48V "Roypow" DIY Lithium Golf Cart Battery: Get rid of lead acid today!
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Sadly these are sold at certified dealers of roypow only. You can email them for direct or specialty orders. Roypow does sell some other smaller batteries below:
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@@starbirthcalamity 😁👍🏻
I was just about to rant about why manufacturers don't list prices on their websites when I read this.
Good video, that said, whatever happened to the long-term testing of the military-grade flexible solar panel that was mounted to the roof of the golf cart?
@@__WJK__ yeah it's still working. Need to test output during summer. It charges up nicely still. No issues at all. Need to make video on those
Love your teardowns, always educational and informational! Thanks Will.
Will, your videos are so entertaining. I love how even though you're an expert and have been doing this for years, you still get so much joy out of something like your golf cart moving on battery power. I can't imagine you didn't think it would work, so the fact it made you so happy was just awesome.
I just LOVE how excited you get with simple design surprises. And I really appreciate this video, because I own 2 golf carts. Thanks!
I love it when you love it! You're like a kid in a toy store. It's great when a product is made so well!! Thank you for the video!
I love how excited Will gets about the little things 👍😀
Love how happy you are when you opened it up it made me happy thank you
Impressive build quality, love to see more of these, thanks for showing
I just like watching your technically oriented videos. Your curiosity is infectious. With year-round sunshine, I can see myself building a small portable solar unit to keep the groceries cold in the event of any power outage. Thanks, Will.
I did this last winter, built a 1kwh battery pack that can run both fridges in a power outage, its a pretty cheap project, you should do it. 2 100w panels, a battery of your choice, and a solar controller and inverter. If you do it on a hand truck there are quite a few videos on making a quick and easy one using integrated Controller/inverters and a rackmount battery (5kwh). Just be sure to use a 20amp power strip when you wire up AC.
We have installed a few hundred of these into golf carts. They have gotten a little better over time. The smaller packs are barely good enough really depending on driving conditions ie. Anything with real hills and they can’t handle the inrush current. The one you are installing is their high output. The high outputs so far have been pretty reliable.
I think you are right. This is because its continuous discharge current is not big enough. Just imagine, with 4 big guys and other things loaded on the golf cart with this battery, driving uphill, it will probably stop working and the meter display remaining power could be up to 25%. And take a look at the connection panels between cells and other joints, it is alluminum alloy, instead of copper, it means that it is not for high working current at all. I have to say, it is beautiful but it is not the best.
Disappointed to see that they are only currently offering the 24v 80Ah units for sale. I'm assuming they are just out of stock. The unit in the video here is what I want for my Cushman truckster.
@@TheGorf cool another cushman truckster owner. Mine is a 91 with a 22 hp omc built twin using propane fuel, it was used in a plant for maintenance. These things are built extremely well and built to last, mine has almost 5200 hours and still runs great.
Any interests in 48v30ah battery in GC2 size? Max support 10 units in parallel connection.@@TheGorf
Do you wanna experience latest 48v30ah in GC2 size LFP battery for replacing Trojan T125 lead acid battery? It can support 10 units in parallel connection, reach 300ah
THIS is what I’ve been wanting to see. I’d love to see more traction batteries. Eco Battery is another popular brand that gets good reviews.
nice. I've been running the same battery (105aH) in my cart since may of 2021 with no issues. I turned regen off via my alltrax controller so don't use the resistor. I still get 3-4 rounds of golf out of the pack. Also just installed a 48 volt forced air heater and doors for winter golfing :-)
Don't care if it's long and boring but it's always good to have reliable information and real world testing 👍👍👍
Damn it man. Now you make me want a golf cart. Awesome explanation on the current draw.
I bought some “Sapphion U-Charge” LiFePo4 batteries for my Polaris Ranger EV about 8-years ago. It was 4x12v cells instead of the 8x6v stock set up, and just required reprogramming of the original onboard charger and purchasing a very expensive “CAN-bus” solenoid. They look exactly like deep cycle batteries. I’m still getting 35-40 miles per charge compared to the 45-50 miles when they were new. The lead-acid batteries were weak by the time I got it but they were supposed to be good for 45-miles on flat ground when fresh (it was down to 4 or 5). Best purchase I’ve ever made for that thing.
Awesome video .... Details are fantastic! Learning a lot.....
If Will taught a class I'd drive to him and take it.
Ditto.
Ditto
This is great. I don't golf, but I always wanted to shoot skeet on the golf balls flying around, but shotguns are so loud and you get caught. If this could generate lightning or power a laser weapon, that would be much harder to prosecute. Looks like a great battery. Roy ... POW!
Love the vids and the info.
That brake resistor seems very interesting. Hope you talk more about it in future videos. Was pretty entertaining to watch and would love to see more EV vehicles you may have.
I am more and more impressed with RoyPow the more they are on the market.
My favorite channel
Nice battery for a future zero turn and garden tractor conversion. Also have in mind converting my small boat to electric when the old outboard finally dies.
Those RoyPow seem great. Their marine battery is very competitively priced too.
Love the scruff look! Keep it up brother!
Well done young man.
Binged you channel this weekend, thinking of building my own 72v eve 230ah cart battery. Thanks for your vids.
I may be picking your brain about how to handle regen and bms
Great battery! Nice seat covers.
You are the best DIY guy, thank you
Great job on the video Will! Thanks for making it. You mentioned Surron, any chance you might pick one up to showcase on the channel? I am really into the idea because with dirt bikes, the barrier of entry that is maintenance and upgrades prevents a lot of us from pulling the trigger. With electric, there isn't really any maintenance and they're so easy to customize that it really makes it a lot easier to et into the hobby. Someday I hope to buy one and paint it to match my 4runner and get a hitch-mounted bike carrier so that when we go off-roading, my wife can drive (she's a better off-road driver than I am since she pretty much does it for a living) and I can zip around her on the bike to get some rad video footage. If you're thinking about it, there is another Vegas TH-camr called Vegas RoManiac you might want to reach out to. He rigged his to carry double the batteries than a standard model so it gets a tone of range. The aftermarket is insane on them too, with tons of higher power or higher capacity batteries along with all the standard upgrades you can do to a dirt bike. Thanks again for making this video!
I bought my Andersons directly from Powerwerx because of that concern.. glad to see it was worth it 🥳
great video, I am a large dealer for them, never had a bad one in yearssss, I use them for solar too, but mostly for EV
Good to know
Would like a price. It's not available on the purchase link.
Hey there, do you know why RoyPow is saying the 160p 48v golf cart battery can’t be wired in parallel?
Will is the Chuck Norris of off grid power.
Brake resistor has two connectors on the pigtail. Larger ring goes to Brake Resistor terminal post, small 8mm goes to negative. (from Roypow user manual)
I've been surprised you've never messed with escooters. Considering your skillset with batteries and various electric motor devices (drones, buggies) it seems like you could have some fun there.
I had the same problem with Powerpoles several melted with only 6amps going through them, I gave up on them and I use EC5 (120amps) and EC8's (250 amps) they are much better IMO for making solid connections, you do need to solder them though and an EC8 takes a powerful iron to melt enough solder for the wire/connector
You mention how cool it would be to use this battery in a truck to power work tools. Would you please do a video on this type of setup with this battery? Love your channel.
I use powerwerx as my goto source for all things Anderson Powerpole and SB connectors.
Im down here In quartzite for the first time. I need a cart like that here. It would be much better than the noisy side-by-side that people use.
That's the nice thing about the golf carts.
My mom has used one for years, out in the desert (rock hound).
Air down the tires (if you're in sand), and go.
Unfortunately, it still is limited to where you can go, but still wonderful to have just to cruise around quietly.
First I want to say thank you for all the information you share I've learned a lot from your videos and I've come to trust your opinion on a lot of issues surrounding solor power, so I would like to ask your opinion on my plan so you know because of injury's I cant work anymore and I waited to long to try and get social security disability insurance, who knew you'd get screwed by holding off as long as possible before applying for it and so I was denied and ended up only getting SSI which pays less then a thousand a month lol so it's challenging to say the least to afford much for anything I have to move out to my property in Kentucky or lose it and its undeveloped I'm going off-grid and I can't afford to do the normal kind of solor system that most people do , my plan is to do small systems for individual areas of my home and other need such as one system for my bedroom and living room and a separate for my kitchen and bathroom and another for my water pump etc.. so I can build each according to separate needs and if something fails like say my well pump I can barrow say my bedroom power till I can fix the well pump system and I don't lose all my power because I can't afford a new part right away . In a way it's like I'll have a back up if needed it will be priority that decides where the power is supplied. So please any advice would be appreciated if you find some time. Thank you I forgot to add that I'm planning almost every thing I can to be 12v since it's only small systems although I may do 24v for kitchen so I can run a refrigerator or freezer. And we don't watch TV we only use our cell phones / laptop for that
It'd be great for the RV park maintenance guy!!
Eco Battery. Comparable to the Rowpow. They seam to be all the rage. Would love to see the build quality of them.
I went with Raw EVE LF280K and a 250A (which easily exceeds 300A for a bit of time if needed) smart bms. A bit of modding of the battery tray to create flat platform for the pack and a compression setup with water proofed ply and some threaded rods/locking nuts. It has much more range and capable of higher amp draws without going much if any beyond 1C, and it's been working great for months now. I've got so much range I only need to recharge once every 2 or so months, and I've connected a PSW 3kw inverter to power fridges and freezers during power outages. As far as bang for buck goes, there isn't a better option (if you have a bit of time and some tools to do the work, which only requires homeowner stuff).
You are the only other person who I have seen do this. I built one out of 280k cells as well. 24s. It barely fit. I used the jk bms, and I've seen burst of over 370 amps on the app. You have any photos of your setup?
I purchased a 48 Volt 100 amp LifePO4 Battery for to replace lead acid battery pack on a EZGO golf cart. I work fine until i went up a small hill. It then stopped and the battery switched off. I contacted the supplier and they said it was the BMS was not up to the job . They refused to reimburse me and i now stuck with it. Can you recommend a suitable BMS replacement?
thanks
Very informative and interesting video I continue to learn from you thank you for sharing six Stars
Thank you. I have EZ GO 48V golfcart and was not happy with what is on the market for golfcart use. and the price . I have 6 GC8 interstate battery's now and they work great . I do have a big solar panel on top with a boost charger for 48V . I have on board charger but I added a Anderson SB 50 red connector for charging or under 50 amp loads. I would switch to SB 50 Anderson with weather proof cap . I got red type 2 it wont plug into a gray SB 50 I have for 12V. I do not have breaking resistor. May be the lead battery system . my FWD and REV is just a heavy duty switch on motor . I think breaking is done in my controller. it holds speed down hill .For now I stick with lead acid. until I find a LiFePO4 that holds up and cost is down. I get about 5 years on flooded battery's .I got 12V lighting . red led tail lights but auto style head light lamps. They make LED that goes right in same socket. I am is Boston NY ,out winters are rough. would need to insulate LFP battery. Next battery replacement I will check the LFP market. Cost and runtime and pulling a hill or load are factors for me. Thank you for video. Let us know run time on that LFP .
I like it. Any thoughts on how to secure the cart if the battery has a simple on and off?
Ok, I was a lil disappointed that there was not loud, power tools used on the tear down... but I got over it. 😆
😂 not nearly as fun
Nice information
Can you make a video showing how to expand an existing battery system? like adding another module to a server rack battery system.
You mention making a golf cart that can act as a field supply for power tools. John over at Farmcraft101 did just that as he often needs remote power around the farm. Episode title "Converting an Old Golf Cart into a Supercharged Power Plant" published 9/2022.
All my tools are 40v Makita. Even my vacuum, coffee maker, and tea kettle are Makita 40v battery operated. No need for corded tools anymore. Just solar to charge the batteries!
Yeah, I melted some anderson connectors on my ecoflow delta pro. the delta pro uses XT60s on the PV input as well. Shame ECO flow dont offer XT60 12 volt output.
time to make one with the LF inverter and be a service man in the desert for when somebody breaks down, you just created and idea for someone out there and be self reliant 👍
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Hi Will, thank you very much for your constant help to the community. I have one question regarding a Hybrid Inverter (MPP SOLAR) and 48V battery bank with 8 GEL batteries (4+4). one of the batteries charge at a voltage of up to 16.2V (some time during the day). The other ones have normal charging voltage (about 14V max). I know there is an issue with this one battery. My question is should I replace the whole battery bank ? as it will be difficult to find a replacement battery with similar stats (and age). Many thanks
I really enjoy watching your videos, your passion is infectious. Love the golf cart too.
@willprowse is someone using your profile pic ^
yeah baby !
Will, what brand solar panel do you have on your cart. Like the channel, very informative.
You got me again Suron!!!! Lol
I have the RELiON Insight Series GC2 30Ah 48 Volt batteries in my cart. They are the same size as the 6 volt lead acids. They are 100 amp continuous discharge per battery. Would love to see a tear down these batteries.
Please create a Surron series. Endless options for systems upgrades - perfect for DIY people who like to tinker with electronics.
This looks really good. These Allied batteries have an even higher current discharge rate ... any chance you can review these some day ??
Allied "Commercial" 48V Lithium Battery Package 65AH, 105AH and 150AH - Golf and UTV
I want a cart like that :)
I would love to have this battery with this golf cart but with the trailer made in to a tiny home type thing.
Should I use that for my electric pontoon boat project?
That’s awesome. So juicy. Love it
I’d like to see you review a company called eco battery. They are also golf cart specific
Nice
And here I was thinking those battery was lead acid and you would change the cells with lifepo4's. Kinda disappointing but damn, nice ride 🙂👍
Will, I like the scruffy beard and longer hair. It looks good on you. Happy Holidays and New Year!
"I don't know who would do that...." For running power tools from the golf cart.
If you were a rancher, you could run around your ranch in the cart and do whatever chores you need to do with a rig like this.
Yep, that battery can put out enough power to run a small welder which would be perfect for fixing fences and stuff.
I watch "Ross the Oliver Man" videos. He goes around fixing old farm equipment (tractors, plows, combines, rakes, etc.) He has a work truck, but he prefers to use a golf cart on his premises. You wanted a use case for power tools on a golf cart.
Awesomeness Will.
I wonder how the BigBattery Husky 48v would compare. It does have a higher peak discharge of 350 amps but only for 6 seconds and a continuous rating of 130 amps
I love the "Babylon 5" style Logo.
Cool
Can you use it for a food trailer to power a freezer and prep table
Would you recommend this for a house system?
i was in harbor freight a week ago he was looking at hf 100 watt kit little pricy but easy to use for low need. we spoke he lost house from ean and moving into decent size travel trailer. and wants solar rather than gen . we spoke a while i said check you out both video and website especially your older ones with rv trouble is where we live almost all co are installers who only want to sell systems not a few 300-400 panels
You just answered me towards the end
What is the top speed of the golf cart and how much do they cost do they come with a solar or did you add that
Thanks for the review.
Do you maybe know where to buy these type of remote switch separately? Really like them, but don’t know what is their name, how to find them.
Thanks
If it was possible to invent a son like Will he would be it.
Hi Will what's the difference between Golf cart battery and Solar battery are they interchangeable?
Hey will, I noticed the little sticker on the back of your Tesla, do you have some yotsa aswell?
Do you have any videos on Power Queen 12V 100Ah LiFePO4 - looking at using 3 ran in a series for a 36 volt golf cart
Have you ever measured the current draw on the golf cart?
So if they use a contactor instead of fets in the bms, can you series connect two together for 96v?
been running one of these since first of the year. all i need is solar for it. Which video would have the buck converter, solar for the 48v is all i'm missing (already have it for 12v secondary lfp battery in all the new empty space left by the missing 8v anchors)
I'd love a link for that scissor lifter.
When do you think sodium ion batteries will be available for home power ?
What’s the quiescent current keeping that contactor closed?
If all things were otherwise equal would you recommend 1- 300 Ahr li, 2 - 150 Ahr Li or 3 100Ahr li batteries?
EB, Eco Battery, is said to be the best, most reliable, lithium battery in the golf cart community.
11:51 it is the highest voltage cell, or the cell adjacent being fed by said high voltage cell?
I'm wondering whether Will has started seeing the same barber as Shane from 'StuffMadeHere' for a haircut? All joking aside, love these no-nonsense reviews!
😂 I love that guy's work!! And thanks 👍🏻
Would you recommend this for a marine environment?
Will, I have a question about any battery system using contactors instead of FETs... basically, do they use a magnetically-latched contactor, or does the battery have to continuously hold the contactor closed with current from the battery itself? Some implementations like this are NOT good for long periods of no use, where the battery must hold the contactor closed for the slightest current requirement. Mag-latch relays/contactors simply stay in the open or closed state magnetically until the controller commands it to open or close, and this method uses no quiescent (standby) current. Can you speak to that aspect, and in future when you see a contactor system, can you test it somehow for standby current?
The sho nuff powerful batteries are the Eco, Bolt and Skunkworks... all rated for 600 amp burts, 300+ 30s, 200+ continuous
Have you tried making a battery pack from Chevy bolt batteries?
I’ve seen guys on a forum do that