The idea of honey being a sweetener for the poor to an expensive item with sugar, now, a cheap item is fascinating. Just like lobster going from junk for the poor to a royal treat.
Many other things nowadays like ribs or oxtail. It sucks. The poor depend on it and the rich just take it and hike up the prices until poor people cant access simple food anymore
It's similar to what's happened to bread. In the past, whole grain breads were seen as a food stuff for the poor, while white bread was viewed as food for the wealthy.
No it’s nothing like the lobster situation with the prisoners not even close. people don’t really like honey it’s not a surprise at all that the poor would have had to eat it
Pies are a good way to keep meat edible for longer. Remember there was no refrigeration so it could spoil really fast. Cooking meat in a sealed container (even one made out of pastry) would kill off germs and keep the contents from contamination. Pies could have a shelf life of a few days. Cooked meat sealed in pots with wax covers could keep for weeks. It’s amazing how ingenious our ancestors were.
@@hdmumin-f6k I assert the contrary.Even the most condemnable item offered by any modern fast food franchise is remarkably more apt to be more sanitary and better nutritionally than any food our ancestors ate before 1800's... Speaking from a standpoint of the ignorance of bacteria etc .The stomach poisoning and diarrhea must have been legendary.Just imagine (#1) eating with utensils and off off plates etc that were probably not cleaned properly to begin your meal in the basic sense either.
@@kimberlypatton9634 Your knowledge and the knowledge of those who liked your comment, on nutrition, the nutrients in food, the endocrine disrupting chemicals sprayed on the crops, the lack of fungi in soil to help plants absorb ore nutrients and organic farming methods seem elementary. You talk about bacteria and sanitation like that's even relevant to this particular discussion. Increase your knowledge.
@@hdmumin-f6k it’s really crazy to think about how people could possibly get fat back in these times. Almost seems impossible since everyone was doing hard labor and eating nutritious diets that would build your body and not degrade it like the food of today.
It's both ironic and fascinating how honey went from being a cheap sugar replacement for the peasants to something considered as the pricier form of sweetener these days.
Yeah it's based on the manufacturing process, i think. to produce sugar, there're processes involving purification, crystallization, and centrifugation. at that time, the tools that made it possible to do all that were very limited, so mass production for the masses was a little less possible. in the other hand, to produce honey was a less of a hand than making sugar then. the availability of more natural resources is also influential for harvesting and producing natural products, such as honey and others, than when factories began to be built to produce sugar and other packed industrial materials
@@safirah.maghfiro1008 Indeed, and because producing sugar became so easy, the market was compleely flooded with it in the 1500s and forward. That is also a reason on why it is so cheap.
They weren’t destroying the bees in those days. I’m sure honey was more plentiful then. Nowadays, we have been messing up the environment so much that the poor bees are in danger of extinction
3:00 I have heard that in England and other European countries, started using less and less spices. Because restaurants serving spoiled meat was a real problem. They would spice the meat a lot just so you couldn't notice. So people began favoring those places that had less spices just so they could tell if the food wasn't spoiled. So bland food, became a symbol of fresh food. And that is why several European countries' cuisine is really bland. So hearing that, did not surprise me.
I don't know about spices but another common line of thinking where I'm from is that you "shouldn't eat fish dishes at restaurants with put cream or cheese on the fish" because those things are used to cover the taste of rotten fish/sea food
I never heard that European food is bland but it’s probably because I spent all my life in Europe and no one complains here haha. I don’t like using a lot of spices, adding a lot of salt and strong spices kills the original subtle flavour. It’s like when you don’t eat a lot of sugary stuff and suddenly you realise that plain natural yoghurt is sweet
@@megatron_overlord Oh not all of Europe, some countries such as England cna be pretty bland, whereas French and Italian food isn't. But if you have lived your whole life in Europe, well there isn't much to compare to, to other places in the world where a lot of spices are usde in the food. Such as in several Asian countries, and where I am form, hih is Mexico. Compared to us, Western food can be very very bland. But that is not necessarily a bad thing, several places in Europe use few ingredients and spices, but prioritize the quality of the ingredients. Making the food good despite it barely having any spices in it.
As a Chef that has been managing cooks for 10+yrs, I can't tell you how relatable the phrase "God sends the meat, but the devil sends the cooks." Is. Lmao
@Sean Embry People should be able to order food prepared how every they want. Who really cares? Are you eating it?? I hate all seafood, but that doesn't stop from serving to those that do.
Pompeii had food stalls and quick shops too, so did Ancient Egypt. Its nice to know eating out, and allocating the time spent cooking to others, has always been a thing.
There was also the fact that the poor just didn't have kitchens. Many had to eat outside cos that was the only way they ate. Home was one room, where they could sleep
every now and then I found out that something is completely universal to all people, no matter where they come from or what age they lived in, and it makes me very proud to be a human. being a living, breathing, conscious person sure can be a trip sometimes but knowing that inside, we are all alike and having the same experiences, is strangely comforting.
Fast food should be viewed as what it is, an urban thing. Sure not a thing if you are on a subsistence farm, but in an urban environment? You are too specialized and busy to cook.
This is super interesting! Just one thing: "Anonimo Veneziano" is not the name of a person, it literally means "unknown person from Venice" (we simply don't know who wrote that book) and actually the book is named "Libro di Cucina" (literally "Cook book").
I was a chef and cook for over a decade. These food videos are second to none. I’ve eaten several things in this video, meat pies ( not spoiled), savory waffles: spicy batter topped with meats, cheeses and onions, fried cottage cheese ( it’s not as bad as you think if done right), uncountable fritters from all over the world, funnel cakes in at least 6 different countries and traditional bread bowls with wild game stew. The food, drugs and sex videos are my personal favorites because it’s history you don’t normally get. The topics are delivered in an educational and informed way yet have the perfect amount of humor to balance it out. I’m absolutely hooked on this channel. Thank you for the high quality, professional, educational content. It’s a welcome relief.
Have you ever watched " The Tasting History" channel ? If you haven't, you should pretty sure you would absolutely love it! BTW it's not my channel or anything like that 😂 Take care
Its always fascinating how you manage to break the "long time ago" wall and make medieval or ancient communities feel like close to home. It would be great if history was taught like this. Great video
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k chill not everything has to be high testosterone. Not to mention testosterone would disrupt a lot of womens hormones and cause symptoms similar to PCOS such as infertility, weight gain and male pattern hair growth. Testonerone is really not the issue when it comes to modern food.
@@hdmumin-f6k in what world are sweet pastries not junk food? you are out of your mind. and whats wrong with being effeminate? the real problem is guys pretending to be macho and embodying every negative trait of men and none of the good ones.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@mook_butt8037 Look up Dr. Shanna Swan(Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai)...... She talks about the herbicides and plastic from the environment affecting the human body.
@@sergeymaguire7794 You have to really ruin your diet to have meal less nutritious than back in medieval time with everything you can have accessed today if you're from a developed country, there's a reason why Modern humans tend to be taller and live longer than people from medieval time, it's cheaper and easier to eat healthy now if you choose.
Sugar not only has a great flavor, but sugar is also a really good preservative. People talk about magic ingredients that enhance flavor, and they are pretty much sugar, salt, and maybe MSG
Ironically, the reason why so many monasteries were also breweries was because they considered beer a drink instead of a food during fasting, so they would make them as strong and dense as possible to create "liquid bread" to sustain themselves with.
One thing I remember hearing was that their brew was also weaker a lot of the time, it was partly made to avoid getting sick from drinking dirty water filled with bacteria and parasites
@@MissWinkle555 that's why you see a lot of references to "small beer" or "small ale", compared to "good ale" which would be what we'd expect from a beer.
Back then there typically wasn't any butter used in the pie pastry, so it was very hard. It was just used as a disposable container for the meat rather than something you would eat.
Back then food was simply food. If you could find some food you ate it. It was all good. No junk food. The certain foods are bad tging didn't come until the 70s. Before then 4 out of five Dr's preferred lucky strike cigarettes
@@NB-ir1me depended on your wealth. I am not an expert but from what I have heard the rich would get a side of white bread as that was the most expensive and they would not eat the dark whole wheat bread bowl. I do know the bread bowl truly was just a dish to the wealthy and not what they ate. I would assume it was tossed to compost, pigs, or servants if you had money.
@@SRose-vp6ew You are correct. It was also a popular medical belief then that people of the differing classes had different digestive needs (the more refined breads for the nobility, etc.).
I remember learning that in Victorian London they would put plastor or Paris instead of flour or combine with flour, Borax in milk so people wouldn't notice that the milk has gone bad. And this was the time when bottle feeding was encouraged more than breastmilk so all the bacteria left over from the bottles killing many babies.
Just a note, Medieval London Cook Shops weren't the first. They basically had the same setup in many Roman cities. It doesn't seem likely that the practice held over from Roman Londenium to Medieval London, as the city was all but abandoned by the 6th Century, but maybe somebody's great-great-great-great-grandma remembered? Or maybe it was just a practical, inevitable solution to city living.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k I don't know why you're commenting this on my comment, as it has nothing to do with anything I said. You can just make your own comment...
He didn't say medieval cook shops were the first in the video. Also street food vendors are probably as old as civilization itself. Babylon/Sumerian cities had them too. No one invented them
I bet you the reason bread bowls were so common was cause bread was suoer stale without properly being sealed and/or out in a fridge. So outting soup in it can make it soft again
Considering their version of drinking water was beer and wine, I can't wait to see what types of weird stuff they got cravings for while constantly drunk during the day...
It wasn’t about the alcohol, it was that in their time they couldn’t trust the water. Parasites, sewage, disease, vermin, etc, all of these things contaminated the water, so yes alcohol was considered a safe and healthy alternative to water, also the alcohol content was quite low at the time.
In New Zealand, meat pies are still the big mac when you don't want a big mac. Steak, chesse and bacon pie is absolutely amazing. Especially if you get a good gravey.
Bro these days buying a pie is about as expensive as buying a big mac. I'm sad, bakerys used to be where u get cheap food now I've seen pies for like $4 or $5
We could always make our own pies right? We could make them and leave them on the side for 2/3 weeks, then eat them to get a taste of medievil food. Spoilt, rotten, rancid, mouldy meat pie. Imagine if that was the only option lol
Ancient Rome had take-out, too. There were thousands of street-side fast food joints that people frequented every day because their "apartments" didn't have a stove or running water. Sometimes the fast-food places just served 3 or 4 items but they were very busy all of the time. And they served wine.
Also, the trenchers and pie crusts weren’t usually eaten. To their customs, it would almost be the equivalent of one of us eating our plates with the meal!
@@dragon12234 No the poor didnt eat it. The pastry they used was gross and hard, and was actually just used to transport food around. Usually you would buy or make a pie, and take it to the fields and eat it around lunch time
Trenchers weren't just bowls, they were also giant bits of flat-bread that substituted plates. Often used during feasts. Funny thing though, the nobles often didn't eat the trencher, in fact it was considered rude and uncouth because the bread would all be collected at the end of the meal and served as alms to the poor. So, all the juices, drippings, and bits of extra food would soak into the bread, adding a bit more savory flavor to the trencher bread....Since it wasn't very well flavored.
They give out moldy fruit and potatoes at our food bank and then tell us to be grateful to get anything at all. The attitude towards those dependent on charity has changed little, apparently. Last time I checked you're supposed to avoid eating mold...
That was a neat factoid about the pretzels. I was playing Trails of Cold Steel 2 and there was a side mission involving making a handmade pretzel and offering it to a holy shrine, and thought it was super obscure that it was something that the nun from the church wanted to do (she needed help getting ingredients).I had a total "Ah ha!" moment just now and now it makes sense, cool.
As a former Waffle House employee, my boss Ms. Marty would like a word with you about unclean food practices. That was the LAST thing she would tolerate, I was damned proud of working for a woman that followed rules/laws so stringently, and happy as a bug in a rug to do 2nd shift prep where she stared down my shirt to make damn sure everything was right and correct. I'd rather get it done right than done quick.
I remember once on a road trip stopping at a waffle house in the shady part of town. There was graffiti and beer bottles in the parking lot. What I hope was dog poop and baby diapers. It looked nasty on the outside. But on the inside. It was immaculate! Clean unlike any waffle house I've ever seen before. There was a little lady and she was hustling cleaning and telling people to clean up but her voice was sweet and she was kind. And that was the best food.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k that's cool and all but i prefer everything today rather than everything in the past where people died at the ages of 0-35 despite all natural food and the very scarce usage of -cides and artificial product that meat stew bread bowl was hitting though i love it when they are heavy with peas
@@ridiculousinstigator7490 no, the life expectancy is distorted because of the high infant mortality rate. If you make it past childhood, you've got a good long life ahead of you, even in medievel Europe
3:00 for those thinking they hide rotten meat with a lot of spice, remember they sell spice at the price pf gold, so if you could afdord spice, you could afford better meal
4:10 bakeries at my village still do this, im talking 2020s europe, my great grandma even had her baking trays engraved with her family symbol so they wouldnt get stolen at the bakers
Food tastes better with honey. Honey is sweeter than sugar and dont have to use a whole lot of it. And actually replace everything in your diet with honey instead of sugar you gonna feel better mentally,and physically.. i went two years with out sugar. What a big difference!
I really appreciate the great lengths this channel goes to to put together such great videos. Specifically the artwork and photographs they use. Some of which may have been buried to antiquity otherwise. The narrator is also pretty epic 👍🏻
Note: medieval beer was absolutely NOTHING like modern beer. The modern lager only came to be in the late fourteenth century/early fifteenth century (and it's not until the adoption of the Reinheitsgebot that what we would today recognise as a pale or amber beer would come to be, in early sixteenth century Germany), and due to the brewing process and the usage of certain spices, beer and ale of the medieval period was considerably... well, chunky, and higher in calorie content. Across central and northern Europe, during times of Lent, many monks went on a diet consisting of beer, and nothing else, thanks to the fact beers were highly nutritious back then. This is how the famous Trappist beers came to be - brewed by monks back in the day, and now brewed with the supervision of monks from Trappist monasteries.
"Trappist beer is brewed by Trappist monks. Thirteen Trappist monasteries-six in Belgium, two in the Netherlands, and one each in Austria, Italy, England, France, and Spain-currently produce beer,[1] but the Authentic Trappist Product label is assigned by the International Trappist Association (ITA) to just ten breweries which meet their strict criteria. As of 2021, Achel is no longer recognized as a Trappist brewery because it does not have any living monks.[2]" zeh german? wo?
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
Well... "S.O.S." or "Sh*t On a Shingle" was popular (at least, in the U.S. Navy) at the time... Funny enough, they didn't seem to ever stop serving it... If you'd like a taste, it's basically just a serving of Toast covered in Hamburger Gravy... relatively cheap and quick and easy, and in surprisingly short order, you can get a sizeable group of people adequately fed and on their feet for the first half a day... ;o)
Surprising how many of these foods we still eat today…I was expecting a lot of odd sounding things I’ve never heard of…definitely love funnel cake and hot pretzels 😌❤️
Bread bowls actually is a genius idea as it lessen the need of plates, which you need to clean after using it.... And also bread bowls can be eaten, hence additional bulk to the meal. It could also be fed to livestock if not eaten.... And also since bread is biodegradable, you could use it as part of the compost...
@@allwinpaul747 I think if the bread is baked enough for it to have a thick layer of outer crust and considering that ovens of that era doesn't have the specific way to control the temperature that low, medium and high heat, its possible for those bread bowls to have a charred bottom
I believe this channel may have covered this already or perhaps it was another history channel… but sugar being added to the diets is what started the issue of dental decay. before sugar, people actually had quite decent teeth considering, but after sugar it all went to hell because modern dentistry did not exist! they were actually better off eating grains, legumes, and the occasional meat. and we still have the sugar problem today,
Both sugar and certain kinds of grain are acidic, so it's not a big surprise if people start losing teeth when it's in almost everyone's diet in some way or another.
I can relate. I have gone weeks without brushing and felt fine if I was eating very clean. Start eating sugar or certain meat that gets stuck in my teeth, within a day my gums can become sensitive.
@@starlight0002 You have to take things into account such as their general health, what foods they were eating, if they had cracked teeth from rocks in their food, etc. Generally speaking eating non-sugary foods and drinking water will go a long way to good dental health, maybe even better than brushing often.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k There's some truth to what you're saying, and I wasn't going to say anything at first, but copy/pasting the same stuff in 60 different comment replies doesn't seem very sane to me..
The beer drank in medival europe was not only a safe alternative to water,wich was often full of potentioally dangerous microbes but also had a very low alcohol content compared to modern european beer
I was in Portsmouth all last week and a little shop sold welks,mussels,cockles,prawns and crab.After my pints id walk into this shop and order a little pot with some vinegar and eat it on the way home.Always felt like a peasant on his way home from the tavern😂
In ancient Rome people would buy a hamburger made of meat and pine nuts sizzling on a metal grill. It was very hot and people who were poor lived on the hottest 3rd floor of buildings where it was stifling and you did not want to cook on hot days. Like they said cooking fuels and a hearth was not common. So it was a walk up. I've seen food travel shows showing street food in Asia and very smartly on hot days people just go walk around in cooler evenings and buy food out.
If you think about it the US has only existed for about 246 years really not that long. Keep in mind the Middle Ages spanned 1000 years before it fell and got replaced.
In Michigan the old time miners ate (PASTIES) it was basically a beef & vegetable stew baked in a turn over pie shell..Delicious & Easy to transport in their lunch box
Many miners in 1800's America came from places like Cornwall in England and Silesia in Germany (Now Poland). They brought their cuisine and food items from Europe with them. Cornish pasties are still popular in the UK. Doughnuts and strudels are still popular in Germany and Eastern Europe.
These are called pastes in Mexico, and yes, it's basically the same thing. I honestly thought it was just a Mexican thing but apparently it comes from England. Somehow it arrived in Mexico to become semi popular street food, at least in central Mexico.. Very interesting
WOW! Just wow! I never realized that so many of my country's national dishes are in fact medieval! We have the soup served in a loaf of bread called cesnačka v bochníku... and then we have the funnel cake called trdelník (comes with many toppings, including ice cream)
I like foods like meat pies (fresh!), soft yeast-raised giant pretzels and funnel cakes. Speaking of meat pies, I'm also crazy about Jamaican beef patties and Mexican empanadas. I often wonder when and where in Europe bagels were "invented". For me, a former New Yorker, there's nothing like a toasted authentic bagel with melted butter for breakfast. It's amazing I don't have a weight problem.😁
I don't think bagels were invented in Europe? I live in Europe and they seem like a distinctly American and relatively modern invention to me. But that's just my association, so take it with a grain of salt.
I went to Wikipedia and that’s what I found: The earliest known mention of a boiled-then-baked ring-shaped bread can be found in a 13th-century Arabic cookbook, where they are referred to as ka'ak.[4] Today, bagels are widely associated with Ashkenazi Jews from the 17th century; it was first mentioned in 1610 in Jewish community ordinances in Kraków, Poland.[5] Bagel-like bread known as obwarzanek was common earlier in Poland as seen in royal family accounts from 1394
A side note people in the middle and dark ages also drank beer because there was not a ton of fresh water and it was difficult to keep fresh. Ask the British Navy when they made Grog.
Eh, if you had a well nearby you had plenty of drinkable fresh water. It's keeping stagnant water around for long times that was dangerous. Wheras well water is filtered by the earth
The citizens of Rome lived in tenement housing and could not cook in their little apartments. So almost all meals were in "fast food" stalls in the local market.
junk food and fast food were a thing long before the middle ages. Pompeii had what could be considered fast food restaurants and street vendors who sold food stuffs. ancient Egypt and ancient China also had hotel/restaurant establishments and food vendors with their carts. it all existed long before the middle ages
But this video isn’t about the earliest forms of these establishments. It’s about medieval times, lol. Why are so many people up in arms as though at any point this video claimed that any of this started in medieval times? Look at the title, watch the video. It’s about medieval times 🤦🏼♀️ Y’all are so damn weird.
@@JennRighter because misinformed people will assume that stuff like this started in the medieval period rather than from the prior eras. Of course that thought didn't cross your mind because you didn't use it properly
Italian here, great video! Just a small note:Anonimo Veneziano is NOT an author, ot means "anonymous man from Venice" A LOT of medieval recepies still comes in surface today here in italy, where beer was not the first consumed alchol. It was wine. About the "sugarness", you also forgot "cream". Butter+milk, sometimes with eggs. Belive it or not, that was a sweet.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
Meat pies are a staple of Aussie food society. We have a large meat pie for dinner on Saturday night. U don't just get meat pies u get so many different types of pies now like chicken, lamb, pork, bacon & cheese etc etc etc. There's no town in Australia that doesn't have at least 2 pie shops & u take them to go hot!
I don't know if it's just because I like history so much recently but your whole channel is like clickbait with actual answers to the clickbait it's pretty cool
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
Love for you to do a story on the scientist who tested canned goods in the Victorian era and eventually got laws enacted to protect consumers. He had a group of students that he would test foods with regularly and they would get sick repeatedly. Took him 10 years to get laws enacted. I’m sorry I don’t have his name
This gentleman confirms what I wrote here : yank people are so simple spirits that who makes or writes a joke must add LMAO to indicate where they have to laugh at.
The medieval meat pie survived in Cornwall and came over to Michigan with Cornish miners. When it is made well it is addictive - the crust should be positively greasy with lard and the meat filling should not be ground but chopped or in small pieces.
The Cornish pasty is still popular in the former industrial parts of England - the North and Midlands . It's good to hear that it's still going across the Atlantic. The presence of vegetables or potato is a contentious issue: do you put carrots in yours?
The honey they used back then wasn't nearly as processed as some of the honey we have today. To me, that's makes a more delicious, and healthier, decadent dessert.
I swear The honey they make in the USA is most definitely pure sugar nowadays ……if you’ve had real honey it is very thick! I get it straight from Mount Hood out of the forest from Honey farmers!
I like Cornish pasties. Beef stew in a crust. Back when the miners used them, the first part was the meat, and the last part was a dessert. Both in one pie crust.
During Lent or on Friday people in the Middle Ages ate fish but they got around this by eating Beaver meat or sea birds like Puffins which because they were partly aquatic were classified as fish by the church
I'll bet that the junk food of medieval times was less unhealthy than today's junk food for these reasons: 1. FD&C colors, flavoring chemicals, hydrogenated oils, and high fructose corn syrup hadn't been invented yet. 2. Sugar and vegetable seed oils were much scarcer and more expensive in those days.
You know in Europe and Canada their not allowed to use food color's or any of that fructose/corn syrup it's actually a law. Only in America it's allowed we have no law against it UNLESS you shop at AlDI's everything they sell there must follow by European rule because it's a German based market they have expanded out here in the states so if you want to know what it is like to eat like a modern European then shop at ALDI's👍🤗 Also shop organic as often as possible and side by side the ingredients on a organic product vs it's non organic product you will see a huge difference because one is made what it's supposed to be made with while the other has thing's added in their you can't even pronounce🤦 -Mercy(sorry for the name confusion i am on my dad's phone at the moment)
Depends on how decomposed it was. Bear in mind, people still die from food poisoning if it's bad enough, and before antibiotics were available it was a lot more likely to happen Edit: Also, there really wasn't any legal ramifications for cutting your flour with sawdust or plaster, or any number of other additives, so there's also a distinct possibility that your pie crust may contain building materials, which isn't great for your health either. A slight exception was medieval Germany, which had very harsh punishments if you got busted putting things that weren't on the approved list of beer additives into your beer. That was just beer though, I don't think they had any guidelines for other foods I'm afraid
While I agree the things you cite are questionable as to their healthiness, your assertion that their diet from this time period was somehow healthier is nonsensicle. Often, food was scarce and famine among the poor was frequent. Food contamination was a huge issue. One if the #1 killers in human history (and continues to this day) is diarrhea, often from food (chlorea was another major culprit). Unethical food sellers/manufacturers would cut their wares with sawdust, wood ash and other things to increase profits. This continued right until the 20th century, and why organizations like the FDA were eventually created. The rhyme "please porridge hot" probably originated in the late middle to early renaissance ages, the history of peas porridge isn't particularly appetizing.
@@jolenethiessen357 No, food was not scarce and famine was a rare occurrence. You are talking out of your ass. People WERE healthier, and peasants ate better than 99% of people today. Constant healthy diet of salmon, eggs, bacon, fresh bread, pottage, all very healthy.
I'm kind of disappointed that with four novels, five movies and a TV show that feature Hannibal Lecter, the saying, "God sends the meat, but the Devil sends the cooks." wasn't used even once.
Don't forget that what we consider fish today and what was considered fish in medieval Europe are quite different things, beaver for instance was considered a type of fish
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
The idea of honey being a sweetener for the poor to an expensive item with sugar, now, a cheap item is fascinating. Just like lobster going from junk for the poor to a royal treat.
Many other things nowadays like ribs or oxtail. It sucks. The poor depend on it and the rich just take it and hike up the prices until poor people cant access simple food anymore
It's similar to what's happened to bread. In the past, whole grain breads were seen as a food stuff for the poor, while white bread was viewed as food for the wealthy.
Same goes with alot of things, bicycles, homemade food, home grown food, fish, having horses vs car
Eat the rich problem solved
No it’s nothing like the lobster situation with the prisoners not even close. people don’t really like honey it’s not a surprise at all that the poor would have had to eat it
Pies are a good way to keep meat edible for longer. Remember there was no refrigeration so it could spoil really fast. Cooking meat in a sealed container (even one made out of pastry) would kill off germs and keep the contents from contamination. Pies could have a shelf life of a few days. Cooked meat sealed in pots with wax covers could keep for weeks. It’s amazing how ingenious our ancestors were.
Hunger is a great motivator.
@@hdmumin-f6k I assert the contrary.Even the most condemnable item offered by any modern fast food franchise is remarkably more apt to be more sanitary and better nutritionally than any food our ancestors ate before 1800's... Speaking from a standpoint of the ignorance of bacteria etc .The stomach poisoning and diarrhea must have been legendary.Just imagine (#1) eating with utensils and off off plates etc that were probably not cleaned properly to begin your meal in the basic sense either.
Thanks for the info, Deborah.
@@kimberlypatton9634 Your knowledge and the knowledge of those who liked your comment, on nutrition, the nutrients in food, the endocrine disrupting chemicals sprayed on the crops, the lack of fungi in soil to help plants absorb ore nutrients and organic farming methods seem elementary. You talk about bacteria and sanitation like that's even relevant to this particular discussion. Increase your knowledge.
@@hdmumin-f6k it’s really crazy to think about how people could possibly get fat back in these times. Almost seems impossible since everyone was doing hard labor and eating nutritious diets that would build your body and not degrade it like the food of today.
It's both ironic and fascinating how honey went from being a cheap sugar replacement for the peasants to something considered as the pricier form of sweetener these days.
it reversed!
Yeah it's based on the manufacturing process, i think. to produce sugar, there're processes involving purification, crystallization, and centrifugation. at that time, the tools that made it possible to do all that were very limited, so mass production for the masses was a little less possible. in the other hand, to produce honey was a less of a hand than making sugar then. the availability of more natural resources is also influential for harvesting and producing natural products, such as honey and others, than when factories began to be built to produce sugar and other packed industrial materials
@@safirah.maghfiro1008 Indeed, and because producing sugar became so easy, the market was compleely flooded with it in the 1500s and forward. That is also a reason on why it is so cheap.
They weren’t destroying the bees in those days. I’m sure honey was more plentiful then. Nowadays, we have been messing up the environment so much that the poor bees are in danger of extinction
Happened with many things, like lobster for example.
Because people's taste changes for many reasons.
3:00 I have heard that in England and other European countries, started using less and less spices. Because restaurants serving spoiled meat was a real problem. They would spice the meat a lot just so you couldn't notice. So people began favoring those places that had less spices just so they could tell if the food wasn't spoiled. So bland food, became a symbol of fresh food. And that is why several European countries' cuisine is really bland.
So hearing that, did not surprise me.
I don't know about spices but another common line of thinking where I'm from is that you "shouldn't eat fish dishes at restaurants with put cream or cheese on the fish" because those things are used to cover the taste of rotten fish/sea food
I never heard that European food is bland but it’s probably because I spent all my life in Europe and no one complains here haha. I don’t like using a lot of spices, adding a lot of salt and strong spices kills the original subtle flavour. It’s like when you don’t eat a lot of sugary stuff and suddenly you realise that plain natural yoghurt is sweet
@@megatron_overlord Oh not all of Europe, some countries such as England cna be pretty bland, whereas French and Italian food isn't.
But if you have lived your whole life in Europe, well there isn't much to compare to, to other places in the world where a lot of spices are usde in the food. Such as in several Asian countries, and where I am form, hih is Mexico. Compared to us, Western food can be very very bland.
But that is not necessarily a bad thing, several places in Europe use few ingredients and spices, but prioritize the quality of the ingredients. Making the food good despite it barely having any spices in it.
@@megatron_overlord I'm from Brasil and here we spice everything. It enhances flavors.
spice during that time are very very expensive, only nobles & kings could afford it
Bread bowls are the best thing to come out of the Medieval ages
not mad at soft pretzels either
Nah its cheesecake
Funnel cakes and waffles for me
All these
I would say Pepsi.
Fun fact, pretzels were such a huge part of the medieval diet in Europe, the symbol of the bakers guild was actually a pretzel.
a lot of bakeries still have a pretzel on their signs :) many bakeries and bread companies in denmark have a crowned pretzel as part of their logos
As a Chef that has been managing cooks for 10+yrs, I can't tell you how relatable the phrase "God sends the meat, but the devil sends the cooks." Is. Lmao
Eating should be done in silence, lest the windpipe open before the gullet, and life be in danger
I'm a cook a very clean one... Even some chefs over worked for had me like dude wtf 🤢
I’m not a professional chef just an amateur one but definitely heard it
@Sean Embry People should be able to order food prepared how every they want. Who really cares? Are you eating it?? I hate all seafood, but that doesn't stop from serving to those that do.
@@DarkGodSeti you've never worked in a kitchen and it shows
Pompeii had food stalls and quick shops too, so did Ancient Egypt. Its nice to know eating out, and allocating the time spent cooking to others, has always been a thing.
There was also the fact that the poor just didn't have kitchens. Many had to eat outside cos that was the only way they ate.
Home was one room, where they could sleep
Most people here in Asia still eat at cheap food stalls
every now and then I found out that something is completely universal to all people, no matter where they come from or what age they lived in, and it makes me very proud to be a human. being a living, breathing, conscious person sure can be a trip sometimes but knowing that inside, we are all alike and having the same experiences, is strangely comforting.
People have always had to have food
Fast food should be viewed as what it is, an urban thing.
Sure not a thing if you are on a subsistence farm, but in an urban environment? You are too specialized and busy to cook.
This is super interesting!
Just one thing: "Anonimo Veneziano" is not the name of a person, it literally means "unknown person from Venice" (we simply don't know who wrote that book) and actually the book is named "Libro di Cucina" (literally "Cook book").
hello where are u from
@@pedrollex3308Neptune 👽👽
@@glizzygobbler2971 Eat a dong
first generic brand cook book
Lmao I love that.
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I was a chef and cook for over a decade. These food videos are second to none.
I’ve eaten several things in this video, meat pies ( not spoiled), savory waffles: spicy batter topped with meats, cheeses and onions, fried cottage cheese ( it’s not as bad as you think if done right), uncountable fritters from all over the world, funnel cakes in at least 6 different countries and traditional bread bowls with wild game stew. The food, drugs and sex videos are my personal favorites because it’s history you don’t normally get. The topics are delivered in an educational and informed way yet have the perfect amount of humor to balance it out. I’m absolutely hooked on this channel. Thank you for the high quality, professional, educational content. It’s a welcome relief.
Mm sounds like you have eaten a lot of tasty foods!
yes but do take many things said on this channel with a grain of salt, as its more entertainment than history.
Have you ever watched " The Tasting History" channel ? If you haven't, you should pretty sure you would absolutely love it! BTW it's not my channel or anything like that 😂 Take care
There's a reason why you are an unemployed chef. It's a wonder that your still with us. Your heart is one goat brain burger away from disaster.
I'm a stay at home mom and have made many of these items. Am I special?
Its always fascinating how you manage to break the "long time ago" wall and make medieval or ancient communities feel like close to home. It would be great if history was taught like this. Great video
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k sweet pastries are junk food, though. And did you miss the part where they were serving rotten meat?
@@hdmumin-f6k chill not everything has to be high testosterone. Not to mention testosterone would disrupt a lot of womens hormones and cause symptoms similar to PCOS such as infertility, weight gain and male pattern hair growth. Testonerone is really not the issue when it comes to modern food.
@@hdmumin-f6k in what world are sweet pastries not junk food? you are out of your mind. and whats wrong with being effeminate? the real problem is guys pretending to be macho and embodying every negative trait of men and none of the good ones.
@@meepmoop2308 Don't reply to this guy, he's just spamming in the replies of most comments.
Bruh, my diet has made me so constantly hungry that a video on freaking medieval fast food is enough to get me drooling...
fix your diet 👍
Fantastic idea you did good pointing out the obvious.@@hrehbebdbnwuc
Big back
Take out has been dated back to as early as ancient Rome and has been recorded in many sites at Pompeii well preserved.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k
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@@hdmumin-f6k [credible citation needed] for “herbicides, fungicides, and other endocrine disrupting chemicals”
@@hdmumin-f6k relax a little, the degenerate youth might find their way. they’re kids.
@@mook_butt8037 Look up Dr. Shanna Swan(Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai)...... She talks about the herbicides and plastic from the environment affecting the human body.
The moment when you realized Medieval Junk Food is actually more nutritious than what you regularly eat now. :)
Aside from the decaying meat and various stuff added to the flour to make it cheaper
@@sergeymaguire7794 You have to really ruin your diet to have meal less nutritious than back in medieval time with everything you can have accessed today if you're from a developed country, there's a reason why Modern humans tend to be taller and live longer than people from medieval time, it's cheaper and easier to eat healthy now if you choose.
I wouldn’t smile about that if I were you. Horrible decision making and self-respect.
Pepsi during medevil times is not healthy but good
I won't lie, I haven't had a home cooked meal in about 2 weeks. I've been living off fast food only
Sugar not only has a great flavor, but sugar is also a really good preservative. People talk about magic ingredients that enhance flavor, and they are pretty much sugar, salt, and maybe MSG
Don’t forget fat. It adds so much to umami, mouthfeel, and overall texture of your food
Ironically, the reason why so many monasteries were also breweries was because they considered beer a drink instead of a food during fasting, so they would make them as strong and dense as possible to create "liquid bread" to sustain themselves with.
Sounds like cheating. Lol
One thing I remember hearing was that their brew was also weaker a lot of the time, it was partly made to avoid getting sick from drinking dirty water filled with bacteria and parasites
@@MissWinkle555 that's why you see a lot of references to "small beer" or "small ale", compared to "good ale" which would be what we'd expect from a beer.
Beer back then needed to be chewed before you swallow it
no its because they were the sole land owners
yall daft or smth?
Back then there typically wasn't any butter used in the pie pastry, so it was very hard. It was just used as a disposable container for the meat rather than something you would eat.
tell that to my fatass, id still eat it.
They still ate it, it's was similar to hardtack , very tuff
Back then food was simply food. If you could find some food you ate it. It was all good. No junk food. The certain foods are bad tging didn't come until the 70s. Before then 4 out of five Dr's preferred lucky strike cigarettes
@@NB-ir1me depended on your wealth. I am not an expert but from what I have heard the rich would get a side of white bread as that was the most expensive and they would not eat the dark whole wheat bread bowl. I do know the bread bowl truly was just a dish to the wealthy and not what they ate. I would assume it was tossed to compost, pigs, or servants if you had money.
@@SRose-vp6ew You are correct. It was also a popular medical belief then that people of the differing classes had different digestive needs (the more refined breads for the nobility, etc.).
2:21 I think her milkshakes brought all the peasants to the hearths.
I can't imagine the food poisoning, sour stomach, and indigestion folks endured back then, especially with no antacids.
Or antibiotics. You stood a very real chance of dying from foodborne illnesses back then
I remember learning that in Victorian London they would put plastor or Paris instead of flour or combine with flour, Borax in milk so people wouldn't notice that the milk has gone bad. And this was the time when bottle feeding was encouraged more than breastmilk so all the bacteria left over from the bottles killing many babies.
All exaggerated, wouldn't be that bad
Remember everyone had a reputation to protect. Word spread quickly. If you were a dodgy cook or shop, everyone would know and everyone would avoid you
I’ve never taken antacids nor any indigestion medicine. I suppose they handled it like I do
Just a note, Medieval London Cook Shops weren't the first. They basically had the same setup in many Roman cities. It doesn't seem likely that the practice held over from Roman Londenium to Medieval London, as the city was all but abandoned by the 6th Century, but maybe somebody's great-great-great-great-grandma remembered? Or maybe it was just a practical, inevitable solution to city living.
A lot of the housing in cities didn't have a kitchen unless you were wealthy. People just picked up food when they could.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k I don't know why you're commenting this on my comment, as it has nothing to do with anything I said. You can just make your own comment...
@@sarahcoleman5269 Dude above is commenting on a lot of comments. He is just an internet troll and I only found out after I replied once to him.
He didn't say medieval cook shops were the first in the video. Also street food vendors are probably as old as civilization itself. Babylon/Sumerian cities had them too. No one invented them
I bet you the reason bread bowls were so common was cause bread was suoer stale without properly being sealed and/or out in a fridge. So outting soup in it can make it soft again
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Considering their version of drinking water was beer and wine, I can't wait to see what types of weird stuff they got cravings for while constantly drunk during the day...
Hard to get drunk on less than 1% alcohol beer. But I guess they tried their best
It wasn’t about the alcohol, it was that in their time they couldn’t trust the water. Parasites, sewage, disease, vermin, etc, all of these things contaminated the water, so yes alcohol was considered a safe and healthy alternative to water, also the alcohol content was quite low at the time.
@@johnpijano4786 And wine. Both. That said, if you drink 1% beer like we do water, you'll definitely be tipsy most of the day.
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@@nickd3157 You don't say. And here I thought that everybody, even children, were just hopeless alcoholics in those days 😉
In New Zealand, meat pies are still the big mac when you don't want a big mac. Steak, chesse and bacon pie is absolutely amazing. Especially if you get a good gravey.
Bro these days buying a pie is about as expensive as buying a big mac. I'm sad, bakerys used to be where u get cheap food now I've seen pies for like $4 or $5
We could always make our own pies right?
We could make them and leave them on the side for 2/3 weeks, then eat them to get a taste of medievil food.
Spoilt, rotten, rancid, mouldy meat pie.
Imagine if that was the only option lol
@@oddbloochicken it's saddening
Cheese pie sounds good
@@oddbloochicken Brah, nope. If you're in New Zealand, Couplands my bro. $2.90 a pie. Big Maca like 8 bucks. Probably more hha
I am seriously addicted to these types of videos lol
Ancient Rome had take-out, too. There were thousands of street-side fast food joints that people frequented every day because their "apartments" didn't have a stove or running water. Sometimes the fast-food places just served 3 or 4 items but they were very busy all of the time. And they served wine.
RIPPLE?
Also, the trenchers and pie crusts weren’t usually eaten. To their customs, it would almost be the equivalent of one of us eating our plates with the meal!
Yep.scraps for the hounds under the tables.
Really? Interesting!
Well it depends. The wealthy wouldn't eat it, but rather give it to their servants or pets, but the poor would.
@@dragon12234 No the poor didnt eat it. The pastry they used was gross and hard, and was actually just used to transport food around. Usually you would buy or make a pie, and take it to the fields and eat it around lunch time
@@megajimmyfive given the sort of "inventions" we make today, sooner or later someone is going to patent "grain-based biodegradable edible bowls"
It blew my mind starting at 10:00 when it gave a recipe that included saffron, but used honey instead of refined sugar to save money.
Trenchers weren't just bowls, they were also giant bits of flat-bread that substituted plates. Often used during feasts. Funny thing though, the nobles often didn't eat the trencher, in fact it was considered rude and uncouth because the bread would all be collected at the end of the meal and served as alms to the poor. So, all the juices, drippings, and bits of extra food would soak into the bread, adding a bit more savory flavor to the trencher bread....Since it wasn't very well flavored.
Gross
Here have our scraps. Lol
They give out moldy fruit and potatoes at our food bank and then tell us to be grateful to get anything at all. The attitude towards those dependent on charity has changed little, apparently. Last time I checked you're supposed to avoid eating mold...
That was a neat factoid about the pretzels. I was playing Trails of Cold Steel 2 and there was a side mission involving making a handmade pretzel and offering it to a holy shrine, and thought it was super obscure that it was something that the nun from the church wanted to do (she needed help getting ingredients).I had a total "Ah ha!" moment just now and now it makes sense, cool.
We still eat meat pies here in the UK. Cornish Pasties, especially steak and potato is absolutely lovely
9:25
This man just low-key stated the fact that pop-tarts are a type of ravioli and no one has mentioned it.
As a former Waffle House employee, my boss Ms. Marty would like a word with you about unclean food practices. That was the LAST thing she would tolerate, I was damned proud of working for a woman that followed rules/laws so stringently, and happy as a bug in a rug to do 2nd shift prep where she stared down my shirt to make damn sure everything was right and correct. I'd rather get it done right than done quick.
I remember once on a road trip stopping at a waffle house in the shady part of town.
There was graffiti and beer bottles in the parking lot. What I hope was dog poop and baby diapers.
It looked nasty on the outside. But on the inside.
It was immaculate! Clean unlike any waffle house I've ever seen before.
There was a little lady and she was hustling cleaning and telling people to clean up but her voice was sweet and she was kind. And that was the best food.
Me too at Waffle House
I've never been to a waffle house. Every story I've heard of one, has been negative. This story is the most positive one I've heard yet.
@@layna-heyhey it probably depends on the year. They likely made it a priority one year and now its built into the franchise
@@layna-heyhey Negative is entirely subjective in this instance. If my chef isnt cooking with all their hatred, I dont want it.
Eels were a popular fast-food item in London during this period as well. The Thames was teeming with them apparently.
The meat stew bread bowl had me losing my mind! Heavy on the peas! That looked like heaven!
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k we need to go back.
@@hdmumin-f6k that's cool and all but i prefer everything today rather than everything in the past where people died at the ages of 0-35 despite all natural food and the very scarce usage of -cides and artificial product
that meat stew bread bowl was hitting though i love it when they are heavy with peas
@@hdmumin-f6k least conservative muslim
@@ridiculousinstigator7490 no, the life expectancy is distorted because of the high infant mortality rate. If you make it past childhood, you've got a good long life ahead of you, even in medievel Europe
7:05 "Anonimo Veneziano" is the name of the author (aka Unnamed Venetian). The book's title is simply "Cookbook"
3:00 for those thinking they hide rotten meat with a lot of spice, remember they sell spice at the price pf gold, so if you could afdord spice, you could afford better meal
4:10 bakeries at my village still do this, im talking 2020s europe, my great grandma even had her baking trays engraved with her family symbol so they wouldnt get stolen at the bakers
I be really curious to try a lot of these recipes that substitute honey for sugar
Food tastes better with honey. Honey is sweeter than sugar and dont have to use a whole lot of it. And actually replace everything in your diet with honey instead of sugar you gonna feel better mentally,and physically.. i went two years with out sugar. What a big difference!
Me to.
I should like to add more honey to my diet.
It's a healthier option.
I have been looking for away to bring out the taste of cinnamon without using sugar. Gonna try honey.
You could also use dried fruit as a sugar substitute, that was pretty common.
Pureed medjool or deglett dates are great sugar subs, too
I really appreciate the great lengths this channel goes to to put together such great videos. Specifically the artwork and photographs they use. Some of which may have been buried to antiquity otherwise. The narrator is also pretty epic 👍🏻
This channel has quickly become my replacement for the OG History Channel. Love it.
Same here. I miss Modern Marvels and Ancient Discoveries. Good times.
Learning really is wasted on the Youth. I'm 42 and I love learning way more than I did in my 20s.
Pie shops sounded like a gauntlet of risking latrine explosions for the sake of not starving.
A Medieval Cook Shop...that is an amazing idea.
It's a winner.
Thank you for the video, very fascinating and helpful.
i would 100% go to a restaurant that served nothing but medieval food
@@seraphik I think it would be an awesome experience!
It's funny how a lot of peasant food ended up becoming some of the most popular good, some even becoming high end food.
Note: medieval beer was absolutely NOTHING like modern beer. The modern lager only came to be in the late fourteenth century/early fifteenth century (and it's not until the adoption of the Reinheitsgebot that what we would today recognise as a pale or amber beer would come to be, in early sixteenth century Germany), and due to the brewing process and the usage of certain spices, beer and ale of the medieval period was considerably... well, chunky, and higher in calorie content. Across central and northern Europe, during times of Lent, many monks went on a diet consisting of beer, and nothing else, thanks to the fact beers were highly nutritious back then. This is how the famous Trappist beers came to be - brewed by monks back in the day, and now brewed with the supervision of monks from Trappist monasteries.
Wait. What? Your 1st two sentences...
germany didnt exist in 16th century, SCHADE DEUTSCHALND try again after reading a book
"Trappist beer is brewed by Trappist monks. Thirteen Trappist monasteries-six in Belgium, two in the Netherlands, and one each in Austria, Italy, England, France, and Spain-currently produce beer,[1] but the Authentic Trappist Product label is assigned by the International Trappist Association (ITA) to just ten breweries which meet their strict criteria. As of 2021, Achel is no longer recognized as a Trappist brewery because it does not have any living monks.[2]"
zeh german? wo?
oldest brewery is still in modern day belgium
I'd like to see you guys do a video about food during ww2, specifically comparing the combat rations of the major armies.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k why you copy paste your comment in random comments, she not denying anything, she's asking for a WW2 video my guy
@@hdmumin-f6k Farm-troll
Steve1989MREInfo has a good channel for old mres and he unboxes them.
Well... "S.O.S." or "Sh*t On a Shingle" was popular (at least, in the U.S. Navy) at the time... Funny enough, they didn't seem to ever stop serving it...
If you'd like a taste, it's basically just a serving of Toast covered in Hamburger Gravy... relatively cheap and quick and easy, and in surprisingly short order, you can get a sizeable group of people adequately fed and on their feet for the first half a day... ;o)
Surprising how many of these foods we still eat today…I was expecting a lot of odd sounding things I’ve never heard of…definitely love funnel cake and hot pretzels 😌❤️
and a tasty pastel con carne
They found a twinkie that dates back to medieval times , IT STILL LOOKS FINE
I was thinking of funnel cake just yesterday lol
Ahahhaa twinkies
think about that next time you compalin about white colonialism
5:16 - Those expressions are killing me lol.
Bread bowls actually is a genius idea as it lessen the need of plates, which you need to clean after using it.... And also bread bowls can be eaten, hence additional bulk to the meal. It could also be fed to livestock if not eaten.... And also since bread is biodegradable, you could use it as part of the compost...
You still need a plate to serve bread bowl
Most didn't eat the bread or pie crust. They were just containers for the road and your right would just be thrown once used.
@@allwinpaul747 I think if the bread is baked enough for it to have a thick layer of outer crust and considering that ovens of that era doesn't have the specific way to control the temperature that low, medium and high heat, its possible for those bread bowls to have a charred bottom
@@hyperbunnygirl101 The crust yes, but the insides they're used as thickener for soups, so technically you have eaten the bread itself....
why the fuck did you think those periods needed to be ellipses?
I believe this channel may have covered this already or perhaps it was another history channel…
but sugar being added to the diets is what started the issue of dental decay.
before sugar, people actually had quite decent teeth considering, but after sugar it all went to hell because modern dentistry did not exist!
they were actually better off eating grains, legumes, and the occasional meat.
and we still have the sugar problem today,
I thought the issues started with grains?
@@pupasarus grains lead to wear and tear grinding down the teeth, but sugar actually rots them.
Both sugar and certain kinds of grain are acidic, so it's not a big surprise if people start losing teeth when it's in almost everyone's diet in some way or another.
I can relate. I have gone weeks without brushing and felt fine if I was eating very clean. Start eating sugar or certain meat that gets stuck in my teeth, within a day my gums can become sensitive.
@@starlight0002 You have to take things into account such as their general health, what foods they were eating, if they had cracked teeth from rocks in their food, etc. Generally speaking eating non-sugary foods and drinking water will go a long way to good dental health, maybe even better than brushing often.
You seem to have so much fun making this video. That, alone, is worth the subscription.
As always y’all make interesting history videos with a side of quirky humor. I enjoy it every time.
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
You don't seem all there mentally yourself, Dahir Hussein. Take your medication and get off the internet for a few days.
@@GoingNorthObv Is the truth too much to bear?
@@hdmumin-f6k yeahhhhhhhh mamnnnnnn, you tell these silly soyboys what's going on uhhhsuttin
@@hdmumin-f6k There's some truth to what you're saying, and I wasn't going to say anything at first, but copy/pasting the same stuff in 60 different comment replies doesn't seem very sane to me..
The beer drank in medival europe was not only a safe alternative to water,wich was often full of potentioally dangerous microbes but also had a very low alcohol content compared to modern european beer
I was in Portsmouth all last week and a little shop sold welks,mussels,cockles,prawns and crab.After my pints id walk into this shop and order a little pot with some vinegar and eat it on the way home.Always felt like a peasant on his way home from the tavern😂
I love this channel! This has got to be one of my favorites yet. Such a weird history! Absolutely fascinating
In ancient Rome people would buy a hamburger made of meat and pine nuts sizzling on a metal grill. It was very hot and people who were poor lived on the hottest 3rd floor of buildings where it was stifling and you did not want to cook on hot days. Like they said cooking fuels and a hearth was not common. So it was a walk up. I've seen food travel shows showing street food in Asia and very smartly on hot days people just go walk around in cooler evenings and buy food out.
One of my favorite eoisodes so far!
This channel is the best & the fact that Stephen Colbert hosts it is even better!!!!
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I love the dry humor on this channel. Makes me laugh out loud sometimes 🤣
I have no idea if this channel is at all "scholarly", but I definitely enjoy the writing and narration! Thanks guys! Dave J
its not
If you think about it the US has only existed for about 246 years really not that long. Keep in mind the Middle Ages spanned 1000 years before it fell and got replaced.
It won't exist for much longer if you vote Harris in
In Michigan the old time miners ate (PASTIES) it was basically a beef & vegetable stew baked in a turn over pie shell..Delicious & Easy to transport in their lunch box
I love pasties
I am a yooper. Still love the pasties !
In England they're called Cornish Pasties. Apparently the turned edging acted as the handle, so not to dirty your food with coal covered hands
Many miners in 1800's America came from places like Cornwall in England and Silesia in Germany (Now Poland). They brought their cuisine and food items from Europe with them. Cornish pasties are still popular in the UK. Doughnuts and strudels are still popular in Germany and Eastern Europe.
These are called pastes in Mexico, and yes, it's basically the same thing. I honestly thought it was just a Mexican thing but apparently it comes from England. Somehow it arrived in Mexico to become semi popular street food, at least in central Mexico.. Very interesting
Nothing like diseased meat pie to relax and enjoy the day
So that's why Donkey in Shrek loved waffles. In medieval times it was the new baddie! I love waffles too. Thank you Dark Ages!
WOW! Just wow! I never realized that so many of my country's national dishes are in fact medieval! We have the soup served in a loaf of bread called cesnačka v bochníku... and then we have the funnel cake called trdelník (comes with many toppings, including ice cream)
I like foods like meat pies (fresh!), soft yeast-raised giant pretzels and funnel cakes. Speaking of meat pies, I'm also crazy about Jamaican beef patties and Mexican empanadas. I often wonder when and where in Europe bagels were "invented". For me, a former New Yorker, there's nothing like a toasted authentic bagel with melted butter for breakfast. It's amazing I don't have a weight problem.😁
Empanadas and beef patties soooo delicious!
I don't think bagels were invented in Europe? I live in Europe and they seem like a distinctly American and relatively modern invention to me. But that's just my association, so take it with a grain of salt.
Mmmmm normal food that isn't rotten to the core
Bagels are a completely American invention to my knowledge
I went to Wikipedia and that’s what I found: The earliest known mention of a boiled-then-baked ring-shaped bread can be found in a 13th-century Arabic cookbook, where they are referred to as ka'ak.[4] Today, bagels are widely associated with Ashkenazi Jews from the 17th century; it was first mentioned in 1610 in Jewish community ordinances in Kraków, Poland.[5] Bagel-like bread known as obwarzanek was common earlier in Poland as seen in royal family accounts from 1394
Omg I'm loving your channel❤
Legend also has it that the ice cream machine was still broken.
Lmao!!! Best comment ever and no one noticed
A side note people in the middle and dark ages also drank beer because there was not a ton of fresh water and it was difficult to keep fresh. Ask the British Navy when they made Grog.
Eh, if you had a well nearby you had plenty of drinkable fresh water. It's keeping stagnant water around for long times that was dangerous. Wheras well water is filtered by the earth
1:38 Damn these mfs were open 24/7 through the black plague but walmart shut down at like 6 pm through covid.
The citizens of Rome lived in tenement housing and could not cook in their little apartments. So almost all meals were in "fast food" stalls in the local market.
Bakery culture is very much alive in Europe, especially Germany..
Pretzels are still available in every bakery in Germany
Why is this my voice in your AI German version? Where did you get the voice from.
junk food and fast food were a thing long before the middle ages. Pompeii had what could be considered fast food restaurants and street vendors who sold food stuffs. ancient Egypt and ancient China also had hotel/restaurant establishments and food vendors with their carts. it all existed long before the middle ages
But this video isn’t about the earliest forms of these establishments. It’s about medieval times, lol. Why are so many people up in arms as though at any point this video claimed that any of this started in medieval times? Look at the title, watch the video. It’s about medieval times 🤦🏼♀️ Y’all are so damn weird.
@@JennRighter because misinformed people will assume that stuff like this started in the medieval period rather than from the prior eras. Of course that thought didn't cross your mind because you didn't use it properly
South Africa has its own version of bread bowls called bunny chows, a hollowed out half loaf of bread filled with stew.
thats european as can be, because south africa was european
Zurek ( a west slavic soup made of soured rye flour and boiled meat ) is still sometimes served in a bread bowl here in Poland.
Sounds like gourmet
The main reason they drank alcoholic beverages was because the water was usually contaminated. Most, if not all, dumped their bedpans in the streets.
Fun fact: Evidence of street food takeout places were discovered in Pompeii. Even the Romans had junk food.
Italian here, great video!
Just a small note:Anonimo Veneziano is NOT an author, ot means "anonymous man from Venice"
A LOT of medieval recepies still comes in surface today here in italy, where beer was not the first consumed alchol. It was wine.
About the "sugarness", you also forgot "cream". Butter+milk, sometimes with eggs. Belive it or not, that was a sweet.
I love how educational this is with some comedic elements! Great narrator and writers! Music is amazing! Love this channel!
I prefer mrs Lovett's meat pie, eating them feels like I'm eating something people like, I'm just trying to decide between shepard or lawyer
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
That bloody dog is always getting under your feet.
You prefer Mrs Lovett meat pie huh? Does your wife or boyfriend know about this?
I mean I know I would probably get food poisoning, but going to a cooks row in medieval Europe and scarfing down a bread bowl sounds fun as hell.
The non-sweet sweet most definitely was a major factor in Greece's downfall. I'm positive all historians agree on this.
Meat pies are a staple of Aussie food society. We have a large meat pie for dinner on Saturday night. U don't just get meat pies u get so many different types of pies now like chicken, lamb, pork, bacon & cheese etc etc etc. There's no town in Australia that doesn't have at least 2 pie shops & u take them to go hot!
I don't know if it's just because I like history so much recently but your whole channel is like clickbait with actual answers to the clickbait it's pretty cool
This just made me crave a pretzel with jalapeño cheese 🤤
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k that was so extra😐
@@hdmumin-f6k yeah man sorry that’s extra af.
Oh no, that sounds good! 😁😋😋😋
@@hdmumin-f6k
Okay, soy boy.
Love for you to do a story on the scientist who tested canned goods in the Victorian era and eventually got laws enacted to protect consumers. He had a group of students that he would test foods with regularly and they would get sick repeatedly. Took him 10 years to get laws enacted. I’m sorry I don’t have his name
the fact of thinking about food is insane
The origin of the waffle and the sheer influence the Catholic church had on food is honestly really interesting.
"If you cover your plate of fish and vegetables with enough sugar, eventually it tastes just like sugar ..." I laughed my ass off.
This gentleman confirms what I wrote here : yank people are so simple spirits that who makes or writes a joke must add LMAO to indicate where they have to laugh at.
The medieval meat pie survived in Cornwall and came over to Michigan with Cornish miners. When it is made well it is addictive - the crust should be positively greasy with lard and the meat filling should not be ground but chopped or in small pieces.
The Cornish pasty is still popular in the former industrial parts of England - the North and Midlands . It's good to hear that it's still going across the Atlantic. The presence of vegetables or potato is a contentious issue: do you put carrots in yours?
@@marcowen1506 Carrots are for rabbits not mining men.
The honey they used back then wasn't nearly as processed as some of the honey we have today. To me, that's makes a more delicious, and healthier, decadent dessert.
Don’t use “decadent” do describe dessert. You sound like a dove chocolate commercial.
@@rm2kking they can use whatever words they want lmao
I swear The honey they make in the USA is most definitely pure sugar nowadays ……if you’ve had real honey it is very thick! I get it straight from Mount Hood out of the forest from Honey farmers!
@@finessinhearts yaaasss slay
@@rm2kking Hey man, how's Moonglum doing these days?
I like Cornish pasties. Beef stew in a crust. Back when the miners used them, the first part was the meat, and the last part was a dessert. Both in one pie crust.
I low key watched this late at night so my brain is all scrambled
During Lent or on Friday people in the Middle Ages ate fish but they got around this by eating Beaver meat or sea birds like Puffins which because they were partly aquatic were classified as fish by the church
Dolphins were also considered fish and eaten during medieval times believe it or not
I'll bet that the junk food of medieval times was less unhealthy than today's junk food for these reasons:
1. FD&C colors, flavoring chemicals, hydrogenated oils, and high fructose corn syrup hadn't been invented yet.
2. Sugar and vegetable seed oils were much scarcer and more expensive in those days.
You know in Europe and Canada their not allowed to use food color's or any of that fructose/corn syrup it's actually a law. Only in America it's allowed we have no law against it UNLESS you shop at AlDI's everything they sell there must follow by European rule because it's a German based market they have expanded out here in the states so if you want to know what it is like to eat like a modern European then shop at ALDI's👍🤗 Also shop organic as often as possible and side by side the ingredients on a organic product vs it's non organic product you will see a huge difference because one is made what it's supposed to be made with while the other has thing's added in their you can't even pronounce🤦 -Mercy(sorry for the name confusion i am on my dad's phone at the moment)
Depends on how decomposed it was. Bear in mind, people still die from food poisoning if it's bad enough, and before antibiotics were available it was a lot more likely to happen
Edit: Also, there really wasn't any legal ramifications for cutting your flour with sawdust or plaster, or any number of other additives, so there's also a distinct possibility that your pie crust may contain building materials, which isn't great for your health either. A slight exception was medieval Germany, which had very harsh punishments if you got busted putting things that weren't on the approved list of beer additives into your beer. That was just beer though, I don't think they had any guidelines for other foods I'm afraid
While I agree the things you cite are questionable as to their healthiness, your assertion that their diet from this time period was somehow healthier is nonsensicle. Often, food was scarce and famine among the poor was frequent. Food contamination was a huge issue. One if the #1 killers in human history (and continues to this day) is diarrhea, often from food (chlorea was another major culprit). Unethical food sellers/manufacturers would cut their wares with sawdust, wood ash and other things to increase profits. This continued right until the 20th century, and why organizations like the FDA were eventually created. The rhyme "please porridge hot" probably originated in the late middle to early renaissance ages, the history of peas porridge isn't particularly appetizing.
Only Americans use that shit
@@jolenethiessen357 No, food was not scarce and famine was a rare occurrence. You are talking out of your ass. People WERE healthier, and peasants ate better than 99% of people today. Constant healthy diet of salmon, eggs, bacon, fresh bread, pottage, all very healthy.
7:05 the name of the book is “Libro di Cucina” (lit. “Cookbook”). “Anonimo Veneziano” means “unknown Venetian author”.
I'm kind of disappointed that with four novels, five movies and a TV show that feature Hannibal Lecter, the saying, "God sends the meat, but the Devil sends the cooks." wasn't used even once.
I know....sheeesh
As a Greek I can 100% confirm that not making waffles sweet lead to our downfall. :/ Sadge.
some of these medieval desserts sound good - and honey would make them even better instead of regular sugar. And yea...meat pies are wonderful
Don't forget that what we consider fish today and what was considered fish in medieval Europe are quite different things, beaver for instance was considered a type of fish
None of these are 'Junk Food' by today's standard. They are mainly just sweet pastries and the like, and even though you could say it's not necessarily healthy, the grain used was much more nutrient dense than today, there were no herbicides, fungicides and other endocrine disrupting chemicals used on the crops today. The food of a medieval peasant was not comparable (far superior) to that of the modern, low testosterone, effeminate, 'Tik-Tok-using, Minecraft-playing, 'alphabet-community sympathising', mental-health issue-suffering, degenerate and lost youth of today.
@@hdmumin-f6k A lot of the food back then was heavily adulterated. Bread could have plaster in it, for example.
@@bean420man next time ill put plaster in my bread, sounds inventive. thanks for the idea
Water rodent a fish ?
@@hdmumin-f6k On the downside the grain was often contaminated with poisonous weeds and fungi which isn't healthy, either.