Big thanks to Max from Tasting History for joining us once again! Check out our last video together on Roman Fast Food restaurants: th-cam.com/video/v5Qz00eUF5Q/w-d-xo.html
@@MajorJakas An odd coincidence, sure, but Invicta made this video with custom graphics, a sponsor to sign off on it, and it had a collaboration. You can't just smack together a video like this in 8 hours. Also, Invicta has been on the topic of Roman fast food ever since a fast food stand in Pompeii was unearthed, this is simply a follow up from that.
"I have tried the most fascinating meal today. It is said to be a recipe for ground beef and cheese invented by a barbarian from north of Hadrian's Wall who goes by the name of Macdonald...."
McDonalds didn't invent the hamburger though. He was great of industrializing food preparation and serving. On the other hand I find McDonald hamburgers untasty. I buy food there when I am in great hurry.
IMO, it wouldn't be too hard to make a Fillet-o-Fish in Ancient Rome either. Ancient Rome already had bread, fish, frying techniques, cheese and tzatziki.
There is at least one restaurant isekai, structured so that there are doors in a fantasy world/s that all lead to a restaurant in Japan (where most of the foods are western, if sometimes filtered through Japanese culture, like Hamburg steak). It's called Restaurant to Another World.
It's not that, but there is Thermae Romae. Which is about a Roman architect being randomly iskai'd to Japan and thus discovering contemporary Japanese bath culture and implementing some of its elements into Roman baths whenever he's transported back to his world. It's quite funny.
There's one manga called "Nobunaga no Chef' where a modern day chef gets isekai'd into oda nobunaga's time period and becomes his chef. Pretty good read.
Since so much of what we now see as "Italian" food has New World ingredients, I think it would be interesting to take a look at how close you could get to a few staples like Spaghetti and Meatballs or Lasagna on the streets of the Mayan Empire.
Mayans, Aztecs and Incas created and ate first a lot of global modern meals like Tomatoes, Corn, turkey meat, Potatoes, beans, Chili peppers, Pumpkins ,Chocolate, Tacos, Popcorn, guacamole or Pulque at the same time when they built their stone pyramids and cities.
"Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild idea, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was…I forget. But the point is…I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car."
that's just unfair. this parable reveals yeshua's hindu lehre. of course its a mystery lol. he was just some guy who thought EVERYONE is god right, and wrong, and so here we are.
@@karl-heinzgrabowski3022 Same here in Estonia. I can't understand how people eat sandwiches without butter, I've seen so many people do that in US and it boggles my mind... like isn't it dry af otherwise
That's not invented by Nero. It's much older, and it's just a garlic mayo sauce, used in all western Mediterranean shores (Liguria and Catalunya mainly)
The ingredients for mayo have always been very cheap and common in Europe and the Middle East. There is no reason they did not figure out the recipe millenia ago.
That was really intersting, but I'm disappointed that we did not see Max making this burger, I've really thought he would when we saw images of "patties" cooking XD
The grape must sauce that Max talked about for the beef in caul fat could be mixed with vinegar and garum to make a passable ketchup substitute. It meets the flavor requirements of being salty, sour, and sweet.
@@ai6896 I use it to flavor meat loaf, and it comes out nice. It would definitely depend on what way you wanted that beef to turn out though. Not for every recipe for sure.
@@InvictaHistory I think the culture and the everyday man type of videos are so much more interesting and useful for creating a mental image of Ancient Rome. Everyone does battles but your stuff is the best because you show us stuff no one else does
@@InvictaHistory There are so many channels that do military history, please stick to your more diverse approach! Military history might be beloved of pop history, but it's only a tiny part of the whole field. Modern historiography has found other things to study that are of much deeper importance to a society than the size of chainmail rings they used.
i came for the "o god, what did we do, how do we stop that, what if it happens again" I DID NOT STAY FOR THE BURNT COWFLESH AND COWS MILK IS A GOD DAMNGED SIN
15:54 "Mustard was so common, that a street preacher in a back water town of a distant province even made a parable about the mustard seeds, that we still know of today" - he's is talking about Jesus right?
"we invited Max Miller from tasting history for this one" You now have my full and undivided attention. I love it when the history channels that I like are working together. Also, good burger I think
Hum. What might go into a Teutoburger? I guess rye bread, as was the way of the tribes. Berries from the thick and dark forests, stewed into a sauce running red as the blood of three legions. Patties from wild boar meat, fattened with the butter so beloved by these barbarii. Decorated with gold flakes cut from the wings of stolen eagles.
@@plt927 Well, yes but actually no. The name Hamburg (or back then, "Hammaburg") only started being used in the 8th century. The romans only mentioned a place which may or may not have been located in the same spot as modern day Hamburg. They called it Treva. Thus, the proper name for the meal might arguably be Trevanum.
This has nice isekai vibes. Something like "That Time When I Reincarnated in Ancient Rome and Started a Burger Shop". It may be the past, but maybe it still counts as an Isekai, since the past is almost like another world.
@@asurveillancecamera3392 Literally "another world", a person ends up in another world/dimension/reality/time and then shenanigans happen, sometimes tragedy, sometimes comedy, other times both. Sometimes it's by some jerk god, others because of truck-kun, usually it's a one-way trip w/ some magical power/powers as a "lol sorry" apology from w/e being caused you to be there.
If this was set in the late Republic/early Imperial era, our protagonist would probably join forces with the Guild of Millers in making true roman hamburgers for true romans
A guy named Magnum fumus in caesars chariot-thru: "I'll have two number IX's, a number IX large, a number VI with extra garum, a number VII, a two number XLV's, one with caseus, and a large posca".
"Mustard was so common that a street preacher in a backwater town made reference to it's seeds that we still know today" man that took a minute but then my laughter startled my neighbour
Mate, I love these videos, about the lives of regular people. And food is such an important part of that! Even speculative videos like this are cool, since it's limited to the ingredients and techniques of the period.
One recipe I personally would like to see recreated in a Roman fashion would be Bao or pork buns similar to those in the Pixar Animation of the same name. It's one of my personal favorite recipes and I feel like the Romans would have easily had most if not all of the ingredients necessary for that
@@JohnSmith-nh2te easy when you're just ripping off somebody else. I saw the other video this morning, then went and tore up and replaced an entire kitchen floor in about the same time. Don't even sit there and pretend as though this has a huge production value. ALL of the slides for this video could be made in seconds, especially for experienced creators.
Answering a question we already know the answer to and even have recipes detailing: museumcrush.org/the-1500-year-old-recipe-that-shows-how-romans-invented-the-beef-burger/
if we could back-travel with the knowledge of today... we would become Gazillionares... which is why i think people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk are time travelers
In research a few years ago I read about Roman street vendors with a variety of meat cuts from which the customer could choose which would be ground up. Also at this point nuts and other spices could be ground with it. This was made into a patty that would be cooked on a piece of slate with a fire under it. After being cooked, it would be put into a sliced piece of bread and wrapped in paper. I do not have the citation, however.
"Bread light enough to float in water"... I don't think I've ever seen a bread that sinks. Even including all those weird artisanal brown bricks with random seeds.
@@plt927 I think you need to cut down on the amount of powdered chalk and limestone. I know, it won't taste like Grandma's but it deters people when they see bread that just won't float ...
It's so strange, I've been watching this channel for years, but I just found Max Miller a couple of weeks ago, and now he's here. I love when TH-cam sometimes reminds me how small the world can be.
I love the look on Caesar's face on the Caesar's grill sighn. It's as if he's daring you to come in to the grill, with a hint of a grin, cause he knows you will.
I normally don’t comment on videos, but I’ve really enjoyed the content this channel provides! Educational and intriguing content that helps me prepare for my time travel! Thanks!
Finding well produced, clever and informative, along with speculative and inquisitive content such as this makes muddling through some of the trite and self-aggrandizing drivel that clutters TH-cam worthwhile. I already know how to match my lip colour with my well organized DIY bohemian spa bathroom, so finding something that entices thought, engenders hypothesis, and adds to my historical knowledge is just soooo satisfying. Thank you! PS I should have mentioned that in addition to all of the above this channel is also just plain old FUN and darned entertaining!
I know this goes without saying but thank you so much for making these videos about every-day life. It’s a much more interesting topic than the endless discussions about military tactics and politics that most self-proclaimed history buffs engage in
Everyone should know history well, and it's a shame that the field is stereotyped and relegated to memorizing names and dates primarily of battles. It's far more important, crucial even, to understand cultures of the past in their wholesale, their saints and heroes, how they lived and worshiped and ate and died..sigh.
@@seronymus Precisely. I don't sit here thinking about politics or wars every day. The thing that concerns me is being able to pay the bills and have fun with my friends and loved ones. I imagine the exact same thing was true of the past. I don't think the average Roman sat around discussing military strategy and the Roman Emperors constantly, he was probably also more concerned with being able to pay his rent and provide for his family.
This is probably my favourite series on TH-cam now. I hope it delves deep into other periods and cultures, like knowing how and what all these individuals humans over the history of mankind ate feels like something special.. Kinda a peak into that transcending individual yet collective human experience
"Burgers," hell! Based on this list of ingredients, I might have had better luck digging a barbecue pit and slowly cooking up some quasi-Texas-style brisket or pork: covered only in salt and pepper, with a vinegar-based dipping sauce at most. I just need to find the right kind of wood . . . and some way to wake myself up WAY early to start smoking!
About the patty binding being made with bread crumbs and milk: we still do it like that in Spain, I'm sure other mediterranean countries do it as well. It's not that is not done like that today, it's just that you don't do it like that in the US. Same thing with the bun, we don't toast it in butter, neither oil generally. Rather we tend to like it plainly. Hope that helps
There's a condiment called "mushroom ketchup", which is similar to tomato ketchup, but uses mushrooms in place of tomatoes. They wouldn't have been making it 2000 years ago, but there's no reason they couldn't have, in terms of ingredients and preparation technique, just nobody thought of it.
Well, the whole ketchup idea comes from Indonesian soy sauce, so calling it that goes right out the window. But a savory mushroom sauce of some description seems likely to have existed. Maybe like a relish with garum.
I didn't like how he concluded against using mushrooms. There may not have been quality control, but if you sell mushrooms, your life (economically and physically) depends on you being able to discern between types of mushrooms. Furthermore, the Mediterranean is home to fewer dangerous mushroom species than America is, and they tend to be less dangerous.
@@LeoStaley Moreover, even today the vast majority of mushrooms consumed in europe (and certainly the most prised ones) are naturally grown and hand picked from forests (good luck trying to grow "porcini" in an artificial controlled environiment).
"I wonder at those who think about their body's food, but do not think about their soul's food. They keep away disturbing food from their belly, but fill up their hearts with destructive subjects.“ - Hasan ibn Ali
@@QuizmasterLaw But “man cannot love on bread alone.” God gives us purpose in life, if your only purpose was to toil away for food each day, why not just give up and die? Everyone must search their hearts and know the truth: Christ is our salvation, the only way to God our Creator!
@@vertigq5126 If your only purpose in life is a likely fictive and certainly unproven sky daddy then that is a problem. Life has plenty of meaning without religious faith.
@@jansenart0 yes the origin of mayonnaise is disputed. But "aioli" is what it means and that's simply garlic and oil. There's no way to deny that, you just can't
I just need to say that the origins of Mayonaise are spanish and not french, specifically its from an island in the Balearics called Mahón (thats where the name comes from)
The name mayonnaise comes from "moyeunnaise" ("moyeu" being the old French word for "egg yolk"). But the ingredients being so common, i'm sure it was, like beer, discovered independently by many people in the world.
I'm really digging these cross over/collaboration episodes. Both you guys and Tasting history did a great job in both your videos. Thanks you both so much for the great content!
@@AlienFromBeyond Then unfortunately you missed the note around 10:23 which acknowledges that the Romans themselves didn't use eggs as a binder. They preferred breadcrumbs.
Another Invicta and Max Miller crossover video? AWESOME! I'm really enjoying these as the food/culture feels (and tastes) much more real, that our ancient ancestors are actually closer than we think we they were!
How about cibum disco panis testudo (cd testudo for short) then one day testudo becomes the slang for a round sandwich on a round bun much like the Mexican torts sandwiches or carni pani testudi (cpt) or disco testudo (dt)
!!!!! I just found this channel! Thank you!!!! ...just to let you know, I subbed within 10 seconds. Quality is instantly recognizable.Thank you for the hard work, amazing research and friendly presentation. I'm aware of how hard it is to run a channel.
Lmaooooo I literally got a bunch of ground beef yesterday night, then prepped coals for tonight this morning when I got up before work. I got home and checked my upload feed and you uploaded a burger video great timing but I forgot my Garum xD
Ah, yes. Step aside, epic historical battles and legendary political figures! The true questions we must ask lie not in you, but in whether we can make a Whopper in the times of antiquity! All shall see the might of the Big Mac, tremble in awe at the magnificence of the Quarter Pounder, and if their gods shall permit them the honor, taste the heavenly double-meat with bacon burger special!
Love the video! One correction I need to make though: Burger pattys don't need egg. Eggs in Burgers are a bit like cream in Carbonara: an easy way to make the dish a lot easier to cook. If you're careful when making them it's absolutley possible to leave the eggs out. I think in one of Gordon Ramsays videos on Burgers he mentions this. It also makes the burgers taste different (a bit more exquisite and fine imo). I can only recomend trying it without eggs.
@@aidenc02 it's a very popular myth amongst food normies, a lot of people taint the patties with egg, breadcrumbs, onion, mustard (yes, I've experienced this), and add the seasonings into the mix before forming the patty - it's madness.
This is certainly true of a modern burger, but in this case, without refrigeration to help the fat keep its structural integrity during grinding and storage, egg mixed in and the caul fat wrap are probably necessary.
@@Trieh I mean, I'm a professional chef with a formal culinary training and over a decade of experience. You don't put egg in the meat. It changes the texture to that of a meatball. You can put whatever you want in a burger, true. But that doesn't mean you should. Burgers patties are just meat. Ideally, 75-80% lean beef. It doesn't need egg to hold it together. Just a hard sear and it'll be fine on its own. You then put whatever you want ON TOP.
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Big thanks to Max from Tasting History for joining us once again! Check out our last video together on Roman Fast Food restaurants: th-cam.com/video/v5Qz00eUF5Q/w-d-xo.html
"Could you make a Hamburger in Ancient Rome?" is the fundamental question that scholars have always been afraid to ask.
Eggs and chopped-meat equal a meatloaf, not a burger.
HAMBURGIR
No thanks at all to "How to Make Everything" for making the original video this morning?
@@MajorJakas An odd coincidence, sure, but Invicta made this video with custom graphics, a sponsor to sign off on it, and it had a collaboration. You can't just smack together a video like this in 8 hours. Also, Invicta has been on the topic of Roman fast food ever since a fast food stand in Pompeii was unearthed, this is simply a follow up from that.
Thank you again for having me on!
Hahaha glad you are popping up left and right !
Someday, I really hope you will open a historic restaurant. Let them eat history =D
THE RISE OF MAX
@@hndrwn this sounds like a lot of work. Can I just maitre d’ and ask people how their meal is? 🤣
@@TastingHistory Hey Max! Is the video of you making the patties going to be released on your channel soon? Or have I missed it and it’s up already?
"I have tried the most fascinating meal today. It is said to be a recipe for ground beef and cheese invented by a barbarian from north of Hadrian's Wall who goes by the name of Macdonald...."
It always makes me laugh when I remember that McDonald is a Scottish name. It seems so out of place!
@@Alizudo well the don part is latin.
@@rahowherox1177 yeah Donaldo is a medieval Italian name
Ronald Mcdonald
McDonalds didn't invent the hamburger though. He was great of industrializing food preparation and serving. On the other hand I find McDonald hamburgers untasty. I buy food there when I am in great hurry.
"A true Roman hamburger"
Well first you're going to need some true Roman bread for true Romans.
Made in a mass kiln from the Roman government dole.
From the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers perhaps?
I think you mean trve Roman bread for trve Romans
Only the best from the miller guild
I see what you did there 😊😂😊😂😊😊
IMO, it wouldn't be too hard to make a Fillet-o-Fish in Ancient Rome either. Ancient Rome already had bread, fish, frying techniques, cheese and tzatziki.
Ancient McDonald’s Confirmed
Tzatziki absolutely is not tartar sauce. Nobody in their right mind eats tartar sauce by spoonful. I can attest to doing so with tzatziki
@@tbishop4961 ... I am glad I am not alone in this.
@@tbishop4961 Tzatziki gang
@@KentuckyFriedChildren gang gang. That shits good on EVERYTHING!
Now I want some Japanese light novel author to make a book about some chef being isekaied back to Ancient Rome and setting up a hamburger joint.
There is at least one restaurant isekai, structured so that there are doors in a fantasy world/s that all lead to a restaurant in Japan (where most of the foods are western, if sometimes filtered through Japanese culture, like Hamburg steak). It's called Restaurant to Another World.
It's not that, but there is Thermae Romae. Which is about a Roman architect being randomly iskai'd to Japan and thus discovering contemporary Japanese bath culture and implementing some of its elements into Roman baths whenever he's transported back to his world. It's quite funny.
@@Knoloaify Yeah Thermae is pretty good. Another great manga set in Rome is Ad Astra which covers the Second Punic War.
Izakaya Nobu anyone?
There's one manga called "Nobunaga no Chef' where a modern day chef gets isekai'd into oda nobunaga's time period and becomes his chef. Pretty good read.
Since so much of what we now see as "Italian" food has New World ingredients, I think it would be interesting to take a look at how close you could get to a few staples like Spaghetti and Meatballs or Lasagna on the streets of the Mayan Empire.
see, that makes ME wonder how well you could make them in italy before europeans found the new world...
Ok now you got me wondering if you can make pasta with corn flour
Edit: YOU CAN
Mayans, Aztecs and Incas created and ate first a lot of global modern meals like Tomatoes, Corn, turkey meat, Potatoes, beans, Chili peppers, Pumpkins ,Chocolate, Tacos, Popcorn, guacamole or Pulque at the same time when they built their stone pyramids and cities.
@@ArturoLopez-ly2pnAlso instead of marnara there other cheese and fish based sauces
@@octaviogutierrez9158 There are beans in Eurasia, just different one. But it's still an impressive list.
"A street preacher in a backwater town of a distant province even made a parable about mustard seeds."
Gee, I wonder who that could be?
Oh man can't believe I didn't catch that at first lol. Repping my man JC
"Kids, let me tell you about another so-called "wicked" guy. He had long hair and some wild idea, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was…I forget. But the point is…I forget that too. Marge, you know who I'm talking about. He used to drive that blue car."
that's just unfair. this parable reveals yeshua's hindu lehre.
of course its a mystery lol. he was just some guy who thought EVERYONE is god
right, and wrong, and so here we are.
@@QuizmasterLaw that’s nowhere near what he taught
@@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822 name checks out. 👍
caesar’s grill would probably get you arrested for defamation, although “fortune flavors the bold” is legendary
>ancient romans thought butter was to be enjoyed only by barbarian peoples.
My inner harlaus is screaming.
We're at war with four other nations. High time to go on a feast.😂
mfw butter is still the most important part of a sandwich in Germany
@@karl-heinzgrabowski3022 Same here in Estonia. I can't understand how people eat sandwiches without butter, I've seen so many people do that in US and it boggles my mind... like isn't it dry af otherwise
Romans weren't butterlords
Screaming "BARBARBARBAR"?
The Spanish - especially the Catalans - claim that the Romans DID have a form of "mayo" - look at aïoli. They claim that it was Nero who invented it.
That's not invented by Nero. It's much older, and it's just a garlic mayo sauce, used in all western Mediterranean shores (Liguria and Catalunya mainly)
The ingredients for mayo have always been very cheap and common in Europe and the Middle East. There is no reason they did not figure out the recipe millenia ago.
Nah thats not mayo, I'm spanish and yeah it kind of has a bit of similar flavour, but alioli isnt too similar
That was really intersting, but I'm disappointed that we did not see Max making this burger, I've really thought he would when we saw images of "patties" cooking XD
Episode releases next Tuesday :)
@@TastingHistory Oh great :D
Max pulling through haha
Don't worry "How to make everything" Did a roman burger recently as well. lol
I hope he will make some "ketchup" sauce, and some sort of handmade mayo. Maybe cranberry/rapsberry sauce instead of ketchup?
Love Tasting History. Y’all should collab more :)
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The grape must sauce that Max talked about for the beef in caul fat could be mixed with vinegar and garum to make a passable ketchup substitute. It meets the flavor requirements of being salty, sour, and sweet.
try it you madman and tell us if its actually good lol, im curious
As odd as it may sound, mixing garum and other spices in a burger might end up something like a worcestershire sauce flavor.... I would try it.
Worcestershire sauce tastes good in venison pattys I'm not sure about beef though
@@ai6896 I use it to flavor meat loaf, and it comes out nice. It would definitely depend on what way you wanted that beef to turn out though. Not for every recipe for sure.
That sounds fucking amazing.
@@ai6896 My dad puts it in our beef patties every so often and they come out tasting good.
@@ai6896 Its great in beef patties, once tried never again omitted ...
I really love how thouroughly max is integrating himself in the historical TH-cam community
This channel has come so far from Total War battles.
I do miss making battles videos but find the ability to cover subjects beyond military history to be highly liberating
@@InvictaHistory I think the culture and the everyday man type of videos are so much more interesting and useful for creating a mental image of Ancient Rome. Everyone does battles but your stuff is the best because you show us stuff no one else does
Wait this channel has battle vids..how did I miss that🤣🤣
@@InvictaHistory There are so many channels that do military history, please stick to your more diverse approach! Military history might be beloved of pop history, but it's only a tiny part of the whole field. Modern historiography has found other things to study that are of much deeper importance to a society than the size of chainmail rings they used.
i came for the "o god, what did we do, how do we stop that, what if it happens again"
I DID NOT STAY FOR THE BURNT COWFLESH AND COWS MILK IS A GOD DAMNGED SIN
15:54 "Mustard was so common, that a street preacher in a back water town of a distant province even made a parable about the mustard seeds, that we still know of today" - he's is talking about Jesus right?
Yep
“What good comes out of Nazareth?”
@@martytu20, philosophers, apparently.
Took me a few to realize that too.
@@martytu20 mustard
Burger Emperor, soon in every major city's forum.
Burgures rex
@@Tareltonlives burger sex 😰
@@paw0960 😳
"the burgers are better at the roman empire"
"we invited Max Miller from tasting history for this one"
You now have my full and undivided attention. I love it when the history channels that I like are working together.
Also, good burger I think
THIS is what the internet was invented for. Answering the BIG questions!!!!
You might say this is a... whopper... of a question
7:19 Damn, even the Romans knew about the carcegenic properties of too much meat.
No wonder Diocletian became a cabbage farmer with all this hype about it
The origin of the screaming "My Cabbages!" Meme. Ave, Diocletian!
"My cabbages!!!!"
Ow, my cabbages!!!
German competition: Teutoburger.
"Quintililius Varus, give me back my legumes!"
Ps: Blessed are the cheesemakers.
Hum.
What might go into a Teutoburger?
I guess rye bread, as was the way of the tribes.
Berries from the thick and dark forests, stewed into a sauce running red as the blood of three legions.
Patties from wild boar meat, fattened with the butter so beloved by these barbarii.
Decorated with gold flakes cut from the wings of stolen eagles.
Since Hamburg already existed in Roman times, you could still call it a Hamburger :D
@@plt927 Well, yes but actually no. The name Hamburg (or back then, "Hammaburg") only started being used in the 8th century.
The romans only mentioned a place which may or may not have been located in the same spot as modern day Hamburg. They called it Treva.
Thus, the proper name for the meal might arguably be Trevanum.
Blessed too, are the Greeks.
Blessed are the meek.
Me waiting for the last part of avenging Varus
Invicta: HAMBURGERS IN ROME?
Priorities amicus. Priorities.
GIVE ME BACK MY BURGERS!
This has nice isekai vibes. Something like "That Time When I Reincarnated in Ancient Rome and Started a Burger Shop". It may be the past, but maybe it still counts as an Isekai, since the past is almost like another world.
What is isekai?
@@asurveillancecamera3392 Going to another world. Its an japanese term.
Try reading Therma Romae, it might be up your alley
@@asurveillancecamera3392 Literally "another world", a person ends up in another world/dimension/reality/time and then shenanigans happen, sometimes tragedy, sometimes comedy, other times both. Sometimes it's by some jerk god, others because of truck-kun, usually it's a one-way trip w/ some magical power/powers as a "lol sorry" apology from w/e being caused you to be there.
If this was set in the late Republic/early Imperial era, our protagonist would probably join forces with the Guild of Millers in making true roman hamburgers for true romans
Let's call this burger Bigus Macus
Yeah, Burger Rex just doesn't seem... Roman enough.
Magnus Macus?
I have a good friend in Rome named Bigus Macus...
@@TRG29338 He has a wife, you know. Incontinentia... Incontinentia Taco.
Vopper
A guy named Magnum fumus in caesars chariot-thru:
"I'll have two number IX's, a number IX large, a number VI with extra garum, a number VII, a two number XLV's, one with caseus, and a large posca".
Sejanus: "Make it two posca."
* steps out of time portal into a Roman street *
"Boy do I have a business proposition for you!"
You mean: “Puerum enim habeo negoti propositionis pro vobis est”
@@RestitutorEuropa unless it’s 476 Rome
"Mustard was so common that a street preacher in a backwater town made reference to it's seeds that we still know today" man that took a minute but then my laughter startled my neighbour
Seeing max again put a smile on my face. Such a good guy
Awwww, you're makin' me blush.
Oh shiz fam, max just replied. Sweeeet.
The happy Romans eating happy lil Roman cheeseburgers at the end is so wholesome
it makes me hapy,
Mate, I love these videos, about the lives of regular people. And food is such an important part of that!
Even speculative videos like this are cool, since it's limited to the ingredients and techniques of the period.
One recipe I personally would like to see recreated in a Roman fashion would be Bao or pork buns similar to those in the Pixar Animation of the same name. It's one of my personal favorite recipes and I feel like the Romans would have easily had most if not all of the ingredients necessary for that
Ah yes, answering questions nobody asked but everybody finds interesting
He saw the channel "How to Make Everything" put out this exact same video earlier this morning so he just ripped it off.
@@MajorJakas that doesn’t make any sense. So you’re saying he watched his video, then pumped out this script and art in less than a day?
@@JohnSmith-nh2te easy when you're just ripping off somebody else. I saw the other video this morning, then went and tore up and replaced an entire kitchen floor in about the same time. Don't even sit there and pretend as though this has a huge production value. ALL of the slides for this video could be made in seconds, especially for experienced creators.
@@MajorJakas Then we shall praised Invicta for the speed of their uploads.
Answering a question we already know the answer to and even have recipes detailing:
museumcrush.org/the-1500-year-old-recipe-that-shows-how-romans-invented-the-beef-burger/
If Invicta has time travel machine, he would be a very successful businessman in history
if we could back-travel with the knowledge of today... we would become Gazillionares...
which is why i think people like Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk are time travelers
The grillers guild, True Roman hamburgers for true romans.
In research a few years ago I read about Roman street vendors with a variety of meat cuts from which the customer could choose which would be ground up. Also at this point nuts and other spices could be ground with it. This was made into a patty that would be cooked on a piece of slate with a fire under it. After being cooked, it would be put into a sliced piece of bread and wrapped in paper. I do not have the citation, however.
"Bread light enough to float in water"...
I don't think I've ever seen a bread that sinks.
Even including all those weird artisanal brown bricks with random seeds.
Then you haven't encountered flour spiked with powdered chalk or limestone...
@@SonsOfLorgar Just shows you the delicacies we've missed since the introduction of food standards and safety ....
Just goes to show you how light and fluffy modern baked goods are that it was something to take note of.
My first baking attempts wouldn't float 😂
German Pumpernickel would also sink
@@plt927 I think you need to cut down on the amount of powdered chalk and limestone. I know, it won't taste like Grandma's but it deters people when they see bread that just won't float ...
"What do you say about making money on banking?"
"What do you say about making money on murder?"
Bankers. Getting shit for the last 2000 years. XD
Based
It's so strange, I've been watching this channel for years, but I just found Max Miller a couple of weeks ago, and now he's here.
I love when TH-cam sometimes reminds me how small the world can be.
I love the look on Caesar's face on the Caesar's grill sighn. It's as if he's daring you to come in to the grill, with a hint of a grin, cause he knows you will.
"from a beautiful white loaf to grainy hard tack"
My brain: *insert Max hard tack cutaway gag* XD
I normally don’t comment on videos, but I’ve really enjoyed the content this channel provides! Educational and intriguing content that helps me prepare for my time travel! Thanks!
Do Pulled Pork.. As pork was incredibly common in Rome, you wouldn't disrupt the timeline
11:11 you can hear him breaking up about the lack of tomatoes
Finding well produced, clever and informative, along with speculative and inquisitive content such as this makes muddling through some of the trite and self-aggrandizing drivel that clutters TH-cam worthwhile. I already know how to match my lip colour with my well organized DIY bohemian spa bathroom, so finding something that entices thought, engenders hypothesis, and adds to my historical knowledge is just soooo satisfying. Thank you!
PS I should have mentioned that in addition to all of the above this channel is also just plain old FUN and darned entertaining!
Max is back! Woo hoo! You two teaming up is the BEST
I know this goes without saying but thank you so much for making these videos about every-day life. It’s a much more interesting topic than the endless discussions about military tactics and politics that most self-proclaimed history buffs engage in
Everyone should know history well, and it's a shame that the field is stereotyped and relegated to memorizing names and dates primarily of battles. It's far more important, crucial even, to understand cultures of the past in their wholesale, their saints and heroes, how they lived and worshiped and ate and died..sigh.
@@seronymus Precisely. I don't sit here thinking about politics or wars every day. The thing that concerns me is being able to pay the bills and have fun with my friends and loved ones. I imagine the exact same thing was true of the past. I don't think the average Roman sat around discussing military strategy and the Roman Emperors constantly, he was probably also more concerned with being able to pay his rent and provide for his family.
This is probably my favourite series on TH-cam now. I hope it delves deep into other periods and cultures, like knowing how and what all these individuals humans over the history of mankind ate feels like something special..
Kinda a peak into that transcending individual yet collective human experience
Me: waiting for the video on the conclusion of Germanicus campaigns against arminius
**Invicta: Did Roman's have Hamburgers?**
Yesss another collaboration between Invicta and Tasting History, awesome stuff guys!
Finally, someone asking THE REAL questions!
Love the direction this channel is taking
Please tell me Cato’s shop sold something called the Salted Porcius.
Wasn't it Salted Sus? (This is *not* a ref to a "certain game")
@@OverseerMoti when the imposter is crucified by Tit *sus* for overusing a meme
@@OverseerMoti AMONGST
Now this is an amazing crossover episode. Love both these channels so much.
Finally asking the real questions.
"Burgers," hell! Based on this list of ingredients, I might have had better luck digging a barbecue pit and slowly cooking up some quasi-Texas-style brisket or pork: covered only in salt and pepper, with a vinegar-based dipping sauce at most. I just need to find the right kind of wood . . . and some way to wake myself up WAY early to start smoking!
Garum can be mixed with simmered vegetables and fruit and turned into barbecue sauce!
Just you wait, Invicta is gonna create a fast food chain serving Roman food!
I'm here because of Max!!!! Also, great video Invicta :) I thoroughly enjoyed it!
They did had ketchup, it just wasn't tomato ketchup.
True...the original catsup/ketchup was made from mushrooms.
Catosup
Garum?
@@MegaTang1234 no. Go stand in the corner ;)
I came here to comment this, good job!
About the patty binding being made with bread crumbs and milk: we still do it like that in Spain, I'm sure other mediterranean countries do it as well. It's not that is not done like that today, it's just that you don't do it like that in the US. Same thing with the bun, we don't toast it in butter, neither oil generally. Rather we tend to like it plainly. Hope that helps
You'll get the burger but it won't come with ketchup, tomatoes, or a side of Gaelic Fries.
But we could have goat cheese
Mushrooms we could have those
At least no one mentioned "freedom fries" - the person who came up with that little gem is due a dose of rectal implement, hold the olive oil...
@@MrRourk I would love to taste the “Greatest of All Time” cheese! See if it lives up to its claim!
@@rosiehawtrey I know right? Eh he heh heh.....* quickly searches to delete that exact comment made in previous video about Fast Food in ancient Rome*
ahh yes, another dose of “a questions i never asked but i want to know their answers”
There's a condiment called "mushroom ketchup", which is similar to tomato ketchup, but uses mushrooms in place of tomatoes. They wouldn't have been making it 2000 years ago, but there's no reason they couldn't have, in terms of ingredients and preparation technique, just nobody thought of it.
I believe strawberry was used after that, which has been driving me nuts since I found out..
Well, the whole ketchup idea comes from Indonesian soy sauce, so calling it that goes right out the window.
But a savory mushroom sauce of some description seems likely to have existed.
Maybe like a relish with garum.
I didn't like how he concluded against using mushrooms. There may not have been quality control, but if you sell mushrooms, your life (economically and physically) depends on you being able to discern between types of mushrooms. Furthermore, the Mediterranean is home to fewer dangerous mushroom species than America is, and they tend to be less dangerous.
@@dashofsalt4359 o_o
@@LeoStaley Moreover, even today the vast majority of mushrooms consumed in europe (and certainly the most prised ones) are naturally grown and hand picked from forests (good luck trying to grow "porcini" in an artificial controlled environiment).
"Legate why are you crying?"
"I miss my wife"
"I gotchu, eat this sow's vulva"
"I wonder at those who think about their body's food, but do not think about their soul's food. They keep away disturbing food from their belly, but fill up their hearts with destructive subjects.“
- Hasan ibn Ali
that's unfair. everyone must eat. not everyone even has the chance to think about anything other than that. see 1.
@@QuizmasterLaw But “man cannot love on bread alone.” God gives us purpose in life, if your only purpose was to toil away for food each day, why not just give up and die? Everyone must search their hearts and know the truth: Christ is our salvation, the only way to God our Creator!
@@vertigq5126 If your only purpose in life is a likely fictive and certainly unproven sky daddy then that is a problem. Life has plenty of meaning without religious faith.
@@vertigq5126 you need a psychiatrist...
@@SonsOfLorgar why would he need a fraud specializing in selling drugs
very happy to see Max in this video. i'm a huge fan
I honestly prefer these kind of "how they did it" everyday lives over wars and armies
Yes, thoroughly enjoyed it! Very interesting, looking forward to the next post!
The mayo (aeoli!) can be as simple as whole eggs, oil, salt and vinegar, with some elbow grease. I love a burger with it.
Aioli is with garlic too
@@gerard8203 Can be. It's a fancy name for mayo with no real distinction (I did the research on it a few years back).
@@jansenart0 no offense. It literally means "garlic and oil" in catalan "all" and "oli". Aioli (or Alloli) without garlic is not aioli
@@gerard8203 The origin of the word is disputed.
@@jansenart0 yes the origin of mayonnaise is disputed. But "aioli" is what it means and that's simply garlic and oil. There's no way to deny that, you just can't
It's awesome that you collaborated with Max again. Love both your channels 💜
I just need to say that the origins of Mayonaise are spanish and not french, specifically its from an island in the Balearics called Mahón (thats where the name comes from)
The name mayonnaise comes from "moyeunnaise" ("moyeu" being the old French word for "egg yolk").
But the ingredients being so common, i'm sure it was, like beer, discovered independently by many people in the world.
Invicta , it's officially the greatest historian on TH-cam
The next video on making a Roman Pizza ( aside from the ancient focaccia :3 )
I'm really digging these cross over/collaboration episodes. Both you guys and Tasting history did a great job in both your videos. Thanks you both so much for the great content!
I am screaming at the "you need eggs to keep a burger together" line. Slaps of someone who has never made a burger in their life.
Same, absolutely horrible and turned me off from the video and channel quickly quite frankly.
@@AlienFromBeyond Then unfortunately you missed the note around 10:23 which acknowledges that the Romans themselves didn't use eggs as a binder. They preferred breadcrumbs.
@@spaceface124 you don't need either.
Y'all burger purists need to touch grass, it ain't that deep.
i was looking for this comment lmfao. i mean i guess u Could put it in, i guess, but "have to" is pretty fucking strong lol
This is the type of content a time traveler would love.
Not saying I am one. No one ever does. Or can.
What time is it?
Now *this* actually asks real Questions!
As soon as I saw this I thought this be a perfect subject for Tasting History. To think you got Max along.
Me after reading title: **eye rolls** 🙄
Me after pondering it 0.7 seconds: Wait, that's actually a really good question!
Love these collaborations among channels...
Thank so much ever since I saw a kid in king Arthur's court all I've ever wanted was to go bavk in time and open up the first McCaesar's!
A street preacher in a distant town. Gee, wonder who it could be. I absolutely love this channel.
Strangely close to HTME's Ancient hamburger video released just a few hours ago, weird coincidence.
Today's lesson is EAT MORE BURGERS. Jk.... unless?
Invicta is pioneering the ancient fast food craze. :D
Hope y’all make a series’s about food in other countries, because this video is amazing
Fun fact: In the east of Spain, caul fat is still used to wrap minced meat in local traditional dishes, like the figatell in València
Another Invicta and Max Miller crossover video? AWESOME! I'm really enjoying these as the food/culture feels (and tastes) much more real, that our ancient ancestors are actually closer than we think we they were!
Calling them Hamburgers wouldn’t be ITTC compliant.
Well that’s for our usage trade secret & all I’m sure a proper Roman name can be created for them
How about cibum disco panis testudo (cd testudo for short) then one day testudo becomes the slang for a round sandwich on a round bun much like the Mexican torts sandwiches or carni pani testudi (cpt) or disco testudo (dt)
@@grahamparks1645 "panis"
Yes Max Miller again! I’m here for him!!
The Guild of Invicta uses only the finest ingredients, true Roman Hamburguer for true Romans!
!!!!! I just found this channel! Thank you!!!! ...just to let you know, I subbed within 10 seconds. Quality is instantly recognizable.Thank you for the hard work, amazing research and friendly presentation. I'm aware of how hard it is to run a channel.
Lmaooooo I literally got a bunch of ground beef yesterday night, then prepped coals for tonight this morning when I got up before work. I got home and checked my upload feed and you uploaded a burger video great timing but I forgot my Garum xD
Love seeing more Max Miller!
Ah, yes. Step aside, epic historical battles and legendary political figures! The true questions we must ask lie not in you, but in whether we can make a Whopper in the times of antiquity! All shall see the might of the Big Mac, tremble in awe at the magnificence of the Quarter Pounder, and if their gods shall permit them the honor, taste the heavenly double-meat with bacon burger special!
Love seeing videos like these where the animation rises to the level of the fantastic narration. Keep up the good work!
Is this a collab with HTME, or just a REALLY strange coincidence?
I was thinking the same thing lol
Strange coincidence - great minds just think alike sometimes!
@@Callmecel funny, I thought it was some kind of "let's all make Roman burgers collab" for historical themed channels.
@@jasepoag8930 That woulda been neat!
It's just burger day today 😎🍔
Love the video!
One correction I need to make though: Burger pattys don't need egg. Eggs in Burgers are a bit like cream in Carbonara: an easy way to make the dish a lot easier to cook. If you're careful when making them it's absolutley possible to leave the eggs out. I think in one of Gordon Ramsays videos on Burgers he mentions this. It also makes the burgers taste different (a bit more exquisite and fine imo). I can only recomend trying it without eggs.
The most anticipated collab ever.
Hey, idk where you've heard that but you DO NOT put eggs in burger patties. That's what you put in a meatball. Love your channel btw
@@aidenc02 it's a very popular myth amongst food normies, a lot of people taint the patties with egg, breadcrumbs, onion, mustard (yes, I've experienced this), and add the seasonings into the mix before forming the patty - it's madness.
This is certainly true of a modern burger, but in this case, without refrigeration to help the fat keep its structural integrity during grinding and storage, egg mixed in and the caul fat wrap are probably necessary.
You know you can put whatever you want in a burger, right?
@@Trieh I mean, I'm a professional chef with a formal culinary training and over a decade of experience. You don't put egg in the meat. It changes the texture to that of a meatball. You can put whatever you want in a burger, true. But that doesn't mean you should. Burgers patties are just meat. Ideally, 75-80% lean beef. It doesn't need egg to hold it together. Just a hard sear and it'll be fine on its own. You then put whatever you want ON TOP.
@@conorcarolan6238 Nice degrees my dude, try mixing it up sometime, have fun with it.