The ancient history of the modern hamburger | Edible Histories Episode 4 | BBC Ideas
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- We tend to think of the burger a quintessentially American invention - the fastest of fast food. But the story of the hamburger goes back further than you might think - right back to the Romans. Food historian Annie Gray gets stuck in.
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Someone needs to research the origins of katsup (ketchup) which originally didn't contain tomatoes but instead was made from mushrooms.
I read it was fish fermented.
Who are you referring to?
Nah, not mushrooms. It was made from fermented fish, it originated from southern Chinese province of Guangdong and Fujian.
Fun fact : ketchup was used to be medicine but then changed into spices when people used it with their food instead of using it fir medicine changing the way ketchup moved throughout history
No, no, that's _catsup,_ C-A-T-S-U-P, or _ketchup,_ mmm, even more delicious when mixed with mayonnaise on a beefburger, maybe dip the french fries in the in ketchup/mayo sauce, MMM, typing this post is making me hungry :-P
I want a burger now 😭
I laughed at the end! *Le hamburGER* with the French accent 😂.
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French people: why you gonna be so rude
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Instantly thought of pink panther when she said it 😂
Hi, I've never tasted hamburger but I think looks very delicious maybe the taste will be beyond the world however which the accent you were speaking in in this video you could've spoken slow
I love how a British broadcaster makes it sound like the British invented the modern hamburger, when it was even in Britain called "hamburger" after the city Hamburg where the hamburger actually originated from. The name kinda gives it away, no?
I mean, they literally explained it in the video. Do you honestly not see how dumb your logic is? Just because something was named after a city, doesn't mean is has to be from that city. Hawaiian Pizza wasn't invented in Hawaii, and it wasn't Caesar that invented the salad.
The funny thing In Germany is when you’re a citizen of Hamburg you’re called Hamburger it would make sense that this is where the name comes from…
Yes also we have meat pattys Served in a breadroll with onions,pickles,salad,Mustard, Ketchup all over germany since idk 200 years or more(without Ketchup ofc)
@@royaleclan8498cheese?
According to legend, the hamburger was invented at the 1885 Erie County Fair in Hamburg, New York, by brothers Frank and Charles Menches.
@@royaleclan8498 Indeed, I have family recipes originating from Garding and Bockhorn from the late 17th century
Nice video thanks...
THANKS FOR THAT.
I'm making a ground wagyu burger now. Lettuce, tomato, yellow onion and swiss cheese with olive oil mayo and a tiny bit of ketchup on a toasted bun. Hamburgers are the best thing ever thought up as far as food goes. Oh, I'm also putting half an avocado. 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Funny name username lol, and that sounds absolutely delicious omg I’ve never had wagyu but i really want to, recently I have tried candied bacon on burgers as well as fried cheese I would def recommend trying that out on them!
Very cool
It's from Deutschland
The Romans in invented it
@makoto278 what the Roman made was more of a sausage. Did you watch the video?
Watching this while eating a Jollibee burger :)
Who cares
I guess the one who actually cared to comment?
@@tamara_diamonds422u cared
Yall be nice please
Loving it
Thanks!
This video is just completely wrong. She even Mentions White Castle which officially said it has its origin from Germany.
So, by definition, not completely wrong? Not to mention Germany was mentioned at the beginning?
@@ZalamaTheDragonGod Germany isn’t mention anywhere just ,,Hamburg". To put a patty inside a bun was not a US invention it was a German.
@@yowifeinmydm1609Hamburg is in germany
The japanese love the hamburger steak ver, thry basically Staples of meal set shop there to make hamburger steak paired with baked potato or even rice, that's why sometimes you gonna be confused as hamburger can mean two things, the hamburger steak meal set and the Hamburger sandwich type
The way she said "kebabs" though... 😂
"Kobobs" 🤣🤣🤣😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Which Hamburger do you like to eat?
The initial description sounds more like sausages.
The burger is one of the greatest and tastiest foods in all the world! I better go to bed or find myself in a drive thru! 😅😊🍔🍔
Hamburger have nothing to do with hamburg or Germany as shaped ground meat (patty or meatballs) is ancient invention found in roman empire Arabic peninsula and middtranian countries to preserve leftover meat by grinding it with spices and sometimes vegetables so the name is just a coincidence and I'm not sure who had the modem version of the Hamburger first but USA isn't a bad guess
A man wanted a sandwich, and he created the hamburger
a man wanted a sandwich and created nothing
The hamburger was invented in hamburg new york
Ehhhh.......The hamburger was first brought to USA by soldiers returning from Vietnam.
The name is derived from the Vietnamese word for Cow and Chicken - bò. and gà. - bo ga - boga - burga -burger.
I got a PhE (1 step beyond PhD ) in etmology online via groupon...so, I dun ma research!
ate a burger while watching this
Well bcc ideas your a lot smarter like all of this stuff
Pickled oysters didnt die. You are breaking my heart.
I thought Louise's invented the Hamburger
What about Louis lumch
though according to resourceful bbc video on 'pthalmates' (not sure spelling is right) chemical compound residues, are prominent in fast foods from the surfaces they are cooked on or used to prep the foods. make your own burger, though they should have let the economy 'respond accordingly' yet we always have a PRIME EXAMPLE of private industry ready to NOT HONOR THE HONOR SYSTEM👮♂️
They make good videos but I wish the reporters would speak a little slower🥲
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Btw I’m in schoolwork and I want McDonald’s
Noice
claiming Hamburger from united states is like claiming Kentucky fried chicken from germany.
I contest this. America not only popularized the staple was revolutionized
@@ErikPT yes. kentucky friend chicken is from germany.
Claiming hamburger is from Germany is like claiming German’s created the idea of minced beef
@@fmita_ Burgers are from Germany 🤷♂️
@@Nathalens *The Romans
Ok
He was wrong, hamburger is American food. It was called hamburger because the meat at the time came from Germany. First ever Hamburger restaurant is in America today as well
Burger lore
I Like Burger
Lefteyva meat?, the raymans?! what language are you speaking in?
"We"? I always just assumed Americans thought of hamburgers as an American invention, given their reputation when it comes to geography.
It is actually German. Look up "ründstuck warm". Hamburg had this way before America as a country even came into existence.
Not remotely similar
@@salmathecopt7969 They're near identical.
Oh a nutjob showed up. I gave ya the benefit of the doubt and googled "rundstuck warm" and it doesn't resemble the burger at all. That's a far stretch weirdo.
@@yasashii89 hamburger we know and love today is an american thing , german only eat the meat ,
@@ahmadkouis2748 No, they have the bread as well. Germans are crazy about bread.
Before McDonalds was a thing, every Aussie fish 'n chip shop also sold hamburgers. Ours typically included a fried egg and a slice of beetroot. Also, there is no such thing as 'Pickles', pickling is a process that can be applied to a range of vegetables. Pickled cucumber has never been popular here, despite Maccas and Hungry Jacks (Burger King).
video mentions, in passing, the "Horse Meat Scandal"... o_0
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My understanding is hamburger came from HAM Germany
According to legend, the hamburger was invented at the 1885 Erie County Fair in Hamburg, New York, by brothers Frank and Charles Menches.
Hamburger is not the name of the product, but the provenance of the vendors.
Frikadells in milk bread was the hamburger's original product name.
Frikawhat? Hamburger!
Hamburg steak 🎩
Burgers 🇺🇸
The Anglos trying to write Europeans out of history as usual, even pathetically trying to connect it to Britain itself. The Hamburger is a German food of course, though the American style so popularized around the world through its fast food industry presumably did indeed take shape in New York.
Knew it wasen’t from the U.S.
Yeah but the Hamburger you eat and know today was renovated by the Americans.
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Hamburgers are Italian?😳😳😳😳😳
No they are German they are from Hamburg in Germany but America steals the idea
@@kobe3955 I'm glad the idea wasn't stolen from the Romans then, almost had me worried.
I miss wimpy and great British burger.
Still a few Wimpy knocking around
So basically the hamburger is an American invention; and beef patties and balls have the ancient origin and not actual hamburgers. ok.
The hamburger is actually originated from German. Although it was a German immigrant that brought the Hamburger recipe to America
@@IamDaWandereryou’re thinking of the hamburg steak.
@@squadmaster114 i guess you're right
I hope you think, that humanity, as a whole, who loves putting anything, preferably protein, in their bread slices or bread rolls or bread equivalent rice balls, creating sandwiches of thousands of kinds, didn't put them grilled or fried meat patties in their bread making ekmek arası köfte s(literally meatball in-between bread), kebabs rolls(like burrito but has cooked meatballs and greens in it) and the like...
Humans put anything in bread. For seafood options see onigiri s and balık ekmek(literally fish bread)...
Hamburger, can be an American invention, sure, not saying no, but only as "a specific kind of meat patty sandwich". Not as the "first ever meat patty sandwich".
We saw that cooked meat patties of various kinds existed around from roman times. Bread(sssss) existed before them and is very widespread. Humans are both lazy and intention prone creatures. Anything that makes carrying and eating a valuable food item will be done if technology and religion permits. Putting cooked meat in bread is not that hard to accomplish. And very easy to serve food as, especially if you're an old style crowded family, which everyone will grab their bread and go out to their duties like seeding and harvesting, shepherding, washing, wool/string/clothes making (and playing and carrying water like we kids did because houses didn't have water then)...😅
Damn so America cant even claim one of their most popular food items. Cmon give them something lol
Any dish with tomatoes or potatoes is not european as those things come from the America's. Nothing is entirely new so it doesn't make sense to look back so far that things aren't recognizable. America standardized the hamburger and added cheese. So I'd say it's American enough.
Pov american try to steal food 😂
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Based on this. The hamburger is American. Like anything modern it is inspired from something else. The hamburger is still American.
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The modern burger is german-american. They make up a plurarity of white Americans though so aren't noticed as a distinct group.
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biggest lie in history, what americans call hamburger is a recipe of rundstuck warm which is a traditional dish from the city of Hamburg that comes in different varieties, in germany the common rundstuck warm is pretty much the same sadnwich foodchains like Arby's sell today but they also used hamburg steaks to make the sandwich, the pickles, the meat, the preparation, all invented in germany far before coming to america, all what americans did was to add cheddar cheese (which is british) and the vegetables other than the pickles, but the original hamburger recipe is german and invented in germany, all these propaganda of american origin is because americans are the best and they can only be the source of all the things you eat, like the huge lie of america being the origin of pizza while pizzaiolos existed in naples since the 18th century
Rundstück Warm.
We don't eat flat meatballs on bread and gravy. Well we do, but then we call them Salisbury Steaks.
So a restaurant decided to replace roast beef with flat meatballs, implied before introduction to America. And with pickles. Interesting. Could you add any more information
@@ZalamaTheDragonGod EU people cannot stand the idea that what the world today understands to be a hamburger originated in America, this makes them tilted. If they want to believe that Germans were going around handing out sesame seed buns with romaine lettuce and angus beef patties with ketchup, mustard, tomatos 4 trillion years ago then let them. The concept of having protein with bread probably happened around 14000 years ago in the middle east somewhere. So if you use the appearant EU definition of "invented" than nearly everything was probably invented in the middle east thousands of years ago. Ridiculous this conversation is still happening.
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Well done! 😍
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Hamburger with goodness of heart diseases 🤪
Who knew heart disease could taste so good
Long live the BURGER 🍔
There’s a difference between inventing the term hamburger and perfecting what we know as a hamburger. It’s a quintessential American staple. Far from the origin.
👍😃 Hey...i know a good burger. There is the Ramly Burger 🇲🇾
Does anyone go to Hamburg for a proper modern style burger??? Lol no. The modern burger that everyone eats is American 100%. The Hamburg steak sandwich is doused with gravy and is not remotely close to the modern sandwich. No burger in Europe competes with the best American styles of burger. The Oklahoma smash burger might as well be a national culinary treasure.
Burger history is Mongolia
The narrator speaks too fast. It is off-putting.
Cheese burgers are American if you guys have a problem with that romove your cheese from. You’re burgers
I hope McDonalds opens again soon
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Hambruger sounds like German.
It is German not American they stole it
@@kobe3955 stole the meat, not the sandwich. Otherwise someone better start gatekeeping bread🥨🥐
@@ZalamaTheDragonGod ?
@@ZalamaTheDragonGod the Hamburger is German with the bread
Yes because its from the City Hamburg in the North of Germany
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@@kobe3955 bro that was sarcasm
German invention not American
Edit: This is one year ago and you people are still arguing?
Nope that's not where the burger we know today came from, and roast pork in a bun isn't a burger
Everything that is "American" is probably either German or Italian
@@Elijah-cy9doThe hamburger we know of today? “Hamburger”, like the city Hamburg in Germany?
@garrynewman6211 it's just a name, lots of food were named after places where they didn't come from, French Fries or Chips didn't come from France
@Elijah-cy9do Hamburgers were
first created in
Hamburg,
Germany. The dish was a popular
street food at the time, served
with onions and spices on top of a
patty of ground beef.
Evidence suggests that
either the United States or
Germany (the city of
Hamburg) was the first
country where two slices
of bread and a ground
beef patty were combined
into a "hamburger
sandwich" and sold
Two sites saying that it was Hamburg, Germany that invented the hamburger. Sorry, but I am going to believe the majority on this one. Though there are some arguments that the US made it but there are more for Germany
Its American
Hamburger is German
You trying to tell me we got kebabs from West is heresy, blasphemy and colonialist imperialism.
No, they said the opposite: The Europeans went to the East and discovered kebabs there, and then brought the recipes back.
@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts kebabs were a greek recipe, there are murals and paintings from ancient Greece depicting kebabs, but the Hamburg steak is not based in kebab but in the minced meat mongolians did, brought into Germany by the tartars
Language barrier moment.
Lier is German invention 😂😂
Well, Hamburg's was out of a real time story- used in Army for eating.
Was for them good eating hamburger's in history time.. before 18 century.
Most of Army where was a war saw some real time and try on to do the same with a men's and women's who worked for Army and take care about them..
I have to say that without them would be a not existing hamburger's because this real time have to be a destroyed.
It’s always hilarious listening to a limey lecture about food. If it tastes good, it’s most likely not British.
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