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Hi my name's Oddie Beau and I've been a 'collector' of oddness for as long as I can remember. Whether it be strange & obsolete eclectic items, or stories of strange and eccentric persons - they have found their way to me through the passage of time. A passion for history and a love of antiques has entwined with a morbid curiosity for vintage crime cases and bizarre true tales. I have tried to bring all these ingredients together on my channel. It's always a pleasure to find like minded souls... Let us begin... This video is over two years old and was first shown on my Patreon - the text format in this video was experimental and was never used again.
Where do you suppose it comes from? I'm the same way, but don't know why. There is one oddment that slipped through my fingers when I was small. It was a tiny white octopus preserved in a baby food jar with formaldehyde, and I was fascinated with. It belonged to my great uncle, and disappeared from its spot on the fence after he died. There were blackberries, plums, pears, and walnuts growing there, and lots of bamboo for fishing poles,, but no more mystery when the octopus vanished.
Oddie Beau, I don't think your curiosity is morbid at all. It's actually quite natural to explore the "other side" of man's duality. I, for one, thank you for your curiosity and dedication to the research and presentation of these stories. It's always a thrill for me to see when "Oddie" has explored a new topic. God bless you and yours, and I hope you never stop searching! (P.S. I also love your sense of humor 😉.)
This story has always been fascinating to me and I do believe it may have been featured on a television series Unsolved Mysteries. It truly is unsolved and while many theories have come about we will never actually know what happened. Still as always you have brought it to life with your amazing narration ❤❤
@@ObsoleteOddityHI Oddie I just recently found your channel and I subscribed right away. I'm hooked now and I've got a lot of catching up to do,but I'm here to stay so.
I feel sorry for Bessie. Doesn't sound like she really wanted to do this trip. I think she was talked into it by her husband who was seeking fame and fortune. He did everything to make it as dangerous and daredevil as possible. No life jackets, winter weather, a homemade boat and picked their Honeymoon... all for a reason . $$$$. Bessie had never been on a river before - imagine the sheer terror of those rapids to a novice. Of course she smiled for the camera, all about good publicity prior to the trip. I'll bet she had a sense of foreboding.
They refused additional life jackets, I think they had their own. And she had been on the river before, didn't he say she had been precising the rapids?
If they were murdered their supplies would have been stolen. If Bess had murdered her husband she wouldn't have stayed in the area for decades after. I'm curious whether they took their birth certificates and marriage license on the trip with them (seems unlikely) but I assume Georgie had them made when she began fancying herself to be Bess. The only logical conclusion is that one fell into the river and the other tried to save them. It fits all the known clues.
@@shirleyblaisdell9445 - we don't know where the accident happened and the Colorado River has countless places that bodies could be wedged and lost (eventually eaten by wildlife). It's sad but not impossible.
That’s what it sounded like the moment he said their camp, boat and supplies all looked intact and tidy. For some reason one went into the river accidentally and the other went in for rescue. The reason their bodies aren’t found is because that is a massive, violent and long river that heads out to sea and with spring melt their bodies could easily be washed away.
This is the only conclusion I can come to. Their supplies *would* have been stolen if they were murdered, perhaps the boat too. Would love to know if there really were one set of footprints, two, or none. Very strange that Georgie got it into her head that she was Bessie, and had the birth and marriage certificates. Some type of mental illness at play.
The Kolb brothers should have been investigated more closely. That's awfully suspicious that they saw them last and years later a skeleton was hidden inside their boat house.
So many captivating mysteries! And beautifully presented as usual. I imagine the folks who adventured on the Colorado during that time were quite the cast of characters. Thanks so much!
Wow, microfiche! There's a word I haven't heard in a while. The last time I had to look something up on microfiche was in 2002, and it was a surgical report from the early 1970s.
Wow how hauntingly tragic. And of course the story told so well by Oddie. His precipitation upon reading of that "foreshadowing" poem, proves again of his keen sense of giving the listeners food for thought. Thanks Oddie! Much Love.
Another. amazing story, I've never heard of them before. I learn about so many people & mysteries .......I want to thank you Oddie for the content of your channel!! Keep going & God Bless! ❤
What would I do without you Oddy!!? 🤔🧐 You have become a comfortable treat in my life. Always impressed 👍 You are very appreciated for all the hard work you do for us! Much Love sent your way from Regina Saskatchewan Canada ✌️ 💜
Definitely a fascinating story of this couple that pretty much vanished into thin air without leaving a trace of evidence behind as to what might of happened. It's all very haunting & mysterious exactly my cup of tea. Love these kinda mysteries & as always u present them brilliantly. The attention to detail & life u put into these stories is very impressive man. You're a natural one of the best storytellers on TH-cam. It's clear that Bessie was abit reluctant to go on that trip & had to be persuaded to do us by her husband who clearly was abit of a daredevil & risk taker in the fact he didn't wanna take life jackets. Fact that the boat was sturdy & wasn't damaged in any capacity & all their belongings were intact & wasn't missing makes me think that 1 of them fell into the freezing river & the other one jumped in to try & save their loved one but due to the temperature of the water & rapids etc both most likely succumbed to hypothermia & there bodies were most likely eaten by different species in that area. That's my theory
Two things. 1. Abuse is not usually something that happens at the beginning of a relationship. It often starts small and gets to be more and more as the relationship continues, especially when higher stress times occur. 2. By late in the year, fish start to go dormant. The Colorado River gets extremely cold in the winter. They could have been eaten, but something of them should have turned up. Granted, they didn't have the search abilities we have now. It just seems strange to assume they were eaten without anything, including bones or clothing, found at all. The best way to disappear without a trace is a grave though that would have been hard to dig that late in the year as well. I wonder if modem forensics would have a more interesting answer about the skeleton now.
That’s true, but there’s actually no evidence that there was any abuse here - it may have been a rumour started on the Internet. Well, there’s not just fish, but other animal scavengers that would take the bones and gnaw on them and displace them over a wide area.
@@ObsoleteOddity agreed, there's no evidence of pretty much anything about the two of them together. I just know some people blame victims thinking they should have known better, and that's not how it works. True enough, even a raccoon will rip in if they're hungry. It likely wouldn't have been bears but cougars could have been a danger. It's such a weird mystery and I love how much you look into it. The two guys are sketch, but who knows? This is the kind of thing that would piss off readers of a novel. Reality stranger than fiction.
@elleembee6335 you’re right though, in hindsight my comment about her smiling and looking cheerful, really doesn’t mean anything - and you are right, abuse starts off slowly in a relationship. There is so much more that I would like to know about their relationship, and really the whole evidence, obviously as you can see by the mainstream narrative, they didn’t even have it right about the footprints. So that means there’s been a lot of evidence that’s been overlooked or lost to time.
@@ObsoleteOddity not having the forensic ability we have today makes mysteries like this so much more spooky. "Perfect" crimes were easier to commit when they didn't even know to check for fingerprints.
Another interesting video Oddie and sad at the same time. 😢 It's a pity that they didn't take heed when they were warned to have life jackets on when venturing down the Colorado river. If they were capsized from the boat maybe they would have stood a chance to survive the tremulous Rapids. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
What a story! I was wondering if they ever compared a photo of Bessie and the woman claiming to be her??? I had a thought when it was said that Bessie shot her husband and then left alone…..but what if the Kolb brothers were following her and saw it & the skeleton was her husband whom Kolb decided to hide in a place in his home?? Then Bessie was helped by Kolb to disappear and become Georgie?? Just wild thoughts on my part! Thank you Oldie for sharing this mystery story. I so love your accent that I don’t care if you pronounce a word wrong or not!! Blessings always my dear friend!! 🙏❤️✝️
@@ObsoleteOddity Oh my goodness!!! I swear that was a typo!! I’m 74 years old and my typing skills are rusty and my phones keyboard is too small for my chubby fingers! Please forgive me! 😮❤️🙏
There could be one set of footprints, but made by both of them. It was common for men to break a trail in snow and then have companions use their prints to make following easier.
What a heartbreaking story. And what a mystery! I think they were young, in love, on their honeymoon, and something terrible happened. Just not sure what, exactly. The Kolb men are very sus, especially the skeleton in the boat shed. Their photo gave me the willies as well. The Hyde's photos showed a young, happy couple on the adventure and honeymoon of a lifetime. I tend to think they were likely murdered, and that's a tragedy. Sadly, we'll probably never know. And that poem at the end - it's like a portent! Thank you for another wonderful tale, Oddie
Oldie a great mystery of this couple. I do hope they went together and happy in Heaven. As far as Emery yes I wouldn't of trusted him either. Something doesn't set right because how the boat was found and they're supplys on board. Best wishes to you from Oklahoma in United States 🇺🇸
Another wonderful mystery! Thank you, Oddie! I guess I tend to believe that they had gone overboard. That makes the most sense with what was found. But I'm fascinated by the whole Kolb discovery. There's another good story behind that, I'm sure!
Thanks for the upload Oddie. I was lucky my family traveled the United States when I was a kid and I saw the beautiful Grand Canyon once before. About Glenn and Bessie Hyde: This was a Fascinating and baffling case I have never heard about before you told us. Do not know what to make of this case. Oddie your theory could be correct. The Hydes could have been killed by those brothers. Kind of reminds me of the movie "Deliverance" where business people go to the backwoods and meet hillbillies who attack them. Very good and recommended movie with Burt Reynolds, John Voight, Ned Beatty and Ronny Cox. 💕💕
I've heard of this story before, but you brought more information than I had heard of! Yes, very interesting about Kolb...hmmm. The poem was hauntingly befitting the story! Maybe it was an omen of things to come?
Right after I started hearing this true story, the first thing that came to mind was the movie, Deliverance. I do not believe they had any sort of accident. I'm pretty sure the two brothers were the reason for their demise. I just love when you tell of things that happened so many years ago. It makes my mind swim. Thank you again.
I’m so happy that you’re enjoying my content, thank you so much for your positive feedback. Yes, anything could happen to a person or persons out there, nowhere to run, no one to help you - scary.
Poor Bessie, she seemed to have been forced into the excursion by her jerk of a husband, and ended up dying due to his ego and stubbornness. The comment Bessie made about the pretty shoes broke my heart- she knew her needs and wants would never be fulfilled.
Hello Oddity. Great story. Sad as well. I believe that those two guys did something to the young couple. Perhaps. The two guys, wanted to be the ones to arrive and in the papers as celebrates .God bless you my friend. ❤
18:21 It’s interesting and kind of funny how some couples who aren’t related (in any known way, or even anywhere near-closely, except for typically by phenotype &/or ethnicity), and who are sometimes startlingly similar-looking in ways, are madly attracted to one another, as the ill-fated young couple look in that photo at time stamp, imo. To me, they look very much like brother and sister there. Wonderful video, and a very sad and bizarre tale❣️🧿
They absolutely do. I missed it because I was thrown off by her bright teeth which seems unnatural so really only gave him a glance, Returned thanks to your time stamp. hair lines first, very high foreheads,.... especially if she is short. She many not actually be. Lips, nose , smile folds, eyes, hooded eye lids and.... if that's not enough me..... the clincher me and locks the similarities in place are the eyebrows and especially the most arched one... and its the same one on both of them..... check. Edit" I was so perplexed by what I saw that I took out my magnifying glass. His teeth are very bad and hers have been badly fixed.
Oddie, your intuition is sharp.. I think you are on to something. Perhaps these two guys tried something bad with Bessie, and killed Glenn... I don't hope. But there are people like that out there 😢
I certainly hope that didn’t happen either my friend, but two young people out in the wilderness would be targets for certain people who look for opportunities like that. Opportunities where such a predator(s) would not get caught.
I think they made have found misfortune (possibly hitting rapids, or mistook a small rapid for what could be falls.), and the reason nobody found them, is probably scavenging animals using their bodies as nourishment in a harsh, unforgiving biome where every calorie is sacred.
I suspect the boat got away from them, not secured properly so they were left without anything to help them being stranded. I think the elements, exposure, lack of survival knowledge, bit of hubris (I would say) contributed to their death. Mountain lions roam the area. The couple would have been easy prey. Wolves and coyotes as well as other animals may have scattered remains. Kolb really had no solid motive for killing them, IMO. They should do a facial reconstruction of the murdered man or try to extract DNA, put it thru genealogy data banks, see if anything connects him to relatives. Love your channel!
Had similar thought of Kolb in the very moment I saw the photo of him. Lonely, old bachelor offering a couple to live with him over winter? I got the creeps.
It sounds to me like Bessie and Glen might have hit a really bad rapid and couldn't control their boat because it is too coincidental that this other lady who claimed to be Bessie wasn't since she looked nothing like her and my guess is that the Colorado River knows the answer and it's not talking.
Am sure it's TH-cams doing, but not sure what to do about not getting connected to latest videos. As a patron, I'm angry. Can't believe had to confirm twice that I wanted to watch this. In future, I know to check for updates. Please don't let their censorship get you down. We value and appreciate your artistry.
Are you a Patreon on my Patreon site, Linda? There I am free of TH-cam restrictions, here they give me nothing but trouble. Thank you for your kind words, my friend, I appreciate your support.
I believe that the Colorado river was swollen and they got caught up in the rapids and no survivors 😢 many armchair detective think that the boat had a big part of the mystery and the Discovery channel did a feature about this as well.
Fascinating story! I had never known about this! Dont police always look closely at the partner or the last person to have been known to be with the victim? Couldnt DNA be used now to confirm whose skeleton it was found in the Kolbs boathouse? Interesting theories!! Thank you for sharing!!❤
I appreciate that, thank you so much for your kind feedback. I guess because of the age of the case there is not much interest for cold Case detectives to exhume the body for DNA, if it had been more high profile, perhaps.
This odd story reminds me of a couple taking a modern day cruise when the wife fell off the balcony. The husband didn't hesitate, he jumped in after her. They were never found but really it would have been better to call man overboard to the Captain so they could mark where she fell. They took 2 days to find out they were even missing!
Interesting video👏 I have a feeling that the old woman had something to do with the couples dissapearance. Perhaps she or someone with her lured them to come closer to the shore and killed them, then took their things and just pushed the boat away.🤔 Another things of mystery is who that skeleton was...
Yes Bessie Hyde was very attractive and her smile in that photograph looked natural to me. Even her husband's smile looked natural. Ive never heard this story prior to this. I think the Kolb bloke had something to do with it especially with the fact that a skeleton with a bullet wound to the temple was found on his property. Yes its a very interesting mystery that makes me want to know more, but i think you covered most of it very well. I still lean towards Kolb. Since no tattered clothing or skeletal remains weren't found they could have been buried somewhere in the wilderness by Kolb.
I believe the obvious story. But have to admit the story of the Kolbs makes me very suspect. Maybe one of their many victims. Sad sorry and very interesting. Thanks Oddy.
It is possible the last person to see them alive did the deed and walked away; they fell in the rapids; or, perished during a bout of bad weather. Animals would have scattered their bones. But, no one ever found any clothing nor bone fragments? A capsized boat wouldn’t be found right side up with everything intact, would it? One thing for certain sure is, God knows what happened to them. The skeleton found in the boat house may have known what happened to the couple as well. Very sad. Thank you for sharing this couple’s story.
There are so many things that could’ve happened to them, all we can do is conjecture. Too much time has passed by for this ever to be solved. Very glad you enjoyed the presentation!
The Kolb brothers were good men, absolute legends at the Canyon. The skeleton in the canoe was already proven to not be Glen Hyde - Emery kept it as a joke and he had also been a mortician. You should read "Over the Edge - Death in Grand Canyon". The book gives a fully investigated account of the Hydes.
OMG, that poem! 😢 Georgie is Bessie! I just know it. With the advances in criminal foresics, they should reopen the case. Check the gun they found at Gerrgie's and the bullet in the dead man in the canoe. If this case hasn't been reviewed since the 70s, well... 🤷🏼♀️☮🌹
As I mentioned during the presentation, Georgie‘s life was well documented - she is definitely not Bessie. They don’t even look alike, Georgie had a slightly hooked nose, while Bessie had a snub nose. It has been proved beyond any doubt that Georgie was not Bessie.
@@ObsoleteOdditysigh! I wish they could solve this. I thought of that young couple a few years ago in America, who were traveling by van and in the mountains of Colorado her boyfriend killed her, then he went home and into the woods in Florida and killed himself. Adventures are cool, but not when they end in mystery and death. Even if these kinds of stories are fodder for couch sleuths. I hope you and Oddette have a great summer. 🙂👍⛱🌹☮
Yeah, me too, such crimes these days are much easier to solve, although not always. But back then people lost in the wilderness, there was little chance of being found whether they had been murdered or fallen victim to an accident.
I'm wondering if it's possible to do some genetic genealogy on the remains found at the Kolb place in order to determine their identity. It might not shed any light on what happened to the Hydes, but would still be interesting.
They could do forensic genealogy on the skeleton with the bullet hole to find who he was related to. They do it with Jane and John Doe's. It may help answer that question.
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Hi my name's Oddie Beau and I've been a 'collector' of oddness for as long as I can remember. Whether it be strange & obsolete eclectic items, or stories of strange and eccentric persons - they have found their way to me through the passage of time. A passion for history and a love of antiques has entwined with a morbid curiosity for vintage crime cases and bizarre true tales.
I have tried to bring all these ingredients together on my channel.
It's always a pleasure to find like minded souls...
Let us begin...
This video is over two years old and was first shown on my Patreon - the text format in this video was experimental and was never used again.
Where do you suppose it comes from? I'm the same way, but don't know why.
There is one oddment that slipped through my fingers when I was small. It was a tiny white octopus preserved in a baby food jar with formaldehyde, and I was fascinated with. It belonged to my great uncle, and disappeared from its spot on the fence after he died. There were blackberries, plums, pears, and walnuts growing there, and lots of bamboo for fishing poles,, but no more mystery when the octopus vanished.
Oddie Beau, I don't think your curiosity is morbid at all. It's actually quite natural to explore the "other side" of man's duality. I, for one, thank you for your curiosity and dedication to the research and presentation of these stories. It's always a thrill for me to see when "Oddie" has explored a new topic. God bless you and yours, and I hope you never stop searching! (P.S. I also love your sense of humor 😉.)
Great story. 1920s version of Gen z van couple. Another great Sunday coffee & oddie...continued success
Glad you enjoyed it!
This story has always been fascinating to me and I do believe it may have been featured on a television series Unsolved Mysteries. It truly is unsolved and while many theories have come about we will never actually know what happened. Still as always you have brought it to life with your amazing narration ❤❤
Much appreciated, thank you kindly Katy!
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@@ObsoleteOddityHI Oddie I just recently found your channel and I subscribed right away. I'm hooked now and I've got a lot of catching up to do,but I'm here to stay so.
I feel sorry for Bessie. Doesn't sound like she really wanted to do this trip. I think she was talked into it by her husband who was seeking fame and fortune. He did everything to make it as dangerous and daredevil as possible. No life jackets, winter weather, a homemade boat and picked their Honeymoon... all for a reason . $$$$. Bessie had never been on a river before - imagine the sheer terror of those rapids to a novice. Of course she smiled for the camera, all about good publicity prior to the trip. I'll bet she had a sense of foreboding.
They refused additional life jackets, I think they had their own. And she had been on the river before, didn't he say she had been precising the rapids?
If they were murdered their supplies would have been stolen. If Bess had murdered her husband she wouldn't have stayed in the area for decades after. I'm curious whether they took their birth certificates and marriage license on the trip with them (seems unlikely) but I assume Georgie had them made when she began fancying herself to be Bess.
The only logical conclusion is that one fell into the river and the other tried to save them. It fits all the known clues.
So where are their bodies tho? 🤔
@@shirleyblaisdell9445 - we don't know where the accident happened and the Colorado River has countless places that bodies could be wedged and lost (eventually eaten by wildlife). It's sad but not impossible.
That’s what it sounded like the moment he said their camp, boat and supplies all looked intact and tidy. For some reason one went into the river accidentally and the other went in for rescue. The reason their bodies aren’t found is because that is a massive, violent and long river that heads out to sea and with spring melt their bodies could easily be washed away.
This is the only conclusion I can come to. Their supplies *would* have been stolen if they were murdered, perhaps the boat too. Would love to know if there really were one set of footprints, two, or none. Very strange that Georgie got it into her head that she was Bessie, and had the birth and marriage certificates. Some type of mental illness at play.
The Kolb brothers should have been investigated more closely. That's awfully suspicious that they saw them last and years later a skeleton was hidden inside their boat house.
So many captivating mysteries! And beautifully presented as usual. I imagine the folks who adventured on the Colorado during that time were quite the cast of characters. Thanks so much!
Glad you enjoyed it Amy! Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback 😊
Oh Oddie another mystery ! I thank you for the story. Love to you and Mrs Oddie. Be safe my friend! 💕💕💕💕💕💙💙
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Wow, microfiche! There's a word I haven't heard in a while. The last time I had to look something up on microfiche was in 2002, and it was a surgical report from the early 1970s.
Wow how hauntingly tragic.
And of course the story told so well by Oddie.
His precipitation upon reading of that "foreshadowing" poem, proves again of his keen sense of giving the listeners food for thought.
Thanks Oddie! Much Love.
Thank you for your kind words, Pamela, very much appreciated, my friend. ☺️🙏
Another. amazing story, I've never heard of them before. I learn about so many people & mysteries .......I want to thank you Oddie for the content of your channel!! Keep going & God Bless! ❤
Thank you for reaching out with your kind feedback, Sandra, so glad you enjoyed the presentation and my content! Much appreciated 😊
Interesting story .i reckon one fell in ,and the other jumped in to save them .❤
I'm so happy, I lost this channel a while back. So glad to find it again. Love your narration.
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Good morning Oddie as always watching 👀 another wonderful Story Bravo Sir ❤🎉🪻🪻🪻🪻
Thank you for watching and listening my friend.
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Strange, that they never found their bodies, but good story! Thank you Oddie! 😘
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Definitely a fascinating story of this couple that pretty much vanished into thin air without leaving a trace of evidence behind as to what might of happened. It's all very haunting & mysterious exactly my cup of tea. Love these kinda mysteries & as always u present them brilliantly. The attention to detail & life u put into these stories is very impressive man. You're a natural one of the best storytellers on TH-cam.
It's clear that Bessie was abit reluctant to go on that trip & had to be persuaded to do us by her husband who clearly was abit of a daredevil & risk taker in the fact he didn't wanna take life jackets. Fact that the boat was sturdy & wasn't damaged in any capacity & all their belongings were intact & wasn't missing makes me think that 1 of them fell into the freezing river & the other one jumped in to try & save their loved one but due to the temperature of the water & rapids etc both most likely succumbed to hypothermia & there bodies were most likely eaten by different species in that area. That's my theory
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Two things.
1. Abuse is not usually something that happens at the beginning of a relationship. It often starts small and gets to be more and more as the relationship continues, especially when higher stress times occur.
2. By late in the year, fish start to go dormant. The Colorado River gets extremely cold in the winter. They could have been eaten, but something of them should have turned up. Granted, they didn't have the search abilities we have now. It just seems strange to assume they were eaten without anything, including bones or clothing, found at all. The best way to disappear without a trace is a grave though that would have been hard to dig that late in the year as well. I wonder if modem forensics would have a more interesting answer about the skeleton now.
That’s true, but there’s actually no evidence that there was any abuse here - it may have been a rumour started on the Internet.
Well, there’s not just fish, but other animal scavengers that would take the bones and gnaw on them and displace them over a wide area.
@@ObsoleteOddity agreed, there's no evidence of pretty much anything about the two of them together. I just know some people blame victims thinking they should have known better, and that's not how it works.
True enough, even a raccoon will rip in if they're hungry. It likely wouldn't have been bears but cougars could have been a danger. It's such a weird mystery and I love how much you look into it.
The two guys are sketch, but who knows? This is the kind of thing that would piss off readers of a novel. Reality stranger than fiction.
@elleembee6335 you’re right though, in hindsight my comment about her smiling and looking cheerful, really doesn’t mean anything - and you are right, abuse starts off slowly in a relationship. There is so much more that I would like to know about their relationship, and really the whole evidence, obviously as you can see by the mainstream narrative, they didn’t even have it right about the footprints. So that means there’s been a lot of evidence that’s been overlooked or lost to time.
@@ObsoleteOddity not having the forensic ability we have today makes mysteries like this so much more spooky. "Perfect" crimes were easier to commit when they didn't even know to check for fingerprints.
Another interesting video Oddie and sad at the same time. 😢 It's a pity that they didn't take heed when they were warned to have life jackets on when venturing down the Colorado river. If they were capsized from the boat maybe they would have stood a chance to survive the tremulous Rapids. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
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I've heard this story before but it's so much better when Oddity tells it. Thanks Oddity! Your the best❤❤❤❤❤
That's very kind of you, thank you for that. ☺️🙏
What a story! I was wondering if they ever compared a photo of Bessie and the woman claiming to be her??? I had a thought when it was said that Bessie shot her husband and then left alone…..but what if the Kolb brothers were following her and saw it & the skeleton was her husband whom Kolb decided to hide in a place in his home?? Then Bessie was helped by Kolb to disappear and become Georgie?? Just wild thoughts on my part! Thank you Oldie for sharing this mystery story. I so love your accent that I don’t care if you pronounce a word wrong or not!! Blessings always my dear friend!! 🙏❤️✝️
Thanks for your insights and kind feedback, Betty, although enough of the “oldie”, I’m getting there without being reminded of it 😄
@@ObsoleteOddity Oh my goodness!!! I swear that was a typo!! I’m 74 years old and my typing skills are rusty and my phones keyboard is too small for my chubby fingers! Please forgive me! 😮❤️🙏
@@bettyfeliciano7322 Thank you 😊 I'm happy to hear that! 😂😂
Greetings Dearest Oddie! Thankyou for the perfect nightcap & Cheers!
I do hope you enjoy it, Helen, have a lovely evening 😊
Morning from California Oddie. Nice...a hometown mystery! Cheers for another PHENOMENAL story bruv
A mystery from your hometown, I do hope you enjoy it!
@@ObsoleteOddity excellent storytelling Oddie...as usual
I really appreciate that, thank you
@@ObsoleteOddity I appreciate the narratives you do
Morning Oddie love hearing and seeing your videos ❤ keep up the great work
Thank you! Will do!
Their story was the first one I heard about disappearing on TH-cam.
I think you did a wonderful video Oddie💓
Thank you for sharing💓
Thank you so much!
There could be one set of footprints, but made by both of them. It was common for men to break a trail in snow and then have companions use their prints to make following easier.
What a heartbreaking story. And what a mystery! I think they were young, in love, on their honeymoon, and something terrible happened. Just not sure what, exactly. The Kolb men are very sus, especially the skeleton in the boat shed. Their photo gave me the willies as well. The Hyde's photos showed a young, happy couple on the adventure and honeymoon of a lifetime. I tend to think they were likely murdered, and that's a tragedy. Sadly, we'll probably never know. And that poem at the end - it's like a portent! Thank you for another wonderful tale, Oddie
Thank you for your insights and kind feedback Anne, very glad you enjoyed the presentation and yes the poem most certainly seemed like a portent!
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Oldie a great mystery of this couple. I do hope they went together and happy in Heaven. As far as Emery yes I wouldn't of trusted him either. Something doesn't set right because how the boat was found and they're supplys on board. Best wishes to you from Oklahoma in United States 🇺🇸
Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback Beverly 😊
Another wonderful mystery! Thank you, Oddie! I guess I tend to believe that they had gone overboard. That makes the most sense with what was found. But I'm fascinated by the whole Kolb discovery. There's another good story behind that, I'm sure!
Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback 😊
The poem ending gives me a shivery pause!
Thanks for the upload Oddie. I was lucky my family traveled the United States when I was a kid and I saw the beautiful Grand Canyon once before. About Glenn and Bessie Hyde: This was a Fascinating and baffling case I have never heard about before you told us. Do not know what to make of this case.
Oddie your theory could be correct. The Hydes could have been killed by those brothers. Kind of reminds me of the movie "Deliverance" where business people go to the backwoods and meet hillbillies who attack them. Very good and recommended movie with Burt Reynolds, John Voight, Ned Beatty and Ronny Cox. 💕💕
Thank you! 😊 Glad you enjoyed the presentation my friend!
Thanks Oddie. Needed this.
Happy to help! 😊
Strange story, haunting poem. Good video.
Never heard this story before. Thanks for uploading :)
I’m glad you enjoyed it, thank you!
I love your channel❤
Thank you so much for your very generous donation and so happy you’re enjoying my content, thank you!
Oddie, you're a diamond in the rough. I will be eternally grateful I found your channel. Much love, from India.
I’m already highly polished my friend, thank you! 😄
This is another amazing work of art. Thank you
So glad you enjoyed the presentation - very much appreciated 😊
Hooray, Oddie checks in to say hi!
😊 Much appreciated, thank you kindly!
The picture of the boat looked primitive and no better than a child's homemade project! Thank you.
I've heard of this story before, but you brought more information than I had heard of! Yes, very interesting about Kolb...hmmm. The poem was hauntingly befitting the story! Maybe it was an omen of things to come?
I really appreciate that, thank you.
Oh man, the poem in the end……
I enjoyed this immensely! Thank you Oddie, well done 👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much my friend 😊
Right after I started hearing this true story, the first thing that came to mind was the movie, Deliverance. I do not believe they had any sort of accident. I'm pretty sure the two brothers were the reason for their demise. I just love when you tell of things that happened so many years ago. It makes my mind swim. Thank you again.
I’m so happy that you’re enjoying my content, thank you so much for your positive feedback.
Yes, anything could happen to a person or persons out there, nowhere to run, no one to help you - scary.
Another fine and fantastic adventure Sir Oddie♡
Very glad you enjoyed it, Frances!
I love this story and the way you tell it ❤
That's very kind of you, thank you for that.
Wonderful as always Oddy Team ❤️
Thank you, my friend, but no team - just me!
@@ObsoleteOddity Well then, wonderful job Oddy. I've enjoyed your posts for years. Just wanted to let you know you are appreciated.
@lorry2763 that’s very kind of you, my friend, thank you for your loyal viewing and appreciation 😊
Poor Bessie, she seemed to have been forced into the excursion by her jerk of a husband, and ended up dying due to his ego and stubbornness. The comment Bessie made about the pretty shoes broke my heart- she knew her needs and wants would never be fulfilled.
As we use to say in New Mexico, Happy Trails to you my friend. Really enjoy your videos. Peace !!
I’m happy to hear that, thank you!
🎵Hey there, Georgie Clark🎵✌️
Wow, greatly researched and told, like always. Thank you so much, enjoyed it so much! ❤️
😊 Much appreciated, thank you kindly!
Interesting case a real mystery
Another gret pick, Oddie! ❤
Sorry I mean great!
very much appreciated 😊
Another incredible story. Wow that poem...may she rest in peace, gentle mermaid
Thank you 🙏
Oh thank you ,i love listening to you, and Sunday night perfect 👌 ❤
Much appreciated, thank you kindly
Good morning Oddie 🎉
Good night lol
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Hello Oddity. Great story. Sad as well. I believe that those two guys did something to the young couple. Perhaps. The two guys, wanted to be the ones to arrive and in the papers as celebrates .God bless you my friend. ❤
Glad you enjoyed it, Theresa, thank you for your insights and feedback, much appreciated.
Thnx for the video
My pleasure!
18:21 It’s interesting and kind of funny how some couples who aren’t related (in any known way, or even anywhere near-closely, except for typically by phenotype &/or ethnicity), and who are sometimes startlingly similar-looking in ways, are madly attracted to one another, as the ill-fated young couple look in that photo at time stamp, imo.
To me, they look very much like brother and sister there. Wonderful video, and a very sad and bizarre tale❣️🧿
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you
They absolutely do. I missed it because I was thrown off by her bright teeth which seems unnatural so really only gave him a glance, Returned thanks to your time stamp. hair lines first, very high foreheads,.... especially if she is short. She many not actually be. Lips, nose , smile folds, eyes, hooded eye lids and.... if that's not enough me..... the clincher me and locks the similarities in place are the eyebrows and especially the most arched one... and its the same one on both of them..... check. Edit" I was so perplexed by what I saw that I took out my magnifying glass. His teeth are very bad and hers have been badly fixed.
Oddie, your intuition is sharp.. I think you are on to something. Perhaps these two guys tried something bad with Bessie, and killed Glenn... I don't hope. But there are people like that out there 😢
I certainly hope that didn’t happen either my friend, but two young people out in the wilderness would be targets for certain people who look for opportunities like that.
Opportunities where such a predator(s) would not get caught.
Great mystery
😊 thank you kindly!
I never heard of this story, thank you for sharing ❤️
You are so welcome!
Great video. Thank you Oddie
Glad you enjoyed it Serena
Excellent story. That poem at the end was very odd indeed
So glad you enjoyed the presentation - very much appreciated 😊
“Adventurous” is by far the better word anyway Oddie. You were only following good instincts 😊💕
Thank you 😄😊
I think they made have found misfortune (possibly hitting rapids, or mistook a small rapid for what could be falls.), and the reason nobody found them, is probably scavenging animals using their bodies as nourishment in a harsh, unforgiving biome where every calorie is sacred.
My man thanks oddie bravo dude 😎
Any time!
I suspect the boat got away from them, not secured properly so they were left without anything to help them being stranded. I think the elements, exposure, lack of survival knowledge, bit of hubris (I would say) contributed to their death. Mountain lions roam the area. The couple would have been easy prey. Wolves and coyotes as well as other animals may have scattered remains.
Kolb really had no solid motive for killing them, IMO.
They should do a facial reconstruction of the murdered man or try to extract DNA, put it thru genealogy data banks, see if anything connects him to relatives.
Love your channel!
Sexual desire in some men can be a strong enough motive to kill in a remote area.
I looked happy in pictures with my abusive ex and I got bullied into doing things I didn't want to do. Pictures tell good lies.
Thanks for the great video, Oddie! BTW - it was aliens. Well, aliens or Lumerians/Atlanteans. 😎
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent.. Thank You..
Thank you so much!
Love this channel 😊
Thank you ☺️
Your initiation is right on
I won't trust those brothers
You’re still the best, Oddie.
That’s very kind of you, my friend! 😊
Had similar thought of Kolb in the very moment I saw the photo of him. Lonely, old bachelor offering a couple to live with him over winter? I got the creeps.
It sounds to me like Bessie and Glen might have hit a really bad rapid and couldn't control their boat because it is too coincidental that this other lady who claimed to be Bessie wasn't since she looked nothing like her and my guess is that the Colorado River knows the answer and it's not talking.
Am sure it's TH-cams doing, but not sure what to do about not getting connected to latest videos. As a patron, I'm angry. Can't believe had to confirm twice that I wanted to watch this. In future, I know to check for updates. Please don't let their censorship get you down. We value and appreciate your artistry.
Are you a Patreon on my Patreon site, Linda?
There I am free of TH-cam restrictions, here they give me nothing but trouble.
Thank you for your kind words, my friend, I appreciate your support.
Another fascinating story from history.
Much appreciated, thank you kindly
There's something sneaky going on with this situation.
I believe that the Colorado river was swollen and they got caught up in the rapids and no survivors 😢 many armchair detective think that the boat had a big part of the mystery and the Discovery channel did a feature about this as well.
Fascinating story! I had never known about this! Dont police always look closely at the partner or the last person to have been known to be with the victim? Couldnt DNA be used now to confirm whose skeleton it was found in the Kolbs boathouse? Interesting theories!! Thank you for sharing!!❤
I appreciate that, thank you so much for your kind feedback.
I guess because of the age of the case there is not much interest for cold Case detectives to exhume the body for DNA, if it had been more high profile, perhaps.
All is shadey too bad forensic wasn't around then...would love to know the truth 😢
This odd story reminds me of a couple taking a modern day cruise when the wife fell off the balcony. The husband didn't hesitate, he jumped in after her. They were never found but really it would have been better to call man overboard to the Captain so they could mark where she fell. They took 2 days to find out they were even missing!
EXCELLENT ! A GOOD & COMPREHENSIVE STORY , INDEED! PLUS, MOST UNSUAL WAY TOO WITH PHOTOGRAPHS . FROM, U.K. (2024).
Very glad you enjoyed it, thank you so much for your positive feedback!
Morning, to my mind the “old woman “ in the photo looks suspiciously like the missing woman.
@@bobbyvox2352 Exactly! They look identical.
My ears always perk up when I hear Idaho mentioned.
I’m with you Oddie. My first thought was Cole murdered them.
Interesting video👏
I have a feeling that the old woman had something to do with the couples dissapearance. Perhaps she or someone with her lured them to come closer to the shore and killed them, then took their things and just pushed the boat away.🤔
Another things of mystery is who that skeleton was...
Glad you enjoyed it!
THE VERY BEST!!!
Thank you! 🙏
Yes Bessie Hyde was very attractive and her smile in that photograph looked natural to me. Even her husband's smile looked natural. Ive never heard this story prior to this. I think the Kolb bloke had something to do with it especially with the fact that a skeleton with a bullet wound to the temple was found on his property. Yes its a very interesting mystery that makes me want to know more, but i think you covered most of it very well. I still lean towards Kolb. Since no tattered clothing or skeletal remains weren't found they could have been buried somewhere in the wilderness by Kolb.
Thanks for your interesting insights and positive feedback. much appreciated 😊
I believe the obvious story. But have to admit the story of the Kolbs makes me very suspect. Maybe one of their many victims. Sad sorry and very interesting. Thanks Oddy.
Thanks for watching and for your feedback, Donna!
It is possible the last person to see them alive did the deed and walked away; they fell in the rapids; or, perished during a bout of bad weather. Animals would have scattered their bones. But, no one ever found any clothing nor bone fragments? A capsized boat wouldn’t be found right side up with everything intact, would it? One thing for certain sure is, God knows what happened to them. The skeleton found in the boat house may have known what happened to the couple as well. Very sad. Thank you for sharing this couple’s story.
There are so many things that could’ve happened to them, all we can do is conjecture.
Too much time has passed by for this ever to be solved.
Very glad you enjoyed the presentation!
The Kolb brothers were good men, absolute legends at the Canyon. The skeleton in the canoe was already proven to not be Glen Hyde - Emery kept it as a joke and he had also been a mortician. You should read "Over the Edge - Death in Grand Canyon". The book gives a fully investigated account of the Hydes.
OMG, that poem! 😢 Georgie is Bessie! I just know it. With the advances in criminal foresics, they should reopen the case. Check the gun they found at Gerrgie's and the bullet in the dead man in the canoe. If this case hasn't been reviewed since the 70s, well... 🤷🏼♀️☮🌹
As I mentioned during the presentation, Georgie‘s life was well documented - she is definitely not Bessie. They don’t even look alike, Georgie had a slightly hooked nose, while Bessie had a snub nose. It has been proved beyond any doubt that Georgie was not Bessie.
@@ObsoleteOdditysigh! I wish they could solve this. I thought of that young couple a few years ago in America, who were traveling by van and in the mountains of Colorado her boyfriend killed her, then he went home and into the woods in Florida and killed himself. Adventures are cool, but not when they end in mystery and death. Even if these kinds of stories are fodder for couch sleuths. I hope you and Oddette have a great summer. 🙂👍⛱🌹☮
Yeah, me too, such crimes these days are much easier to solve, although not always.
But back then people lost in the wilderness, there was little chance of being found whether they had been murdered or fallen victim to an accident.
Wishing you the same!
Sad story 😭
I'm wondering if it's possible to do some genetic genealogy on the remains found at the Kolb place in order to determine their identity. It might not shed any light on what happened to the Hydes, but would still be interesting.
I thought it was a red flag when kolb lead the search like a valiant leader looking for fallen soldiers! 🤔
They could do forensic genealogy on the skeleton with the bullet hole to find who he was related to. They do it with Jane and John Doe's. It may help answer that question.
We will wait until you return ❤
From where?