wedding to be televised."
Mandela effect.
Sometimes it is odd how Arlene looks at the dress the contestant is wearing as they walk away. Wondering why no one didn't tell her that it looks odd to see her do that.
The panelist on the far left almost always watches the guests leave. It has been guessed it is because there are tripping hazards between the end of the desk and back stage.
She seems to be looking at the ground
Arleen is so hot here.
And, unlike you, she can spell her own name correctly.
@@LANCSKID Shut up wise ass.
Dorothy asked if a candlestick was bigger than a telephone booth and she got a no. WTF
I wondered about that but maybe American homes then had telephones attached to the wall with some sort of a cover over them? We didn’t even have a telephone! 🤣
Really one of the heaviest pieces of neckwear I ever saw Arlene wear. How does she avoid toppling over?
BUTCHER
BAKER
MG: GERTRUDE BERG
CANDLESTICK MAKER
"A lady butcher," or, as we call it in 2013, "a butcher."
Yep. That was an old term, like 'Male' Nurse.
Yes, exactly. We don't have stewardesses, comediennes or male nurses. We have flight attendants, comedians and nurses, as it should be. Now if we could get rid of actresses (well, you know what I mean).
Arlene: Meet me outside.
She was absolutely right. See my other contribution. Dang.
That was the custom at that time. Live with it.
Ok, but we don't have to "live with it" now.
As much as I love Dick Van Dyke, this game was not his strength. However, he was great in this 1959 spoof with Art Carney: th-cam.com/video/KF1UsdzvJP8/w-d-xo.html
The word drunk was correct.
No. She can't.
John Charles Patrick Croghan Daly was an African-American.
He was born in South Africa: Johannesburg.
@@RonGerstein
Laugh a little. He was African-American.
With absolutely NO racist overtones intended, I wonder whether Mrs. Betty Rode (the butcher; also the first contestant on this episode of WHAT'S MY LINE?) was a light-skinned black woman? Just curious.....
She was from the same town that I'm in. She's was a white woman. She passed in 2009.
jmccracken1963
I can see why you wondered about that. I like to guess the ethnicity of people as well. It is so fascinating how different humans can look despite being so similar in every other respect.
A tall gal butcher...:)
Reminiscent of a tall, handsome young Eleanor Roosevelt and very loquacious. Thought maybe she was a politician or entertainer during her banter with Mr. Daly.
A lady butcher 😂❤She was quite charming.
A lady butcher 😂❤️
"Solid and stiff", "come come Dorothy". Yikes!
So weird (and disturbing) to hear a Brit like Dick Van Dyke try to do such an unconvincing American accent.
She's a Butcher. 'Lady Butcher' is a term that is obsolete , like a 'Male' Nurse.
At that time it was the convention to do that and thus not obselete
You and about six other commenters here ought to pool your life savings, go in on a time machine, go back to 1960 and give everybody a good scolding. But don't bother taking your cellphones----no WiFi back then.
When he said it it wasn’t
The sexism of the day. “Lady butcher “.
I had an uncle who would eat candles after they came out of the cake, all covered in cake and frosting.
😨😨😳