Google Pixel Slate Review: half-baked
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- The Pixel Slate, Google’s first Chrome OS tablet. It should be able to do it all - run a full desktop web browser, Android apps, the works. It should be able to replace your computer and do things the Apple iPad Pro can't. The potential is there, but Dieter Bohn shows us why the bugs ruin the experience.
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What would it take for you to get a Chrome OS tablet?
It being cheaper tbh
Also, why didn't you guys mention Linux Apps?
The Verge dualbooting with iOS
they should have a separate api for chrome os apps and they should make it easy to port android apps to chrome apps. i think that will make it into a new mac os alternative.
A good note taking app (such as onenote) and a great collaboration with window suite apps. I use a surface, but I am a big google fan. If google can get close to windows 10 in terms of apps, I would use it.
If the iPad gets even more expensive than its already is
3:30 holy performance drop batman
So laggy, how can they even sell something like that.
@@JediBurrell for a price of 1.5k there shouldn't be any problem with performance not even a minor lag, if it was 400 or 300$ fine considering price this sort of performance could be over look for what its selling for but its not, so chrome slate isn't a great product.
Just like the first Pixel, Google likes to experiment a lot with their products. Evolving them during its life and having constant updates, I'm holding my money until the next itinerations but so far it looks promising.
Jedi Burrell for that price windows devices run pretty smooth and can run almost every app and OS if you want. Google NEED to understand their added value and work on it.
What he didn't mention is Its a review unit, they aren't out for sale.
@@JediBurrell o h, well that's kinda bad :p as it has an Intel CPU, you can probably run Linux distros and maybe an android X86 os? Or even windows? Right? I'd love an android os on it lol
Damn. That hurts. That lag though....how can Google roll out a product with that software??
Victor Lazo i mean, it’s google we’re talking about here
It isn't even the software, the software is fine
(Source: I use ChromeOS)
This is merely just what happens with a mediocre processor powering that high res display lol
imo Google doesn't care about the software issues as long as products keep selling...but they do keep improving with time. Just your hardware doesn't support the changes later. So you buy a new product in few years.
@@clocked0 i5 is mediocre? Are you kidding?
@@MrNxtworld So is i7, depends on the specific processor. Understand that i5 is an umbrella term and marketing jargon.
Source: I have an i5 6200U, which is a mediocre processor at best. However there are excellent i5 processors just as there are excellent i3s, it depends on the actual specific processor model used
Chromebooks costing a $1,000 is just absurd.
The biggest advantage is that’s it’s like a smartphone os and doesn’t have viruses like windows does
@Asbjørn Exactly! I've thought the same when I was shopping for a laptop.
@@bryanmiller476 come on, it's not like we're in the 90's... Viruses are not that common anymore.
Those prices are insane!
iOS devices costing that much is absurd
Plus the keyboard!
Awesome and fair as ever Dieter.
The Surface Go absolutely murders this without even trying. Mind the price!!
eh, it's subjective.
But for $349
@shawn newton Boxing that's more on Google chrome than it is on the surface go, I think. Chrome tends to run like garbage on lower end hardware
The surface go is actually garbage though. It can't even run most apps since it has to go through the windows store. Android Google Play Store > Windows Store. Lol.
@@vt_near You can run programs outside of the Microsoft Store, just like a laptop.
Google may be delusional with those prices.
Surprised there was no mention of the Surface Pro 6 running a full desktop operating system, with file manager, full desktop browser, support for touch, detachable keyboard, full Office suite.
Also, why does nobody mention the iPad Pro doesn't support mouse input?!
3:30 performance of the slate in 2 seconds
Jedi Burrell the ipad doesnt lag when switching apps and thats a fact
Jedi Burrell, yes, it does. When I buy a device for $1200, I plan to be productive which means MULTITASKING a lot. Also, you mistake animation with awful UX
Jedi Burrell no you can’t
@@JediBurrell "I can make the ipad lag too" He wasn't trying to make the slate lag, it just did.
Jedi Burrell Dude I get you probably can. But this is an important feature many people use. And that too you're paying a lot for it. I'm guessing you may be able to make the iPad Pro lag in some cases but definitely not where it's important and it would still be hard to find such a bad issue nevertheless. Plus we're talking about Google here so they really did fail with tho product here
When I as a consumer look at the 2in1 market, the only one that makes sense to me is the Surface Pro.. It is the only thing that can replace my laptop.. The iPad might be stupid powerful but does not give me file system access.. And this, well I don't even want to get started.. And no the lack of USB C on the Surface Pro is just nitpicking..
I'd honestly tell you, as a consumer, to wait a year for the redesigned surface pros
Spot on bro
Look again. HP Sceptre X360 4k is half the price of the surface, just as powerful. Real 4k display too.
@@shadowblack1987 That is a lovely device, but not an actual 2in1 where the screen can be detached
@@shadowblack1987 "HP"
Google - "We're making Chrome OS, and we're making it because Laptops should be cheap and affordable. Should be cheaper than Windows Tablets.
We're also going to price it at an even 1000$."
*How could you not fit a headphone jack in that?!*
Knäckebrot same as iPad I suppose 😕
stupid trend nothing else.
They interviewed a google worker, he said that they expected that everyone else was using bluetooth (I'm paraphrasing)
(Edit: It's in an interview video they did a while back)
Let the headphone jack die. Jeez!
Is it in your way?
The point of a chromebook is that they are cheap. What’s the point of a $1000 Chromebook? I can just get a real computer like a Mac or Windows computer with that money.
And it will preform better than 3:30
Id rather run chromeos than windows 10, personnally.
And I like Mac OS, but apple prices are even more ridiculous than the pixel slate's price.
I mean, once you start adding an Intel processor and higher ram, the price makes sense for a 2 in 1. The software itself just needs massive improvement.
@@christapia6733 I guess but the lowest model had a celeron didn't it? My laptop was 550$ and had an i5 with dedicated graphics.
@@KarlDag but they sell real laptops
You really are the best reviewer out there. Absolutely love your reviews.
I agree. Google needs to stop just tacking on features left and right and making the stable channel feel like a developer channel. It's time for them to make it insanely stable and reliable, and have ChromeOS grow up. It's actually ready to.
So good he literally says the same thing mkbhd did in the beginning of his pixel book review
This thing is gonna hella flop
Google probably knows it'll flop but they made it anyway lmao
funny man they want the world to say “at least you tried”
They always do tbh.
are you from california
I can't tolerate those laggy animations 3:30 !! This is absolute mess for a $1000 device, can't believe people are actually buying this in it's current form. WTF
I bought one in 2023 for $200ish on Ebay. Since Google extended the support date, it was so worth! Love this device. We take notes on Google Keep and it's pretty sweet.
better than the unbox therapy review
5:43 I love that sequence of reactions:
-oh no
-AHA
-W00P W00P
That's a problem with choice of processor also because most of Android apps are not for x86 intel processor. World needs a good powerful desktop class ARM chip that can power this kind of devices. That's the future. It's holding back by intel. They're not making good performing chips for equivalent apple or snapdragons power usage.
Hi Dieter, your question of whats a computer has really intrigued me - and even more so, how are we going to use them in the future has intrigued me further. My Windows computer is dying and I am seriously thinking of moving to ChromeOS. I really want to make the switch away from Windows, but I am waiting for that very good in-between. I liked the verge review on the Yoga Book and the video you did "Intel Doubled Down", they may not be necessarily related, but you are asking interesting questions no one else seems to be asking. Keep these "challenging what is a computer" videos going and I know I will look on.
Little harsh review but I agree: that lag is unwatchable.
That lag reminded me of Motorola Zoom from the dawn of tablets.
If Google is really serious about the pixel devices, they need to fire the team and get new people in who actually have experience. The pixel line up is just a joke now.
My Pixel 2 is still killing it, but the 3 and this have been just dissapointments. Especially the price tags.
Victor Almanzar The pixel 3 phones are hindered with problems and the notch looks bad on the xl model.
If Google wants this 2 in 1 tablet to succeed they need get developers to make the tablet ready and actually pay attention to the software.
@@SrinivasRajkumar agreed
Pixel 3 user here. Bought it on 40% discount to the local Carphone Warehouse and no issues except the Pie battery draining so far. Also I love the small Pixel design but that's subjective. I'm sure I'll get that slate on discount for 600$ with the keyboard for free and the animation fixed in a couple of months. And I'm sure next iteration will be better.
This year's Pixel lineup is victim of bad decisions and bad situations at Google, but the software is copying really fast and I don't have RAM issues (even if it's a manage,entire bug which Google is still working on for a fix).
Yeah, lots of problems...but if you look at Noughat, iOS11, iOS10, Marshmallow, Sierra, High Sierra, Leopard, Windows Phone 7/8/10, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 10 latest update...those are all half-baked OSes and people are not raging at them as they're doing on Google...not even reviewers. I am writing from an iPad with iOS12 and the more I use Pie and iOS I prefer Pie because iOS has much more issues with the stuff I use now.
I regret the lack of a cheap, ARM based Chromebook...but for 999$ I prefer a product which doesn't bend in my backpack nor gets fire while using Excel...
as little as 600$...
Chris_SiXtY_noScope for only a 32gb model lol
Bryan Miller 32gbs + 150gbs of cloud storage i have a Chromebook with only 8gbs in 2018 and i have no problems
A $200-250 Chromebook, while plasticky, works just fine for what it is: a web browser with a keyboard (opening up productivity apps like Google Docs and web-based Microsoft Office). Chrome OS is and probably will always be only the Google Chrome web browser. Without a ground-up rethink, adding other stuff like Android apps just shows how Chrome OS was never designed to be anything other than the Chrome web browser.
@@JediBurrell The janky implementation of everything else ,except the browser, as demonstrated in this review, proves my point.
@@JediBurrell he's also forgetting pixelbook
@@JediBurrell 3:30 is that an app
After Joshua Topolsky Dieter Bohn is the only guy on “the Verge” who does not biased great reviews about Android and Google stuff. Once again, good review!
Soooo should I buy this or a laptop?
Laptop.
Surface Pro
Go for laptop
Depends on your particular needs
Going on 8 years with Chrome OS never looked back - as for the Slate, think I'll wait and see what Google releases next year. Still a proud owner of the Chromebook Pixel LS and Pixelbook.
Surface beats both of them
@shawn newton Boxing windows
@shawn newton Boxing there are better and cheaper android tablets available
@shawn newton Boxing chrome os is great but this pixel slate is not a good product
Spending this much for a chrome os tablet is not worth
@@down4665 I agree. Chrome OS is fine but the Pixel Slate isn't. I'd rather get a HP Chromebook X2.
I own an Asus C302 Chromebook, the reason I have it. I was tired of Android tablets but didn't want a windows laptop something middle of the road that would still allow me to use android apps when I need it but also be a bit more of a desktop experience when I wanted it. So far been great I find it strange that the slate is so laggy yet mine is running like butter.
The only time I would say to anyone to buy a chromebook is A) If it's cheap and B) You don't expect it to replace your computer.
Waiting for the Pixel Lite Launch
I have never heard anyone say that they are unhappy with their Pixelbook, myself included. If you were looking to buy the Slate, don't, and go get a Pixelbook. You will be happy with your purchase.
Not if you're a pretty serious photographer.
@@glenbarrington2634 That's when you need a real laptop.
@@arress2052 My point, exactly!
@@glenbarrington2634 A Pixelbook can do about 90% of what you want to do, though. It's really full Photoshop that you're missing but it's good with a lot of other day to day items.
What no Beatmaker/Cubasis/Beathawk/Tardigrain/Phosphor/D1/Sampletank/SynthmasterOne/iSEM/Redshrike/Ruismaker/Loopfield/Zeeon/Gliderverb/SynthOne/Impactor/Fuguemachine/Minimoog/Samplr/Patterning/Sunrizer/Poison/Gadget/Wavestation/Gestrument/Turnado/Fabfilter on the Pixel Slate? Bummer!!
It has FL studio... Go do all your music creation in that
Dieter was waiting for the Reviews to this to come out and appreciate your advice on the all you just reviewed .Thanks so much Deb 👍✌
Too many floppy flapps
As a student and a Google products' die-hard the only thing that stops me from buying a pixelbook or a slate is that some apps or programs for specific tasks (like stata or R-studio for statistics) are not compatible with chrome OS. I hope that Google reaches for developers so that these kind of programs are available on their platform.
no offense but Surface is better
@shawn newton Boxing No Scrivener, No ACDSee Photo studio. Chrome (and Android, for that matter) is seriously lacking in photo apps for grown-up photographers. Nothing I need to use is compatible with CrossOver.
shawn newton Boxing no offense but your case isn’t ours
As of ChromeOS 73 you can access external storage in Android and Linux apps. Working, not an issue.
Hp pavilion 360 for $650 a tablet and laptop with a real OS.
I thought he would just complain about not being able to use this on your lap. Much of the video showed it on Laps. But, it was actually a really accurate review. I just bought one for half price with free keyboard and pen. Would 100% return it if it had not been half price. Lags, shut off. But I like the screen and speakers and large size. Still undecided. What's a better choice guys and gals?
We want an iPad vs slate comparison
@David Ruddle except that even in the video he said that chrome os can do more than apple os
I was very disappointed Google didn't release an upgrade of the Pixelbook. I concur very much with the points you make in the video. I'm not much interested in the tablet functionality but I really need something I can use on my lap with a keyboard, good browser capability and and linux compatibility for development work. I would like to ditch my ageing macbook pro, a Windows machine isn't suitable. A Pixelbook upgrade would have nailed it but I'm thinking now the only option now is another Macbook or do I hold out a bit longer an hope will Google deliver on the Pixelbook?
At sale price, why rule out the original halo device ie Pixelbook, it`s hard to see how it can be improved.
Pixelbook every two years
@@harpocrates302 I'm still dependant on a couple Windows / Mac only CAD programs so I was also hoping for the windows compatibility that is being rumored so I can run a VM. Other than that thin-bezels, higher screen res and longer battery life would be nice.
Nowhere near iPad.. u hv million apps in ipad too.. and that animation is as laggy as it could be.. enjoy ur slate..
Bruh, it runs Android apps. In fact it has Google play.
So where's the file manager?
Android and Linux. It will only get better in time. iOS is iOS, freaking mobile iPhone OS in a tablet lol
fightnight14 lol no. Android is officially dead on tablet, and it can only get worse over time.
@@supertigerman013 I'm referring to ChromeOS it runs both Android and Linux apps
On my windows laptop, I only use Chrome, IDEs for coding, and a few games. I like what Google is doing with ChromeOS and how they make everything online first. I can use any computer with a browser and an internet connection for my work, and I'll have all my stuff there!
I don't any other companies do it so well. Online IDEs aren't that bad either, but I desktop ones still have way more features.
That lag though!!😮
Great review, thank you for being critical while also pointing out the pros of it all, wish more reviewers had this constructive criticism mindset
Lol i was wondering only today if the Verge had decided the Pixel slate wasnt even worth reviewing 😂
Yeah figured :)
3:32 sweet lord
The iPad is infinitely better
Edit: thanks for all the likes guys! Never got so many before.
And the surface even better
SFS Intel depends on what you want, don’t be so biased lmao,
In some aspects. Performance isn't everything. I would rather but iPad though
@@IntelTV Well it depends on your ideology of tech. Sure yes you can technically get Cinema 4d, Octane, After Effects, etc... but they run terribly and aren't even worth using but on iPad they have a slightly smaller library but all of that library runs amazing and is beautifully optimized.
Google should just release an Android tablet with at least a Full HD+ IPS LCD display, Flagship Snapdragon processor and RAM, Stereo Speakers on either side, 64/128 GB storage and a decent camera nothing fancy with wifi and cellular option and price it right. They used to design good android tablets like nexus 7 and nexus 7 2013.
lag comes included with every google's product take that!
We remove 3.5 jack because we want to copy apple trends, but what make our product different is, we also make the bluetooth always disconnect, so the only way you can hear music or watching a movie is by loudspeaker. Cool isn't it?
Never pay $999 for a web browser
Jash Modi you are super ignorant to what chrome OS is. It runs Linux and android apps natively now.
7:08 "Just, the thing is, I gotta admit, THIS IS WAY LESS FUN TO USE." What a summary. Eight and a half minute video in one sentence.
I like the tabs4
Me too
It's like the perfect 2018 tablet would be a pixel slate that can run iPad apps. 2 USB c ports that can actually do USB things and a real web browser.
It lagged SO MUCH when Dieter tried to to miltiwindow. That's a shame.
I remember falling in love with The Verge years back because of how clean and professional their reviews were, but stepped away because of how heavy the apple bias was for awhile. I have to say, all of the "new" host at The Verge have been amazing and it has brought me back as a subscriber. It was a breath of fresh air after I watched Dieter for the first time and I'm so glad he joined the team as well as everyone else. Excellent review. Keep up the great work.
3:30 I love android lag.
It's chrome os not android.
*Dieter dancing sillily to the Disco*
Ah. Such Dieter.
Also it's way less powerful than ipad pro
I'm not saying the ipad is great. Just pointing out a fact
Because that was cpu designed by apple. Google has to relay on intel...
@dddk sa Yes and yes. Linux apps.
@dddk sa Did I claim it was good? No. But some Linux video editors, such as Open Shot, will definitely get the job done unless you are a dedicated professional (by that I mean actual professionals - not TH-camrs). I just said the answer to your question is 'yes'. There is also a video editor selection on Android, if you want something more lightweight.
And wow, thanks for picking out literally the only Chrome OS weakness. Windows and nay iOS have substantially more weaknesses than Chrome OS, including lack of social networks such as Instagram and Messenger on the former and virtually all professional apps (MATLAB, etc) on the latter.
@@petarprokopenko645 apple relys on intel for their laptops
Hey Dieter, can you make a video showcasing Linux apps on the Pixel Slate? Love your videos, keep it up the standout work.
Just buy a laptop. Finish!
This is an EXCELLENT and HONEST review. Well done. I personally can do 100% of my work on Chrome OS. I have this HP Chromebook X2 since almost 2 months and I really like it. I was thinking to "upgrade" to the pixel slate but your review holds me back a bit. Definitely I won't take the Google keyboard, and I'm quite disappointed by the laggings you experience on tablet mode. I don't have that on my HP. I think I'm going to wait a little longer and see how Google fixes all these bugs over the next months. Thanks again for this great work
Just buy the $300 iPad and you'll be happy!
My favorite reviewer on The Verge. Keep the good job.
Here's what it would take me to consider a full chrome OS tablet... make it run Windows.
EndermanOrea or don't cause a 200$ Chrome OS laptop Will run miles vs. a 400$ Windows laptop
@@LzysGraphics it was a joke. Whooooooosh.
EndermanOrea umm actually. You want to take a step back and read that from another point of view? First of all your claim is a legitimate thing a ton of people say. Second, lmao you do know I can't read your body language over a screen right? Please make your sarcastic remarks a bit more clear buddy. You can either make it blunt or frank or add a ton of words like but but...
I'm so glad you got Bluetooth issues. My old Asus chromebook flip had terrible Bluetooth issues. If Google is serious about removing the headphone jack, they need to get serious about making Bluetooth work.
Another Flop from Google... Yayyyy .
Google are definitely right about one thing though. 2-in-1s and detachables are the future of computing. One where you can comfortably interact with the OS using a finger, a mouse, a keyboard, or a pen. One of the few areas where Apple is lagging behind Google and Microsoft imo. At the very least MacBooks should get touch screen displays.
iPad ---- Great Tablet, not so good laptop
Surface Pro----- Great laptop not so good tablet
Slate ----- Good for nothing....
This looks scary right now. Chrome OS doesn't seem to be where it should be performance wise and with prices like that you'd expect your device to be buttery smooth. I recently picked up the 2016 Samsung Tab A (with s-pen cause I pretend I'm an artist), payed $250 after getting a case for it and couldn't be happier. Price, size, screen, performance it's all there for doing digital art and media consumption.
I think Google should stick to Android and as for laptops Windows is best !
You misspelled MacOS, whoops
LINUX!
I’m disappointed at Windows honestly. Might find myself switching to an iPad as the main device while using my laptop as a secondary backup.
All that chrome OS stuff we can actually do with our smartphone quite conveniently.. but can't do laptop stuff on those tablets for sure!
Google = Apple + horrendous execution
Love your reviews man. Waiting for surface pro 6 review.
Just another flop chrome/android tablet. Ipads rule tue tablet game
Watch the whole video. He uses a Pixelbook and admitted that ChromeOS does more than an iPad can
The iPad can never best the surface.
I would need it focused on being a big phone for niche uses (note taking, video consumption, etc) at a low price point.
I honestly think the Pixel Slate, like the Pixelbook, is supposed to be a push to OEMs to do more with Google's software. And the Pixelbook was absolutely successful at this!
Chromebooks were cheap things that were better than Windows laptops at their minute price points before the Pixelbook. Now, you have a range of premium ChromeOS 2-in-1s!
The Pixel Slate feels like the same thing, but for detachables!
iPad pro 2018 is a more polished tablet in terms of UX, while the Pixel slate tries to bridge the functionality gap between the iPad pro 2018 and Microsoft Surface 6 Pro. The iPad pro is the best ARM-based tablet, Surface pro 6 is the best X86-based tablet while the Pixel slate is on the fence.
Does an external display work? How about USB-C headphones? Does it charge through either port?
Great review, but too many points missed...
Great review as always, Dieter!
I just love your videos guys! you do such an amazing job!
Google: “Yeah, sure, we could come up with a name for our display that’s sillier than “Liquid Retina””
Thanks for the review. I was really tempted to buy a Pixel Slate, but now not so much. It might be better to wait and see what Google launches next year. Just like the pixel phone, I waited and got the pixel 2 phone. Hopefully next year there's a new slate 2 and and a new pixel 4 phone.
Hello Dieter, You ask at the end of your Video, what would make me use a Chrome OS tablet. The short answer is Software, not hardware. The chrome OS is a device made for people that have simply given up their privacy to google. I want to actually own the device in my hands that I have (then) paid over a thousand dollars for. It is rather scary that this big company that literaly lives off of selling me to advertisers is not disclosing how their operating system works and what it does. An operating system has the job of managing the computing recources of the underlying system, not spy on me. And when that changes back to what it once was (and probably will never return to) ill think of getting a chome os laptop, even if some of the functionality offered is rather fantastic.
What will you say is the best tablet to get from 2018. I want something I can use as a tablet most of the time to take notes in class, reply emails, edit photos maybe even video, submit assignments last minute, and all that good stuff. But, something that doesn't feel laggy and inconvenient.
Basically not a tablet to replace my computer but one to help me be more productive.
What a letdown, I really don’t think the Pixel Slate and Chrome OS can match the breadth and selection of apps and great software experiences available on the iPad Pro. Keep trying Google, you’ll get it right someday!
This review needs to be updated in 2020
I’m loving my 11in iPad Pro
Not a single mention of Linux app support via Project Crostini. Crostini is on stable channel now, so you should have mentioned and demoed it.
Honestly, I was quite excited for this tablet, but I can't think of why this is any better than the Pixelbook? They can do the same things and the pixelbook has a nicer design
I think for the first time ever when comparing another tablet to an iPad, it isn't black and white. iPad certainly has better performance, but the pixel slate has an actual OS meant for computers.
Pixel 3 owner. Just bought a iPad pro! Thanks for the email about your new product Google
I really wish Google would go back and making the Chromebook Pixel. A refreshed Chromebook Pixel 2019 edition would be amazing! They should stop trying to make hybrid devices and focus on one thing very well.
This Pixel deserves an updated review. Chrome OS has updated substantially and the price has gone down significantly.
Computer is any hardware where you can manage Drives, Files, Apps and/or Programs and connected Devices IMHO.
E.G.: Like a Mac Mini, you don't need any device, even a display, if you can connect any one to it, but it's mandatory manage your files and programs. So iPad Pro isn't a full computer yet, but it's close.
this is why apple reigns supreme. It's been years that Microsoft and Google have had the time to fix lag and crash bugs, and they never do so. Apple on the other hand focuses on user experience. It shows, it saves times and makes life easier.