I chose methanol injection and 93 octane. There is no dependable e85 near me. But i have run e85. Once i found out the variables of e85 i went methanol. Much simpler and you know what your getting everytime.
So for future reference I can do E85 and then 93 together? Or use both of them of which is available to me while riding? And another thing, what do I put in the AEM kit? Is it a certain fluid I put in there while I’m running either gasoline?
AWESOME educational video!!! I learned so much, and helped me solidify my decision to plan a water-methanol system instead of the E50-E85, also because I live in Canada's west coast, there are few fuelling stations with E85. Thanks again!
You only use W/M when you're on boost vs e85 at all times. You must have a flex fuel kit installed where there's no e85 around or planning to travel or you're stuck. Also is corrosive so you must use "special" injection systems to be compatible and so you gotta buy other parts to support the set up whereas W/M don't, as it's being sprayed from a reservoir not the gas tank. E85 gives lots of fuel issues compared to W/M plus e85 sucks in the winter. W/M is the way to go, I'm getting a kit for the summer, more convenient, less expensive and meant for daily driving.
@@resuwrecked not yet. I have had a few life hiccups lately. Hopefully by next weekend I’ll have it finished. I’ll comment back on here when I do and you can go watch the video I’ll be posting about it.
@@StelaPop I finished the install back in February. I ran 3 gallons of water meth. I was satisfied with the results. Are used the 87 water meth tune that my tuner provided. But in March I had a hand accident at work and put me out of work for two weeks and then spent 12 weeks for therapy. Then I got real busy at work. And I never had a chance to upload a video about the install. But, I need to make time to do that.
I have a 98 S366 supra 6spd. Been contemplating which route: E85 or Meth/Water injection. I have two E85 stations near me. My goal is about 650HP. The shop I have in mind estimates about $6500 to fully convert my car to E85 w/ flex fuel (parts and labor). I already have a HKS Vpro, 1000cc injectors, walbro 450 ready to be installed. I just need to purchase a quality meth kit (have the snow performance stage 3 in mind). Other mods I have are Tomei 264 cams, HKS DLI, and the usual bolt ons. What do you recommend? Been in this scene since 2004 and I've heard so many horror stories on meth kits failing...but with technology now, surely fail-safes have improved a lot better? Liked and subscribed!
I'd go E85 if you have access to it and since you're going to setup flex fuel you won't have to really worry about mixing regular gas with the E85 since if it's setup right the fuel map and boost levels should all adjust accordingly. With an S366, 1000ccs and E85 you should have no problem hitting 650. E85 will help spool up some as well since your exhaust volume will be higher. From what I've seen the new meth kits are more reliable than the earlier kits.
I’m currently running E85+ on my car but still seeing higher levels of heat in the engine causing my electric fans to constantly stay on and sometimes my coolant temp’s are very high. Is it possible to run both E85 and water meth to keep the engine temperature down during boost?
For any kind of forced induction you should be intercooling the hot charged air. MeOh injection is a way to run more of that cooled charge air (boost) and mitigate the harmful effects of knock/pre-detonation. So the intercooler and MeOh injection serve two different functions.
is flex fuel the same as e-85? Royal Farms has what they call Flex Fuel 104 I assume 104 is the octane rating which is about what e-85 is supposed to have (105) but I'm not sure I can assume the actual ethanol content. I'm running a full bolt ons Stage 2 Plus 2015 BMW 335i and am thinking about doing a meth kit too, already have the connector on my VRSF charge pipe so I'm set up for it. I do hear that the best set up for my car is running 50/50 meth/water and on a E-20 map if I'm on a stock fuel system. I assume I would need a custom map to really get the benefits of meth though, what do you think?
flex fuel means ur computer has a flex fuel sensor that can read and analize either e85 or any other octane ur using. 104 octane is GAS not ETHANOL. ur confused bro. E85 is not 104 gas octane although it equals about 105 octance it is NOT GAS ITS ETHANOL. theyre different fuels. u can run 50/50 but plenty run straight M1 which is methanol
@@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK negative, I not only confirmed with them that it's ethanol I've tested it now 3 times myself and it's exactly 83% ethanol as they said for the summer blend (76% they claim for the winter blend)
@@chrisgarret3285 Are u drunk dude? Du u have any idea what flex fuel is? U seem utterly clueless. Flex fuel is not E85. E85 is an ethanol based fuel and can be used if ur car accepts flex fuel or not. Get a clue dude smfh. I use E85 and I dont have flex fuel. I cant run 93 octane cause I dont have a flex fuel sensor. This isnt rocket science bro. Flex fuel means u can run both Ethanol and gas.
@@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK the fuck are you talking about? Ethanol is not ethanol? I just told you it's testing 83% ethanol with an ethanol test kit. Literally called flex fuel. Looks like it's rocket science to some...
Why does my Toyota hilux sr5 5vzfe engine run better when mixed with standard unleaded mixed with E85 even tho burns quicker but it revs harder and it pulls harder? Just wondering?
If your fuel system cannot handle delivering high ethanol content fuel, you can supplement Methanol to get the performance gains you are looking to achieve. Typically, only one is used but both can be combined.
Can Water Methanol Be Used To Run More Boost / HP On Same Ring Gap? I Got A 5.7 Hemi With Stock Ring Gap And It's Making 450AWHP With Zero Knock And Only Has 11 Degrees Of Total Timing In It. I Got Enough Fuel System For More But No Idea How Close The Rings Are To Kissing. Would Water Methanol Effective Allow Me To Make More HP With Same Ring Gap? Lol Sounds Weird This Way.
I got an alignment recently. They didn't and didn't hook up a ground wire and it caused the meth to flood the motor and ruined the entire motor. Done with methanol now. This was controlled by JB4 with all the failsafes too... smh.
Terry Gambler You skipped the solenoid www.snowperformance.net/snow-performance-high-flow-water-methanol-solenoid-upgrade-quick-connect-fittings-sno-40060.asp
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I chose methanol injection and 93 octane. There is no dependable e85 near me. But i have run e85. Once i found out the variables of e85 i went methanol. Much simpler and you know what your getting everytime.
Just brew your own alcohol lol
Any idea which one made more power?
So for future reference I can do E85 and then 93 together? Or use both of them of which is available to me while riding? And another thing, what do I put in the AEM kit? Is it a certain fluid I put in there while I’m running either gasoline?
@@lt-prezz-unoh6520yes you can mix I run e30 in my civic
@@Candybuiltsi does it make your car run smoothly?
AWESOME educational video!!! I learned so much, and helped me solidify my decision to plan a water-methanol system instead of the E50-E85, also because I live in Canada's west coast, there are few fuelling stations with E85. Thanks again!
I went from 310kw to 413kw by using E85, works very well, but upgrades had to be made.
You only use W/M when you're on boost vs e85 at all times.
You must have a flex fuel kit installed where there's no e85 around or planning to travel or you're stuck. Also is corrosive so you must use "special" injection systems to be compatible and so you gotta buy other parts to support the set up whereas W/M don't, as it's being sprayed from a reservoir not the gas tank.
E85 gives lots of fuel issues compared to W/M plus e85 sucks in the winter.
W/M is the way to go, I'm getting a kit for the summer, more convenient, less expensive and meant for daily driving.
I got 2 cars on it without issues.
Missing a few points, methanol is corrosive and does also attract water just like E-85. I'm going to be running both for the best of both worlds.
I learned a lot I don't know much about but I love it when I put it in my Tahoe and it's $1.99 a gallon
If it's available in your area there really no reason not to use it. Cheap and you can run a ton of boost on it!
U can't juss run e85 in anything right
I am in the process of installing a Snow Perf water/meth 2.5 kit on my ‘20 F150 3.5EB. Can’t wait to see how it improves my et’s.
Do you have it up and running? I have a Flex Ecoboost with the same engine and have wanted to install a system
@@resuwrecked not yet. I have had a few life hiccups lately. Hopefully by next weekend I’ll have it finished. I’ll comment back on here when I do and you can go watch the video I’ll be posting about it.
@@keepnitsharp Any updates to your install and use after installation?
@@StelaPop I finished the install back in February. I ran 3 gallons of water meth. I was satisfied with the results. Are used the 87 water meth tune that my tuner provided. But in March I had a hand accident at work and put me out of work for two weeks and then spent 12 weeks for therapy. Then I got real busy at work. And I never had a chance to upload a video about the install. But, I need to make time to do that.
Sorry to hear of your injury and time off. Glad you are back at it.
I have a 98 S366 supra 6spd. Been contemplating which route: E85 or Meth/Water injection. I have two E85 stations near me. My goal is about 650HP. The shop I have in mind estimates about $6500 to fully convert my car to E85 w/ flex fuel (parts and labor). I already have a HKS Vpro, 1000cc injectors, walbro 450 ready to be installed. I just need to purchase a quality meth kit (have the snow performance stage 3 in mind). Other mods I have are Tomei 264 cams, HKS DLI, and the usual bolt ons. What do you recommend? Been in this scene since 2004 and I've heard so many horror stories on meth kits failing...but with technology now, surely fail-safes have improved a lot better?
Liked and subscribed!
I'd go E85 if you have access to it and since you're going to setup flex fuel you won't have to really worry about mixing regular gas with the E85 since if it's setup right the fuel map and boost levels should all adjust accordingly. With an S366, 1000ccs and E85 you should have no problem hitting 650. E85 will help spool up some as well since your exhaust volume will be higher.
From what I've seen the new meth kits are more reliable than the earlier kits.
Only go e if your going with A flex fuel besides that don't fuck with it.
Can you run methInjection On a stock sport vehicle
So can use e85 and meth together?
yes this is pretty common these days on big power cars
The gold question
weird, I don't really see the benefit.
@@learysinsight5796 temps
Yes plenty use meth to cool the IAT temps and are NOT using it as fuel.
I’m currently running E85+ on my car but still seeing higher levels of heat in the engine causing my electric fans to constantly stay on and sometimes my coolant temp’s are very high. Is it possible to run both E85 and water meth to keep the engine temperature down during boost?
So I get a meth injection kit I would be able to pump E85 safely ?
Imagine runing meth kit, E85 and nitrous express direct line. ☠️
I see you like to party.
You forgot using pure oxygen
This is definitely possible
Intercooler or MeOH water injection? What is better? Intercooler works all the time, Methanol water needs careful tuning , correct?
For any kind of forced induction you should be intercooling the hot charged air. MeOh injection is a way to run more of that cooled charge air (boost) and mitigate the harmful effects of knock/pre-detonation. So the intercooler and MeOh injection serve two different functions.
is flex fuel the same as e-85? Royal Farms has what they call Flex Fuel 104 I assume 104 is the octane rating which is about what e-85 is supposed to have (105) but I'm not sure I can assume the actual ethanol content. I'm running a full bolt ons Stage 2 Plus 2015 BMW 335i and am thinking about doing a meth kit too, already have the connector on my VRSF charge pipe so I'm set up for it. I do hear that the best set up for my car is running 50/50 meth/water and on a E-20 map if I'm on a stock fuel system. I assume I would need a custom map to really get the benefits of meth though, what do you think?
flex fuel means ur computer has a flex fuel sensor that can read and analize either e85 or any other octane ur using. 104 octane is GAS not ETHANOL. ur confused bro. E85 is not 104 gas octane although it equals about 105 octance it is NOT GAS ITS ETHANOL. theyre different fuels. u can run 50/50 but plenty run straight M1 which is methanol
@@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK negative, I not only confirmed with them that it's ethanol I've tested it now 3 times myself and it's exactly 83% ethanol as they said for the summer blend (76% they claim for the winter blend)
@@chrisgarret3285 Are u drunk dude? Du u have any idea what flex fuel is? U seem utterly clueless. Flex fuel is not E85. E85 is an ethanol based fuel and can be used if ur car accepts flex fuel or not. Get a clue dude smfh. I use E85 and I dont have flex fuel. I cant run 93 octane cause I dont have a flex fuel sensor. This isnt rocket science bro. Flex fuel means u can run both Ethanol and gas.
@@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK the fuck are you talking about? Ethanol is not ethanol? I just told you it's testing 83% ethanol with an ethanol test kit. Literally called flex fuel. Looks like it's rocket science to some...
Any proven e85 additives out there?
Why does my Toyota hilux sr5 5vzfe engine run better when mixed with standard unleaded mixed with E85 even tho burns quicker but it revs harder and it pulls harder? Just wondering?
Sounds like you have water in your system that the Ethanol is helping to burn out.
@@Luckingsworth I've done a compression test. Cylinder leak down test! And all good!!!!! It's been a strange issue for awhile now! Cheers anyway!🙂
What if you want to run both E85 and Meth? Any issues with that?
If your fuel system cannot handle delivering high ethanol content fuel, you can supplement Methanol to get the performance gains you are looking to achieve. Typically, only one is used but both can be combined.
@@TunerTestDrive do you have a email that I can send you pictures so I can see the meaning of using this version for future reference?
What's your thoughts on nitrous? I got a 6th gen camaro
Can Water Methanol Be Used To Run More Boost / HP On Same Ring Gap? I Got A 5.7 Hemi With Stock Ring Gap And It's Making 450AWHP With Zero Knock And Only Has 11 Degrees Of Total Timing In It. I Got Enough Fuel System For More But No Idea How Close The Rings Are To Kissing. Would Water Methanol Effective Allow Me To Make More HP With Same Ring Gap? Lol Sounds Weird This Way.
I’m running 13 psi stock everything only thing touched is cam I’m using water meth as well
11 degrees is super safe. I would still drop the crank and check it.
Ordinary fuel + E85 injection will be fun
I thought this was peter parker getting me hip to mo' powa'!
E85 is awesome.
Can you run both
justyn daley hope he replies
i believe yes you can. running both results in even more power.
daniel zychniewicz thanks man going to run both on my f32
E85 is not new to the scene 😂🤦🏼♂️ it’s been around since 1920
Mr 750li think he was referring to the performance use in the car scene.. not creation
Not at the pump it hasn't. Alcohol isn't a new fuel, but it's definitely recent in terms of performance racing fuel.
no snowflake it hasnt for high hp cars. its been around and popular for about 10-15 years now
Aargh, you should mention in the title that this is for gasoline, NOT DIESEL. Thanks.
I am running both lmao 😂
Would be a great video if you didn't have that annoying music drowning out what you're saying.
E85 is dog shit meth hands down all day.
I got an alignment recently. They didn't and didn't hook up a ground wire and it caused the meth to flood the motor and ruined the entire motor. Done with methanol now. This was controlled by JB4 with all the failsafes too... smh.
Why were they fiddling with any grpund wires or anything related to your meth kit when you were there for an alignment?
Frankie Lopez 9 months later, now I’m also highly confused lol
Terry Gambler You skipped the solenoid
www.snowperformance.net/snow-performance-high-flow-water-methanol-solenoid-upgrade-quick-connect-fittings-sno-40060.asp
This is a case of poor work
@Terry Gambler was this with the solenoid? They claim the solenoid protects from methanol leaks.