I reckon card shows will be about for awhile either way. I do think it will kill the marker for cheap EX/V cards, as you average person won't want to pay initially more than double the value for a £1 card. I agree with the 4% not being much in comparison to what sellers had to pay beforehand. But, for buyers who were not aware of eBay's fees beforehand may be put off by this change. Either way, multi card purchases from the same vendor will be the way forward to save money 👍🏽
@@Hustlémon but that £1 V, will come up as £1.79 card in the search results, so when the buyer sorts by price, the private seller's listing will not only be waayyy at the bottom under the business seller ones, it will also be "marked up" (by ebay) uncompetitively :(
@@02danhaz Yeah, it was obvious it was coming in, they were just updating their services and systems. It was clever, whilst they did that they Heavily advertised across TVs, Social Media, etc. There was an eBay advert everywhere to promote their free selling services, got to admit it was clever marketing and strategy 👍🏽
@@PrT0xic It didn't make a difference for business sellers, still had to pay fees. But, I did manage to sell unwanted stuff and some Poke cards as a private seller as well, which was helpful 🙂
The key point for sellers is that they won't pay out till the item is confirmed delivered. To do this cards will have to be sent by tracked post rather than just second class taking postage costs for a single card from £0.85 to £2.70. There is also the several day delay in getting your money as well. This is not going to be good for the single card market.
100% not going to be great for cheap single card market. I imagine most people will adapt to sell a bundle of 5/6 cheap cards in a single listing to entice buyers. But, it does mean more admin work sellers who have to be create with their advertising and pictures. I will personally start with a bundle of cheap EX's listing cards in sets or Pokémon types, like fire, water, etc.
and when you pick cards from the same seller they automatically go through to one order instead of paying separately for post like eBay, user experience is not even close
Yeah, I don't even know what debit provider charges 75p. Think it's likely an international card. My Shopify store charges me a flat fee of 15p and that covers a huge range of debit/credit cards as well 😶
@@Jaycox420 It's the 2nd biggest e-commerce marketplace. So for many people including myself, it's difficult to avoid eBay, especially as a business, given the traffic it has. Amazon does not enable private sellers to list items, you have to be a business, so for many eBay is place to go. Although competition like Vinted, FB Marketplace, etc are crawling in some good traffic as well 🙂
Sell on fanatics collect there is no seller fees. Buyer pays fees and the seller and buyer is happy. As a seller you will make alot more over that junk site called ebay. Ofc it's for slabs not necessarily singles.
@@Delirium420 Cheers for letting me know. I have others from the USA complaining that we had it much easier, but, have pointed out several key differences. I imagine in the USA a business they would also need to pay taxes on top of their profits, but, wondering if Ebay's fees can be used as an operation cost, because in the UK it can 👍🏽
I just hope they dont start holding the money like vinted. Vinted has no protection for sellers. Buyers can blag anything and they just keep your money
ebay is the same, ALWAYS take a video of packaging your cards, from sticking the label on to throwing the card in and sealing the glue strip with a 360 of the envelope. keeping all the post office drop off receipts as well (or video of you throwing the envelope in the RM box down the road) had a buyer open a claim it hasn't arrived, i had the RM receipt that i showed ebay and they sided with me, then the buyer (same one) claimed, well it did arrive but there was nothing inside. i showed ebay support the video of me packaging the order, and they basically told the buyer to get lost 😅 if i didn't have any of that proof i'd be £7 out of pocket on this one scammer buyer
@@SweatDogg30 I will be honest, fortunately I not had an issue with Vinted so far, however, I was going to make a video on a help guide on buying Pokémon on Vinted, because it's not as well polished as eBay. eBay's card grading system really does help take the edge 👍🏽
@@joshpkmn Essentially yes, but, in terms of making money from us, I cover the point on the 2nd topic. There is a possibility that some private sellers, maybe, those who know the system before all the new recent changes might adjust their prices accordingly to accommodate these changes and would understand the 'seller fee' is now replaced with the 'buyer fee' 👍🏽 However, I strongly believe eBay will profit much better with this system, putting on my thinking hat 🎩 they would use this 'buyers protection fee' as a tax write off, and describe it as an 'operation cost' rather than a income.
@@Hustlémon Yes, I agree. My use of 'us' was for both the seller and buyer. Either way the lovely people at ebay get something. I don't think it will prevent me from buying on ebay though!
@@joshpkmn Ah cheers for clearing that up. Same as myself, it's not going to stop me using them, but, I do hope they do offer buyers discount fee on certain occasions. I didn't touch on this part on my video, but, I remembered after recording eBay has a new payment system called 'ebay balance' and in fact, also has there very own electronic payment services, so that makes me question 75p flat fee even more 🤔
i buy and sell on ebay instead of vinted for this exact reason. only this reason. i guess ebay doesn't want our custom anymore as this makes ebay uncompetitive and frankly, worse, than vinted. what will happen is. 1. every cheap cards seller will migrate to vinted 2. ebay will be FLOODED with support messages of the "where me money?" kind. no one's shipping a £2 card tracked, no one's buying a £2 card with tracked sipping, 85p 2nd class is the norm. and no buyer is gonna spend the time leaving feedback on every single cheap card they get, to confirm delivery of untracked
@@alexnicolaou3579 I agree, I only buy on vinted if it is a 'bigger' card for cheaper than ebay or if the seller has a load of cards that I want. Ebay is my go to for cheaper singles.
@@DizZzyPullz_TCG It's much cheaper to get Pokémon cards in the USA in comparison to the UK. We have to pay more for packs and products on average, let alone the fact that the average American has more disposable income than their UK counterparts. Also it's not BS, it's relevant news to people in the UK who use eBay. So why is it much worse in the US?
my brother in christ... you have TCG Player. the closest thing we have to that is Cardmarket and it's a right mess of international sellers and high fees. 99% of the listings don't even have a photo of the bloody card
Its because ebay taxes like 20 percent i sold a evolving skies box on there for 625 and only got 450 after taxes then i month later i bought more boxew for 650 lol 😆 selling on ebay is badd
@@Exposedpokeymon Are you based in the UK? Because eBay has never charged 20% fees to sellers, both private and businsss sellers 👀 The max charge they have ever implied is 12.8%+30p to private sellers.
@@johnstelling1031 I think you missed the point on this video. It doesn't impact myself, but, the consumers who use eBay to buy cheap stuff, not just TCG products. I as a business seller have always been subjected to fees, this new process is for 'private sellers'.
Make us pay 50/50 if they can swing 100 both ways 😂 as a seller now I can’t sell cards lower price under £5 now because they will not have interest having to pay almost 20%
@@JamesDinis-s2k Yes, it will definitely have a impact on selling EX/V and some cheap IRs singles on the market, I think they will take the biggest impact. I imagine most sellers will adapt to offer a 'bundle order' on these cards, like a mixture of 5 of these cheap cards to compensate for this.
this will keep card shows alive which is awesome, 4% is nothing much really if you compare it to the 13% seller fee ebay had previously
I reckon card shows will be about for awhile either way. I do think it will kill the marker for cheap EX/V cards, as you average person won't want to pay initially more than double the value for a £1 card. I agree with the 4% not being much in comparison to what sellers had to pay beforehand. But, for buyers who were not aware of eBay's fees beforehand may be put off by this change. Either way, multi card purchases from the same vendor will be the way forward to save money 👍🏽
@@Hustlémon but that £1 V, will come up as £1.79 card in the search results, so when the buyer sorts by price, the private seller's listing will not only be waayyy at the bottom under the business seller ones, it will also be "marked up" (by ebay) uncompetitively :(
Thanks for sharing this info I had no idea this was going down !
I knew it was too good to be true when they removed selling fees. They were obviously switching towards vinteds model
@@02danhaz Yeah, it was obvious it was coming in, they were just updating their services and systems. It was clever, whilst they did that they Heavily advertised across TVs, Social Media, etc. There was an eBay advert everywhere to promote their free selling services, got to admit it was clever marketing and strategy 👍🏽
It was nice couple of months while it lasted haha
@@PrT0xic It didn't make a difference for business sellers, still had to pay fees. But, I did manage to sell unwanted stuff and some Poke cards as a private seller as well, which was helpful 🙂
The key point for sellers is that they won't pay out till the item is confirmed delivered. To do this cards will have to be sent by tracked post rather than just second class taking postage costs for a single card from £0.85 to £2.70. There is also the several day delay in getting your money as well. This is not going to be good for the single card market.
100% not going to be great for cheap single card market. I imagine most people will adapt to sell a bundle of 5/6 cheap cards in a single listing to entice buyers. But, it does mean more admin work sellers who have to be create with their advertising and pictures. I will personally start with a bundle of cheap EX's listing cards in sets or Pokémon types, like fire, water, etc.
Cardmarket blows eBay out of the water on user cost once these fees are added
and when you pick cards from the same seller they automatically go through to one order instead of paying separately for post like eBay, user experience is not even close
Between this and not paying out until items are marked as delivered its going to kill cheap singles.
@@matthew-182 Yeah, I could still pick up some cheap IR's atm for £2 on eBay. But, that will be changing unfortunately 😓
"oh you want to buy these 99p reverses? that'll be £2 tracked 48 postage" ☺
When I take card payments on my stall my fees are 2p for every £1 taken, the 75p flat fee is way to much
Yeah, I don't even know what debit provider charges 75p. Think it's likely an international card. My Shopify store charges me a flat fee of 15p and that covers a huge range of debit/credit cards as well 😶
eBay is garbage, I hate their fees. I try my best not to sell there!
@@Jaycox420 It's the 2nd biggest e-commerce marketplace. So for many people including myself, it's difficult to avoid eBay, especially as a business, given the traffic it has. Amazon does not enable private sellers to list items, you have to be a business, so for many eBay is place to go. Although competition like Vinted, FB Marketplace, etc are crawling in some good traffic as well 🙂
Sell on fanatics collect there is no seller fees. Buyer pays fees and the seller and buyer is happy. As a seller you will make alot more over that junk site called ebay. Ofc it's for slabs not necessarily singles.
They stopped American Express on Ebay a while ago
13.25% fee here in USA 🤦♂️not including promotion
@@Delirium420 Cheers for letting me know. I have others from the USA complaining that we had it much easier, but, have pointed out several key differences. I imagine in the USA a business they would also need to pay taxes on top of their profits, but, wondering if Ebay's fees can be used as an operation cost, because in the UK it can 👍🏽
gotta sell more and Top Rated Seller. Easy after that
@infamous159 facts 🙌thanks for commenting but that’s easier said then done!
An imaginary “buyer protection” fee.
@@P.. You have to admit, it's a clever marketing name for 'ebay's fee' 😆
I just hope they dont start holding the money like vinted. Vinted has no protection for sellers. Buyers can blag anything and they just keep your money
ebay is the same,
ALWAYS take a video of packaging your cards, from sticking the label on to throwing the card in and sealing the glue strip with a 360 of the envelope. keeping all the post office drop off receipts as well (or video of you throwing the envelope in the RM box down the road)
had a buyer open a claim it hasn't arrived, i had the RM receipt that i showed ebay and they sided with me, then the buyer (same one) claimed, well it did arrive but there was nothing inside. i showed ebay support the video of me packaging the order, and they basically told the buyer to get lost 😅 if i didn't have any of that proof i'd be £7 out of pocket on this one scammer buyer
Its mercaris fault
Vinted bloody awful 👍 unfortunately had problems with them
@@SweatDogg30 I will be honest, fortunately I not had an issue with Vinted so far, however, I was going to make a video on a help guide on buying Pokémon on Vinted, because it's not as well polished as eBay. eBay's card grading system really does help take the edge 👍🏽
@ yeah it’s when they add on protection fee and inflated postage prices
So it is essentially like Vinted? Another way to make money from us!
@@joshpkmn Essentially yes, but, in terms of making money from us, I cover the point on the 2nd topic. There is a possibility that some private sellers, maybe, those who know the system before all the new recent changes might adjust their prices accordingly to accommodate these changes and would understand the 'seller fee' is now replaced with the 'buyer fee' 👍🏽 However, I strongly believe eBay will profit much better with this system, putting on my thinking hat 🎩 they would use this 'buyers protection fee' as a tax write off, and describe it as an 'operation cost' rather than a income.
@@Hustlémon Yes, I agree. My use of 'us' was for both the seller and buyer. Either way the lovely people at ebay get something. I don't think it will prevent me from buying on ebay though!
@@joshpkmn Ah cheers for clearing that up. Same as myself, it's not going to stop me using them, but, I do hope they do offer buyers discount fee on certain occasions. I didn't touch on this part on my video, but, I remembered after recording eBay has a new payment system called 'ebay balance' and in fact, also has there very own electronic payment services, so that makes me question 75p flat fee even more 🤔
i buy and sell on ebay instead of vinted for this exact reason. only this reason. i guess ebay doesn't want our custom anymore as this makes ebay uncompetitive and frankly, worse, than vinted.
what will happen is.
1. every cheap cards seller will migrate to vinted
2. ebay will be FLOODED with support messages of the "where me money?" kind.
no one's shipping a £2 card tracked, no one's buying a £2 card with tracked sipping, 85p 2nd class is the norm. and no buyer is gonna spend the time leaving feedback on every single cheap card they get, to confirm delivery of untracked
@@alexnicolaou3579 I agree, I only buy on vinted if it is a 'bigger' card for cheaper than ebay or if the seller has a load of cards that I want. Ebay is my go to for cheaper singles.
Bro yall are lucky ta only have that. Stop with tha BS. We've got it so much worst in the US
@@DizZzyPullz_TCG It's much cheaper to get Pokémon cards in the USA in comparison to the UK. We have to pay more for packs and products on average, let alone the fact that the average American has more disposable income than their UK counterparts. Also it's not BS, it's relevant news to people in the UK who use eBay. So why is it much worse in the US?
Much agreed I sold a evolving skies box for 650 only got 430 after fees bro selling on ebay cuts your wealth in thirds
my brother in christ... you have TCG Player.
the closest thing we have to that is Cardmarket and it's a right mess of international sellers and high fees. 99% of the listings don't even have a photo of the bloody card
Its because ebay taxes like 20 percent i sold a evolving skies box on there for 625 and only got 450 after taxes then i month later i bought more boxew for 650 lol 😆 selling on ebay is badd
@@Exposedpokeymon Are you based in the UK? Because eBay has never charged 20% fees to sellers, both private and businsss sellers 👀 The max charge they have ever implied is 12.8%+30p to private sellers.
USA for ebay absolutely stinks. Moved away from them over a year ago and glad I did. Ebay is such a scam
So sell it on the street for 20 ponds it does not hurt me hurts u u might have to get a joblmao
@@johnstelling1031 I think you missed the point on this video. It doesn't impact myself, but, the consumers who use eBay to buy cheap stuff, not just TCG products. I as a business seller have always been subjected to fees, this new process is for 'private sellers'.
Make us pay 50/50 if they can swing 100 both ways 😂 as a seller now I can’t sell cards lower price under £5 now because they will not have interest having to pay almost 20%
@@JamesDinis-s2k Yes, it will definitely have a impact on selling EX/V and some cheap IRs singles on the market, I think they will take the biggest impact. I imagine most sellers will adapt to offer a 'bundle order' on these cards, like a mixture of 5 of these cheap cards to compensate for this.