‼UPDATE FOR ADOBE AUDITION USERS ‼- I have made it easier than ever before to work with tricky audio. My brand new audio presets are out now. One click to GREAT sound :) Check them out here: mrc.fm/presets This is a great way for you to support my channel too 🙏🙏🙏
Mike Russell, you have done it for me again! Thanks a bunch for putting out such great advise for people like me, who some times desperately need a quick fix for a very specific audio related challenge. Thanks for always being on point - never too much rambling. Keep it up!
It didn't work at all, and it didn't seem to work for anybody else either, probably because we don't see the point of buying £5,000 microphones. Disliked.
The reason it doesn't sound different it because he's doing noise (hiss) removal instead of reverb removal. You can buy plugins for reverb removal, but Premiere/ Audition 2020 comes with it as standard (called DeReverb). The parametric equaliser trick he does can help sometimes, but compressors tend to make reverb sound worse.
This is something I need frequently. What I don't understand in your video is what you heard when using the two parametric eqs. What did you hear that told you those were the pesky frequencies. Was it the volume of those frequencies or was it some quality of the sound that you heard? *EDIT:* I went back and tried to hear what you heard. I thought those two spots had kind of a hollow quality. Is that what you heard? (This is the most important part of any tutorial for me. That is pointing out what quality you are focusing on. This is the more important part of learning from an expert. I do video editing and in the tutorials on, for example, color correction, the instructor seldom is very specific on why he/she chooses the changes being made. "That's the art," is often said or "Make it look they way you want it." What I want to know is what this particular artist likes and why.) Thanks for all your great tutorials. I watch them all the time and always give a _like_.
Yes it's the hollow spots. If you're listening to your playback on room monitor speakers and not headphones, those audio frequencies might actually pierce the threshhold (think nails on a blackboard). You'll generally know it right away. If you have to do a sweep in a quiet listening environment, you can also ways the audio levels; bad frequencies always spike isolated from the good ones.
I noticed the improvement. Thanks so much for the tips. I am the "listener techie" for some livestreams done in a huge and echoey hall... Hopefully we will nip the echo in the bud!
Yea, having a huge issue with some audio I recorded, didn't hear the echo reduced in this clip. The parametric eq doesn't seem to do it, even though there are tons of tutorials on it, the clips don't change that much.
I tend to shy away from anything like this. No matter how much you dial it in, you still hear the background noise while the person is talking, it's very apparent that it goes away when the person isn't talking. I think this is actually more distracting than if the static is there the whole time. You're literally grabbing the listener's attention, pointing to the steep difference in static. For this, I find it's just better to just denoise. Do it to the point that the person speaking still sounds the same. If you have multiple tracks, it's much better to denoise each track that needs it, rather than working with all tracks through a bus. The different vocals are usually quite different from one another when it comes to background noise.
Is there a way to remove the type of echo that you get from a microphone recording to video? This and other tutorials are touching on the spatial room echo. I haven't found a video to resolve my particular issue. Any help is appreciated.
While I couldn't notice much difference in the audio here, I still tried it on one of my audio files and it worked perfectly. The difference was noticeable and the parametric equalizer really helped, thank you
Of course the aim is that you'd never record in an evironment that creates the unwated echo. Much easier to add echo/reverb in post that to try and remove unwatend echo/reverb.
Hi Mike I work for the police here in the UK, as you can imagine the audio I get to play with is not the best by any means. I have listened to a lot of your podcasts,and believe me, I have made a positive impression on these recordings from body cameras (being the worst) and interviews.Thanks for your help keep up the good work. If you get hold of any thing like this please let me know. Regards Paul
Hi Paul, thank you for your kind words and for sharing your experiences with audio editing. It's great to hear that your content has been helpful for the police force in the UK. If you have any questions or need assistance feel free to ask.
I have found that you have many ways of noise reduction. You just have to find the one that suits your needs the best. I sometimes get audio that has a duddling up on the voice, bit like an echo, this is hard to get rid of Any suggestions? Paul
You are not capturing the room sound on a quiet part. As a room just doesn't magically create noise by itself, you need a sound that will bounce of the walls, hence the only thing you do capture is the microphone noise, which you then can remove with the Noise reduction process. I'm not doing a whole lot of video audio as I normally work with music, but I have found that Adobe doesn't provide any actually useful reverb removal. Both audition and premiere introduce more phasing problems than removing the reverb, it usually only works on very very low reverb that almost is not a problem, so in most cases where you'd actually need it, its useless. Izotope RX7 for instance does a way better job at this, and is good for isolating other sources against others aswell. Like removing vocals from a song for instance. Accusonus ERA 4 Also is a very good option.
Omg thank you!! I had this crazy noise at the beginning of a voice clip and everything else I tried just made it worse. Your tip to use the parametric equalizer completely eliminated it. Thank you thank you!!
He moves too fast and assumes the people watching knows something about audio. I wish this tutorial was done keeping in mind that the people watching probably knows nothing about audio and explain in detail what each terminology involved in the video does and how it affects the audio overall. so, when you make certain changes, this is what to expect or not expect.
Thanks so much for the feedback. There are some more beginner videos on my channel. I'll be sure to slow down some more on future tutorials of this type. Thanks!
Wow! Wonderful. Is there any option to remove a "Echo" that came from a duplicate audio-track? I've recorded everything fine, but have a echo of one track because i've routed it back ... so the sound of one person on my track is there two times ... with a few miliseconds seperated ... :-(
Y'all gotta watch these videos with headphones, neutralized or noise cancelling. Your speakers will not allow you to hear the difference, I thought this was a great video for those specific room echo annoyances. Thank you @MikeRussell
The way to get that is to record in a suitable acoustically treated room. You have to accept that removing reverb/room tone/echo that’s been recorded will degrade the quality of the audio.
If audio quality is paramount and the audio is full of room reverb then I'd suggest re-recording in an acoustically treated environment would be the best option unless you are happy to accept some degredation in the audio quality using Dereverb.
For some reason, every time your videos recommend using "Capture Noise Print" and "Noise Reduction(Process)" I do what you do in the clip and it NEVER shows any marks on the graph (the noise floor) and no amount of toggling or adjusting effects in the window do anything to alter the sound of the clip. Is there some preference or preset I need turned on to make this work?
I already had the thought that you didn't have a clue about what you were doing. After the final compression I had to stop this joke of a tutorial you did. You heavily denoised it, comb filtered it to death, boosted high frequency noises back into the audible zone, then compressed it just to bring more reverb back into it. Good job.
Hi, watching this quite late. Maybe people didn't hear a difference, but I did after editing my own audio. Thank you Mike for this video, it saved me from having to rerecord everything!
My affect didnt apply to my multitrack mixdown session so im a little confused, I definetly notice a difference in the audio in waveform but when I got to multitrack mixdown theirs no difference
I've been using Audacity, not Audition, but his helped me a lot in understanding where to find the frequency for the echo. I wasn't able to remove all of it, but did get rid of a large percentage of it with noise reduction and a bit more by tinkering with the gain at higher frequencies. The latter seems to be more effective if I go piece by piece through the audio, as the same settings didn't work for the entire thing.
Hi, this is an old video and if you're using Audacity it's the best way to achieve this still but since this was made Audition has now included a DeReverb facility.
CoolEditPro2.0 -> Audition is my app of choice. But too much NR creates chirping sound, too much parametric EQ makes robot sound as well. I never put thoose naughty bands to -15, as it is worse than before. A good duck compression also helps with echo. After all is done, some grain should be added to mask missing info (mastering tools).
I've just noticed that the latest version of Audition (which i do not use very often tbh) has the 'DeReverb' effect - it's a perfect last step to the process you've just described. Thanks for the video!
Thanks. I need to do this all the time with crappy camera mics. How would you add a little more punch to this audio? I edit promos and I need that audio to really hit the audience. Can you show us how you would do that? Thanks.
Excellent tutorial that saved my bacon. I had to switch to recording my TH-cam work with a single Zoom H4N and your detail about Spectral Decay saved me from sounding echoey. Thank you Mike!
‼UPDATE FOR ADOBE AUDITION USERS ‼- I have made it easier than ever before to work with tricky audio. My brand new audio presets are out now. One click to GREAT sound :) Check them out here: mrc.fm/presets This is a great way for you to support my channel too 🙏🙏🙏
I did not notice any difference.
lol glad I'm not the only one
Likewise. I still heard a lot of echo, too. And his narration sounds amazing, so he clearly knows what he's doing.
Me too....this is the wrong way to try to remove the echo... The only way is to use a Dereverb plugin...Izotope has a good one.
Same here.. After that much processing, I frankly expected the voice like in this video..
He has that quality because if his recording equipment ...not because of his editing skills.
Thank you! I just did a 20 minute commentary and noticed the audio sounded way worse than normal...Not sure why...But this fixed it right up!
Plz i can send mp3 to u ?
You can hire a producer to work on your project if you want? musicradiocreative.com/contact
Other than the noise being removed, I don't hear a difference in echo other than volume increase.
Maaan, wtf?!? That sounds even WORSE than before!
i can't hear a difference in the end result and original. but the first thing he did actually did make it better, for a while.
Am I the only one who does NOT hear a freaking difference?!
Yes, you are the only one, my friend. The Chosen One.
He is using a worst case example, if you use this on a decent recording, it works perfectly.
I am glad I am not the only one that didn't hear any difference at all
I didn't notice any difference (still heard lots of echo in the final) and have no clue what you were looking for when fishing in the EQ. Bummer.
He had NO clue. Never cut 15 dB like that, plus not in that freq range
I like the way you cut freq on the eq and just then boost the same freqs. :3
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Mike Russell, you have done it for me again! Thanks a bunch for putting out such great advise for people like me, who some times desperately need a quick fix for a very specific audio related challenge. Thanks for always being on point - never too much rambling. Keep it up!
It didn't work at all, and it didn't seem to work for anybody else either, probably because we don't see the point of buying £5,000 microphones. Disliked.
It's pretty good, but nowadays the AI powered reverb removal is miles ahead of this method!
Thanks for your feedback! AI-powered tools are definitely awesome!
Good morning is there's anything you can do to remove some people taking in background during a person speech.
Good tutorial, shitty audio example. Still helpful anyway.
1:04
Guy : Let's pump this up so we can hear it
Sountrack : *ABSOLUTE SILENCE*
Guy : Yeah a lot of background noise
Ha ha!
Will this process work if I want to remove reverb from lets say Celine Dion vocals for "The Power of love" ??
That's an intentionally added reverb so the chances are the audio would end up such poor quality it wouldn't be usable for anything..
why i do not see EQ (moving) when press play in Parametric equalizer?
I have the same problem. Please, help us!
Same as you
The reason it doesn't sound different it because he's doing noise (hiss) removal instead of reverb removal. You can buy plugins for reverb removal, but Premiere/ Audition 2020 comes with it as standard (called DeReverb).
The parametric equaliser trick he does can help sometimes, but compressors tend to make reverb sound worse.
This is something I need frequently. What I don't understand in your video is what you heard when using the two parametric eqs. What did you hear that told you those were the pesky frequencies. Was it the volume of those frequencies or was it some quality of the sound that you heard?
*EDIT:* I went back and tried to hear what you heard. I thought those two spots had kind of a hollow quality. Is that what you heard?
(This is the most important part of any tutorial for me. That is pointing out what quality you are focusing on. This is the more important part of learning from an expert. I do video editing and in the tutorials on, for example, color correction, the instructor seldom is very specific on why he/she chooses the changes being made. "That's the art," is often said or "Make it look they way you want it." What I want to know is what this particular artist likes and why.)
Thanks for all your great tutorials. I watch them all the time and always give a _like_.
Yes it's the hollow spots. If you're listening to your playback on room monitor speakers and not headphones, those audio frequencies might actually pierce the threshhold (think nails on a blackboard). You'll generally know it right away. If you have to do a sweep in a quiet listening environment, you can also ways the audio levels; bad frequencies always spike isolated from the good ones.
I'm sad he never replied (but not surprised). I really wanted to know what he heard. Thanks Simbarashe for replying.
Awesome advice!! May I ask which software you use for layering on your video of you on top in the front there?
ScreenFlow is the best way mrc.fm/screenflow
sa m'a vraiment bocou aidé
Thanks!
in this video you look like jesse pinkman from breaking bad
I noticed the improvement. Thanks so much for the tips. I am the "listener techie" for some livestreams done in a huge and echoey hall... Hopefully we will nip the echo in the bud!
una cagada no saber ingles, pero vi tus movimientos y estoy fascinado amigo, Gracias
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Sir pleass how to find SNR in adob adution
Yea, having a huge issue with some audio I recorded, didn't hear the echo reduced in this clip. The parametric eq doesn't seem to do it, even though there are tons of tutorials on it, the clips don't change that much.
I have the same problem with you and it's wierd because I used the same headphone during recording and when editing.
Try the new DeReverb effect in Audition CC 2019.
Well that didn't work at all...
too much complicated and no improvement ! EQ equalizer; How can u know this is a bad freq ??? that's the core of the videos and u skiped it !
That’s something your hearing will tell you.
thanks
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I'm sorry, I think the tutorial is very useful but I don't see any difference between the final file and the original one. Thank you anyway
I tend to shy away from anything like this. No matter how much you dial it in, you still hear the background noise while the person is talking, it's very apparent that it goes away when the person isn't talking. I think this is actually more distracting than if the static is there the whole time. You're literally grabbing the listener's attention, pointing to the steep difference in static. For this, I find it's just better to just denoise. Do it to the point that the person speaking still sounds the same. If you have multiple tracks, it's much better to denoise each track that needs it, rather than working with all tracks through a bus. The different vocals are usually quite different from one another when it comes to background noise.
Bruh! brutal madness Thanks
Is there a way to remove the type of echo that you get from a microphone recording to video? This and other tutorials are touching on the spatial room echo. I haven't found a video to resolve my particular issue. Any help is appreciated.
The best way to remove echo is to make sure you're recording in an acoustically suitable area
I don't see improvement, my 170 USD AT2020 Audio-Technica microphone is a real SHIT. Never buy that !
Investing in a good microphone is a key really!
that is not echo. my god. youtube is full of people giving random info, pretending be professionals. holy fuck.
Thanks.
I turned 18 when this video came out. Fun fact that I know everyone will care about. ;)
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While I couldn't notice much difference in the audio here, I still tried it on one of my audio files and it worked perfectly. The difference was noticeable and the parametric equalizer really helped, thank you
Glad to have helped
I agree, it sounds better. Still sounds as if you placed the mic on the other side of the bathroom
Of course the aim is that you'd never record in an evironment that creates the unwated echo. Much easier to add echo/reverb in post that to try and remove unwatend echo/reverb.
Whats your headphone?
its noise removal not echo
THE ECHO STILL Exists you just removed the noise
Will need to work harder? 😊
Hi Mike
I work for the police here in the UK, as you can imagine the audio I get to play with is not the best by any means. I have listened to a lot of your podcasts,and believe me, I have made a positive impression on these recordings from body cameras (being the worst) and interviews.Thanks for your help keep up the good work.
If you get hold of any thing like
this please let me know.
Regards
Paul
Hi Paul, thank you for your kind words and for sharing your experiences with audio editing. It's great to hear that your content has been helpful for the police force in the UK. If you have any questions or need assistance feel free to ask.
I have found that you have many ways of noise reduction. You just have to find the one that suits your needs the best.
I sometimes get audio that has a duddling up on the voice, bit like an echo, this is hard to get rid of
Any suggestions?
Paul
This guy clearly does not know wtf he is doing
Thank you for your feedback. I do work to provide accurate and helpful information to assist with editing in Adobe Audition.
Very Helpful! Thank you so much!
You don't know how much this just helped me, thank you so much for the lesson!
You are not capturing the room sound on a quiet part. As a room just doesn't magically create noise by itself, you need a sound that will bounce of the walls, hence the only thing you do capture is the microphone noise, which you then can remove with the Noise reduction process.
I'm not doing a whole lot of video audio as I normally work with music, but I have found that Adobe doesn't provide any actually useful reverb removal. Both audition and premiere introduce more phasing problems than removing the reverb, it usually only works on very very low reverb that almost is not a problem, so in most cases where you'd actually need it, its useless. Izotope RX7 for instance does a way better job at this, and is good for isolating other sources against others aswell. Like removing vocals from a song for instance. Accusonus ERA 4 Also is a very good option.
Omg thank you!! I had this crazy noise at the beginning of a voice clip and everything else I tried just made it worse. Your tip to use the parametric equalizer completely eliminated it. Thank you thank you!!
Thank you so much, Carrie!
This doesn't teach what was promised.
How not? 🤷♂️
Can you do one video for audacity
Thanks!!!
How did you get the notch in the equalizer? When I open it I see several points marked along the line.
I watched one of your other videos and found the answer! Thanks very much.
Glad you got things sorted Neil. Never be afraid to ask any question on this channel.
Hi, i need remove the audio who say created in free version for non commercial use audition, what can i do, Thanks
He moves too fast and assumes the people watching knows something about audio. I wish this tutorial was done keeping in mind that the people watching probably knows nothing about audio and explain in detail what each terminology involved in the video does and how it affects the audio overall. so, when you make certain changes, this is what to expect or not expect.
Thanks so much for the feedback. There are some more beginner videos on my channel. I'll be sure to slow down some more on future tutorials of this type. Thanks!
@@MikeRussell thank you for your consideration
Wow! Wonderful. Is there any option to remove a "Echo" that came from a duplicate audio-track? I've recorded everything fine, but have a echo of one track because i've routed it back ... so the sound of one person on my track is there two times ... with a few miliseconds seperated ... :-(
Hi, you can try DeReverb in Adobe Audition to try and remove the unwanted echo.
Y'all gotta watch these videos with headphones, neutralized or noise cancelling. Your speakers will not allow you to hear the difference, I thought this was a great video for those specific room echo annoyances. Thank you @MikeRussell
GRACIAS POR TANTO!!!!
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improvement was there but it's not enough to be honest. Your voice sound of your commentary should be the aim.
The way to get that is to record in a suitable acoustically treated room. You have to accept that removing reverb/room tone/echo that’s been recorded will degrade the quality of the audio.
@@MikeRussell so, would you suggest ti simpley re-record the voiceover instead of trying to edit in post?
If audio quality is paramount and the audio is full of room reverb then I'd suggest re-recording in an acoustically treated environment would be the best option unless you are happy to accept some degredation in the audio quality using Dereverb.
For some reason, every time your videos recommend using "Capture Noise Print" and "Noise Reduction(Process)" I do what you do in the clip and it NEVER shows any marks on the graph (the noise floor) and no amount of toggling or adjusting effects in the window do anything to alter the sound of the clip. Is there some preference or preset I need turned on to make this work?
So-so. Your starting audio was pretty good, so didn't really feel a huge transformation.
Really helpful, thanks.
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Good Job
Thank you
How do you feel about using a De-verberation VST in a scenario like this one? Downside? Thanks!
thank u helped me a lot
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I already had the thought that you didn't have a clue about what you were doing. After the final compression I had to stop this joke of a tutorial you did. You heavily denoised it, comb filtered it to death, boosted high frequency noises back into the audible zone, then compressed it just to bring more reverb back into it. Good job.
Thanks, there are so many different ways to approach this. I appreciate your feedback.
Hi, watching this quite late. Maybe people didn't hear a difference, but I did after editing my own audio. Thank you Mike for this video, it saved me from having to rerecord everything!
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My affect didnt apply to my multitrack mixdown session so im a little confused, I definetly notice a difference in the audio in waveform but when I got to multitrack mixdown theirs no difference
Great one for the community here: community.musicradiocreative.com/
I want to thank you, your videos have shot the sound quality of my work up by several degrees of magnitude. I deeply appreciate it.
Thanks Bruce 🙏
I've been using Audacity, not Audition, but his helped me a lot in understanding where to find the frequency for the echo. I wasn't able to remove all of it, but did get rid of a large percentage of it with noise reduction and a bit more by tinkering with the gain at higher frequencies. The latter seems to be more effective if I go piece by piece through the audio, as the same settings didn't work for the entire thing.
Hi, this is an old video and if you're using Audacity it's the best way to achieve this still but since this was made Audition has now included a DeReverb facility.
Fantastic tutorial.
Thanks
CoolEditPro2.0 -> Audition is my app of choice. But too much NR creates chirping sound, too much parametric EQ makes robot sound as well. I never put thoose naughty bands to -15, as it is worse than before. A good duck compression also helps with echo. After all is done, some grain should be added to mask missing info (mastering tools).
Thanks a lot!!
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I've just noticed that the latest version of Audition (which i do not use very often tbh) has the 'DeReverb' effect - it's a perfect last step to the process you've just described. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for adding!
Mike, what mic are you using in this video?
Brilliant video, you're really saving my ass
You are awesome
Thank you!
you are great!
Aw, thanks! 😃
Hi Mike, Thank you sooo much for your videos. I am a newbie at this working on a project and your videos have been an invaluable resource.
Hi Peter, glad to have helped.
You didnt use a clip with much reverb or echo, but I can attest to the fact that it works very well! Thanks for the tutorial
Thanks! 😉
thanks! easy to follow tutorial just enough to get by knowing nothing about audio
The EQ trick was awesome, 03:22
there wasn't any echo bro you gotta use some bad audio and show folks how to fix that
There is plenty of echo....and is still there after all the nonsense editings...
This was helpful. I hear the gate, its closing a bit snappy. Others may not know you've applied it since not disclosed.
Thanks. I need to do this all the time with crappy camera mics. How would you add a little more punch to this audio? I edit promos and I need that audio to really hit the audience. Can you show us how you would do that? Thanks.
What microphone do you used on that video?
Thank you so much! The Parametric EQ trick is great!
It is!
I thought you were going to use a de-reverb or something but this indeed does the job a bit. Your original audio was fairly good already.
Thanks for this video, it works pretty well on one of my rap song.
Excellent tutorial that saved my bacon. I had to switch to recording my TH-cam work with a single Zoom H4N and your detail about Spectral Decay saved me from sounding echoey. Thank you Mike!
man what a videoo! thnk U!!!
Thanks so much, Josh, great to hear!
I do this on a weekly basis.. Thanks Mike for the great Tutorial
Your tip for Spectral Decay Rate absolutely saved me man! That's all I needed to make my recordings sound good! Thank you so much!
Thank you so much, This was helpful...
I got a good dip of me feet wet in audio editing. Thank you so much.
Thanks so much!
Just what I needed. Super well explained! thanks
Great channel!
Cheers!
Thank you!
what is spectral frequency?
no any change
Great one for the community: community.musicradiocreative.com/
this helped me! thanks man! :)
Thanks so much!
Thank you again!
My pleasure!
Thanks!
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