+astrophil79 thanks for the comment. Plenty of good stuff to come with the AJH Synth Minimod range, HackMe Vectr, Medic Modules Defibrillator, some west coast synthesis stuff and more drums (the sequencing sound and also patching your own sounds from scratch) in the future issues.
Yeah I'm really interested in the Fracture. Hope to get an 84hp rack dedicated to drums and putting Mutant Machine and Fracture together. Kind of overlooked these bass drum, hi hat, and other specific Hexinverter Mutant modules until now, though. Really digging that bass drum.
These Hexinverter drum modules are some of the only Eurorack units Martin Gore has cited by name in interviews that he uses. It's easy to see why. These are all freaking dope.
Awesome overview of the Mutant drum modules Ben! Makes me want to get a Circadian Rhythms and make a dedicated drum module case! :D btw, what is that metering module on the far left in the beginning of the video. Some kind of VU or voltage meter?
+Waylan Russell yeah having a drum case is great! I've got the Octocontroller, Varigate4 and Corny Rhythm on sequencing duties at the minute which is great. I rotate around the sequencing options a fair bit though.
Definitely WMD Crater for kick/bass drum it is super awesome and really thumps! For clap- love WMD Fracture. Other percussion- Plonk and Noise Engineering Basimilus Iteritas Alter are great.
They really need to come out with nice big touch pads for eurorack drum modules! I mean come on if I am gonna spend a ton of cash on fancy eurorack I want my pads to play drums!
For me its just not worth the cost of entry. Doing drums in modular is way too expensive when we have so many standalone hardware drum machines and samplers. For example someone could buy a roland tr8s used for the price of maybe 2 drum modules and have a serious machine on their hands.
$2,000!? 600 for the machine, 250 for bassdrum, 250 for clap, 250 hihats, 250 for snare, 400 for hot glue Do you know how many sample packs, filters, drums, loops, synths, video games, hookers and food you can buy for that? You can do literally all of this for like $15 and without a mess of wires.
+killax1000 I'm with you man, I can do all this $hit using my current software and hardware in my home recording studio. If you really want to laugh, I have a $3 app on my iPhone6 which will allow you to do just about everything that dude is doing in the video minus the wires AND minus the crazy cost.
would you rather have a 50 MB folder full of premade, low kpbs, samples with limited possibilities, all being made by numbers, OR have a class synth capable of countless possibilities, sounds generated by vibration of electronics, and actual creativity?
In a comparison between an unhindered $2,000 synth setup vs a virtual library of a mere 50MB the synth may come out slightly ahead. But considering even the smallest flash drive the size of your last pinky knuckle has a capacity of 2GB, this comparison is moronic. you can get a 1TB external HDD for about $70. 2000/70=~28.5TB for the price of these synths. Also, the cost per byte ratio gets higher the more TB you get, but I'll ignore that factor. Would I rather have a set of drum synths or 28.5TB of sound data which could probably contain the uncompressed .WAV files of an artists' entire career -or- a drum kit.
These endless "discussions" about software vs analog components are very strange on the former's side, particularly if you treat electronic instruments the same as any instrument, and consider that any software version of an acoustic instrument is still a poor version of the real thing in the hands of someone who knows how to play it. Oddly, I don't come across many software proselytizers who know how to play an acoustic instrument with any competence or knowledge. Perhaps if they took the time to do so, they would recognize some of the inherent sonic depth and UI that playing any real, tactile instrument generates, which is still unmatched by most software (that doesn't take huge amounts of processing power..which at that point, you have a dedicated digital module).
+noreaction Hey, I get that. These analogue circuits really do sound great in the flesh but I can make drums that sound great quickly on a laptop. The beauty of eurorack drums for me though is the opportunity to modulate lots of parameters with control voltage and also a lot the unique sequencing / triggering options the platform offers. I don't think I went into enough detail with that actually. We've got other things planned for future issues that may appeal more so. Cheers for the comment!
+noreaction Sure you can but you cannot modulate them really unless maybe if you using Reaktor or Max. Plus the main fun is...KNOBS! Fuck the mouse bullshit. thats so 2006. :)
..obviously you guys have no idea the difference between analog and digital sounds (computer) or how digital sounds can cancel themselves out in a stereo mix..
@@normdurkin6425 and obviously you don't understand what phase is or how it works. Both digital and analog sounds can cancel themselves out. Neither digital nor analog is superior. Both have pros and cons.
@@VincentsVideoVisions ..I wasn't referring to phase cancelation and I absolutely understand how that works with both analog and digital sounds.. not only that I used to get paid to DJ underground techno from 1996-2001 and would play 2 of the same vinyl record at the same speed then slightly offset them to cancel out the frequencies I did want.. of course this is how noise cancelation works.. what I was actually referring to was that too much digital sounds turn into mush, sound flat and 2 dimensional.. too many analog sounds began to rumble and clash.. perhaps you should read the ridiculous comment I was responding to again before making assumptions..?.. I absolutely use both digital and analog sounds.. in most instances analog bass kicks are superior if used correctly.. anyone who believes that their computer can create analog like sounds is living in a bubble of disinformation.. but that's fine with me because those of us who know have little to no competition..
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I'm not usually interested in drums, but I still appreciate this series a lot.
+astrophil79 thanks for the comment. Plenty of good stuff to come with the AJH Synth Minimod range, HackMe Vectr, Medic Modules Defibrillator, some west coast synthesis stuff and more drums (the sequencing sound and also patching your own sounds from scratch) in the future issues.
I really wish they had the Mutant Machine in a kit!
+Stingray yeah a few people have asked me recently about the Machine kits. Maybe they're coming. We'll see soon enough I guess.
They used to do them - I think HExiverter stopped it as it's easier for the built modused to be smd as they can me machine assembled.
@Alastair Jackson Yep for the people blessed with soldering knowledge haha
20:18 "...to really glue everything together"
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
Just got into modular and drums- love the Mutant Machine but prefer WMD Fracture for radical clap percussion and WMD Crater over Mutant Bass Drum.
Yeah I'm really interested in the Fracture. Hope to get an 84hp rack dedicated to drums and putting Mutant Machine and Fracture together. Kind of overlooked these bass drum, hi hat, and other specific Hexinverter Mutant modules until now, though. Really digging that bass drum.
These Hexinverter drum modules are some of the only Eurorack units Martin Gore has cited by name in interviews that he uses. It's easy to see why. These are all freaking dope.
Really helpful demo again thank you Ben.
Awesome overview of the Mutant drum modules Ben! Makes me want to get a Circadian Rhythms and make a dedicated drum module case! :D btw, what is that metering module on the far left in the beginning of the video. Some kind of VU or voltage meter?
+Sysex|Studio dedicating a case to drums was the smartest thing to my system so far, highly reccomended
+Sysex|Studio I know I'm not Ben, but I figured I'd answer your question - it's the Happy Nerding VU Meter!
+Ian Hoffman cool! Thank you!
+Waylan Russell yeah having a drum case is great! I've got the Octocontroller, Varigate4 and Corny Rhythm on sequencing duties at the minute which is great. I rotate around the sequencing options a fair bit though.
What would you recommend for drum modules in 2020 ?
Definitely WMD Crater for kick/bass drum it is super awesome and really thumps! For clap- love WMD Fracture. Other percussion- Plonk and Noise Engineering Basimilus Iteritas Alter are great.
04:00 Straight "Autechre - Corc" motives from '98
+Randomroutine :)
Nice demo; thank you : -)
+Arthur Stone cheers
How do u trigger these sounds
what reverb you used?
Love that clap.
They really need to come out with nice big touch pads for eurorack drum modules! I mean come on if I am gonna spend a ton of cash on fancy eurorack I want my pads to play drums!
There are some existing modules that can get you close, like Make Noise Pressure Points
@@homeslice1479 I just got Tetrapad that is pretty fun for drum pad.
Nice! Thanks
For me its just not worth the cost of entry. Doing drums in modular is way too expensive when we have so many standalone hardware drum machines and samplers. For example someone could buy a roland tr8s used for the price of maybe 2 drum modules and have a serious machine on their hands.
great !
I just have the Machine but I'm getting great results with it. Used it for all percussion on this track: soundcloud.com/chaosnick/cronopio-matsuri
why no snare?
mutant machine can do snare like sounds ....
I hate hand claps as much as I hate whistles, glass-breaking and any other booger-picking sounds.
..obviously you have never heard banging techno with the TR-909 clap ripping threw the mix..
@@normdurkin6425 yup the band Fluke makes use of clap and cymbals for kicking edm techno beats
$2,000!?
600 for the machine, 250 for bassdrum, 250 for clap, 250 hihats, 250 for snare, 400 for hot glue
Do you know how many sample packs, filters, drums, loops, synths, video games, hookers and food you can buy for that?
You can do literally all of this for like $15 and without a mess of wires.
+killax1000 I'm with you man, I can do all this $hit using my current software and hardware in my home recording studio. If you really want to laugh, I have a $3 app on my iPhone6 which will allow you to do just about everything that dude is doing in the video minus the wires AND minus the crazy cost.
would you rather have a 50 MB folder full of premade, low kpbs, samples with limited possibilities, all being made by numbers, OR have a class synth capable of countless possibilities, sounds generated by vibration of electronics, and actual creativity?
In a comparison between an unhindered $2,000 synth setup vs a virtual library of a mere 50MB the synth may come out slightly ahead. But considering even the smallest flash drive the size of your last pinky knuckle has a capacity of 2GB, this comparison is moronic. you can get a 1TB external HDD for about $70. 2000/70=~28.5TB for the price of these synths. Also, the cost per byte ratio gets higher the more TB you get, but I'll ignore that factor. Would I rather have a set of drum synths or 28.5TB of sound data which could probably contain the uncompressed .WAV files of an artists' entire career -or- a drum kit.
These endless "discussions" about software vs analog components are very strange on the former's side, particularly if you treat electronic instruments the same as any instrument, and consider that any software version of an acoustic instrument is still a poor version of the real thing in the hands of someone who knows how to play it. Oddly, I don't come across many software proselytizers who know how to play an acoustic instrument with any competence or knowledge. Perhaps if they took the time to do so, they would recognize some of the inherent sonic depth and UI that playing any real, tactile instrument generates, which is still unmatched by most software (that doesn't take huge amounts of processing power..which at that point, you have a dedicated digital module).
If you don't want the modules, then don't buy them. Simple, huh?
I can make all these sounds with software synths I have already. Interesting interface, but not for me
+noreaction Hey, I get that. These analogue circuits really do sound great in the flesh but I can make drums that sound great quickly on a laptop. The beauty of eurorack drums for me though is the opportunity to modulate lots of parameters with control voltage and also a lot the unique sequencing / triggering options the platform offers. I don't think I went into enough detail with that actually. We've got other things planned for future issues that may appeal more so. Cheers for the comment!
+noreaction Sure you can but you cannot modulate them really unless maybe if you using Reaktor or Max. Plus the main fun is...KNOBS! Fuck the mouse bullshit. thats so 2006. :)
..obviously you guys have no idea the difference between analog and digital sounds (computer) or how digital sounds can cancel themselves out in a stereo mix..
@@normdurkin6425 and obviously you don't understand what phase is or how it works. Both digital and analog sounds can cancel themselves out. Neither digital nor analog is superior. Both have pros and cons.
@@VincentsVideoVisions ..I wasn't referring to phase cancelation and I absolutely understand how that works with both analog and digital sounds.. not only that I used to get paid to DJ underground techno from 1996-2001 and would play 2 of the same vinyl record at the same speed then slightly offset them to cancel out the frequencies I did want.. of course this is how noise cancelation works.. what I was actually referring to was that too much digital sounds turn into mush, sound flat and 2 dimensional.. too many analog sounds began to rumble and clash.. perhaps you should read the ridiculous comment I was responding to again before making assumptions..?.. I absolutely use both digital and analog sounds.. in most instances analog bass kicks are superior if used correctly.. anyone who believes that their computer can create analog like sounds is living in a bubble of disinformation.. but that's fine with me because those of us who know have little to no competition..
dude. enough of this modular bullshit.
+Carl Jung sick and tired of
+Carl Jung You don't have to watch every video a channel uploads.
If you say so carl
Why?
+Carl Jung Seems like you're voluntarily participating in the modular bullshit.