I totally hear this, definitely not a wide range! I’ve been kind of thinking of it as a 16mm and a 24mm for the most part. Kind of a 2 in one with the trade of only 2.8 instead of 1.4 or 1.8 like you might get with a prime.
As a single zoom lens, its range is rather limited. But as a pair with a zoom starting with 24, or even 28mm it makes sense, as the 24-35 overlap can be done without. Not sure it’s for me, but I’m not dismissing it yet.
I would be interested in more detailed comparison to the Sony 16-35 f/4 PZ. Is image quality the same? As primarily a still landscape photographer is it better to have f2.8 vs. f4 or the 35mm vs. 25mm upper end?
I do lots of hiking and backpacking and having owned the Sony 16-35 f4 PZ, I didn't like the powerzoom. Although 2.8 is not really needed for landscape photography, I would get this lens over the PZ. And since you'll most likely have a 24-70 or 24-something, 25 vs 35mm on the upper end doesn't really matter.
@@funnybeingme Thank you for the response. I'm coming over from Canon and up until now have been using relatively small size primes. Frankly, I'm tired of changing lens so I'm looking for a compact zoom that can stay on my camera most of the time. Your comment about the PZ is interesting. Coming from primes only I have never had a zoom feature to worry about before.
I’m new to zooms and I started with the 24-50 f2.8 and loved it and didn’t hesitate to add this one to my collection. It has not disappointed. I’m a hybrid shooter primarily shooting landscape and street.
For me personally I much more prefer less lens swapping out and having a little bit more of an overlap giving me that buffer. I would rather have something and not use it than to not have it and be upset that I can't use it. F4 versus F 2.8 is not going to matter in daylight situations, The price difference also should warrant the fact that on paper brand new they are both $1,200 however a 16 to 35 PZ4 can be found on Facebook Marketplace for around $600 to $800 in like new condition that's me is all worth it saving $400 and getting the optical quality of a GM Mark 2 but paying half the cost. The power zoom feature is very nice because it can be controlled in a way that tailors to use specifically or better yet smooth operation. Sure if it was F 2.8 it would be the most ideal setup however it's not the case I don't feel like spending $2,000 on a Mark II the Mark 1 doesn't make sense The 16 to 25 is nice but overall it's very limiting on only a 9 mm focal length distance not to mention it still extends not only is the PZ4 lighter it's also internally zooming another big win in my book.
I’m really considering this lens. I’m a photo guy and want some wider snaps with 2.8 capability. I do wonder if I’ll regret not going for the 16-35 G2 for that 35 end. If I had the 35 it would be the perfect travel lens. Or do I just carry the 24-50 as well? 🤷♂️
I just bought this 16-25 to pair it with my 35GM. When traveling I always want a fast prime on me for when the sun goes down so the 16-35 or 24-70 never interested me. This 16-25 is a God send for me.
That footage looks fantastic for what would be considered a more affordable alternative to the GM series! I'm curious how it would perform with say the ZV-E10.
Dunna great video as always. You have been my teacher for years! Two questions: where is this forest? did you bring lights out to the shoot, or is this all natural sunlight? Particularly the sitting on the log part @ 6:51? You must be lit! Third question: there is no way this is shot with a 2.8, right? this looks like 1.4 or 1.8 but which lens?
@jeffreythemeditator the talking head bits are at Mount Douglas park… there is some forest there but I’m definitely only on the very edge of it by the parking lot so I could still get the light. The video example was at a place called McKenzie Bight
Hi Antonio! I have a big doubt about the quality of the lens. I'm considering buying the 16-25mm for my Sony APSC 6700, but I wanted to confirm if for social networks there would be a big difference in quality between that lens or the Sigma 18-55 2.8? Or even the Sony APSC 16-55 2.8? Please help me with this question.
Been really wanting the 16-35 GM II but with that price tag the 16-35 PZ was an option but didn't want the PZ zoom... So now I am seriously debating the 16-25 G! With the extended barrel does it lose weather resistance?
Nope! They put weather sealing in that area too just like on the GMii. I don’t know if this is AS weather sealed as the GM lenses, but it has some still!
Great Video! I'm really struggling with all the choices. I have a pretty good lineup when it comes to lenses from 24mm onwards. All I'm missing is a wide angle lense and there I'm just not sure if I should go rather for a prime (e.g 16mm f1.8 GM or 20mmf1.8) or this new zoom lense here... I have one prime lense (135mm f1.8) and its optics are just so great that I always tend to the prime option but its just less versatile....the struggle is real😂
I use the 20 1.8 for my TH-cam videos. The most recent ones are without a crop if you wanna check that out. Great for talking head stuff. I keep it at 1.8 in those videos. But 2.8 is barely noticeable when I mess with it.
Yes would love a video comparing the 14 GM, 20 G and 16-25 G. Especially because on the a7RV you can simply go into APSC mode with on the primes and get the longer focal length.
I do like shooting video too but Im not sure if the zoom range from 16-25 is really worth choosing this over just the 20mm 1.8 prime. Im trying to decide between the new Sigma 24-70 and the Tamron 28-75. I also need a wide angle though, so Im trying to figure out which focal lengths worth getting the more expensive lens for. Either cut cost and get the Sony 20mm 1.8 prime (instead of this 16-25) to put the extra money towards the new Sigma 24-70mm, or spend more on wide end and get this Sony 16-25 2.8, and save money getting the Tamron 28-75. So many decisions lol
In your case I think the 20G would be the better companion to the 24-70/28-75 because it gives you a faster aperture. It would give you a lens that you can that's better in lowlight as well as a wide focal length.
I’m gonna need a longer review of this 16-25mm to the 16-35mm GM2 . I have a student discount from B&H that allows me to get the GM2 for $1950 , but still waiting for the edu price for the 16-25mm , I’m thinking it will be about $1050 . Trying to see what’s the justified price for a hobbiest that does paid gigs about 1 or 2 times every couple months . I have a Sony A7IV. Been looking for a good wide angle zoom lens .
Same but different here. My brother in law will be in Japan in summer and there the 16-35 will be under 2k Euros for me compared to the 2.699 in the German market. I own the 24-50/2.8 for my a7iv and love it for its size and weight but it's hard to decide for me. The 16-35 GMii seems to be a possible every day lens for city trips in Europe or in cities like NYC combined with the 24-50 in my bag
Great video!🙏😊👌 Would love to see a comparison to the 20mm 1.8, seems like that lense is the parent of these G compact series. I've owned it for a few years now and can vouch, the G series quality is very close to the GM one. 👀🔥🔥
That’s such a great point! Funny enough, that lens was the first one that I used this format (with the kind of hiking video example segment) on! So it’s all come full circle!
I know not every Sony lens is at least 'G', but so many of them are nowadays, and the inclusion of the aperture ring is the primary reason I would ever consider one over a 3rd party option. Many of the 3rd party options just don't have this feature, except for Sigma. I started my photography journey on manual lenses and it can be hard to *enjoy* using an autofocus lens without this feature.
I think I'd prefer the 1635 PZ F4, but it's very close. I already have a 24mm GM but I'm looking for a bit more zoom and the more I shoot, the less I use apertures below F/4. Many of my shots are at F/8. I love to put lots of detail in my shots, showing both the subject and its environment, and printing these to put on my wall.
Thanks a lot for this review Dunna! Still the price is the only factor that throws me off but I understand that if you want the quality that this lens can give, you gotta bring the full wallet with you. So far, I am happy of my kit lens: Sigma 16mm f1.4 for crop sensors (so it becomes a 24mm both on my Sony A7iii and A7siii) and every other focal length is covered by the Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 which I absolutely love (although I wish it weighed less) as it has the quality of a Sony G-Master. For portraits, I still own a Sony 85mm f1.8, which is a little gem in my opinion for its overall look/compactness/affordable price but the Tamron covers that focal lengths so well that lately, I am considering selling it and use those bucks on an extra wide lens. Probably one of the 3 Sony released a while ago, like the 11mm f1.8 (which would effectively be a 16.5mm on my full frame cameras). I tried the latter on a recent shooting and it performed very well. Finally, the honourable mention goes to my beloved Helios 44-M 58mm F2 vintage lens, which gives me the most interesting and most juicy image of them all, as it's famous for its beautiful bokeh.
Sounds like a pretty great kit you’ve got! I definitely hear you about the price on this one. While it’s “affordable” in the grand scheme of how expensive lenses can get… it’s still a good chunk of change!
@dunnadidit yes, it's understandable that Sony makes you pay more than the competitors as their lens is a native one. Probably a good move would be waiting a year or so and find a second hand one for 25% less (like 900/950 bucks) and then selling both my Sigma 16mm f1.4 and Sony 85mm f1.8 to get a few hundred bucks back. Is that a good plan? If you see any flaws in it, please let me know as your opinion is very appreciated:) P.s. I incredibly forgot to mention the most used lens in my kit, which is the Sony 35mm f1.8. Selling that one too, along with the other two, would make me cover the entire investment for the Sony 16-25. I doubt I'll sell it though, because it's so easy to carry and reliable and I can't imagine myself bringing that 1.2kg Tamron beast on run and gun shootings where a simple 35mm is required :)
I own Sigma 16-28mm f2.8 and it performs "very" well on my A7CR. Although watching your review made me want to switch to this new Sony lens, I just can't justify selling the Sigma that works very well for me and spend more money just to get the Sony lens that deliver virtually the same performance as the Sigma in my opinion. So, I'm gonna pass on this new lens. Great video. The outdoors clip is nice. BTW, couple of typos in your video at 5:25 and 6:15, Tamron is 17-28, not 16-28. 🙂
Yeah if you’ve already got the sigma and you can live with the focus breathing… there’s no real need to get this lens for sure! Ugh thanks for the heads up, I was so careful not to SAY 16-28 when talking about the Tamron and then I went and typed it in 🤦🏻♂️
I just bought the 16-35 GMii a week ago and love the lens but the fact that this is smaller and "pretty close" to the quality of the GMii makes me want to return the GMii. As a 16-35GMii owner would you sale your GM and get this lens for a lighter set up? I vlog and also shoot some brand videos on my FX3. Been also looking at a ZEV1
I LOVE my GMii so I definitely wouldn’t sell it for this. But it just depends on how important that size/weight is for you. My opinion would be to hold onto the GMii if you can afford to.
Did you add reverb to the 416 recorder? And it so, why.. on earbuds it sounds a bit like a toilet reverb. I know for sure it’s not the 416 as I’ve used this mic since 1998 and always sounds dry and clean.
No reverb added… just some eq and compression Sounds clean on my end 🤷🏻♂️ a bit different than it normally sounds because of how close I’m holding it but I was feeling pretty good about how it turned out 🤷🏻♂️
@@dunnadidityeah no worries, just checked on tannoy speakers and other headphone and it’s fine. Must be some processing my earbuds do. I hate autocorrecting tv’s earbuds and speakers.. it always messes up good stuff and only slightly fixes bad stuff 😊
Literally have the Sigma 16-28 in my cart for an upcoming shoot as I watch this. lol Trying to see if there's a reason to go with the Sony over the Sigma.
Opinion on this 16-25mm F2.8 vs the Sigma 14-24mm, seems like this one will be sloghtly sharper and faster but the extra range on the sigma will make it more versatile.
There’s a setting in the camera that applies an automatic distortion correction and some kind of profile built into the electronics of the lens. Generally I think most people just always leave it on auto and I recommend that!
Love your videos and how you're always outdoors. As a cyclist/hiker myself, I prefer to see a lens out in the wild than in a studio with artificial lighting. Do you shoot your videos with natural light, or do you also bring lighting with you? It doesn't use the XD linear motors like the GM lenses/20mm G, just something to note.
You’re absolutely correct! Just dual linear motors but not the XD ones. Thanks so much for the kind words about the style of content, all of it is just natural lighting… usually at a fairly unfortunate time of day in terms of where the sun is haha. The video is shot in SLOG3 and color graded if that helps give you an idea of the pipeline!
It doesn’t cost twice the money of the Tamron as far as I’m aware. Tamron is $900 and this lens is $1200. The quantification of why I think it’s worth it comes down to the increase in image quality, mostly in corner sharpness and in chromatic aberration, but more importantly than that, the Sony handles focus breathing way better. Also, on Sony cameras, the autofocus is better, and high speed burst shooting, certain types of stabilization and lens breathing compensation only work with Sony lenses. So you’re gaining other user experience features as well.
So long story… but was watching someone else’s review on the TH-cam app on my tv and I went to post this comment towards the end of their video when I guess yours started to autoplay. So comment was directed at someone 😅😂 but appreciate your reply all the same
Hey there! Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately I haven’t had a chance to shoot any Astro with it, but based on other results and specs, I feel like this would be really solid!
Sigma 16-28 is a better option IMO and covers the ranges needed for environmental portrait, real estate, urban wide portraits and landscape. There is no need for many fps for photos at that wide range. Optically they are all great but for the price, I won't for for its zoom range limitations.
my actual set count a7Cii + 12-24GM f2.8 + 24-50 f2.8 for my use is better 12-24 but clearly the "tiny set" 16-25+24-50 born to offer compact, 67mm filter lenses with relatively affordable price since the 16-25GM and 12-24GM are really expensive lens. If you do not care abount f2.8 then the 16-35 f4 are really a top option as said in the video, for the rest of lenses i do not take in consideration: every non-original lens lose to many function to be take in consideratione... for example the autofocus frame rate in video are limited to 15fps with compatible lenses... etc...
Saw the 24-50 G and was interested. Wasn’t for me be I really liked what they were trying to do with the size, weight, performance and price. Just didn’t fill a hole in my kit. When this lens was announced, it was basically an instant purchase. My 24-70 GM (1 and now mark 2) has been my workhorse lens for years at this point. I’ve always loved the 16-35 but it just never got enough use to keep it in my kit and taking up space. So far, I’ve been insanely pleased with how it stacks up optically. I don’t really use it like a zoom though, I tend to treat it like dual primes - a 16mm and a 24mm (or I guess 25mm). This won’t be for everyone, but it’s been a really inspiring and helpful addition to my kit. That close focusing at 16mm is a really cool new look for me as a creator.
I love the colors on this video! As far as the lens review, I would have loved to see more hand held vlog style (no slow mo) to see how effective the IBIS is. Because as we know, Sony lenses works better with Sony IBIS. Thanks!
Well, if it’s any consolation, I shot ZERO slow motion in the example video. So all of the little handheld shots of the forest and the moss and such was just the stabilization of the a7cii
Questionable option. Nice to have compact 2.8 WA lens but zoom range is narrow. 16 mm looks geometrically weak - distortion and stretched sides. In this I'd prefer 20 1.8 G. Also new WA addition to G compact primes line-up would be really welcome - 16/17/18 mm 2.8 is a wish!
Generally I don't like buying lenses that is not optically correct and camera digitally correct it based on lens profile. Like why am I paying so much. Yeahs it's compact and cool, probably same concept as anamorphic and desqueezing. I know it's very petty, but for the price they are charging, I expect it to be optically good, then finesse all the minor flaws in post.
32-bit float recordings are absolutely useless unless you're recording extraordinarily loud sounds with microphones than can actually use that dynamic range. Please do not use 32-bit float if you record talking head or footage like this. The 'quality' increase is just wastefulness on your hard drives.
32-Bit float is incredibly helpful, especially when paired with a good microphone. It’s not the miracle that some TH-camrs claim it is, but that floating point is absolutely useful especially in dynamic recording situations. It doesn’t erase room noise, or correct for awful mic awareness, but it’s definitely not absolutely useless (unless it’s paired with a terrible mic with a low max spl)
@@dunnadidit Midway through the video, you had written out the focal length range of the Tamron zoom lens as 16-28, but it's 17-28. Hardly a problem, people can figure it out :)
What a stupid focal length... Seriously.. 16mm perfect for landscapes... 24? what use does 24 have when you already have 16..no good for close up portraits, 16-50mm would have made sense.
For only 9 mm coverage, I feel like I would rather just have the 16mm prime. If I’m investing money, the 16-35 is just the better option imo
I totally hear this, definitely not a wide range! I’ve been kind of thinking of it as a 16mm and a 24mm for the most part. Kind of a 2 in one with the trade of only 2.8 instead of 1.4 or 1.8 like you might get with a prime.
got 16-35 way better option
As a single zoom lens, its range is rather limited. But as a pair with a zoom starting with 24, or even 28mm it makes sense, as the 24-35 overlap can be done without. Not sure it’s for me, but I’m not dismissing it yet.
I love this line of thinking - "I'm restricted to 9mm delta...so let me just restrict myself to a static focal range" 😶🌫
A 16mm prime would be ridiculously limited lol. Much more than the 16-25. The best prime to replace this would probably be the Sony 20G.
1:41 if you were to upgrade from original sony a7c would you get the c ii or the cr mainly a photographer but do alil video
I would be interested in more detailed comparison to the Sony 16-35 f/4 PZ. Is image quality the same? As primarily a still landscape photographer is it better to have f2.8 vs. f4 or the 35mm vs. 25mm upper end?
I’ll definitely keep that in mind! I wish I had it on hand for when I shot this!
I do lots of hiking and backpacking and having owned the Sony 16-35 f4 PZ, I didn't like the powerzoom. Although 2.8 is not really needed for landscape photography, I would get this lens over the PZ. And since you'll most likely have a 24-70 or 24-something, 25 vs 35mm on the upper end doesn't really matter.
@@funnybeingme Thank you for the response. I'm coming over from Canon and up until now have been using relatively small size primes. Frankly, I'm tired of changing lens so I'm looking for a compact zoom that can stay on my camera most of the time. Your comment about the PZ is interesting. Coming from primes only I have never had a zoom feature to worry about before.
I’m new to zooms and I started with the 24-50 f2.8 and loved it and didn’t hesitate to add this one to my collection. It has not disappointed. I’m a hybrid shooter primarily shooting landscape and street.
For me personally I much more prefer less lens swapping out and having a little bit more of an overlap giving me that buffer. I would rather have something and not use it than to not have it and be upset that I can't use it.
F4 versus F 2.8 is not going to matter in daylight situations, The price difference also should warrant the fact that on paper brand new they are both $1,200 however a 16 to 35 PZ4 can be found on Facebook Marketplace for around $600 to $800 in like new condition that's me is all worth it saving $400 and getting the optical quality of a GM Mark 2 but paying half the cost. The power zoom feature is very nice because it can be controlled in a way that tailors to use specifically or better yet smooth operation. Sure if it was F 2.8 it would be the most ideal setup however it's not the case I don't feel like spending $2,000 on a Mark II the Mark 1 doesn't make sense The 16 to 25 is nice but overall it's very limiting on only a 9 mm focal length distance not to mention it still extends not only is the PZ4 lighter it's also internally zooming another big win in my book.
I’m really considering this lens. I’m a photo guy and want some wider snaps with 2.8 capability. I do wonder if I’ll regret not going for the 16-35 G2 for that 35 end. If I had the 35 it would be the perfect travel lens. Or do I just carry the 24-50 as well? 🤷♂️
I just bought this 16-25 to pair it with my 35GM. When traveling I always want a fast prime on me for when the sun goes down so the 16-35 or 24-70 never interested me. This 16-25 is a God send for me.
Thank you for the video😊😊. A question for you if you have a Sony a7siii And Canon R5 Which will you choose?
I’m pretty biased in that regard because I’ve got a pile of Sony glass and I’m super familiar with it so a7siii for me
That footage looks fantastic for what would be considered a more affordable alternative to the GM series! I'm curious how it would perform with say the ZV-E10.
Yeah that would be interesting to see!
11:18 Love the bokeh here, man! Good job! ✌
Cheers! Thank you!
@@dunnadidit Is that 50mm 1.2?
35mm f1.4
5:30 Correction Tamron 17-28*
Dunna great video as always. You have been my teacher for years!
Two questions: where is this forest? did you bring lights out to the shoot, or is this all natural sunlight? Particularly the sitting on the log part @ 6:51? You must be lit!
Third question: there is no way this is shot with a 2.8, right? this looks like 1.4 or 1.8 but which lens?
Thank you so much! This is all 100% natural light! The talking head bits were the 35mm f1.4… probably at f1.8 or f2 depending on the light and angle.
@@dunnadidit thanks man. you really found the light for this shoot. And which forest is this?
@jeffreythemeditator the talking head bits are at Mount Douglas park… there is some forest there but I’m definitely only on the very edge of it by the parking lot so I could still get the light. The video example was at a place called McKenzie Bight
Hi Antonio! I have a big doubt about the quality of the lens. I'm considering buying the 16-25mm for my Sony APSC 6700, but I wanted to confirm if for social networks there would be a big difference in quality between that lens or the Sigma 18-55 2.8? Or even the Sony APSC 16-55 2.8? Please help me with this question.
Been really wanting the 16-35 GM II but with that price tag the 16-35 PZ was an option but didn't want the PZ zoom... So now I am seriously debating the 16-25 G! With the extended barrel does it lose weather resistance?
Nope! They put weather sealing in that area too just like on the GMii. I don’t know if this is AS weather sealed as the GM lenses, but it has some still!
Great Video! I'm really struggling with all the choices. I have a pretty good lineup when it comes to lenses from 24mm onwards. All I'm missing is a wide angle lense and there I'm just not sure if I should go rather for a prime (e.g 16mm f1.8 GM or 20mmf1.8) or this new zoom lense here... I have one prime lense (135mm f1.8) and its optics are just so great that I always tend to the prime option but its just less versatile....the struggle is real😂
This is 100% the struggle! Prime is generally going to give you better optics but these newest zoom lenses are seriously putting that to the test.
I use the 20 1.8 for my TH-cam videos. The most recent ones are without a crop if you wanna check that out. Great for talking head stuff. I keep it at 1.8 in those videos. But 2.8 is barely noticeable when I mess with it.
Yes would love a video comparing the 14 GM, 20 G and 16-25 G. Especially because on the a7RV you can simply go into APSC mode with on the primes and get the longer focal length.
I do like shooting video too but Im not sure if the zoom range from 16-25 is really worth choosing this over just the 20mm 1.8 prime. Im trying to decide between the new Sigma 24-70 and the Tamron 28-75. I also need a wide angle though, so Im trying to figure out which focal lengths worth getting the more expensive lens for. Either cut cost and get the Sony 20mm 1.8 prime (instead of this 16-25) to put the extra money towards the new Sigma 24-70mm, or spend more on wide end and get this Sony 16-25 2.8, and save money getting the Tamron 28-75. So many decisions lol
Hi. What u ended up with
In your case I think the 20G would be the better companion to the 24-70/28-75 because it gives you a faster aperture. It would give you a lens that you can that's better in lowlight as well as a wide focal length.
Thanks!
My pleasure! Thanks for the super!
The 32 bit float definitely got my attention over and above the lens itself! Do you have a video?
I’m gonna need a longer review of this 16-25mm to the 16-35mm GM2 . I have a student discount from B&H that allows me to get the GM2 for $1950 , but still waiting for the edu price for the 16-25mm , I’m thinking it will be about $1050 . Trying to see what’s the justified price for a hobbiest that does paid gigs about 1 or 2 times every couple months . I have a Sony A7IV. Been looking for a good wide angle zoom lens .
I’ll keep a direct comparison video in mind for sure!
Same but different here. My brother in law will be in Japan in summer and there the 16-35 will be under 2k Euros for me compared to the 2.699 in the German market. I own the 24-50/2.8 for my a7iv and love it for its size and weight but it's hard to decide for me. The 16-35 GMii seems to be a possible every day lens for city trips in Europe or in cities like NYC combined with the 24-50 in my bag
what is the GM V2 better at compared to this (apart from 35mm reach)
The GM is still a bit cleaner on the sharpness from corner to corner and has less vignetting and much less distortion.
Great video!🙏😊👌 Would love to see a comparison to the 20mm 1.8, seems like that lense is the parent of these G compact series. I've owned it for a few years now and can vouch, the G series quality is very close to the GM one. 👀🔥🔥
That’s such a great point! Funny enough, that lens was the first one that I used this format (with the kind of hiking video example segment) on! So it’s all come full circle!
Would you recommend this or a Sigma 18-50 for a A6700? I’m about to get the A6700.
I am curious if next time, for example, there will be a 50-100mm.f.2.8 lens in the same size as the first two in the series?
I keep wondering that too!
I would guess 50-85
I know not every Sony lens is at least 'G', but so many of them are nowadays, and the inclusion of the aperture ring is the primary reason I would ever consider one over a 3rd party option. Many of the 3rd party options just don't have this feature, except for Sigma. I started my photography journey on manual lenses and it can be hard to *enjoy* using an autofocus lens without this feature.
I hear you! Thanks for sharing!
I think I'd prefer the 1635 PZ F4, but it's very close. I already have a 24mm GM but I'm looking for a bit more zoom and the more I shoot, the less I use apertures below F/4. Many of my shots are at F/8. I love to put lots of detail in my shots, showing both the subject and its environment, and printing these to put on my wall.
Thanks a lot for this review Dunna! Still the price is the only factor that throws me off but I understand that if you want the quality that this lens can give, you gotta bring the full wallet with you. So far, I am happy of my kit lens:
Sigma 16mm f1.4 for crop sensors (so it becomes a 24mm both on my Sony A7iii and A7siii) and every other focal length is covered by the Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 which I absolutely love (although I wish it weighed less) as it has the quality of a Sony G-Master. For portraits, I still own a Sony 85mm f1.8, which is a little gem in my opinion for its overall look/compactness/affordable price but the Tamron covers that focal lengths so well that lately, I am considering selling it and use those bucks on an extra wide lens. Probably one of the 3 Sony released a while ago, like the 11mm f1.8 (which would effectively be a 16.5mm on my full frame cameras). I tried the latter on a recent shooting and it performed very well. Finally, the honourable mention goes to my beloved Helios 44-M 58mm F2 vintage lens, which gives me the most interesting and most juicy image of them all, as it's famous for its beautiful bokeh.
Sounds like a pretty great kit you’ve got! I definitely hear you about the price on this one. While it’s “affordable” in the grand scheme of how expensive lenses can get… it’s still a good chunk of change!
@dunnadidit yes, it's understandable that Sony makes you pay more than the competitors as their lens is a native one. Probably a good move would be waiting a year or so and find a second hand one for 25% less (like 900/950 bucks) and then selling both my Sigma 16mm f1.4 and Sony 85mm f1.8 to get a few hundred bucks back. Is that a good plan? If you see any flaws in it, please let me know as your opinion is very appreciated:)
P.s. I incredibly forgot to mention the most used lens in my kit, which is the Sony 35mm f1.8. Selling that one too, along with the other two, would make me cover the entire investment for the Sony 16-25. I doubt I'll sell it though, because it's so easy to carry and reliable and I can't imagine myself bringing that 1.2kg Tamron beast on run and gun shootings where a simple 35mm is required :)
Happy with 16-35 PZ / f4. all internal zoom. good for the gimbal.
Sick! Glad to hear it!
Great video thanks. If you compare only at 18mm vs the zeiss batis 18mm. What would you take?
I own Sigma 16-28mm f2.8 and it performs "very" well on my A7CR. Although watching your review made me want to switch to this new Sony lens, I just can't justify selling the Sigma that works very well for me and spend more money just to get the Sony lens that deliver virtually the same performance as the Sigma in my opinion. So, I'm gonna pass on this new lens.
Great video. The outdoors clip is nice.
BTW, couple of typos in your video at 5:25 and 6:15, Tamron is 17-28, not 16-28. 🙂
Yeah if you’ve already got the sigma and you can live with the focus breathing… there’s no real need to get this lens for sure!
Ugh thanks for the heads up, I was so careful not to SAY 16-28 when talking about the Tamron and then I went and typed it in 🤦🏻♂️
Like the out takes! And, I’m also considering a prime wide angle as the 9mm of zoom seems kinda superfluous
I just bought the 16-35 GMii a week ago and love the lens but the fact that this is smaller and "pretty close" to the quality of the GMii makes me want to return the GMii. As a 16-35GMii owner would you sale your GM and get this lens for a lighter set up? I vlog and also shoot some brand videos on my FX3. Been also looking at a ZEV1
I LOVE my GMii so I definitely wouldn’t sell it for this. But it just depends on how important that size/weight is for you. My opinion would be to hold onto the GMii if you can afford to.
Love every video you do.
I appreciate that so much!
great job! did you use any nd filters with that lens? i've tried several and they all destroy the image at 16mm.
Did you add reverb to the 416 recorder? And it so, why.. on earbuds it sounds a bit like a toilet reverb. I know for sure it’s not the 416 as I’ve used this mic since 1998 and always sounds dry and clean.
No reverb added… just some eq and compression Sounds clean on my end 🤷🏻♂️ a bit different than it normally sounds because of how close I’m holding it but I was feeling pretty good about how it turned out 🤷🏻♂️
@@dunnadidityeah no worries, just checked on tannoy speakers and other headphone and it’s fine. Must be some processing my earbuds do. I hate autocorrecting tv’s earbuds and speakers.. it always messes up good stuff and only slightly fixes bad stuff 😊
100% I turn off all that stuff if I can! I don’t need my audio to be spacial! I want to hear it how the mixer intended!
Great video! What about this vs the 16-35mm f4 pz?
Please review Sennheiser Ew DP SKP 32 bit on board Recording Sample
This whole video was the 32 bit float onboard recorded audio if that helps!
Literally have the Sigma 16-28 in my cart for an upcoming shoot as I watch this. lol Trying to see if there's a reason to go with the Sony over the Sigma.
Haha good timing! I wish I had the 16-28 to go side by side for this video
When does it come out ?
Tentatively shipping May 10th!
I want to see a review of a sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 vs the new 16-25mm f2.8 .
Oooh! That would be fun!
Opinion on this 16-25mm F2.8 vs the Sigma 14-24mm, seems like this one will be sloghtly sharper and faster but the extra range on the sigma will make it more versatile.
now that the price is similar to the G-MASTER 1 which one would you choose?
the angle in 3:05 was crazy
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
how do you resolve the barrel distortion in video? can you see it in your footage?
There’s a setting in the camera that applies an automatic distortion correction and some kind of profile built into the electronics of the lens. Generally I think most people just always leave it on auto and I recommend that!
@@dunnadidit thank you
@strippedlist my pleasure!
I just bought a Tamron 17 to 28 for $550. Is it worth returning it to get this?
Love your videos and how you're always outdoors. As a cyclist/hiker myself, I prefer to see a lens out in the wild than in a studio with artificial lighting. Do you shoot your videos with natural light, or do you also bring lighting with you?
It doesn't use the XD linear motors like the GM lenses/20mm G, just something to note.
You’re absolutely correct! Just dual linear motors but not the XD ones.
Thanks so much for the kind words about the style of content, all of it is just natural lighting… usually at a fairly unfortunate time of day in terms of where the sun is haha. The video is shot in SLOG3 and color graded if that helps give you an idea of the pipeline!
This and the 24-50, would be great for traveling.
100%
Agreed. But I'm also quite happy with my Sigma 16-28 and 28-70. They are great lenses, too. And cheaper 🙂
I think you need quantify how much better it is than the tamron? Is worth twice the money?
It doesn’t cost twice the money of the Tamron as far as I’m aware. Tamron is $900 and this lens is $1200. The quantification of why I think it’s worth it comes down to the increase in image quality, mostly in corner sharpness and in chromatic aberration, but more importantly than that, the Sony handles focus breathing way better. Also, on Sony cameras, the autofocus is better, and high speed burst shooting, certain types of stabilization and lens breathing compensation only work with Sony lenses. So you’re gaining other user experience features as well.
So long story… but was watching someone else’s review on the TH-cam app on my tv and I went to post this comment towards the end of their video when I guess yours started to autoplay. So comment was directed at someone 😅😂 but appreciate your reply all the same
Haha that’s actually really funny. I was like “well, I definitely touched on it but I suppose I can expand on my thoughts lol” 😂
Thanks for watching!
Hello from France . great review ! i love your style. have you ever test this lens for astro photography ? Have a good week-end.
Hey there! Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately I haven’t had a chance to shoot any Astro with it, but based on other results and specs, I feel like this would be really solid!
Please compare this lens vs sony 20 G, thankyou
nice! man, what lens are you using on the talking head last part?
That’s the 35mm f1.4 GM for all the talking head bits.
@@dunnadidit bokeh is very pleasing. I have the 35 1.8. nice and small and IQ isn't bad.
I used that one for a couple years! Really love it!
Sigma 16-28 is a better option IMO and covers the ranges needed for environmental portrait, real estate, urban wide portraits and landscape. There is no need for many fps for photos at that wide range. Optically they are all great but for the price, I won't for for its zoom range limitations.
I go with Tamron. I paid $400 for my 17-28mm like new lens, thank you.
That’s a smoking deal! Nice catch!
Its like they made this lens for peiple switching from apsc to FF and who have the Sony 10-18 or something similar.
Hmm… would it be wise to get rid of my 20mm f/1.8 and get this lens?
12:47 got a real LOL from me xD love that
Help me decide which one to choose:
Buy Sigma 16-28mm f2.8 or Sony 16-25 f2.8 ???
Sony
my actual set count a7Cii + 12-24GM f2.8 + 24-50 f2.8 for my use is better 12-24 but clearly the "tiny set" 16-25+24-50 born to offer compact, 67mm filter lenses with relatively affordable price since the 16-25GM and 12-24GM are really expensive lens. If you do not care abount f2.8 then the 16-35 f4 are really a top option as said in the video, for the rest of lenses i do not take in consideration: every non-original lens lose to many function to be take in consideratione... for example the autofocus frame rate in video are limited to 15fps with compatible lenses... etc...
Jesus.. the quality is insane
Saw the 24-50 G and was interested. Wasn’t for me be I really liked what they were trying to do with the size, weight, performance and price. Just didn’t fill a hole in my kit.
When this lens was announced, it was basically an instant purchase. My 24-70 GM (1 and now mark 2) has been my workhorse lens for years at this point. I’ve always loved the 16-35 but it just never got enough use to keep it in my kit and taking up space. So far, I’ve been insanely pleased with how it stacks up optically. I don’t really use it like a zoom though, I tend to treat it like dual primes - a 16mm and a 24mm (or I guess 25mm).
This won’t be for everyone, but it’s been a really inspiring and helpful addition to my kit. That close focusing at 16mm is a really cool new look for me as a creator.
Great video thanks a lot also dude what's the song called have a great day
I love the colors on this video!
As far as the lens review, I would have loved to see more hand held vlog style (no slow mo) to see how effective the IBIS is. Because as we know, Sony lenses works better with Sony IBIS. Thanks!
Well, if it’s any consolation, I shot ZERO slow motion in the example video. So all of the little handheld shots of the forest and the moss and such was just the stabilization of the a7cii
@@dunnadidit phenomenal. I actually thought "those are smooth, did he bring a mini gimbal in the forest or what?" :)
Yeah, I agree with the colours. They reminded me a little bit of the blueish greens used by Aidin Robbins, that I adore!
the feastibles ad goes crazy
Haha hey @mrbeast, you hear that!? Need some hiking content to sell your chocolate bars?
love your vdo , clear for get one.
Excuse me sir, you can't just tease us with a little bit of beatboxing... we need more!
😂😂😂 someone made it to the deep end!
Questionable option.
Nice to have compact 2.8 WA lens but zoom range is narrow.
16 mm looks geometrically weak - distortion and stretched sides.
In this I'd prefer 20 1.8 G.
Also new WA addition to G compact primes line-up would be really welcome - 16/17/18 mm 2.8 is a wish!
IMO the 16-35 G is the best of the group.
What song?
Ballad of mockingbird
It took me so long to find it bro 😭
Generally I don't like buying lenses that is not optically correct and camera digitally correct it based on lens profile. Like why am I paying so much. Yeahs it's compact and cool, probably same concept as anamorphic and desqueezing. I know it's very petty, but for the price they are charging, I expect it to be optically good, then finesse all the minor flaws in post.
Why did I have to go and buy the 16-35mm F4 G :(
Cause it’s a great lens and it worked for you at hehe time! No buyers remorse necessary!
I was going to buy the 24-50 f2.8 when it came out. I Changed my mind
How come?
32-bit float recordings are absolutely useless unless you're recording extraordinarily loud sounds with microphones than can actually use that dynamic range. Please do not use 32-bit float if you record talking head or footage like this. The 'quality' increase is just wastefulness on your hard drives.
As a person who has been an audio professional for 15+ years now, I respectfully disagree.
32-Bit float is incredibly helpful, especially when paired with a good microphone. It’s not the miracle that some TH-camrs claim it is, but that floating point is absolutely useful especially in dynamic recording situations. It doesn’t erase room noise, or correct for awful mic awareness, but it’s definitely not absolutely useless (unless it’s paired with a terrible mic with a low max spl)
What lens did you use to shoot the outside portion of this video
Assuming you’re talking about all the talking bits… that would be the 35mm f1.4 GM lens!
@@dunnadidit thank you so much!! Looks amazing
I want to sell my Tamron now lol
The quanlity is better than GM1 but under GM2. So for those who are thinking about this will same as GM2, you think too much.
14:50 🤣🤍
Haha welcome to the deep end. Where folks rarely make it.
Wait I thought it was Tamron 17-28
What do you mean?
@@dunnadidit Midway through the video, you had written out the focal length range of the Tamron zoom lens as 16-28, but it's 17-28. Hardly a problem, people can figure it out :)
Oh damnit! I was so careful to say 17 the whole time and then went and typed in 16 🤦🏻♂️ haha glad to hear you think it’s easy enough to sort out
@@dunnadidit that’s okay brother. Now we know you are also a fellow human. 👋
@IwasKiddinggg haha wait… was that something people have been questioning? 😂😂😂 😅😅😅
Are you sponsored by Feastables?
I wish. Mr. Beast… hit me up!
What a stupid focal length... Seriously.. 16mm perfect for landscapes... 24? what use does 24 have when you already have 16..no good for close up portraits, 16-50mm would have made sense.