BMW E30 M3 real-world review
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- BMW E30 M3, Roberto Ravaglia edition on road review. Having owned one of these in the nineties, this one brought back lots of memories.
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This is a M3 Cecotto, Edition Ravaglia. Only 25 produced, 23 in Red, 2 in Silver. This car is one out of two!
Michael Wollenschein 480 johnny cecotto editions and 25 Roberto Ravaglia editions.
+Michael wollenschein +Tjeerd Gerritsen At 10.21 in this vid he shows a plaque inside the car showing this car is number 65 of 505 Roberto Ravaglia produced, as I understand it.
Hi Tonyo, this car is 65 of of a larger run of 505 special editions at the time, only a small number of the 505 were actually Roberto Ravaglias M3s.
DID YOU GIVE UP TRAINSPOTTING?
No, there's more than enough time for both! Also, if you listen to the video Harry covers this!
Harry is my favorite car reviewer on TH-cam! Like if you agree
... and he is actually driving/using them. Not a lot of of people would take a Ferrari Testarossa to French and carry a Boat Engine in the front back home. ;)
T R I 2nd that opinion 👍
he the new saabkyle and ain't a bougie bitch like doug demuro
root how is doug boujee
Its all about quality not quantity
FINALLY someone who goes into detail about the rear window/bootlid! Stuff like that is what sets Harrys Garage apart from the rest. Great video
I think the roof was lowered by a modest amount as well
Saw you in this as you left the WEC Silverstone race. Looked awesome in person!
Jimmy 😀
Harry's Garage....new episode...one second into the vid...already gave it a thumbs up!
After the Dakar bikes quick look and now this absolute beauty, this channel just smashed those supercar spotter/owner channels out the park.
Thanks Harry, absolute quality.
Sleepingdragon 1 - you mean you don't like videos with posh kids harping on about carbon, epic adventures , and daily drivers ? Me neither - Harry's videos are terrific
Ha Ha ,,, everything with the rich kids is either "insane, awesome or epic" I/m sick to death of them .
Sleepingdragon 1 I want to punch Schmee in the face. He's a super annoying guy.
Thing is, they're often anything but posh. No class.Just rich.
I love how he isn't too snobby to explain the purpose of a dogleg gearbox. Makes me feel like I'm with my dad
He’s a car expert but also a good teacher/story-teller. It’s a joy.
I LOVED the extra nerdy pieces of this review. I learned quite a bit about E30 M3s. Thanks Harry. Bloody great video, as always :)
BUT: Bleifrei means unleaded.
Lets just hope he actually USED unleaded because he seemed pretty sure he had the "leaded" non catalyst engine. He would have ruined the catalyst then. LOL. No problem, wasn't his to worry about .....
This car, as any 4-cylinder E30 coupe, is a true pleasure to have.
The light filled interior, lightweight design, everything is so light and enjoyable, honest simple engines.
Visibility is unmatched. Not possible these days.
this guy would make a really cool grandpa.
Yeah, a really cool grandpa but your mom wouldn't let you ride with him! Mom's tend to worry about grandpas that have too much fun with their cars... that's me! ;^)
Cool Dad*
oh my god yes
@@MrGaryGG48 true, my grandpa was a chopper pilot. Ironically, his grandson never ride a chopper 😭
Whenever Harry uploads a video I immediately stop what I'm doing to watch
Harry's commentary on life is just as good as his views on the car.
Was waiting for a BMW for a while. Great!
You often see these video on internet with Ferrari's, Porsche's, Lamborghini's ... and then a BMW E30 4-cylinder just next to it.
Stop using apostrophes for plurals, dumbass.
I put 100k miles on mine,wonderful sports car. But it requires valve adjustments every 8k miles that would cost between $800 to $1000 every time. The S14 motor is tough and if you don't abuse it will hold up quite well. I bought mine with 65k miles and when I sold it it had 165k and the engine ran perfectly. I kick myself 3 times daily for getting rid of it,a moment of insanity.
fw1421 50k car now
I kick myself 4times a day for these cars I sold in a moment of insanity. An Alfa Bertone and a Golf1 Gti.
Thanks for the info. Was considering one of these. I owned a Ducati 996SPS that required expensive valve adjustments every 5K miles. Loved the bike, but the expensive upkeep took some of the enjoyment out of the ownership experience. Never again.
you can see him enjoying and remembering all that crazy stuff he did in his original M3.. nice video
Harry the brake light cable is attached to the brake pedal on an E30, it can come loose and even if it comes loose for a split second the light comes up on the OBC. You just need to push the cable on firmly on the side of the brake pedal.
brake lights has to be checked before driving as they most important lights on the car, you push brake and light disapear if bulbs are working.
^^^ this
"Nibbles at the outsides of adhesion." That's gotta be my favourite comment of automotive journalism ever. :)
Mr. Harry always brings out that A-Grade work. no bells & whistles, no frills, no bs. just the real shit. rare nowadays.
and always leaves you w some new, unique info/knowledge/details every vid you wouldn't find elsewhere. ty
Very informative to hear somebody with such a wide range of experience with enthusiast cars give his opinion on my car (or at least my car's faster older brother).
There are not many cars in Harry's Garage that I have actually driven, but the E30 M3 is one of them. What a car! Thank you, Harry for bringing memories of perhaps the most beautiful handling and responsive car I can recall.
Mr Metcalfe geeking out about details is just a delight.
As the very proud owner of an E30 318is - this video makes me very happy...
harrycg95 you must be a very proud woman
harrycg95 M42 squad 👌
harrycg95 Gross.
Great car
@@drj2039 damn that made me laugh!
Do a video of E34 M5. It would be epic
I invited Harry to review mine a while back without a reply. I could do with another trip to the Cotswolds (I think that is where he is). I have just been there in my E34 M5 and it didn't miss a beat in over just over 400 miles at 25 MPG
Great video Harry, i remember when the E30 M3 was "cheap" how times have changed. I've heard rumours that swapping out the S14 for an S50 is a popular conversion on these because of the S14's rebuild costs and the S50 giving you that straight six smoothness with a lot more power, torque & less rebuild cost.
Almost bought one of these a couple of years ago, out of my price range now but you never know!! Love this era of cars, Own a 190e 2.5-16, a 993 and a 924S and its all about weight, they feel so small and nimble compared to modern sports cars. Even the 924S has the same power to weight ratio of my friends new Toyota gt86!
Great review Harry, you talk about your cars the way I do!!
The DTM airbox makes the 2.3 sound AMAZING! I’ve loved that car since 2004 when I found out about it. Picked up an 89 325i soon after and that began BMW daily drivers till this day. BMW M is amazing
Yep, takes the Cake & from someone who wedged a 3.2 M3 motor into an E30 plus owned a number of them, this was a magnificent episode. Harry, you actually are the best on reviewer out there. Thanks !!
Love these . Big doe now. I had the e30 tourer was a lovely car and left most things in thr dust. Csnt beat the older cars just feel different . That's why I still drive an 03 plate copper s ( r53) raw car lovebit
Last of the English gentry ... kudos to your reviews ... bravo Harry !!!
The way you smile as soon as you sit in the car... that's the best.
this might be the best video to ever happen in automotive reviewing youtube history
Underrated channel ! deserves a million+ subs
First time watching your videos, Harry. Big BMW fan and M3 (E46) owner. Loved the history lesson!! Greatest car content I found on TH-cam in years since I first saw Chris Harris.
Friend of mine is a bit of a BMW nut. He had one of those (Cecotto edition) and 7 series, M5s, M Coupé etc.
This is the best according to him and he always regretted selling it.
Finally! Great collection over all.
You do want a carbon airbox for the M3. It changes everything.
Always loved the Alpina B6S, which was the M3 with a 3.5 Alpina engine :)
I didn't learn anything new about the M3 because I've already read so much on it, however Harry is tops. He's the perfect gentleman and so engaging. Best reviewer out there and of course it's his voice as well.
It says "Bleifrei" which means unleaded
But with the red sticker, it's a non-cat car, so you could use leaded fuel as well.
Tor Aronsen No, the red sticker with Bleifrei Super on it meant ONLY unleaded. Why? Cat.
The cars with catalytic converters had green decal, and a narrower hole...
Tor Aronsen the sticker says unleaded fuel only on it...
The sticker said Super Plus Bleifrei, wich means unleaded super, it didn't say Nur Super Plus Bleifrei, that sticker would have been green as well. I don't really give a shit.....
You have american reviewers like.... some guy called DeMuro and others as well.... and after that, you watch some proper, real, European reviewer like Harry talk about cars..... then everything is clear...
Jay Leno isn't bad
+1 agreed I love Jay Leno's garage and he has some amazing guests that are full of knowledge as well
Doug Demuro sucks, I totally agree with you, but Bill from Auto Europa Naples is pretty good and funny. To be fair, it's a sales pitch mixed with dry American humor, but he does take it for a spin and knows a lot about the background of the cars he sells. Here's a review of a 2008 BMW M3 cabrio: th-cam.com/video/vyr1Vi6EGdo/w-d-xo.html
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That's why he is wearing shorts all the time?
@@bokkenrijder172 Bill is great
Harry finally does Gods Chariot!!!
Just such a FANTASTIC video as always - Many Thanks. As genuine car-nuts like yourself, we JUST love all the little intricate details and history about all the cars, red plug leads, all the expert details about the Paris-Dakar bikes - the enthusiasm, the minutia, the nitty-gritty technicalities - all of it - it's just a real joy to watch and listen - especially from someone who enjoys cars as much as us. Cheers, Harry.
I have shared the hell out of this video Harry, fabulous job !
I agreed with you about how great the motor is on the 87 Testarossa, which I also own. I still have my 91 M3 making 223 wheel hp and I still just love the car and the sound of this engine at high revs.
A Boy Racer after my own heart(with the greatest respect) Harry you really enjoy these cars on our behalf and give us the best experience you can.
First time encountering this channel and I must say, bravo mate; Incredibly well done video. That's a rare example of the perfect balance of not covering too many of the same facts that are pretty much common knowledge, while also lending that proper angle of impression of the vehicle from both its day and current times, especially the bits touching on the models it competed against -- even those from the same manufacturer. Very fascinating learning about the M3's C-pillar and rearward changes! Cheers
Ahh, the 80s. What a wonderful period. Watching this brought back all those lovely memories; Audi Quattros, Sierra Cosworths, Merc Cosworths, Saab Turbos, Whale Tail 911s, 205 GTIs, Astra GTEs, BMW M cars and V8 Astons. Even, whisper it, MG Montego Turbos (drive one, you might be surprised) Great decade for automotive thrills. The best thing about the 80s though, was that one could pick up Escort Twin Cams for next to nothing, none of this £55k nonesense we have now. That was a proper road rocket; It's what defined the decade for me because that was what us youngsters could afford at the time. And boy did we have fun in them. And the 2.8 Capris. Opel Mantas too, remember those? Simpler times, simpler cars (and all the better for it) and youthful, unadulterated automotive fun. Pass my rose-tinted glasses, fire up the Quattro, I'm off back to the 80s.
Great review.
I drove a friend's 1989 BMW M3 Dinan turbo in North America back in 1993. I think it had around 350-400 horsepower. Forget the exact number. It was a true monster. It was thrilling, refined and dangerous. The power band peaked like the standard M3, but with explosive power when the big single turbo kicked in. The sound was way more deep and muffled too.
I also tried out a new 1989 stock M3. There was no comparison between the two. The BMW Dinan M3 turbo was leaps and bounds better. Except that there was no windshield wiper fluid reservoir, because the turbo, plumbing and intercooler took up all the space inside the engines bay.
I didn’t know the details of the engine sizes/eco variants. Thanks Harry that’s why you’re the best.
Daily a 1989 325I back in 1990-1992 what a well made, and a really great driving car. Ultimate driving machines, the E30s were.
I had a black E30 M3 and a white Alpina B6 3.5S and I miss them both. Thanks for this Harry.
Watching Harry's videos again. What a joy this series is for us petrol heads
Love the content, keep it up Harry
Thanks for sharing, Harry! Always a pleasure. Great review.
what a lively chap harry is. Top notch skills on relaying what he is feeling with the viewer.
This made my day...the E30 M3 is my dream car :D Thanks Harry!
i had a 88 535i shifter. one day my mechanic Mo said go drive this M3. I took it out on the highway round the loop Wichita back thru the city. it made me smile because it was chuckable. powerful no, but probably could be quick thru the streets in the right (my) hands. handed Mo the keys with no desire to own the M3 because my 535 was a better car.
Gotta respect the passion, Harry exudes!
Great video by Harry as usual and a lovely Ravaglia.
I owned a 1989 Cat equipped 215bhp M3 Cecotto in Macau Blue for 4yrs back in the late 90's. Watching this brings back fond memories of that car, especially the early morning runs up and around the nearby Brecon Beacons on my days off. A car made for those type of roads. I would love one again but bloody hell they are "BIG" monies nowadays...
Harry makes good videos, a pleasure to watch. And always something informative about each car I didn't know before. But this M3 deserved a more thorough review. The true greatness of the E30 didn't come through here.
Since I have had a few miles on both the M3 and the 190 2.3, I have to say that the approach that they had was completely different.
With the M3 in order to maintaining a drift, it was common to have a higher exit speed than the entry. Very exiting but also very demanding. I was always on my toes trying to keep up.. Extremely satisfying though...
With the 190 you could maintain the drift without increasing your speed, nice and flowing...
If I had to chose it would probably be the M3 bat that would be a realy tough decision...
I have an 1986 316i 5 speed automatic, and thats the only one registered in my country. Im so proud of her.
Harry, thank you for making the best car videos on TH-cam! 👏
This, once again, is a really great review. I like the 80s DTM, even though that is way before my time... The modern DTM has nothing to do with it's past. I really enjoyed the history and background, and also the enthusiasm you have for that car. Thanks for sharing!
Harry always giving people what they want
Daniel Maia Hookers and blow?
Harry is a wealth of knowledge and what makes it so engaging is his history of the cars and the era - reliving those experiences lets us appreciate a car like this. Definitely my favorite car channel 👌One thing however, you're on the wrong side of the road mate.
Can listen to harry talking cars for days on end❤️
Great review Harry, thanks.
I have three E30 M3's: a stock coupe, a stock convertible and a highly modified 280 BHP road racer.
I must say that my stock coupe feels powerful enough, with a great balance of power, weight and grip. It encourages being thrashed and the relatively low power makes for a thrilling challenge in keeping momentum going round corners, which is what it's so good at! So engaging, so tactile.
I have Ferraris too but frankly they don't get much use compared to my little M3's! :-)
Great review of a legendary car! I personally own an E30 325i, and I think the E30 is one the greatest chassis ever built. And don't worry with that Brake light indicator. Mine is always on when the car starts, and wonce you stomp on the brake it disapears.
Had an 86 325es in my 20s. LOVED that car. Absolutely perfect automobile. Just felt right. I was so-so on the looks when I got it but now the thing looks sexy as hell.
Fantastic review, as per usual from the Master. Brought back some memories with it. In the early 90's I had a loan of one for a week. Given I was 19 at the time, it was like being accepted into nirvana. Metallic blue, with Recaro seats. The particular version I sadly can't remember. I loved the muscle bound arches.
Your comment about it being so compliant on the road was one such memory and how really nicely bolted together it felt and was. Compared to say the Cossie, it felt like "luxury" for the want of a better word and compared to the Lancia Delta it felt hewn from solid rock(not too difficult ;) The Delta always felt to me like an assembly of parts hellbent on wanting to return to their natural state sooner rather than later).
Beautifully balanced too. Like all great cars(IMHO) it felt like it was on _your side_. I remember being surprised that it didn't feel particularly fast. To me at least. Though in fairness that's likely down to me as I run out of talent in a pedal car so I know my limitations and adjust accordingly. I do remember that even in my ham fists it never scared me once. It was that nicely balanced. I also recall that a few years later when the owner wanted to sell it, he couldn't get shot of it for love nor money. Very little interest. Locally to me in Ireland anyway. IIRC it ended being bought by a Welsh chap. Funny how things change. These days if I even sat in one, I'd be arrested for devaluing it.
The E30 BMW M3 was built as a race car first then made road legal, they are MUCH Better looking than newer horrible BMW's, on the race track these were a REAL Weapon, Light, Good power, Fantastic handling/cornering and Braking, on a tight twisty track with the right driver nothing could touch them, in Europe Roberto Ravaglia and Emanuele Pirro were Works drivers they were very VERY Good/FAST!! Some raced in Australia too with great success, the engine is Not a shopping basket, they like to Rev up to 9000rpm!!
The best video channel have found to date on TH-cam. Thank you Harry!
Automotive Perfection! - What a Car! - Brilliant as ever Harry!
Nice quality car, I always admired BMWs for their engineering. In 1984 I had a BMW R65 motorcycle and the quality of it was unmatched by any other bike I have seen before or since.
Love it Harry!
Owned a 1987 325i (great car) back in the day but always wanted the M3.
Maybe one day................
Always enjoy your combination of knowledge and enthusiasm, another great video, thank you.
I love being subscribed to this, even the Testarossa in the back, would be enough for me, but I love everything else and have for years, I'm not even that jealous cos Harry's fantastic.
You make the perfect points in this video Harry. The end of Homologation rules in '96 (in producing road going specials) ruined motorsport, particularly rallying, for the last 20 years. No one can relate to any rally / touring car anymore. Drove one of these 15 years ago, back to back against my stock R32 GTR Skyline and it was light years slower. Sooo many people pay ridiculous prices for these sort of cars nowadays, expecting them to be outstanding and they're simply not.
Anorak time:
- That front spoiler is Evo II, not Evo I.
- The 16" wheels were available from 1987 as a factory option.
(I have three E30 M3's right now I love them so much!!)
Great video though, thanks.
Alex
I had the Mercedes 2.3-16, a 1988 with the Getrag manual, I had the choice of the Merc or an E30 M3 at the time - a 1990 2.3 standard car but it was twice the price of the Merc and at the time I didn’t want the LHD - I loved the Mercedes and it was a fabulous machine and practical to live with but a part of me always thought I should have stretched my finances and bought the M3. I sold the Merc for £2300 and bought a Volvo T5 a fabulous car in a completely different way, but the main reason for the change bring my daughter had just arrived and I wanted something newer and more practical - The Merc is still around and sold at Bonhams a couple of years ago for around £20,000 - guess I should of hung on to it! I suppose at least I can say I owned one
I became fascinated with the E30 M3 and around the early 1990’s I went to a hobby shop looking for a model of one. The shop employee looked and looked and looked through their large number of catalogs and finally found one plastic 1:24 E30 M3 kit and I bought it. I still have it all these years later and I should dig it out and build it.
you just cannot beat an E30 m3 absolutely beautiful
Your wonderful sense of humour prevails and I agree the black cam covers do look the best. Many years ago I was lent a similar car by the local dealer to use as a course car in my role as clerk of the course on a local rally with the proviso that I didn’t bend it because replacement headlights cost over a thousands pounds. I asked how this fact had come to light and I was just told to make sure I had an accident free rally!! I did but only just as it seemed easy to roll on a 90 right bend!! But it did go well........
i remember a friend of mine having one of these back in the late 90's with a C2 Alpina 2.7 straight 6 fitted in it, one of the scariest cars I've ever been in, great days.
Really has that rally sound to it. Thank you Harry, for doing these videos.
Had one years ago and sold it for £6.200 as it kept on going wrong.
When I found out how much they are worth now 20 years on and how much money I would have made triggered me in to buying a few cars for 20 years time.
So out of loosing ten's of thousands out of the M3 it is hopefully make me more in the future.
(always look forward to your video's Harry. your garage is full of great cars.)
Harry is very different to other reviews. He goes in depth in the ownership and finer details of an old school car enthusiast. He is like the fine wine taster of auto journalist, while the younger gen are more like the video gamer auto journos.
I had an E30 318i twin cam, I think they're underrated. I prefer it to the brawny 325i. Never quite said "I love you" like my 2002 did though.
Harry i think you need to get a w124 500e as well!
brabus 7.3
That would be the W140 S73
Long live the 500E!
E60 would be more interesting
+ Joe Barbaro E 500 6.9, the final stage was the Brabus E V12 7.3 S based on the w124
I can attest as a fanboy of the mk2 golf of the same era as this, the E30 engine bay detail and dressing from the factory is just stunning.
Have you ever driven a 190E Cosworth in anger, Harry? I mean really thrashed the arse off one. They feel visceral. Every little input given makes the car dance. Such a joy to drive.
TheStwat Totally agree! Had both cars and love them in a different way.. 👍
Are you Stwat on MBclub?
If you owned one of these back then not only did you have sight you could truly see the future of the benchmarks ✊🏼The end was in sight ( sadly for fast Ford domination) as the M cars have dominated the dreams of the working classes ever since.
Definitely subbed 😉
You couldn't beat the beauty out of these cars. It'd be impossible. No matter what, it'll always be a beautiful car.
So good thanks Harry. Still an absolute icon and one of my favourite cars of all time.
Harry, I would like to see a video with all your previous vehicles along with pictures and brief details on each. Thanks for another great video.
TH-cam and me needed this video for a while, love the Cecotto,Ravaglia & Evo 2 more then any other BMW products
I had an 86 e30. It really was a perfect car. Everything just feels right. Watching this brought me back, especially that feeling of flight as he winds through the curves - everything just so smooth and capable. And yes, the one negative was the actual power - but really, who cares? It was such a good car. And also, easy to work on. Everything made sense.
My next car, a Honda Civic, was good for me though. Kept me under control. The BMW was just too easy to go from 65-100mph.
Cheeky alpaca cameo at 11:59! 🐕🐕🐕
:D
great cars, owned one for about 10 years, enjoyed every moment of it. moved on to a new driving experience after some time. As you said, a great part of BMW's heritage. PS - re the steering, I did a z3 steering rack in mine and it was a magnificent upgrade to shorten and sharpen the steering.
Lovely looking car. I've always loved BMWs of the 80s. I also love the colour of this car. Beautiful! :)