Man With 200 IQ Gives Theory on Reality (CTMU Explained)
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I do like that he pointed out that language is all language good evening just cut it down straight to the word communication. Will have to say that language is fundamentally limiting and it's obvious to see through any number of psychedelic experiences or just trying to describe a weird dream that switches so much ultimately it takes time to communicate and you only have so much time to dedicate so it is kind of limiting but that's built that way for a reason constantly cycling in and out of existence... forgetting all except the subconscious information everytime you die...
There's no sound on your outro Curt...
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I love how the guy with 200 IQ is basically Ron Swanson
or the pillow guy
😂 I know more than you ❤
Shane Gillis to 😂😂😂
or Bernard Farcy
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What song is this from? Or did he just say it?
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I was about to be disrespectful.... But I re read that and it was actually on point on so many levels.
As a guy with roughly half of the IQ points that this man has, I thought that a video with CTMU in the title was going to be about superhero movies. I stand corrected.
😂same here
I don't even know what CTMU means, SMH it's rough man.
@@darryl5372 🔱 ⚡```©1998``` by 🏆Christopher Michael Langan🏆⚡🔱 The real universe has always been theoretically treated as an object, and specifically as the composite type of object known as a set. But an object or set exists in space and time, and reality does not. Because the real universe by definition contains all that is real, there is no "external reality" (or space, or time) in which it can exist or have been "created". We can talk about lesser regions of the real universe in such a light, but not about the real universe as a whole. Nor, for identical reasons, can we think of the universe as the sum of its parts, for these parts exist solely within a spacetime manifold identified with the whole and cannot explain the manifold itself. This rules out pluralistic explanations of reality, forcing us to seek an explanation at once monic (because nonpluralistic) and holistic (because the basic conditions for existence are embodied in the manifold, which equals the whole). Obviously, the first step towards such an explanation is to bring monism and holism into coincidence. When theorizing about an all-inclusive reality, the first and most important principle is containment, which simply tells us what we should and should not be considering. Containment principles, already well known in cosmology, generally take the form of tautologies; e.g., "The physical universe contains all and only that which is physical." The predicate "physical", like all predicates, here corresponds to a structured set, "the physical universe" (because the universe has structure and contains objects, it is a structured set). But this usage of tautology is somewhat loose, for it technically amounts to a predicate-logical equivalent of propositional tautology called autology, meaning self-description. Specifically, the predicate physical is being defined on topological containment in the physical universe, which is tacitly defined on and descriptively contained in the predicate physical, so that the self-definition of "physical" is a two-step operation involving both topological and descriptive containment. While this principle, which we might regard as a statement of "physicalism", is often confused with materialism on the grounds that "physical" equals "material", the material may in fact be only a part of what makes up the physical. Similarly, the physical may only be a part of what makes up the real. Because the content of reality is a matter of science as opposed to mere semantics, this issue can be resolved only by rational or empirical evidence, not by assumption alone. Can a containment principle for the real universe be formulated by analogy with that just given for the physical universe? Let's try it: "The real universe contains all and only that which is real." Again, we have a tautology, or more accurately an autology, which defines the real on inclusion in the real universe, which is itself defined on the predicate real. This reflects semantic duality, a logical equation of predication and inclusion whereby perceiving or semantically predicating an attribute of an object amounts to perceiving or predicating the object's topological inclusion in the set or space dualistically corresponding to the predicate. According to semantic duality, the predication of the attribute real on the real universe from within the real universe makes reality a self-defining predicate, which is analogous to a self-including set. An all-inclusive set, which is by definition self-inclusive as well, is called "the set of all sets". Because it is all-descriptive as well as self-descriptive, the reality predicate corresponds to the set of all sets. And because the self-definition of reality involves both descriptive and topological containment, it is a two-stage hybrid of universal autology and the set of all sets. Now for a brief word on sets. Mathematicians view set theory as fundamental. Anything can be considered an object, even a space or a process, and wherever there are objects, there is a set to contain them. This "something" may be a relation, a space or an algebraic system, but it is also a set; its relational, spatial or algebraic structure simply makes it a structured set. So mathematicians view sets, broadly including null, singleton, finite and infinite sets, as fundamental objects basic to meaningful descriptions of reality. It follows that reality itself should be a set…in fact, the largest set of all. But every set, even the largest one, has a powerset which contains it, and that which contains it must be larger (a contradiction). The obvious solution: define an extension of set theory incorporating two senses of “containment” which work together in such a way that the largest set can be defined as "containing" its powerset in one sense while being contained by its powerset in the other. Thus, it topologically includes itself in the act of descriptively including itself in the act of topologically including itself..., and so on, in the course of which it obviously becomes more than just a set. In the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe or CTMU, the set of all sets, and the real universe to which it corresponds, take the name (SCSPL) of the required extension of set theory. SCSPL, which stands for Self-Configuring Self-Processing Language, is just a totally intrinsic, i.e. completely self-contained, language that is comprehensively and coherently (self-distributively) self-descriptive, and can thus be model-theoretically identified as its own universe or referent domain. Theory and object go by the same name because unlike conventional ZF or NBG set theory, SCSPL hologically infuses sets and their elements with the distributed (syntactic, metalogical) component of the theoretical framework containing and governing them, namely SCSPL syntax itself, replacing ordinary set-theoretic objects with SCSPL syntactic operators. The CTMU is so-named because the SCSPL universe, like the set of all sets, distributively embodies the logical syntax of its own descriptive mathematical language. ✅✅? Or not? What's your opinion?
As a guy with roughly half of the IQ points that you have, I thought this comment was going to be about.. idk I couldn't think of anything funny. I stand puzzled.
I hear a lot of words being used , yet very little said . Sure Mabe it because Im An uneducated dyslexic with Attention Deficit Disorder .
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The fact that he sits in a home gym with a power cage tells me this man is a man of class and intelligence...
power cage?
So quick tidbit of history about the guy. His father/step father was abusive, in his teen years he started lifting weights to be able to stand up to him.
@@ilovetech8341it’s what a lot of people would refer to as a squat rack.
power cage.
Power
Me watching this is like a dog watching his humans leave for thirty minutes, then return holding food in bags. All he ever finds when he goes out are pinecones and lizards. How? HOW?
Holy smokes what a beautiful analogy!!!
Id love to watch this guy tear Neil D. To shreds. His demeanor and openness is such a stark contrast to Neil's close minded, arrogant attitude.
his demeanor is about the same, with the only caveat being that Tyson actually follows a proven method of inquiry and this guy follows the laws of word salad.
Just because he scores well on a IQ test doesn't mean he's got a better grasp if reality (or else I'll ask my calculator to propose a TOE).
@@daarom3472'just because he scores well on an IQ test' means that he possess the ability to comprehend and problem solve situations that others with a lesser IQ would struggle with.
Right on! I have despised N. DaGassy for 10 years. Since I saw him expoucing the importance of object gathering of details as a part of the scientific method...
Except if it's a UAP, then you might as well turn your back and go home, there's nothing to see here.
BTW - I made up the word 'expoucing' for the flatulent sound his mouth makes when he talks.
@@ftgoggi4715 heh, and we know what it means here in context. It means tossing shade at his statements, calling them complicated or nonsensical, is illustrating yourself a certain way.
It's fine, they usually don't know when you're talking about them anyway.
@@ftgoggi4715 the evidence suggests otherwise as he hasn't been able to solve any problem/situation that is relevant to modern science.
The only group he appeals to are the science critics who believe true science is lost within the scientific discipline. While to some extend I can sympathize with that (String Theorists' dominance being an example), it doesn't mean that those that critique it or provide theories with no backing at all are right.
@TheoriesofEverything Just listened to the full interview. Brilliant work on your part. It's so rare to find an interviewer that can just remove his/her own ego from a conversation. Also, the amount of effort you clearly put into preparing for it Thanks again Curt. 👏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you. - Curt
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very well observed!
I’m glad there is a full interview available, because the ‘theory on reality’ was never explained in this video.
Yeah! Curt is over cool! In most cases he is smarter then guests. And it is not joke
Excellent, I wondered when this 😊 channel would come back to the CTMU 👍🏻 Rewatching the original video tends to lend new insight and perspective every time.
Thumbnail convinced me that Curt had gotten Ron Jeremy on his podcast!
Ron's theory is probably better
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lol I had to take a second look at the thumbnail too.
🤣🤣🤣
Nailed it lmao
Imagine the After Skool artwork of this conversation.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Imagine how abstract and deep these concepts would be portrayed. Like a heroic dose mushroom trip but more tangible/relatable to us everyday souls.
I need that to maybe have a chance at understanding what the hell he was talking about
Its so rare to see the Tzolkin these days. The beginning of this new Long Count has been insane huh?
They would have to edit the audio heavily
They need to change the art style
I love the fact this genius is hanging out in the garage with his weight set in the background try to explain reality to a normie like me. Awesome!! Excerise muscle and mind
He was a bouncer at a bar for years 😆
@@BurningDownUrHouse I imagined him muttering abstract math concepts after escorting some drunk guys out the bar.
I guarantee hes not on a plant based diet but also has a garden and peacefully raises his children and has a shed full of tools and knows exactly how to use each one
TL/DR: analogy
Reality works kind of like a code compiler because it uses the same language to react with itself and define all the things. This makes it like a system with constraints and testable provable outcomes. We cannot interpret reality without looking through the lens of consciousness therefore we can only describe our metaphysical reality with language. Therefore describing reality itself as a language is conceptually an efficient and accurate way to describe and theorize what 'everything' is and how 'everything' works. So the way that we describe how reality works is like building a model of the true "programming language" that the "reality compiler" runs and uses to interact with itself.
And yet it remains only an interpretation. It is not "reality".
There is no "there" there. "That depends on what you mean by "is"". --B. Clit-Don. Seriously. Language is a kluge. We are groping with it. "Reality" is in flux. A river we dip our toe in and is never the same twice. It makes no difference. They are pulling the plug soon, or rather plugging in the machine that will rebuild the human into a non thinking sludge borg. Nice knowing all of you.
You may have a wrong conception of what a compiler does.
So basically the matrix haha
@@bonita2311 actually yes. Watch Dialect’s most recent video. We’re kind of stuck in a matrix in a way because we’re seeing light n shit from our frame of reference and there could potentially be an ether, the true reality (where true time ticks and true length is shown, as in length contracts), that we can’t ever see because of the speed of light.
Einstien’s postulate implies light changes based on who’s observing it which is absurd, but it’s cuz of everybody’s different frames of reference. We’ll never see the true frame of reference in the universe though, the ether.
you should really do another interview with this guy. He is one of the most interesting thinkers of our age.
It was also the best interview with him I've ever seen. He doesn't have too many but...
What has he done with that IQ that has any relevance to any field? I seen this guy 10 years ago talking about how he lost a theory on a napkin that would change the world because he had to break up a bar fight as a bouncer. Seemed pretentious then and he's been a ghost ever since. Not hating the guy, but that title is crazy!
@@Frodoswaggnsyou can study to improve at iq. it's a meaningless metric. this guy just gets angry because real people with real ideas (like Bernardo Kastrup) smack him around with zero mental effort.
@@Frodoswaggns You are correct Sir. I joined Mensa and found that they were a bunch of unwise goofs.
They are only concerned with organizing their little get togethers.
I joke at the Mensans.
.. I ask, "Who is the vice president in charge of cutting the crusts off the little sandwiches ??" ..
@@Frodoswaggnsthat's a pretty ignorant comment. He has developed his own theory of reality (the CTMU). You can go look it up and read it. He also has other publications and contributions to the field.
More conversations like these. This is honestly what I expected more of when I subscribed. I would love to hear more conjectures about how to move forward in physics as opposed to conversations meant to popularize conventional thinking.
Yep. It looks like physics will soon to be rebuild from scratch, the scratch that Newton made when was establishing natural philosophy with rigorous logical method. We simply don't have a real physics now, just applied engineering on a shaky rotten basis. GR is simply wrong because it's local, QM has no collapse of any WF. We have no idea what time is, let alone consciousness. Penrose recently called the last 50-60 years of physics simply a brainwashing. We need to restart from solid firm philosophy.
well said
It is gobbledygook.... In other words BS!
@mm8u9y7i thank you for translating gobblygook. Also, absolutely no one asked you whether or not you thought this was nonsense.
@@mm8u9y7iunless you subscribe to the idea that current science is the end of the story, one of your beliefs is BS to someone. Tread lightly when you are in unfamiliar territory.
Thank you gentlemen for your amazing work and thoughts! You are both appreciated more than you are accredited for sincerely. All the best to everyone
Your interviews have been great since getting rid of commenter questions. It worked sometimes but you are more than qualified and ask most quality questions. Thanks for thr fantastic content!
Maybe 🤔 that explains some stuff.
YES! Please more conversations with Chris, one of the most intriguing and seemingly one of the only truly comprehensive TOE’s 🎉❤
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🧬 *Introduction to CTMU Theory*
- The CTMU is a metaphysical theory of everything, different from physical unified field theories.
- It's described as the language that reality uses to communicate with itself, making decisions and modeling itself.
- It can be seen as an operator algebra, a quantization of reality, quantum meta-mechanics, and a metaformal system.
02:35 🧠 *Development of the CTMU Theory*
- The theory is developed through logical induction, starting with perception and cognition.
- Logical induction is a precise and general process compared to empirical induction.
04:29 🧩 *Duality and Syntax-Semantics Relationship*
- Discusses the concept of duality and how it relates to invariant truths.
- Explains the relationship between syntax (intrinsic structure) and semantics (definitions and interpretations) in language.
07:22 💑 *Inter-expansive Domain and Love*
- Draws an analogy between the inter-expansive domain and the concept of love as a merger of identities.
- Highlights how syntactic merging (inter-expansion) leads to semantic actualization, similar to quantum wave function collapse.
09:15 📖 *Literal Interpretation and Language*
- Explains why there's no literal interpretation and how language requires steps like knowing the alphabet, grammar, syntax, and interpretation to extract meaning from symbols.
- Relates the process of understanding language to deciphering external reality as a language.
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Gobbledygook.
Bruh all these TabbyAI, HarpaAI are just chatGPT wrapper. Just download the subs n summarize for free.
@ScienceNow-not everything that occurs can be quantified or understood - observed and measured. That doesn’t mean it isn’t occurring.
@@cytroyd i wanted to ask this, how do choose the safest chatgpt ? It’s so confusing and I’m scared to type a false website and F my laptop
Ctmu theory, how can it be precise and general at the same time?
Bohr was on the same track a hundred years ago. He said we need a new language to express these concepts and how they practically express themselves in every day life.
Robert Anton Wilson broke this down extensively in Quantum Psychology.
Edit: here are a few quotes I found
"According to Bohr, “common sense“ and traditional philosophy both have failed to account for the data of quantum mechanics (and of Relativity) and we need to speak a new language to understand what physics has discovered."
"The new language suggested by Bohr eliminates the same sort of abstractions attacked by existentialism and tells us to define things in terms of human operations, just like pragmatism and operationalism. Bohr admitted that both the existentialist Kierkegaard and the pragmatist James had influenced his thinking on these matters. (Most scientists oddly remain ignorant of this “philosophic" background of operationalism and just regard the opera¬ tional approach as "common sense" - just as non-scien¬ tists regard Platonic and Aristotelian metaphysics as “common sense".)"
I just fell in love. The interview subject adapts readily, proceeds with compassion, criticizes lazy use of language and uses language with precision at all times - like it is the algebraic structure he says it is. It's so relaxing, and rare, to hear communication without self contradiction.
just say you're on the spectrum
And not full of sloppy, lazy uhm's, uh's, and y'know's.
@@ScienceNow- You need to define, "evidence"
There is a plethora of evidence for God. Your refusal to accept it, doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
"He also thinks there is a God, and that defies any real evidence" What does this sentence even mean? "defies any real evidence", is a throw away, meaningless, assertion.
Fuck beat me to it 😂@@360.Tapestry
@@ScienceNow- there needs to be a creator because we are here. I’m not talking about a sky person with a beard more like a conscious effort on a physical process that determines outcomes.
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By sheer deduction I know that I am not GOD. We are getting closer though.
Damn, this is just so smooth and complex. Fantastic video to watch first thing in the morning!
"It relates intelligibility and intelligence, which are dual quantities in CTME, thusly defining both of them in the recursive sense. It's a mutual recursive definition of those two terms within this CTME structure."
😳... ya man I was just thinkin that...
There was a period a handful of years back where I got to visit the Langans several times. English words alone cannot express the depth of goodness and purity of motivation I encountered. I beseech you, please continue to do what you can to help this man's voice be heard! Thank you.
Thank you so much!
@@TheoriesofEverything Keep using words, you super-massive prodigy genius savant talent. 📡🛰️🪐.
What was Chris like as a person?
Glad to see Chris is doing well. Still sharp.
I keep rewinding over and over again to try and stay with this dude. Crazy maaaaan
That's the fun part. Trying to figure out his language and semantics.
This guy is speaking so far above my head in this. I love that this channel really puts into perspective the level of my own intelligence compared to leaders in their fields. I love the feeling that I'm out of my depth because it gives me something to focus on achieving. I'm about to get the Google dictionary out. Look up some visual aides. print out the text of this conversation. Easily some of the best content on youtube right here. Continously melting minds left and right.
That's my favorite part about ToE and Curt; there's no dumbing down of the conversation.
He speaks so far about your head because he’s a professional bullshitter
did you study biology? no? go into a lecture in university 1st yr, they will also be far above what you understand. thats already cause you dont know the terms. ez
Don't sweat it. I'm pretty smart and know he didn't say much. Mostly undefined words and terms that sound important, but that require more depth. Different people would have varied definitions.
Here's what I think he was getting at:
The Universe, and all matter and non-matter it contains, is consciously aware and your personal experience of reality (human subroutine) is the communication, or mutual exchange of data.
@GrahamMyers Right! I don't like my hand held. You can't draw your own conclusions by asking someone else for the answers all the time. Because then you're not turning out any original thought or engaging in a critical sense. I hate the regurgitation of popular ideas as concrete. I do like popular ideas and play with the concepts. However, I maintain my skepticism pending perpetually. ToE really speaks to me on a deep level because I feel I'm with like-minded people. Which is more than I can say within my immediate reality. The people I share my life with tend to steer away from these sort of conversations. It can feel lonely when no one wants to grow with you or even compete with your logic. I still struggle with it and yet understand I came onto this path through life-threatening traumatic experiences. My search for understanding is how I enrich my life and keep interest in the world around me. I don't want to lose that wanderlust. But before all of that, I must admit ignorance was bliss. I went down the rabbit hole around age 27. I realized early that the only way through was to keep falling. To get stuck is draining and full of meh moments. I've been playing catchup for about 12 years, trying to keep at it daily and stay sharp. It makes me feel anxious when my kids interrupt my train of thought when expressing complex ideas. I've been wondering if I should get tested for high functioning autism. My need to consume knowledge is nearly obsessive. I like to get all my thoughts in a row before asking new questions or challenging those ideas.
Do you think he realizes that he never came close to even beginning to describe any theory of reality?
Can’t you hear all the jargon he said?
@@sky_kryst the blah blah blah jargon that helps no one and changes nothing ?😂
No, uh, I don't think he has that ability.
Yep
It's called "Word Salad"
You should really bring him back on the podcast Curt! There are many aspects of the CTMU which could be explored further.
Yes please bring this man back on.
@@Heaven-dy9lj he might just start getting super racist though, his a wildcard
Now THAT guy’s presentation blew my mind. Wow!
I completely forgot about this episode. What a fantastic interview.
Also, this fella is like A Big Brain Ron Swanson.
Nailed It😂...Big Brained Ron Swan🎶🧠⚡💥
Or Ron Jeremy
ron jeremy, aka the hedgehog
Can you interview an alien with 1000 IQ next so we can conpare?
Too too smart is not that fun
Too too dumb is not that fun
Need a Goldilocks zone of intelligence
Blessings in the innocence and curiosity because those are the keys to learning and fun... Gradual growth of natural learning processes
I am not thinking I'm smarter than you. Was just intrigued by your question. Simple seems to be valuable... Unless you're needing a lil complexity... Leave that to beautiful background fields of God
Eventually intelligence would be limited to those comprhending it. The syntax can do a lot, so can context. But it cant do it all.
Watch that be confused with sin tax 😑
I appreciate you shouting me out to be on the show.
Unfortunately, I don't exist.
Don't worry, AI will be there in less than three years -- maybe not 1000 but definitely above 200. Quote me if I'm wrong
how is ur audio quality so good, love that
Absolutely fascinating, more of this.
Thank you so much, Curt! This guy has been my favorite guest of yours, please continue to have him on!!! :)
Great stuff, Curt. I would implore everyone here to also watch Keith Wood's interview with Langan for his take on societal issues. It is truly eye opening.
I'm so mad that TH-cam waited SO long to show me your channel. Seriously.
I read his toe book and it's honestly quite wonderful. I got a bit lost near the very end but it's not at all incoherent like so many anons online seem to think. It also lines up with al lot of the recent discoveries, best I've read so far
It claims TOE at face value and then you read it… and it’s ACTUALLY a comprehensive TOE. As Langan claims - there’s no way over it, you have to go through the CTMU if you want to advance physics, philosophy, and of course the perversion of the religion of man.
I’m just impressed people are actually reading it, and hopefully rereading.
If you can't explain it to a child do you truly understand it?
I believe there are some things that children simply can't understand, at least not in a few minutes. They'd have to learn a whole lot more first
I mean the guy is trying to come up with a theory for everything and you expect it to be digestible for a five year old?
I remember him spouting same bullshit long ago and everyone was eating it just because his high IQ
@@yasaipicles6295yeah, funny enough IQ is not proportional to having insights
Children already understand reality because they don't try to make sense of it.
Great interview!
I like to simplify it to one sentence as follows:
It’s a simulation, bro
Echoing the general sentiment in the comments: more of this please! TOE might be one of the most valuable TH-cam channels out there. 🎉
his entire theory is a word salad. has no one else really noticed this?
It will seem like a unintelligeble meaningless mess of words if you haven't understanded it yet.
I did not understand anything, and all you did was interpret it with positive disposition
i read one paper that made understand better the general ideia. a paper called theory of everything. I noticed its not online anymore, but it made me understand better. after reading it i could understand Chros Langan better. But its theory, and a theory of the mind. So work on it hehehe
actually, he is making a lot of sense on some things
Imagine him in a debate with Neil D Tyson.. 😅😂 2 yrs later it still hasn't ended and they're still trying to out word each other 😂
This expanded my views of what language is or can be. Thank you.
Please consider reading the CTMU, it may not be a simple read but it is only 80ish pages.
This guy is fascinating…. You should bring him guy back for sure. Very engrossing conversation. Keep up the great work Curt. Love this stuff! 😊
This whole video is like describing an ornate door in detail, but never actually opening it.
That's because he's reciting memorized pieces of information he doesn't actually understand...
I remember the word etymology popping up for the first time with Christopher... It seems that every time the world is trying to figure out the universe a bit more, he pops up somewhere along the lines, Giving me the feeling that he somehow comes up in nature's algorithm if you will.
This is either the most important video ever published, or it’s a video that I recorded for myself in my basement one night when I was high… that I forgot I recorded.
Either way. I’m glad I found it
12,728 spoken words and not a dang thing was said.
Just say you aren't trained in logic, my friend.
Logic is expressed with symbols. Not word salads.
That could be true, but it could also be a defense mechanism against your level of ignorance.
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I’ll never get these 8 minutes back.
This whole interview was a fantastic listen. Only Curt could keep up with his guy.
I agree he should. I am starting to realize his premise at a most primitive level in my abstract brain. I had to let go of my logical brain to even start to grasp a fraction. But it's growing. Beautiful job both of you.
Here's a trick I came up with. It's called the logic koan.
Logic Koan: "The Merits of logic are quite logical, yet circular reasoning is not." -me
^Understand, that there is no logical value to logic. Using logic to ascribe value to logic is circular reasoning, and thus illogical. To be better at logic, you must know its limits. Therefore, ponder the logic koan to mark its exact boundaries.
Very eye opening interview, I thought straight away Ah clickbait because of the title but this was refreshing.
Sorry! I was looking behind you wondering how many bench presses can you do?
I have been watching Christopher since the 1990s! He is by far one of the most self researched and greatest minds even more so than the people that are praised on public media today.. It's one hell of a coincidence that this was published just 11 minutes ago and I was talking to somebody about this(CTMU) just earlier today..
I'm constantly directing people to this interview.
@CynHicks So this interview happened before and I'm wondering if Google heard me talking with somebody? Hmmm... Have to rule out all the monkey physical stuff before calling it spiritual.
can you name a single prediction that CTMU has made that can only be explained within that framework?
@daarom3472 I can and I cannot because of the duality factor. The only reason why your greatest British professors will not consider him is because he did not go to their top-notch schools for 50 years... Many of which have failed to hit the mark and now they are saying that the universe is far larger than 13.8 billion light years. The only prediction that I could say that this cognitive model has hit right on the mark every time was the fact that I could be thinking something and feeling something, and any body in the universe exhibits exactly the same behavior all the way down to the single atom and even down to the waveform and even further than that... It is still a pseudoscience to this day, But I'm seeing more and more people...Even Brian Cox, considering putting this model into their framework. They are just simply too drawn to what their physicists have taught them for the last 150 years.
I’ve been aware of the CTMU since 2008ish. He also has a decent amount of content on Substack, which I read all of. I’ve been growing more into the small community that writes and focuses on the CTMU.
The censorship has been a big problem. You’re likely aware, but you’ll likely be called a racist mentioning Langan.
The CTMU appears to provide the theoretical infrastructure that theories of Digital Physics by Edward Fredkin and Konrad Zuse didn't have.
Thank you for this- it was comprehensible and strikingly beautiful- language’s importance is seriously under-appreciated
Curt is making reference to what he knows, Chris is making reference to the function of what we know. Curt replies with duality. Chris replies with variant. Language, syntax and semantics, cognition in the function of exchange between 2 or more separated realities. We're digging into the position of super position of 1 or more positions in the same environment. The environment being awareness of the same space/time.
Nice! Have him back!
God bless, Curt ;)
Wow I remember this guy from long time ago in a documentary about man with 200 IQ.
One of my favorites thank you
Cool comes in all forms. great discussion
Oooh gonna finish work so I can watch this !!
Thank you Curt!!
Ha, another fellow CTMUist in the comment section! This really is a small community, hopefully not for long with more people like you.
Damn, this guy explains difficult abstract things with easier more accessible abstract things! Respect.
Reality is an RPG game, a movie, a hallucination. You are me and I am you. We are all one.
Correct but i feel like it’s still only half the answer.
That’s egocentric or narcissistic. If you cannot separate yourself or your awareness from others, you see everyone as an extension of yourself, unless you mean we are connected in the sense that our actions effect other people, then we are one.
@@vodkacannon Hey I'm just paraphrasing Alan Watts, who definitely wasn't a narcissist.
Push through, eventually it will make sense. I love it. Recently, I’ve been putting together super position and wave function collapse in my mind with relative clarity and understanding. I’ve been staring at those terms for 16 years not comprehending them until now.
Yep I'm clearly more on the caveman end of the intelligence scale as most of that went completely over my head
you're easy to put down. just some random gibberish and you feel inferior...
@@CodepageNet what's humorous is it also went over your head but your ego decided to label is as gibberish. He has the humility to admit it with vulnerability. He's more developed than you.
@@03056932Well it is gibberish
I came to the comments to make a snarky comment about how every other commenter is pretending to understand what they just listened to. But I stand corrected. The humility and respect shown in the comments section is refreshing.
Chris is a rare gem. Not only is he eloquent and brilliant... but also humble, likable, and can relate his ideas in a digestible way. Cheers, Chris! I hope you read this and know you're appreciated.
Anyone know if this is the same guy who was the subject of a documentary, where they mentioned that his job is a bouncer at a bar/club? He had his own theories and ideas but was unique in the sense that he generally preferred general labour where other geniuses don't. Is this the same guy?
Yes, the same guy
So he likes to play chess during the day , and punching the shit out of people at night 😂
Keeps him grounded
If you drive your car enough, the odometer goes back to 0. An extremely high IQ man may just prefer a simple life.
This is a 10 minute section from a video lasting over 4 hours, those who criticise Chris Langhan should watch the longer video before coming to their conclusions.
Yea go watch 4 more hours of the ego algorithm talk himself in circles with fancy words and zero applicability. No thanks.
@@OEFTF11You will not understand reality on a fundamental level if you cant reason beyond the concrete. I you dont value truth for its own sake and just want direct applicability, knowledge about the structure of reality will not be something you will gain.
@@adamlindfors5082this is the kind of meaningless word salad that gets chris' motor running.
@@ZalexMusic word salad is the favorite phrase of Langan critics. unfortunately for them it just exposes their own lack of intelligence. math or English is word salad to a monkey.
@@ZalexMusic What about my comment is confusing you? I don't know if the common ignorant use of the accusation "word sallad" is either a way to protect youreself from having to engage in challenging thoughts, or if its just a poor reading comprehension that actually make some written or spoken content seem totally incoherent to some people. Read Chris Papers before you try to dismiss it where he defines his terminology.
Impressive... very precise and clear framework for reality representation
It has never occured to me to think of language as algebra and mathematics as a language for describing the world. He talks about math in an almost literary sense, really loved it.
Intriguing and engaging, a lot of stuff I did not understand. 😊😊😊 Einstein boiled it all down to a simple equation that many can grasp. I guess I need to watch the entire interview, but I wish we could have simple metaphors that enable average people to grasp the core concepts. This stream of "high information" should not be exclusive to those who have invested a lifetime in it. I humbly say, thank you so much for this.
Should be taught to Kids in schools
This guy is 40 points smarter than Einstein.
Part of me believes being that intelligent would almost be an annoyance at times, whether it be having no mysteries to discover or no one around to have a truly engaging conversation. I’d love to partake in some devils lettuce with this guy and take that ride lol
Intelligence only makes you better and faster at arriving at solutions and asking the right questions.
It doesn't give you all the answers, because your means of inquiry/investigation are still limited.
@@jorghaltehreffkyan4190 it also means better pattern recognition and therefore predictive capabilities.
Try living in Indiana and being an autistic polymath surrounded by room temperature IQ's who can't grasp chess let alone discuss wolfram's hypergraph, cyclical cosmology, geopolitics or anything interesting...
Yet they manage normal average adult responsibility without effort and I'm a man in his mid 40's who can't get to an appointment on time or make a frozen pizza without burning his hand at least twice every single time.
@@rickevans7941 lol love your comment brother. Peace
@@rickevans7941i very much feel your pain. Similar situation just over here in Pennsylvania. I can barely scrape together a life but talk straight over anyone’s head and can’t ignore the fact I arrive at solutions and even creative ideas well before anyone else. The sort of stuff that convinces you that you have somehow only managed to be clever enough to ruin your life in extraordinary ways.
Mine came from two main things… an abundance of trauma and neglect early in my life, and throughout, and being a autodidactic multi instrumentalist since i was four.
People are so competitive they always act as though it’s bragging and gross … not even talking about my “intelligence” but simply offended by the fact of it. It’s a strange thing to be treated like you have it all when you have nothing but a brain capable of knowing exactly how low you really are. I always offer to trade. They never want to. Lol.
It’s largely that thing where people assume, just based solely on the fact of their jealousy that you must have it all, if you have even one thing they don’t have. So everyone treats you like you don’t need anything. And when everyone does that… you end up having nothing.
Can’t think your way out of that shit. God knows ive tried.
So many brilliant people nowadays just toil away and honestly usually dump drugs all over themselves to get their brain to quit operating that way because it just isn’t welcome in this world anywhere outside of self congratulatory academic circle jerks.
In linguistics, a level beyond semantics is called pragmatics. Regarding the last question, the "literal interpretation" of a statement would be its semantics, while pragmatically the speaker and listener may assign a different interpretation based on their subjective states and the context of the statement.
Fascinating and yet wrought with the limitations of our biochemical filtration system in our comprehension of our own understanding of consciousness. A great mystery indeed.
I agree that at some point Spiritual and Scientific explanations combine in CTMU is the only way to complete a true theory... Actually, that is when you have true Disclosure!!! ;-)
Love the parsimony.
I want to ask him whether at least some of Descartes' thinking happens in something other than 'language' ... perhaps experience that we construct using Jungian intuition... Getting into the model we are working on and playing
Very strong support in this interview for language as reality.
Holy crap! the process of semantic interpretation causes the collapse of the wave function? Very intriguing.
It would be very challenging to refute or debate against the assertions made here. Truly purely and precise logical. "Sexy math" as the saying goes. I particularly enjoyed the logical dissection of love as an analogy to reality and the metaphysical world. Truly enlightening conversation.
More please! Great podcast! 🌞
I’m going to put this video in a loop when I go to sleep and see if my subconscious understands something. I only got through calculus… this is too hard for me.
Great video thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
One of the most intense gibberish i have ever heard! Thanks!
Well, look at that! This video has been up for just one day, and it got 39K views within several hours. But look: for the last couple of hours at least, that's right where the view count has stayed: rock steady at the exact same number! It seems that the metadata dropped right off a cliff ... or more likely, were pushed off. When the original video started racking up a huge view count, its views too were suddenly choked off to nearly nothing. It turned out that TH-cam and Apple were "throttling" it, as they say (Apple wouldn't even allow the video to play on its mobile devices). "Bots", you see. Yes, they're forced to throttle and sometimes subtract views from certain videos due to the hypothetical presence of "bots". But of course, it's always to the videos of certain people, and certain inconvenient deviations from approved programming of the information landscape. that the "bots" hypothesis is applied. Business as usual.
Hi, Chris. You tell 'em!
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Holy shit I was just thinking about how large language models are being quantized into smaller sizes and how the universe could be optimized like this over time. And we don’t know which one we are in until we understand the physics of ours and another universes.
And here’s me just thinking about boobs again.
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I like his view on Logical Induction. Bright bright man. Especially arguing from Consciousness as a First-principle Basis. Very good.
Reason. The answer to your questions come from reasoning.
Set up a causal chain, but start from somewhere in the middle, then try to either deduce forwards and backwards in step.
Reasoning is the study of causality.
When I first saw this interview I didn't understand the significance of what he means when talking about language. It was only after I read the Seth book "Nature of the Psyche" that I began to grasp the immense power or relevance of language for everything. Language is actually the universe, and a word is a world. It's really a pity that there are no interviews (to my knowledge) where Chris is talking with somebody on his level, who respects him and takes him seriously enough to engage meaningfully and produce something of value. I had high hopes for the interview with Bernardo, but that one was a dud.
I cracked it wide open. 🤟🤟🤟
Seems that many philosophical linguistic translations and quantum leaps all reach the same conclusion- that consciousness is the tool the field utilizes in order to view itself.
...As do most metaphysics.
That is just about the definition of consciousness. So, yes, makes sense.
Nicely said
Wherever you go, there you are. Interpreting reality is like looking in a mirror 24/7. It continually reflects the collective consciousness right back to you. It doesn't matter when you ask, the answer is always the same... Where are you? Here.
What time is it? Now. Always.
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When he's not working on this he's doing the most spectacular jumps. Let's a-go!
Curt, can you please explain what Langan's thesis is and what you think about it.
I always knew Ron Jeremy was smart but this is amazin!
Ohhhh, nice! Great work!
The truth is always staring you in the face and expressed through the energy and interpreted through the vibes. The double slit experiment was reality looking at itself and not being able to help make it about itself.
Got it. Completely understand. No questions at all, no confusion 🤥
Well, then you need to get back on your meds.
Wow we need 4 hours of this
More please
He sounds Thomistic in his metaphysics to me... of whom helped me understand the "why" to the one and the many and hence Ultimate Reality.