Snow Foams Does they work? Untreated Vs Brute Vs Spritzer

[@forensicunplugged4295]

*"does they work" jesus*

[@Malborex]

I'm german, but isn't it do they work ? :P

[@jasonmennie9629]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SomeMadRandomPerson]

Those Germans are funny......at times lol

[@markkerr3761]

Haha that was the first thing I noticed Jon! Spent 5 minutes deliberating whether to mention it or not, couldn't even concentrate on the video haha

[@f4rducky418]

Hey Jon, looked on their website and you can apply via your foam cannon, a lot less faf than that pump sprayer. Do a whole car with that and you’ll have arms like Arnie. Asta la vista baby 💪

[@Simon-kh2dd]

I have only just started to use snow foams, sometimes with APC underneath. These products did much more than I expected! Looking forward to the shoot out! Really enjoying the potato cams.

[@markkerr3761]

Be very interesting to see how they compare with BH... As cost wise the Brute seems to be on par at £20 for 5l... I love BH but when I worked out the ratio for my lance/pressure washer / water supply set up, I'm having to use it at a 2:1 (water:product) to get my 4% on-the-panel... That's quite a lot even when only using a 400-500ml amount for a prewash... Be interesting to see how Brute compares when used through a lance (as I could not be ar5ed with using a pump sprayer for a pre-wash on a regular basis!)

[@simonjames2855]

Thanks Jon, really good test, I have both of these products but have tended to favour the spritzer, but I turbo charge it with a small amount of bilt hambers surfed hd. It works really well as a pre cleaner on 100k + mile vans that have rarely if ever been cleaned, especially on the roofs which tend to be covered in algae and fallout. Looking forward to seeing the full text especially the results of the bare metal as I only use bh autofoam on my BMW E30.

[@kennyg4744]

I still use two of your recommendations. I use a sprayer to cover the car in Koch Chemie GS at 5 to 1 and leave to work for 5 minutes. I then go over that with Bilt Hamber AutoFoam in a snow foam lance and leave to settle for 5 minutes. Finally, I rinse it all off with my Karcher K4. Results are always truly impressive. Got a before and after picture after a 580 mile round trip recently in the rain, snow and storms. You got an email address and I’ll ping them over.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

they will most definetly work kenny for sure.. hell yer :)

[@manxox]

I’ve been using spritzer in a pump sprayer for quite a while now always does a great job 👍👍

[@1669Python]

Great live "on the hoof" video Jon. Looking forward to the full comparison test.

[@bimmerclubsport]

If I can offer a little word of advice, just being cautious. Don't jet spray over PDC sensors. It's possible to damage them (stop them from working). I jet wash around mine and just use a detail brush to get at them.

[@ndiggadee2663]

I was blown away by autobrite direct snow foam when I bought their Lance. So bought a 25 litre drum of it. Easy doing cars now. I've had useless snow foam in the past so I understand why people think snow foam can be a waste of time.

[@OGChill]

“Quick informal potato cam video today” had me creasing 😂

[@tonymontana897]

Wow, that's actually not too bad. Some sno foams don't remove even half what these products did.
Nice one !

[@tazznijjar7111]

Nice to see you finally got some Autoglanz products on there!! And if you can maye do auto glance products bs Alien Magic products from APC's, snow foams, detail sprays etc! That will be such a good one!

[@waynefromcanada]

I think if the missus caught you cleaning out your foamer in her kitchen sink, YOU would be in a lot of trouble. 😂😂

[@forensicunplugged4295]

shes in spain im safe :)

[@delphinebez3045]

@@forensicunplugged4295 Never imagined she's been watching you on TH-cam? 😁

[@ForensicDetailing]

@@delphinebez3045 you gotta be kidding me, I barely get a "good morning" when shes here nowadays. Im one down from the dog... and we dont even have a dog!

[@markkerr3761]

@@ForensicDetailing any wonder, you spend more time with your cameras and products than you do with her 🤣🤣 I'm not criticising btw, I've been living with my missus for 17 years now... That's how I got into detailing 🤣🤣

[@jdmderick]

04:00 he's a pro...😂😂😂

[@mandismith89]

not much of a squirter though :)

[@jdmderick]

@@mandismith89 😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼

[@WestfieldFreshAir]

Must admit didn't quite get snow foam. I do now. Wow. Need to investigate further.

[@LGarbac]

My go to prewashes are ag spritzer and shiny garage citrus oil. I switched to citrus oil because its much more economic product

[@boyasaka]

Just read about Shiney garage citrus oil as never heard of it, says in great for removing layers of wax, that's not good if u don't wanna remove ya wax lol

[@LGarbac]

@@boyasaka i mainly ceramic coat my cars, and in good dillution it doesnt remove waxes and sealants. Same as any other prewash.

[@paulhamilton6013]

For prewash we use Koch Chemie Vb @ 1:50. Snow foam Angelwax fast foam or Koch Super foam.

[@BrianW1612]

Nice little comparison Jon. I've been raving about these 2 pre wash products so good to see your thoughts are similar to mines 👍
Also agree 100% with the pump foamer. I have a larger IK9 and I love it but you have to be really careful with dilutions on products that typically are high foaming. They come out like shaving foam and murder to apply if too concentrated. On a plus side, means you can dilute them hugely making them great value for money 👍

[@forensicunplugged4295]

yer its so foamy when you put it in a foamer its too dry.. But in a lance or normal sprayer its nice... It foams up nicely under contact as well which is cool for brushing out rag tops and stuff.

[@sh4rpyvwr324]

You should have tested both products on the alloy wheels with brake dust, would have noticed the difference easier , if any

[@kennyg4744]

Jon, I bought the Trigger gun from In2Detailing, but I see you now have managed to get hold of the extension. Where did you get it from?

[@danlav313g]

I also want to know this

[@deanbennett5343]

I've only heard good things about Spritzer. I will have to try some when my kkd citrus runs out. Another great informative video👌👌

[@davegraham1398]

My missus says she's going to give you a bit of a kicking for making me spend loads of money on products 😂😂😂😂

[@forensicunplugged4295]

doh :)

[@miguelcunha6664]

You could have used a white cloth to show the dirt :). Anyway, good review

[@forensicunplugged4295]

yer or like white cotten circular swabs is good but its very imformal this Miguel.

[@markadmin4829]

great review. i find the car dryer is not much use on a car when there is little protection on the paint. Great review

[@HKSHomer]

Great review! Currently using Bug Off for the same type of method but after seeing this might have to grab Brute and the bonus is it seems to be cheaper!

[@sm-eh4ix]

I've just purchased some snow foam from jennychem. This product is supposed to clean and dry the vehicle without touching it. Waiting for delivery as we speak, also I've purchased some non flick tyre shine that says it lasts upto 3 weeks. And does not come off in the rain. Is there any chance you can do a review on these 2 products?

[@SomeMadRandomPerson]

Well that's good to know, my car is absolutely mocket! But haven't got the time to give it a right good going over due to well living in Scotland lol that's why, by the time I bring all my gear out its will be raining again, I can't wait for my whole 7 days of summer 😍☀️ anyways I'd be interested to see these carried out through a snowfoam lance, I reckon they would be better, the brilliant thing about these products is for the reason I said above, not enough time to get all ur equipment out so having this to blast over and do a contactless wash in this weather seems like a perfect solution, u could do ur car in under 30 mins maybe even once a week, yes we can all agree it won't be 100% but it will be 100 times better than it was because our weather and our roads are terrible, will u be running it through the SF Lance Jon? 😎👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Mr_Costington]

After your snowfoam best of, and then 8 below and Bilt Hamber head to head, is there any point getting anything other than 8 below?? 🤔

[@r-mackphotography6424]

Both look fairly decent! Would like to know your opinion on this v’s say Bilt Hamber snow foam!
Cheers chief.

[@SidewaysKris]

I really like the look of these Jon, I do so many miles every week. I use Surfex HD as part of my prewash in the IK6. These actually look like they will clean better than what I’m seeing with Surfex HD, would love to know what your thoughts are in comparison from when you first tried Surfex HD 👍👍👍

[@forensicunplugged4295]

I dont really use surfex this way (dont get me wrong you can but).. BH have a dedicated road film pre wash and I just think this is what you want to use as a pre wash really buddy. Its more rinsable than surfex.

[@xboxlivegstar11]

Used both...spritzer smells and foams up better but price point for me is 20 quid more for 5l I'd rather use brute and make it a little stronger

[@forensicunplugged4295]

thats like an echo of my thoughts. but I think I prefer spritzer..

[@Knards]

I only count on foam to take off any loose dirt that could scratch the car when I actually wash it. But all foams are different

[@longhainguyen2603]

for prewash, i use Nerta active diamond ..

[@zaink7037]

Surprised to see that. I also like to use a snow foam during hand washing to add extra lubrisity to the paint and hopefully minimise scratches 👍

[@forensicunplugged4295]

Where about are you from Zain by the way?

[@zaink7037]

@@forensicunplugged4295 I'm in North London. Can't even clean the car this week whilst I'm off due to it raining every day 😩

[@markkerr3761]

@@zaink7037 I feel your pain - got a new car 2 weeks ago (well new to me) and can't get outside to even give it a basic clean, driving me nuts!!

[@timshannon999]

Really interesting, many thanks.

[@DavidC1]

go in heavy heanded with bilt hamber auto foam higher concentration.... wait 5 or 10 minutes and pressure wash.....all dirt removed

[@forensicunplugged4295]

you distribute your comments like a cluster bomb dave! :)

[@DavidStillman78]

Genuinely was surprised about the results. Didn't think it made much difference, I normally snow foam just because it's fun 😁

[@forensicunplugged4295]

1:25 would be 4% pir for the lance.. so that would be 50% product 50% water in the lance thats a lot. Could be a factor. but both products exceeded my expectations the panel was actualy squeeking it was so clean.

[@ianh9696]

Which IK foamer nozzle did you use?
Wet, Medium or Dry?
Makes a difference to how products foam.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

yer it does this was grey. I just never have time to alter them or change filters... like if I load it up and the foam is crap I just grin and bear it ..... but I think spritzer is mega foamy by nature too dry for this foamer perhaps so it was not just he foamers fault.

[@DavidC1]

i personally do not understand why anyone woulduse prefoam that isnt bilt hamber

[@coba-1255]

Random question but where did you get the extension lance for the quick release gun. Thinking about buying the gun but would prefer a lance as well if needed

[@forensicunplugged4295]

amazon search pressure gun extention wand quick release mate.

[@Pedroluvslupe]

What was the dilution you did here again?

[@joshsymons7524]

Great video!! What pressure washer do you use?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

k7 karcher mate ive done a review of it.. its very good.

[@YouOnlyGetToDoItOnce]

Hi Jon, do you think these snow foam tests are true reflections on the cleaning power of the snow foams, based on their recommended dilutions? Would you consider a re test based on them recommendations?
I consider you one of the most trustworthy TH-camrs and base the majority of my purchases off your videos! Keep it up, brilliant content :)

[@forensicunplugged4295]

do you mean the tests in this video or my up and coming "best snow foam" video test thing? both are true reflections of something because we are sort of using the products to clean things.. so like they have to be a reflection of something right ? I wanted the diluations to be the same for this test so it might allow me to determine which one cleaned better... 1:25 is like 4% pir for sprizter. I think you can use it a lot lower than this. Brute you can use upto 1:10. This might suggest that spritzer is more concentrated or powerfull as it has a lower max ratio. who knows. but literally all these premlinary things are, are a chance for me to eyeball them, I mean you can call it a test perhaps but its like a half asses attempt to eyeball them in use (that never sounds great for the title though :) ) . So when I start the formal testing I have some real world usage to also base my opinion on.

[@YouOnlyGetToDoItOnce]

@@forensicunplugged4295 I agree. I was referring to your big test that you're building up to! I suppose really you could look at it as a "pound4pound" champion! Just picked up some autofoam after finishing avalanche, find auto finesse quite expensive. Thanks for the reply. 👍

[@forensicunplugged4295]

@@YouOnlyGetToDoItOnce yer so that big test, or any of those comparisons can be a bit to "testy" if you like and "testy" isnt always good. products that have done bad in "testys" Ive gone on to love like Capro Elixir for example.. So yer by doing all this it helps the tests be a bit better.. you literally cannot beat using these products as many times.... even now in winter, that can be a different ball game to doing the "testy" in summer and I might miss something... so yer.. dunno mate we try and do a good job.

[@YouOnlyGetToDoItOnce]

@@forensicunplugged4295 you do more than most. I bet we'd do well go find someone who's such an honest product tester with as much insight, who isn't being influenced by big brands to "not say too much". thanks again 👍

[@shishuali4821]

what nozzle/ metal attachment is on the pressure washer? is it a karcher accessory

[@forensicunplugged4295]

Autobrite PA lance 1.1 orrafice upgrade dr dirt lance upgrade, in2detailing trigger gun with quick release extrnation bar and white quick release jet nozzle.

[@jasonmennie9629]

Love spritzer, brilliant through a foam lance.

[@markkerr3761]

That interesting you say that because the other reviews I've read said to avoid foam lance and use a pump sprayer...
... Good to see a different opinion - what dilution ratio do you use in the foam lance?

[@jasonmennie9629]

@@markkerr3761 well like any pre wash/ snowfoam, you get better dilution ratios in a pump sprayer and basically save money because your using less product.
I use it both ways, but it does work very well in a lance, not to thick, not to thin, runs off the car nicely and cleans really well.
As regards dilution, i have tried a couple of ratios 10-1, 20-1 both work really well, so i would do either 450ml water to 50ml spritzer or 25ml product to 475ml water, all depends on the level of dirt on the car and if it's protected or not, but still use very little product really, but don't forget using it through a lance will dilute the product further.
Through a pump sprayer you would use less, so in a 2 litre sprayer that i have, i use it round 25-1 up to 50-1 still works well even up to 75-1, on the bottle it says lsp safe from 100-1 upwards but don't listen to that, joe (autoglanz boss man) told me it's lsp safe even neat (quality lsp) and told me to play around with the ratios, so obviously yes you get value for money in a pump sprayer, but not as fun as foaming 😀, and also foam helps it not dry as quick aswell and better for working the crevices with a brush also, so foaming does have it's advantages at the expense of using more product.
Give it a try through as lance you will be pleasantly suprised, again joe told me in testing that because it did so well through a lance, they decided to add instructions to be used through one.
Hope this helps.

[@DavidC1]

if you cover a small area with more water wouldnt it have the same effect?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

I just wanted like to show the difference versus soaking with water. I think its like a better control that leaving dry.

[@piggietruckerjones7545]

What pressure washer do you have? It looks like it puts out a lot of water.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

karcher K7 m8 check out the review of it its very powerfull yes.

[@functionaldoc5054]

What is the PH of each product by itself is one product more alkaline then the other ? How much wax or coating stripping are each of these products doing? Thanks John . Europe only products.

[@forensicunplugged4295]

not covered in this video mate sorry. PH will be covered in the proper big test. I might be able to do like a wax rate erosion comparison. hmmm :) more work :(

[@andrewmurdoch2335]

Hi Jon. Why don’t you put in that Blitz snow foam I see on your shelf and give us an even 10 product shoot out?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

it will screw my thumbnail plans 9 is the cap (imagine 3x3 thumbnail of all the cars being foamed)

[@andrewmurdoch2335]

Forensic Unplugged Awesome. Got ye!

[@Pedroluvslupe]

What soap is this? Can I buy it in USA 🇺🇸

[@gordonmccartney5648]

Auto Glanz vision and prism are very good products

[@brianknowles1727]

Normal wash and wax would do exactly the same.

[@psneternityinanhour]

What air blower os that please mate?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

flex m8

[@hakman239]

Nice kitchen

[@Pedroluvslupe]

What soap is this ? Can Is it available here un the USA 🇺🇸

[@forensicunplugged4295]

i th

[@ocdetailsautomotivedetaili1781]

I’d love to know where they came up with those product names 😂@ammonyc comes to mind

[@forensicunplugged4295]

I came up with the product name "spritzer" for autoglanz about 5 years ago.

[@giovannigallo8429]

Got purchased a bottle 👍🏻

[@matty387]

So the foamy one had less time on the panel and did a better job?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

you could say that yer. although it was really a sort of quick eyeball. Hard to really know which cleaned better because both did such a good job but yer.. it was close to squeeky clean on those lower panels. did not expect that..

[@zaink7037]

@@forensicunplugged4295 could be because the lower areas technically get more foam on them due to foam above coming down 👍

[@matty387]

@@forensicunplugged4295 Looking back the first was applied 3+ minutes before the second one, and the second got washed off before the first? I would have thought the one that had been on there longer would have done better, but not necessarily. Both incredibly impressive at those dilution ratios

[@forensicunplugged4295]

@@matty387 I did lol should have washed the other off (I actually filmed couple of other videos while It was dwelling, too much for my single neuron to cope with :) ). I think though I left them for prolly so long they had both done their thing..

[@matty387]

@@forensicunplugged4295 Sorry, I think that came across wrong. I'm not picking holes, just trying to understand how each did what it did. Again, great review showing the benefits of these pre wash products. I'd have never thought they would be so effective at those dilution rates 👌🏼

[@DetectoristTom]

BH autofoam still the daddy though? 😉

[@forensicunplugged4295]

its the reigning champion of the first pre wash test.. Ive started the second test now and Ive shot the corrosion testing. but theres about another 5-6 tests to do. (and another couple of months of just using the products on dirty cars like this)

[@DetectoristTom]

Forensic Unplugged well done. Lots to choose from nowadays. I have been using the Dooka wash Si for prewash and it works well. A great softener before jetting off!

[@JasonKruys]

@@DetectoristTom How have you been using it? Through the lance using detergent bottle, or snowfoam bottle, or spray bottle?

[@DetectoristTom]

Jason Dooka Si? I use it through a 5 litre pump sprayer. I always have the water fairly warm though.

[@jonathan___4684]

@@forensicunplugged4295 corrosion testing? Do they cause corrosion?

[@theonlyspratty2375]

Freedooommm...legend

[@hakman239]

Iv used spritzer at 20:1 its stronger the autoglanz trade tfr in my opinion

[@jonandlisa2000]

👍 great products

[@lesmcqueen697]

"Does they work" still a better use of English than most Americans can do.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Actually no. It is worse than most Americans.

[@tonyosullivan2382]

Ah Braveheart, what a movie 😁

[@martinwise784]

Uneven dwell times - maybe invest in two foamers for tests like these?

[@DonDomel]

2:24 those IK foamer looks like crap. Buy Marolex or Gloria FM10 or FM390

[@forensicunplugged4295]

needs a filter change but yer Im not over whelmed it. I tried the marolex down at UK detailing as was not overly impressed with that either. I like the bigger pump sprayers (more than pump foamers) I think the small ones perhaps are all gonna be too much rumpy pumpy. not sure don, might do like the bike pump hack and see if that makes it better.

[@mandycowey7635]

I will stick with my bucket n sponge and jet wash.

[@DB-dx8xu]

Omg!! Did he say he cleaned it with a sponge and not a wash mitt 😟

[@ForensicDetailing]

virtually all panels have laquer peel. doing a safe wash on a car that needs a full respray is pointless. its already covered in swirls.

[@DavidC1]

you need to have that pump sprayer filled up all the way so you dont have to pump it a million times

[@alainveenman6571]

Yeah home alone hahaha

[@adissa8934]

👍 AG

[@rabmoody]

Washed the wrong side first

[@darrenwootton2007]

New channel?

[@forensicunplugged4295]

bout a year old daz.. just little backup channel for potatoe cam low budget productions

[@andrewburton4863]

No they does not!

[@DavidC1]

foam :D