How is every one feeling about Prismatic? I was way more optimistic a few days ago... EDIT: When reading the last article I mis read it. It's even worse than what I read I apologize I might be dyslexic or something.
Honestly it's just wild. I joined your discord a good while ago and I personally don't feed into the fomo. I get what I can scoop up for long term holding and ive started to swap to japanese for my personal collection of cards I like just for the simple fact my wallet won't be screaming 😂
@@Trntabls231ditto. I love my pages of Japanese ARs that I got for the fraction of the English versions. Not really an investment - it’s more to fufill the collector side of me.
Idk why anyone was optimistic. I got tired of everyone who is a big seller telling everyone not to buy. I’m no dummy. They need inventory lol. “It’s gonna be available on release day” lmao. Sure it is. Just like there’s so much 151 available right? Simple common sense here.
I'm new to collecting pokemon cards. This is ridiculous. I've made peace with the fact that I'm probably never getting this set. On the brightside, I guess this means older sets will be more available now Edit: I was so wrong. Everything shot up. I just wanted some Crown Zenith 😔
I'm new too, but so far I'm finding it's becoming more and more difficult to find the good older sets. Only can find Scarlet Violet base set lately. Not the best or most valuable set.
Lol you’d think. All that has been getting bought since surging sparks release. Todays prices are the lowest prices and only going up for older sets for the next year or so
It will be the other way around. By the end of 2025 they will have reprinted Prismatic at least once if not more. Older sets will be harder and harder to get and only go up. This song and dance has happened before with Celebrations. It was impossible to get for like a year, then they made more and they made more again and then again.
There’s still good stuff you can find online on GameStop & pokecenter. This will be easier to get when people get burnt out on wasting their money on jacked up prices & the reprints start rolling in😂
There’s a common denominator with this current market and the Covid market. Sports card collectors buying pokemon products. They’re back, and they have deeper pockets than most of us Pokémon collectors.
I will add that the scalper craze of 2020 was well, due to scalping of non card collectors, sports card collectors and pokemon collectors alike. On top of Logan Paul and his extremely fake pokemon card "spdcialist" when he opened that base set box. The hype was insane and people were tricked into thinking their old cards from their childhoods were like worth gold. (They werent) So if that's back again I suppose I won't be getting back into cards again once more (I sat out between 2019 and 2022 and sold all the stuff I got between 2022 and 2024 and recently wanted to try again) Sad stuff if the market does reach covid market levels again
Just to clarify something you said at 17:40 "Stores are getting 10-15% less than they requested" but the article says "less than 10-15% of what was requested".... huge difference, not sure if you misspoke or misinterpreted the article but wanted to point that out, thanks for the vid!
I was able to pre-order 2 etbs for 50$. It hasn't been canceled yet, and I'm ripping both. We'll be able to find this stuff for the next 3-4. There is no way these prices keep up for new stuff.
@@jamesjazz3395 maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. I think I'd rather play it safe and keep everything I preordered sealed for the time being. If products become more readily available and prices come down, then I'll consider opening a few things. Right now I have 5 ETBs and a couple of each poster, binder, and sticker collections. Managed to get them all at MSRP luckily.
I appreciate your candidness and vulnerability in the video. Unlike other super hype vids, your sobering take is helpful for us in the community. It feels like we as collectors are seeing our hobby be hijacked.
It’s foolish to pay these absurd prices when the product hasn’t even released yet. The people buying are likely people just trying to scalp and flip like you said or people who are new to the hobby and more susceptible to fomo. This set will be continually released throughout the year, there will be plenty of product available without having to pay several times over msrp. Pokémon has also shown that they have no problem responding to scalping issues like they did with shining fates. Combine that with the general increase in demand and it’s very likely this set will get printed a lot.
Love the positive energy, but I don't think 99% of you will be able to stroll in your walmarts/Target's and find this on the shelves,, ever.. The demand is too high. U have every fan of pokemon ever interested in this set. Not only that, u have every investor, scalper, reseller actively interested. If u are a casual, there's zero chance u will ever even see this on the shelves. Your best bet at finding any would be at Barnes. And only if older grandmother's who don't care about money are stocking on Friday morning. Gl out there and hope everyone is able to find some PE.
@Itwasneveraphasecards yea its insane I guess they said they did have a few break ins prior and so that combined with the hype has made them not sell they are too worried it will make them a bigger target
I really hope Pokémon prints this set into the ground tbh. Probably going to wait out the storm as a result, and buy the singles I want. (I collect Glaceon cards and stuff like this is painful)
We limit to 1 per person for special sets, but also sell at MSRP. We normally get 9 or 10 cases for each product with special sets. This time, we got 1 or 2. It is terrible when I can't even stock enough for my players.
I just got back into collecting mid-November. Most of the bigbox stores near me are basically all sold out of everything. In november, I was able to get whatever set I wanted. Now its gone or overpriced. Ripping is fun especially with friends, but now we just buy singles. I almost regret coming back
I think TPCI knew this set was going to pop off, but it’s even surpassing their expectations. The staggered release schedule was likely designed to spread out demand as other sets release. It may end up like Crown Zenith where people are wondering in 2027 why we’re still getting stuff printed for Prismatic. You’ll be able to get stock at or below MSRP, but it will take time
Yeah they are going to be printing this set for a while most likely. Might make plays for other sets that might not get reprinted now if this takes that spot.
The inflation of pokemon cards is starting to seriously worry me, I went into a store today and even a singular pack of a recent Japanese set was 11$. It’s small, but seriously worrying
I’m glad I’m super close with locals. Pre-ordered late but they sold me 2 ETB’s for me and my wife at retail price. Bless honest honest local hobbies man 🙏
I recently planning to get back into Pokémon card collecting again and thinking to get the Prismatic evolutions elite trainer box. Really sucks that it’s hard for those like me who wanting to get one for a chance to pull their favorites
I will say, I have accounts with all 4 distributors. I have a B&M, 2 distributors are giving us 1 individual ETB, the other other 2 are giving us 6 ETBs each. Thats it, we have spend and history with them. We’ve also have preorder and allocations cancelled after getting our numbers. So idk…
My preorders consist of ; 2 binder collection 6 box cases for 200 per shipped and 6 binder collection box’s from GameStop at retail, now for those who got ETBs at retail “ I tip my hat “ because I regret not preordering those but I do have 4 pc ETBs coming as well as 6 booster bundles and a couple surprise box’s -
@ definitely those are the ONEz , it’s funny because I was holorin at the Walmart vendor a few weeks ago explaining the situation concerning prismatic an how it’s gonna be hard to get and will bring scalpers out of the woodworks who don’t even collect to get strictly to flip, and she’s like will give me your number an Il let you know before I come in to stock ,,
Just got back into the hobby after seeing videos of 151. Sucks that I might not be able to get any prismatic at msrp but gives ne hope of maybe getting 151 and surging sparks at msrp.
I'm guessing ETBs will be $170-$200 by release day, then dip a tiny on release day and run back up. I'm kinda glad now that I got some from buck's at $76.80 each
Have you thought about preordering the team rocket or journey together sets? I've seen some preorders for $160 a booster box and i am tempted to preorder one just to have one confirmed. Forge and Fire has them
Yeah that’s MSRP. To be honest that might be the play at this point. However, you should in theory be able to get booster boxes from Pokemon center for MSRP worse case. They usually sell out slower but you never know in this
Are merchants receiving less than 15% of what they ordered? Or they’re receiving 15% less than what was ordered? Or does it just depend on the merchant
15% of their total order. However, their orders for this set are WAY higher than the other sets (for the most part). It's definitely bad though because not nearly enough supply to meet demand.
Managed to preorder 4 mystery boxes at 32$ each, 8 tins at 13$, and 7 booster bundles at 40$. At this point I'm considering reselling everything seeing those crazy prices...
The surprise box being 100 with only 5 packs means dealers correctly believe the umbreon surprise box ex will be a 100+ dollar chaser. The surprise box and pokemon center etb are the only products im opening.
I watched that stream in it's entirety. There were SIRs but in 1000 packs there were 2 SIRs that were related to eevee and or eevelutions. Both SIRs were base eevee SIR. Zero eeveelution SIRs were pulled. About 5 gold pikachus were pulled. Packs were done on lots of 5 and 10. Started at $1 and the people bid them up to I'd say an average of $20 per pack but not uncommon to see 23.50 per pack. Worst I saw was the last lot of the stream which was 5 packs for $131 aka $26.50 per pack. Also the streamer was selling the eevee promo from ETBs for $35 each. About 45 of those sold.
@cracknpacksmtg7961 I don't think they were either. I think people are in for a rude awakening. Poor Danny Phantump and his master set giveaway. People were on that guy last night though, haha.
I got back into pokemon cuz of my daughter and she loves evee and the eveelutions and she has been so excited for this set. So frustrated by scalpers ruining this for those of us with kids.
@@roysakic5475 obviously, just stating that my 120 dollar PC etb turned into a 45 dollar card and maybe 20 dollars of card value. Personally, won't be opening mine.
The streamer said all those packs were from broken down etb’s and he did open about 4 live since people were being skeptical when so many packs were being open and barely any hits were being pulled. Was about 1000 packs open and only 2 sir eevees and he was selling the promo eevee separate as well.
I can't wait for things to calm down again. I managed to get my hands on quite a few loose packs for ripping and a few ETBs before the prices went insane. In fact, I got it for around MSRP because I was early enough that the prices hadn't risen at all. None of my product has been cancelled as of now, so I'm hoping I'm safe there. I am probably not touching any more PRE until everyone else gets bored of the set in 3-4-5 months. I have started investing in some of the sets, wanting to keep them long term. I have managed to get most of the product up until now for MSRP, but still I am legitimately upset that the prices are going so insane. I think I've put approximately $5000 into sealed product and it has increased to around $7500 in the past 2-3 months. My singles have gone from about $4000 to about $8000 (one of the singles is a Moonbreon). I should be ecstatic, but It honestly just makes me stressed out.
Yeah makes u wonder if that SS “reprint” is ever going to materialize, w new sets and PE eating up print time wouldn’t be surprised if BB prices for some of the SV box’s shoot to the moon
Could never happen. Team Rocket right around the corner will be crazy and that set might need a reprint bad too. They can't reprint every set while printing all the new sets.
Its so weird walking into a walmart and asking if they had pokemon cards and being told no because there has been a lot of thefts lately so they weren't carrying them at the moment. Then walking into a SAFEWAY of all things(grocery store) and finding a pokemon card machine and everything on it was sold out except single packs for just one set.. 😭
I was able to get 4 PC ETBs and 2 surprise boxes through PC. I have 2 ETBs through Target which are now showing preparing for delivery on the Circle App. Still praying they all go through. My kids are opening the regular ETBs.
Anything with Eevee Evolutions are fantastic. But im wondering if people who don't own stores got supplies. I started watching the Pokémon Center during December if they released the ETBs and it was already sold out
Just to give a bit more info - I ordered 400 etbs and 200 poster collections from my distro - I got 9 etbs and 2 poster collections. 300$ worth of product. I’ve spent over 200k with this distributor in the past few years, (not a new account)
Yeah, its crazy. My buddy who owns a shop was only able to get 1 case of etbs, poster collection, binder collection. His distributor told him he was getting more than others, which I thought was absurb. My local card shop claims he's getting 30 etbs and a few poster and binder collections.
This is so sad. Its reminding me about the times from covid when there was a shortage. Definitely just gonna sit and wait for them to print more and collect singles for my collection right now....
I usually assume a small pull back into more spiking. But I think people are so thirsty for product we might not even see that pull back. Hope Pokemon has a plan, but they haven't been able to keep up with any demand recently on the English side
I guess life didn’t intend for me to collect this set because I’m not paying these crazy prices. When I’m out shopping hopefully I get lucky and find them in store. I found 151 booster bundles in the wild recently so it can happen. May the force be with you.
I’ve been collecting since 2008 and this breaks my heart. It’s insane to imagine that buying a HGSS or Platinum product is close to or the same price for a booster box or ETB that hasn’t even been released yet…
I fully thought scalpers had learned their lesson as there hadn't been any major issues last year. I'd be curious what happened to make them suddenly come back in such force?
Once they saw how much these boxes were going for they came back. It's a combination of not enough supply, more eyeballs on things, a killer set being released. The perfect storm.
Can confirm that distribution to gamestores is wildly unstable. We (where I work in Australia) are hoping and praying they send us the allocation we requested.
A lot of ppl think they will be able to just wait to release date 1/17 and grab some product !! I’m tryna tell them the way this set is going and what it’s reselling for especially for etbs it’s gonna be hard af to get etbs on release! How hard you think it’s going to be brother ??!
I don’t even know if it’s worth skipping work to wait outside my local GS, I only have 3 local CS but all 3 are going to have confirmed campers from the night before, I was thinking Barnes and no. But I spoke to a few employees and even the manager and they said they won’t get anything until the tins in February
My friend got me into collecting Pokemon TCG, as massive Eevee fan I was very excited for this set to relese, but seeing the prices and how everything expensive is makes me... disapointed. Even next set is already sold out on UK's Pokemon Center site, insane! Opening packs is so much fun, but it looks like buing singles will be the way to go
What ticks me off is up here in Canada, they are still charging tax on the PC website, even though all things Pokemon everywhere else in Canada is Tax free until Feb.15. One wonders what they are doing with all this "extra" profit they are charging inappropriately. I've sent 2 tickets over the last 2 weeks about this fact and have yet to receive an answer.
Come to terms that I have to enter the lions den, I just have to get up at 4am on the 17th just to get a chance to get one piece of product. And I am very aware it will be my only chance to get any.
I am thinking of preordering the next two sets from forged and fire. Based on the movement lately I think it may be safe to lock in at MSRP. Thoughts anyone?
Their prices are high but every ones is. They didn't cancel on any one when they could have doubled their money so that said a lot in my book about them as a company.
I bought some japanese boxes before the hype got even higher so I could at least rip some before all of this. I didn't get either Sylveon or Umbreon like I wanted but at least I was able to try
@Itwasneveraphasecards i got the one with it laying down with a pokeball or masterball on it. Not what I wanted but still cool. Got one for hoothoot too
Journey Together got released for pre-order yesterday which is- yikes, some stores that cancelled their prismatic pre-orders are now offering those as pre-orders and it's untrustworthy, I don't get why they do it
I managed to get my hands on a preorder of one ETB. I'm probably gonna keep it sealed in my collection for a couple of years, who knows how much these are worth by then.
You are incorrect in your video. You claim stores are getting 10%-15% less, when the truth is they are getting 10%-15% TOTAL of what they ordered. That means 85%-90% less than they wanted. So if they ordered 100 ETBs they might only get 10-15 ETBs total.
My LGS hasn't had Pokemon boosters in months now (shout out to Critical Hit Games), and it sucks. I love Drafting so it is a very big disappointment that they haven't been able to get any boosters at all. It's a real shame that this is all happening.
This is probably the most depressing scene I’ve seen in decades of card collecting. I’ve just gotten back into the hobby after a hiatus to get my job in order and such and this is honestly one of the most exciting sets I’ve seen in years. I’m a huge fan of the eeveelutions and it’s behind disappointing that I’ll probably never get my hands on this set
For the Pokemon Center ETBs on eBay they cost $65 with tax (some states don't have sales tax). Selling at $225 right now after fees of 14% thats $193.50 minus $10 for shipping that puts the profit at $118.50 per ETB. Add $5 to that profit if they don't pay sales tax in their state.
Amazon carries prismatic evolutions product in Mexico, they have deliver dates up to may 2nd (for the eevee weedbag) and a reasonable 17th of march( for booster bundle boxes), i preordered yet i am worried if they are going to deliver lol
in theory, if everyone holds their products on release to sell later, they will be in competition with everyone else doing that so, wouldn't prices just go back down to msrp? or even lower if the people who dont usually sell Pokemon liquidate?
I just got back into the hobby of collecting cards again and I was really looking forward to prismatic because Eevee is my favorite Pokémon. I still wouldn't be too worried though it'll be released throughout the year and the hype will eventually die down
I watch the pack opening on Whatnot and the guy had all these from ETBs. He even open a few sealed one in front and still got pretty bad hits. this is looking more and more like a evolving skies hit rate set
Got a stocker at my local costco to set aside a Bloomin Waters pallet 😎 im just waiting on him to set a Prismatic one aside next 🤘🏼work smarter not harder boys
gotta search big retail. I'm all for prices shooting up on the second hand markets. This should most definitely help in the long term, but it also benefits the short term. Yes it sucks for casual hobbyists/collectors, but whatever you find in store you know you found gold, whether you open it or sell it. I managed to grab some preorders, even from resellers way before these current market prices. I do feel guilty about wanting to open these products just because I know what they're worth and what they'll do down the road. And we all know the prices will come down as the weeks and months go on. You can take advantage of the fomo now, but it'll be available. Look at 151 and crown zenith, it was everywhere, especially CZ.
151 was available for a long time before this bull market. But yeah you gonna have to work to get product get those restocks and drops at your Walmarts, Targets, and other stores.
The thing is I don’t feel comfortable opening my product seeing these prices. It’s like opening evo skies or hidden fates or unified minds. It’s craziness.
I’m pretty excited about this whole set recently got back into Pokémon about eight months ago bought some sword and shield stuff here and there. I own a couple booster boxes of scarlet and violet. I currently master set Eevee evolutions so this it’s going to suck to get but excited nonetheless. I pre-ordered like everybody else but I have Pokémon center. Etb’s is coming in and booster bundles from Pokémon center. I doubt that they will cancel.
I have a feeling battle partners might dip a bit compared. Only because I haven't seen anything amazing revealed from that but they could be saving the good cards for later.
How is every one feeling about Prismatic? I was way more optimistic a few days ago... EDIT: When reading the last article I mis read it. It's even worse than what I read I apologize I might be dyslexic or something.
Honestly it's just wild. I joined your discord a good while ago and I personally don't feed into the fomo. I get what I can scoop up for long term holding and ive started to swap to japanese for my personal collection of cards I like just for the simple fact my wallet won't be screaming 😂
@@Trntabls231ditto. I love my pages of Japanese ARs that I got for the fraction of the English versions. Not really an investment - it’s more to fufill the collector side of me.
don't worry, by the time team rocket releases, prismatic will breathe for awhile
Idk why anyone was optimistic. I got tired of everyone who is a big seller telling everyone not to buy. I’m no dummy. They need inventory lol. “It’s gonna be available on release day” lmao. Sure it is. Just like there’s so much 151 available right? Simple common sense here.
I'm feeling like if I don't show up an hour early to target on the 17th, I will never see this set, ever.
I'm new to collecting pokemon cards. This is ridiculous. I've made peace with the fact that I'm probably never getting this set. On the brightside, I guess this means older sets will be more available now
Edit: I was so wrong. Everything shot up. I just wanted some Crown Zenith 😔
I'm new too, but so far I'm finding it's becoming more and more difficult to find the good older sets. Only can find Scarlet Violet base set lately. Not the best or most valuable set.
Lol you’d think. All that has been getting bought since surging sparks release. Todays prices are the lowest prices and only going up for older sets for the next year or so
It will be the other way around. By the end of 2025 they will have reprinted Prismatic at least once if not more. Older sets will be harder and harder to get and only go up. This song and dance has happened before with Celebrations. It was impossible to get for like a year, then they made more and they made more again and then again.
Older sets climbing really fast right now too
There’s still good stuff you can find online on GameStop & pokecenter. This will be easier to get when people get burnt out on wasting their money on jacked up prices & the reprints start rolling in😂
There’s a common denominator with this current market and the Covid market. Sports card collectors buying pokemon products. They’re back, and they have deeper pockets than most of us Pokémon collectors.
Honestly not false. They also LOVE losing money. If you thought Pokemon Rippers were bad, sports guy are just downright sad
I will add that the scalper craze of 2020 was well, due to scalping of non card collectors, sports card collectors and pokemon collectors alike. On top of Logan Paul and his extremely fake pokemon card "spdcialist" when he opened that base set box.
The hype was insane and people were tricked into thinking their old cards from their childhoods were like worth gold. (They werent)
So if that's back again I suppose I won't be getting back into cards again once more (I sat out between 2019 and 2022 and sold all the stuff I got between 2022 and 2024 and recently wanted to try again)
Sad stuff if the market does reach covid market levels again
Just to clarify something you said at 17:40 "Stores are getting 10-15% less than they requested" but the article says "less than 10-15% of what was requested".... huge difference, not sure if you misspoke or misinterpreted the article but wanted to point that out, thanks for the vid!
Whoops I mis read that! Thanks for clarifying that makes it even worse. I apologize for the mistake
@@Itwasneveraphasecards All good! This set's gonna be rough 💀
I read a post on reddit that a store got even less than 5% allocated than their order was. WILD!
People need to stop buying things for these prices. I won’t be paying for this at these prices.
Nope nope nope
Doesn't even make sense to open any of the products I preordered at this rate.
@@themobbdeep66 I’m opening 2 poster collections and that’s it until more stock becomes available
Yeah I don't think I'm going to open anything either.
I was able to pre-order 2 etbs for 50$. It hasn't been canceled yet, and I'm ripping both. We'll be able to find this stuff for the next 3-4. There is no way these prices keep up for new stuff.
Technically the financial play is to never rip anything lol. But that's no fun is it
@@jamesjazz3395 maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. I think I'd rather play it safe and keep everything I preordered sealed for the time being. If products become more readily available and prices come down, then I'll consider opening a few things. Right now I have 5 ETBs and a couple of each poster, binder, and sticker collections. Managed to get them all at MSRP luckily.
I appreciate your candidness and vulnerability in the video. Unlike other super hype vids, your sobering take is helpful for us in the community. It feels like we as collectors are seeing our hobby be hijacked.
Glad you took it that way. Thanks for watching!
It’s foolish to pay these absurd prices when the product hasn’t even released yet. The people buying are likely people just trying to scalp and flip like you said or people who are new to the hobby and more susceptible to fomo. This set will be continually released throughout the year, there will be plenty of product available without having to pay several times over msrp. Pokémon has also shown that they have no problem responding to scalping issues like they did with shining fates. Combine that with the general increase in demand and it’s very likely this set will get printed a lot.
Well said and agree.
I’ve been saying this exact thing for 2 months now.
Love the positive energy, but I don't think 99% of you will be able to stroll in your walmarts/Target's and find this on the shelves,, ever.. The demand is too high. U have every fan of pokemon ever interested in this set. Not only that, u have every investor, scalper, reseller actively interested. If u are a casual, there's zero chance u will ever even see this on the shelves.
Your best bet at finding any would be at Barnes. And only if older grandmother's who don't care about money are stocking on Friday morning.
Gl out there and hope everyone is able to find some PE.
You have zero clue if there will be "plenty available" you're making a wild guess
@@keyframeclips you can really tell when people are new to the hobby.
Technically the TH-camrs are the scalpers opening way more boxes than most kids can dream of
Preach
That doesnt even make any sense
@kcvmusic the proof is on video on TH-cam who's buying all the pokemon card's
@ Highly doubt TH-camrs make up any significant amount of the consumers buying product. You must have no idea how much product is made
@kcvmusic bro the evidence is out, we can count the boxes from each video
Dude 2 local stores decided to just not carry it because of robbery fears
I hadn't even thought too deep into that aspect. Man that sucks
@Itwasneveraphasecards yea its insane I guess they said they did have a few break ins prior and so that combined with the hype has made them not sell they are too worried it will make them a bigger target
That’s crazy
That’s so sad.
Wichita had 4 card stores get broken into the other night
I got into cards about a few weeks before surging sparks launched. Holy shit what did I walk into..
It's exciting and scary! I wish you the best of luck
Same dude 😢
I really hope Pokémon prints this set into the ground tbh. Probably going to wait out the storm as a result, and buy the singles I want.
(I collect Glaceon cards and stuff like this is painful)
The Glaceon card from this set does look really nice I hope your able to pick it up for your collection.
I feel you! I love collecting Vaporeon cards! 💙
Same I collect eevee cards Im just going to purchase the black promo on ebay. The ETB prices are evolving cries 2.0.
170$ for an etb is crazy. You could get a whole booster box for that.
Check that listing out for the Umbreon EX from prismatic in English 😳
Not too long ago you could get two booster boxes for that on TikTok.
@@skeeveharvey6180i pulled the japanese umbreon ex sar😳😳
Of what though? Not this set?
@@rooboii Any scarlet and violet set except the two new ones.
We limit to 1 per person for special sets, but also sell at MSRP. We normally get 9 or 10 cases for each product with special sets. This time, we got 1 or 2. It is terrible when I can't even stock enough for my players.
I just got back into collecting mid-November. Most of the bigbox stores near me are basically all sold out of everything. In november, I was able to get whatever set I wanted. Now its gone or overpriced. Ripping is fun especially with friends, but now we just buy singles.
I almost regret coming back
It's rough right now but things will calm down eventually. I feel your pain!
I think TPCI knew this set was going to pop off, but it’s even surpassing their expectations. The staggered release schedule was likely designed to spread out demand as other sets release. It may end up like Crown Zenith where people are wondering in 2027 why we’re still getting stuff printed for Prismatic. You’ll be able to get stock at or below MSRP, but it will take time
Yeah they are going to be printing this set for a while most likely. Might make plays for other sets that might not get reprinted now if this takes that spot.
Lol, this is massive copium
@@ronburgundy4743 wdym this is copium? How?
Prismatic: there will be scalpers TR: there will be blood
The inflation of pokemon cards is starting to seriously worry me, I went into a store today and even a singular pack of a recent Japanese set was 11$. It’s small, but seriously worrying
It's out of control and Pokemon Center International should be ashamed.
1005 PACKS PRISMATIC [watched 1/6 at 7:26pm est ~4hrs+]
Pulls were:
15 SAR: 2 Eevee Ex (packs 508 & 989), 1 Palafin, 1 Gholdengo, 1 Iron Valiant, 1 Raging Bolt, 3 Ogerpon, 1 Ceruledge, 1 Dragapult, 2 Lacey, 1 Crispin, 1 Amarys
7 UR: 4 Gold Pika, 1 Gold Iron Leaves, 1 Gold Ogerpon, 1walking Wake
54 MBs: 1 Jolteon, 1 Espeon, 1 Flareon, 1 Vaporeon, 1 Glaceon, 1 Eevee, rest 00
64 FA Trainer
Thanks for sharing the stats!
Was this an English set?
1/500 chance for the eeveelution chases = English singles are so cooked.
I’m so glad my girl is a manager at a store she holds all the products for me before they reach shelves I’m good
Dang you got the hookup
@ it’s a real blessing and I always leave product for everyone else too :)
I’m glad I’m super close with locals. Pre-ordered late but they sold me 2 ETB’s for me and my wife at retail price. Bless honest honest local hobbies man 🙏
Honest local card shops are the best
I recently planning to get back into Pokémon card collecting again and thinking to get the Prismatic evolutions elite trainer box. Really sucks that it’s hard for those like me who wanting to get one for a chance to pull their favorites
It's rough right now but stay strong it will get better
I will say, I have accounts with all 4 distributors. I have a B&M, 2 distributors are giving us 1 individual ETB, the other other 2 are giving us 6 ETBs each. Thats it, we have spend and history with them.
We’ve also have preorder and allocations cancelled after getting our numbers. So idk…
Damn that's brutal. Thanks for sharing the info
My preorders consist of ; 2 binder collection 6 box cases for 200 per shipped and 6 binder collection box’s from GameStop at retail, now for those who got ETBs at retail “ I tip my hat “ because I regret not preordering those but I do have 4 pc ETBs coming as well as 6 booster bundles and a couple surprise box’s -
Those 4 PC ETBs are huge though congrats
@ definitely those are the ONEz , it’s funny because I was holorin at the Walmart vendor a few weeks ago explaining the situation concerning prismatic an how it’s gonna be hard to get and will bring scalpers out of the woodworks who don’t even collect to get strictly to flip, and she’s like will give me your number an Il let you know before I come in to stock ,,
Just got back into the hobby after seeing videos of 151. Sucks that I might not be able to get any prismatic at msrp but gives ne hope of maybe getting 151 and surging sparks at msrp.
It is definitely a tough climate, but hopefully, you can score some of the older sets still
I'm guessing ETBs will be $170-$200 by release day, then dip a tiny on release day and run back up. I'm kinda glad now that I got some from buck's at $76.80 each
Yeah that’s a steal. I think it’s going to be crazy for a while!
Until the store cancels it. Hope not.
Have you thought about preordering the team rocket or journey together sets? I've seen some preorders for $160 a booster box and i am tempted to preorder one just to have one confirmed. Forge and Fire has them
Yeah that’s MSRP. To be honest that might be the play at this point. However, you should in theory be able to get booster boxes from Pokemon center for MSRP worse case. They usually sell out slower but you never know in this
The Prismatic Evolutions is now at $103, I have seen others who did pulls and it seems 1 out of 2000 packs for a good pull.
Are merchants receiving less than 15% of what they ordered? Or they’re receiving 15% less than what was ordered? Or does it just depend on the merchant
15% of their total order. However, their orders for this set are WAY higher than the other sets (for the most part). It's definitely bad though because not nearly enough supply to meet demand.
Managed to preorder 4 mystery boxes at 32$ each, 8 tins at 13$, and 7 booster bundles at 40$. At this point I'm considering reselling everything seeing those crazy prices...
I don't blame you!
The surprise box being 100 with only 5 packs means dealers correctly believe the umbreon surprise box ex will be a 100+ dollar chaser. The surprise box and pokemon center etb are the only products im opening.
I watched that stream in it's entirety. There were SIRs but in 1000 packs there were 2 SIRs that were related to eevee and or eevelutions. Both SIRs were base eevee SIR. Zero eeveelution SIRs were pulled. About 5 gold pikachus were pulled. Packs were done on lots of 5 and 10. Started at $1 and the people bid them up to I'd say an average of $20 per pack but not uncommon to see 23.50 per pack. Worst I saw was the last lot of the stream which was 5 packs for $131 aka $26.50 per pack. Also the streamer was selling the eevee promo from ETBs for $35 each. About 45 of those sold.
Thanks for the info I wish I caught the stream.
Yup this is all facts. Set seems rough. I don’t think packs were weighed.
@cracknpacksmtg7961 I don't think they were either. I think people are in for a rude awakening. Poor Danny Phantump and his master set giveaway. People were on that guy last night though, haha.
@@ClassicEverQuest gonna be impossible to master tbh. Think the umbreon is gonna be $2000+
@@cracknpacksmtg7961 facts
I got back into pokemon cuz of my daughter and she loves evee and the eveelutions and she has been so excited for this set. So frustrated by scalpers ruining this for those of us with kids.
It's tough out there I hope you are able to get some product for your kids
I have a PC ETB and im wondering if i should crack it open for the feels or should i hold it for the long haul.
NOOOOOOO! These are GOLD disguised as cardboard, NO joke.
Hold Hold Hold. Or regret.
Hold my friend. I’m sure there is money to be made for grading the stamped promo but I would keep it sealed 100%
Keep sealed. You can make a grade play, but my surging promos were scuffed in package and not worth grading.
And there is no guarantee the promo card will be a psa 10
@@roysakic5475 obviously, just stating that my 120 dollar PC etb turned into a 45 dollar card and maybe 20 dollars of card value. Personally, won't be opening mine.
The streamer said all those packs were from broken down etb’s and he did open about 4 live since people were being skeptical when so many packs were being open and barely any hits were being pulled. Was about 1000 packs open and only 2 sir eevees and he was selling the promo eevee separate as well.
Thanks for clarifying that I missed the stream.
I can't wait for things to calm down again.
I managed to get my hands on quite a few loose packs for ripping and a few ETBs before the prices went insane. In fact, I got it for around MSRP because I was early enough that the prices hadn't risen at all. None of my product has been cancelled as of now, so I'm hoping I'm safe there.
I am probably not touching any more PRE until everyone else gets bored of the set in 3-4-5 months.
I have started investing in some of the sets, wanting to keep them long term. I have managed to get most of the product up until now for MSRP, but still I am legitimately upset that the prices are going so insane. I think I've put approximately $5000 into sealed product and it has increased to around $7500 in the past 2-3 months. My singles have gone from about $4000 to about $8000 (one of the singles is a Moonbreon). I should be ecstatic, but It honestly just makes me stressed out.
Those are some great gains!
So far no cancelations on my preorders hope it stays that well, if im lucky I'll have enough to open to satisfy myself
Nice!
This is why I just stick to playing the actual TCG.
I have been trying to get into playing the TCG and not just collecting
Yes, never been so thankful that I just buy singles and play casually with friends
What's crazy is that playing the actual TCG is so much more affordable now.
This is worse than the covid/Logan Paul boom 😢
Yeah it’s scary
It's organic demand, and the digital pocket app helped drive demand
Yeah makes u wonder if that SS “reprint” is ever going to materialize, w new sets and PE eating up print time wouldn’t be surprised if BB prices for some of the SV box’s shoot to the moon
Could never happen. Team Rocket right around the corner will be crazy and that set might need a reprint bad too. They can't reprint every set while printing all the new sets.
Its so weird walking into a walmart and asking if they had pokemon cards and being told no because there has been a lot of thefts lately so they weren't carrying them at the moment. Then walking into a SAFEWAY of all things(grocery store) and finding a pokemon card machine and everything on it was sold out except single packs for just one set.. 😭
I was able to get 4 PC ETBs and 2 surprise boxes through PC. I have 2 ETBs through Target which are now showing preparing for delivery on the Circle App. Still praying they all go through. My kids are opening the regular ETBs.
I'm praying those orders go through for you too!
I check Best Buy everyday and it still says being delivered on release day. I ordered early November hoping I get them
I had to settle for Terastal Festival out of fear of never being able to find Prismatic.
I think a lot of people are moving that way
Anything with Eevee Evolutions are fantastic. But im wondering if people who don't own stores got supplies. I started watching the Pokémon Center during December if they released the ETBs and it was already sold out
Just to give a bit more info - I ordered 400 etbs and 200 poster collections from my distro - I got 9 etbs and 2 poster collections. 300$ worth of product. I’ve spent over 200k with this distributor in the past few years, (not a new account)
That's rough! How much did you order for the previous sets Surging and Stellar?
Yeah, its crazy. My buddy who owns a shop was only able to get 1 case of etbs, poster collection, binder collection. His distributor told him he was getting more than others, which I thought was absurb. My local card shop claims he's getting 30 etbs and a few poster and binder collections.
Yikes - how does a business owner deal with a huge decrease like this? I imagine these quarterly sets account for a big part of annual revenue.
Temporal is a big set that is looking more likely not getting a reprint?
It’s really seeming like a lot of sets won’t get reprinted at this point.
Just subscribed! Love the vids man!
Thanks for subscribing!
Do you think there will be a limit when Pokémon Center restocks on release???
Yes. It should be 2 for PC ETBs but I could see them lowering it to 1.
@ thats what I was thinking. I think there will be a ultra premium on a sealed case 🚀🌙
This is so sad. Its reminding me about the times from covid when there was a shortage. Definitely just gonna sit and wait for them to print more and collect singles for my collection right now....
Yeah it seems more amplified than Covid which is scarier
Wait regular etbs are still sold to retail right? Only PC ETBs are in brick and mortars ?
I usually assume a small pull back into more spiking. But I think people are so thirsty for product we might not even see that pull back. Hope Pokemon has a plan, but they haven't been able to keep up with any demand recently on the English side
The biggest store in Alabama told me today they ordered 4K etb’s and are receiving 1k. Already sold 600 between online and irl presales.
Interesting I wonder how many they ordered for Surging and Stellar. If every store ordered 10x more than normal it makes sense they got less.
Getting back into collecting for fun after playing tcg pocket is HELL. I really wanted some cool cards from this set and the trainer set. ):
Sadly all of my Prismatic Evolutions preorders have been cancelled, expect for 2 PC ETBs
I'm sorry to hear that... The PC ETBs will serve you well though
Have you gotten any Info on when they start to send those out? I haven’t had mine canceled either
@@anthonylopez9777 PC EBTs should be shipped on release date, if you got preorders of them in
What time do they drop on the 17th??
Full video on drop here: th-cam.com/video/mQ6-F0B1Feg/w-d-xo.html
I guess life didn’t intend for me to collect this set because I’m not paying these crazy prices. When I’m out shopping hopefully I get lucky and find them in store. I found 151 booster bundles in the wild recently so it can happen. May the force be with you.
May the odds be ever in your favor
This gonna be the set no one opens and everyone sells just boxes lmao.
yeah im gonna sell my PC ETBS and all the suprise boxes i got from PC if they stay this high and i usually rip everything
Haha right boxes just changing hands not getting opening cause it's so expensive.
I’ve been collecting since 2008 and this breaks my heart. It’s insane to imagine that buying a HGSS or Platinum product is close to or the same price for a booster box or ETB that hasn’t even been released yet…
I fully thought scalpers had learned their lesson as there hadn't been any major issues last year. I'd be curious what happened to make them suddenly come back in such force?
Once they saw how much these boxes were going for they came back. It's a combination of not enough supply, more eyeballs on things, a killer set being released. The perfect storm.
Pokemon center restock are up for about how long? Like a few minutes?
Next Japanese set battle partners, what’s a good investing price for a case! Thank you
Don’t invest in non special sets for Japanese
I don’t do a lot of Japanese investing but anywhere in the $40s would be real good.
@@Mattrz34ooo okay! Just looking at future sets for Japanese. What would be the next best set to invest into
Love your background by the way. Subtle yet amazing.
Thanks, I love it too.
Can confirm that distribution to gamestores is wildly unstable. We (where I work in Australia) are hoping and praying they send us the allocation we requested.
A lot of ppl think they will be able to just wait to release date 1/17 and grab some product !! I’m tryna tell them the way this set is going and what it’s reselling for especially for etbs it’s gonna be hard af to get etbs on release! How hard you think it’s going to be brother ??!
Release morning is going to go very quick. Unless they limit the quantities even more. It's definitely worth trying though
Still not had anything cancelled but I did get my first delay today. This really is nuts.
Congrats on no cancellations
After the hype Ive been seeing surging sparks stuff on the shelves recently, so there is hope
I don’t even know if it’s worth skipping work to wait outside my local GS, I only have 3 local CS but all 3 are going to have confirmed campers from the night before, I was thinking Barnes and no. But I spoke to a few employees and even the manager and they said they won’t get anything until the tins in February
Are you saying to go to the store a couple days before 17th?
Yes some times like at a walmart or target it gets put out early
@ great thanks! I’ll go daily and only buy one etb if I see them :)
My friend got me into collecting Pokemon TCG, as massive Eevee fan I was very excited for this set to relese, but seeing the prices and how everything expensive is makes me... disapointed. Even next set is already sold out on UK's Pokemon Center site, insane! Opening packs is so much fun, but it looks like buing singles will be the way to go
What ticks me off is up here in Canada, they are still charging tax on the PC website, even though all things Pokemon everywhere else in Canada is Tax free until Feb.15. One wonders what they are doing with all this "extra" profit they are charging inappropriately. I've sent 2 tickets over the last 2 weeks about this fact and have yet to receive an answer.
I'm confident that the farther out you look for this set the more you can become optimistic.
Nope, hit rates are terrible like evolving skies…
I’m glad my interest has moved onto vintage cards, or at least older cards from recent past sets that are cheap.
Come to terms that I have to enter the lions den, I just have to get up at 4am on the 17th just to get a chance to get one piece of product. And I am very aware it will be my only chance to get any.
I am thinking of preordering the next two sets from forged and fire. Based on the movement lately I think it may be safe to lock in at MSRP. Thoughts anyone?
Their prices are high but every ones is. They didn't cancel on any one when they could have doubled their money so that said a lot in my book about them as a company.
I bought some japanese boxes before the hype got even higher so I could at least rip some before all of this. I didn't get either Sylveon or Umbreon like I wanted but at least I was able to try
Ripping the Japanese set is always fun and easy on the wallet. I'm sorry you didn't get your chase cards I didn't either but I did get the Espeon
@Itwasneveraphasecards i got the one with it laying down with a pokeball or masterball on it. Not what I wanted but still cool. Got one for hoothoot too
Journey Together got released for pre-order yesterday which is- yikes, some stores that cancelled their prismatic pre-orders are now offering those as pre-orders and it's untrustworthy, I don't get why they do it
What stores will have it in stock on the 17th ? Gamestop ?
Every where that's the release date.
You misinterpreted the pokebeach article. It wasn't 10-15% less than what they ordered. It was less than 10-15% of what they ordered.
Yes I did! I'm sorry about that! Way worse.
Do you release these type of videos on Spotify as a podcast? Because I would listen lol
I managed to get my hands on a preorder of one ETB. I'm probably gonna keep it sealed in my collection for a couple of years, who knows how much these are worth by then.
You are incorrect in your video. You claim stores are getting 10%-15% less, when the truth is they are getting 10%-15% TOTAL of what they ordered. That means 85%-90% less than they wanted. So if they ordered 100 ETBs they might only get 10-15 ETBs total.
My LGS hasn't had Pokemon boosters in months now (shout out to Critical Hit Games), and it sucks. I love Drafting so it is a very big disappointment that they haven't been able to get any boosters at all. It's a real shame that this is all happening.
This is probably the most depressing scene I’ve seen in decades of card collecting. I’ve just gotten back into the hobby after a hiatus to get my job in order and such and this is honestly one of the most exciting sets I’ve seen in years. I’m a huge fan of the eeveelutions and it’s behind disappointing that I’ll probably never get my hands on this set
It’s been a minute since I bought Pokémon cards. Can someone tell me why these are so popular right now? Are there any potential super valuable pulls?
Man…. I really wanted an ETB but idk if i can even get my hands on one at this point. Im glad I got a couple japanese booster boxes last month…
zero chance you'll find me waiting in line for target to open lmao that just sounds like a nightmare. Y'all have fun with this set
Totally understandable
How much are these scalpers actually making after fees and shipping. Like it’s a quick buck but how can people just pay these absurd prices?
For the Pokemon Center ETBs on eBay they cost $65 with tax (some states don't have sales tax). Selling at $225 right now after fees of 14% thats $193.50 minus $10 for shipping that puts the profit at $118.50 per ETB. Add $5 to that profit if they don't pay sales tax in their state.
Amazon carries prismatic evolutions product in Mexico, they have deliver dates up to may 2nd (for the eevee weedbag) and a reasonable 17th of march( for booster bundle boxes), i preordered yet i am worried if they are going to deliver lol
Binder collection is gold look at the price of the 151 binder collection holds a big premium, unlikey to get a reprint because of the binder.
in theory, if everyone holds their products on release to sell later, they will be in competition with everyone else doing that so, wouldn't prices just go back down to msrp? or even lower if the people who dont usually sell Pokemon liquidate?
I just got back into the hobby of collecting cards again and I was really looking forward to prismatic because Eevee is my favorite Pokémon. I still wouldn't be too worried though it'll be released throughout the year and the hype will eventually die down
I never expected scalpers to come back to this hobby in full force 😭😭😭
I watch the pack opening on Whatnot and the guy had all these from ETBs. He even open a few sealed one in front and still got pretty bad hits. this is looking more and more like a evolving skies hit rate set
Thanks for clarifying that!
Got a stocker at my local costco to set aside a Bloomin Waters pallet 😎 im just waiting on him to set a Prismatic one aside next 🤘🏼work smarter not harder boys
gotta search big retail. I'm all for prices shooting up on the second hand markets. This should most definitely help in the long term, but it also benefits the short term. Yes it sucks for casual hobbyists/collectors, but whatever you find in store you know you found gold, whether you open it or sell it. I managed to grab some preorders, even from resellers way before these current market prices. I do feel guilty about wanting to open these products just because I know what they're worth and what they'll do down the road.
And we all know the prices will come down as the weeks and months go on. You can take advantage of the fomo now, but it'll be available. Look at 151 and crown zenith, it was everywhere, especially CZ.
151 was available for a long time before this bull market. But yeah you gonna have to work to get product get those restocks and drops at your Walmarts, Targets, and other stores.
The thing is I don’t feel comfortable opening my product seeing these prices. It’s like opening evo skies or hidden fates or unified minds. It’s craziness.
I feel ya. I was going to open some too but now thinking about opening nothing.
I’m pretty excited about this whole set recently got back into Pokémon about eight months ago bought some sword and shield stuff here and there. I own a couple booster boxes of scarlet and violet. I currently master set Eevee evolutions so this it’s going to suck to get but excited nonetheless. I pre-ordered like everybody else but I have Pokémon center. Etb’s is coming in and booster bundles from Pokémon center. I doubt that they will cancel.
Pokemon Center won't cancel on you so no worries there. Congrats on getting those preorders.
This set is going to be a nightmare. Same for all future sets this year.
I have a feeling battle partners might dip a bit compared. Only because I haven't seen anything amazing revealed from that but they could be saving the good cards for later.
Poor Kids :,(
This reminds me of 2020. I'm hesitant to invest in surging sparks and prismatic because I think it could be shining fates all over again.
It's gonna be worse than 2020/2021 at this rate.
@ Yea, really seeming like it. I really don’t feel like the grind of that 4am line up but I might do it. Best of luck brother.
really feels like a vivid voltage shining fates situation if we zoom out and take a breath!