I test drove a diesel wrangler and did 180 miles of city/suburban/highway driving in the Chicago area (roughly 680 ft above sea level) and averaged 32.4 mpg. I’m an average driver, I usually drive about 5-10 over the speed limit. So, I find your average 20 mpg as very interesting...
@@justinsoulier6947 I'm loving the jeep. I've had to use it for work and I'm 3300 miles in on 3 weeks. Up to 28mpg driving it a little faster than I should. I think I could get 30mpg babying it.
Fuel economy isn't JUST about cost. When you go overlanding, you weigh down the vehicle, which decreases fuel economy further. It takes some of the fun out of exploring if you have to get off the back roads and find a gas station every 200 miles. That's worth the upfront cost, IMO.
The power top is really cool if you live in an area that has tropical rain. Bright sunshine the black skies and rain for half an hour then sunny again.
I will NOT take the diesel wrangler to offroad...the diesel engine is much heavier, and all the emission related crap underneath hurts ground clearance a lot
These are truly ridiculous price. I know some say it's worth it.. the running costs on the ecodiesel & the problems with the regen &emissions should give you pause. That's said, most of the low mileage used (and watch how many there are) are rarely the diesel. Many reports of lack of power on higher altitude climbs. Also, lots of complaints about "jeep steering" and major quality issues. When this series came out, they forgot to weld the chasis. The tl used to be the only game in town. That's not the case any longer. Many get one based off nostalgia & then find out it's not what testers say on TH-cam videos. They are expensive and really expensive to keep running. Look for offset crash tests on this model. To make matters worse, jeep just did a big price increase. At $4/ gallon or more + Def I jug every 2500 miles.. think 4 times before plunking 65k and then spend time in the service bay & have peugeot tell you it's$3,500 to replace the Def injector because you used non Mopar Def (even if you haven't) & you'll need a scan tool to run regen whilst it's sitting still because the system says the particulate filter is full when it isn't. THINK LONG TERM
Nice review. I got the Turbo 2.0 the first minute the engine when is warming up is a little loud once you are in the road it feels powerful but I found it quiet ride not mention the start/stop is also almost silence once it re-starts from a stop light!
nice vehicle but not comfortable having no doors to lock be afraid someone mess around the vehicle while somewhere else. power roof sounds great tho. like to hear the engine can't be that loud.
Don't forget the 150 200 oil changes and the def fluid costs. The Jeep wave program gives us 4 oil changes for free. You don't pay the extra 6k to save on fuel (diesel costs more than regular) plus I get a dollar off per gallon for 35 gallons at Kroger. You buy the diesel for the torq and driving experience just like the extra money for the 392.
almost most expensive but not most. most expansive is rubicon extreme recon trim with hemi-v8 with full packs and sky-one-power-roof. which is $85k usd. which is ridiculous. top of the top wrangler should not be more than 50k. base-base should be 25K. mid-trims should be 30-35k and very top 50k.
logical reason..... get mopar 2 inch lift kit..bundeled in with your payment.... get 35s or 37s...... diesels says i dont care....i got 442 lb ft at 1400 rpm dont need to regear just wont care
Not the same engine! This is a new generation of diesel not the one found the Grand Cherokee. You should have done your home work. Your mpg numbers are questionable. Diesels tend to get better mpg as they age.
What are people thoughts about engines? I am interested in a jeep and was leaning towards the V6. The diesel seems good but I was worried about issues with idling etc down the road as it ages. How will the emissions hold up?I also heard the oil changes are up in the $200 range. The V4 also only takes premium? Any thoughts would be helpful.
How do you mean? I have this on my Sahara and it's super nice. You're not supposed to open it at highway speeds (60+), but if it is open when on the highway it's really noisy and windy, like any convertible is. Never did it with rear windows open actually, I doubt it would be quieter, maybe a bit better mileage but the mpg sucks anyway.
It's loud for sure, like any convertible, but I never actually drove it on the highway with the rear windows closed. Only with windows out + doors off.
@@gt3sam193 Bronco has IFS right? How is that beating a solid axle in a trail sense? Which Bronco engine is going to compete with the V8 HEMI? How will Bronco's appearance surpass an iconic look that's been running for 80 years? I'm wondering.
Fyi... the EcoDiesel in the JL is a gen 3 engine. It is the same as the 2020 DS trucks but NOT the same as the previous DT trucks and the Grand Cherokee. It also includes the stupid start/stop crap as well.
The top costs $4k .. BUT the painted hard top costs $2500... So if you like the all one color "G wagon" style look to the jeep its only a $1500 difference. Which is worth noting.
This is not the same 8 speed transmission in the 4 and 6 cylinders. This one comes from Germany and is built to handle the torque. (Just put an order for one today and saw all the dealer info). If you go to the Jeep site and build it, you’ll see the 3 transmission options and the last one is the one only available with this diesel.
Hey man, great vid! I live in Toronto where our winters are comparable to Buffalo’s. If I opt for this Sky One Touch feature, would I need to be concerned about retaining heat in the winter?
Good question. I wasn't able to test this out, but I would think they've engineered it to be at least somewhat efficient when it comes to heat retention? Especially more-so than a regular soft-top. The top on this felt thicker than the regular soft-top canvas, from what I can remember. I'd scan the Jeep forums for answers, I imagine this has been discussed...
Love my Sky One Touch top... main reason I purchased the Wrangler. 2.0 engine has good torque and it never feels slow. Unfortunately reliability has been terrible, towed twice for service in one year. Dealer service experience has been terrible.
@@dylanw987 I had a bad fuse bar which required a tow to the dealer for replacement. Also had a major coolant leak. Again, towed to dealer. Theres a TSB on the leak. You can look it up.
I really love these vehicles having had a TJ back in the early 2000s. I’m looking forward to these becoming more affordable on the used car market. Great review. Take care.
'Important' is a relative term... If I'm already set on buying a Jeep, mileage will most definitely factor into which of the three available engines I choose.
$8k-10k in options right off the bat; hope you negotiated hard. The options are where Jeep gets you. And on some trims, things you'd think are/should be standard, are still an option. How quiet is that top compared to others? - - P.S. The transmission is a $2k upcharge w/the $4k diesel engine ($6k for diesel when the dust settles)
Not my vehicle, so I did zero negotiating. Any yeah options get crazy on this thing. This top is probably the most quiet of the three. Re. the transmission - I hear you but I don't love that "the diesel is actually $6k" argument, because few people are actually cross shopping a gas manual with the diesel. If you were going to get an automatic, you were going to get an automatic, which requires you to pay the $2,000 regardless. Now all that said, I think charging $2k for the automatic just so that you can advertise a lower base price, regardless of powertrain, is kind of scummy here in 2020.
I test drove a diesel wrangler and did 180 miles of city/suburban/highway driving in the Chicago area (roughly 680 ft above sea level) and averaged 32.4 mpg. I’m an average driver, I usually drive about 5-10 over the speed limit. So, I find your average 20 mpg as very interesting...
Driving how you drive you’re gonna get 14 mpg in a regular
I've put 2200 miles on my ecodiesel. Lots of town driving and interstate driving average is 27.8. Mpg
How are you liking the ecodiesel?
@@justinsoulier6947 I'm loving the jeep. I've had to use it for work and I'm 3300 miles in on 3 weeks. Up to 28mpg driving it a little faster than I should. I think I could get 30mpg babying it.
Fuel economy isn't JUST about cost. When you go overlanding, you weigh down the vehicle, which decreases fuel economy further. It takes some of the fun out of exploring if you have to get off the back roads and find a gas station every 200 miles. That's worth the upfront cost, IMO.
Looked at diesel rubicon maintenance cost is really expensive.
Nice review. Another reason for that Diesel engine is for the torque which is better for off roading.
Love that torque
The power top is really cool if you live in an area that has tropical rain. Bright sunshine the black skies and rain for half an hour then sunny again.
How's the road noise with the cloth roof compared to the hard top.
Watching ffom South Africa
I have average 32 mpg. Diesel gets better fuel mileage after 5000 miles
You must drive like a normal person :)
Mine has the Diesel engine and the same top.
I will NOT take the diesel wrangler to offroad...the diesel engine is much heavier, and all the emission related crap underneath hurts ground clearance a lot
These are truly ridiculous price. I know some say it's worth it.. the running costs on the ecodiesel & the problems with the regen &emissions should give you pause. That's said, most of the low mileage used (and watch how many there are) are rarely the diesel. Many reports of lack of power on higher altitude climbs. Also, lots of complaints about "jeep steering" and major quality issues. When this series came out, they forgot to weld the chasis. The tl used to be the only game in town. That's not the case any longer. Many get one based off nostalgia & then find out it's not what testers say on TH-cam videos. They are expensive and really expensive to keep running. Look for offset crash tests on this model. To make matters worse, jeep just did a big price increase. At $4/ gallon or more + Def I jug every 2500 miles.. think 4 times before plunking 65k and then spend time in the service bay & have peugeot tell you it's$3,500 to replace the Def injector because you used non Mopar Def (even if you haven't) & you'll need a scan tool to run regen whilst it's sitting still because the system says the particulate filter is full when it isn't. THINK LONG TERM
Nice review. I got the Turbo 2.0 the first minute the engine when is warming up is a little loud once you are in the road it feels powerful but I found it quiet ride not mention the start/stop is also almost silence once it re-starts from a stop light!
nice vehicle but not comfortable having no doors to lock be afraid someone mess around the vehicle while somewhere else. power roof sounds great tho. like to hear the engine can't be that loud.
It's got a lockable center console storage box, which helps, but I hear you. Not the most secure vehicle.
Don't forget the 150 200 oil changes and the def fluid costs. The Jeep wave program gives us 4 oil changes for free. You don't pay the extra 6k to save on fuel (diesel costs more than regular) plus I get a dollar off per gallon for 35 gallons at Kroger. You buy the diesel for the torq and driving experience just like the extra money for the 392.
waiting for the HEMI.
snore
Same here!
ive had mi diesel for 6 months, and would never go back!! the power is well worth the cost.
almost most expensive but not most. most expansive is rubicon extreme recon trim with hemi-v8 with full packs and sky-one-power-roof. which is $85k usd. which is ridiculous. top of the top wrangler should not be more than 50k. base-base should be 25K. mid-trims should be 30-35k and very top 50k.
Pushed me one step closer to the sky top.
logical reason..... get mopar 2 inch lift kit..bundeled in with your payment.... get 35s or 37s...... diesels says i dont care....i got 442 lb ft at 1400 rpm dont need to regear just wont care
Nice review. Top not worth the 4K to me.
Sky One-Touch is only a $1900 upgrade. Just the diesel is $4k.
Sky one touch is a 4k upgrade over the oem soft top
@@hondamike1 just got one yesterday and it’s 4K for top
@@familiaperez6576 dang y’all paid a lot. When I got mine in Las Vegas it was only $1710 upgrade on my sales order.
I drove it. Its quite and rides nice. Has nice pick up and go. All jeeps are louder than anything you ever drove. You really don't get it.
Not the same engine! This is a new generation of diesel not the one found the Grand Cherokee. You should have done your home work. Your mpg numbers are questionable. Diesels tend to get better mpg as they age.
I did my homework. I got one question wrong.
@@ChrisONeillUSA it happens. No worries.
What are people thoughts about engines? I am interested in a jeep and was leaning towards the V6. The diesel seems good but I was worried about issues with idling etc down the road as it ages. How will the emissions hold up?I also heard the oil changes are up in the $200 range. The V4 also only takes premium? Any thoughts would be helpful.
Just go V6. The turbo I4 is fine too, but they're hard to find.
I own a 2014 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Unlimited and have never gotten the oil changed anywhere else but the dealership and have never paid more than $70.
WHY AMERICA ALL WAYS LATE TO THE GAME. ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS 2.8 DEISAL WRANGLER AN IT CAME IN TWO DOORS
Sweet Ride.😉😉😉😉😉😉
Are you able to fully remove the roof? looks like hardtop
Great evaluation. New sub.
THANK YOU!
Nah!! 👎👎👎 that look terrible!! I would never take the doors off. It looks terrible with that top & back still on!!
What color is this?!
U should get way better mpg my diesel gets 25.6 lifted
How’s accelerating on it? Out of the 3 engine options, I’m looking for one that has best acceleration!
Jealous JKU. 14 MPG with 4.5 lift 35” KM3s and 3.73 gears.
I live in Toronto where is cold and with a lot of snow, is the one touch power top is good for the winter?
How's the road noise with the cloth roof compared to the hard top.
Watching ffom South Africa
No manual
What was that tool you used to put the doors on so quick? Was that a cordless ratchet wrench? Any chance of stripping the threading using that?
It is not the same engine as the ram and the grand Cherokee as they had to change it to fit in the wrangler and updated 70%+ of the parts.
how much did this jeep cost you
Joe Jimenez he said 64k
How was the Sky Top at highway speeds? Specially when it was open but the rear window closed.
How do you mean? I have this on my Sahara and it's super nice. You're not supposed to open it at highway speeds (60+), but if it is open when on the highway it's really
noisy and windy, like any convertible is. Never did it with rear windows open actually, I doubt it would be quieter, maybe a bit better mileage but the mpg sucks anyway.
buckybacker
It's loud for sure, like any convertible, but I never actually drove it on the highway with the rear windows closed. Only with windows out + doors off.
Any leaking issues, mine is leaking within the first week. :(
Wonder if the bronco will have any kind of diesel to complete with the with eco diesel
Nah, no need really, there's hardly a case for the Wrangler diesel. I'm afraid the Bronco will wipe the floor with the Wrangler.
It makes more sense in the gladiator and yeah the bronco is going to beat it in every category
@@ChrisONeillUSA Not in sales if that's what you mean.
@@gt3sam193 Bronco has IFS right? How is that beating a solid axle in a trail sense? Which Bronco engine is going to compete with the V8 HEMI? How will Bronco's appearance surpass an iconic look that's been running for 80 years? I'm wondering.
Great vid-what color is your Jeep?
Excellent review . Thank You
Fyi... the EcoDiesel in the JL is a gen 3 engine. It is the same as the 2020 DS trucks but NOT the same as the previous DT trucks and the Grand Cherokee. It also includes the stupid start/stop crap as well.
Ah I know, I got that part wrong. Thanks for the heads up. That's what I get for assuming.
The top costs $4k .. BUT the painted hard top costs $2500... So if you like the all one color "G wagon" style look to the jeep its only a $1500 difference. Which is worth noting.
This is a very good point that I wish I'd made in the video. When you look at it this way, it's a significantly more compelling option.
This is not the same 8 speed transmission in the 4 and 6 cylinders. This one comes from Germany and is built to handle the torque. (Just put an order for one today and saw all the dealer info). If you go to the Jeep site and build it, you’ll see the 3 transmission options and the last one is the one only available with this diesel.
Good catch - thanks for clarifying.
Hey man, great vid! I live in Toronto where our winters are comparable to Buffalo’s. If I opt for this Sky One Touch feature, would I need to be concerned about retaining heat in the winter?
Good question. I wasn't able to test this out, but I would think they've engineered it to be at least somewhat efficient when it comes to heat retention? Especially more-so than a regular soft-top. The top on this felt thicker than the regular soft-top canvas, from what I can remember. I'd scan the Jeep forums for answers, I imagine this has been discussed...
Love my Sky One Touch top... main reason I purchased the Wrangler. 2.0 engine has good torque and it never feels slow. Unfortunately reliability has been terrible, towed twice for service in one year. Dealer service experience has been terrible.
Were these issues with the 2.0 engine specifically or other issues?
@@dylanw987 I had a bad fuse bar which required a tow to the dealer for replacement. Also had a major coolant leak. Again, towed to dealer. Theres a TSB on the leak. You can look it up.
I really love these vehicles having had a TJ back in the early 2000s. I’m looking forward to these becoming more affordable on the used car market. Great review. Take care.
Thanks!
@@ChrisONeillUSAamazing review! Would you buy the sky one touch if you were buying new again? Any issues?
If mpg is important to you, just don't get a Jeep. My v6 Sahara gets about 16 mpg city, 23 highway.
Interesting, my JL 2.0 turbo on 33's gets 23 city and 27 highway.
'Important' is a relative term... If I'm already set on buying a Jeep, mileage will most definitely factor into which of the three available engines I choose.
$8k-10k in options right off the bat; hope you negotiated hard. The options are where Jeep gets you. And on some trims, things you'd think are/should be standard, are still an option. How quiet is that top compared to others? - - P.S. The transmission is a $2k upcharge w/the $4k diesel engine ($6k for diesel when the dust settles)
Not my vehicle, so I did zero negotiating. Any yeah options get crazy on this thing. This top is probably the most quiet of the three. Re. the transmission - I hear you but I don't love that "the diesel is actually $6k" argument, because few people are actually cross shopping a gas manual with the diesel. If you were going to get an automatic, you were going to get an automatic, which requires you to pay the $2,000 regardless. Now all that said, I think charging $2k for the automatic just so that you can advertise a lower base price, regardless of powertrain, is kind of scummy here in 2020.