As a long time Linux user - who almost *never* uses the command line, I like to say, "I can fix all your Windows problems with this Linux install... then you'll have Linux problems." LOL. Honestly, Linux has gotten better and better while Windows has remained... well, Windows. If you don't use fussy third party apps, have older hardware and are only interesting in email, web surfing and light gaming, Linux is a good choice. Having choices is good.
Honestly Windows is getting worse and worse. With my Dlink wifi adapter, Windows has pushed this bullshit ass update that fucks around with it big time, a lot of the times when I download files, particularly large files it would timeout and have weird issues downloading a file after one of its feature updates. I had to install Windows using couple of years old ISO and if works but after some feature updates come through, then it again screwed up so I have to revert back to the previous build. The issue is is that the previous build is no longer getting security updates. On Debian and Arch based distros I don't get any wifi adapter related issues. It just works! Also Windows seems to be getting more and more bloated with more spyware, now with Windows 11 you are even forced to create a Microsoft account before you can login. Like why the fuck should I need to do that? Why can't I just create a local account?
@@johnnyblack4261 Tried zorin os and mint, have a Realtek with rtl8812bu chipset and nothing has ever worked, I've tried every driver there is and still no luck. It works perfectly on Windows though and that pisses me off
By the way, to solve the issue at 6:30 (can only play Linux games on Steam) you can... 1. Open Steam 2. In the top right of the Steam window, click "Steam." It should have the Steam logo next to the text. 3. In the drop down window from said button, press "Settings." 4. Find "Compatibility" on the side bar of the window that just opened. It has the Steam logo next to it. 5. Enable the toggle on "Enable Steam Play for all other titles." 6. Press "Restart Steam." Then you can play all your Windows only games on steam!
As another linux user, your mileage may vary with the steam compatibility tool. Some games work great. Others are essentially unplayable. If gaming is a big deal, either be ready to be doing a lot of configuration and setting up vms or just dual-boot windows.
@@mothcatcher893as a linux user, most of the games run better than Windows, like genshin impact, elden ring, VR chat, and much others, in The protonDB you can check how to run some games, and its easy to fix, and exist The proton GE which is modified to run most of the games without ajust it... there is only 43 games borked, and one of them is destiny 2, because bungie doesnt like linux, they call "insecure" and have banned some linux users
@@mothcatcher893 Idk if you've tried the newer proton versions, but nowadays almost everything works out of the box on steam (Except for MP games with Anti-Cheat)
Best way to switch to linux is first using libre programs on Windows and seeing if you can do without adobe until Adobe and stuff decide Linux market share worthy enough. I personally learned all of my hobbies with foss programs to start with even before knowing about Linux, so it was awesome to switch!
@Bobby T also agree. When I started out with Ubuntu in middle/high school the only 2 pieces of software I was mainly looking to use were Chrome and Steam and they both had Linux versions. Meant instead of my initial experience being one of looking for replacements for all sorts of things I use daily, it was one of exploring this crazy new thing that I didn't even know was possible. Unity felt so modern at the time that I was blown away that hardly anybody knew about it or used it. Exciting feeling when things "just work"!
Persistent live USB installs are a much better method for those who want to experience Linux. It's not expensive or tasking on system resources. A 64gb USB flashed with Ubuntu (or whatever supports persistent USB) will work just fine (although I HIGHLY recommend you use a 3.0 drive in a 3.0 port). Plus live USB's can be used on any system you can access the BIOS on. Meaning that at the minimum, it's a good tool if your Windows system fails in order to recover files, and access the internet.
The end of the video is just so relatable... I've been using Linux at work for years but I always used (mainly) Windows at home for gaming and office stuff. Recently, Windows has started acting more and more strange with my TV connected to the PC (resolution issues, wrong app scaling, taskbar resizing, tray icons being the wrong size...). I didn't have any plans to switch my home PC to Linux but when Windows started freezing on Win+Arrow moving windows from/to TV and wouldn't stop pestering me to upgrade to windows 11 with TikTok preinstalled, I just had enough. I'm actually surprised that setting everything up was relatively easy and I've had way less issues than I thought I would. I'm not really a good comparison for "out of the box" experience as I insisted on using Arch just like I do at work but I think I can weigh in and say I am surprised that everything *is there* and in good enough shape. Drivers for my graphics card? No problem. Drivers for my HP printer? Surprisingly no big problem. Gaming? Works really well thanks to Steam+Proton. There are still some things I miss but Linux has come a long way as a Desktop platform.
If you're advanced that's not the case at all. Why would I wanna go back to Windows when I can do so much more with Linux? I can create my own custom stuff, edit whatever I want, add whatever functionalities I want. I've written scripts that automate so many things. In fact, doing some of those tings manually would be extremely time-consuming and exhausting. And that's all built within programs, UI, custom shortcuts, custom apps, you name it. Using windows is an absolute downgrade for me. And even if I wasn't advanced just for the UI alone I'd stick with it (that's what i actually drew me at first before I knew about all the possibilities). You can get libreoffice to be mostly compatible with the latest ms office and video editors like kdenlive, shotcut to replace whatever adobe products there are on windows. Not to mention I don't like adobe at all. Couldn't stand it the moment I layed eyes on photoshop. I dont like photoshop, premiere, ms office at their very cores. Doesn't even have to do with them being paid and closed source. They're all confusing, inefficient and lame. When I was on Windows I used other, much simpler video editors (where things are automated - ex - auto trim space on delete). Unless you're a professional you can easily live without MS and Adobe products. And even if you are (though it depends), you might still be able to get away with it
@@ent2220 true I've got several shellscripts and python scripts on my custom path directory that does so much of the stuff I want to automate Defiantly not switching to Windows. I do have a couple things I miss tho (namely ms paint, ms PowerPoint and rainmeter) other than that, Linux works incredibly
For me using Linux is almost like a hobby. I find it makes using a computer so much more fun. Whereas most Windows machines are nearly identical, no two Linux [desktop] installs are quite the same especially after you've been using it for a bit. You slowly tweak and adjust and add extensions and things until you've crafted an experience that's exactly how YOU want it. That takes time and effort and a real interest so it's understandable why most people who aren't interested in that type of thing don't tolerate weird bugs and compatibility issues as some sort of challenge but instead see them as roadblocks.
Precisely! I love fixing Linux, because it helps me understand the OS in a deeper way. I do certainly understand why people would get frustrated with it, you need a certain mentality for it.
@@gary4689For me exactly that experience made me love linux, when I started with Ubuntu back in 2014. Before I was totally helpless, whenever a problem occured with windows. I was mostly told to either simply buy a newer pc (which I couldn't afford), or to just reinstall windows, when an update broke something. Now on Linux I could research a problem, find a detailed description, repair it myself and learn something about the system as well. And since I used to own only old hardware, Linux Distros were the first OSs that ran stable and effortlessly on it. Before I had anxiety attacks whenever opening a new program or window on Windows.
Used Windows for the longest time. Tried Linux a couple times (Ubuntu, Arch), but didn't have the patience to figure it out. Finally decided to put Debian on an old ThinkPad I had last year, and actually put the time into learning how to use and customize it. It's way faster using the terminal for a lot of tasks if you know what you're doing since you just have to type a bit of text instead of clicking through a bunch of menus and dragging stuff around. I rarely even use the mouse anymore, since I've got dwm set up to automatically snap+resize windows, and move them between work spaces with shortcuts. Also, having a central repo for all your applications is great- it's real easy to update everything at once. Don't think I use Windows for anything other than gaming, which is slow on my T530 anyway.
this. One of the most annoying things to ever exist on Windows is searching for and installing programs/apps. Having the Terminal, I set up my Linux laptop so fast that I thought I had missed something. But nope, it was ready to go in like 15-20 minutes instead of the 2+ hours of searching for, downloading and manually installing everything. It's one of the main reasons why I run Linux as my main OS to this day.
@@PvtAnonymous its funny that macOS and linux both have good installation systems with dmgs and package managers, but windows is still stuck in the 90s with .exe and zip files lol.
the first try with pop os, the errors may have been due to the iso getting corrupted somehow during download, thus why redownloading it completely made the errors disappear
While that would be an explanation, I don't think I've ever seen a file corruption caused by occurred during the download itself. The protocol usually handles that and requests corrupted parts again. But never say never I guess.
@@DouglasWalrath The checksums are (also) meant to validate the integrity when using a mirror, to detect if one has tempered with it. Just as an addition.
Could also be that there was some UEFI setting that the Mint installer changed. After all, the unspoken reason for Secure Boot is to make it more difficult to use alternative OSes. That's why it took mass outcry to get Microsoft to promise that only the ARM devices would be tivolized, while the x86 devices were required to limit their rejection of Linux booting to incompetence (hello, HP) rather than malice.
Great to hear someone trying Linux and admitting that their issues are likely due to lack of knowledge/experience and not that “Linux is terrible”. I spent years swapping between Windows and Linux and then swapping back to Windows to play certain games etc, I now dual boot my gaming pc to play games with AntiCheat on windows. But once you really become familiar with Linux, the CLI becomes a helpful tool - not a hindrance, and you will find yourself preferring Linux over windows. My advice is try it again in another 6 months, you might like it better then
Yeah, for power users I honestly find linux significantly better other than the lack of certain software. Not only the command line, but also window managers with automatic tiling are GODLY. the main issue with them is it takes time to set them up to your liking and some software doesn't work as well if it's not a single window thing. I'm personally really excited for the soon coming cosmic which combines tiling and floating and removes the hassle of setting up the tiling window manager.
I will say for me as a formerly massive grotesque Distro Hopper, EndeavourOS was the one that had me to stop doing it. Whilst it's a lot more "terminal-centric" just being able to search using paru for the program you want is amazing. Can't go back to Ubuntu PPAs and etc.
I love a visual package manager so Arch based distros always pushed me away but after testing endeavour os & using pacseek to install packages I could totally see myself using it daily if I didn't adore Linux mint so much. I do have endeavour os with cinnamon on my laptop tho.
“It installed and worked perfectly first time, but I refused to use it because it wasn’t my first choice” I get the impression that this attitude will set the tone for your experience.
@@joelfalco8735 He means the uploader will stick to what he wanted in the first place, regardless of the outcome. And he kinda did... Annoyances exist on Windows, too.
@@kintustis Exactly! I don't get why people shame others for using an OS that does what they need it to. I use Linux, because Linux works better for things that I need it for. Other people will use Windows and that's fine too. As a Linux fan-boy I hope everyone tries LInux at some point, but if it's just not for you then there's nothing wrong with that. The original commenter just sounds like "he didn't like what I like so he's wrong" which is just childish lmao
As a long term darktable user and artix linux user, i think that lightroom is limited,darktable is better because it's customizable and packs a lot of modules and settings that can speed up your raw editing. You can apply different masks for almost all darktable's modules,in my opinion color tuning is really fantastic,better than C1 and lightroom,only silkypix can offer something similar,it lacks lightroom's image blend capabilities.
I just bought a cheap used Fujitsu 2 in 1 laptop for drawing on the go. It came with an emr pen. I hopped around so many distros just to taste how it works. I finally got back to with Linux Mint Mate. No error. The printers I have work well. I have samba share folders on my Linux Mint htpc, also works flawlessly. Krita works really well despite the 4gb ram. Only Google Drive that took a little bit of time to set up because I prefer using Rclone. The things that surprised me so much are the touch sensor of the touchscreen and pen. Even the pen pressure sensitivity, they work right out of the box on every distro I tried. Both live session and fully installed. On Windows, I need to download tons of drivers just to make the touchscreen and pen work, which is more painful to set up.
Just a recommendation: If you are going to be dual-booting or even triple-booting your computer, reFind is a great program for having a single BIOS / UEFI entry and managing your boot selection.
@@somacruz8272 I know, but realize that I installed arch with grub as bootloader... And yes I used the "archinstall" script... He really shouldn't manually install arch on his system (I mean oldschool install without script)
@@imtiredtoday You shouldn't be telling anyone to use anything linux related if you're relying entirely off of install scripts to have a working kernel and bootloader. Arch users are a plague to linux development.
@@somacruz8272 "You shouldn't be telling anyone to use anything linux related if you're relying entirely off of install scripts to have a working kernel and bootloader." Isn't that what Linux development has been working toward for like the last 10-15 years??? An OTB experience where shit just does what it needs to and works? You must be a Gentoo/LFS nerd or sum.
That is great you tried Linux! I'm also glad you chose a distribution and stick with it too, 'cause many of the community will give you hate for choosing the "wrong" distribution.
I played around with Raspberry Pi OS (a Debian distro) for a few years simply for the challenge of learning a new operating system. I enjoyed learning the different commands for installing certain apps (although many were already included in the app library, like LibreOffice), and my goal was to try to make the Raspberry Pi a Windows desktop replacement.
The raspberry pi uses an arm processor. Because of that, almost non close-source apps works, making it unusable for more than simple day to day task's. While you can technically run those applications you would have to use an "emulator" (such as box86/64 or fex), because at the end of the day the pi is only an glorified phone.
@@hat8694 As someone who dislike smartphones, the Raspberry Pi is definitely NOT a glorified phone LOL. It is true that the Pi is insufficient for playing the latest games, but it is pretty good for retrogaming. RetroPi, for instance, is a decent choice to play older console and PC games. Websurfing and video playback performance is not bad at all with the Puffin browser.. Plus, the Pi is useful for more than just everyday tasks. . The Kodi media player runs just fine on the Pi 4. I have another Pi 4 that serves as my personal NAS (much cheaper and compact way of having one) and yet another acts as my Kodi home media server for all our computers and smart TV. Some folks use the Pi to run their smart home (I personally use an Odroid N2+ for that - Home Assistant). The Pi is a nice choice than can replace Windows desktop (in some key ways) and then some. Try doing that on your smartphone.
By default, changing desktops is windows+ctrl then arrow keys up or down on popos. You can change it by going to keyboard shortcuts and look for "workspace"
From what I know, the dual booting issue comes from the bootloader POP!_OS comes with by default, most distros come with GRUB, which gives you a menu on startup that lets you select what OS to boot. POP!_OS on the other hand comes with systemd-boot which usually does not do this by default, it's possible with some tweaking, but most other distros just make it a bit more convenient. Either way, I wish you the best of luck on your Linux journey :)
It's because PopOS was intended to be used as the only system you use. They're a lot into marketing, and don't want to sell their product as a second thing you use when you need.
@@talkysassis nah it isn't. Dual booting with systemd-boot is as simple as copying the boot folder across from your windows drive to the bootloader and maybe editing a config file if you want a little time to choose between OSes on boot
That's not the reason why they don't do it. Dual booting with PopOS and Windows causes problems on both sides. They recommend doing a lot of things before dual booting with Windows like turning off secure boot, turning off fast startup etc because they can make hardware bug out in PopOS.
@@methamphetamememcmeth3422 Those are all things that can happen, but the one thing that will happen and is a pain in the ass to fix is constantly having to update your system time every single time you switch between operating systems.
For window snapping, if you're using Gnome, the keyboard shortcuts for window snapping are in Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Windows, listed as "View split on left" and "View split on right". By default, they're unset (unless Pop comes with a default setting for them), and you can set them to super+left and super+right if you want. Currently, splitting into quadrants is not supported in Gnome, but may be supported with an extension or in other desktop environments.
I tried Linux on and off for 20 years, never could let go of the dual boot, Linux just seemed alien and difficult and I would invariably get stuck somewhere, the path of least resistance was to boot back into Windows. I have always had privacy concerns with Windows that get worse with every release. When MS announced end of support for windows 7 I quit Windows cold turkey. Wiped it from my home completely, being stuck with forced me to learn and each problem I solved gave me insight making the next hurtle lower and lower, now that I am through to the other side Linux is so much is better. It is a system built by users for users, you become the actual owner of your computer and it does your bidding, I wish I had went through the conversion years ago. For networking I use NFS, a Linux native competitor to SMB. It's far more reliable, and once set up it just works.
I got my first Thinkpad (T480) a few days ago, and I was originally planning on dual booting both Windows and Pop_OS with separate SSDs since I've had bad luck dual booting with partitions. After I found out that the 2242 m.2 I got wasn't compatible, I decided to just use Pop_OS only for the laptop, and it works great for me so far. It might be because I have a more casual use case for my computers for now, but even as a Linux novice I found that Pop_OS does everything I need from Windows without the bloat.
As a fellow T480 Linux user I'd like to ask you about battery discharge behavior: Which one starts discharging first? The Internal (/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0) or the external (…/BAT1)?
@@goodoldelrey Thanks. Didn't know Pop_OS has that configurable from the settings app. I need to look up how it achieves that, since on my install it usually starts with the internal one for some reason. Probably there's some little thing in sysfs that controls this.
As a long time linux user this was really neat to watch. As soon as you mentioned Photoshop I knew you wouldn't be sticking around and that's not just ok, but totally understandable. An OS needs to allow your workflow and your workflow is Adobe-centric. Still it was cool to see that beyond that your experience was pretty positive. Would be curious what caused your samba issue if you ever figure that out let us know!
@@aChairLeg Yeah, that's absolutely a reason not to use Linux--or at least, not cut yourself free from Windows. But it is driven by software, not the OS.
Actually it will more likely be the other way around: if you use Linux long enough without any major problems, when switching to Windows you might want to run away from Windows. It is exactly like that when I dual boot into the Win 11 that came with the laptop. All I need is some never-ending update to interfere or block my restart for minutes. Once you cross the tipping point it gets much better.
I'm a huge Linux advocate. I've tried switching, but my university often requires Visual Studio, which is only on Windows(Don't come at me on that Mac port). I'm in the computing department. I know I can use a KVM(Virtual Machine), but it's sometimes just a hassle. I've given up and gone the WSL2 route(Linux Virtual Machine on Windows). While my university often uses Visual Studio, there's some classes I've taken that are very platform agnostic, such as Python, SQL, or web development stuff. For these courses, I will hop my ass over to WSL2 because I've found that platform agnostic stuff to just be better on Linux. Also, once I graduate, I'm fully switching. Love Linux.
Hey, man. Just found your channel. As a long time linux user (and sysadmin/devops), I'm not gonna tell you Linux is better than Windows, or this and that... Just gonna say this. It is normal to have to deal with stuff. Belive it or not, I have your same issues the other way around. Everytime I have to do X on a windows machine, I hate it. Is not straight forward, I seems overly complicated, it's frustrating, etc. The thing is, once you get used to do things one way, doing it differently takes time to adjust. The same struggles I see currently on people trying to switch to linux, I had in the 90s too. And back then, linux was wayyyyy more rough. But once you get past that, and you understand how it works, dealing with issues, becomes the same process as dealing with issues on Windows. That being said, I also acknowledge that some might not have the right tools for their job available on linux, the same way as I don't have or are inferior on my job on Windows counterside. Regarding gaming, on my personal experience, I try to game as much as possible on Linux just to not have to switch to windows, but at the end of the day, it is not a big deal either when I do, since I am mostly going for a break and don't do much else, so I have no problem with dual booting if I want to play some game. Anyway, I'm gonna catch up with some of your other content, you just gained a subscriber. Cheers.
I've been using linux as a daily driver and my experience has been really good. This is a very good video and I hope linux keeps getting better to be suitable for your use case
a couple of years ago I switched to linux. My old 2011 macmini no longer worked and when it did, was slow as hell. I had been playing with the app Termux on my android phone and was really interested in Linux. Mint and MX linux are the best for new users. I struggled with Pop also, although Pop users swear by it. Because of my computer situation I had to use Linux. I found out that if I give linux as much effort as I gave MacOs I found the solution. Best of all they are free. And after thinking about the companies (apple and microsoft) keep bloating their software so you have to by a new computer and consquently a new OS. Planned obsolescence! No thank you. I will take some mild discomfort for saving a lot of money and sticking it to the man.
Windows compatibility has gotten a lot better on Linux. Steam doesn't enable this tool by default, but when enabled, Proton can dramatically increase the amount of games you have available to play. Definitely a far-cry from the situation a good 10 years ago, but there's still a ways to go.
re: games: steam play (proton) makes almost all "windows-only" games work pretty well on linux, you just have to enable it. for image things, you may want to look at krita and darktable for video editing, kdenlive is *probably* your best bet
I went into Linux knowing I'd have issues and have to learn new things... Everyone said use Ubuntu... After about a week I went back to Windows. After another year and reading more and seeing more reviews, I decided to try out other Distros. Manjaro KDE was great for me. I was able to do everything and so user friendly. I ran it doing everything I wanted for months without ever using command line. It helped me stick to using Linux only, and learning so much I was able to do everything I needed. I've since distro hopped constantly to so many distros and learned so much... I've been on Fedora for about 6 months now, and have no plans to go anywhere else. I find it best overall, but its not really designed for the Linux newbie unless you like to do a lot of research and even know the right questions to ask.
Darktable looks impressive: but Lightroom scores on the combination of power and ease of use, and I could grow into Lightroom, but it looks like with Darktable you'd need some pretty intensive preparation before you could begin to use its power.
One day, we will have a GUI interface for almost all the important things, and then we can start taking on Windows. Until then, learn the terminal, and embrace the keyboard.
Linux has matured enough in my eyes that it can be a daily driver for me, however i still have that once a week occasion of needing windows so i need to have both, taking up valuable storage space soo yea Linux isnt for everyone, it never eill be, but i hope it will become at least as big as macos so companies will spend time making their stupid apps that i need for school to work and integrate in the kernel for whatever reason Anyway, was glad you had an alright experience with pop
I had so many issues with PopOS on a Dell laptop. I just gave up and went back to Linux Mint. Mint is a f*cking battle tank, throw anything at it it will do the job.
It's interesting how for someone using the terminal more often is a hassle and for someone it's a boon rather than using a mouse and popping up different windows for something.
you don't need to dual boot to play beamNG you can jast use proton open steam and click on beamNG and click on beamNG settings and click on properties and click on compatibility and click on force the use of a specific steam play compatibility tool and select proton experimental and your done
Former windows/current Linux admin here. Tips to make the switch 1. Linux gaming is "fine" now, but If you are a hardcore gamer and want every game to work. Stay on windows or make a gaining windows VM. 2. If you need adobe... I'm sorry Linux isn't for you. The alternatives are good if you are not a professional. 3. The terminal is your friend, and can be made way less scary with a bash alternative like fish or zsh. However, don't expect you can use Linux without it. 4. If you don't play games, hate windows but also need adobe. Get an apple. I know most of my points are telling you not to use Linux. But honestly, Linux is amazing... And if you can live with the above minor things, Linux is the desktop for you.
Dual booting doesn't work because of the bootloader pop os uses, there are many videos you can check that shows how to configure GRUB to make it dual boot...all the best
it's very simple really. Them people will probably do it though console commands on the installed distro, but you can do it way easier and mostly though a GUI: After install: 1. boot from install/live usb once again 2. using Gnome Disks mount the Windows EFI partition and PopOS EFI partition 3. run 'sudo nautilus' in terminal to open the file manager as sudo 4. copy the 'Microsoft' folder in the EFI folder of the Windows EFI parition to the EFI folder of the PopOS EFI parition 5. and finally in the 'loader' folder of the PopOS EFI partition, add 'timeout 10' to the 'loader.conf' file this literally takes less than 10 seconds if you know the procedure and without having to memorize god only knows what terminal commands.
Popos supports dual booting out of the box. Assuming it was installed alongside windows, just hold spacebar when you boot. It will ask if you want to run Pop, Pop with the last major kernel, any other installed OS (it recognizes Windows installs), and lastly, Pop_Recovery. I keep windows on a separate drive for just when I get the itch to chase 3dmark records.
PopOS is one of the only Linux distributions that does not show the boot menu by default when you install it on a PC that also has Windows on it. It's easy enough to fix by editing one line in the grub config file, but again that requires using a terminal which you seem to feel is horribly inconvenient. For what it's worth, I have also tried Linux Mint - several times in fact - and I can't bring myself to using it either.
with the smb thing, I'm guessing you are running a linux server. In that case its a permissions issue, my mate has the same problem and changed the read/write perms on the nas using chmod or something like that so other linux users can access it. this is caused by the fact that windows completely ignores linux file perms or something to effect.
It's incredible how far Linux has come since I started using it a few short years ago. Third-party support is the biggest problem. Using discord on Wayland is a nightmare.
I must confess that Linux Mint has installed properly on everything from my old Lenovo T-500 to the new Ryzen build I'm using now. Grub lets me dual-boot with a de-cluttered version of MS Windows 10 that I use for games. Windows has no internet access, and when it tries to add "new features" you can imagine the growled response from me. I have tried popOS on the test system, and found it both snappy and stable, but not alluring enough to displace Mint on our daily drivers.
I'm very happy that I switched in 2017 to Linux. Have never used Windows again. Currently Kubuntu 22.10. Runs like muck of a stick. But all the programs you use I don't use and I don't game. Different users, different experiences. It's true though Linux isn't for everyone😉
I dual booted Manjaro on my desktop and I’m still using it like 3 weeks later. Gaming is a touch janky but I don’t game much anyways. It is working far better than I anticipated.
Nice video, pop os is going to pioneer their own desktop environment soon and then I might actually switch over. Glad someone's giving linux more attention. Seems that everyone thinks linux isn't new user friendly and requires the command line but it really doesn't
I've used linux on and off since the late 90s. I find it easier to dualboot so that's what I do. Sometimes I need windows, and sometimes I need linux. My file server at home is running linux mint. I think that the linux mint gui is easy to use, there's no major issues. It just works. I think if I had to switch to another distro I would go to arch. But mint is perfectly fine!
Your experience is 1:1 of mine every time I’ve tried to daily Linux in the last 4 years. I love the performance and workflow it offers (GNOME in particular) but I only use my laptop for Video/Photo editing and playing BeamNG, GTA IV and a few others. All which lack native support unless played through WINE/Proton. Not to mention you lose most mod support for those games when played that way. So I’d dual-boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, PopOS, etc. and use it to do web browsing then when I needed to do actual work I’d just go back to Windows. I want to love it but it just isn’t there yet, and may never be. BTW, love your channel, found you through your 5D vids and have watched all your others since! They’re perfect dinner-table movies.
Thank you! And yeah, I have a feeling a lot of people feel similarly. Unless you have a need for both Linux and windows, dual booting just ends up being a bit of a pain and I always end up sticking with windows at the end of the day.
I feel like the only way to daily drive like me, is to find native alternatives to software you use (Krita, Kdenlive, Gimp and such.) If you can't, or they don't fullfil all your needs, go with Windows and maybe revisit Linux in the future as the progress has been very fast. The community can lack perspective because I think for them PCs and software are a hobby, but for many users like us PCs are a means to an end.
@@PKM1010 totally, if you don't like the alternatives leave. Adobe and MS Office is never coming to linux. Even if they tried the linux community would eat them alive and remove them from repositories. Maybe ubuntu would have them. What's worse than paid closed source? Subscription-based closed source requiring internet access to validate. No thank you! Never ever will I accept that.
Since I've tried Pop OS Linux 20.04 I never return to windows as my main daily driver. Video editing, photo editing, scripts, lesson plan, presentation, online teaching, on-site teaching and so on. no problem. But I still keep windows in multiple mode alongside with Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Elementary, Linux Lite, Big Linux and Manjaro for my testing and examples. Try to see details on my channel all content made in Linux.
I believe the general consensus regarding dual booting Linux and Windows, is DONT do it, unless you have 2 seperate hdd/ssd's to install them seperatley on to, as Windows update invariably tends to destroy the grub bootloader. rendering your Linux installation inaccessible - and even if you fix it, unless you disable Windows update......in time, it will just do it again.
I love Linux don't get me wrong it's amazing, what the fan base doesn't get is that it's still not as easy to use as windows, I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but not everyone is willing to deal with the quirks of daily driving Linux plus the confusion of just choosing a distro which is incredible for us nerds you have a lot of choices for distro hopping but for someone trying to settle down in an OS it's not the best
It takes a special kind of....uhm to think Linux is harder than Windows. As an expert with 42 years experience, you are the first person saying that. One's never too old.....
Installation is easy you just have to take safe mode off in bios. Pop is plug and play you just have to do update and upgrade in command line. I have it on a notepad document. copy and paste into terminal. Min dose not need any coddling at all.
I used mint for a while; if it weren't got Windows Game DVR's "record what happened" feature I'd probably still use it as my main OS, if not pop OS. Most of my early content was edited on a laptop running Linux mint Overall, the reason you would use it is because you don't want to use windows or mac os. If you use software specific to those platforms, it's not really a good idea to switch over. Like you said with your Adobe programs; you can find an alternative to work but most people they'd rather have what they know and like. As for gaming with Steam there is proton to get compatibility with windows games, though not all work equally. BTW great quality for the video; surprised you only have 6.55k subs (at the time of me typing this at least).
Yeah, I think trying Linux just to try it without too much reason means any shortcomings will push people away. Having a specific reason really makes you want to stick with it more. I appreciate it!! Hopefully I can get to 10k soon would basically be a dream come true haha
I have two Synology NAS'es and I have no problem connecting to it using SMB of NFS using Linux. Just have to enable certain settings. Once I'm done with all the settings on the server side, I connected to my network shares by editing the fstab file on the root/etc/ folder then mount it manually using the terminal to see if it works. It can be a hit or miss and may require further tinkering and researching but it shouldn't be too hard to do. For my set up, all my network shares automatically mounts when I log-in on my Linux machine. For browser, if Chrome is giving you issues, try Brave or Vilvaldi. They are both Chrome-based browsers. Personally, I use LibreWolf and Firefox. I was a Windows power user too before I switched to Linux. What made it easier for me to switch is I just didn't jump in. I did some research and looked for alternatives for the apps I often use in Windows. I was actually surprised that Linux has some better apps than what I used to use in Windows.. and all of it for free. After that, I tried a bunch of distros. I tried Mint, PopOS, Manjaro, Fedora, Debian, Garuda, Ubuntu, etc. After trying a bunch, I knew I had to go with the KDE desktop environment since it's the closest to Windows. I went with Manjaro and it was good for a while until I broke something. Now I'm on MX Linux (KDE) and luvin' it so far.
HI, long time Linux/Lenovo user here (started with Unix back in the late 80s and switched to Linux, almost always on a Lenovo laptop, around 1999/2000 and used it as my main driver until 2019, when I retired and decided to do video as a hobby ... turns out almost all cameras and video equipment have native apps that only run on Windows or Mac ... so not wanting to jump through unreliable hoops I decided I might as well go with Windows. The mouse and touchpad issue (lagging and unresponsive) you are having is in my experience a common issue with Lenovo, which is why I long ago stopped using the touchpad unless necessary and use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse instead. Personally, I wish the video/photo apps I run worked as well (or were supported as well, Davinci Resolve is my main NLM, and while it runs on Linux, it's not supported near as well there as it is on WIndows & Mac) on Linux, I;d switch back in a second since for the most part Linux is far better and generally far more performant than bloated Windows (I can't tell you how many times a day Windows, on my i7 16 core, 32GB memory, dual 1TB NVMe drives, comes to a crawl running a few tabs on my browser (Chrome, Firefox or Edge, doesn't matter.) Windows sucks, but hardware and software developers continue to write code for it so I guess that's how the world works and I'll have to live with it until I decide my hobby will consist of 'only things that run on Linux'!!
Interesting, I had no idea Resolve was supported at all on Linux. Windows is for sure bloated, and it gets worse by the year. I regularly hit 16gb+ ram used on windows, but never hit over 10gb on Pop OS doing all the same things (like hoarding tons of tabs between both Firefox and chrome) Video/photo is my favorite hobby though, and now makes me money through TH-cam, so $150 for more ram and a bigger SSD is a price I'm wiling to pay.
@@aChairLeg yeah, me too, but I really wish developers and hardware manufacturers would start to make the sensible choice and start making Linux the priority platform. I have a second laptop, an old it with 8Gb men and no GPU that I run a server version of Linux (ie. no desktop manager, or command line) that I use to run as a storage server and Nextcloud to automatically backup all my phone media for my phone and my wife's phone, and a few other services like that for schedules, time management, web services, etc... it never hits more than 5 or 10% cpu at the busiest of times, it is up 100% of the time, draws next to no power (close the lid, screen off) makes no noise as the fan is never needed ... under Windows it would run constantly at 40 or 50% doing nothing but running Windows.
You can also give Shotcut a try. It's pretty basic, but definitely usable and easier to install and get started with than Resolve. Resolve is definitely more a pro tool, but can be tricky to run on Debian-based systems at times (like Ubuntu and PopOS).
There's no 16 core i7. Also, the coming to a crawl running a few tabs... I've never had that. And I have a 6yo laptop with i7 6700HQ with 4 cores. And I have A LOT of tabs. In FFX, Chrome and Opera (don't use Opera, I'm too lazy to switch, it's an outdated browser nowadays). But from what I know from a friend, there's a very good chance that it's windows update that suddently makes your computer slow to a crawl. I got win 10 pro key for about $10 5 years ago, the best $10 paid. After quite some hassle to properly permantly disable automatic windows updates (which you need the Pro version for), Windows behaved exactly as I wanted. In 6 years I had 4 blue screens of death. I had 100 day uptime, though nowadays I try to limit that to a month, so to keep it fairly up to date. In general I think I restarted it about 100 times in these 6 years. And yeah, it's the same Windows it came with the laptop in 2016. I've never reinstalled it, only upgraded it to Pro at one point. I hate Microsoft, but properly configured Win 10 (can't speak for Win 11, I don't know how it is, and I don't want to know) is rock solid. Provided you also don't have sketchy/faulty hardware or drivers (which is not Windows' or Microsoft's fault)
@@aChairLeg Not only is Resolve supported on Linux, but its rendering performance is considerably higher than on Windows, just like in other professional programs like Blender, Nuke, Maya, C4D, Houdini, etc. Actually, Resolve was originally a Linux only program, it became cross platform later. The supposed limitations are only on the free version of Resolve, where the Linux version lacks a few codecs for licensing issues. The studio version is equivalent to Mac and Windows and certainly worth the price, especially if you consider that professionals get the studio license included with the Blackmagic hardware they buy.
I love linux way over windows and MacOS. The only problem, is a big problem... Adobe, Office, and Engineering/scientific software doesn't work on linux. And Videogames run overall slower or you still don't have all the game library on linux.
If your browser is freezing randomly is because something controls your CPU's performance scale. I had this issue. I installed Corectrl( it is like msi afterburner but for linux but can control the CPU as well) and set the CPU's performance scaling to "Do not control". Also I would turn off mitigations, it helps with the performance and I would definitely try Proton GE for gaming. I am a Linux newbie as well, I only use it for 3 months now but so far the only big issue I had is that when installing windows 10 it deleted my grub so I had to wipe my whole system ssd. And last thing, I have tried Gnome and KDE, but KDE is so much better. Better and more various options, more responsive and looks more like Windows.
You might want to use Cinnamon (as featured on Mint) as a desktop; I find it an easy transition from Windows, and a bit more comfortable than KDE. It's kind of boring, which is a good thing, for me.
When you use Windows, you use it so that you can use your favorite 3rd party applications. When you use Linux, you have to see Linux as the hobby itself. Being productive with it is just a bonus.
Haha I have too many hobbies as it stands. Even with how much better linux is now, it still took a decent chunk of my schedule just to get it all setup and get used to it.
I have to disagree. I use Linux for 3 years now and I'm way more productive with it. For me it would be the other way around now because I'm not familiar with the workflow. I think the biggest problem for most people is that their workflow evolves around some applications which only work on Linux. You would have to switch to other programs and this would take some time getting used to. It's like reorganizing your house. First you don't know where stuff is but in the end it might be better and you wonder why you kept the old way so long.
I completely disagree aswell, I find I'm much more productive with linux as it can be molded to fit to my workflow rather than with windows having to change my preferred workflow to fit in microsofts confined way to do tasks. Along with the ability to make scripts to automate different parts of my workflow and binding any assortment of keybindings to do said process or rearrange my workspace without taking my hands away from my keyboard. It can fit any workflow or even enhance it.
Great video! You gave it a fair shot and I'm happy to see the experience was positive overall. Totally understandable that you switch back to Windows if your workflow depends from Adobe. Maybe keep playing with Linux in a VW and one day you can switch!
You don't need to wipe you flashdrive btw, to use it as an installer for a different distro. You just install ventoy on it and use as many . iso files as you want. It'll just offer you a choice which installer to launch when you boot with it.
That's awesome! I wish I knew that sooner, I have a 256 gb SSD that's been sitting since I can't figure out how to load it with all the operating systems I use all at once.
@@aChairLeg all the operating systems you use? Ventoy can launch .iso files only. So that instead of formating flashdrive for each installer you format it with Ventoy and you can store all installers at once + other files you want.
for me, the best is having both. My gaming pc is windows. My work laptop in linux mint. I like having the separation, it helps me focus on work because there's less distractions, and then when I game I feel like I can really relax because I'm not in my work environment.
Thank you! I'm actually really bad at factorio haha. Every couple of months I'll startup a new world and struggle to get past trains, but I have a hell of a time until then!
It's funny that Linux Mint just works on the first install yet Pop OS is still preferred even if there was so many problems encountered with it. Mint is always cited as beginner's distro yet it's robust & stable to be a daily driver even for staunch linux users. ;-)
Mint is the Landcruiser of Operating Systems indeed. It just shows up, it just works, it's not going to blow you over with its looks, but you're going to get your job done, without hassles. I just again downloaded LMDE6. That's the Debian edition.
Linux rewards power-users. Linux command line is definately not overrated. That's the biggest reason to use it. Also it is way more efficient with your resources. But that's about it. IMO Linux GUI doesn't look very good and for normal users and gamers, windows is just better. Only use Linux if you value open-source, or you have old pc, or you're a nerd :D
Once you spend the time to make Linux your own, it can for sure make you hyper-efficient. I don't think I'm at the point where I want to dedicate my time to it yet. I can appreciate how much faster just using the terminal to get all my programs on Ubuntu was once I memorized them all though
8:54 This sounds like it might be trying to access an audio device that isn't connected, which is a problem I also have sometimes. Next time it happens maybe try installing pulseaudio volume control (that's "sudo apt install pavucontrol") and checking the output devices tab. Click the checkmark on whatever audio device you want to use so that the box around it is dark. That will make it the default output device and should fix the problem if I've guessed it right.
My first experience with linux was like you, ubuntu around 2014 where my mate had it. I hated trying to play games with him so much I gave him a windows key and vowed never to touch linux again. I have since used Linux because that's what the steam deck is running and quite frankly I could not deal with that as my main operating system and it still has many of the same issues. Simply playing games on my steam library isn't perfect and requires a fair bit of effort to get things done for alot of games. Even if things did work perfectly for gaming, the second I wanted to do literally anything that wasn't playing a game (heck even simply modding a game) it became a monumental headache. My worst experience was getting a program working that let me use steams play together on any game. It took me all of 30 seconds to get it working on windows, it took me over 24 hours and scouring forums and downloading multiple different apt and asking multiple Linux users on reddit just to find out I couldn't do it yet on Linux (this program literally had a linux version too but was for fedora which uses a different family to steam OS which I didn't even know there were different base OS's, another reason for incredible incompatability). Anyone saying Linux is good for daily driving is simply lying to themselves for most people. So many OS's and distro's lead to insane amounts of incompatibilities and most people don't want to waste hours of their lives doing something they could do on MAC or Windows in a minute or so. This isn't even mentioning how there are large portions of the Linux community who will belittle and act elitist on forums when you ask for help. Then they wonder why noone wants to get into Linux. Not everyone is obnoxiously horrific, but those who are actively hurt trying to find those who are helpful like downvoting posts on reddits designed specifically for help with Linux.
I am software developer, Linux is 1000 better than Windows for what I do. With your attitude downvotes are expected. Distributions are actually very similar - mostly same software with different defaults. Bazar model allows communities to experiment. By comparison Windows and Mac define experience - people like me become outcasts.
Personally, I have been on / off on Linux for a long time before I permanently switched. I always used it on laptops since about 2009, but my desktop remained mostly windows until a few years ago. The most important takeaway from my experience is that Linux is not Windows. As you start out, your workflow will be a lot closer to that of Windows. But as time moves forward, you will discover things that simply are not possible on Windows. You personalize things more and more and drift further away from what can be done in windows. The terminal which at first seems scary / inconvenient starts to become a great asset you willingly start using more and more. At least that is how it went for me. Right now, if I use windows for a bit, I instinctively press ctrl+alt+esc to kill things I want to close. And to finish off with a meme, I use Arch btw (with KDE Plasma as my desktop).
It's possible to run Windows in a VM and pass the GPU to the VM which makes Windows run at near native speed and without dual booting. It's quite complex to setup, but once you do, it's amazing. With only one GPU you need to unload the kernel video drivers so the VM GPU passthrough works then reload the drivers when you quit the VM. There are several guides on TH-cam. But it is highly technical. Recommend you get SSH and RDP working to the Linux and Windows so if you mess up the kernel module load / unloading scripts you can at least access the system instead of being stuck with no video.
I've been dipping in and out of Linux for the last few years. Between Mint & Zorin OS. Also gave Elementary a whirl. Tried Manjaro but didn't take to it, felt it was too bloated. I dumped Windows 11 last week and I have been running KDE Neon since. Been loving it so far and had no real issues :D
Don't forget that when you install steam on Linux you have to go to "Settings" then "Compatibility" then turn "Enable Steam Play for all other titles" on to make the games that don't say they are Linux compatible automatically run on proton. I have no clue why it isn't turned on by default but it is what it is.
The command line is your friend. When I was a kid, DOS used to intimidate me and I realized that with my parents income and hand me downs. DOS and command line would be facts of life until at least college which is what happened. My 10 year old self and DOS for Dummies had a good time. Learn it now and use it for a lifetime, teach it to your kids. It is just like riding a bike.
Pretty honest video with fair problems, I think being stuck on Windows because of Adobe/Office is one of the most common reasons not to switch. I feel like the issues on Linux are constantly improving and maybe more companies will decide to support it in the future.
For anyone watching, if you want to try Linux seriously you need to make sure you will be fine with the different software supported on Linux. There is no Microsoft Office for example, you will have to use a (usually free) alternative like Libre Office. If youre a programmer / developer this isnt really a problem, so you only really have the benefits of Linux without missing out on too much. I would recommend Linux Mint over all other distros for a beginner. Its difficult to break something, and in Linux Mint you will be using the terminal less than you did even in Windows. A lot of people decide to stick to Linux Mint, just because its a really well made distro with a solid desktop environment.
When comfortable with Linux, you might consider switching to a Plasma Desktop, which is way more configurable for way more work! I have a tiling script, plus the Windows Power Toys-esque Drag and Drop Tiling thats standard in Plasma, more Shortcuts than i can remember to resize and move windows (including between screens), Windows-like Multi Desktops, Mac-like Multi Desktops (Windows: Same Desktop but different Windows "Virtual Desktops", Mac: Different Layout, Background, etc (Activities)) and much more
@@aChairLeg I switched to Linux 1 year ago and after a bunch of distrohopping, i ended up with Fedora with cinnamon desktop and stick with it, it was worth it for me.
For dualbooting I use self-made shortcut. It kinda hard to explain for new user, but you can found "howto" in google I think. Basically, that shortcut changing "next boot only" option to what you need (if by default that linux, you can change it to windows). Command for that looks like that: sudo efibootmgr -n 0002 && sudo systemctl reboot -n means "next boot", number means number of option you want boot. What number in your situations can be seen by just simply typing "efibootmgr" in terminal. Or you probably can use same fancy gui app nowdays. Or even find why bootloader not seen your windows install. That just not "a linux way" for me.
I've hopped around for years, even using Ubuntu for a year a few years back, but I never really settled and kept coming back to windows 7. Then I got a steam deck and ended up using it more often than my main pc. Because the deck had Arch I quickly got comfortable with it and I soon realized I may have found my favorite OS. Now my main pc also has Arch installed and I've not even considered going back. Now if only I could have it on my work's development laptop I'd be happy. Unfortunately that has windows 10 and Its a daily headache.
I also have the issue with earbuds, I did on Ubuntu and I still do on blendOS (Arch). I've stopped putting my earbuds in the case when I walk away from the desk, so they only have to disconnect/reconnect a few times throughout the day. The TH-cam issue seems to be a result of the browser trying to initialize audio, while the earbuds are seemingly in a semi-connected state(?) It's all strange, but it seems to happen more often with more disconnects/reconnects, so reducing the number of times you do that should help.
There are commercial software vendors for Linux with custom software that far exceeds anything available on Microsoft, from graphics and modeling programs, software development, audio/video production, engineering and design, to e-commerce and corporate, data backup, systems design, and commercial device drivers. You don't have to only use free software on Linux.
I love a keyboard centric workflow, with common tasks assigned to short sequences of key combos. So win+t gets me a terminal, win+w gets me a browser, win+1 gets me writer, win+2 gets me calc. Then within the terminal they way you can write scripts means that e.g. my mpd-based media player is controlled by a script called mp (which wraps mpc), and likewise many tasks are accomplished with ease. (Thus is with Kubuntu). Windows is klunky by comparison, takes many times longer to set up, eats battery like crazy; and macos is like trying to type wearing rubber gloves. I want my machine to do what it's told, and little else, and to have the facility to easily tell my machine what I want with a minimum of effort. Linux wins big in this regard. Mind you, I'm comfortable with Windows, Linux and Macos, and important things I can do on any of them. Windows is primarily there for music and a bit of video editing. My mac mini is just a media player for my TV.
About not piping into the terminal.... I literally have terminal in my startup config on windows... On Linux I always use the terminal for package managing since if you know the base commands of your distro... It's way faster. The 3 distro's you mentioned all use apt as base package managment system. The command to update the repositories and upgrade the installed packages to the new version is: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade Command explanation: Sudo = run as superuser (admin) Apt = package manager Update = syncing/updating repositories Upgrade = upgrading installed packages Besides apt on popOS there is flatpak a different way of package packaging (multi distro compatibility bla bla bla) Update from terminal is literally just "flatpak update" as command...... A challenge for you would be installing arch with the old way of installing arch (you need to manually do things like disk partitioning (not guided partitioning, which is way better) and such...
@@646464mario same here, something that I think most of them have in common..... They run windows or macOS... Linux becomes easier instead of more confusing for most people... Since most desktop environments have confusing settings layouts (KDE), sub par stores (old gnome, old KDE, LXQT and many more) or other things that will be faster or easier to do in the terminal... Knowing what you exactly want to do and you don't know where it is that is way faster in the terminal.
@@imtiredtoday Here is my opinion: Don't be a SysAdmin setting up and configuring servers if you are afraid of CLI. You can disagree, but thinking that way only hinders your ability to do things. Even when I use macOS, I always have a terminal window on my side ready for when I need it. Yes, the GUI these days allows for a lot of stuff but not all of it. CLI is faster, lighter and allows for finer-tuning and in my opinion, a more intimate understanding of the OS you are working with.
@@646464mario totally agree. And honestly I cringe if I see someone looking up their IP address within a gui... Well yes you will do that in 2 cases regularly: 1 DHCP reservation 2 troubleshooting. But still even though I know where to find it in windows settings it still is really annoying compared to alt+space typing term enter and ipconfig Or on Linux Ctrl + Alt+t in general and ip a or ifconfig (they do mostly the same but look different) Or if you're settling up a server... A GUI could be a nightmare... (Except for AD and an RDS environment)... But Powershell commands are just weird like Invoke-WebRequest instead of wget... And it's insistence on arguments instead of sane defaults (the true Powershell equivalent to ipconfig is a true nightmare, and impossible to find since everyone just juces the cmdlet ipconfig.exe anyway) Sorry for my rant but this topic just is inviting to rant like comments... And I'm not good at short explanations...
As a long time Linux user - who almost *never* uses the command line, I like to say, "I can fix all your Windows problems with this Linux install... then you'll have Linux problems." LOL. Honestly, Linux has gotten better and better while Windows has remained... well, Windows. If you don't use fussy third party apps, have older hardware and are only interesting in email, web surfing and light gaming, Linux is a good choice. Having choices is good.
Haha I was actually thinking that when I was using it. Linux has made wild progress in the past 8 years, windows feels even more bloated...
Honestly Windows is getting worse and worse. With my Dlink wifi adapter, Windows has pushed this bullshit ass update that fucks around with it big time, a lot of the times when I download files, particularly large files it would timeout and have weird issues downloading a file after one of its feature updates. I had to install Windows using couple of years old ISO and if works but after some feature updates come through, then it again screwed up so I have to revert back to the previous build. The issue is is that the previous build is no longer getting security updates.
On Debian and Arch based distros I don't get any wifi adapter related issues. It just works!
Also Windows seems to be getting more and more bloated with more spyware, now with Windows 11 you are even forced to create a Microsoft account before you can login. Like why the fuck should I need to do that? Why can't I just create a local account?
@@johnnyblack4261 i cant even get wifi running on linux how did you do it
@@fuckyoutube75889 What distro are you running and what is your wifi adapter name and possibly model number?
@@johnnyblack4261 Tried zorin os and mint, have a Realtek with rtl8812bu chipset and nothing has ever worked, I've tried every driver there is and still no luck. It works perfectly on Windows though and that pisses me off
By the way, to solve the issue at 6:30 (can only play Linux games on Steam) you can...
1. Open Steam
2. In the top right of the Steam window, click "Steam." It should have the Steam logo next to the text.
3. In the drop down window from said button, press "Settings."
4. Find "Compatibility" on the side bar of the window that just opened. It has the Steam logo next to it.
5. Enable the toggle on "Enable Steam Play for all other titles."
6. Press "Restart Steam."
Then you can play all your Windows only games on steam!
As another linux user, your mileage may vary with the steam compatibility tool. Some games work great. Others are essentially unplayable. If gaming is a big deal, either be ready to be doing a lot of configuration and setting up vms or just dual-boot windows.
@@mothcatcher893as a linux user, most of the games run better than Windows, like genshin impact, elden ring, VR chat, and much others, in The protonDB you can check how to run some games, and its easy to fix, and exist The proton GE which is modified to run most of the games without ajust it... there is only 43 games borked, and one of them is destiny 2, because bungie doesnt like linux, they call "insecure" and have banned some linux users
why is ur pfp the mebank logo
@@henrysthings I’m American so I had no idea what me bank was before I reversed image searched my pfp
@@mothcatcher893 Idk if you've tried the newer proton versions, but nowadays almost everything works out of the box on steam (Except for MP games with Anti-Cheat)
Best way to switch to linux is first using libre programs on Windows and seeing if you can do without adobe until Adobe and stuff decide Linux market share worthy enough. I personally learned all of my hobbies with foss programs to start with even before knowing about Linux, so it was awesome to switch!
@Bobby T also agree. When I started out with Ubuntu in middle/high school the only 2 pieces of software I was mainly looking to use were Chrome and Steam and they both had Linux versions.
Meant instead of my initial experience being one of looking for replacements for all sorts of things I use daily, it was one of exploring this crazy new thing that I didn't even know was possible. Unity felt so modern at the time that I was blown away that hardly anybody knew about it or used it. Exciting feeling when things "just work"!
That's right, small incremental changes aka phased and parallel conversion rather than doing a direct conversion.
Underrated advice
Persistent live USB installs are a much better method for those who want to experience Linux. It's not expensive or tasking on system resources. A 64gb USB flashed with Ubuntu (or whatever supports persistent USB) will work just fine (although I HIGHLY recommend you use a 3.0 drive in a 3.0 port). Plus live USB's can be used on any system you can access the BIOS on. Meaning that at the minimum, it's a good tool if your Windows system fails in order to recover files, and access the internet.
@@breakfast7595 unless you have nvidia or you need any specific kernel version
The end of the video is just so relatable... I've been using Linux at work for years but I always used (mainly) Windows at home for gaming and office stuff. Recently, Windows has started acting more and more strange with my TV connected to the PC (resolution issues, wrong app scaling, taskbar resizing, tray icons being the wrong size...). I didn't have any plans to switch my home PC to Linux but when Windows started freezing on Win+Arrow moving windows from/to TV and wouldn't stop pestering me to upgrade to windows 11 with TikTok preinstalled, I just had enough.
I'm actually surprised that setting everything up was relatively easy and I've had way less issues than I thought I would. I'm not really a good comparison for "out of the box" experience as I insisted on using Arch just like I do at work but I think I can weigh in and say I am surprised that everything *is there* and in good enough shape.
Drivers for my graphics card? No problem. Drivers for my HP printer? Surprisingly no big problem. Gaming? Works really well thanks to Steam+Proton.
There are still some things I miss but Linux has come a long way as a Desktop platform.
If you're advanced that's not the case at all. Why would I wanna go back to Windows when I can do so much more with Linux? I can create my own custom stuff, edit whatever I want, add whatever functionalities I want. I've written scripts that automate so many things. In fact, doing some of those tings manually would be extremely time-consuming and exhausting. And that's all built within programs, UI, custom shortcuts, custom apps, you name it. Using windows is an absolute downgrade for me. And even if I wasn't advanced just for the UI alone I'd stick with it (that's what i actually drew me at first before I knew about all the possibilities).
You can get libreoffice to be mostly compatible with the latest ms office and video editors like kdenlive, shotcut to replace whatever adobe products there are on windows. Not to mention I don't like adobe at all. Couldn't stand it the moment I layed eyes on photoshop. I dont like photoshop, premiere, ms office at their very cores. Doesn't even have to do with them being paid and closed source. They're all confusing, inefficient and lame. When I was on Windows I used other, much simpler video editors (where things are automated - ex - auto trim space on delete). Unless you're a professional you can easily live without MS and Adobe products. And even if you are (though it depends), you might still be able to get away with it
@@ent2220 true
I've got several shellscripts and python scripts on my custom path directory that does so much of the stuff I want to automate
Defiantly not switching to Windows.
I do have a couple things I miss tho (namely ms paint, ms PowerPoint and rainmeter) other than that, Linux works incredibly
You're Chad enough to have set up Arch but still used Windows at home? I'm confused but impressed lol.
i am using Zorin OS in my ;ab and tbh the experience is pretty resistanceless. Maybe its because i was using it in win 7 mod.
@@matthewrease2376 Never underestimate people's laziness :D (And how shitty anti cheat software for multiplayer is on Linux :/)
For me using Linux is almost like a hobby. I find it makes using a computer so much more fun. Whereas most Windows machines are nearly identical, no two Linux [desktop] installs are quite the same especially after you've been using it for a bit. You slowly tweak and adjust and add extensions and things until you've crafted an experience that's exactly how YOU want it. That takes time and effort and a real interest so it's understandable why most people who aren't interested in that type of thing don't tolerate weird bugs and compatibility issues as some sort of challenge but instead see them as roadblocks.
Precisely! I love fixing Linux, because it helps me understand the OS in a deeper way. I do certainly understand why people would get frustrated with it, you need a certain mentality for it.
@@gary4689For me exactly that experience made me love linux, when I started with Ubuntu back in 2014. Before I was totally helpless, whenever a problem occured with windows. I was mostly told to either simply buy a newer pc (which I couldn't afford), or to just reinstall windows, when an update broke something.
Now on Linux I could research a problem, find a detailed description, repair it myself and learn something about the system as well. And since I used to own only old hardware, Linux Distros were the first OSs that ran stable and effortlessly on it. Before I had anxiety attacks whenever opening a new program or window on Windows.
Some people buy a car and never modify it. Some like to tune and mod.
Exactly
Yes! Exactly!
Used Windows for the longest time. Tried Linux a couple times (Ubuntu, Arch), but didn't have the patience to figure it out. Finally decided to put Debian on an old ThinkPad I had last year, and actually put the time into learning how to use and customize it. It's way faster using the terminal for a lot of tasks if you know what you're doing since you just have to type a bit of text instead of clicking through a bunch of menus and dragging stuff around. I rarely even use the mouse anymore, since I've got dwm set up to automatically snap+resize windows, and move them between work spaces with shortcuts. Also, having a central repo for all your applications is great- it's real easy to update everything at once. Don't think I use Windows for anything other than gaming, which is slow on my T530 anyway.
this. One of the most annoying things to ever exist on Windows is searching for and installing programs/apps. Having the Terminal, I set up my Linux laptop so fast that I thought I had missed something. But nope, it was ready to go in like 15-20 minutes instead of the 2+ hours of searching for, downloading and manually installing everything. It's one of the main reasons why I run Linux as my main OS to this day.
@@PvtAnonymous its funny that macOS and linux both have good installation systems with dmgs and package managers, but windows is still stuck in the 90s with .exe and zip files lol.
@@happygofishing you forgot the Microsoft Store lel
@@PvtAnonymous the ms store is broken af
@@happygofishing nah it's not broken, it's just a joke. Or just garbage software, like 95% of anything that comes from Microsoft.
the first try with pop os, the errors may have been due to the iso getting corrupted somehow during download, thus why redownloading it completely made the errors disappear
While that would be an explanation, I don't think I've ever seen a file corruption caused by occurred during the download itself. The protocol usually handles that and requests corrupted parts again. But never say never I guess.
@@Gramini it does happen, it's why they provide SH256 sums for the isos
@@DouglasWalrath The checksums are (also) meant to validate the integrity when using a mirror, to detect if one has tempered with it. Just as an addition.
@@Gramini i don't think pop os has any mirrors, the download is just a single download link per iso
Could also be that there was some UEFI setting that the Mint installer changed. After all, the unspoken reason for Secure Boot is to make it more difficult to use alternative OSes. That's why it took mass outcry to get Microsoft to promise that only the ARM devices would be tivolized, while the x86 devices were required to limit their rejection of Linux booting to incompetence (hello, HP) rather than malice.
Great to hear someone trying Linux and admitting that their issues are likely due to lack of knowledge/experience and not that “Linux is terrible”.
I spent years swapping between Windows and Linux and then swapping back to Windows to play certain games etc, I now dual boot my gaming pc to play games with AntiCheat on windows.
But once you really become familiar with Linux, the CLI becomes a helpful tool - not a hindrance, and you will find yourself preferring Linux over windows.
My advice is try it again in another 6 months, you might like it better then
Yeah, for power users I honestly find linux significantly better other than the lack of certain software.
Not only the command line, but also window managers with automatic tiling are GODLY. the main issue with them is it takes time to set them up to your liking and some software doesn't work as well if it's not a single window thing.
I'm personally really excited for the soon coming cosmic which combines tiling and floating and removes the hassle of setting up the tiling window manager.
I will say for me as a formerly massive grotesque Distro Hopper, EndeavourOS was the one that had me to stop doing it.
Whilst it's a lot more "terminal-centric" just being able to search using paru for the program you want is amazing.
Can't go back to Ubuntu PPAs and etc.
Yep, ppas are an ass to manage
I love a visual package manager so Arch based distros always pushed me away but after testing endeavour os & using pacseek to install packages I could totally see myself using it daily if I didn't adore Linux mint so much. I do have endeavour os with cinnamon on my laptop tho.
@@Skibbehifyyeah pacseek is very useful for finding certain drivers that I have issues finding any other time
the thing about the terminal is that once you get used to it it makes everything quicker and easier, because it's JUST SO POWERFUL
“It installed and worked perfectly first time, but I refused to use it because it wasn’t my first choice”
I get the impression that this attitude will set the tone for your experience.
Not getting your point to be honest.
@@joelfalco8735 He means the uploader will stick to what he wanted in the first place, regardless of the outcome. And he kinda did... Annoyances exist on Windows, too.
that he wants his computer to do what he wants it to? sounds pretty reasonable to me.
@@kintustis yep - its all about preferences , idk why other linux users force others to use their stuffs when they don't really want to.
@@kintustis Exactly! I don't get why people shame others for using an OS that does what they need it to.
I use Linux, because Linux works better for things that I need it for. Other people will use Windows and that's fine too.
As a Linux fan-boy I hope everyone tries LInux at some point, but if it's just not for you then there's nothing wrong with that.
The original commenter just sounds like "he didn't like what I like so he's wrong" which is just childish lmao
As a long term darktable user and artix linux user, i think that lightroom is limited,darktable is better because it's customizable and packs a lot of modules and settings that can speed up your raw editing.
You can apply different masks for almost all darktable's modules,in my opinion color tuning is really fantastic,better than C1 and lightroom,only silkypix can offer something similar,it lacks lightroom's image blend capabilities.
I just bought a cheap used Fujitsu 2 in 1 laptop for drawing on the go. It came with an emr pen. I hopped around so many distros just to taste how it works. I finally got back to with Linux Mint Mate. No error. The printers I have work well. I have samba share folders on my Linux Mint htpc, also works flawlessly. Krita works really well despite the 4gb ram. Only Google Drive that took a little bit of time to set up because I prefer using Rclone.
The things that surprised me so much are the touch sensor of the touchscreen and pen. Even the pen pressure sensitivity, they work right out of the box on every distro I tried. Both live session and fully installed. On Windows, I need to download tons of drivers just to make the touchscreen and pen work, which is more painful to set up.
Just a recommendation: If you are going to be dual-booting or even triple-booting your computer, reFind is a great program for having a single BIOS / UEFI entry and managing your boot selection.
Or just use GRUB (I know that it's ancient, but I still use it on my laptop and desktop to manually select from which partition I boot)
He needed command line for an emulator set up and you want him to install refind lmao
@@somacruz8272 I know, but realize that I installed arch with grub as bootloader...
And yes I used the "archinstall" script...
He really shouldn't manually install arch on his system (I mean oldschool install without script)
@@imtiredtoday You shouldn't be telling anyone to use anything linux related if you're relying entirely off of install scripts to have a working kernel and bootloader. Arch users are a plague to linux development.
@@somacruz8272 "You shouldn't be telling anyone to use anything linux related if you're relying entirely off of install scripts to have a working kernel and bootloader." Isn't that what Linux development has been working toward for like the last 10-15 years??? An OTB experience where shit just does what it needs to and works? You must be a Gentoo/LFS nerd or sum.
That is great you tried Linux! I'm also glad you chose a distribution and stick with it too, 'cause many of the community will give you hate for choosing the "wrong" distribution.
I played around with Raspberry Pi OS (a Debian distro) for a few years simply for the challenge of learning a new operating system. I enjoyed learning the different commands for installing certain apps (although many were already included in the app library, like LibreOffice), and my goal was to try to make the Raspberry Pi a Windows desktop replacement.
The raspberry pi uses an arm processor. Because of that, almost non close-source apps works, making it unusable for more than simple day to day task's. While you can technically run those applications you would have to use an "emulator" (such as box86/64 or fex), because at the end of the day the pi is only an glorified phone.
@@hat8694 As someone who dislike smartphones, the Raspberry Pi is definitely NOT a glorified phone LOL. It is true that the Pi is insufficient for playing the latest games, but it is pretty good for retrogaming. RetroPi, for instance, is a decent choice to play older console and PC games. Websurfing and video playback performance is not bad at all with the Puffin browser.. Plus, the Pi is useful for more than just everyday tasks. . The Kodi media player runs just fine on the Pi 4. I have another Pi 4 that serves as my personal NAS (much cheaper and compact way of having one) and yet another acts as my Kodi home media server for all our computers and smart TV. Some folks use the Pi to run their smart home (I personally use an Odroid N2+ for that - Home Assistant). The Pi is a nice choice than can replace Windows desktop (in some key ways) and then some. Try doing that on your smartphone.
By default, changing desktops is windows+ctrl then arrow keys up or down on popos. You can change it by going to keyboard shortcuts and look for "workspace"
From what I know, the dual booting issue comes from the bootloader POP!_OS comes with by default, most distros come with GRUB, which gives you a menu on startup that lets you select what OS to boot. POP!_OS on the other hand comes with systemd-boot which usually does not do this by default, it's possible with some tweaking, but most other distros just make it a bit more convenient. Either way, I wish you the best of luck on your Linux journey :)
It's because PopOS was intended to be used as the only system you use.
They're a lot into marketing, and don't want to sell their product as a second thing you use when you need.
@@talkysassis nah it isn't.
Dual booting with systemd-boot is as simple as copying the boot folder across from your windows drive to the bootloader and maybe editing a config file if you want a little time to choose between OSes on boot
@@ThePlayerOfGames oh yea, OMG, that is SOOOOOO simple, let me tell my mom that now, thanks bud.
That's not the reason why they don't do it. Dual booting with PopOS and Windows causes problems on both sides. They recommend doing a lot of things before dual booting with Windows like turning off secure boot, turning off fast startup etc because they can make hardware bug out in PopOS.
@@methamphetamememcmeth3422 Those are all things that can happen, but the one thing that will happen and is a pain in the ass to fix is constantly having to update your system time every single time you switch between operating systems.
For window snapping, if you're using Gnome, the keyboard shortcuts for window snapping are in Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Windows, listed as "View split on left" and "View split on right". By default, they're unset (unless Pop comes with a default setting for them), and you can set them to super+left and super+right if you want.
Currently, splitting into quadrants is not supported in Gnome, but may be supported with an extension or in other desktop environments.
I tried Linux on and off for 20 years, never could let go of the dual boot, Linux just seemed alien and difficult and I would invariably get stuck somewhere, the path of least resistance was to boot back into Windows. I have always had privacy concerns with Windows that get worse with every release. When MS announced end of support for windows 7 I quit Windows cold turkey. Wiped it from my home completely, being stuck with forced me to learn and each problem I solved gave me insight making the next hurtle lower and lower, now that I am through to the other side Linux is so much is better. It is a system built by users for users, you become the actual owner of your computer and it does your bidding, I wish I had went through the conversion years ago.
For networking I use NFS, a Linux native competitor to SMB. It's far more reliable, and once set up it just works.
I got my first Thinkpad (T480) a few days ago, and I was originally planning on dual booting both Windows and Pop_OS with separate SSDs since I've had bad luck dual booting with partitions. After I found out that the 2242 m.2 I got wasn't compatible, I decided to just use Pop_OS only for the laptop, and it works great for me so far. It might be because I have a more casual use case for my computers for now, but even as a Linux novice I found that Pop_OS does everything I need from Windows without the bloat.
As a fellow T480 Linux user I'd like to ask you about battery discharge behavior: Which one starts discharging first? The Internal (/sys/class/power_supply/BAT0) or the external (…/BAT1)?
@@mskiptr According to the settings, the external one is discharging first.
@@goodoldelrey Thanks. Didn't know Pop_OS has that configurable from the settings app.
I need to look up how it achieves that, since on my install it usually starts with the internal one for some reason.
Probably there's some little thing in sysfs that controls this.
@@goodoldelrey Just fyi:
I started digging a little more and it seems to be firmware-controlled:
r/thinkpad/comments/curij2/comment/exyvhaz/
As a long time linux user this was really neat to watch. As soon as you mentioned Photoshop I knew you wouldn't be sticking around and that's not just ok, but totally understandable. An OS needs to allow your workflow and your workflow is Adobe-centric. Still it was cool to see that beyond that your experience was pretty positive. Would be curious what caused your samba issue if you ever figure that out let us know!
I hate Adobe as a company, but damn is their software necessary for me haha
@@aChairLeg Maybe sticking all the Adobe stuff into a VM could be a good solution?
@@aChairLeg did you try Krita?
Photopea
@@aChairLeg Yeah, that's absolutely a reason not to use Linux--or at least, not cut yourself free from Windows. But it is driven by software, not the OS.
Linux mint being based on Ubuntu is crazy
Which is why i use the Debian based version of linux mint
Because im just cool
Actually it will more likely be the other way around: if you use Linux long enough without any major problems, when switching to Windows you might want to run away from Windows. It is exactly like that when I dual boot into the Win 11 that came with the laptop. All I need is some never-ending update to interfere or block my restart for minutes. Once you cross the tipping point it gets much better.
yeah it's just a matter of what one got used to.
I'm a huge Linux advocate. I've tried switching, but my university often requires Visual Studio, which is only on Windows(Don't come at me on that Mac port). I'm in the computing department. I know I can use a KVM(Virtual Machine), but it's sometimes just a hassle. I've given up and gone the WSL2 route(Linux Virtual Machine on Windows). While my university often uses Visual Studio, there's some classes I've taken that are very platform agnostic, such as Python, SQL, or web development stuff. For these courses, I will hop my ass over to WSL2 because I've found that platform agnostic stuff to just be better on Linux. Also, once I graduate, I'm fully switching. Love Linux.
How about dual boot
doesn't VSC run on linux? there's also VSCodium, which is based on the open-source code of VSC
@@barkhascherp7746 op meant Visual studio, which is a different application from visual studio code
@@barkhascherp7746Yeah, but he's referring to visual studio without the "code" part, the purple one
Hey, man. Just found your channel. As a long time linux user (and sysadmin/devops), I'm not gonna tell you Linux is better than Windows, or this and that... Just gonna say this. It is normal to have to deal with stuff. Belive it or not, I have your same issues the other way around. Everytime I have to do X on a windows machine, I hate it. Is not straight forward, I seems overly complicated, it's frustrating, etc. The thing is, once you get used to do things one way, doing it differently takes time to adjust. The same struggles I see currently on people trying to switch to linux, I had in the 90s too. And back then, linux was wayyyyy more rough. But once you get past that, and you understand how it works, dealing with issues, becomes the same process as dealing with issues on Windows. That being said, I also acknowledge that some might not have the right tools for their job available on linux, the same way as I don't have or are inferior on my job on Windows counterside. Regarding gaming, on my personal experience, I try to game as much as possible on Linux just to not have to switch to windows, but at the end of the day, it is not a big deal either when I do, since I am mostly going for a break and don't do much else, so I have no problem with dual booting if I want to play some game. Anyway, I'm gonna catch up with some of your other content, you just gained a subscriber. Cheers.
I've been using linux as a daily driver and my experience has been really good. This is a very good video and I hope linux keeps getting better to be suitable for your use case
a couple of years ago I switched to linux. My old 2011 macmini no longer worked and when it did, was slow as hell. I had been playing with the app Termux on my android phone and was really interested in Linux. Mint and MX linux are the best for new users. I struggled with Pop also, although Pop users swear by it. Because of my computer situation I had to use Linux. I found out that if I give linux as much effort as I gave MacOs I found the solution. Best of all they are free. And after thinking about the companies (apple and microsoft) keep bloating their software so you have to by a new computer and consquently a new OS. Planned obsolescence! No thank you. I will take some mild discomfort for saving a lot of money and sticking it to the man.
Windows compatibility has gotten a lot better on Linux. Steam doesn't enable this tool by default, but when enabled, Proton can dramatically increase the amount of games you have available to play. Definitely a far-cry from the situation a good 10 years ago, but there's still a ways to go.
re: games: steam play (proton) makes almost all "windows-only" games work pretty well on linux, you just have to enable it.
for image things, you may want to look at krita and darktable
for video editing, kdenlive is *probably* your best bet
I don't think anything can replace how premiere and after effects work for me honestly. Linked comps are a major part of my workflow
@@aChairLeg You can switch to DaVinci Resolve. It has a Linux support and
Bluetooth and Linux are like Walter white and Jesse Pinkman, yo.
I went into Linux knowing I'd have issues and have to learn new things... Everyone said use Ubuntu... After about a week I went back to Windows. After another year and reading more and seeing more reviews, I decided to try out other Distros. Manjaro KDE was great for me. I was able to do everything and so user friendly. I ran it doing everything I wanted for months without ever using command line. It helped me stick to using Linux only, and learning so much I was able to do everything I needed. I've since distro hopped constantly to so many distros and learned so much... I've been on Fedora for about 6 months now, and have no plans to go anywhere else. I find it best overall, but its not really designed for the Linux newbie unless you like to do a lot of research and even know the right questions to ask.
Try Krita! Also I'd recommend enabling Shader Pre-Caching in steam along with steam play :) Definitely provides an improvement in frame times
Darktable is 100% the Lightroom alternative to go with.
Full feature parity for my use cases.
Darktable looks impressive: but Lightroom scores on the combination of power and ease of use, and I could grow into Lightroom, but it looks like with Darktable you'd need some pretty intensive preparation before you could begin to use its power.
One day, we will have a GUI interface for almost all the important things, and then we can start taking on Windows.
Until then, learn the terminal, and embrace the keyboard.
Yep, enjoy the 1970s
Linux has matured enough in my eyes that it can be a daily driver for me, however i still have that once a week occasion of needing windows so i need to have both, taking up valuable storage space soo yea
Linux isnt for everyone, it never eill be, but i hope it will become at least as big as macos so companies will spend time making their stupid apps that i need for school to work and integrate in the kernel for whatever reason
Anyway, was glad you had an alright experience with pop
I had so many issues with PopOS on a Dell laptop. I just gave up and went back to Linux Mint. Mint is a f*cking battle tank, throw anything at it it will do the job.
Not sure how battle tanks do the f-thing, but you're right. There's Windows, and Mac. And Linux, yes. But then there's Mint.
As a lightroom alternatie, I'd recommend trying Darktable. It is a FOSS alternative that almost looks and feels the same.
It's interesting how for someone using the terminal more often is a hassle and for someone it's a boon rather than using a mouse and popping up different windows for something.
you don't need to dual boot to play beamNG you can jast use proton open steam and click on beamNG and click on beamNG settings and click on properties and click on compatibility and click on force the use of a specific steam play compatibility tool and select proton experimental and your done
and about your probleam with photoshop you can use krite it's almost the best photoshop app you can get
Hello! Do you have any suggestions as in what software can replace Lightroom on Pop? Thank you!
What about Darktable?
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@@bogdanvalentin94sorry for the late reply but if you still want a replacement you can use darktable from what I heard it is good
The terminal is very convenient. It is for aficionados. For the rest: Windows and Mac.
Former windows/current Linux admin here. Tips to make the switch
1. Linux gaming is "fine" now, but If you are a hardcore gamer and want every game to work. Stay on windows or make a gaining windows VM.
2. If you need adobe... I'm sorry Linux isn't for you. The alternatives are good if you are not a professional.
3. The terminal is your friend, and can be made way less scary with a bash alternative like fish or zsh. However, don't expect you can use Linux without it.
4. If you don't play games, hate windows but also need adobe. Get an apple.
I know most of my points are telling you not to use Linux. But honestly, Linux is amazing... And if you can live with the above minor things, Linux is the desktop for you.
VR games not working is why I left lol.
Dual booting doesn't work because of the bootloader pop os uses, there are many videos you can check that shows how to configure GRUB to make it dual boot...all the best
It does work, but less commonly known to configure things
it's very simple really. Them people will probably do it though console commands on the installed distro, but you can do it way easier and mostly though a GUI:
After install:
1. boot from install/live usb once again
2. using Gnome Disks mount the Windows EFI partition and PopOS EFI partition
3. run 'sudo nautilus' in terminal to open the file manager as sudo
4. copy the 'Microsoft' folder in the EFI folder of the Windows EFI parition to the EFI folder of the PopOS EFI parition
5. and finally in the 'loader' folder of the PopOS EFI partition, add 'timeout 10' to the 'loader.conf' file
this literally takes less than 10 seconds if you know the procedure and without having to memorize god only knows what terminal commands.
and you can actually do this directly after install install is complete, without rebooting
Popos supports dual booting out of the box. Assuming it was installed alongside windows, just hold spacebar when you boot. It will ask if you want to run Pop, Pop with the last major kernel, any other installed OS (it recognizes Windows installs), and lastly, Pop_Recovery.
I keep windows on a separate drive for just when I get the itch to chase 3dmark records.
Linux also gives you privacy and is open-source, but ye because of that it out weighs all the problems for me
PopOS is one of the only Linux distributions that does not show the boot menu by default when you install it on a PC that also has Windows on it. It's easy enough to fix by editing one line in the grub config file, but again that requires using a terminal which you seem to feel is horribly inconvenient. For what it's worth, I have also tried Linux Mint - several times in fact - and I can't bring myself to using it either.
with the smb thing, I'm guessing you are running a linux server. In that case its a permissions issue, my mate has the same problem and changed the read/write perms on the nas using chmod or something like that so other linux users can access it. this is caused by the fact that windows completely ignores linux file perms or something to effect.
indeed. sometimes windows just doesn't quite work woth the average off-the-shelf NAS when it comes to smb
It's incredible how far Linux has come since I started using it a few short years ago. Third-party support is the biggest problem. Using discord on Wayland is a nightmare.
For file sharing, I suggest using NFS. It is said to be better on both Linux and Windows than SMB.
I am also starting to try it out for my setup.
I must confess that Linux Mint has installed properly on everything from my old Lenovo T-500 to the new Ryzen build I'm using now. Grub lets me dual-boot with a de-cluttered version of MS Windows 10 that I use for games. Windows has no internet access, and when it tries to add "new features" you can imagine the growled response from me. I have tried popOS on the test system, and found it both snappy and stable, but not alluring enough to displace Mint on our daily drivers.
I'm very happy that I switched in 2017 to Linux. Have never used Windows again. Currently Kubuntu 22.10. Runs like muck of a stick. But all the programs you use I don't use and I don't game. Different users, different experiences. It's true though Linux isn't for everyone😉
I dual booted Manjaro on my desktop and I’m still using it like 3 weeks later. Gaming is a touch janky but I don’t game much anyways. It is working far better than I anticipated.
Nice video, pop os is going to pioneer their own desktop environment soon and then I might actually switch over. Glad someone's giving linux more attention. Seems that everyone thinks linux isn't new user friendly and requires the command line but it really doesn't
I've used linux on and off since the late 90s. I find it easier to dualboot so that's what I do. Sometimes I need windows, and sometimes I need linux. My file server at home is running linux mint. I think that the linux mint gui is easy to use, there's no major issues. It just works. I think if I had to switch to another distro I would go to arch. But mint is perfectly fine!
Your experience is 1:1 of mine every time I’ve tried to daily Linux in the last 4 years.
I love the performance and workflow it offers (GNOME in particular) but I only use my laptop for Video/Photo editing and playing BeamNG, GTA IV and a few others. All which lack native support unless played through WINE/Proton. Not to mention you lose most mod support for those games when played that way.
So I’d dual-boot Windows 10 with Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, PopOS, etc. and use it to do web browsing then when I needed to do actual work I’d just go back to Windows.
I want to love it but it just isn’t there yet, and may never be.
BTW, love your channel, found you through your 5D vids and have watched all your others since! They’re perfect dinner-table movies.
Thank you! And yeah, I have a feeling a lot of people feel similarly. Unless you have a need for both Linux and windows, dual booting just ends up being a bit of a pain and I always end up sticking with windows at the end of the day.
I feel like the only way to daily drive like me, is to find native alternatives to software you use (Krita, Kdenlive, Gimp and such.) If you can't, or they don't fullfil all your needs, go with Windows and maybe revisit Linux in the future as the progress has been very fast.
The community can lack perspective because I think for them PCs and software are a hobby, but for many users like us PCs are a means to an end.
Why would you lose mod support?
The only problem BeamNG has with Linux is when you load the AI cars it hammers the performance, not sure why.
@@PKM1010 totally, if you don't like the alternatives leave. Adobe and MS Office is never coming to linux. Even if they tried the linux community would eat them alive and remove them from repositories. Maybe ubuntu would have them. What's worse than paid closed source? Subscription-based closed source requiring internet access to validate. No thank you! Never ever will I accept that.
Since I've tried Pop OS Linux 20.04 I never return to windows as my main daily driver. Video editing, photo editing, scripts, lesson plan, presentation, online teaching, on-site teaching and so on. no problem. But I still keep windows in multiple mode alongside with Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Elementary, Linux Lite, Big Linux and Manjaro for my testing and examples. Try to see details on my channel all content made in Linux.
I believe the general consensus regarding dual booting Linux and Windows, is DONT do it, unless you have 2 seperate hdd/ssd's to install them seperatley on to, as Windows update invariably tends to destroy the grub bootloader. rendering your Linux installation inaccessible - and even if you fix it, unless you disable Windows update......in time, it will just do it again.
With win10 a do not have that problem
I love Linux don't get me wrong it's amazing, what the fan base doesn't get is that it's still not as easy to use as windows, I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this but not everyone is willing to deal with the quirks of daily driving Linux plus the confusion of just choosing a distro which is incredible for us nerds you have a lot of choices for distro hopping but for someone trying to settle down in an OS it's not the best
It takes a special kind of....uhm to think Linux is harder than Windows. As an expert with 42 years experience, you are the first person saying that. One's never too old.....
You can use pop os auto tiling for managing window with super arrow key. Alternative to windows panneling.
Installation is easy you just have to take safe mode off in bios. Pop is plug and play you just have to do update and upgrade in command line. I have it on a notepad document. copy and paste into terminal. Min dose not need any coddling at all.
I used mint for a while; if it weren't got Windows Game DVR's "record what happened" feature I'd probably still use it as my main OS, if not pop OS. Most of my early content was edited on a laptop running Linux mint
Overall, the reason you would use it is because you don't want to use windows or mac os. If you use software specific to those platforms, it's not really a good idea to switch over. Like you said with your Adobe programs; you can find an alternative to work but most people they'd rather have what they know and like.
As for gaming with Steam there is proton to get compatibility with windows games, though not all work equally.
BTW great quality for the video; surprised you only have 6.55k subs (at the time of me typing this at least).
Yeah, I think trying Linux just to try it without too much reason means any shortcomings will push people away. Having a specific reason really makes you want to stick with it more. I appreciate it!! Hopefully I can get to 10k soon would basically be a dream come true haha
I have two Synology NAS'es and I have no problem connecting to it using SMB of NFS using Linux. Just have to enable certain settings. Once I'm done with all the settings on the server side, I connected to my network shares by editing the fstab file on the root/etc/ folder then mount it manually using the terminal to see if it works. It can be a hit or miss and may require further tinkering and researching but it shouldn't be too hard to do.
For my set up, all my network shares automatically mounts when I log-in on my Linux machine. For browser, if Chrome is giving you issues, try Brave or Vilvaldi. They are both Chrome-based browsers. Personally, I use LibreWolf and Firefox.
I was a Windows power user too before I switched to Linux. What made it easier for me to switch is I just didn't jump in. I did some research and looked for alternatives for the apps I often use in Windows. I was actually surprised that Linux has some better apps than what I used to use in Windows.. and all of it for free. After that, I tried a bunch of distros. I tried Mint, PopOS, Manjaro, Fedora, Debian, Garuda, Ubuntu, etc. After trying a bunch, I knew I had to go with the KDE desktop environment since it's the closest to Windows. I went with Manjaro and it was good for a while until I broke something. Now I'm on MX Linux (KDE) and luvin' it so far.
HI, long time Linux/Lenovo user here (started with Unix back in the late 80s and switched to Linux, almost always on a Lenovo laptop, around 1999/2000 and used it as my main driver until 2019, when I retired and decided to do video as a hobby ... turns out almost all cameras and video equipment have native apps that only run on Windows or Mac ... so not wanting to jump through unreliable hoops I decided I might as well go with Windows.
The mouse and touchpad issue (lagging and unresponsive) you are having is in my experience a common issue with Lenovo, which is why I long ago stopped using the touchpad unless necessary and use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse instead.
Personally, I wish the video/photo apps I run worked as well (or were supported as well, Davinci Resolve is my main NLM, and while it runs on Linux, it's not supported near as well there as it is on WIndows & Mac) on Linux, I;d switch back in a second since for the most part Linux is far better and generally far more performant than bloated Windows (I can't tell you how many times a day Windows, on my i7 16 core, 32GB memory, dual 1TB NVMe drives, comes to a crawl running a few tabs on my browser (Chrome, Firefox or Edge, doesn't matter.)
Windows sucks, but hardware and software developers continue to write code for it so I guess that's how the world works and I'll have to live with it until I decide my hobby will consist of 'only things that run on Linux'!!
Interesting, I had no idea Resolve was supported at all on Linux. Windows is for sure bloated, and it gets worse by the year. I regularly hit 16gb+ ram used on windows, but never hit over 10gb on Pop OS doing all the same things (like hoarding tons of tabs between both Firefox and chrome) Video/photo is my favorite hobby though, and now makes me money through TH-cam, so $150 for more ram and a bigger SSD is a price I'm wiling to pay.
@@aChairLeg yeah, me too, but I really wish developers and hardware manufacturers would start to make the sensible choice and start making Linux the priority platform.
I have a second laptop, an old it with 8Gb men and no GPU that I run a server version of Linux (ie. no desktop manager, or command line) that I use to run as a storage server and Nextcloud to automatically backup all my phone media for my phone and my wife's phone, and a few other services like that for schedules, time management, web services, etc... it never hits more than 5 or 10% cpu at the busiest of times, it is up 100% of the time, draws next to no power (close the lid, screen off) makes no noise as the fan is never needed ... under Windows it would run constantly at 40 or 50% doing nothing but running Windows.
You can also give Shotcut a try. It's pretty basic, but definitely usable and easier to install and get started with than Resolve. Resolve is definitely more a pro tool, but can be tricky to run on Debian-based systems at times (like Ubuntu and PopOS).
There's no 16 core i7.
Also, the coming to a crawl running a few tabs... I've never had that. And I have a 6yo laptop with i7 6700HQ with 4 cores. And I have A LOT of tabs. In FFX, Chrome and Opera (don't use Opera, I'm too lazy to switch, it's an outdated browser nowadays). But from what I know from a friend, there's a very good chance that it's windows update that suddently makes your computer slow to a crawl. I got win 10 pro key for about $10 5 years ago, the best $10 paid. After quite some hassle to properly permantly disable automatic windows updates (which you need the Pro version for), Windows behaved exactly as I wanted. In 6 years I had 4 blue screens of death. I had 100 day uptime, though nowadays I try to limit that to a month, so to keep it fairly up to date. In general I think I restarted it about 100 times in these 6 years. And yeah, it's the same Windows it came with the laptop in 2016. I've never reinstalled it, only upgraded it to Pro at one point.
I hate Microsoft, but properly configured Win 10 (can't speak for Win 11, I don't know how it is, and I don't want to know) is rock solid. Provided you also don't have sketchy/faulty hardware or drivers (which is not Windows' or Microsoft's fault)
@@aChairLeg Not only is Resolve supported on Linux, but its rendering performance is considerably higher than on Windows, just like in other professional programs like Blender, Nuke, Maya, C4D, Houdini, etc. Actually, Resolve was originally a Linux only program, it became cross platform later.
The supposed limitations are only on the free version of Resolve, where the Linux version lacks a few codecs for licensing issues. The studio version is equivalent to Mac and Windows and certainly worth the price, especially if you consider that professionals get the studio license included with the Blackmagic hardware they buy.
I love linux way over windows and MacOS.
The only problem, is a big problem...
Adobe, Office, and Engineering/scientific software doesn't work on linux.
And Videogames run overall slower or you still don't have all the game library on linux.
did you tried darktable? it is a great alternative to lightroom
If your browser is freezing randomly is because something controls your CPU's performance scale. I had this issue. I installed Corectrl( it is like msi afterburner but for linux but can control the CPU as well) and set the CPU's performance scaling to "Do not control". Also I would turn off mitigations, it helps with the performance and I would definitely try Proton GE for gaming. I am a Linux newbie as well, I only use it for 3 months now but so far the only big issue I had is that when installing windows 10 it deleted my grub so I had to wipe my whole system ssd. And last thing, I have tried Gnome and KDE, but KDE is so much better. Better and more various options, more responsive and looks more like Windows.
You might want to use Cinnamon (as featured on Mint) as a desktop; I find it an easy transition from Windows, and a bit more comfortable than KDE. It's kind of boring, which is a good thing, for me.
When you use Windows, you use it so that you can use your favorite 3rd party applications. When you use Linux, you have to see Linux as the hobby itself. Being productive with it is just a bonus.
Haha I have too many hobbies as it stands. Even with how much better linux is now, it still took a decent chunk of my schedule just to get it all setup and get used to it.
I have to disagree. I use Linux for 3 years now and I'm way more productive with it. For me it would be the other way around now because I'm not familiar with the workflow. I think the biggest problem for most people is that their workflow evolves around some applications which only work on Linux. You would have to switch to other programs and this would take some time getting used to. It's like reorganizing your house. First you don't know where stuff is but in the end it might be better and you wonder why you kept the old way so long.
I completely disagree aswell, I find I'm much more productive with linux as it can be molded to fit to my workflow rather than with windows having to change my preferred workflow to fit in microsofts confined way to do tasks. Along with the ability to make scripts to automate different parts of my workflow and binding any assortment of keybindings to do said process or rearrange my workspace without taking my hands away from my keyboard. It can fit any workflow or even enhance it.
Great video! You gave it a fair shot and I'm happy to see the experience was positive overall. Totally understandable that you switch back to Windows if your workflow depends from Adobe. Maybe keep playing with Linux in a VW and one day you can switch!
You don't need to wipe you flashdrive btw, to use it as an installer for a different distro. You just install ventoy on it and use as many . iso files as you want. It'll just offer you a choice which installer to launch when you boot with it.
That's awesome! I wish I knew that sooner, I have a 256 gb SSD that's been sitting since I can't figure out how to load it with all the operating systems I use all at once.
@@aChairLeg all the operating systems you use? Ventoy can launch .iso files only. So that instead of formating flashdrive for each installer you format it with Ventoy and you can store all installers at once + other files you want.
@@aChairLeg use ventoy
for me, the best is having both. My gaming pc is windows. My work laptop in linux mint. I like having the separation, it helps me focus on work because there's less distractions, and then when I game I feel like I can really relax because I'm not in my work environment.
Great video! Would love to play some factorio with you some day lol. Thanks for giving the tux some love.
Thank you! I'm actually really bad at factorio haha. Every couple of months I'll startup a new world and struggle to get past trains, but I have a hell of a time until then!
@@aChairLeg do you have a discord? I'm also horrible and forget what the heck I'm doing lol.
I'm actually considering making a discord for my channel, I might make a poll and see what kind of engagement it gets
It's funny that Linux Mint just works on the first install yet Pop OS is still preferred even if there was so many problems encountered with it. Mint is always cited as beginner's distro yet it's robust & stable to be a daily driver even for staunch linux users. ;-)
Mint is the Landcruiser of Operating Systems indeed. It just shows up, it just works, it's not going to blow you over with its looks, but you're going to get your job done, without hassles. I just again downloaded LMDE6. That's the Debian edition.
Linux rewards power-users. Linux command line is definately not overrated. That's the biggest reason to use it. Also it is way more efficient with your resources. But that's about it. IMO Linux GUI doesn't look very good and for normal users and gamers, windows is just better. Only use Linux if you value open-source, or you have old pc, or you're a nerd :D
Once you spend the time to make Linux your own, it can for sure make you hyper-efficient. I don't think I'm at the point where I want to dedicate my time to it yet. I can appreciate how much faster just using the terminal to get all my programs on Ubuntu was once I memorized them all though
I have a dual battery thinkpad, have no issues...
Also almost all Windows games will work, just enable Proton.
8:54 This sounds like it might be trying to access an audio device that isn't connected, which is a problem I also have sometimes. Next time it happens maybe try installing pulseaudio volume control (that's "sudo apt install pavucontrol") and checking the output devices tab. Click the checkmark on whatever audio device you want to use so that the box around it is dark. That will make it the default output device and should fix the problem if I've guessed it right.
My first experience with linux was like you, ubuntu around 2014 where my mate had it. I hated trying to play games with him so much I gave him a windows key and vowed never to touch linux again.
I have since used Linux because that's what the steam deck is running and quite frankly I could not deal with that as my main operating system and it still has many of the same issues. Simply playing games on my steam library isn't perfect and requires a fair bit of effort to get things done for alot of games. Even if things did work perfectly for gaming, the second I wanted to do literally anything that wasn't playing a game (heck even simply modding a game) it became a monumental headache. My worst experience was getting a program working that let me use steams play together on any game. It took me all of 30 seconds to get it working on windows, it took me over 24 hours and scouring forums and downloading multiple different apt and asking multiple Linux users on reddit just to find out I couldn't do it yet on Linux (this program literally had a linux version too but was for fedora which uses a different family to steam OS which I didn't even know there were different base OS's, another reason for incredible incompatability).
Anyone saying Linux is good for daily driving is simply lying to themselves for most people. So many OS's and distro's lead to insane amounts of incompatibilities and most people don't want to waste hours of their lives doing something they could do on MAC or Windows in a minute or so. This isn't even mentioning how there are large portions of the Linux community who will belittle and act elitist on forums when you ask for help. Then they wonder why noone wants to get into Linux. Not everyone is obnoxiously horrific, but those who are actively hurt trying to find those who are helpful like downvoting posts on reddits designed specifically for help with Linux.
I am software developer, Linux is 1000 better than Windows for what I do.
With your attitude downvotes are expected. Distributions are actually very similar - mostly same software with different defaults. Bazar model allows communities to experiment. By comparison Windows and Mac define experience - people like me become outcasts.
yay i was in the video
Always do a checksum on the iso before installing. They can get corrupted on many USBs
Personally, I have been on / off on Linux for a long time before I permanently switched. I always used it on laptops since about 2009, but my desktop remained mostly windows until a few years ago.
The most important takeaway from my experience is that Linux is not Windows. As you start out, your workflow will be a lot closer to that of Windows. But as time moves forward, you will discover things that simply are not possible on Windows. You personalize things more and more and drift further away from what can be done in windows. The terminal which at first seems scary / inconvenient starts to become a great asset you willingly start using more and more. At least that is how it went for me.
Right now, if I use windows for a bit, I instinctively press ctrl+alt+esc to kill things I want to close.
And to finish off with a meme, I use Arch btw (with KDE Plasma as my desktop).
It's possible to run Windows in a VM and pass the GPU to the VM which makes Windows run at near native speed and without dual booting. It's quite complex to setup, but once you do, it's amazing. With only one GPU you need to unload the kernel video drivers so the VM GPU passthrough works then reload the drivers when you quit the VM. There are several guides on TH-cam. But it is highly technical. Recommend you get SSH and RDP working to the Linux and Windows so if you mess up the kernel module load / unloading scripts you can at least access the system instead of being stuck with no video.
You have done so many things "the wrong way", yet it's not your fault in the slightest.
I moved to Linux on my t440 and welp I've pretty much swapped entirely to it.
Lol try linux mint for few seconds and already hated and no explanation hmm .
Linux mint sucks balls. Worst distro IMHO, do not recommend 😂😂😂
It looks like a kid designed it
Linux is for dorks. You should try TempleOS
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If you truly hate using the terminal, MX Linux and OpenSUSE are 100% graphical and very easy to use.
Pretty sure OpenSUSE has Samba support out of the box.
I've been dipping in and out of Linux for the last few years. Between Mint & Zorin OS. Also gave Elementary a whirl. Tried Manjaro but didn't take to it, felt it was too bloated. I dumped Windows 11 last week and I have been running KDE Neon since. Been loving it so far and had no real issues :D
how much difference you think linux made on the battery life compared to windows ? I love thinkpad laptops but not so much the battery life
I used Pop OS daily and I can confirm the SMB file problem. Apparently there's a bug that makes the folder won't show up at all.
Don't forget that when you install steam on Linux you have to go to "Settings" then "Compatibility" then turn "Enable Steam Play for all other titles" on to make the games that don't say they are Linux compatible automatically run on proton. I have no clue why it isn't turned on by default but it is what it is.
The command line is your friend. When I was a kid, DOS used to intimidate me and I realized that with my parents income and hand me downs. DOS and command line would be facts of life until at least college which is what happened. My 10 year old self and DOS for Dummies had a good time. Learn it now and use it for a lifetime, teach it to your kids. It is just like riding a bike.
Pretty honest video with fair problems, I think being stuck on Windows because of Adobe/Office is one of the most common reasons not to switch. I feel like the issues on Linux are constantly improving and maybe more companies will decide to support it in the future.
For anyone watching, if you want to try Linux seriously you need to make sure you will be fine with the different software supported on Linux. There is no Microsoft Office for example, you will have to use a (usually free) alternative like Libre Office. If youre a programmer / developer this isnt really a problem, so you only really have the benefits of Linux without missing out on too much.
I would recommend Linux Mint over all other distros for a beginner. Its difficult to break something, and in Linux Mint you will be using the terminal less than you did even in Windows. A lot of people decide to stick to Linux Mint, just because its a really well made distro with a solid desktop environment.
linux version of steam has a setting where you can enable proton to allow you to play windows games on linux
When comfortable with Linux, you might consider switching to a Plasma Desktop, which is way more configurable for way more work! I have a tiling script, plus the Windows Power Toys-esque Drag and Drop Tiling thats standard in Plasma, more Shortcuts than i can remember to resize and move windows (including between screens), Windows-like Multi Desktops, Mac-like Multi Desktops (Windows: Same Desktop but different Windows "Virtual Desktops", Mac: Different Layout, Background, etc (Activities)) and much more
Maybe 8 more years will do the trick
I think if you're really willing to put in the work, it can take you pretty far now. I can't imagine what Linux will look like in 8 more years though.
@@aChairLeg I switched to Linux 1 year ago and after a bunch of distrohopping, i ended up with Fedora with cinnamon desktop and stick with it, it was worth it for me.
For dualbooting I use self-made shortcut. It kinda hard to explain for new user, but you can found "howto" in google I think.
Basically, that shortcut changing "next boot only" option to what you need (if by default that linux, you can change it to windows).
Command for that looks like that: sudo efibootmgr -n 0002 && sudo systemctl reboot
-n means "next boot", number means number of option you want boot. What number in your situations can be seen by just simply typing "efibootmgr" in terminal.
Or you probably can use same fancy gui app nowdays. Or even find why bootloader not seen your windows install. That just not "a linux way" for me.
I've hopped around for years, even using Ubuntu for a year a few years back, but I never really settled and kept coming back to windows 7. Then I got a steam deck and ended up using it more often than my main pc. Because the deck had Arch I quickly got comfortable with it and I soon realized I may have found my favorite OS. Now my main pc also has Arch installed and I've not even considered going back.
Now if only I could have it on my work's development laptop I'd be happy. Unfortunately that has windows 10 and Its a daily headache.
I also have the issue with earbuds, I did on Ubuntu and I still do on blendOS (Arch). I've stopped putting my earbuds in the case when I walk away from the desk, so they only have to disconnect/reconnect a few times throughout the day. The TH-cam issue seems to be a result of the browser trying to initialize audio, while the earbuds are seemingly in a semi-connected state(?)
It's all strange, but it seems to happen more often with more disconnects/reconnects, so reducing the number of times you do that should help.
There are commercial software vendors for Linux with custom software that far exceeds anything available on Microsoft, from graphics and modeling programs, software development, audio/video production, engineering and design, to e-commerce and corporate, data backup, systems design, and commercial device drivers. You don't have to only use free software on Linux.
I love a keyboard centric workflow, with common tasks assigned to short sequences of key combos. So win+t gets me a terminal, win+w gets me a browser, win+1 gets me writer, win+2 gets me calc. Then within the terminal they way you can write scripts means that e.g. my mpd-based media player is controlled by a script called mp (which wraps mpc), and likewise many tasks are accomplished with ease. (Thus is with Kubuntu). Windows is klunky by comparison, takes many times longer to set up, eats battery like crazy; and macos is like trying to type wearing rubber gloves. I want my machine to do what it's told, and little else, and to have the facility to easily tell my machine what I want with a minimum of effort. Linux wins big in this regard.
Mind you, I'm comfortable with Windows, Linux and Macos, and important things I can do on any of them. Windows is primarily there for music and a bit of video editing. My mac mini is just a media player for my TV.
I have a Debian minimal install (Bookworm/testing) in conjunction with openbox.. It uses barely 400 MB when idling.
About not piping into the terminal.... I literally have terminal in my startup config on windows...
On Linux I always use the terminal for package managing since if you know the base commands of your distro... It's way faster.
The 3 distro's you mentioned all use apt as base package managment system. The command to update the repositories and upgrade the installed packages to the new version is: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
Command explanation:
Sudo = run as superuser (admin)
Apt = package manager
Update = syncing/updating repositories
Upgrade = upgrading installed packages
Besides apt on popOS there is flatpak a different way of package packaging (multi distro compatibility bla bla bla)
Update from terminal is literally just "flatpak update" as command......
A challenge for you would be installing arch with the old way of installing arch (you need to manually do things like disk partitioning (not guided partitioning, which is way better) and such...
I find it interesting how there are many “computer nerds” who are seemingly afraid of command line. Not attacking anyone… just find it interesting.
@@646464mario same here, something that I think most of them have in common.....
They run windows or macOS...
Linux becomes easier instead of more confusing for most people... Since most desktop environments have confusing settings layouts (KDE), sub par stores (old gnome, old KDE, LXQT and many more) or other things that will be faster or easier to do in the terminal...
Knowing what you exactly want to do and you don't know where it is that is way faster in the terminal.
@@imtiredtoday Here is my opinion: Don't be a SysAdmin setting up and configuring servers if you are afraid of CLI. You can disagree, but thinking that way only hinders your ability to do things.
Even when I use macOS, I always have a terminal window on my side ready for when I need it. Yes, the GUI these days allows for a lot of stuff but not all of it.
CLI is faster, lighter and allows for finer-tuning and in my opinion, a more intimate understanding of the OS you are working with.
@@646464mario totally agree.
And honestly I cringe if I see someone looking up their IP address within a gui... Well yes you will do that in 2 cases regularly: 1 DHCP reservation 2 troubleshooting.
But still even though I know where to find it in windows settings it still is really annoying compared to alt+space typing term enter and ipconfig
Or on Linux Ctrl + Alt+t in general and ip a or ifconfig (they do mostly the same but look different)
Or if you're settling up a server... A GUI could be a nightmare... (Except for AD and an RDS environment)...
But Powershell commands are just weird like Invoke-WebRequest instead of wget... And it's insistence on arguments instead of sane defaults (the true Powershell equivalent to ipconfig is a true nightmare, and impossible to find since everyone just juces the cmdlet ipconfig.exe anyway)
Sorry for my rant but this topic just is inviting to rant like comments... And I'm not good at short explanations...