THE RETURN OF ROGAL DORN! MORE LIKELY NOW THAN EVER?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Hi all Rho here! Today we're talking the Primarch of the Imperial Fists, Rogal Dorn! As we ask if his return has just become more likely than ever before?
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Here before Valrak.
He will find a way to scam you still
as long as you have given him £1 he don't mind
I can smell him running from miles away
Can't stand Varlak. Chapter Master Bawbag more like.
Lol
Rogal: brother I have retur-
Guillaman: take it!!! *throws emperors sword and administrative mountain of papers at him*
The sword? Nah. Now, the papers...
Hahahahaha it's been so long since I laughed out loud on a written joke. I can totally see it happening
Can’t forget TTS’s influence in making Rogal more of a fan favorite
I am fortifying this position
YES.
~Door
Truth!
Screw James for ruining one of if not the best fan made series on TH-cam
This is funny.
Rogal would be the perfect Primarch to return if only to allow Perturabo to be the next traitor to make a move as a result
100% would be perfect.
Very true, it would please both sides
Yeah, I could expect gulliman trying to siege out perturabo from the agripina sector, only to fail miserably, but when all hope for the siege is lost, rogal would return (maybe in centurion armor, maybe not) and win the siege, getting back at perturabo for what happened at the eternal fortress, sending perty back to hell if he is really a demon prince, or killing him once and for all if he isn’t.
Given what they're doing with the throne I think it'll be valcan.
I wanna see a rematch of the iron cage but with the black Templars
GW: *Reintroduces Dorn to the narrative*
Random Imperial Fist: MY FATHER! You've returned to us! How in the name of the Emperor did you survive?!
Dorn: By being dead.............................in pretend
*Meanwhile in the Warp*
Thousands Son: My lord? What is wrong?
Magnus: I just felt a shiver down my body....as if someone, somewhere...just said something incredibly stupid
Love TTS
Dorn and Guilliman would be incredibly hard to beat. Dorn being the greatest amongst the primarchs for his strategic capabilities and his ability to be able to throw down. Pair that with a logistical and governing mind like Guilliman, and youve got a hell of a combo.
Greatest Amongst the loyalist Primarchs*
@@youknowwhosentyou6699 I like how the lion is either forgotten about or excluded from the list of Loyalist primarchs
@@Flight_of_Icarus I ll admit I know very little about Lion' el Johnson, I knew he is a master swordsman and slightly socially awkward that's really all, about him specifically
@@youknowwhosentyou6699 He's also a great strategist, he just adheres to a scorched earth policy a little more than he should. I would argue that the Lion is probably a better duelist than Rogal though.
As far as Dorn is concerned though, Horus specifically called him out as the greatest military commander among his brothers. He held back several traitor legions almost by himself for nearly a decade. Even then, it was only Perturabo with demonic forces (which it's been stated Dorn couldn't properly plan for) that barely broke through. And even then, the Fists would have held out long enough for Guilliman to arrive had the Emperor not gone to face Horus himself. Rogal had essentially gone mad by the time of the iron cage, or it's likely that would have gone very differently. Even with him being mentally broken at that time though, the Fists held out against Perturabo's best and most brilliant trap for quite some time, and that's with them falling into the trap about as hard as possible. Perty is unquestionably the more brilliant of the two I think, but Rogal is the better military strategist.
@@scottphillips8607 it must be Hella poetic irony that perty being the brilliance is the one who waged bloody war. and rogal who could siege better, the one creating cities.
If only their pre-horucy roles were switched...
But that makes sense that way, I couldn't decide who was better at what between those two
We all know that he is alive. He is the Emperors personal teddy bear, making treehouses and fortifying his position.
I am fortifying this comment.
We all know he is still hiding in Centurion Armour and is roaming around the Imperial Palace 😂😂😂
I think if he comes back, he'll be closer to the black templars in mindset than the imperial fists. That would be cool, having a pissed off rogal dorn rocking about screaming at traitors from the top of a rogal dorn battle tank, revving storms teeth all the while.
I like the idea of dorn using the talon of the manperor to replace his missing hand.
Rogal doesn't scream, he finds the perfect moment to tear his enemies apart in one brilliantly calculated, brutal surge of cold rage. Just look at how he killed Alpharius.
@@KaiserAfini It’s been a bad 10k years. A man’s allowed to scream a bit.
@@____________838 But this man has been fortifying his nerves for 10 millenia, and he is still going....do you think he knows how to stop ?
@@KaiserAfini He won’t stop. He can’t stop.
i feel like with all the Lion hints GW will throw us a plot twist and make him last.
After Malice.
Hey that job already went to Fulgrim
Nah it's the missing primarchs being revealed in name coming last lol
This aged like milk
If you're a Rogal Dorn fan, and who isn't, check out Baldermort's videos on him. They're incredible.
It was fast but Rogal's skirmish with a dark powered Kharn was a great example of the vastness between space marines and Primach and it was a set piece of the siege of Terra.
Ooh, new Rogal Dorn video.
Good idea brother, I’ll grab my pain-glove too, though it took my left hand last time!
As a black templar player seeing Dorm back would be amazing might also be interesting to see him come back as a "dredknot" Primarch
He lost a hand, but dreadnought rogal would be awesome
@Vae Victis Ture but he was decapitated and torn to bits bye the second worst legion. (worst being the word bearers ya I said it come get me) and appears to be leafing the legion of the damned
Imagine the templars reaction when Dorn says “you cheeky little shits, you looked at my father saying ‘I am not a fucking god’ and you took that as a ‘i am definitely at god’……..1000 years dungeon”
I want Corvus Corax back sooner than later.
Me too, but its unlikely - GW will try to make a tense reunion so I think it will be Lion, who will see Guilliman almost usurper.
I'd love Corvus to return too, but it feels like they juiced him up into a major end-times character at this point. Probably gonna be a while.
@@redaerf2b414 Wouldn't it make sense to have a pretty low stakes return to keep everyone holding their breath until a big deal like the Lion, Russ, Dorn, or a Lost Primarch show up and completely flip the imperium and/or papa smurf on it's head.
I don't really play physical 40k but wouldn't it also be cool to have a less vanilla legion/war style be represented more like the White Scars' focus on ending things fast on bikes or the raven guard's focus on stealth rather than just try to get into melee...also there are tanks ig.
If he leaves, Lorgar will then be able to leave the tower. Can't have that.
@@WizardFYB they would probably return no one for another several years, because guilliman arc is yet not finished in regards of accepting emperors godhood.
Dorn has spent the last 10.000 years learning to read
Autism is hell. Just ask El’Johnson.
Unexpected Ridiculous reference
In the War of the Beast series, Vulkan said that he would tell Dorn about one of the characters in the story. Which is the previously only cannon bit I knew of that stated Dorn was alive.
That statement could be taken either way because Vulkan wished for a permanent death and he made that statement just before he tackled The Beast into a massive Ork reactor, which seemed to have granted his wish.
@@chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926 but... Vulcan lives!
His Legion are currently on thier own little scavenger hunt for things that are purposely vague that will bring him back to them.... in some purposely vague way....
Dorn has definitely gotten more visibility & shown he’s more than just “guy who builds fortresses & doesn’t like Perterabo”, but that doesn’t really increase the likelihood of him returning anytime soon.
At this point it’s really the Lion or no one in my mind. They’ve been teasing his return since the original Angels of Death codex & GW has been mining all of the nostalgia they can from the lore as of late.
spoiler warning: more than 1 primarch will return in tenth edition.
Agreed
Wish it was Dorn
But it will be the Lion.
Wheras Lion and Guilliman have a lot of unresolved issues around Imperium Secundus..
Much more dramatic
@@matthewheather6911 Yes
But the other will be a Traitor Primarch
@@adrienwatson2179 Nothing more dramatic than mundane exposition faaaather !
When he killed Alpharius (yes Alpha-simps he dead) it was savage, didn't even hesitate.
Unless he is the Yellow King...
Rogal coming back next would make a great dichotomy in how the Imperium would be run. If they could work together, to have Guillamen's logistical expertise helping Dorn's would-be unmatched authority with fortifying a galaxy split in two would be awesome.
Dorn is likelier to be the charismatic figurehead of Guilliman's rule, I think.
Or, alternatively, Guilliman would rule and conduct the offensive wars and Dorn would take the defense of the borders.
Or even Dorn might be sent to fortifiy the Imperium Nihilus
The return of Dorn would be epic, The Pretorian is needed now more than ever!
To be honest, I wish the return of 2 or 3 more. The world sucks at the moment.... Wars, economy, rise of nationalism. Let me have my escapist 40k fun and give me a few primarchs.
@@kccustodes2618 Very true, we have been waiting for the likes of Dorn, The Lion, Corax, Russ and The Khan for a long time!
Very gat
@@nuclearstuff9442 gat ? like a cat in a hat or maybe a rat or even a Pratt ?
@@nuclearstuff9442 My associate says you may of meant 'Very Gay' ironically almost as Gay as spelling Gay as 'gat' lolaynwy thats "laughing out loud at you not with you"
Personally always loved Guilliman and Dorn, but I'm a history fan and know you don't win anything without logistics.
But the walls?
Given that he has just had a tank named after him released, I can see why you'd think something is brewing.
TTS Dorn probably did a lot of heavy lifting in regards to the him gaining popularity in the Zeitgeist, imo.
The Avenging Son is revived
The Lion is sleeping
Dorn may return
The Wolf Times are coming
Cry's in Blood Angel
The Khan rides at inhuman speeds through 'The WebWay' !
@@duppyman9025 I know you mean the Khan but Kharn doing that is much funnier
@@kanalithviper4744 Yeah I spotted that..... funny!
I'm just sitting over here as a scion of Prospero with my primarch back on tabletop for ages.
@@Flight_of_Icarus Yeah, I'm super jelly because Magnus the Red has an awesome model and is a beast on the table top..... 'All is Dust'
I paraphrase "We've never got a news of rogal what so ever"
Rogal: I was hiding by being dead, ... in pretend.
Me"is it me or dose that imperial fist centurion within the imperial palace look familiar"? Imperial fist centurion"noooooooo"
I still play Euro-Truck Simulator sometimes. When I do, because enough time between can often go by to forget, I always get a kick out of realizing I named my character Rogal Dorn all those years ago when I bought it and that I painted all the trucks in his company yellow and black. I've always played it as "the real answer to where he's been all this time," the white haired, wild eyed, almost Santa looking maniac in the avatar picture showing him to have grown a beard and probably a drinking problem. I played it straight, though. If it's my Rogal getting ready to return the Imperium is saved, mark my words, because while he's been hiding out to follow his true dreams on the open road that guy has been running his trucking company like a well oiled machine.
Lorewise the Imperial Fists are probably the only 1st Founding chapter to have been outshone by their successors. The Black Templars clearly taing centerstage as the most noteworthy of Rogal's sons. Everyone likes the Crimson Fists too, thanks to humble old me of course. Three of the best 40K novels, Helsreach, Rynn's World and Legion of the Damned, are centered around Imperial Fist successors. Sadly, the Imperial Fists have fallen a bit by the way side in that regard. That and a reputation for being kinda Ultramarine-y, with a fetish for pain, doesn't help.
Very true
Difficult to top Sigismund and Alexis Polux as chapter masters and their legacies.
My thoughts is if Dorn comes back, it would be to pull Guilliman out of a suicidal fight with a returned Fulgrim like how the latter pulled the former out of a suicidal battle with Perturabo
Now that would be an awesome moment, especially as he beat Fulgrim one on one as well which you know Fulgrim is salty about.
@@gwilym1991 It's worth pointing out that Dorne didn't actually beat Fulgrim in a fight because Fulgrim never used his daemon form and the real damage was done by Dorn's verbal assault.
The pain glove services are needed once more
with Rogal returning, this would allow the imperium to bolster its defenses, and be able to recoup and prepare for a push back against xenos and chaos
If he does come back I want to see him go full Black Templar and go on a massive crusade
We all know that Rogal Dorn sits inside some Imperial Fists' Centurion armor somewhere in the Imperial Palace...
Golden Centurion is on his way!!!!!
His silence shall be broken!
I would LOVE to see the argument between a newly returned Dorn and the Black Templars over the Emperor being a god or not!!
Plot twist, black Templar logic:
If the Emperor himself established the Imperial Truth that there are no gods to be worshipped... And by extension, be denies being a god... Then the Emperor is denying his own divinity and banning worship of him... Then that must mean that the Emperor is a heretic against the Emperor's divinity!
CRUSADE TO TERRA AND SPREAD HIS HOLY LIGHT TO HIM - WHETHER HE WANTS TO OR NOT!
Then the BT go full renegade chapter/Legion on an unsuspecting imperium and that's ANOTHER fire for guilliman and dorn to put out
I want a Rogal return, but a return as a Crusader Dorn, being more closer to Templars than Old Dorn. It fits modern setting really well and create a nice dynamic between him/Roboute and the Lion.
Indeed, seeing him become a "true believer" of the imperial cult, maybe in a what lorgar should have been sort of way. It would also be interesting to see what a loyalist chapter would do if their gene father rebuked them in favor of another.
That would be stupid. Dorn is not a believer.
@@ruinerblodsinn6648 you never know, a lot can happen in a few thousand years.
br5ooksrwally not even Guilliman changed enough in 10k years.
@@ShadowFri3nd yeah but he was in a coma
If we ever see Peter Turbo return I would love to see Rogal come back too. Siegebowl Round Two - Iron Cage Grudge Match!
Rogal's gonna be so pissed he missed the defense of Cadia.
That Helbrect novel really made me excited for the Scouring and especially crying out for him to come back. I am a Son of Iron and a huge fan of Guilliman but now its safe to say im a Rogal fan boy
So Guilly and Dorn come back first, and get things rolling smoothly, and then the Lion returns and is pretty much a cat with the zoomies on a chessboard.
Could you imagine the universe with THREE loyal Primarchs. The universe dealing with Guilliman, Lion AND Rogal!! 🤯🤯🤯
Meanwhile both the Raven and the Wolf are circling…
And Guilliman secretly sneaking the 'rez armor' to Baal to wake Sanguinius up.
@@Galith20 ...and accidentally stumbling over the sarcophagus that contains Vulkan.
@@Furzkampfbomber I mean...if the Blood Raven 'collected' the sarcophagus, yeah. XD
@@____________838 I could do withoit Leman Russ To be honest
Here take my strong hand. 🖐️
I can hear the voice of Valrak in the Warp just crying like a baby
Guilliman would be overjoyed to see ANY of his loyalist brothers right now. But Dorn would certainly be one of the most useful to have back.
Allow me to pose a few questions to the community here. I'll preface this by saying I'm newish to the lore, though I have put probably 500ish hours into TH-cam lorekeepers like Rho.
He puts emphasis on "if" another primarch is going to even return at all. Is that really a possibility? You have these perfect seeds planted for future content by keeping the majority of them confirmed as alive. So would GW really just not visit them again?
More lore fun question: Which primarch return would have the biggest impact on the empire? I feel like Robutte is the perfect first round pick for running an empire, but who ideally would be #2?
I doubt Dorn is going to be happy on what the imperium has become, What do you guys think?
Definitely....he's gonna take it worse then Roboute Guilliman.
He was there when it went down to shit and accepted it
Accepted it… he engineered it. Lorgar is not the father of the “God-Emperor” of the 41st Millennium. Dorn is.
Fact 1: according to the old IA… Rogal Dorn consented to his Legion breaking down because of a “vision” he had in the pain glove.
Fact 2: according to the old IA, Dorn went to his death knowingly because he was one of the last remaining Primarchs and he was starting to be deified… and he felt only one Being was worth worship.. his dead Father.
Fact 3: not only has the Horus Heresy shown that Dorn will kill and hide truth to win, he cloaks it in duty. He believes in this. He is the father of the inquisition.
Dorn fakes his death and goes into hiding to facilitate the rise of the imperial cult. Whilst he runs the show behind the scenes via the inquisition. Praetorian of Terra proves he’s more capable of this kind of shit than even Alpharious was. Before Dorn caved his skull in.
Now Guilliman has come back saying things like “truth and knowledge” and “the emperor isn’t a god”. Undoing everything Dorn set in motion.
So now Dorn has to come back. To be the voice of superstition and hate. Not knowledge and reasoning.
@@stephenbolding8094 ok, it’s still a pretty big leap to say that he is leading the inquisition like the aluminaty tho. But he does have to be around somewhere
It would also make sense from a story perspective: An imperium under siege is in need of an unshakeable wall, a defender to turn the tides....
Imperial Fists might not have their own codex, but they are the posterboys of 30k.
Perturabo: I am 100% sure, that he is dead.
If Lorgar surfaces. Corax will not be far behind.
We don't need Dorn, We need KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
I feel the need for speed!
@@CSSVirginia (Astartes high five)
My money is still on the Lion due to his likely conflict with Guilliman. Though this would change his legion quite a bit as he'd probably think they were idiots for a) keeping the Fallen secret and b) abandoning war zones just to try track them down.
Dorn would be an interesting return but I think he and Guilliman would get on too well.
lorgar needs to return, he started this shit and isnt a crappy demon prince
I can see a Rogal Dorn returning from a distant part of the universe, not the warp, but another galaxy or may be a warp gate and sent him. Alien tech cybernetic hand, White hair and beard all along looking like Moses, leading some unknown Zeno’s horde back to the imperium. It would be epic
I just have to say. . . Vulkan lives! Stomp stomp!
I can hear Valrak squealing from all the way in the south at that title xD
Dorn is the king in yellow 😎
Rogal: Yay.
The race between a stirring Lion and another possible loyalist is on !
If I went with sales, I’d’say the Lion wakes first ^^
Unless… Games Workshop pulls a fast one, with a brand new imperial fist codex and a re-launch. After all, a returning Dorn having found his « faith » could be a scary prospect for the imperium ! ^^
We need some Warp shenanigans and some Imperial magic to get the Gorgon back. I'll get my army out again when we get Ferris Manus back among the living.
I think people forget about the man that walked with Emps. The primarch with a dream of a humanity that is safe and secure. The engineer that believes in hope and can deliver. The builder that fathered the stalwart warriors that are Templars, Crimsons, and Fists. The praetorian that might just have enough to sway even the inquisition; as named by Emps himself.
I pity the forces that must stand up to the man that would command them all with such tactical prowess.
I place my hope on the man that cannot lie, the man who will tell you to your face that you suck. The man that expects better from you, and would rather protect than give himself accolades.
Because let’s face it. Even Emps and Horus knew Rogal Dorn is the man that will earn your respect.
Return to us, Father. We need your guidance in this darkest hour of the Imperium.
Dorn comes back wearing Ferris's hand would be awesome. Give the man both legions. He'll need some extra support with imperial fists current rules.
If anything I do belive Lion L. Johnson should return first, just for him to actually take the battle to the enemy and create more of the drama within the Imperium. Only for then to Rogal Dorn to appear and act as a mediator between the Guilliman's Empire and Johnson's side if the Empire.
If he indeed will return he must have moustache and sideburns like TTS version, it's just the requirement.
Also I hope Lion will return as well. Imperial Triumvirate as you will. It could be interesting Guilliman and Lion trying to work together
despite beef between them back from time of Imperium Secundus.
Can't wait for Valrak to implode with happiness
I still think it makes for better story telling for Dorn to remain MIA. Just permanently missing with no confirmation as to what happened to him.
With that being said, if they do bring him back. I think Dorn should come back as a dreadnaught.... Think about it Dreadnaught Primarch.
Dorn: "You betrayed us. You forced us to shatter our Legions and here I return to learn of your miraculous return at the head of a Great Crusade size formation of your own new astartes. "
Guilliman: "Did you also learn of The War Of The Beast since your return? I have, and it seems neither of us were quite as honest as we should have been brother."
Dorn: " No. I did as I was asked leaving only a contingency plan in case I was right about needing Legion size formations to defend the our Father's Imperium.
You planned, manuevered, martialed resources, lied, manipulated, and nearly plunged us into a second Civil War so you would have millions of astartes unknown to and completely unaccountable, unanswerable, and worst of all unusable to any save yourself until you graciously decided to reveal them and tell them to join the chapters.
You deliberately lied to us all Roboutte, and your scheming and arrogance almost cost us everything we have left. We will fix Father's Imperium, together. But make no mistake, when this task is done we will settle this matter between us."
*Walks Out*
Well, basically that but with an author who can write it in good Guilliman/Dorn speech patterns
Oh boy 10,000 Black Templars are gonna be so excited about this one.
It’d be nice for Dorn to get his round 2 against Perturabo, this time hopefully he’s back to being level headed.
I still think its totally possible to recover Vulcan, Khan and awake El'Jonson followed by Emperor's resurrection for a climax. This would be an epic hypetrain.
I can clearly hear happy Valrak noise😀
I recon the 1st thing hed want to do is travel to the phalanx and fully restore it/make sure its as restored etc as possible
Imagine guillimans reaction if hes buried in a massive void fight for the phalanx and an entire escorting fleet of imperial fist ships to emerge to support
Followed by dorn hailing guiliman/the macrags honour directly
"In the beginning, I was me..." TTS Dorn
Dorn returning is perfect excuse Guilliman needs to bring back the legions. If Guiliman says Dorn demanded it, he has his out.
I hope they bring back all the loyal Primarchs
Mann! I just love the art if this guy could put a coffee book or comic books together the dealt with Warhammer 30K and 40 even previous stories combined I'll pick it up I'll pick two up.
Now that the Seige if Terra series is about done its time to REALLY TEAR A HOLE IN THE GALAXY.
The Heresy series has set up Dorn as THE most important loyalist primarch.
Ferris Manus shoudl come back...
Because his iron hands was necron type tech, maybe he gets revived by an awakened tomb world that was ironically stirred awake by an Emperor's children's marine or Fabius Bile fuckign with necron site...
Imagine a "Necron-Loyalist Primarch"
Hope jagatai Leman russ and Vulcan return now there is a force to be reckoned with bring the lion back
I think GW will reintroduce all of the Primarchs over time. Lionel would be great especially with the teases of Imperium secundus in the fluff. Dorn would be a fantastic 3rd or 4th option however one of the peacekeepers ideally Vulkan or The Khan would probably make sense to provide balance to the fluff. Another wildcard would be for ii to be unleashed in all of her rumoured glory.
Controversial thought but....Dorn is the best choice for a loyalist turned traitor return.
It could be mixed with the loyalist Fulgrim clone story and creates a lot of interesting story possibilities
Dorn should return as a demon prince of the god of hate Malice, with the intention of just destroying the other choas gods. Would be a great twist
That would suit Corax more than Dorn. Corax is already embracing a kind of "demonhood".
That said, it's also quite possible that The Emperor is Malice so Dorn being that Daemon Prince would work with some mental gymnastics.
Magic Pain Glove, I can not stop speculating on the return of my father. Please distract me from these frivolous exercises. AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
Dorn will just sit behind his walls and sulk,
When I first started 40k, I never paid attention to Rogal Dorn. The yellow of the imperial fists always turned me off from the army and any potential interest. But the more and more I learn about the lore, the more and more respect I gain for the praetorian.
Dorne is by far the most adaptable among his brothers. I became a fan during the siege books. He is going huge and even defeating two of his brothers in combat.
… that angel though hot damn.
Barring ferrus manus and sanguinius for obvious reason dorn is the less likely primarch to return
Jagathai disappeared in the webway
Russ is heavily hinted to have enter the eye of terror and predicted his eventual return
Vulkan is a perpetual and confirmed active during the war of the beast way after the heresy
Coral is confirmed alive and hinting lorgar in the Warp
The lion is asleep and fully healed inside the rock
Dorn on the other hand was seen last time in a heretic ship during a battle and only his hand as recovered
He is presumed dead but differently from his brother we had no other indication of him until now
I would put my money on the lion or vulkan as next loyalist to come back
The Heresy series has made superstars of Dorn and The Khan
He's back. In tank form.
Also we know exactly where he is, he is in the emperors throne room.
So, I could see Rogal having spent this time in the imperial palace training his butt off to become a more powerful combatant. It would be interesting to see the siege master become more aggressive in his siege tactics then previously making him a terrifying force in single combat while becoming a better commander.
Good. I want daddy dawn back.
Medrenguard has been building fleets and war machines since the heresy I think if dorn comes back purtorabo will unite the 4th legion to finish what he started in the iron cage. Causing dorn to call the last wall protocol creating a civil war with robute
Yeah but the watchers aren’t supposed to wake the Lion up until the fear of the end time. So Dorn, Russ or Corex have to come back first. The Lion should be the last one before they do an end times.
If we had a primarch everytime somebody said a prinarch return could be close we could full out an imperial guard regiment with them.
When you bring them back it should be to emphasise the differences between primarchs. Lion to Guilliman is way more interesting. Then Russ or the Khan. You want there to be as much antagonism between them as well as unified strength, thats what the loyal primarch relationships are all about
I guarantee you GW has the designs and possibly even a CAD for Fulgrim for an eventual Emperor's Children codex.
Vulkan, Dorn, Johnson, and Khan are all possibilities to return.
GW is pacing it brilliantly, however, as we don't want all of these uber characters thrust into the game close together. A slow burn, drip them out one-by-one, and allow a story to be driven forward alongside such a return. The 40k universe is (thankfully) moving centuries ahead after 30 years of doing literally nothing.
If they return him they better not have him broken or have some type of ptsd due to his long captivity if he was a captive. I would hate them forever, and give up on 40k. Rogan been my fav.