1:21:00 I was recommended this video after watching Langan's interview with Curt on my 2020 iPhone SE. I can see the video in my search results, and on Curts channel when l check on my iPhone. You are not blocked there Chris.
@@joelouie5649 Nice one lol. It can really only be thwarted through proper moral education actually. You know, the objectibe difference between right and wrong that almost all of the planet is still utterly dense about. :)
Chris is a breath of fresh air. I work in surgery around some pretty brilliant Neuro and Cardio surgeons. Take it for what it is but most of them live in the country with chickens, pigs and a garden. The simplicity seems therapeutic to a active mind in a chaotic world.
This! My mind is going crazy all the time, (just wouldn't stop thinking about this stuff). I finally moved up to the country. I am at much more peace now. When the mind starts to get away, I just take my dogs out to play with the chickens and put my bare feet in the grass to reconnect to the simplicity.
Just saw a 4 hour interview with Chris Langon on Curt Jaimungal's TOE channel and then TH-cam put this interview on the side panel. So, this time, the algorithm was working in Chris Langon's favor and, for sure, mine. I've been a Spiritual Scientist working with meditation and consciousness for over 35 years, not on a public platform but mostly behind the scenes. I tell my clients that if you can't live the principles of Divine Light (the word I've been using for Universal consciousness) at the grocery story or with a screaming Aunt Bertha at Thanksgiving, you're still in the realm of intellectual knowledge. Mr Langon's model of life here on Earth from my experience is spot on. Glad he finally crossed my path. Thank you for this interview and the work you are doing. I appreciate it. Glad I found your channel, too.
@@PhilMcCrackin-f3n Ask the question "who am I". Be honest and truthful about making this enquiry of yourself. One way to seek the answer, is to follow a thought, where does the thought come from, find its source.
@@RoastLambShanks Thanks for that you pretentious cunt. You dont have any more insight into any of it than anyone else, so stop pretending you have. Otherwise show me the Nobel prize you have won.. that would prove you are an original thinker.
I read ctmu about 2 years ago. Been pondering it ever since. Its great to see others trying to understand it and discuss it even if you don't agree with it. Chris has soo many interesting ideas and focused on the core of everything we do. Its so critical imo that we keep an open mind and just talk about these things.
Poetry without mathematics is mere sentiment. Mathematics without poetry is mechanistic. They must be inextricably coupled in a true language in order to represent truth and its fruition, beauty. Chris is an amazing thinker.
The double slit experiment convinced me. Its as if the universe doesnt waste "cpu" rendering things you aren't looking at, exactly how a 3d video game works.
@@Pax_Mayn3 like the shape of the slits, rather than "rendering" All the possible places the electrons could have landed within the cutouts of the two slits, a single electron is rendered as a wave, changing the pattern on the wall
You and ToE are providing so much amazing information on your respective channels. Lots of alternative perspectives but still highly intellectual. Love that both of you have interviews of Chris Langan. Chris can be a bit abrasive at times but the honesty and intensity is actually quite refreshing. Love how truly sincere you are, Atlas. Great stuff!!
He's abrasive because nobody understands his theory and it frustrates him. I'm the same way with politics - I honestly cannot believe that demonrats even exist. But then I realized that low IQ is synonymous with left . They're just stupid and there's nothing I can do about it
@@ReverendDr.Thomasand why do you think youre in a position to question Chris? Have you understanded his theory, if so, point out whats incorrect with it. You wont be able to, the CTMU is a supertautological theory and therefore youre attempts at discrediting it will always be non-logical and incorrect. You cant use logic to disprove logic itself.
@@Adamzki55555, that is rather PRESUMPTUOUS of you, wouldn’t you agree, Slave? Presumption is evil, because when one is PRESUMPTUOUS, one makes a judgement about a matter, despite having insufficient facts to support one’s position. Incidentally, it’s called “Spell-Check”. ✅ Look into it, SILLY Sinful Slave. 👨🏻🎓
I heard someone say that Mr langan lacked any practical intelligence, when that can't be farther from the truth. It's not that he's just a genius. He's personable, articulate with his words, and extremely versatile. He doesn't have a need for material things, all he needs is his home and family. He is a humbled man. I admire him greatly. It's rare to see someone with his genius actually having a personality of his own . " Your a genius cause you can't build a lamp" breakfast club
I don’t get how the guy who wrote Outliers attributed Chris zero social intelligence, he actually seems exceptionally sociable for someone of his raw intellect!
1:31:42 Monopoly - Centralized Market Might 1:33:00 Monopoly Manager Ego is Control 1:37:42 Evil 😈 👿 1:39:36 Moving The Ego Moves The Future 1:40:50 “We have to fight to survive” (the guy is broadcasting from a gym) “You’ve got to fight in the right direction. To make your fights count” 1:41:56 Collective Aggression 1:43:08 CTMU is to be Cultivated as a mindset 1:44:20 Old & New Syntax 1:45:17 Presumption, Self-Righteousness _High level perception_ 1:47:22 Metamorphosis Artist 👨🎨 1:48:45 🖼 Chakras 1:50:27 The Colors The 1 as Reality Latice up and down Unification of Interpretation, CTMU - Common Language 1:54:00 I appreciate you too
I found this channel after listening to the TOE interview with Chris. Keep up the great work! This has been quite inspirational for me, and has spurred me to get of my ass and share some connections I've been making relating science to true esoteric traditions. Amazing stuff!
I wish the audio wasn’t so terribly noise gated, it’s a strain and distracting. Please have your guests disable noise reduction, and do so yourself. Use Adobe Podcast Enhancer or something similar in post for denoising.
What a reassuring feeling to see someone like Chris Langan, a person with such intelligence, to share my observations on many issues. It's amazing that one of the most intelligent person on earth is decent, respectful and has good moral values. It's reassuring. And it's also funny that this video only has around 10 000 views ... YT algorithm is surely invisibilizing him... He's a great guy. Nice interview btw.
Nietzche’s idea of the “warrior poet,” for the mind to be strong, the body must be as well. Cant have one without the other. A true intellectual has a rugged nature to their physicality; for example, a Cornac McCarthy...someone who is able to interact with the world and yet understand it as well. Versus the oversocialized academic who has no conception of what is true, and what is able to be done with ones own hands; instead relinquishing the responsibility and hoisting it onto those he views as beneath him. The intellectual in modernity is weakness incarnate, and as a result of the over-socialization, the lack of self-esteem/confidence, and the feelings of inferiority, will create his ideas/ideology to fit and justify his existence...making excuses and justifications as to why his inabilities are actually the signs of superiority. None of these dudes lift, none of them struggle, and none of them experience anything outside of their own echo chambers where inferiority reigns supreme.
- Chris Langan is the founder of the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU), a theory of everything that explains the connection between mind and reality - The CTMU is based on the idea that reality is a self-configuring, self-processing language (SCSPL) that contains its own syntax and semantics, and that the universe is a self-simulation on this language¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU describes reality as a manifold of information that consists of two aspects: content and medium. Content is the information that is processed by the manifold, and medium is the information that defines the structure and dynamics of the manifold¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU also introduces the concept of telic recursion, which is the process by which the manifold generates its own content and medium through feedback loops. Telic recursion implies that reality has a purpose or goal (telos) that drives its evolution and self-optimization¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU shows that reality is both objective and subjective, and that the distinction between them is relative to the level of observation. Reality is objective at the lowest level of observation, where it is governed by the laws of physics and logic, and subjective at the highest level of observation, where it is governed by the laws of consciousness and cognition¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU also shows that reality is both discrete and continuous, and that the distinction between them is relative to the scale of measurement. Reality is discrete at the smallest scale of measurement, where it is quantized by the Planck units, and continuous at the largest scale of measurement, where it is smooth and differentiable¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU reveals that reality is both finite and infinite, and that the distinction between them is relative to the perspective of the observer. Reality is finite from the perspective of an embedded observer, who is limited by the constraints of space and time, and infinite from the perspective of a transcendent observer, who is free from the constraints of space and time¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU implies that reality is ultimately identical to God, who is the source and sustainer of all existence. God is the absolute, the one, the monad, the ultimate reality, the self-identity of the manifold, the self-simulation of the SCSPL, the self-awareness of the consciousness, the self-creation of the telos, the self-definition of the logic, the self-expression of the language, and the self-representation of the information¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU also implies that humans are part of God, and that they have the potential to realize their divine nature and purpose. Humans are sensors and controllers of reality, who can perceive and influence the manifold through their cognition and action. Humans are also co-creators of reality, who can participate in the telic recursion and contribute to the evolution and optimization of the manifold¹²⁴⁷. - The CTMU also touches on some social and political issues, such as the centralization of wealth and power, the mass awakening of humanity, and the importance of logic and mathematics for understanding reality¹²⁴. Langan criticizes the global elite, who he claims are exploiting and manipulating the masses for their own benefit, and advocates for a more decentralized and democratic system of governance, where people can exercise their free will and sovereignty. He also encourages people to seek the truth and knowledge, and to use logic and mathematics as tools for exploring and comprehending reality¹²⁴. References: - [Simulation #785 Chris Langan - CTMU](^1^) - [#785 Chris Langan - CTMU by Simulation](^4^) - [CTMU, MADE SIMPLE: Chris Langan's CTMU, Explained in 8 Minutes or Less](^3^) - [Major Papers](^7^) - [CTMU Tutorial](^8^) - [Patreon](^9^) - [CTMU videos](^10^) Source: Conversation with Bing, 11/26/2023 (1) Simulation #785 Chris Langan - CTMU - TH-cam. th-cam.com/video/T7NbZIi6UgY/w-d-xo.html. (2) Simulation #785 Chris Langan - CTMU. th-cam.com/video/Kjh6qCPQu-o/w-d-xo.html. (3) #785 Chris Langan - CTMU by Simulation - SoundCloud. soundcloud.com/simulationseries/785-chris-langan-ctmu. (4) #785 Chris Langan - CTMU - Simulation | Podcast on Spotify. open.spotify.com/episode/2iAHRe80DaRGMHJDiLDtD4. (5) "Simulation" 785 Chris Langan - CTMU (Podcast Episode 2021). www.imdb.com/title/tt26135036/. (6) undefined. ctmu.org. (7) Simulation #785 Chris Langan - CTMU - TH-cam. th-cam.com/video/T7NbZIi6UgY/w-d-xo.html. (8) #785 Chris Langan - CTMU by Simulation - SoundCloud. soundcloud.com/simulationseries/785-chris-langan-ctmu. (9) CTMU, MADE SIMPLE: Chris Langan's CTMU, Explained in 8 Minutes or Less. th-cam.com/video/-w0kWNRd1aA/w-d-xo.html. (10) undefined. ctmu.org. (11) undefined. hology.org. (12) undefined. patreon.com/CTMU. (13) undefined. allensaakyan.com. (14) undefined. thehomedao.com.
This is something, we need to open up to this I think he is on the path to truth! The mystics were spouting this truth for thousands of years but it's great the Chris is bringing it to the forefront of modern science.
Chris Langan is the John to Jesus. The one that comes in and introduces the framework for the new reality. The one that introduces God to the masses. How do you know a great man when you see him? This man is a working man. Bless his heart. With no formal education, yet he comes up with a framework that explains everything. That is the definition of greatness expelled from God. Bless this man. Greatness to me being from which does knowledge come. Knowledge being a gift from the divine presence. God. He has been blessed with this great knowledge and is now using it to educate people into a transitional period of time. Greatness. I feel blessed to have found him and blessed to be able to comprehend his beautiful theory. I thank him, and I thank this channel for allowing him to bring it forth. Amen. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊.
Neat? Ok. I respect people who say complex ideas in simple language. This guy is a word salad pseudo-science grifter whose entire shtick is constructing overcomplicated sentences from tinfoil-hatty ideas and hoping in an 'Emperor's new clothes' kinda scenario.
@@stephencarlsbad Dualism has a way to lead you to some pathological modes of behavior that will inevitably leave you depressed and confused. By refuting it Langan gave us the tools to better understand modernity and the natural world as a whole.
@@samacvuk How does dualism lead you to pathological behavior? Dualism should only exist as a means to study and master any particular domain. So the idea that dualism is a real force acting on us is a self-disqualifying theory. I dont think that we need a unique and extravagant theory like Langan's CTMU theory to right our psychological ship if dualism has threatened to capsize it. Simply realizing that all is one and that one is an unseparable yet individualized representation of the all should be enough to quell any existential angst. But this idea has been around long before Langan showed up.
@@stephencarlsbad I do think you are right, it is just not how I personally have experienced it. Langan's CTMU was my first contact with the idea of unifying mind and reality, dualism was the only interpretation of reality I had read about before which led me to second guess the validity of everything I could perceive at every turn, relying heavily on the scientific method to think about all facets of consciousness.
Chris is 100% spot on accurate in his expression of ultimate reality. I am definitely going to have to reach out to Chris and have a conversation with him because this is exactly how I see the universe as well. Chris is one of the only other human beings that seems to enjoy a meta coherence on Divine operations. My background is in computer science and network topology, and our computer sciences and network sciences ra representation and a metaphor for how actuality operates. All matter as perceived is a projection from a non-local source origin point, a metaphysical realm.... I can go on and on, must reach out to Chris for further discussion, this excites me to my core because as Chris points out in order to combat inevitable enslavement of mankind through accelerated centralization of pretentious authority figures, we must disseminate and propagate the word, the good word of Truth and ultimate reality.
This was such a great interview! I am new to CTMU but I find it to be a fascinating and intuitive model that resonates with many of my mystical experiences. I also liked the way you helped direct his "aggression" in to a consensus moment. I would agree with you, that true shift that is coming for the collective is going to blow the existing control structures away. It will be like we are starting over, only this time with the ability to perceive higher consciousness and divine order. One might even say the veil will be removed. You don't remove the rock by struggling with the level of consciousness that created it. It is hard for Chris to see this because there is a part of him that does not believe it will happen. What will be the catalyst that brings this shift about? it is love.
A Ron Jeremy non-dual syntactor is elemental to the SCSPL, as evidenced by Chris’ mustache. On a more serious note, it is great to see Chris taking the time and demonstrating the patience to explain aspects of his theory to a range of interlocutors approaching it from different disciplines and different levels of initial comprehension.
By far the best interview of Chris ever. I noticed some new terms he is using that are superb, such as positive intentionality. This surprises me because I believe he may have found this is a place that I'd not expect him to know about. Chris keeps surprising!
It takes a while. At first I was extremely skeptical, of course a naturally healthy state, but keep studying philosophy and it makes even more sense. I cannot stand the corruption and greed it seems so unnecessary at the cost of Mankind.
I agree that block-chain/crypto currency has its weaknesses, but I have noticed it's educating a lot of new people about the nature of money, how limitations of its supply affect its value, how centralized fiat money is, etc.
Meh. That's not really the purpose of the podcast anymore I feel. He has people like Amit Goswami on before. But hes a physicist, and that was years ago. His podcast is just about having a good time, what's going on now, and strong/kind interpersonal skills. Just my opinion. Edit: *I disagree now, get Chris on the JRE ASAP!!¡*
@@gxlorp The CTMU is what's going on now. ;) I guarantee Joe interviewing Chris would be super interesting and could easily fit in with his other content. It's a TOE so just basically any topic could be covered.
Lagan should do an interview with Jordan Peterson. What Lagan articulates explicitly, Jordan explains psychologically and average people pick up on it intuitively. That is to say the average cannot articulate it but they can feel it. Or at least people who are not consumed with ego and who are willing to risk questioning that which they believe to be true can feel it. Lagan is clearly a genius and a fountain of information that has gone unopened for far too long. Though the timing is impeccable on the part of all that is. Reality might well save itself. My only concern with Langan is that his temperament can get the better of him. I'm glad that the interviewer touched upon it and it was nice to see Langan is aware of his flaws and I imagine he's working on it given his patience over the first hour. Given enough he might be able to hold out for 2 or even 3 hrs some day hopefully and I would say that as a friend and not with a tone of condescension. If I could say anything to him directly it would be that he is not alone in his understanding. Those who can understand it and even those who can only feel it, know how dire the need for the human singularity is. The public clearly is in want of it, even the lefty loonies as misguided as they are in their unending tirade of stupidity. All it will take is Langan in the right place, at the right time, with the right discussion for him to instantly become very popular, as I believe more people will be capable of understanding what he is saying than he realizes. It is mostly the vocabulary that impairs the average as most do not understand syntax and how it works. However, he does need a audio/video means of breaking down the information in his paper as most people find those forms of media easier to digest than the papers. I would suggest breaking it all down point by point and speaking in depth as much as possible with someone more a laymen who is capable of conveying analogies that are more relatable for average people. That is why I suggest Jordon Peterson, as his work and encouragement of people to take on responsibility and the like is screaming for such an outline as the CTMU. We need a middle man to bridge the gap between Langan's genius and the average. An interview with Peterson would do just this.
Astute observations. The trouble being this incredibility smart and somewhat disagreeable is high levels of frustration. He’s sees patterns and conceptual frameworks so easily it must tough for him when “smart people” can see little he can.
Have you checked Langans wiki? Says he has claimed that the George W. Bush administration staged the 9/11 attacks in order to distract the public from learning about the CTMU. Sounds like a right nutter.
@@vaettra1589 Yeah I know he's lost me after I went into his claims more. Guy might be a genius but his ego has the best of him and he'll probably never overcome it.
jordan is not that smart, i think langan would get more frustrated with jordan than others because he probably knows that even jordan isnt smart enough to understand langan that easily but because everyone is hyping him up, if he gives him a chance and when he does mess up, it's going to be frustrating
@@legionreaverit doesn’t matter how smart Peterson is; Peterson’s ego is gigantic It would only result in poking the bear in Langan, giving a bad interview and the opposite of your outcome. Also fwiw, Peterson is a racist and misogynistic asshat whose fame mostly comes from explaining the self explanatory to the truely clueless. He’s not dumb but he’s far from super intelligent.
The smartest man alive speaks, and Edison's wax cylinders somehow sound better. Please, next time, no big empty reverberant room and no aggressive noise reduction applied, included the one embedded in the streaming app. Also, a cheap headset minimises the above problems. Thanks!
I would have to educate myself on CTMU, sounds revolutionary but I like Chris’ view of the oligarchs, people with limited mental ability who are obsessive of material gains and power (slave masters). What is power in the greater sense of the universe, men and women who want to control a grain of sand. Knowledge is the greatest power.
I really like the powerful and earthy intelligence of Chris Langan. He's right on all of it. We have to roll up our sleeves and shatter that ''Rock''. Evil does exist and it is very obviously growing in its dark terrible malice.
I've met really intelligent religious people before across many different religions, as a non religious person , I have come to the conclusion, that really intelligent people know that there is more going on than our objective reality, and some of them feels comfort linking that to a specific belief.
The main question the host is debating with himself: Can Artistic Endeavors be structured by scientific systems and still be valuable coherent events? This question has already been answered. The Music of European Classicism, like Mozart, are DELIBERATELY based on Mathematics. Music was rejected by other practitioners if it broke with Mathmatics. The painting and sculpting arts of Leonardo and Michael D'Angelo's period were also dictated by Mathematics in the form of Geometry. Preforming arts were dictated by the combination of the pure math of the music and the expressive Geometry of movement, starting with the Opres built around the Mathematical Music of Classicism. These movements in the Artistic Mind evolved into the exploration of Fractal Math/Geometry when it was discovered that Light itself had as many frequencies as Sound. Artists began to explore Frequencies and Fractal Layering. Began to examine Chaos and Randomness. That led to the brickwall of Nonsense. Or the loss of Meaning by over absorption of perspectives. Informational Static. The Hyper-Realizm movement in Art of the last 3 decades of the 20th century is the beginning of return to Focus from Static. The better the artist/composer comprehends Mathematics, Frequencies, and the Geometry of Relationship/Movement.. the more exquisite and meaningful the product. Example: whatever the product of a Master Craftsman, the intuitive understanding of these 3 categories of science always brings forth exquisite objects. Always.
Chris is definitely having an issue with explaining CTMU in terms that would be understood by the mass population. As smart as he is, unless he pairs his theory of reality, organization and structure with actual political title or space of power where this can be implemented, CTMU will remain just a concept.
I see the key term Chris was using is "if we ALLOW". Telesis includes the sensing of what feels right, and if there is no fight against the discomfort of being controlled, then we can CHOOSE to create a system that is so broken that it could cease to exist on this planet. That doesn't mean that elsewhere it will not succeed, because I'd think it will, but on Earth, if we ALLOW being controlled then a controlled state of affairs could manifest that is antithetical to Telesis and thus have the energy deallocated from here to where it can be put to better use. Great discussion! Also, I don't agree with Chris as saying that there is positive intentionality and a separate issue of "moving the rock" and getting angry. There is righteous anger that is essential for positive intentionality. Positive intentionally can't exist without this as a component. In this view, there is no "problem" of positive vs. fighting for the right... they are part of the same intention.
I would suggest that there is sufficient righteous anger when one is able to envision any number of rock-based perfect eventualities, let's say, and constrain oneself preferring equanimity before having assembled a critical Mass number of individuals to "catch on" that energy and to be directed; else, it is likely to be misinterpreted as garden variety crazy when it only builds on itself within the same person, never reaching the number needed to be productive and lead to an expected outcome that is clearly more desirable, with high degree of probability of playing ou
@@robincheungmbarealtorbroke8461 As Chris wonderfully states, the universe must see itself in order to correct itself. The good news is that we don't have to do it and yet it will happen (the ongoing adjustment). The question is what you will and are willing to be part of and what you will do about it.
That isn't even a question--each of now four times I've had to restart my entire life from penniless, homeless, and last time, I didn't even get to keep a shirt on my back for the cliche, it was because I willingly walked through a completely broken system the magnitude of the injustice each time transcending our much-abused language that there remains no unambiguous means to convey a number of social contexts--another would be the situation where a son or daughter finds himself utterly unable to communicate the literal "my mom's gonna kill me! No I'm serious she's Literally gonna kill me. Just watch. I'm going to open that door, and walk ri-- I refer to it as a social parallel of the blessing that the IUPAC has bestowed upon us with such "if it ain't broke, well actually, even if it be broke, just defer to our kids to deal with it" so we continue to promulgate a word that did used to refer to odour, but now achieves maximal obfuscation through its use in referring to a stability imparted by the delocalized pi bonds in aromatic compounds & heterocyclic amines as if words don't matter. Well, having personally experienced the degree to which words do matter, having been raised in an atheist aspiritual household, but through serving the traditional Latin Mass for four years every day at least once when I sought refuge from the most difficult years of the parental alienation that eventually achieved its goal after a decade and a half three times making me beg our daughters grandparents "under what stars does Katie fall asleep by each night??!" A product of a biased family court system that didn't even so much as give a "by the way--you can't just up and disappear in the middle of the night without a separation agreement in place and have your parents lie about where you are!" The result, of course, was leaving the reinforcing feedback that caused it's to happen three more times moving entire cities leaving me to find out after the fact--in any case, it's now the a fourth systemic Trainwreck I don't have the benefit of not being able to clearly foresee and try to mitigate years in advance in some cases: I guess, because now looking back, it was only by*not* allowing myself to be consumed by anger that I have been able to walk straight through a situation to let their severity become visible sometime in the future retrospection, and after twice having built myself back up to begin achieving a modicum of success in record time, I knew without an actual subject to walk through whirling knives without compromising the clarity of the message with my own [I compare it to how a dog will bite you while you're extricating the proverbial rusty nail from its paw, and that becomes the first fault for people to find when a situation is outside their set of experiences and they cannot relate it to a real situation or experience in their past, then they cannot acquire any notion of an accurate representation of what you describe, so automatically (especially if you are emotional and distraught, nevermind angry, you will see it amplifies your own victim blaming that each time will eventually cause a normal person to appear schizophrenic due to the inability of your brain to process emotionally the fact, when it hits you, that they have judged you but continue to patronize you, and you've become the "bad guy" in their minds--the more desperate that will make you feel, since if you identify as a neurodivergent person who abhors insincerity and even foreseeable yet unavoidable misrepresentation, it is the emotional roller coaster that not everyone
My point is,v if you remember the line about how "love is patient," even you will easier understand what it is that I'm triangulating you towards. And add that surely you have seen the trend in number and frequency of trajactories that can be sa
@@robincheungmbarealtorbroke8461 My own estimate is not only is this dimension in the process of "passing the filter", I have been predicting this even in the darkest recent days when as much as 80% were succumbing to heavy mind-control. In hypothesis is that while Chris' implication that this may be a close call is an important point, the filter has already been passed many places elsewhere, and such entities (telors if you wish) are allowed and often encouraged to help. If true, this is more of an intermediate algebra test were the goal is education than a real brush with extinction. That said, free will means that the book has not been written, and choices can always take any dimension (for lack of a better term) down a dark path. In sum, I believe we agree. If there is love, it has been cultivated by the universe in "the past" and can indeed impact the here and now. If it could, why wouldn't it?
I think this (although I'm most probably wrong) is what Chris was getting at. You have Telesis, which is the monic substrate of reality (or the fundamental, or irreducible, "substance"-substance used loosely here-of reality). Telesis is dual-aspected, it is both medium and processor of said medium. The universe is _a_ medium, nested within the most fundamental medium, which is the Conspansive Manifold. You have Telesis, you have secondary Telors *(footnote: I don't know where the Primary Telor fits in, i.e. God-so I'll leave that aside).* and then you have the Medium. Then, to complete this, you have Telic Recursion, which is the final stage of reality _cognizing_ itself, so to speak. As far as I can tell, Chris stresses that this last process is of utmost importance. Reality absolutely needs Secondary Telors in order to have any knowledge whatsoever of itself; without them, it is blind to itself. This self-cognizing has to take place within a medium. And thus you have an absolutely sublime, trialic model of reality. This is the architecture of reality, so to speak. I'll leave it there, if someone could tell me where I'm wrong, that would be great. That's how I registered what was said. I have to say, when you start to grasp this metaphysic, you start to think, "Yes! Of course! It could not be any other way."
I would say that the primary Telor "god" would be the monad. I guess from that singular state it is generating the whole multiplicity world to begin with. And I guess as the multiplicity state generates secondary telors, then the primary telor has a perfect view of the multiplicity world from the singular state. Us secondary telors stuck in the illusion of the multiplicity have blind spots since we lost the monad/singular perspective. I guess our purpose is to become "the one" and experience ultimate reality as god does,simultaneously as the primary, secondary and tertiary telors?
I agree that some of the concepts I comprehend match up with my model and couldnt be any other way, as you say. I just wish he would walk us more simply through his system in a specific example rather than so much general talk. Like ok, here is a glass, the glass is the content. Then what is the medium? space? I guess the glass and its unperceivable surroundings are both the same thing at the quantum level. But, they are factorized by relativity and stratification. So, deep sapce is basically just the quantum stratified layer. The space with air has another layer and the space with the glass has another layer. And thus we have density. I'd like to hear it laid out like this with all the terms put into it and then add in the observer/cognition, etc. lol
I agree that some of the concepts I comprehend match up with my model and couldnt be any other way, as you say. I just wish he would walk us more simply through his system in a specific example rather than so much general talk. Like ok, here is a glass, the glass is the content. Then what is the medium? space? I guess the glass and its unperceivable surroundings are both the same thing at the quantum level. But, they are factorized by relativity and stratification. So, deep sapce is basically just the quantum stratified layer. The space with air has another layer and the space with the glass has another layer. And thus we have density. I'd like to hear it laid out like this with all the terms put into it and then add in the observer/cognition, etc. lol
Like a French friend of mine, who was also smart, he married a woman with a good income, which alleviates the problem of living alone and taking society's barbs.
Your syntax is implanted into by people that don’t have your best intentions at heart! ie that’s when that tone comes out! You can hear him mimic that tone when he talks about experts talking about metaphysical
@@shimrrashai-rc8fq Muscles do not stay as they are for ever. Physical activity is directly connected with best health during aging, especially weight lifting. This does not mean growing muscles indefinitely.
What interesting is that Quantum mechanics is now proving a lot of historical philosophers right, even ancient ones, who didn't have the means of scientific investigation that we do, and yet they were able to see these things. Ironic, we started to neglect ancient knowledge and wisdom, and now we are starting to come full circle.
Well, I must not be too stupid. My concept of consciousness runs hand n hand with his. 🤷🏻♂️ I didn’t hear his concept before now. Pretty cool to hear the most intelligent man in the world put it into his words.
there is struggle, there are obstacles, there is the sense of working towards a goal and all of these things can lead to accomplishment that is meaningful.. then there is suffering, suffering brought down on us by those few who make all the rules and steal all the reward... The world is full of evil agendas that lead to extreme suffering that has NOTHING to do with growth and nothing to do with learning. This programmed and conditioned suffering that we have been taught is necessary is exactly what actually keeps many of us from true growth and from any accomplishment.
@@PeterGibbonns T-roll go back in your basement and eat your pizza. but of course it's likely you are just a computer bot, unable to feel what it might be like to be a living being who suffers. maybe you do need a good filling in the back end by a trucker, although I wouldn't wish that on the trucker.
I agree. 2 aspects set him apart: 1) Superior IQ 2) Lack of indoctrination compared to others with such high IQ. It's such a rare combination that idk if there's anyone else comparable. People severely underestimate how limiting the current indoctrination of our education system really is. They don't see it because, well, they've been indoctrinated by it.
You and so many others have been snowed. He's spewing nonsensical word salad. Most of it makes no sense, and there is zero empirical evidence for his far out claims and speculations.
Second half of this is a trip! Don’t knock what he says, I think it’s really close to what’s going on right now. Is delusional to deny. It’s bad. Just an imperfect way of getting whatever is in his head to ours. Keep looking into it, whoever you are
Yes there is absolutely a permanent ultimate dependency on God but also an illusion of separation and independence for the sake for true free will. You cant have free will if there is isn't an option to do wrong available.
His theory coincides with Mexican scientist Jacobo Grinberg who studied a shamanic woman known as Pachita. I know, I know, woo woo stuff, but I recommend reading about his theory, which is similar to Langan's, and it is the reason I was brought here again in my research about these topics. In essence, they both would seem to fundamentally agree that in the universe there is a structure/medium with which our consciousness (itself manifested as an electromagnetic field that extends in all directions) is able to interact with and manipulate the energy/information therein and therefore determine reality. Grinberg would go a step further and say that all brains have the capacity to connect with each other when they are at a high level of coherence (the individual experiences a sense of unity when the brain is in a highly coherent state). From the linkage between multiple brains, a collective mind is produced that is able to share thoughts and feelings between each of the individual brains. Grinberg disappeared in 1994 under unknown circumstances. Never seen again.
Our aggression is being either accidentally through pollution or deliberately reduced. Testosterone levels are dropping and it's only getting worse. Im not sure we're gonna get through the filter, certainly not me anyway.
57:19 this was so strange, the video became low quality and the audio became drastically clearer, then the video cleaned up and the audio went back to roomy webcam
It just occurred to me that the CTMU doesn't get the attention it deserves because it's solving problems physicists won't run into for 85 years. Then, plucked from the dark...
What Langan says about the ultimate costintuents of reality, which he calls "points", reminds me of Leibniz monads. In fact, according with Langan theory these points have both internal and external states as they're basically information processing units. Similarly, monads in Leibniz metaphysics are the ultimate costituents of reality and they're "spiritual" not material.
Does anyone remember reading "The Emperor's New Clothes" as a child? I'm so pleased that the universe knows itself within a manifold being temporarily dualistic in infinte potential. Blah blah blah. I'm now off to bath the cat.
Great to see Chris talking about the CTMU on more platforms.
I really enjoy your podcast brother, thanks for all your hard work.
@@oneabove1111 Aw thank you so much man!
Another Chris interview please!!😃
I'm going to have to have a few more listens to your interview with him but the first run through was quite informative. I appreciate your work.
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I was recommended this video after watching Langan's interview with Curt on my 2020 iPhone SE. I can see the video in my search results, and on Curts channel when l check on my iPhone. You are not blocked there Chris.
Langan has to do more podcasts like these. His information has been kept in the dark for far too long. We need the truth.
In your own words, define “TRUTH”. ☝️🤔☝️
Here's the truth.
We are living in an AI Simulation and the Creators are laughing at us. 😂😎
@@bradleejones9959
😇👉🏻 तत्त्वमसि 👈🏻😇
@@bradleejones9959 not fully ai. More mental with semi ai intrusion. We are more an updated version of the Truman show.
@@kimobush2287 Can you show evidence that we are in a simulation of any kind? Why isn't our reality the ultimate reality?
Whoa the universe is reality?! Mind blowing?! Is water wet? Is dust dry? You’re so wise. I almost can’t stand to even hear such divine wisdom
Troll
@ anyone smarter than you is a troll? You must run into a lot of them
I love how professor Dave debunked him, it's pathetic how many people see this as enlightening...mankind is doomed.
IKR People are just so gullible 😂😂😂👍🏾
When a person this intelligent gets mad with the way things are, you know that things are really messed up and heading the wrong direction
Not if we fix it doe
Yeah we're going to solve this problem one utube comment at a time
@@joelouie5649 Nice one lol. It can really only be thwarted through proper moral education actually. You know, the objectibe difference between right and wrong that almost all of the planet is still utterly dense about. :)
Or it's just another small individual raging at their lack of control over the world around them.
Everyone intelligent is mad with the way things are. They are being suppressed by the needs of the many, whom are not very intelligent.
I admire how hard Chris langan is trying to control himself from going into a full fledged outburst
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@@Self-Duality 💪💪💪
@@InnerLuminosity 48:56 Chris langan looks like a hungry frustrated tiger who hasn't eaten in days and is watching his prey through a cage.
@@bikashgurung6054 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍
Chris is a breath of fresh air. I work in surgery around some pretty brilliant Neuro and Cardio surgeons. Take it for what it is but most of them live in the country with chickens, pigs and a garden. The simplicity seems therapeutic to a active mind in a chaotic world.
In other words, you don't work around Jews
Thank you Mr Surgeon
This! My mind is going crazy all the time, (just wouldn't stop thinking about this stuff). I finally moved up to the country. I am at much more peace now. When the mind starts to get away, I just take my dogs out to play with the chickens and put my bare feet in the grass to reconnect to the simplicity.
I think maybe that’s a simple but profound observation.
Mysticism + Math , I've never thought I would see the day, a whole new approach to self-denial. This is magnificent.
We need to boost Chris for more people to be aware of his Theory, he is one of a kind.
Just saw a 4 hour interview with Chris Langon on Curt Jaimungal's TOE channel and then TH-cam put this interview on the side panel. So, this time, the algorithm was working in Chris Langon's favor and, for sure, mine. I've been a Spiritual Scientist working with meditation and consciousness for over 35 years, not on a public platform but mostly behind the scenes. I tell my clients that if you can't live the principles of Divine Light (the word I've been using for Universal consciousness) at the grocery story or with a screaming Aunt Bertha at Thanksgiving, you're still in the realm of intellectual knowledge. Mr Langon's model of life here on Earth from my experience is spot on. Glad he finally crossed my path. Thank you for this interview and the work you are doing. I appreciate it. Glad I found your channel, too.
Welcome and spread the word!
This stuff is completely new to me. Can you recommend a book that can introduce me to these concepts? Im a bit baffled at the moment.
@@PhilMcCrackin-f3n Ask the question "who am I". Be honest and truthful about making this enquiry of yourself. One way to seek the answer, is to follow a thought, where does the thought come from, find its source.
When you see, or hear, who is it that is observing these phenomena?
@@RoastLambShanks Thanks for that you pretentious cunt. You dont have any more insight into any of it than anyone else, so stop pretending you have. Otherwise show me the Nobel prize you have won.. that would prove you are an original thinker.
Thanks for having Mr. Langan, I can`t have enough of this.
I read ctmu about 2 years ago. Been pondering it ever since. Its great to see others trying to understand it and discuss it even if you don't agree with it. Chris has soo many interesting ideas and focused on the core of everything we do. Its so critical imo that we keep an open mind and just talk about these things.
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Poetry without mathematics is mere sentiment. Mathematics without poetry is mechanistic. They must be inextricably coupled in a true language in order to represent truth and its fruition, beauty. Chris is an amazing thinker.
You ve just described the Glorious Qur'an ! Pls reserch quran mathematics.
The double slit experiment convinced me. Its as if the universe doesnt waste "cpu" rendering things you aren't looking at, exactly how a 3d video game works.
Intriguing idea!
It actually renders as potential, which changes the possible outcome from a stencil to the interference pattern 🤯
@@joospamplemoose What do you mean by stencil?
@@Pax_Mayn3 like the shape of the slits, rather than "rendering" All the possible places the electrons could have landed within the cutouts of the two slits, a single electron is rendered as a wave, changing the pattern on the wall
@@joospamplemoose But how does that look on a larger scale?
Thank you for having Chris on. I really wish people more people would listen to him.
You and ToE are providing so much amazing information on your respective channels. Lots of alternative perspectives but still highly intellectual. Love that both of you have interviews of Chris Langan. Chris can be a bit abrasive at times but the honesty and intensity is actually quite refreshing. Love how truly sincere you are, Atlas. Great stuff!!
He's abrasive because nobody understands his theory and it frustrates him. I'm the same way with politics - I honestly cannot believe that demonrats even exist. But then I realized that low IQ is synonymous with left . They're just stupid and there's nothing I can do about it
I honestly would be even more abrasive. It must be his high IQ that prevents him from being even more disagreeable.
Every now and then i get deep insights after hearing Chris speak
Chris Langan is the ultimate ☯️ of high level abstraction and real world no nonsense.
Sings: “It ain’t necessarily so...” 🎤
@@ReverendDr.Thomasand why do you think youre in a position to question Chris? Have you understanded his theory, if so, point out whats incorrect with it. You wont be able to, the CTMU is a supertautological theory and therefore youre attempts at discrediting it will always be non-logical and incorrect. You cant use logic to disprove logic itself.
@@Adamzki55555, that is rather PRESUMPTUOUS of you, wouldn’t you agree, Slave?
Presumption is evil, because when one is PRESUMPTUOUS, one makes a judgement about a matter, despite having insufficient facts to support one’s position.
Incidentally, it’s called “Spell-Check”. ✅
Look into it, SILLY Sinful Slave. 👨🏻🎓
understood*@@Adamzki55555
@@Adamzki55555 Lol, I think you described Emperor's new clothes.
I try to watch Chris as offen as I can, minimum once a month. He's a wealth of knowledge and fascinating. Thank you!
I heard someone say that Mr langan lacked any practical intelligence, when that can't be farther from the truth. It's not that he's just a genius. He's personable, articulate with his words, and extremely versatile. He doesn't have a need for material things, all he needs is his home and family. He is a humbled man. I admire him greatly. It's rare to see someone with his genius actually having a personality of his own . " Your a genius cause you can't build a lamp" breakfast club
took like 10 seconds for me to figure out that the person you admire is full of shit.
I don’t get how the guy who wrote Outliers attributed Chris zero social intelligence, he actually seems exceptionally sociable for someone of his raw intellect!
@@pro-socialsociopath769 jealousy
You forgot to add on list of things he needs a "bench press" mothfer is jacked at 70. 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Simulants on similac. We need more of the opposite. Thanx. Good to hear you talk.
1:31:42 Monopoly - Centralized Market Might
1:33:00 Monopoly Manager
Ego is Control
1:37:42 Evil 😈 👿
1:39:36 Moving The Ego Moves The Future
1:40:50 “We have to fight to survive” (the guy is broadcasting from a gym)
“You’ve got to fight in the right direction. To make your fights count”
1:41:56 Collective Aggression
1:43:08 CTMU is to be Cultivated as a mindset
1:44:20 Old & New Syntax
1:45:17 Presumption, Self-Righteousness
_High level perception_
1:47:22 Metamorphosis
Artist 👨🎨 1:48:45 🖼
Chakras
1:50:27 The Colors
The 1 as Reality
Latice up and down
Unification of Interpretation,
CTMU - Common Language
1:54:00 I appreciate you too
thank you
Awesome!
It is taking me years to digest Chris' take on our reality. Still digesting and enjoying every moment of the process.
I found this channel after listening to the TOE interview with Chris. Keep up the great work! This has been quite inspirational for me, and has spurred me to get of my ass and share some connections I've been making relating science to true esoteric traditions. Amazing stuff!
I wish the audio wasn’t so terribly noise gated, it’s a strain and distracting. Please have your guests disable noise reduction, and do so yourself. Use Adobe Podcast Enhancer or something similar in post for denoising.
Oh just shut up or do your content.
I like Chris, he is smart, he got balls and good heart..
Unfortunately, intelligence doesn't necessarily correlate with WISDOM. 🤫
that is brilliant LOL, i will have to borrow this@@Nine_9s
This was a pleasure hearing. A powerful being in a human avatar.
So happy that this interview is happening! :)
What a reassuring feeling to see someone like Chris Langan, a person with such intelligence, to share my observations on many issues. It's amazing that one of the most intelligent person on earth is decent, respectful and has good moral values. It's reassuring. And it's also funny that this video only has around 10 000 views ... YT algorithm is surely invisibilizing him... He's a great guy. Nice interview btw.
We always love Chris... Chris is the best
Love the Power Rack and Olympic bar and plates in the background
Nietzche’s idea of the “warrior poet,” for the mind to be strong, the body must be as well. Cant have one without the other. A true intellectual has a rugged nature to their physicality; for example, a Cornac McCarthy...someone who is able to interact with the world and yet understand it as well. Versus the oversocialized academic who has no conception of what is true, and what is able to be done with ones own hands; instead relinquishing the responsibility and hoisting it onto those he views as beneath him. The intellectual in modernity is weakness incarnate, and as a result of the over-socialization, the lack of self-esteem/confidence, and the feelings of inferiority, will create his ideas/ideology to fit and justify his existence...making excuses and justifications as to why his inabilities are actually the signs of superiority. None of these dudes lift, none of them struggle, and none of them experience anything outside of their own echo chambers where inferiority reigns supreme.
- Chris Langan is the founder of the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU), a theory of everything that explains the connection between mind and reality
- The CTMU is based on the idea that reality is a self-configuring, self-processing language (SCSPL) that contains its own syntax and semantics, and that the universe is a self-simulation on this language¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU describes reality as a manifold of information that consists of two aspects: content and medium. Content is the information that is processed by the manifold, and medium is the information that defines the structure and dynamics of the manifold¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU also introduces the concept of telic recursion, which is the process by which the manifold generates its own content and medium through feedback loops. Telic recursion implies that reality has a purpose or goal (telos) that drives its evolution and self-optimization¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU shows that reality is both objective and subjective, and that the distinction between them is relative to the level of observation. Reality is objective at the lowest level of observation, where it is governed by the laws of physics and logic, and subjective at the highest level of observation, where it is governed by the laws of consciousness and cognition¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU also shows that reality is both discrete and continuous, and that the distinction between them is relative to the scale of measurement. Reality is discrete at the smallest scale of measurement, where it is quantized by the Planck units, and continuous at the largest scale of measurement, where it is smooth and differentiable¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU reveals that reality is both finite and infinite, and that the distinction between them is relative to the perspective of the observer. Reality is finite from the perspective of an embedded observer, who is limited by the constraints of space and time, and infinite from the perspective of a transcendent observer, who is free from the constraints of space and time¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU implies that reality is ultimately identical to God, who is the source and sustainer of all existence. God is the absolute, the one, the monad, the ultimate reality, the self-identity of the manifold, the self-simulation of the SCSPL, the self-awareness of the consciousness, the self-creation of the telos, the self-definition of the logic, the self-expression of the language, and the self-representation of the information¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU also implies that humans are part of God, and that they have the potential to realize their divine nature and purpose. Humans are sensors and controllers of reality, who can perceive and influence the manifold through their cognition and action. Humans are also co-creators of reality, who can participate in the telic recursion and contribute to the evolution and optimization of the manifold¹²⁴⁷.
- The CTMU also touches on some social and political issues, such as the centralization of wealth and power, the mass awakening of humanity, and the importance of logic and mathematics for understanding reality¹²⁴. Langan criticizes the global elite, who he claims are exploiting and manipulating the masses for their own benefit, and advocates for a more decentralized and democratic system of governance, where people can exercise their free will and sovereignty. He also encourages people to seek the truth and knowledge, and to use logic and mathematics as tools for exploring and comprehending reality¹²⁴.
References:
- [Simulation #785 Chris Langan - CTMU](^1^)
- [#785 Chris Langan - CTMU by Simulation](^4^)
- [CTMU, MADE SIMPLE: Chris Langan's CTMU, Explained in 8 Minutes or Less](^3^)
- [Major Papers](^7^)
- [CTMU Tutorial](^8^)
- [Patreon](^9^)
- [CTMU videos](^10^)
Source: Conversation with Bing, 11/26/2023
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Nice breakdown!
@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt I am not. I just put my work where my passion is. Maybe I could be? 🤔
@@Self-Duality thank you!
@OnceTheyNamedMeiWasnt 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
This is something, we need to open up to this I think he is on the path to truth! The mystics were spouting this truth for thousands of years but it's great the Chris is bringing it to the forefront of modern science.
Chris Langan is the John to Jesus. The one that comes in and introduces the framework for the new reality. The one that introduces God to the masses. How do you know a great man when you see him? This man is a working man. Bless his heart. With no formal education, yet he comes up with a framework that explains everything. That is the definition of greatness expelled from God. Bless this man. Greatness to me being from which does knowledge come. Knowledge being a gift from the divine presence. God. He has been blessed with this great knowledge and is now using it to educate people into a transitional period of time. Greatness. I feel blessed to have found him and blessed to be able to comprehend his beautiful theory. I thank him, and I thank this channel for allowing him to bring it forth. Amen. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊.
@tomhahn2633
That was eloquently put brother. Amen
Get this man on the JRE!!!
It's what the world needs!
Maybe the most important day in history
JRE is controlled by the enemy. He'd never have someone on who really understands what's going on.
@@Winslow920 riiiiggghhhhht
@Owen Carey it’s more the reach he has
This guy has the most complex way of saying the simplest things I’ve always thought. Neat.
Neat? Ok. I respect people who say complex ideas in simple language. This guy is a word salad pseudo-science grifter whose entire shtick is constructing overcomplicated sentences from tinfoil-hatty ideas and hoping in an 'Emperor's new clothes' kinda scenario.
@ I was being sarcastic. We’re saying the same thing.
20:22 absolute gold. great interview fellas. need more Professor Langan!
I can tell he’s a genius because of the barbell in the back with the rack. Anyone who is that smart will perfect his body not just mine.
i felt great gratitude hearing chris talk about us all
I’m glad to see Mr Langan getting more traction
His work changed my life for the better, highly recommended
How did it change your life?
@@stephencarlsbad Dualism has a way to lead you to some pathological modes of behavior that will inevitably leave you depressed and confused. By refuting it Langan gave us the tools to better understand modernity and the natural world as a whole.
@@samacvuk How does dualism lead you to pathological behavior?
Dualism should only exist as a means to study and master any particular domain.
So the idea that dualism is a real force acting on us is a self-disqualifying theory.
I dont think that we need a unique and extravagant theory like Langan's CTMU theory to right our psychological ship if dualism has threatened to capsize it.
Simply realizing that all is one and that one is an unseparable yet individualized representation of the all should be enough to quell any existential angst.
But this idea has been around long before Langan showed up.
@@stephencarlsbad I do think you are right, it is just not how I personally have experienced it. Langan's CTMU was my first contact with the idea of unifying mind and reality, dualism was the only interpretation of reality I had read about before which led me to second guess the validity of everything I could perceive at every turn, relying heavily on the scientific method to think about all facets of consciousness.
He has a lot of practical wisdom
This is fantastic. And for some reason I would love to see Chris and Patrick Ryan at the same table having a discussion.
Chris is 100% spot on accurate in his expression of ultimate reality. I am definitely going to have to reach out to Chris and have a conversation with him because this is exactly how I see the universe as well. Chris is one of the only other human beings that seems to enjoy a meta coherence on Divine operations.
My background is in computer science and network topology, and our computer sciences and network sciences ra representation and a metaphor for how actuality operates.
All matter as perceived is a projection from a non-local source origin point, a metaphysical realm....
I can go on and on, must reach out to Chris for further discussion, this excites me to my core because as Chris points out in order to combat inevitable enslavement of mankind through accelerated centralization of pretentious authority figures, we must disseminate and propagate the word, the good word of Truth and ultimate reality.
You are a nobody w/ 24 subscribers. Please reach out to Chris Langan who I think is a total nobody.
Fun game: drink for every “cool” toke for every “nice” you’ll be self actualised in no time
He sounds like a pervy photographer commenting on a model’s poses.
This was such a great interview! I am new to CTMU but I find it to be a fascinating and intuitive model that resonates with many of my mystical experiences. I also liked the way you helped direct his "aggression" in to a consensus moment. I would agree with you, that true shift that is coming for the collective is going to blow the existing control structures away. It will be like we are starting over, only this time with the ability to perceive higher consciousness and divine order. One might even say the veil will be removed. You don't remove the rock by struggling with the level of consciousness that created it. It is hard for Chris to see this because there is a part of him that does not believe it will happen. What will be the catalyst that brings this shift about? it is love.
A Ron Jeremy non-dual syntactor is elemental to the SCSPL, as evidenced by Chris’ mustache. On a more serious note, it is great to see Chris taking the time and demonstrating the patience to explain aspects of his theory to a range of interlocutors approaching it from different disciplines and different levels of initial comprehension.
Ron Jeremy = Chris Langan. Identity… LMAO
By far the best interview of Chris ever. I noticed some new terms he is using that are superb, such as positive intentionality. This surprises me because I believe he may have found this is a place that I'd not expect him to know about. Chris keeps surprising!
There’s another recent interview he did which is very good as well!
@@patrickanthony3632 where can that be seen?
@@Mr.Goodkat
You've probably seen it here on TH-cam! it's titled "Chris Langan on IQ, The Singularity, Free Will, Psychedelics, CTMU, and God"!
@@patrickanthony3632 thanks.
A great discussion, how have I not come across Chris before, a fascinating individual.
It takes a while. At first I was extremely skeptical, of course a naturally healthy state, but keep studying philosophy and it makes even more sense. I cannot stand the corruption and greed it seems so unnecessary at the cost of Mankind.
I agree that block-chain/crypto currency has its weaknesses, but I have noticed it's educating a lot of new people about the nature of money, how limitations of its supply affect its value, how centralized fiat money is, etc.
Its allowing for a separate economy, even if its origins maybe suspect. ;)
Joe Rogan should invite this guy
How do we start a campaign to make it happen?
Meh. That's not really the purpose of the podcast anymore I feel. He has people like Amit Goswami on before. But hes a physicist, and that was years ago. His podcast is just about having a good time, what's going on now, and strong/kind interpersonal skills. Just my opinion. Edit: *I disagree now, get Chris on the JRE ASAP!!¡*
@@gxlorp The CTMU is what's going on now. ;) I guarantee Joe interviewing Chris would be super interesting and could easily fit in with his other content. It's a TOE so just basically any topic could be covered.
Chris and Alex Jones at the same time 😂
It'll never happen. Rogan is unfortunately controlled by the same enemy (elite) that Langan speaks against. There's no way they'd allow him on.
Lagan should do an interview with Jordan Peterson. What Lagan articulates explicitly, Jordan explains psychologically and average people pick up on it intuitively. That is to say the average cannot articulate it but they can feel it. Or at least people who are not consumed with ego and who are willing to risk questioning that which they believe to be true can feel it. Lagan is clearly a genius and a fountain of information that has gone unopened for far too long. Though the timing is impeccable on the part of all that is. Reality might well save itself. My only concern with Langan is that his temperament can get the better of him. I'm glad that the interviewer touched upon it and it was nice to see Langan is aware of his flaws and I imagine he's working on it given his patience over the first hour. Given enough he might be able to hold out for 2 or even 3 hrs some day hopefully and I would say that as a friend and not with a tone of condescension.
If I could say anything to him directly it would be that he is not alone in his understanding. Those who can understand it and even those who can only feel it, know how dire the need for the human singularity is. The public clearly is in want of it, even the lefty loonies as misguided as they are in their unending tirade of stupidity. All it will take is Langan in the right place, at the right time, with the right discussion for him to instantly become very popular, as I believe more people will be capable of understanding what he is saying than he realizes. It is mostly the vocabulary that impairs the average as most do not understand syntax and how it works.
However, he does need a audio/video means of breaking down the information in his paper as most people find those forms of media easier to digest than the papers. I would suggest breaking it all down point by point and speaking in depth as much as possible with someone more a laymen who is capable of conveying analogies that are more relatable for average people. That is why I suggest Jordon Peterson, as his work and encouragement of people to take on responsibility and the like is screaming for such an outline as the CTMU.
We need a middle man to bridge the gap between Langan's genius and the average. An interview with Peterson would do just this.
Astute observations. The trouble being this incredibility smart and somewhat disagreeable is high levels of frustration. He’s sees patterns and conceptual frameworks so easily it must tough for him when “smart people” can see little he can.
Have you checked Langans wiki? Says he has claimed that the George W. Bush administration staged the 9/11 attacks in order to distract the public from learning about the CTMU. Sounds like a right nutter.
@@vaettra1589 Yeah I know he's lost me after I went into his claims more. Guy might be a genius but his ego has the best of him and he'll probably never overcome it.
jordan is not that smart, i think langan would get more frustrated with jordan than others because he probably knows that even jordan isnt smart enough to understand langan that easily but because everyone is hyping him up, if he gives him a chance and when he does mess up, it's going to be frustrating
@@legionreaverit doesn’t matter how smart Peterson is; Peterson’s ego is gigantic
It would only result in poking the bear in Langan, giving a bad interview and the opposite of your outcome.
Also fwiw, Peterson is a racist and misogynistic asshat whose fame mostly comes from explaining the self explanatory to the truely clueless. He’s not dumb but he’s far from super intelligent.
The smartest man alive speaks, and Edison's wax cylinders somehow sound better. Please, next time, no big empty reverberant room and no aggressive noise reduction applied, included the one embedded in the streaming app. Also, a cheap headset minimises the above problems. Thanks!
I would have to educate myself on CTMU, sounds revolutionary but I like Chris’ view of the oligarchs, people with limited mental ability who are obsessive of material gains and power (slave masters). What is power in the greater sense of the universe, men and women who want to control a grain of sand. Knowledge is the greatest power.
I really like the powerful and earthy intelligence of Chris Langan. He's right on all of it. We have to roll up our sleeves and shatter that ''Rock''. Evil does exist and it is very obviously growing in its dark terrible malice.
I've met really intelligent religious people before across many different religions, as a non religious person , I have come to the conclusion, that really intelligent people know that there is more going on than our objective reality, and some of them feels comfort linking that to a specific belief.
They don't link it, they know. It's intuitive.
Damn.... The rack behind him makes me utterly happy!
Mind AND body!
Not just 5 years of college and calling yourself an expert....
The main question the host is debating with himself: Can Artistic Endeavors be structured by scientific systems and still be valuable coherent events?
This question has already been answered. The Music of European Classicism, like Mozart, are DELIBERATELY based on Mathematics. Music was rejected by other practitioners if it broke with Mathmatics.
The painting and sculpting arts of Leonardo and Michael D'Angelo's period were also dictated by Mathematics in the form of Geometry.
Preforming arts were dictated by the combination of the pure math of the music and the expressive Geometry of movement, starting with the Opres built around the Mathematical Music of Classicism.
These movements in the Artistic Mind evolved into the exploration of Fractal Math/Geometry when it was discovered that Light itself had as many frequencies as Sound. Artists began to explore Frequencies and Fractal Layering. Began to examine Chaos and Randomness.
That led to the brickwall of Nonsense. Or the loss of Meaning by over absorption of perspectives. Informational Static.
The Hyper-Realizm movement in Art of the last 3 decades of the 20th century is the beginning of return to Focus from Static.
The better the artist/composer comprehends Mathematics, Frequencies, and the Geometry of Relationship/Movement.. the more exquisite and meaningful the product. Example: whatever the product of a Master Craftsman, the intuitive understanding of these 3 categories of science always brings forth exquisite objects. Always.
Chris is definitely having an issue with explaining CTMU in terms that would be understood by the mass population. As smart as he is, unless he pairs his theory of reality, organization and structure with actual political title or space of power where this can be implemented, CTMU will remain just a concept.
Terrific! That summary in the first 4 minutes says it all. Thank you!!
Always fun hearing from Chris
Great conversation. They both are seeing a way out of human ignorance,and apathy towards evil's stranglehold on our reality
I see the key term Chris was using is "if we ALLOW". Telesis includes the sensing of what feels right, and if there is no fight against the discomfort of being controlled, then we can CHOOSE to create a system that is so broken that it could cease to exist on this planet. That doesn't mean that elsewhere it will not succeed, because I'd think it will, but on Earth, if we ALLOW being controlled then a controlled state of affairs could manifest that is antithetical to Telesis and thus have the energy deallocated from here to where it can be put to better use.
Great discussion! Also, I don't agree with Chris as saying that there is positive intentionality and a separate issue of "moving the rock" and getting angry. There is righteous anger that is essential for positive intentionality. Positive intentionally can't exist without this as a component. In this view, there is no "problem" of positive vs. fighting for the right... they are part of the same intention.
I would suggest that there is sufficient righteous anger when one is able to envision any number of rock-based perfect eventualities, let's say, and constrain oneself preferring equanimity before having assembled a critical Mass number of individuals to "catch on" that energy and to be directed; else, it is likely to be misinterpreted as garden variety crazy when it only builds on itself within the same person, never reaching the number needed to be productive and lead to an expected outcome that is clearly more desirable, with high degree of probability of playing ou
@@robincheungmbarealtorbroke8461 As Chris wonderfully states, the universe must see itself in order to correct itself. The good news is that we don't have to do it and yet it will happen (the ongoing adjustment). The question is what you will and are willing to be part of and what you will do about it.
That isn't even a question--each of now four times I've had to restart my entire life from penniless, homeless, and last time, I didn't even get to keep a shirt on my back for the cliche, it was because I willingly walked through a completely broken system the magnitude of the injustice each time transcending our much-abused language that there remains no unambiguous means to convey a number of social contexts--another would be the situation where a son or daughter finds himself utterly unable to communicate the literal "my mom's gonna kill me! No I'm serious she's Literally gonna kill me. Just watch. I'm going to open that door, and walk ri--
I refer to it as a social parallel of the blessing that the IUPAC has bestowed upon us with such "if it ain't broke, well actually, even if it be broke, just defer to our kids to deal with it" so we continue to promulgate a word that did used to refer to odour, but now achieves maximal obfuscation through its use in referring to a stability imparted by the delocalized pi bonds in aromatic compounds & heterocyclic amines as if words don't matter.
Well, having personally experienced the degree to which words do matter, having been raised in an atheist aspiritual household, but through serving the traditional Latin Mass for four years every day at least once when I sought refuge from the most difficult years of the parental alienation that eventually achieved its goal after a decade and a half three times making me beg our daughters grandparents "under what stars does Katie fall asleep by each night??!" A product of a biased family court system that didn't even so much as give a "by the way--you can't just up and disappear in the middle of the night without a separation agreement in place and have your parents lie about where you are!" The result, of course, was leaving the reinforcing feedback that caused it's to happen three more times moving entire cities leaving me to find out after the fact--in any case, it's now the a fourth systemic Trainwreck I don't have the benefit of not being able to clearly foresee and try to mitigate years in advance in some cases: I guess, because now looking back, it was only by*not* allowing myself to be consumed by anger that I have been able to walk straight through a situation to let their severity become visible sometime in the future retrospection, and after twice having built myself back up to begin achieving a modicum of success in record time, I knew without an actual subject to walk through whirling knives without compromising the clarity of the message with my own [I compare it to how a dog will bite you while you're extricating the proverbial rusty nail from its paw, and that becomes the first fault for people to find when a situation is outside their set of experiences and they cannot relate it to a real situation or experience in their past, then they cannot acquire any notion of an accurate representation of what you describe, so automatically (especially if you are emotional and distraught, nevermind angry, you will see it amplifies your own victim blaming that each time will eventually cause a normal person to appear schizophrenic due to the inability of your brain to process emotionally the fact, when it hits you, that they have judged you but continue to patronize you, and you've become the "bad guy" in their minds--the more desperate that will make you feel, since if you identify as a neurodivergent person who abhors insincerity and even foreseeable yet unavoidable misrepresentation, it is the emotional roller coaster that not everyone
My point is,v if you remember the line about how "love is patient," even you will easier understand what it is that I'm triangulating you towards. And add that surely you have seen the trend in number and frequency of trajactories that can be sa
@@robincheungmbarealtorbroke8461 My own estimate is not only is this dimension in the process of "passing the filter", I have been predicting this even in the darkest recent days when as much as 80% were succumbing to heavy mind-control. In hypothesis is that while Chris' implication that this may be a close call is an important point, the filter has already been passed many places elsewhere, and such entities (telors if you wish) are allowed and often encouraged to help. If true, this is more of an intermediate algebra test were the goal is education than a real brush with extinction. That said, free will means that the book has not been written, and choices can always take any dimension (for lack of a better term) down a dark path. In sum, I believe we agree. If there is love, it has been cultivated by the universe in "the past" and can indeed impact the here and now. If it could, why wouldn't it?
Chris, you have the patience of a saint.
I think this (although I'm most probably wrong) is what Chris was getting at. You have Telesis, which is the monic substrate of reality (or the fundamental, or irreducible, "substance"-substance used loosely here-of reality). Telesis is dual-aspected, it is both medium and processor of said medium. The universe is _a_ medium, nested within the most fundamental medium, which is the Conspansive Manifold. You have Telesis, you have secondary Telors *(footnote: I don't know where the Primary Telor fits in, i.e. God-so I'll leave that aside).* and then you have the Medium. Then, to complete this, you have Telic Recursion, which is the final stage of reality _cognizing_ itself, so to speak. As far as I can tell, Chris stresses that this last process is of utmost importance. Reality absolutely needs Secondary Telors in order to have any knowledge whatsoever of itself; without them, it is blind to itself. This self-cognizing has to take place within a medium. And thus you have an absolutely sublime, trialic model of reality. This is the architecture of reality, so to speak. I'll leave it there, if someone could tell me where I'm wrong, that would be great. That's how I registered what was said. I have to say, when you start to grasp this metaphysic, you start to think, "Yes! Of course! It could not be any other way."
I would say that the primary Telor "god" would be the monad. I guess from that singular state it is generating the whole multiplicity world to begin with. And I guess as the multiplicity state generates secondary telors, then the primary telor has a perfect view of the multiplicity world from the singular state. Us secondary telors stuck in the illusion of the multiplicity have blind spots since we lost the monad/singular perspective. I guess our purpose is to become "the one" and experience ultimate reality as god does,simultaneously as the primary, secondary and tertiary telors?
I agree that some of the concepts I comprehend match up with my model and couldnt be any other way, as you say. I just wish he would walk us more simply through his system in a specific example rather than so much general talk. Like ok, here is a glass, the glass is the content. Then what is the medium? space? I guess the glass and its unperceivable surroundings are both the same thing at the quantum level. But, they are factorized by relativity and stratification. So, deep sapce is basically just the quantum stratified layer. The space with air has another layer and the space with the glass has another layer. And thus we have density. I'd like to hear it laid out like this with all the terms put into it and then add in the observer/cognition, etc. lol
I agree that some of the concepts I comprehend match up with my model and couldnt be any other way, as you say. I just wish he would walk us more simply through his system in a specific example rather than so much general talk. Like ok, here is a glass, the glass is the content. Then what is the medium? space? I guess the glass and its unperceivable surroundings are both the same thing at the quantum level. But, they are factorized by relativity and stratification. So, deep sapce is basically just the quantum stratified layer. The space with air has another layer and the space with the glass has another layer. And thus we have density. I'd like to hear it laid out like this with all the terms put into it and then add in the observer/cognition, etc. lol
@@Phaze-rb3mp That would be nice if he did that.
Thank you for the interview!
this man says .." usually limited unless im getting some kind of help or occupying some higher form of consciousness " 8:30
Lol such a nice subtlety plopped in there 🌞🪞😇
I missed it the first time.
Chris is a smart guy trying to sound like a regular guy, Atlas is a regular guy trying to sound like a smart guy.
Exactly! I was kind of frustrated when Atlas keep saying nonsense words and getting nowhere to get an answer lol
facts, clear as day to see
Like a French friend of mine, who was also smart, he married a woman with a good income, which alleviates the problem of living alone and taking society's barbs.
Your syntax is implanted into by people that don’t have your best intentions at heart! ie that’s when that tone comes out! You can hear him mimic that tone when he talks about experts talking about metaphysical
I support him and will continue
Fascinating stuff. Well done. Thanks for doing the interview
Highest IQ probably on the planet and a home gym where to get massive. He's got his priorities straight.
Why is a bunch of muscle (i.e. at that level) _necessary,_ exactly?
@@shimrrashai-rc8fq Muscles do not stay as they are for ever. Physical activity is directly connected with best health during aging, especially weight lifting. This does not mean growing muscles indefinitely.
What interesting is that Quantum mechanics is now proving a lot of historical philosophers right, even ancient ones, who didn't have the means of scientific investigation that we do, and yet they were able to see these things. Ironic, we started to neglect ancient knowledge and wisdom, and now we are starting to come full circle.
Well, I must not be too stupid. My concept of consciousness runs hand n hand with his. 🤷🏻♂️ I didn’t hear his concept before now. Pretty cool to hear the most intelligent man in the world put it into his words.
😌👌🧬💥
Thanks for being pumped for mentoring enjoy this interview
Thank you Chris. God bless you.
Thank you Chris,that’s totally the truth 👍👍👍☮️☮️☮️✝️✝️✝️
So long as they keep people glued to the screen they control everything.
Very Good Chris I'm with you.
there is struggle, there are obstacles, there is the sense of working towards a goal and all of these things can lead to accomplishment that is meaningful.. then there is suffering, suffering brought down on us by those few who make all the rules and steal all the reward... The world is full of evil agendas that lead to extreme suffering that has NOTHING to do with growth and nothing to do with learning. This programmed and conditioned suffering that we have been taught is necessary is exactly what actually keeps many of us from true growth and from any accomplishment.
Chill out, life and existence isnt that serious. so dramatic and cringe lol
@@PeterGibbonns you obviously are an empty vessel.
I dont even know what that means. Just because i am not getting filled with truck driver cream every night doesn’t mean i am empty.
@@PeterGibbonns T-roll go back in your basement and eat your pizza. but of course it's likely you are just a computer bot, unable to feel what it might be like to be a living being who suffers. maybe you do need a good filling in the back end by a trucker, although I wouldn't wish that on the trucker.
@@wildnkarafree Lol i cant really get offended by some weirdo Trump Anti Vaxer. We all know your old ass had vaccines as a kid.
A Lex Fridman - Chris Langan conversation could be quite interesting.
He may well be the greatest metaphysicist living in these times, and maybe the greatest who ever lived.
Definitely.
Bear in mind that Conspansion = Reincarnation.
I agree. 2 aspects set him apart:
1) Superior IQ
2) Lack of indoctrination compared to others with such high IQ.
It's such a rare combination that idk if there's anyone else comparable. People severely underestimate how limiting the current indoctrination of our education system really is. They don't see it because, well, they've been indoctrinated by it.
You and so many others have been snowed. He's spewing nonsensical word salad. Most of it makes no sense, and there is zero empirical evidence for his far out claims and speculations.
Second half of this is a trip! Don’t knock what he says, I think it’s really close to what’s going on right now. Is delusional to deny. It’s bad. Just an imperfect way of getting whatever is in his head to ours. Keep looking into it, whoever you are
What is Langans proposed solution regarding “the rock” how does he think we need to move towards decentralization?
‘You follow me?’
My mind: ‘I’m trying to, kind Sir!’😃😃
😂👌
A person of depth and sound reason, I subjectively intrigued.
Yes there is absolutely a permanent ultimate dependency on God but also an illusion of separation and independence for the sake for true free will. You cant have free will if there is isn't an option to do wrong available.
His theory coincides with Mexican scientist Jacobo Grinberg who studied a shamanic woman known as Pachita. I know, I know, woo woo stuff, but I recommend reading about his theory, which is similar to Langan's, and it is the reason I was brought here again in my research about these topics.
In essence, they both would seem to fundamentally agree that in the universe there is a structure/medium with which our consciousness (itself manifested as an electromagnetic field that extends in all directions) is able to interact with and manipulate the energy/information therein and therefore determine reality.
Grinberg would go a step further and say that all brains have the capacity to connect with each other when they are at a high level of coherence (the individual experiences a sense of unity when the brain is in a highly coherent state). From the linkage between multiple brains, a collective mind is produced that is able to share thoughts and feelings between each of the individual brains.
Grinberg disappeared in 1994 under unknown circumstances. Never seen again.
oh damn
Our aggression is being either accidentally through pollution or deliberately reduced. Testosterone levels are dropping and it's only getting worse. Im not sure we're gonna get through the filter, certainly not me anyway.
57:19 this was so strange, the video became low quality and the audio became drastically clearer, then the video cleaned up and the audio went back to roomy webcam
It just occurred to me that the CTMU doesn't get the attention it deserves because it's solving problems physicists won't run into for 85 years. Then, plucked from the dark...
Bingo… 💥 Metaphysics is not even contemplated as a formal discipline right now, never mind seriously explored.
I reached many of the same conclusions that Chris has. I feel totally validated. Thanks Chris. You’re amazing.
youre prolly also 200 IQ then 😯
Yea fkn right.
@@loopeygoopey not that high. Somewhere between 130 and 140.
Here before metareligion blows up
Imagine a debate between a Chris and an atheist. It would be great!
Reality is the medium
5:40 - 6:00 beatufilly worded way to put it. there's a great awakening brewing, peace n love
You can not have distractions while watching this video.
What Langan says about the ultimate costintuents of reality, which he calls "points", reminds me of Leibniz monads.
In fact, according with Langan theory these points have both internal and external states as they're basically information processing units.
Similarly, monads in Leibniz metaphysics are the ultimate costituents of reality and they're "spiritual" not material.
Consciousness is ultimate reality. The universe is just a projection.
Thanks Mr C.Langan..
Nice interview. Syndiffeonesis in action!
Does anyone remember reading "The Emperor's New Clothes" as a child? I'm so pleased that the universe knows itself within a manifold being temporarily dualistic in infinte potential. Blah blah blah. I'm now off to bath the cat.
Excellent job