I swear man... Atris is such a bad character, in such a good way. I can't stand her. What about you? Don't forget to join my Discord! | - discord.gg/ZA735En
Why exactly do you hate her? I know there are many reasons for not liking her, especially when you take a closer look at the dialogues and what she did. She definitely was a threat that had to be stopped, and I don't like what she did. What I don't like about her is that she valued her status as a Jedi Master more than admitting that she and the council could have been wrong. She was not questioning the Jedi way or herself, definitely a bad attitude. But hating her sounds too rough and simple to me. In a way, one can say that all the Jedi falling to the dark side despite their training seems to have afflicted her very much. I also think that she generally is not an evil person and even think that she had meant well and had the intent to fight the evil in the galaxy. She was just not realizing that her way of trying to achieve this won't help to achieve this goal and make it even worse. This should of course not be seen as an excuse for her actions, but I can't say that I hate her. It's more that I feel sorry for her fall. And this, to me at least, is really a fall, because it was not her intention.
100% Star Wars Until within those last few moments, Atris takes the first step towards redemption. She finally begins to realise what she has become. That’s crucial, I think. I’d like to think that after Telos, she slowly began to rediscover herself and her relationship with the Force, and she became a far greater Jedi and woman as a result. A true Master, one who has learned wisdom the hard way, much like Revan and Meetra.
I don't know if this is true, but I heard that there was supposed to be more scenes in the game that would've revealed that Darth Traya influenced Artis' decision in exiling Meetra Surik from the Jedi Order in order to allow the events in Kotor 2 to unfold, but unfortunately the game was rushed so they didn't have time to add this scene(s).
I don't know why, but Atris reminds me a little bit of Mace Windu with how narrow minded their ideologies are and how they feared losing their power so they went against their own code to ensure the Jedi's survival even though their actions are what caused or at least played a part in its destruction.
It is rather poetic that Atris would hold Meetra Surik lightsaber and fall to the dark side by trying to get how to resist the tentation, she was beaten by her incapacity to accept it was Meetra's decision and not the appeal from the dark side that made her choose war.
Atria is a perfect example of one of my favorite movie quotes of all time from The Dark Knight, “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”. Also it’s interesting because KOTOR 2 came out a few short months before Episode 3 and Atris really fits in to the “becoming the thing you swore to destroy” category lol
"It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it." Her ego was her downfall, at every point. Great video, love your KOTOR II content
She really is a classic character, and a perfect representation of the Jedi and their failings. Atris is just so darn fascinating. Aggravating, but fascinating. Also, that cosplay is fantastic!
"All this collected knowledge, all these teachings of combat and the Force - they are mine to command" - Atris She is definitely among the most memorable characters in the game, with her snide remarks, and "strong" attitude towards you. Great video! Always wanted to know more about Atris and her past, as the game only tells you bits and pieces.
Hoo boy, When I played the game she pissed me off! She steals my ship, my droid and my lightsaber, stands me on a space station (Which was a slog and a half) And nearly gets me killed by Knockoff assassins and she has the gall to call me evil!? Not killing her to stay on the light path was a challenge in itself!
I’ve never her of this Character before. This Atris is a very interesting and compelling character. She was split to the bone in her ideology of what she thought was wrong and right. She was delusional too and a bit proud of herself to think that she couldn’t be corrupted by Sith or whatever they called themselves in that era. Ironically; She was corrupted and thus became that which she thought she was immune to. Overall, a very compelling and intriguing character.
Of all the Jedi that have ever existed in the Star Wars Universe, I hate Atris the most, and here's why. Historically, what has constantly caused the Jedi Order to fall (and what Luke constantly tried to avoid with his New Jedi Order), was the Jedi became infected by a disease, and that disease is known as Dogmatism. Basically, for those who don't know what Dogmatism is, they believed their way was the only way, that it was perfect as it was (when in reality it was filled to the brim with flaws), and they refused to adapt and evolve to meet the needs of the changing times. Atris is a perfect example of what happens when Dogmatism is allowed to linger for so long that it becomes Fanaticism and/or Zealotry. When that happens, basically EVERYONE becomes your enemy, because you're no longer fighting for the true Greater Good. What you're fighting for instead is your own PERSONAL PERVERSION of the concept of the Greater Good.
I consider Vrook to be arguably worse than Atris considering that when you see her break down, one can't help but pity her. Vrook, by contrast, only doubles down on his arrogance.
So the Handmaidens were half sisters of Atris and the Handmaidens are half sisters of Brianna the last handmaiden. Are Atris and Brianna full blooded siblings? Atris and Kreia do share many similarities.
It's heavily implied, according to many KOTOR Fans, that Brianna is Kreia's daughter. Since her father fell in love with a Jedi during the Mandalorian Wars and Echani children often look identical to their parents. Kreia also served in the Mandalorian Wars too and also seemed to be very familiar with Brianna's story even for an expert Force-Sensitive like herself.
She was jealous of Mitra all the time, and even more when Revan took her away from her. She is just a middle aged and even more grumpy and arrogant Bastila, though Bastila had some useful Force Powers, and she never had anything of that scale. Never liked her - never will. P.S.: She took away Kreia's child, to make her a Forceless little maid, to her command - only her to command.
I wouldn't say jealous... I would say she was blinded by unrequited love that turned toxic. And as time passed, she built this massive inferiority complex she could never overcome.
@@100StarWars That is even worse - She is a Jedi obsessed by emotions towards an other Jedi, which seamed only to be quenched by Sith teachings. That one is a sad sad way to exist... Still I don't even pitty her, she chose the path she shouldn't have taken. Jolie Bindo just quit the official Jedi business altogether, before Revan took him to an other path... P.S: Rule & live long oh mighty, beautiful and ruthless DarkSide Jaesa. )))
Fun fact. There was an alternative path where Atris completely fell and became the main villain, and highjacking Traya's plan, even Turing the other woman to the Dark Side. Another was to have her join the party as a way to make amends. Both could be restored with mods.
Thanks for doing this I didn’t realize that she viewed Mitra in such adoration and that explains why she felt the way she did toward her after she returned for judgement of the order
to me, Atris was the face of jedi pride. The unshaken belief that the council knows best and that there was not power than can be a threat. And it was because of that belief, when doubt arises, such characters will become obsessed in proving that they were right rather than doing what's right.
My friend this was a fantastic and amazing video. Again I always enjoy your videos on KOTOR characters because there so fascinating. What I learned about Atris before comes from Darthycey's videos of Meetra Surik so I won't go into that because I know how you feel about the fan made videos. Great video my friend. Also replying to your comment that you weren't interested in the Bad Batch as the next animated series I do agree with you to a point. I did like seeing the Bad Batch in action in those first 4 episodes of Clone Wars but again I do want a sequel to the Rebel series.
Thanks, now all pieces are in place and the whole story makes much more sense. That illustrates why the main character's backstory is important. When you encountering NPCs and spend 15 min tocking to them, just to understand who the hell are they and what am I doing here, it not as satisfying when you meet someone you already know. I'm mean, imagine KOTOR in real life: "Oh, hello random person, would you mind answering 25 questions about your life".
Thank you Luke for sharing in depth analysis of Atris 💜 Very complex character. She hoards all this knowledge yet she fails to apply it in the way its meant to be. A mind full of denial and lack of confidence replaced by arrogance & rigidity. Her witnessing to wars created this mental state where she believed her ideals to be the only way to bring an end to it all which in fact did the opposite from what i understand. Many may not like her as a character which i agree but i like what her character represents showing how this kind of mentality would only lead to failure in the end.
@@100StarWars That explains. I could not understand how you would have missed the great emperor Binx episode. Still have to be quiet about it. Others must not know.
I honestly believe she is the worst Jedi. Literally, she ruined herself at every turn and refused to listen until someone kicked her ass She's such a great example of that thin line between Jedi and Sith
In my opinion, Atris was never really a Jedi with how she behaved and acted. This is just my opinion alone, but the Jedi are the Heroes, not the problem. When we take characters like Kenobi or Rahm Kota, strip them of their Force abilities, they'd still believe in what they believe and still find inner peace. I just hope more and more people realize this that she's not typical.
Kenobi and Rahm Kota understood the Jedi Code and philosophy better than Atris. Thus making them better jedi. Jedi do try make the galaxy a better place.
Just like destiny , you meet it on the path you choose to avoid it , so you will be consumed by your inner dark if you choose to deny rather then accept it.
Atris was a character who showed that even the Jedi are not good. How prideful the Jedi are. How they believe their actions no matter how evil they are. Is for the greater good. This is why the Jedi keep rising only to fall. The cycle of the Jedi corruption is left unbroken. As they can not look inward and see they are the problem with the galaxy.
I wonder if they do a live action version will her hair color stay true to how she appears here, or when in a different medium they have to change it to an ash color.
Like you, I too couldn't stand Atris on so many levels. Another Jedi that I couldn't stand and I really struggled with was Vrook Lamar. I'd like to know what you think of Vrook.
didn't she had feelings toward male exile? because if I'm not mistaken the dialogue between her and male exile are different than with the female exile.
I have never played kotor 2 or know much of the Legends material, but from what I'm kind of getting at here it seems like Atris more or less was somewhat similar to Mace Windu. I don't know that's what it seems like to me considering her history and her behavior from this video.
Hmm, there's elements there. Atris is the apex of Jedi Hypocrisy and failure. But stubborness, and unwillingness to be open minded is certainly shared with Mace
I would not say like Windu, for he does not fall to the Dark Side, but to fear. He's someone who uses a fighting style that blends the Light and Dark Sides very carefully, but he's still as "Jedi" as his fellow Council members.
@@xvirez6398 That's not what I was talking about, it was the idea that she was stubborn into admitting that she was wrong and took things into her own hands. As far as her character goes I know this type and completely hate these people because they become deluded thinking that they are right and everyone is wrong. Even when someone who might be a realist at least attempts to smack reality in their faces. That's what I'm talking about and in some ways Mace had the same vibes!
Soooooo...it's because of Atris the later Jedi only grew for the worse ? Because from what I gather, while there were some dogmas already, it was because of Atris they only grew worse and more demanding.
Have you ever seen atris did join with Jedi exile went to malachor V if you play light side atris did fight Darth Traya on sith temple in the malachor V but if you play as the dark side you fight not Darth Traya but you will on dark atris and her dark sisters want to kill you.
Your hate for Atris isn't something I understand because she is in a way the deciple of Keira (Keira mention that she turn Atris into another Darth Traya Acolyte) if you don't see this then your're a hypocrite but this wouldn't shock me because i see the same lines over and over again (Kotor 2 will be the best story to the end of time / Keira is a Messiah / Revan is a God). I hope that Atris find peace in exile but that she can comunicate with sith holocrons is an interesting way to use the force even when she is fallen to the dark side.
Atris is honestly worse then the sith! Atleast the sith are honest about what they are and what they do whereas Atris hid her evil under her so called jedi code and teachings she's basically the high sparrow of starwars
I swear man... Atris is such a bad character, in such a good way. I can't stand her. What about you? Don't forget to join my Discord! | - discord.gg/ZA735En
My only experience with the character is the Revan book and thought she was a bitch in there
Why exactly do you hate her? I know there are many reasons for not liking her, especially when you take a closer look at the dialogues and what she did. She definitely was a threat that had to be stopped, and I don't like what she did. What I don't like about her is that she valued her status as a Jedi Master more than admitting that she and the council could have been wrong. She was not questioning the Jedi way or herself, definitely a bad attitude. But hating her sounds too rough and simple to me. In a way, one can say that all the Jedi falling to the dark side despite their training seems to have afflicted her very much. I also think that she generally is not an evil person and even think that she had meant well and had the intent to fight the evil in the galaxy. She was just not realizing that her way of trying to achieve this won't help to achieve this goal and make it even worse. This should of course not be seen as an excuse for her actions, but I can't say that I hate her. It's more that I feel sorry for her fall. And this, to me at least, is really a fall, because it was not her intention.
I hate her because she's such a well written character, and she's so unlikable until literally the last moments with her 😂
100% Star Wars Until within those last few moments, Atris takes the first step towards redemption. She finally begins to realise what she has become. That’s crucial, I think. I’d like to think that after Telos, she slowly began to rediscover herself and her relationship with the Force, and she became a far greater Jedi and woman as a result. A true Master, one who has learned wisdom the hard way, much like Revan and Meetra.
I don't know if this is true, but I heard that there was supposed to be more scenes in the game that would've revealed that Darth Traya influenced Artis' decision in exiling Meetra Surik from the Jedi Order in order to allow the events in Kotor 2 to unfold, but unfortunately the game was rushed so they didn't have time to add this scene(s).
Oh, Atris is a great character. A horrible person, but a well written character that shows what Jedi fundamentalism will lead to.
How blind the Jedi can be to fall without realising it only in the end falling and broken
I enjoy your videos
@@ZorroTheWevile Thanks, man. I enjoy that you enjoy my videos. :)
A great, but horrible character :D
I don't know why, but Atris reminds me a little bit of Mace Windu with how narrow minded their ideologies are and how they feared losing their power so they went against their own code to ensure the Jedi's survival even though their actions are what caused or at least played a part in its destruction.
It is rather poetic that Atris would hold Meetra Surik lightsaber and fall to the dark side by trying to get how to resist the tentation, she was beaten by her incapacity to accept it was Meetra's decision and not the appeal from the dark side that made her choose war.
"It is such a quiet thing to fall, but far more terrible is to admit it"
Well said
@@AndreNitroX indeed, kreia makes all things well said.
@@lordnihilus3198 great dialogue she has
Atria is a perfect example of one of my favorite movie quotes of all time from The Dark Knight, “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”. Also it’s interesting because KOTOR 2 came out a few short months before Episode 3 and Atris really fits in to the “becoming the thing you swore to destroy” category lol
Love how she'd a crush on male Exile but couldn't admit it. Lol
Lol yeah. I always play the male exile and find it amusing to play him as dense so he just thinks she hates him.
Atris is gay for Meetra even during the Female playthrough. #myheadcanon
Classic tsundere style.
100% Star Wars
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
She was hitting on my exile? Never catched onto that seemed like she hated my guts
"It is such a quiet thing, to fall. But far more terrible is to admit it."
Her ego was her downfall, at every point.
Great video, love your KOTOR II content
"I am Atris, jedi master...last jedi librarian...last of the jedi"
"Those are all titles, words you cling to as the darkness falls around you"
“Did I mention I’m a Jedi???”
Literally everyone forgot revan was still out there
@@Philip54622
They assumed he was dead
She really is a classic character, and a perfect representation of the Jedi and their failings. Atris is just so darn fascinating. Aggravating, but fascinating.
Also, that cosplay is fantastic!
Really glad the cosplayer 'Mowseler' let me use her work in this video! It's so damn good.
"All this collected knowledge, all these teachings of combat and the Force - they are mine to command" - Atris
She is definitely among the most memorable characters in the game, with her snide remarks, and "strong" attitude towards you.
Great video! Always wanted to know more about Atris and her past, as the game only tells you bits and pieces.
"...and if I must use them to end you, I will. Surrender. You need not die." Indeed, quite memorable 🤍
Atris was basically Kreia's pawn throughout Kotor 2. Her arc is honestly sad
Kreia saw Atris's flaw aka arrogance that she is the wisest of all of the Jedi and thus fails as a Jedi
Hoo boy, When I played the game she pissed me off! She steals my ship, my droid and my lightsaber, stands me on a space station (Which was a slog and a half) And nearly gets me killed by Knockoff assassins and she has the gall to call me evil!? Not killing her to stay on the light path was a challenge in itself!
Tell me about it... The urge to end her life is so difficult to resist in every playthrough.
That’s why I let her live, so she could mentally spiral into madness slowly. You know .. the Jedi way. :)
I’m not sure if you’re aware but you can kill her without straying from the light and losing your attribute bonus
Atris is such a complex character she’s like a female frollo. She saw corruption everywhere except within.
Atris: "Am I so out of touch?.. No, it's the children who are wrong".
*Damn Kids goin t'war...*
I'd like to think that she was exiled, thus coming full circle from the exiler to the exiled
I've been awaiting this for a long time! Nice too see a throwback to the old Star Wars characters explained videos, keep up the great vids.
There will be more, don't worry!
I’ve never her of this Character before. This Atris is a very interesting and compelling character. She was split to the bone in her ideology of what she thought was wrong and right. She was delusional too and a bit proud of herself to think that she couldn’t be corrupted by Sith or whatever they called themselves in that era. Ironically; She was corrupted and thus became that which she thought she was immune to. Overall, a very compelling and intriguing character.
She’s one of my favorite characters in Starwars! I love and hate her so much! Also her voice actress did such a great job in Kotor 2!
You love to hate her :))
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Of all the Jedi that have ever existed in the Star Wars Universe, I hate Atris the most, and here's why. Historically, what has constantly caused the Jedi Order to fall (and what Luke constantly tried to avoid with his New Jedi Order), was the Jedi became infected by a disease, and that disease is known as Dogmatism. Basically, for those who don't know what Dogmatism is, they believed their way was the only way, that it was perfect as it was (when in reality it was filled to the brim with flaws), and they refused to adapt and evolve to meet the needs of the changing times. Atris is a perfect example of what happens when Dogmatism is allowed to linger for so long that it becomes Fanaticism and/or Zealotry. When that happens, basically EVERYONE becomes your enemy, because you're no longer fighting for the true Greater Good. What you're fighting for instead is your own PERSONAL PERVERSION of the concept of the Greater Good.
I consider Vrook to be arguably worse than Atris considering that when you see her break down, one can't help but pity her. Vrook, by contrast, only doubles down on his arrogance.
This is what they should make the next star wars movies about
Nah, they'd probably won't respect the characters nor the story.
As long as they bring in a good director to work on it, then I'm down for there to be movies.
Not with anyone there currently.
This makes me want to play both kotors again
DEWIT
You can download both of them on the app store for $25. Just saying.
So the Handmaidens were half sisters of Atris and the Handmaidens are half sisters of Brianna the last handmaiden.
Are Atris and Brianna full blooded siblings?
Atris and Kreia do share many similarities.
It's heavily implied, according to many KOTOR Fans, that Brianna is Kreia's daughter. Since her father fell in love with a Jedi during the Mandalorian Wars and Echani children often look identical to their parents. Kreia also served in the Mandalorian Wars too and also seemed to be very familiar with Brianna's story even for an expert Force-Sensitive like herself.
Well for Atris, she fits the saying: ‘Beware when fighting the monster, least you become the monaster’
I love when you do these stories. Thank you
Thank you for always watching :)
Happy to see more videos in the Characters Explained vein. This was shiny and chrome.
More will come!
@@100StarWars Keep 'em coming!
She was jealous of Mitra all the time, and even more when Revan took her away from her.
She is just a middle aged and even more grumpy and arrogant Bastila, though Bastila had some useful Force Powers, and she never had anything of that scale.
Never liked her - never will.
P.S.: She took away Kreia's child, to make her a Forceless little maid, to her command - only her to command.
I wouldn't say jealous... I would say she was blinded by unrequited love that turned toxic. And as time passed, she built this massive inferiority complex she could never overcome.
@@100StarWars That is even worse - She is a Jedi obsessed by emotions towards an other Jedi, which seamed only to be quenched by Sith teachings. That one is a sad sad way to exist...
Still I don't even pitty her, she chose the path she shouldn't have taken.
Jolie Bindo just quit the official Jedi business altogether, before Revan took him to an other path...
P.S: Rule & live long oh mighty, beautiful and ruthless DarkSide Jaesa. )))
@@RoninMidzu well there is a good reason why Jedi takes a hardline against obsession and values self control a great deal.
Fun fact. There was an alternative path where Atris completely fell and became the main villain, and highjacking Traya's plan, even Turing the other woman to the Dark Side. Another was to have her join the party as a way to make amends. Both could be restored with mods.
Thanks for doing this I didn’t realize that she viewed Mitra in such adoration and that explains why she felt the way she did toward her after she returned for judgement of the order
I’ve waited for this video for so long I’m so happy you finally did a video on artis
I've literally had the base of this video in my files for over 2 years, so I'm glad it's finally out!
to me, Atris was the face of jedi pride. The unshaken belief that the council knows best and that there was not power than can be a threat. And it was because of that belief, when doubt arises, such characters will become obsessed in proving that they were right rather than doing what's right.
To me too.
My friend this was a fantastic and amazing video. Again I always enjoy your videos on KOTOR characters because there so fascinating. What I learned about Atris before comes from Darthycey's videos of Meetra Surik so I won't go into that because I know how you feel about the fan made videos. Great video my friend.
Also replying to your comment that you weren't interested in the Bad Batch as the next animated series I do agree with you to a point. I did like seeing the Bad Batch in action in those first 4 episodes of Clone Wars but again I do want a sequel to the Rebel series.
Thanks, now all pieces are in place and the whole story makes much more sense.
That illustrates why the main character's backstory is important.
When you encountering NPCs and spend 15 min tocking to them,
just to understand who the hell are they and what am I doing here,
it not as satisfying when you meet someone you already know.
I'm mean, imagine KOTOR in real life:
"Oh, hello random person, would you mind answering 25 questions about your life".
Reading the comments on this video, it seems like Atris is the Micah Bell of Kotor II lol
I'm not sure who that is 😅
@@100StarWars Oh lol. He's a really well written Red Dead Redemption 2 character. He's really hated, but is such a cool character.
Thank you Luke for sharing in depth analysis of Atris 💜 Very complex character. She hoards all this knowledge yet she fails to apply it in the way its meant to be. A mind full of denial and lack of confidence replaced by arrogance & rigidity.
Her witnessing to wars created this mental state where she believed her ideals to be the only way to bring an end to it all which in fact did the opposite from what i understand.
Many may not like her as a character which i agree but i like what her character represents showing how this kind of mentality would only lead to failure in the end.
Great video! Thanks for sharing my cosplay =)
I appreciate you taking the time to watch, and you're very welcome!
It was awesome, such a good cosplay.
I love these types of videos. Is there a way you could do a video on Naga Sadow or Marko Ragnos next?
Interesting video! Never new about her before this
Not much about her past is really explored!
Am I the only one that thinks atris was actually in love with the exile?
She was.
A real jaw dropping moment when she reveal to the character that she is responsible for the deaths on katarr and other things
Nice video! I hated her in the game. The more light side you play, the more you see how hypocrite and arrogant jedi are.
That's very true! Thank you :))
Well, time to play KotOR II again.
'Aww shit, here we go again'
In my headcanon, Meetra Surik killed Atris because she thought that letting her live only increased her suffering.
You know...... Atris is kinda rule 63 Vrook Lamar in some ways
Hmmmm. Perhaps.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
😅
At long last, it is here
Patience is a virtue.
i would love to see one of carth onasi someday
I'll get there eventually :))
Atris had a thing for Meetra and it was this unresolved sexual tension that partly led to her downfall.
Aah, my true love interest. By the way that cosplay was amazing! :O
How.... Could you love Atris....
@@100StarWars lots of people simp for objectively terrible women if they're physically attractive.
Visible disgust*
she is the one who destroyed the jedi from within
That cosplay tho 😍
Waiting for who the heck is Jar Jar Binks? clip 🤔😉🙃
Did you... get a hold of my secret upload schedule???
@@100StarWars That explains. I could not understand how you would have missed the great emperor Binx episode. Still have to be quiet about it. Others must not know.
What mods are you using the Exile’s robes?
My head canon is that atris wanted meetra as more than her hero
I honestly believe she is the worst Jedi.
Literally, she ruined herself at every turn and refused to listen until someone kicked her ass
She's such a great example of that thin line between Jedi and Sith
Wow didn’t know this. Cool
In my opinion, Atris was never really a Jedi with how she behaved and acted.
This is just my opinion alone, but the Jedi are the Heroes, not the problem. When we take characters like Kenobi or Rahm Kota, strip them of their Force abilities, they'd still believe in what they believe and still find inner peace. I just hope more and more people realize this that she's not typical.
Kenobi and Rahm Kota understood the Jedi Code and philosophy better than Atris. Thus making them better jedi. Jedi do try make the galaxy a better place.
@@DeathScepter EXACTLY!
Well damn, now I kinda feel bad for hating her. Great video!
Atris = God Complex/Messiah Complex?
that is why she would make a better Sith than a Jedi. Jedi like everyone else gets turned off by People with a God Complex.
More like false prophet 😏
Just like destiny , you meet it on the path you choose to avoid it , so you will be consumed by your inner dark if you choose to deny rather then accept it.
Atris was a character who showed that even the Jedi are not good. How prideful the Jedi are. How they believe their actions no matter how evil they are. Is for the greater good. This is why the Jedi keep rising only to fall. The cycle of the Jedi corruption is left unbroken. As they can not look inward and see they are the problem with the galaxy.
Atris and the council were super hypocritical and corrupted.
I wonder if they do a live action version will her hair color stay true to how she appears here, or when in a different medium they have to change it to an ash color.
“At last”
Like you, I too couldn't stand Atris on so many levels. Another Jedi that I couldn't stand and I really struggled with was Vrook Lamar. I'd like to know what you think of Vrook.
I assume Atris wasn't redeemed after KOTOR 2 if she was possessed by so manny sith holocrons.
She introduced the code that corrupted the clone wars jedi
didn't she had feelings toward male exile? because if I'm not mistaken the dialogue between her and male exile are different than with the female exile.
Aka Literally the embodiment of everything wrong with the Jedi order alongside Vrook.
Or she is better known as Jedi bitching master Atris.
I always kill Atris in KOTOR regardless if it's a light side play through.
Does she deserve such abuse? 😳
@@100StarWars absolutely she's too dangerous to leave alive with Meetra's apprentices rebuilding the Jedi Order
@@lorrivaldez5412 She must stand trial!
it is not atris's fault kreia "broke" her
It was Atris' fault that she broke herself. Kreia merely revealed what was broken.
Can you do a Zayne Carrick and/or Darth Malak
Video
Malak is someone I'm considering yes! Zayne however... There's just too much for me to cover deeply
I was thinking just cover the main points of Zayne Carricks story
I have never played kotor 2 or know much of the Legends material, but from what I'm kind of getting at here it seems like Atris more or less was somewhat similar to Mace Windu. I don't know that's what it seems like to me considering her history and her behavior from this video.
Hmm, there's elements there. Atris is the apex of Jedi Hypocrisy and failure. But stubborness, and unwillingness to be open minded is certainly shared with Mace
I would not say like Windu, for he does not fall to the Dark Side, but to fear. He's someone who uses a fighting style that blends the Light and Dark Sides very carefully, but he's still as "Jedi" as his fellow Council members.
@@xvirez6398 That's not what I was talking about, it was the idea that she was stubborn into admitting that she was wrong and took things into her own hands. As far as her character goes I know this type and completely hate these people because they become deluded thinking that they are right and everyone is wrong. Even when someone who might be a realist at least attempts to smack reality in their faces. That's what I'm talking about and in some ways Mace had the same vibes!
@@SCaptian458 True, although that's a defect present in the Jedi in general, not just in Windu.
@@xvirez6398 Fair enough!
Soooooo...it's because of Atris the later Jedi only grew for the worse ? Because from what I gather, while there were some dogmas already, it was because of Atris they only grew worse and more demanding.
God damn it Star wars lores are rich.. :)
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Atris is an image of what the jedi exile would be like if she had been totally loyal to the council and the jedi code during the mandalorian wars.
And yet much of her philosophy lived on through the dogmatic tendencies of many on the Jedi high council far later
Normally an outfit of simple white implies a certain wisdom, an elder's warmth and caring. Not with Atris. I see her and feel cold. Sheer cold.
This is proof that both the Jedi and Sith Codes are Morally FLAWED heck dose the Force even care about True Morality and/or Compassion?
Probably not
Atris is a example of a flawed Jedi era.
Have you ever seen atris did join with Jedi exile went to malachor V if you play light side atris did fight Darth Traya on sith temple in the malachor V but if you play as the dark side you fight not Darth Traya but you will on dark atris and her dark sisters want to kill you.
She lowkey cute, sucks how shes corrupted
Cute but pyscho? Just my type :))
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Atris Targaryen.
Canon ending is meetra stabs her to death change my mind
at the end, just a Karen. That's why they shouldn't have any kind of power
Ima base my swtor Jedi off her.
Anyone else get Jedi Karen vibes from Atris?
yes
Your hate for Atris isn't something I understand because she is in a way the deciple of Keira (Keira mention that she turn Atris into another Darth Traya Acolyte) if you don't see this then your're a hypocrite but this wouldn't shock me because i see the same lines over and over again (Kotor 2 will be the best story to the end of time / Keira is a Messiah / Revan is a God).
I hope that Atris find peace in exile but that she can comunicate with sith holocrons is an interesting way to use the force even when she is fallen to the dark side.
Atris is a Jedi Karen
Atris is honestly worse then the sith! Atleast the sith are honest about what they are and what they do whereas Atris hid her evil under her so called jedi code and teachings she's basically the high sparrow of starwars
She got on my damn nerves...
I blame Atris for why the Jedi are always messing things up.
Her own ironic hypocrisy knew no bounds.
Great video! I was not a fan, very hypocritical and narrow minded.