@@BigPlanesCustomLEGOaircraftNot at the moment. iPhone xs max is better than the note 9. Its design is nicer, processor is faster, speakers better and operating system is superior.
@Jade Kilgallon tf are you plonking on about. The pixel 3 is a horrible phone. It has a massive notch, the whole build feels tacky as its plastic, the back scratches like a scratch card. iPhones have the fastest processors by far. a12 vs snapdragon 445 is not even a comparison. The a12 has a geekbench score of 5000 and the snapdragon 445 is 2000.
@@UnemotionalBandit do you noticed xs max has big notch too and note 9 is better iphone for kids because -no headphone jack - have to use dongle - fast charging not supported (ecxept fast charging apple charger) - no emulator and file manager Is it called for profesional or kids?
@@UnemotionalBandit Its arguable. Alot of BIG reviewers like mkbhd and others who DO like the xs max, say that both are good but the note 9 just gives you more for your money, and it is worth 1000$
I'm an Android kind of guy but Android tablets will never be a true contender in the tablet industry until they begin converting all the apps to tablet specific apps which is where the iPad is king. Another place where the iPad is king is Facetime. There is NO messaging app out there like it that uses so little data and gives you such a smooth video call experience. I have an Android device for my mobile but for table an iPad cause I know when I travel to some third world country with crappy internet my Facetime will work. On that though, I WILL NOT shell out $1,000 for a new iPad, they're out of their minds. I don't need the newest iPad just for TH-cam, Facebook and Facetime cause let's be real that's all tablets are good for. Maybe some people here use it for other things but most people use it for those 3 things, so really the fact it has the king processor doesn't matter because it is limited to iOS and its maximum potential.
Ahead, definitely. Decades....no. Apple's A12 soc is way ahead of Intel and the rest of the hardware is better but not by much. iOS vs Chrome OS is subjective and will vary from person to person. So hardware is better, software subjective but Chrome OS (in my opinion) is improving at a faster rate than iOS.
iPad Pro 2018 is a beast...fastest processor...120Hz.... it’s pencil is highly responsive n on top doesn’t need batteries (🤦♂️in 2018) ... google looks cheap in appearance. Beat these points ...
@@AznUzer this is a comparison of tablets and the surface fails miserably in tablet wise less apps and less tablet features. It blows away the iPad and Pixel Slate yet tablet wise it sucks.
EXCELLENT review, really worth it. The iPad Pro 2018 is definitely superior on both hardware and software BUT, this is only an IPad. It is not a device to seriously consider as a replacement of a laptop. The Pixel Slate is a bit a disappointment considering the price and the technology available out there, BUT as for all Chrome OS devices, you can completely switch to it from your computer. As long as you work 100% on a cloud base (better with Google Suite), you can say goodbye to your computer and work exclusively on the Pixel Slate. If you want to enjoy a Chrome OS experience with a real tablet, I highly recommend to try the HP Chromebook X2 which is really cheap compared to the Pixel Slate, and wait for the next generation of the Pixel Slate, Google will hopefully improve its hardware and overall performances.
They may improve the specs and performance of the next pixel slate but that will likely include another price increase and people already don’t wanna pay for current devices Chrome os is best for devices $350 and cheaper But after that $350 price point the cpu performance and built in storage isn’t worth the asking price
If they used the quad core or hexscore ones with hyperthreading and better GPU whittle have been different result. I guess Intel focus more on laptop and desktop performance.
Yep. Honestly, I think Google's reason for chromebooks sucking while Android is good is the same reason Macs are sucking while iOS is good. They both rely on intel chips, while that company keeps fucking up more and more and more and more. The sooner both Google and Apple can completely break away from intel, is when ChromeOS and macOS start to have some *truly* good hardware.
I've been using Chrome OS for 8 years without a hitch for work and play. Please do explain the "limitations" in comparison to Windows you mentioned in your video. I hear about "limitations" of Chrome OS so much (and it's sickening) but no one is able to quantify those "limitations" on video. I don't miss working on a legacy OS such as Mac OS and Windows, never going back.
Dino Rodriguez the ability to use professional software such as Adobe products. Many programs are not even available. Not a good experience for drawing. It's a good toy for school work and TH-cam, that's all.
The iPad Pro 10,5 has DCI - P3, iOS 12, 120Hz Screen, 264PPI, 4 Stereo speakers and A10X that is more powerfull than the intel i7 (Y7 8th generation) and cost 500 dollars in eBay. Yep the iPad Pro is better than the Pixel Slate xD
Daruyos Daruyos the iPad Pro 10,5 use the A10X and now cost 650$, the iPad Pro 11 use the A12X and now cost 800$ but is 2X more Powerfull in CPU and GPU than the A10X.
Yeah I'd definitely like to see the 3 way comparison. I've owned several Surface products and I think many people have experience with Surface products now. I think comparing these to the Surface would help people gain a point of real world reference to gain more perspective on your opinions of these unique devices.
Jade Kilgallon Hi lunatic. You should really check the price for this slate garbage. 64GB starts at $799, exactly same as 64GB iPad Pro. Maxed out Pixel Slate plus accessories will go above $2,000 with only 256GB storage. So for the same price, not only are you getting the shittiest OS with 0 tablet optimization, it also comes with the worst hardware integration ever. How stupid do you need to be to defend such an idiotic product?
As an artist i would completely recommend the iPad Pro over the Slate! Cloudready software is, well, not ready for big use for artists, if you are looking for that!
I felt that your summary at the end was really rather useless. Also, generally when comparing two devices it is usually to determine which one is better, while each person is going to have their own opinion, most people want to hear a recommendation or a choice of which is better from the video, you just dropped a drawback of the Pixel Slate and ended the video.
The shot at 0:33 is exactly why I use an iPad Pro. All of these 2 in 1s are too damn skinny and are much worse for reading sheet music in portrait. I obviously know that most people don’t care about that but I need my tablet to be the best possible sheet music reader and the 12.9 iPad Pro is by far the best.
I got the Slate for $450 with pen and keyboard. I can't complain now it's a great price for what you get. It mainly serves as my TV, TH-cam, Netfix, Twitch, Web browsing machine and pretty zippy for those tasks. I dont need a super powerful one since I dont edit nor play games on it. ChromeOS runs linux now too so its a pretty nice addition.
Ive been toying with the idea of only working with a tablet instead of paper and pens (as a student). I would like to see a comparison of all 3 platforms :)
Jon Son I have gone through most of my university studies with a ups Pro and when you have learned to use ios it is a fantastic tool, i highly recommend it! :)
Jon Son get a Surface Pro. You may run into classes that require certain software that will almost always be on Windows. You can also swap the tips out of the pen for a better feel.
Jon Son absolutely do not get a surface pro, as students our income is usually shit. Surface pros fail, I know this personally from the two I have owned. They are a waste of money. If you want windows, just get a laptop but absolutely stay farrrrrrrrrr away from Microsoft’s surface line. I also have personal experience with the IPad Pro. The i pad won’t fail on you, it will remain stable and it will last you a long time. It is the perfect device for notes and textbooks, it’s actually amazing once you get everything set up!! Depending on your major, it just won’t cut it for everything. If you are in a liberal arts major, and excel isn’t a biggy, then the iPad will suit you all the way through college. If you need excel a lot, and you are doing coding I would recommend getting a laptop as there isn’t a good alternative to the iPad that gives you a great excel experience with enough juice for coding. Also, the battery on the iPad when only used for school and class will last you days. If you already have a laptop, or desktop with windows, or apples OS then absolutely get the iPad as if you do possibly come across something you can’t do, then you can just do it on you desktop or laptop.
Get an iPad and a regular laptop. Just don’t get the new iPad Pro so you can have money left for a laptop. If you can’t, then just get a laptop, unless you like to draw a lot.
@@adeetard2545 It is still a crippled version lmfao. And there's mobile PS if you missed that. The iPad is just a overpowered candy crush device, nothing more.
You missed to mention the 120Hz display. You missed that the Apple Pencil sticks to the iPad via magnets and charges wirelessly while beeing on the side of the iPad. Even if you hate Apple: The Slate is significantly slower than the iPad. Even if the Slate is fully speced. You. can't really deny that. Also to all those people complainig about iOS and how it isn't a desktop-grade OS: chromeOS isn't that useful in that aspect either. ChromeOS can run Android-Apps, yes. Does it run full Photoshop tho? Or any other major programs that you would expect on a desktop-grade operating-system? No, it doesn't.
MW, your one of the very few that did a Slate review with the m3. During your usage, have you noticed any slowdown with web browsing on the m3 processor?
I think you needed to include more personal experiences, it mostly felt like you were just spouting specs. Also, some sort of final conclusion or recommendation about which one you'd recommend, who would suit which service etc would have been useful.
RealSupaHotFireVEVO - The Surface Pro is a great laptop that also has a touch screen. You need the keyboard or it’s terrible. The iPad Pro is much better as a tablet when you use only touch inputs.
+Rob Smith I heavily disagree. The Surface is made to be a tablet and it works as a tablet, the keyboard is just one of its accessories, exactly like the iPad. I mean you honestly cannot be comparing iOS to Windows 10, are you?
RealSupaHotFireVEVO - I’m sorry but I heavily disagree. I had every intention to buy a Surface Pro this year but it just doesn’t function nearly as well as an iPad as a touch only device. Every single thing you do on an iPad is designed for touch input. You can’t say that for the Surface. For my personal needs the 12.9 iPad is much better. I’m a professional musician and I keep 1000s of pages of sheet music on my iPad. The Surface is skinnier in portrait mode and isn’t nearly as good for reading music. The camera is better on the iPad and I often use it to scan new sheet music. I use the Pencil to mark up sheet music in ForScore. The iPad has Bluetooth 5.0 and the Surface has 4. I need the lowest latency possible when using a Bluetooth speaker. Windows is obviously more capable than iOS and the Surface Pro could likely replace my MacBook... but it can’t replace my iPad.
RealSupaHotFireVEVO - On the flipside, if I didn’t already have a laptop and I absolutely needed one device to be my laptop and tablet, I would probably deal with the compromises and get a Surface.
Has the slate improved in the software department? Debating between these 2 now that google dropped the price on the slate. Btw I have a pixel phone and am not sure how well it plays with the iPad
The Surface Pro is more of a laptop that has a tablet form factor and tablet abilities. The iPad is a tablet with some laptop abilities. The Pixel slate is just a second rate Pixelbook, which itself is an overpriced chrome book.
You can't compare an M-processor to the A12 chip. Even the I7 isn't a fair comparison. But if you went to the I5 or the I7, you'll get better mutli app performance. I have the I5 and it works just fine, but still no comparison to my iPad Pro 11inch. I have had the Pixelbook with an I5 processor and it lags a lot less than my MacBook Pro 13 (2017 edition).
Lags because of it's OS. The MacBook has some power consuming applications like the FCPX. And the Pixelbook was just a desktop browser in addition to Android apps. And it also lags when multitasking whereas the MacBooks don't.
Of course the processor will be faster as is an arm based processor, chrome os runs in a x64 platform , meaning you can run full programs on it instructions will run different.
I hope you've mentioned the 120hz display of iPad Pro vs 20hz of Slate😂. One of the biggest selling point of iPad Pro is it's display. Google already halt production of the Slate because of poor sale.
Damn why didn't you use I5 variant. It would have price matched better. I also really think it should be the top tiers of both devices no matter the price difference the chips are too far apart in performance.
If you get the i5 chromeos you'll have no sluggishness and will more easily match the iPad multitasking. This is what I have on my pixel book. And I've yet to bog it down
The slate is a crappy Chromebook but you really cannot and should not compare the experience between iOS and ChromeOS. ChromeOS is more akin to a desktop with better file management, more user options and DESKTOP browser support. The Android apps (where the geekbench test was run) runs in a container and so are really throttled. They are more there for additional productivity functionality. The iPad has its entire amazing app ecosystem and the best chip out there (A12) but it does not give you pc-like experience at all. So really ... We shouldn't compare the two. That being said, Google is really going against the entire point of Chromebooks by launching something that overpriced.
why did you use m3 processor for a total of 1100$? you could've used an i5 processor which costs 1300. That would be closer to ipad pro in terms of cost and performance........
They're m5 and m7 processors. Intel just changed the names to i5 and i7 for marketing purposes due to bad sales because m5 and m7 sound weak. Either way, all 3 options would be slower but not slower at the same time. Different CPU architectures.
It's a little odd that you start with a term and a definition which includes 'usually' an attachable keyboard and trackpad and then name niche leader as the ipad - which notoriously has no trackpad or support for a cursor at all. Ultimately this was nothing but a spec sheet comparison of benchmark outcomes. interestingly you start by pointing out that the Pixel has a technically superior screen but then go on to say it does not matter in use. Then you take most of the video to say the ipad is faster in benchmarks but make little comment as to how that presents itself in actual use. Namely - how meaningful is it actually when I'm just surfing the web or writing a document. You do mention the ipad seems to hold up better in practical use while running a video but also mention the many apps it's also running in the background. What does that mean? What apps and what is it doing with them in the background. If it's rendering video back there or something OK. If it just has an app in a parked state then so what... Finally you completely fail to mention that along with that trackpad and cursor you get a full blown desktop style interface from the pixel in docked configuration. Meaning fully floating and resizable windows and very mature external monitor support. The latest ipad pro has only basic external monitor cloning. Don't get me wrong the ipad pro is an impressive piece of hardware and for that matter iOS has a lot of great features too. But if we are talking about using it as a laptop then it simply doesn't do what the pixel does. Frankly I think Slate is a pretty good first gen unit compared to the polish of the ipad pro which is the product of multiple generations of heaps of attention by Apple. Not that this contrast means much to what a person might choose. To me it's pretty simple. If I want to do anything with music then it's definitely the ipad. If I want to have an actual computer experience with a cursor and full browser and run an external monitor if I want then it's definitely the pixels. If I want multi user support then it's definitely the pixel. In between there is lots of room for personal choice and familiarity and perhaps specific knowledge of specific apps and what they might do. Lastly I think leaving anything about Linux out is pretty dismissive. The usual toss off comment about Windows being 'more' or 'better' or 'full fledged' or whatever is just sloppy and vague and at this point a worn and somewhat meaningless cliche. If you think Windows is more capable then say exactly why. Exactly what apps you run or feel most people run that Windows does and Chrome OS does not. There are certainly some to choose from. Some people will care about that. Many won't. It's like saying a truck is more fully featured than small two door car. Yes. Does that mean everyone should just buy a truck? Don't be silly.
well... this is disgusting but lets not forget that apple is marketing a desktop class performance and console quality but c'mon intel to lose in single core while having just 2 cores with hyper threading and higher frequency and still not even close 3900 vs 5000
There is no tablet other than the iPad for one simple reason: Apps. You can cram as much features as you want behind a touch screen, but with no tablet optimized software, it is completely worthless as a tablet. Could be a horrible laptop with good pen support (MS Surface), but not a tablet. Could be a horrible everything (Whatever Google makes), definitely not a tablet.
Where I'm from apple is a joke cause when new apple products come out I cant go to my store to get any products on day 1 it's on backorder for months Samsung everything they come out with you can buy on day 1 that's the only thing apple needs to work on awesome review btw
can the iPad be a full desktop computer? (NO) I'm pretty sure the pixel slate can become a full Chromebook experience. which in my opinion is more useful than a tablet only!
If you want a nice chrome book with a touch screen, just get a pixel book. They’re just trying to make a less expensive and inadvertently worse pixel book. But if you buy anything less than the i5 (and even that is slow and laggy occasionally) it doesn’t make sense, and it that point you’re spending 1k anyway, so you may as well get it with a keyboard included.
IMO sadly I cant say any OS does mobile Tablet right. Microsoft devices have a lot of problems, but great OS. Apple and Google offer great Tablets, but lack a Desktop mode. If Apple would do a iPad MacOS Desktop Mode, I would run out and buy one. I'm no Apple Fanboy, my last Apple device was a iPhone 4, but the new iPad is so good!
Lagger Gandalf I think iPad needs it’s own system, or an iOS independent of iPhone’s iOS. Apple tested out touch control macOS years ago, and decided not to do so because of limitations.
IMO I think it may actually be a bad idea to run MacOS simply because the iPad Pro is at the end of the day a tablet, and so needs to run a tablet OS. I think the Pixel Slate isn't a good Tablet software wise because it runs chrome OS. Sure Chrome OS supports touch but because its not built around touch they UI is very laggy and not very intuitive. Same goes for Windows, its a desktop OS with touch support but because its not build with touch it falls behind the iPad. Apple should simply give us some desktop functions like proper file explorer, mouse support and etc... but still run IOS. And if possible make some sort of desktop version of some Apps like Adobe, Blender etc... for the IPad.
surface - laptop slate - laptop and tablet ipad - tablet i either wish ipad had more laptop functionality or the slate was better as both a laptop and a tablet instead o being half assed
note apple slows down their hardware after about 24 months..the first ipad pro now runs slower than an 2018 ipad (you basic ipad) even though it's cpu is better...apple say it's for battery usage after 24 months.
2:45 oof that lag....instantly makes anything else on the market a better experience.
Sapan Varma - It seems so bad on the Slate. The 120 Hz iPad Pro screen is so quick.
If you think that's bad just look at him playing pubg on it.
@UCshit3vOOTeRUPleSwXrpug
I was literally pointing out what you just said. Learn to read.
Rob Smith
Roblox
You show how the slate has a fingerprint reader but fails to mention the iPad has Face ID that works in any orientation
Watches this from iPad Pro
Lunar Eclipse same
Lo me too
Laughs in iPad Pro
I am an Android fan
But Apple makes the best tablet
I agree, but Samsung makes the best phone.
@@BigPlanesCustomLEGOaircraftNot at the moment. iPhone xs max is better than the note 9. Its design is nicer, processor is faster, speakers better and operating system is superior.
@Jade Kilgallon tf are you plonking on about. The pixel 3 is a horrible phone. It has a massive notch, the whole build feels tacky as its plastic, the back scratches like a scratch card. iPhones have the fastest processors by far. a12 vs snapdragon 445 is not even a comparison. The a12 has a geekbench score of 5000 and the snapdragon 445 is 2000.
@@UnemotionalBandit do you noticed xs max has big notch too and note 9 is better iphone for kids because
-no headphone jack
- have to use dongle
- fast charging not supported (ecxept fast charging apple charger)
- no emulator and file manager
Is it called for profesional or kids?
@@UnemotionalBandit Its arguable. Alot of BIG reviewers like mkbhd and others who DO like the xs max, say that both are good but the note 9 just gives you more for your money, and it is worth 1000$
I'm an Android kind of guy but Android tablets will never be a true contender in the tablet industry until they begin converting all the apps to tablet specific apps which is where the iPad is king. Another place where the iPad is king is Facetime. There is NO messaging app out there like it that uses so little data and gives you such a smooth video call experience. I have an Android device for my mobile but for table an iPad cause I know when I travel to some third world country with crappy internet my Facetime will work. On that though, I WILL NOT shell out $1,000 for a new iPad, they're out of their minds. I don't need the newest iPad just for TH-cam, Facebook and Facetime cause let's be real that's all tablets are good for. Maybe some people here use it for other things but most people use it for those 3 things, so really the fact it has the king processor doesn't matter because it is limited to iOS and its maximum potential.
iPad is decades ahead of that pixel
Ahead, definitely. Decades....no. Apple's A12 soc is way ahead of Intel and the rest of the hardware is better but not by much. iOS vs Chrome OS is subjective and will vary from person to person. So hardware is better, software subjective but Chrome OS (in my opinion) is improving at a faster rate than iOS.
Geoffrey Lee chrome OS is so basic. Really that pixel sucks.
iOS sucks. It's decade backwards than Android. Get that into your thick skin kid.
Killer Drugs hahahah I’m a skin kid but you make videos of trash video games 🙌🏼
Killer Drugs pixel slate doesn’t use android it uses chrome OS
iPad Pro 2018 is a beast...fastest processor...120Hz.... it’s pencil is highly responsive n on top doesn’t need batteries (🤦♂️in 2018) ... google looks cheap in appearance. Beat these points ...
anishkumar1987 I bet you dont even own one.
@@aleksandarkurbalija What does that have to do with anything he just said? Gtfo
@@aleksandarkurbalija google chrome book? you are beyond stupid to own that.
The surface is a better laptop
@@AznUzer this is a comparison of tablets and the surface fails miserably in tablet wise less apps and less tablet features. It blows away the iPad and Pixel Slate yet tablet wise it sucks.
EXCELLENT review, really worth it. The iPad Pro 2018 is definitely superior on both hardware and software BUT, this is only an IPad. It is not a device to seriously consider as a replacement of a laptop. The Pixel Slate is a bit a disappointment considering the price and the technology available out there, BUT as for all Chrome OS devices, you can completely switch to it from your computer. As long as you work 100% on a cloud base (better with Google Suite), you can say goodbye to your computer and work exclusively on the Pixel Slate. If you want to enjoy a Chrome OS experience with a real tablet, I highly recommend to try the HP Chromebook X2 which is really cheap compared to the Pixel Slate, and wait for the next generation of the Pixel Slate, Google will hopefully improve its hardware and overall performances.
Frederic Biondi your joking, right?
They may improve the specs and performance of the next pixel slate but that will likely include another price increase and people already don’t wanna pay for current devices
Chrome os is best for devices $350 and cheaper
But after that $350 price point the cpu performance and built in storage isn’t worth the asking price
Ouch... M3 version vs iPad pro.... Stop watching after u said that.. 🤦🏽♂️
$1330 fair comparison, iPad Pro above against the i5 Slate with keyboard and pen = $1300 hmmm
@@KyleMorrisonbeavalator I agreed i5 would have been a better comparison..
Why wasn't the Core i5 Pixel slate used in this comparison?!!
Because it’s not the base one...
its not the base model
As long as ipad does not have a dedicated file manager, ipad is just an ipad hahahaa
Great comparision video. I'm happy user of Slate (i7). I like both devices. Thank you.
You mention 'FingerPrint' on Pixel Slate but dont mention'FaceID' on iPad Pro :(
These Intel cpu's are totaly garbage. 2016 level of performence.
True. Intel went downway very fast. Qualcomm or AMD will start to dominate the market
No the Pixel Slate uses crappy Y-series CPUs
If they used the quad core or hexscore ones with hyperthreading and better GPU whittle have been different result.
I guess Intel focus more on laptop and desktop performance.
The 8th gen Core M3 Is faster than a Snapdragon 845
Yep. Honestly, I think Google's reason for chromebooks sucking while Android is good is the same reason Macs are sucking while iOS is good. They both rely on intel chips, while that company keeps fucking up more and more and more and more. The sooner both Google and Apple can completely break away from intel, is when ChromeOS and macOS start to have some *truly* good hardware.
I've been using Chrome OS for 8 years without a hitch for work and play. Please do explain the "limitations" in comparison to Windows you mentioned in your video. I hear about "limitations" of Chrome OS so much (and it's sickening) but no one is able to quantify those "limitations" on video. I don't miss working on a legacy OS such as Mac OS and Windows, never going back.
Dino Rodriguez the ability to use professional software such as Adobe products. Many programs are not even available. Not a good experience for drawing. It's a good toy for school work and TH-cam, that's all.
The iPad Pro 10,5 has DCI - P3, iOS 12, 120Hz Screen, 264PPI, 4 Stereo speakers and A10X that is more powerfull than the intel i7 (Y7 8th generation) and cost 500 dollars in eBay. Yep the iPad Pro is better than the Pixel Slate xD
it's using A12X, not A10X.
Daruyos Daruyos the iPad Pro 10,5 use the A10X and now cost 650$, the iPad Pro 11 use the A12X and now cost 800$ but is 2X more Powerfull in CPU and GPU than the A10X.
Not more powerful than the i7 lol
Yeah I'd definitely like to see the 3 way comparison. I've owned several Surface products and I think many people have experience with Surface products now. I think comparing these to the Surface would help people gain a point of real world reference to gain more perspective on your opinions of these unique devices.
that pixel slate is slower than a 100$ android phone
Andrew Markhus that’s genuinely depressing
The comparison is an insult to the iPad
How?
@@juanc4rlos156 The Ipad is soo much better as a tablet.
@@stuff6181 I know 😂. Theres is clearly no comparison
@Jade Kilgallon says the person who's writing this comment using a friend's phone
Jade Kilgallon Hi lunatic. You should really check the price for this slate garbage. 64GB starts at $799, exactly same as 64GB iPad Pro. Maxed out Pixel Slate plus accessories will go above $2,000 with only 256GB storage. So for the same price, not only are you getting the shittiest OS with 0 tablet optimization, it also comes with the worst hardware integration ever. How stupid do you need to be to defend such an idiotic product?
As an artist i would completely recommend the iPad Pro over the Slate!
Cloudready software is, well, not ready for big use for artists, if you are looking for that!
Cloudreqdy isn't on pixelslate
Pixel slate isn't cloudready
Pixel doesn't even come close ...
What is pixel slate wallpaper?
I felt that your summary at the end was really rather useless. Also, generally when comparing two devices it is usually to determine which one is better, while each person is going to have their own opinion, most people want to hear a recommendation or a choice of which is better from the video, you just dropped a drawback of the Pixel Slate and ended the video.
Shut up isheep
The shot at 0:33 is exactly why I use an iPad Pro. All of these 2 in 1s are too damn skinny and are much worse for reading sheet music in portrait. I obviously know that most people don’t care about that but I need my tablet to be the best possible sheet music reader and the 12.9 iPad Pro is by far the best.
You compared an entry level spec slate to the iPad pro. Lol, you can't just do unfair vs videos because you're on a budget.
I got the Slate for $450 with pen and keyboard. I can't complain now it's a great price for what you get. It mainly serves as my TV, TH-cam, Netfix, Twitch, Web browsing machine and pretty zippy for those tasks. I dont need a super powerful one since I dont edit nor play games on it. ChromeOS runs linux now too so its a pretty nice addition.
Ive been toying with the idea of only working with a tablet instead of paper and pens (as a student). I would like to see a comparison of all 3 platforms :)
Jon Son I have gone through most of my university studies with a ups Pro and when you have learned to use ios it is a fantastic tool, i highly recommend it! :)
Jon Son get a Surface Pro. You may run into classes that require certain software that will almost always be on Windows. You can also swap the tips out of the pen for a better feel.
Jon Son absolutely do not get a surface pro, as students our income is usually shit. Surface pros fail, I know this personally from the two I have owned. They are a waste of money. If you want windows, just get a laptop but absolutely stay farrrrrrrrrr away from Microsoft’s surface line. I also have personal experience with the IPad Pro. The i pad won’t fail on you, it will remain stable and it will last you a long time. It is the perfect device for notes and textbooks, it’s actually amazing once you get everything set up!! Depending on your major, it just won’t cut it for everything. If you are in a liberal arts major, and excel isn’t a biggy, then the iPad will suit you all the way through college. If you need excel a lot, and you are doing coding I would recommend getting a laptop as there isn’t a good alternative to the iPad that gives you a great excel experience with enough juice for coding. Also, the battery on the iPad when only used for school and class will last you days. If you already have a laptop, or desktop with windows, or apples OS then absolutely get the iPad as if you do possibly come across something you can’t do, then you can just do it on you desktop or laptop.
Get an iPad and a regular laptop. Just don’t get the new iPad Pro so you can have money left for a laptop. If you can’t, then just get a laptop, unless you like to draw a lot.
I really don’t like tablets with flip up keyboards. Rather just use a regular laptop.
You forgot that you can run Linux applications on chrome os too.
yes, but it is still in beta... not everything works or works smooth.
@@alexd3411 but it runs. Meanwhile iPad is stuck on mobile apps 😂
@@fightnight14
Since when is Photoshop a mobile app?
@@adeetard2545 It is still a crippled version lmfao. And there's mobile PS if you missed that. The iPad is just a overpowered candy crush device, nothing more.
@@exisTxD
The only reason that you can call out crippled people/things is because you already are.
You missed to mention the 120Hz display. You missed that the Apple Pencil sticks to the iPad via magnets and charges wirelessly while beeing on the side of the iPad.
Even if you hate Apple: The Slate is significantly slower than the iPad. Even if the Slate is fully speced. You. can't really deny that.
Also to all those people complainig about iOS and how it isn't a desktop-grade OS: chromeOS isn't that useful in that aspect either. ChromeOS can run Android-Apps, yes. Does it run full Photoshop tho? Or any other major programs that you would expect on a desktop-grade operating-system? No, it doesn't.
MW, your one of the very few that did a Slate review with the m3. During your usage, have you noticed any slowdown with web browsing on the m3 processor?
The 599 pixel slate it’s 32 GB not 64
I think you needed to include more personal experiences, it mostly felt like you were just spouting specs. Also, some sort of final conclusion or recommendation about which one you'd recommend, who would suit which service etc would have been useful.
There is no need to compare any tablet with iPad Pro 2018, we ALL know that we will not pick any other tablet except the iPad PRO! lol
Unless its a Surface.
RealSupaHotFireVEVO - The Surface Pro is a great laptop that also has a touch screen. You need the keyboard or it’s terrible. The iPad Pro is much better as a tablet when you use only touch inputs.
+Rob Smith I heavily disagree. The Surface is made to be a tablet and it works as a tablet, the keyboard is just one of its accessories, exactly like the iPad. I mean you honestly cannot be comparing iOS to Windows 10, are you?
RealSupaHotFireVEVO - I’m sorry but I heavily disagree. I had every intention to buy a Surface Pro this year but it just doesn’t function nearly as well as an iPad as a touch only device. Every single thing you do on an iPad is designed for touch input. You can’t say that for the Surface. For my personal needs the 12.9 iPad is much better. I’m a professional musician and I keep 1000s of pages of sheet music on my iPad. The Surface is skinnier in portrait mode and isn’t nearly as good for reading music. The camera is better on the iPad and I often use it to scan new sheet music. I use the Pencil to mark up sheet music in ForScore. The iPad has Bluetooth 5.0 and the Surface has 4. I need the lowest latency possible when using a Bluetooth speaker. Windows is obviously more capable than iOS and the Surface Pro could likely replace my MacBook... but it can’t replace my iPad.
RealSupaHotFireVEVO - On the flipside, if I didn’t already have a laptop and I absolutely needed one device to be my laptop and tablet, I would probably deal with the compromises and get a Surface.
Thanks for this video, I was waiting for this comparison.. I’m going with the iPad Pro
5 microphones on the iPad btw.
Scott Opper 62 actually.
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Mac, pretty sure he is joking yo.
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Has the slate improved in the software department? Debating between these 2 now that google dropped the price on the slate. Btw I have a pixel phone and am not sure how well it plays with the iPad
I think a comparison between these and the surface pro is a great idea!
Surface pro isn't comparable to these simple os tablets
The Surface Pro is more of a laptop that has a tablet form factor and tablet abilities. The iPad is a tablet with some laptop abilities. The Pixel slate is just a second rate Pixelbook, which itself is an overpriced chrome book.
Google is terrible with designs. Terrible!
that pub g mobile lag on the slate though lmao
None of them. Surface a real computer that can run legacy software with a full OS. Besides it costs the same and you get a real computer.
jennifergala Surface = laptop replacement. iPad = tablet replacement. It depends on what you want.
You can't compare an M-processor to the A12 chip. Even the I7 isn't a fair comparison. But if you went to the I5 or the I7, you'll get better mutli app performance. I have the I5 and it works just fine, but still no comparison to my iPad Pro 11inch. I have had the Pixelbook with an I5 processor and it lags a lot less than my MacBook Pro 13 (2017 edition).
Lags because of it's OS. The MacBook has some power consuming applications like the FCPX. And the Pixelbook was just a desktop browser in addition to Android apps. And it also lags when multitasking whereas the MacBooks don't.
There’s 4 microphone on the iPad Pro. You forgot the one on the screen.
Of course the processor will be faster as is an arm based processor, chrome os runs in a x64 platform , meaning you can run full programs on it instructions will run different.
These videos are so informative, thanks!!
Looks nice, are we able to side load apps on chrome os like we can with Android?
watching from a pixel slate on update 85 ... Loving it
I hope you've mentioned the 120hz display of iPad Pro vs 20hz of Slate😂. One of the biggest selling point of iPad Pro is it's display. Google already halt production of the Slate because of poor sale.
Damn why didn't you use I5 variant. It would have price matched better. I also really think it should be the top tiers of both devices no matter the price difference the chips are too far apart in performance.
If you're in the market for a new tablet, wait for the Wi-Fi 6 devices to come out starting next year.
If you get the i5 chromeos you'll have no sluggishness and will more easily match the iPad multitasking. This is what I have on my pixel book. And I've yet to bog it down
So which do you prefer?
YESSSSSS WE NEEEEDDDD THAT THREEEEE WAAYYYY COMPARISONNNNNNN
Btw you forgot the hidden iPad feature.
It can only be folded in half once. Then you'll just need to buy a new one.
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Should have compared products that are the same price. Never understand Apples to oranges! I5 slate vs iPad to make it close
The slate is a crappy Chromebook but you really cannot and should not compare the experience between iOS and ChromeOS. ChromeOS is more akin to a desktop with better file management, more user options and DESKTOP browser support. The Android apps (where the geekbench test was run) runs in a container and so are really throttled. They are more there for additional productivity functionality. The iPad has its entire amazing app ecosystem and the best chip out there (A12) but it does not give you pc-like experience at all. So really ... We shouldn't compare the two. That being said, Google is really going against the entire point of Chromebooks by launching something that overpriced.
This is a wrong comparison man.. you should compare the slate with the fire tablet 7. I bet the fire tablet wins
why did you use m3 processor for a total of 1100$? you could've used an i5 processor which costs 1300. That would be closer to ipad pro in terms of cost and performance........
They're m5 and m7 processors. Intel just changed the names to i5 and i7 for marketing purposes due to bad sales because m5 and m7 sound weak. Either way, all 3 options would be slower but not slower at the same time. Different CPU architectures.
Ipads blow this Chrome shit
Definitely lmao
Are you saying iPads suck chromes dick?
Yes, please. Compare the Surface Pro 6 to these 2.
It's a little odd that you start with a term and a definition which includes 'usually' an attachable keyboard and trackpad and then name niche leader as the ipad - which notoriously has no trackpad or support for a cursor at all.
Ultimately this was nothing but a spec sheet comparison of benchmark outcomes. interestingly you start by pointing out that the Pixel has a technically superior screen but then go on to say it does not matter in use. Then you take most of the video to say the ipad is faster in benchmarks but make little comment as to how that presents itself in actual use. Namely - how meaningful is it actually when I'm just surfing the web or writing a document. You do mention the ipad seems to hold up better in practical use while running a video but also mention the many apps it's also running in the background. What does that mean? What apps and what is it doing with them in the background. If it's rendering video back there or something OK. If it just has an app in a parked state then so what...
Finally you completely fail to mention that along with that trackpad and cursor you get a full blown desktop style interface from the pixel in docked configuration. Meaning fully floating and resizable windows and very mature external monitor support. The latest ipad pro has only basic external monitor cloning.
Don't get me wrong the ipad pro is an impressive piece of hardware and for that matter iOS has a lot of great features too. But if we are talking about using it as a laptop then it simply doesn't do what the pixel does.
Frankly I think Slate is a pretty good first gen unit compared to the polish of the ipad pro which is the product of multiple generations of heaps of attention by Apple. Not that this contrast means much to what a person might choose.
To me it's pretty simple. If I want to do anything with music then it's definitely the ipad. If I want to have an actual computer experience with a cursor and full browser and run an external monitor if I want then it's definitely the pixels. If I want multi user support then it's definitely the pixel. In between there is lots of room for personal choice and familiarity and perhaps specific knowledge of specific apps and what they might do.
Lastly I think leaving anything about Linux out is pretty dismissive. The usual toss off comment about Windows being 'more' or 'better' or 'full fledged' or whatever is just sloppy and vague and at this point a worn and somewhat meaningless cliche. If you think Windows is more capable then say exactly why. Exactly what apps you run or feel most people run that Windows does and Chrome OS does not. There are certainly some to choose from. Some people will care about that. Many won't. It's like saying a truck is more fully featured than small two door car. Yes. Does that mean everyone should just buy a truck? Don't be silly.
Also at 7:35 when you put the specs of the Pixel Slate up on screen you show 128GB memory but I think it must be 64GB if it's the m3.
well... this is disgusting but lets not forget that apple is marketing a desktop class performance and console quality but c'mon intel to lose in single core while having just 2 cores with hyper threading and higher frequency and still not even close 3900 vs 5000
This is just the beginning
The pixel slate wants to be more of a laptop and the ipad pro wants to be more of a tablet.
There is no tablet other than the iPad for one simple reason: Apps.
You can cram as much features as you want behind a touch screen, but with no tablet optimized software, it is completely worthless as a tablet. Could be a horrible laptop with good pen support (MS Surface), but not a tablet. Could be a horrible everything (Whatever Google makes), definitely not a tablet.
Where I'm from apple is a joke cause when new apple products come out I cant go to my store to get any products on day 1 it's on backorder for months Samsung everything they come out with you can buy on day 1 that's the only thing apple needs to work on awesome review btw
Yep, do a three-way, well comparison anyways
can the iPad be a full desktop computer? (NO)
I'm pretty sure the pixel slate can become a full Chromebook experience. which in my opinion is more useful than a tablet only!
If you want a nice chrome book with a touch screen, just get a pixel book. They’re just trying to make a less expensive and inadvertently worse pixel book. But if you buy anything less than the i5 (and even that is slow and laggy occasionally) it doesn’t make sense, and it that point you’re spending 1k anyway, so you may as well get it with a keyboard included.
anyone know what brand usb hub he is using at 3:30 or really anyone that sits flush with the device no wires.
its like comparing a supercomputer to a rock
Here we have Apple's best setup vs Google's second worst setup. Thanks for unfair comparison.
Thank you for the great video.
I don't understand, why did google use intel CPU's instead of snapdragon 845
To run linux applications.
The lag from the Pixel Slate is real.
10:38 The iPad Pro is the *most fastest* ultra tablet on the market right now.
No
Inter core i5 version would be better comparison with closer to ipad pro price level
Yes pls do a video comparing all 3
Do a three way
Hey can you do a revisit of this comparison please
IMO sadly I cant say any OS does mobile Tablet right. Microsoft devices have a lot of problems, but great OS. Apple and Google offer great Tablets, but lack a Desktop mode.
If Apple would do a iPad MacOS Desktop Mode, I would run out and buy one. I'm no Apple Fanboy, my last Apple device was a iPhone 4, but the new iPad is so good!
Lagger Gandalf I think iPad needs it’s own system, or an iOS independent of iPhone’s iOS. Apple tested out touch control macOS years ago, and decided not to do so because of limitations.
IMO I think it may actually be a bad idea to run MacOS simply because the iPad Pro is at the end of the day a tablet, and so needs to run a tablet OS. I think the Pixel Slate isn't a good Tablet software wise because it runs chrome OS. Sure Chrome OS supports touch but because its not built around touch they UI is very laggy and not very intuitive. Same goes for Windows, its a desktop OS with touch support but because its not build with touch it falls behind the iPad. Apple should simply give us some desktop functions like proper file explorer, mouse support and etc... but still run IOS. And if possible make some sort of desktop version of some Apps like Adobe, Blender etc... for the IPad.
Linux kills BSD, and X64 kills ARM, so Pixel Slate kills iPad "Pro".
Good comparison
I want a comparison of these 3 and a Samsung Galaxy tab 4
surface - laptop
slate - laptop and tablet
ipad - tablet
i either wish ipad had more laptop functionality or the slate was better as both a laptop and a tablet instead o being half assed
Clearly it’s a biased video.. he failed to mention many key features of ipad.
Anything that doesn't fit in with The Apple Eco System, Compatability is a no-no for me however good it is.
Exactly. Apple doesn't play well with others.
Soooory how do you say your Name?
Play that back to back from the beginning...it sounds crazy 😜
Hey do you know ipad use mobile and called that for profesional
Ahmed said that it would be a good thing for me to do in order
Apple is a super awesome company. of course the iPad wins just like the iPhone wins against Android phones.that's why i use iOS
How do you need Intel shit on a tablet
Might as well get the Mac Book Air
The prob with the google tablet is that the tablet is lagging
if just compare of this 2 device, i will definitely choose iPad pro...not because of it is good....just slate more sucks..
It’s okay to admit the ipad is good you fucking pussy
Slate should start at $399 tbh. $599 is overpriced
Yeah
I think it should start at 299
The specs are bad
See how Google copied the macOS/iOS dock.
iPad is the best, no doubt!
Despite iPad pro's speed, it is useless considering it's marketed as a Professional device. The iOS is a joke of an OS.
hate to break it to u but
iOS is better than android
Android is trash
The iPad pro or this pixel have nothing on the surface pro 6
If your serious about work don’t get the iPad or the surface pro. Just get a damn laptop.
note apple slows down their hardware after about 24 months..the first ipad pro now runs slower than an 2018 ipad (you basic ipad) even though it's cpu is better...apple say it's for battery usage after 24 months.