I live in Colorado and my college professor was related to her. She would throw rocks at people if they came to close. She really had a sad life at the end. Thanks so much Paul
@@deniseleplatt1616if you remember the year and time of year you took the class (like spring semester/fall/etc) you could totally find out, if your curious to remember your professors’ name.
My family had a cabin in the Colorado Rockies and I grew up hearing about H.A.W. Tabor and Baby Doe. I am now 76. I learned from their story that good times don't last forever and neither do bad times. I remember hearing that her brother wouldn't speak to her because she had broken up Tabor's first marriage (like Tabor had nothing to do with it) but he was happy to go to their parties and benefit from being HAW Tabor's brother-in-law. I was about ten at the time and was outraged at this. People like that still infuriate me. I learned a great deal hearing their story.🇺🇸
They always blame the new wife, as if the man can't make his own choices. Clearly he was unhappy in his previous marriage, for whatever reasons he had. No one likes to get divorced, but staying together when one party is unhappy doesn't make a marriage. We've seen how that had ended with many a man poisoned with arsenic, on this channel 😅
I grew up in Colorado and know Baby Doe's story well. But I love hearing you tell it! If I remember correctly, Molly Brown, the Titanic suvivor, was one of the few Denver socialites to receive Baby Doe socially.
I think the saddest part of this story is that people couldn't seem to find any kindness in their hearts and simply neglected her, including her own daughter. Of course if she was throwing rocks at people...still she might have stopped if someone had persisted in some small way. Maybe calling out a greeting from a safe distance. Very sad.
I grew up in Leadville. One of my first summer jobs (early 90s) was a tour guide at the Matchless Mine. I did the mine shaft and blacksmith shop tours. My mom would drop me off in the mornings. At the end of the day I'd bomb back down East 7th Street on my skateboard back to town/home. I remember, during my lunch breaks, id hike into the woods and sit on a hillside over looking the entire mine. On that same hillside i stumbled upon a Red Fox den with a mom dad and three baby foxes. I would sit and observe the foxes and watch the babies play. Those foxes got pretty comfortable with me by the end of that summer. Just a cool random memory i thought id share ✌️
Lovely memory, foxes are cool little guys, I look after a couple of young ones who were badly stricken by mange, but I got the meds for them and now everyone is amazed when they follow me around the garden and up the street. They remember a good turn.
I'm a Colorado native and have performed in the orchestra in productions, including the premiere, of The Ballad of Baby Doe by Carlisle Floyd at the Central City Opera Festival. Thank you for this thorough and sympathetic account of Baby Doe's life.
I cannot imagine facing those Leadville winters that she survived alone. That city is 2 miles high in elevation and gets FEET of snow when weather hits.
I just adore your story telling, Mr. Brodie. This story is so sad yet so intriguing. Baby Doe obviously loved Tabor so much that she honour his dying wish for the rest of her life. And she proved she was not a gold digger for she stayed at his side even when they lost everything. Such a sad end for Baby Doe.
We visited the one room shack she lived and died in. When we were there, the Matchless hoist to the mine was still there, but the hole was closed off. Thank you for sharing.
I grew up hearing Baby Doe's story from my grandma, who was a tour guide for the state with great interest in history. Thanks for covering this one, Paul. Cheers from Colorado!
I think it's fair to say that a woman who will get into the damn mine and actually dig has definitely earned her share. When good times rolled, she joyfully rolled with them. But when the bad times rolled in, she rolled up her sleeves and got stuck in. She didn't stay in a bad marriage, but when the man she loved hit hard times she stuck to him. I do feel for the children. The older girl having been grown in wealth and ease couldn't deal with such poverty as her Mother was used to from her childhood. The younger stuck to Mum and did her best. But such upset in young lives was bound to have an impact. Sad and ignoble end for such a bold, brave and determined woman. If natural justice existed she'd have ended in a comfortable place where she could sit and tell her tales of travels, mining, of the great gifts life can hand you and how it can all vanish like fairy gold. Sad story sensitively told as always. Nice to wake up to this bright sunny morning. Have a good day everyone!
Poor Baby Doe - she didn't deserve what she experienced in her later life at all. What an admirable woman, to work hard, to persevere, to be so independent, despite all the adversity she faced, and to do so with grace. What a fascinating and enigmatic woman.
I played the role of Augusta Tabor in a performance of The Ballad of Baby Doe for an opera scenes course in college and found this story while doing character research. It’s such an unfortunate story, but also undeniably interesting in historical context. Plus some of those names were wild. Solid vid 💚
The Hollywood film you mentioned is “Silver Dollar” (1932), starring Edward G. Robinson, Bebe Daniels and Aline McMahon. The names are changed and the story fictionalized, but it’s a good movie.
The opera about her life called “The Ballad of Baby Doe” was written by American composer Douglas Moore and includes The Willow Song aria. You can find recordings of it online. Thank you Paul for another sensitive video. Your work and voice and superb. ❤️
Thank you, Paul, for another interesting and poignant story. We should all live by the motto of 'do unto others'. How sad that Baby Doe was judged so harshly and treated so cruely. She did, at least, have the undying love of a good man. Thank you, again, I look forward to next week!
Thank you for this story. I live not far from Leadville and she is definitely a known figure in local.history. A happy and sad story. I visited the Matchless a few years ago. It's a lonely place. I hope she had moments of love and happiness. ❤
I respect her immensely, she didn’t do anything wrong and stayed true to herself, not accepting charity, stood her ground and by her man, lived how she wanted, I feel so sorry for her. She was an incredible woman 👍✌️🙏❤️
Thankyou Paul. What a remarkable women. Societies envy and jealousy is an acrid destructive thing. I often find it interesting, that 'good' Christian people easily assume the role of Jesus.......! Being the judge of others, without considering their own short comings. Forgiveness is a liberating ideal. Until you have to forgive someone. 🤨😳❤
She didn't do Anything wrong, you say. She broke up a marriage not giving a damn about the real wife. I would say that was wrong. What age was, was unwise.
@@HarryMarsee-fw9ot Why is it the womans fault? He was known for cheating well before he met Baby Doe. The marriage wasn't working, and he had tried to get a divorce.
@@kevinmott6205Yes exactly, “take the plank out of your own eye before you take the splinter out of someone else’s “ And how could she break up a marriage that was broken, I find it amazing the way Christian’s blame the woman as if the man had no part…. I thought people were getting wiser to that
@@HarryMarsee-fw9ot So you're ignoring the whole part where Horace was known to be spending time and money on other women while married long before Baby Doe?
I grew up in Colorado and we’d study her in primary and elementary schools. Always loved her gumption, she and Molly brown are the 2 Colorado heroines every school child learned about there
Thank you for making this video. I love history and don't recall ever hearing her story. Very sad but from what I gathered she lived her life the way she wanted which I respect her for.
The story of her kids is tragic too. They had such an advantageous start in life, yet Silver Dollar died mysteriously. He other daughter refused to be associated with the Tabor name. The Tabor name is all over Colorado. Thanks for covering this story. There are more such as the Griffiths sisters of Enily Griffith fame, also Anton Woode.
Oh wow, what a story! I've been living in Colorado for almost 20 years and never heard of her. This story made me feel so emotional.. Thank you for sharing it!
I live in Denver CO. My sister & her first husband, a highly honored graduate from the School of Mines, lived in Leadville for a few years beginning in 1969. They lived above an antique shop which was pretty cool to me at the age of 15. We went into some of the mines with her husband that others weren't allowed to go. Here in Denver we do still have the Molly Brown mansion in Capital Hill.
Thank you for your wonderful show on 21:38 Baby Doe Tabor. I’ve lived in Colorado all my 74 years and she has been a sparkling jewel in Colorado History. She has no equal to this day. Thank you again.
As a 40+ year resident of Denver I'm always delighted to see a slice of our history shared with the world. Thank you for doing a proper job (as always) with Baby Doe's story!
Me too. Maybe it's just the shame she felt for leaving her mom alone. But her mom made a choice to live there in that shed, and she had a right to leave and try to find a better life for herself, instead of chasing her dad's failed dreams.
@@mimsydreams that's what I think. I don't think it was favor of money over her mom. Her mom seemed hell bent on living in squalor. Lily had a right to live happier than that. And who knows if she tried to help her mom but mom refused. It's definitely not cut and dry. Sometimes you have to live for yourself. It seems like a harsh thing, assuming Lily and Doe had a good relationship to begin with. I just can't say she loved money. I think she wanted to live life. And from the sounds of it, Silver Dollar was Doe's favored child anyway. It's a lot to the story that I'm even speculating on. Nothing presented can make me say, "yeah, that was the issue."
I love Leadville but it takes a lot to live there fulltime. I’ve been snowed on in July. It gets really cold in the winter and summer season is short. It is just now getting more accessible but it still can get isolated during the winter. The isolation in the late 1800s and 1900s would most likely mess with you, too. After silver collaspsed, it was a small town with only a coal mine to keep it going. Now, thanks to mtn biking, 14ers, and ultra running people have rediscovered its amazing beauty. Here in the Colorado low country ( just at 6,000 feet) our museum has a bedroom set bought from the Tabors’ Denver house by a local dr who later donated his house for the historical society-Glenwood Springs. All this is to say that listening to tales of people who said they knew her or knew someone who did, BabyDoe seemed to get along with men rather than women, embraced the isolated life, thought that living in a cold shack in a harsh environment was penance for past sins and should be considered good for their souls, and was probably a bit “get off my lawn” crazy to the other locals might have contributed to Lily turning her back on her mom. No excuses for not writing her and supporting her but I can see a reason for Lily needing to distance herself from the circumstance. It has always been a sad story to hear. Molly Brown, who knew society rejection, sided with Augusta, I think.
@@mimsydreams She definitely had her Mother's courage to fight for herself didn't she? Fair play to her, she was right. No need for her to pay her Mother's 'penance''. Poor kid was born and spent many of her formative years soaked in wealth, I doubt she took to poverty well. And as someone else has replied, she wanted A Life and to have that she had to get away from her Mum. Silver Dollar did indeed seem to be the favourite, believed in long after she died. Whole story is sad isn't it?
This story reminds me of "The Unsinkable Molly Brown". Her snd her husband were poor until they hit a vein in Leadville, CO. She was a Titanic survivor, too.
What a terribly, terribly sad last few decades. How people can be so cruel to leave an old woman to loneliness because she had the courage to leave an unhappy marriage
so romantic and sad at the same time. thank you paul im not american so i dont know her, but you have brought her story to life and so keeping her memory alive. great job
This was excellent! I had never heard of Baby Doe. She was the backbone of Colorado. So sad she lost the love of her life and her girls . Poor Silver Dollar. That other girl was not much of a daughter. 😢
I love your input of Colorado places & people! I have laid flowers on both graves, Mt. Olivet is a very large cemetery. The headstones are quite simple. Thank You, Paul!!
She was a better man than I Gunga Din! Wheee this is a new one for me. Even though I completely get into each of your presentations I actually felt this one. It has quite taken a piece of my heart.
Beautiful story. Very saddening. Through stories like this we are keeping the memory of those gone alive. Because the day when noone remembers you is when you are truly gone.
Damn. This one was really sad. I can't imagine how lonely she felt. And for no reason other than others' self-righteous spite. She didn't deserve that.
Her likness is painted on the floor in one of the bars in Central City. I loved going to Central City growing up. I still have a Native American Beaded Necklace my Mom bought me when we went there and I was 4 years old. It was a lot of fun, and we always stopped by the bar to see Baby Doe's painted face on the floor.
❤Thank you for sharing this story. I grew up in Kansas City, MO. There was a restaurant here named after Baby Doe many years ago. It was gone before I was aware of it, and I occasionally wondered about the story behind it. I still don't know who opened it or why, but now I know of the determined woman behind the name. I appreciate her story!
There is an opera called “The Ballad of Baby Doe” that was first performed in 1956 and is one of the few American operas that is still regularly performed by opera companies around the world. I had heard of it but had never listened to a recording of it. Thanks to your informative video I am going to listen to it. Thanks.
What an unusual tale. Almost like a fictional soap opera! The most admirable part is the true love the couple had for each other. (It sounds like Tabor's first marriage had already ended when Baby Doe came along.) What a tragic ending. The best thing you can learn from this is to live within your means and to save, save, invest, and save some more. Don't waste money on diamond diaper pins and dresses sewn with real silver. A fabulous income isn't guaranteed forever. For all of you younger people: We had a time in our thirties when a direct sales business I had joined was doing fantastic. We lived within our means. I could have saved more than I did and wish I had of. But my husband was very wise and invested our money well and kept us living within our means. When the direct sales business I had joined bankrupted after twenty years of success, we have been able to continue to live comfortably, thank the Lord. We've been able to put our five children through college and to stay in our own home. So again, I watched this thinking of all that money the Tabors had that could have lasted them a lifetime and more by living within their means and saving and investing. I really admire my husband who was the financial leader in our family. Just as our business ended, my health took a dramatic downturn and I've lived with chronic pain for 15 years. I also admire my husband for staying by my side and helping me throughout all of the surgeries, etc that I've been through! So yeah, this story reminded me a bit of our life except the ending. We've had a dramatic life financially and health wise, but my husband, God bless him, has kept us financially stable and helped me even when things went south financially and health wise in my life! Young people, no matter what, do your best to live within your means and to save money, and to invest it. There are so many books that can teach and inspire you to save you from having a financial ending like this story!
Mount Olivet, where Baby Doe and Horace are buried, is between Denver and Golden on West 44th Avenue. The Tabors are buried on the southern edge of the older part of the cemetery, above the parking lot of the cemetery office. I've been there many times.
How very sad of a way for her life to end. All alone, freezing. Trying to live a modest life after having lived in such luxury before. I don't know much about her story besides this WIN episode, but she seems to have been a good person who did nothing bad to anyone. Just a victim of circumstances in life. It's too bad her husband was the equivalent of a crypto bro and invested everything in the silver mines, refusing to believe that cash cow had sailed for them.
My family and I have always visited Leadville whenever we’re in Colorado. Many of the Tabor buildings are still around. It’s rapidly turning into a ski resort destination. I very much hope they preserve their history and identity.
What a sad, sad end to an interesting life 😢 Why do people so often point their fingers at others in life, just to realize how awesome they really were, after their death 😮 It goes on even today! Greetings from Denmark 😊
my late Irish-Catholic aunt (Bonnie O'Leary) from Colorado named her two beloved daschunds Baby Doe and Molly Brown (Molly Brown was one of the only socialites who did visit with and become friends with Baby Doe)
The societal structure of those times was designed to honor ‘ old money ‘ and the self important. Such a shame her actions were not regarded over her circumstances.
I ate at Baby Doe's restaurant on my 18th birthday. It had always been the one thing I wanted to do! It was ok, a little overpriced for the quality. But I'll never forget that night! In my head, it was only yesterday. In reality, it was nearly 28 years ago. 😳
I’ve dined at the Baby Doe’s location in Dallas (perhaps three decades ago now) which I believe is the only one still in operation. Fine dining, rather pricey but delicious.
Augusta Tabor was a brave and strong woman, one of the first to live in the mining camps. She was a true partner to Horace until he fell in love with the high life and then with Baby Doe. This version of events (faulting Augusta's "sharp comments and shrewish nature") is a harsh treatment of an iconic and admirable woman. She lived wisely and passed a fortune to her son with Horace...whom he also 21:50 walked out on. He even did his best to cheat Augusta out of her part of their money (so he could buy a 70,000K wedding dress and diamond diaper pins?!) If you think Jeff Bezos was courageous to leave MacKenzie Scott and his kids for Lauren Sanchez, well then, Horace Tabor is your man. Their stories are strikingly similar.
@wendyandmarkpowell884 That's very interesting! I'm not sure if you meant to put this reply under *my* comment, but it's alright! It's always great to hear more information on any given topic, but for me, especially when it comes to history, and even more so when it comes to anything in Denver! I wish I could remember everything from the guided tour we did at the Molly Brown house in downtown Denver, but I think I remember learning about Doe and Tabor history. I do remember the bit about the Post Master General, and about the fact that most of the "high society" folks weren't fond of Miss Doe. Next time I go back home (Denver will always be home, regardless of how long I've not lived there 😊💙🧡), I'm going to convince my little sis to go back again. 😁
I live in Colorado and my college professor was related to her. She would throw rocks at people if they came to close. She really had a sad life at the end. Thanks so much Paul
I'm surprised your professor kept their job with a habit like that
Which professor? I got my BA and MA in history at two colleges in Colorado. Is it one of the Colorado history professors; like Dr Leonard?
@@bunnygirl2448 He taught at Pikes Peak Community College in Colo Springs. It was so long ago that I don't remember his name
@@mairinderk4656😂
@@deniseleplatt1616if you remember the year and time of year you took the class (like spring semester/fall/etc) you could totally find out, if your curious to remember your professors’ name.
My family had a cabin in the Colorado Rockies and I grew up hearing about H.A.W. Tabor and Baby Doe. I am now 76. I learned from their story that good times don't last forever and neither do bad times. I remember hearing that her brother wouldn't speak to her because she had broken up Tabor's first marriage (like Tabor had nothing to do with it) but he was happy to go to their parties and benefit from being HAW Tabor's brother-in-law. I was about ten at the time and was outraged at this. People like that still infuriate me.
I learned a great deal hearing their story.🇺🇸
They always blame the new wife, as if the man can't make his own choices. Clearly he was unhappy in his previous marriage, for whatever reasons he had. No one likes to get divorced, but staying together when one party is unhappy doesn't make a marriage. We've seen how that had ended with many a man poisoned with arsenic, on this channel 😅
😂@@mimsydreams
It seems like women so often get the blame. Even when it’s not our fault or it’s equally our fault.
@mimsydeeams 😂😂
That's not really fair though, because his wife had already left before she came into the picture. He broke up his own marriage.
I grew up in Colorado and know Baby Doe's story well. But I love hearing you tell it! If I remember correctly, Molly Brown, the Titanic suvivor, was one of the few Denver socialites to receive Baby Doe socially.
Molly Brown was also snubbed by the high society as a nouveau riche...
Mommy brown also lived in our near here in Leadville as well if I’m not mistaken. Before her and jj struck it rich
Margaret Brown- her name was never Molly. That has been an insult to her for almost a decade.
Probably because Margaret Brown was also shunned by Denver society.
I think the saddest part of this story is that people couldn't seem to find any kindness in their hearts and simply neglected her, including her own daughter. Of course if she was throwing rocks at people...still she might have stopped if someone had persisted in some small way. Maybe calling out a greeting from a safe distance. Very sad.
If she worked in a haberdashery she probably became a Mad Hatter
@@WVgrl59 😁
I grew up in Leadville. One of my first summer jobs (early 90s) was a tour guide at the Matchless Mine. I did the mine shaft and blacksmith shop tours. My mom would drop me off in the mornings. At the end of the day I'd bomb back down East 7th Street on my skateboard back to town/home. I remember, during my lunch breaks, id hike into the woods and sit on a hillside over looking the entire mine. On that same hillside i stumbled upon a Red Fox den with a mom dad and three baby foxes. I would sit and observe the foxes and watch the babies play. Those foxes got pretty comfortable with me by the end of that summer. Just a cool random memory i thought id share ✌️
Lovely memory, foxes are cool little guys, I look after a couple of young ones who were badly stricken by mange, but I got the meds for them and now everyone is amazed when they follow me around the garden and up the street. They remember a good turn.
Great memory story…brought me with you 😊. Thanks
Thank you for sharing xx
Very cool, thanks for sharing that memeory with us 😊
Why don't more people share random good memories?
I'm a Colorado native and have performed in the orchestra in productions, including the premiere, of The Ballad of Baby Doe by Carlisle Floyd at the Central City Opera Festival.
Thank you for this thorough and sympathetic account of Baby Doe's life.
I was there! You haven't heard Baby Doe until you see it at Central City Opera.
Not Carlisle Floyd. Douglas Moore. And a very fine work.
I cannot imagine facing those Leadville winters that she survived alone. That city is 2 miles high in elevation and gets FEET of snow when weather hits.
Silver Dollar, what a name.
So is Baby Doe. I was like wtf.
@@Presca1Baby Doe was just a nickname
@@barbie3423 She was quite beautiful like her mom. Poor girl.
@@katkat1080and Silver Dollar’s baptism name appears to be Rosemary.
7 is a good name!
I just adore your story telling, Mr. Brodie. This story is so sad yet so intriguing. Baby Doe obviously loved Tabor so much that she honour his dying wish for the rest of her life. And she proved she was not a gold digger for she stayed at his side even when they lost everything. Such a sad end for Baby Doe.
We visited the one room shack she lived and died in. When we were there, the Matchless hoist to the mine was still there, but the hole was closed off. Thank you for sharing.
I grew up hearing Baby Doe's story from my grandma, who was a tour guide for the state with great interest in history. Thanks for covering this one, Paul. Cheers from Colorado!
You make a wonderful travel guide, sir. Even if the tales are grim, you make the trip bearable.
Thank you, Brian ☺
@@WellINever I love listening to you. it may be grim tales, but you handle them with gravitas.
Wow. What a great presentation on a woman I have never heard of. She had a remarkable life, and is indeed someone to be remembered.
A tale of such loneliness, as it turned out, and sad-- so sad!
Thank you for bringing it to us.
It's a GREAT day when we get a story from Paul. ❤
So very true.
Absolutely
An unforgettable story.
THE BALLAD OF BABY DOE is a hauntingly beautiful opera, too.
I think it's fair to say that a woman who will get into the damn mine and actually dig has definitely earned her share. When good times rolled, she joyfully rolled with them. But when the bad times rolled in, she rolled up her sleeves and got stuck in. She didn't stay in a bad marriage, but when the man she loved hit hard times she stuck to him. I do feel for the children. The older girl having been grown in wealth and ease couldn't deal with such poverty as her Mother was used to from her childhood. The younger stuck to Mum and did her best. But such upset in young lives was bound to have an impact.
Sad and ignoble end for such a bold, brave and determined woman. If natural justice existed she'd have ended in a comfortable place where she could sit and tell her tales of travels, mining, of the great gifts life can hand you and how it can all vanish like fairy gold.
Sad story sensitively told as always. Nice to wake up to this bright sunny morning. Have a good day everyone!
Amazing woman indeed !!
Love the Alaska gold rush women of the 1890s also were astonishing ! 🤠💟
I am glad she is known now and remembered despite the very sad end of her life. Lovely work as always Paul ❤
Poor Baby Doe - she didn't deserve what she experienced in her later life at all. What an admirable woman, to work hard, to persevere, to be so independent, despite all the adversity she faced, and to do so with grace. What a fascinating and enigmatic woman.
Sad yet brilliantly narrated story. Thank you kindly ❤
I played the role of Augusta Tabor in a performance of The Ballad of Baby Doe for an opera scenes course in college and found this story while doing character research. It’s such an unfortunate story, but also undeniably interesting in historical context. Plus some of those names were wild. Solid vid 💚
I'm an Australian fan and I'd never heard of Baby Doe. I thank you for telling her story Paul
The Hollywood film you mentioned is “Silver Dollar” (1932), starring Edward G. Robinson, Bebe Daniels and Aline McMahon. The names are changed and the story fictionalized, but it’s a good movie.
Let me guess they made it look like it ended a lot better?
@@Ashley.Michell22 No, Horace and Baby still ended up poor. The movie ends with his death.
The opera about her life called “The Ballad of Baby Doe” was written by American composer Douglas Moore and includes The Willow Song aria.
You can find recordings of it online.
Thank you Paul for another sensitive video. Your work and voice and superb. ❤️
Thank you Mr brodie for a fantastic video it's amazing how much time as changed you Mr brodie are a star I love your stories xx
What a sad story! Thank you
Thank you, Paul, for another interesting and poignant story. We should all live by the motto of 'do unto others'. How sad that Baby Doe was judged so harshly and treated so cruely. She did, at least, have the undying love of a good man. Thank you, again, I look forward to next week!
Thank you for this story. I live not far from Leadville and she is definitely a known figure in local.history. A happy and sad story. I visited the Matchless a few years ago. It's a lonely place. I hope she had moments of love and happiness. ❤
I'm here for any story you've got to tell. It was a breath of fresh air. ❤
I respect her immensely, she didn’t do anything wrong and stayed true to herself, not accepting charity, stood her ground and by her man, lived how she wanted, I feel so sorry for her. She was an incredible woman 👍✌️🙏❤️
Thankyou Paul. What a remarkable women. Societies envy and jealousy is an acrid destructive thing. I often find it interesting, that 'good' Christian people easily assume the role of Jesus.......! Being the judge of others, without considering their own short comings. Forgiveness is a liberating ideal. Until you have to forgive someone. 🤨😳❤
She didn't do Anything wrong, you say. She broke up a marriage not giving a damn about the real wife. I would say that was wrong. What age was, was unwise.
@@HarryMarsee-fw9ot Why is it the womans fault? He was known for cheating well before he met Baby Doe. The marriage wasn't working, and he had tried to get a divorce.
@@kevinmott6205Yes exactly, “take the plank out of your own eye before you take the splinter out of someone else’s “
And how could she break up a marriage that was broken, I find it amazing the way Christian’s blame the woman as if the man had no part…. I thought people were getting wiser to that
@@HarryMarsee-fw9ot So you're ignoring the whole part where Horace was known to be spending time and money on other women while married long before Baby Doe?
Wow, this woman was a warrior. Thank you for the upload.
This is a sad story. She seemed like a strong and capable woman. Thank you for sharing.
I grew up in Colorado and we’d study her in primary and elementary schools. Always loved her gumption, she and Molly brown are the 2 Colorado heroines every school child learned about there
She was from Wisconsin, not Colorado.
Thank you for making this video. I love history and don't recall ever hearing her story. Very sad but from what I gathered she lived her life the way she wanted which I respect her for.
The story of her kids is tragic too. They had such an advantageous start in life, yet Silver Dollar died mysteriously. He other daughter refused to be associated with the Tabor name.
The Tabor name is all over Colorado.
Thanks for covering this story. There are more such as the Griffiths sisters of Enily Griffith fame, also Anton Woode.
Oh wow, what a story! I've been living in Colorado for almost 20 years and never heard of her. This story made me feel so emotional.. Thank you for sharing it!
I live in Denver CO. My sister & her first husband, a highly honored graduate from the School of Mines, lived in Leadville for a few years beginning in 1969. They lived above an antique shop which was pretty cool to me at the age of 15. We went into some of the mines with her husband that others weren't allowed to go. Here in Denver we do still have the Molly Brown mansion in Capital Hill.
Fascinating as always, thank you again and regards.
Thank you for this Amazing Story, Paul. Incredible woman she was. Very sad but She finally got her recognition only much too late. RIP Baby Doe
Thanks!
Thank you once again, Brian 😊 Very grateful 🙏
I love it when you cover Colorado cases! 🖤 Fun fact: Leadville is the highest city in the US with an elevation of 10,158 ft
There's sooo many! The origins of Norman Bates hotel came from Colorado.
@@robbobsjobs8456 is it the Stanley? I haven't heard that before
I visited her cabin in Leadville. Her story fascinated me as a kid
Thank you for your wonderful show on 21:38 Baby Doe Tabor. I’ve lived in Colorado all my 74 years and she has been a sparkling jewel in Colorado History. She has no equal to this day.
Thank you again.
This is the craziest life story I’ve ever heard!
There were many wild lives in the Gold Rush.
Baby Doe sounds like a great lady. A never explain, never complain lady.
What a sad story, but fascinating. Thanks for telling it.
As a 40+ year resident of Denver I'm always delighted to see a slice of our history shared with the world. Thank you for doing a proper job (as always) with Baby Doe's story!
Wonder what Lily's problem was? She loved money more than her mother? How sad. Great story, Paul.
Me too. Maybe it's just the shame she felt for leaving her mom alone. But her mom made a choice to live there in that shed, and she had a right to leave and try to find a better life for herself, instead of chasing her dad's failed dreams.
@@mimsydreams that's what I think. I don't think it was favor of money over her mom. Her mom seemed hell bent on living in squalor.
Lily had a right to live happier than that. And who knows if she tried to help her mom but mom refused. It's definitely not cut and dry.
Sometimes you have to live for yourself. It seems like a harsh thing, assuming Lily and Doe had a good relationship to begin with.
I just can't say she loved money. I think she wanted to live life. And from the sounds of it, Silver Dollar was Doe's favored child anyway.
It's a lot to the story that I'm even speculating on. Nothing presented can make me say, "yeah, that was the issue."
I love Leadville but it takes a lot to live there fulltime. I’ve been snowed on in July. It gets really cold in the winter and summer season is short. It is just now getting more accessible but it still can get isolated during the winter. The isolation in the late 1800s and 1900s would most likely mess with you, too. After silver collaspsed, it was a small town with only a coal mine to keep it going. Now, thanks to mtn biking, 14ers, and ultra running people have rediscovered its amazing beauty. Here in the Colorado low country ( just at 6,000 feet) our museum has a bedroom set bought from the Tabors’ Denver house by a local dr who later donated his house for the historical society-Glenwood Springs.
All this is to say that listening to tales of people who said they knew her or knew someone who did, BabyDoe seemed to get along with men rather than women, embraced the isolated life, thought that living in a cold shack in a harsh environment was penance for past sins and should be considered good for their souls, and was probably a bit “get off my lawn” crazy to the other locals might have contributed to Lily turning her back on her mom. No excuses for not writing her and supporting her but I can see a reason for Lily needing to distance herself from the circumstance. It has always been a sad story to hear.
Molly Brown, who knew society rejection, sided with Augusta, I think.
@@mimsydreams She definitely had her Mother's courage to fight for herself didn't she? Fair play to her, she was right. No need for her to pay her Mother's 'penance''. Poor kid was born and spent many of her formative years soaked in wealth, I doubt she took to poverty well. And as someone else has replied, she wanted A Life and to have that she had to get away from her Mum. Silver Dollar did indeed seem to be the favourite, believed in long after she died. Whole story is sad isn't it?
Imagine a Catholic lady feeling so guilty about former wealth, when the pope in Rome lives in such obscene opulence.
This story reminds me of "The Unsinkable Molly Brown". Her snd her husband were poor until they hit a vein in Leadville, CO. She was a Titanic survivor, too.
What a terribly, terribly sad last few decades. How people can be so cruel to leave an old woman to loneliness because she had the courage to leave an unhappy marriage
Such a sad story.
Paul you guys always on point with these videos much appreciated my friend
Thank you for another wonderful and informative video.
so romantic and sad at the same time. thank you paul im not american so i dont know her, but you have brought her story to life and so keeping her memory alive. great job
It’s also entirely possible she has dementia or
Alzheimer’s at her age and that’s why people thought her crazy
Plus, grief and loneliness
She was also a haberdasher in Leadville which makes me think there was also lead and mercury exposure in her youth.
She was a hard worker. I have great respect for that 🫡
This was excellent! I had never heard of Baby Doe. She was the backbone of Colorado. So sad she lost the love of her life and her girls . Poor Silver Dollar. That other girl was not much of a daughter. 😢
Thank you for another video
An inspiring and tragic story of one of our most notable women here in Colorado
Amazing story, really well told! Thank you!!!
I like all the pic.s you had there! Very good presentation!
I love your input of Colorado places & people! I have laid flowers on both graves, Mt. Olivet is a very large cemetery. The headstones are quite simple. Thank You, Paul!!
She was a better man than I Gunga Din! Wheee this is a new one for me. Even though I completely get into each of your presentations I actually felt this one. It has quite taken a piece of my heart.
Same here. I kept hoping to hear, even to the very end, that her devotion to her dead husband paid off and the mine proved to be valuable.
Beautiful story. Very saddening. Through stories like this we are keeping the memory of those gone alive.
Because the day when noone remembers you is when you are truly gone.
Damn. This one was really sad. I can't imagine how lonely she felt. And for no reason other than others' self-righteous spite. She didn't deserve that.
So sad, but a very strong woman I’m glad she found such great love. Bless her
Wow, great story.
Another fascinating story Paul. Thank you. Great channel. Keep them coming Sir
Oh wow!! Cool stories everyone.
I recently moved to Colorado and love learning the history of this beautiful state
FINALLY found this channel again
Her likness is painted on the floor in one of the bars in Central City. I loved going to Central City growing up. I still have a Native American Beaded Necklace my Mom bought me when we went there and I was 4 years old. It was a lot of fun, and we always stopped by the bar to see Baby Doe's painted face on the floor.
❤Thank you for sharing this story. I grew up in Kansas City, MO. There was a restaurant here named after Baby Doe many years ago. It was gone before I was aware of it, and I occasionally wondered about the story behind it. I still don't know who opened it or why, but now I know of the determined woman behind the name. I appreciate her story!
There is an opera called “The Ballad of Baby Doe” that was first performed in 1956 and is one of the few American operas that is still regularly performed by opera companies around the world. I had heard of it but had never listened to a recording of it. Thanks to your informative video I am going to listen to it. Thanks.
Excellent video. Thank you.
So sad, such a hardworking and loyal woman.
I loved this story! I live in Denver so it’s nice to hear more history
Nobody does these stories better.
Thank you
That was really interesting. I lived and worked in Leadville in the mid 80's. Thank you Paul.
What an unusual tale. Almost like a fictional soap opera! The most admirable part is the true love the couple had for each other. (It sounds like Tabor's first marriage had already ended when Baby Doe came along.)
What a tragic ending. The best thing you can learn from this is to live within your means and to save, save, invest, and save some more. Don't waste money on diamond diaper pins and dresses sewn with real silver. A fabulous income isn't guaranteed forever. For all of you younger people:
We had a time in our thirties when a direct sales business I had joined was doing fantastic. We lived within our means. I could have saved more than I did and wish I had of. But my husband was very wise and invested our money well and kept us living within our means. When the direct sales business I had joined bankrupted after twenty years of success, we have been able to continue to live comfortably, thank the Lord. We've been able to put our five children through college and to stay in our own home. So again, I watched this thinking of all that money the Tabors had that could have lasted them a lifetime and more by living within their means and saving and investing. I really admire my husband who was the financial leader in our family. Just as our business ended, my health took a dramatic downturn and I've lived with chronic pain for 15 years. I also admire my husband for staying by my side and helping me throughout all of the surgeries, etc that I've been through!
So yeah, this story reminded me a bit of our life except the ending. We've had a dramatic life financially and health wise, but my husband, God bless him, has kept us financially stable and helped me even when things went south financially and health wise in my life!
Young people, no matter what, do your best to live within your means and to save money, and to invest it. There are so many books that can teach and inspire you to save you from having a financial ending like this story!
Mount Olivet, where Baby Doe and Horace are buried, is between Denver and Golden on West 44th Avenue. The Tabors are buried on the southern edge of the older part of the cemetery, above the parking lot of the cemetery office. I've been there many times.
Thank you❤❤❤❤
She was a woman ahead of her time ❤
Indeed. Most women seem mad these days.
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Thanks for the upload, Paul.
How very sad of a way for her life to end. All alone, freezing. Trying to live a modest life after having lived in such luxury before. I don't know much about her story besides this WIN episode, but she seems to have been a good person who did nothing bad to anyone. Just a victim of circumstances in life.
It's too bad her husband was the equivalent of a crypto bro and invested everything in the silver mines, refusing to believe that cash cow had sailed for them.
There are quite a few interesting stories set in Colorado on the mining era
I can just imagine that sailing cow...lol
My family and I have always visited Leadville whenever we’re in Colorado. Many of the Tabor buildings are still around. It’s rapidly turning into a ski resort destination. I very much hope they preserve their history and identity.
What a sad, sad end to an interesting life 😢 Why do people so often point their fingers at others in life, just to realize how awesome they really were, after their death 😮 It goes on even today! Greetings from Denmark 😊
Life is rough..ups and downs heart break and true love...sad to remember when you were once happy
Went to a restaurant in Dallas named after her. Nice to finally know the history.
Captivating narration by a captivating gent.
Fascinating, and well presented, as ever. Many thanks for sharing your work x
Inspiring! Im glad they knew real love in their lifetimes.
What an interesting story. Thank you!
Well done. Familiar with her since ive been in Colorado since 1949. You added some facts I didn't know.
Sad Sad Story. Thank you sir for bringing it to life as you do all your stories!!!
my late Irish-Catholic aunt (Bonnie O'Leary) from Colorado named her two beloved daschunds Baby Doe and Molly Brown (Molly Brown was one of the only socialites who did visit with and become friends with Baby Doe)
Baby Doe's Matchless Mine was my favorite restaurant in Dallas. I never knew the story. Thank you.
Thank you for another great story 🙏
The societal structure of those times was designed to honor ‘ old money ‘ and the self important. Such a shame her actions were not regarded over her circumstances.
I ate at Baby Doe's restaurant on my 18th birthday. It had always been the one thing I wanted to do! It was ok, a little overpriced for the quality. But I'll never forget that night! In my head, it was only yesterday. In reality, it was nearly 28 years ago. 😳
I’ve dined at the Baby Doe’s location in Dallas (perhaps three decades ago now) which I believe is the only one still in operation. Fine dining, rather pricey but delicious.
Augusta Tabor was a brave and strong woman, one of the first to live in the mining camps. She was a true partner to Horace until he fell in love with the high life and then with Baby Doe. This version of events (faulting Augusta's "sharp comments and shrewish nature") is a harsh treatment of an iconic and admirable woman. She lived wisely and passed a fortune to her son with Horace...whom he also 21:50 walked out on. He even did his best to cheat Augusta out of her part of their money (so he could buy a 70,000K wedding dress and diamond diaper pins?!)
If you think Jeff Bezos was courageous to leave MacKenzie Scott and his kids for Lauren Sanchez, well then, Horace Tabor is your man. Their stories are strikingly similar.
@wendyandmarkpowell884 That's very interesting! I'm not sure if you meant to put this reply under *my* comment, but it's alright! It's always great to hear more information on any given topic, but for me, especially when it comes to history, and even more so when it comes to anything in Denver! I wish I could remember everything from the guided tour we did at the Molly Brown house in downtown Denver, but I think I remember learning about Doe and Tabor history. I do remember the bit about the Post Master General, and about the fact that most of the "high society" folks weren't fond of Miss Doe. Next time I go back home (Denver will always be home, regardless of how long I've not lived there 😊💙🧡), I'm going to convince my little sis to go back again. 😁