Why not just set up your lock-miter router bit this way?

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  • @StumpyNubs
    @StumpyNubs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    NOTE: I didn't mention setup blocks because they do not account for variations in material thickness. A 3/4" setup block only works with wood that is EXACTLY 3/4" thick.
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    • @joshymcdaniel9233
      @joshymcdaniel9233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keithmarlowe5569 there is that’s what I’m searching for now’ I saw a few videos last time I looked so I’m searching for them now 😂

  • @MichaelCampbell01
    @MichaelCampbell01 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Once you DO have it set up, get a piece of stock that's the same thickness as your "production" piece, cut into it with the bit, and save it. This becomes a template/guide for the height the next time you need to make this cut on that thickness of stock.

  • @ridercoachdanielle3220
    @ridercoachdanielle3220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Despite the fact that there is NO SHORTAGE WHATSOEVER of dudes in my life who keep running up and shouting advice at me, I'm learning woodworking pretty much entirely by watching videos, reading, and doing. Of all the woodworking vids I watch, yours are my favorite. Thank you for calmly, simply, conversationally explaining things in as few words as possible without hollering, going off on tangents, flashing all over the place in quick, confused, confusing ways, or any of the other things that make it hard to learn from someone on video. You're doin God's work, friend (assuming God wants me to be able to build stuff without being hollered to/at by every man who knows me).

  • @GotCamel
    @GotCamel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought the Freud miter lock bit and wish these companies would imprint the center of the bit on the big itself so there is no guesswork. It would make the $80 I spent on it worth the purchase. This is the best video I have seen on this topic.

  • @IanCooke-ec5cs
    @IanCooke-ec5cs หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video showed the most common sense way to set up the lock mitre bit. Give it a go. Also, Nubs is right, other videos make the process way more complicated than it needs to be.

  • @gkacarlie1871
    @gkacarlie1871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Die Höhen- u. Anschlageinstellung ist in diesem Video sehr gut erklärt.
    Ich denke jetz kann ich den Miter-Router-Bit endlich mal in Betrieb nehmen. Thank You

  • @philipbyrnes7501
    @philipbyrnes7501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Oh you clever bugga, the idea of double taping another board to the piece you’re cutting is sheer genius and I’d never have thought that one up, so very clever. I can think of other applications for it too. Thanks James, that’s where brilliance mate, good onya from down under, tho, we’re really up over lol

  • @frankkirschner
    @frankkirschner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. Followed your method and got a perfect fit the first time. No idea what will happen the second time. Thanks from a 73-year old beginner.

  • @DKWalser
    @DKWalser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    James -- Excellent instruction. One more tip for those new to these bits: Mill ALL the stock (plus a little extra) you will be using in your project at the same time. Even slight differences in stock thickness will result in a joint that does not fit properly.

    • @JeremyElliott
      @JeremyElliott ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Goes without saying that you should also mill your scrap lumber test pieces at the same time as your project workpieces.

  • @garbgas
    @garbgas 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great tip. Use the MicroJig lock miter bit because it has a ledge that is exactly at the half way point of the bit. Thank you!

  • @briancole5828
    @briancole5828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The shop I'm at we use them mainly for beams especially rustic beams but we do a relief cut on the table saw at around 30 degrees to take the stress off the cut.

  • @fulesmackofule
    @fulesmackofule 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish all videos would be like this on YT. Straight to the point, well demonstrated.
    I just have a hand router, but I'll figure out what to do based on this.

    • @johnverkler3962
      @johnverkler3962 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sir. I know it's been 8 months. Please do not do this with a handheld router. There's no roller bearing guide to rest against the wood! A full cut with this wide router bit could jam against the wood and send the spinning router flying with no mercy at you or across the room. If you did this already, I hope you're still alive.

  • @randytellez2451
    @randytellez2451 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid. Recently bought a lock miter bit and was about to attempt my first use. This takes my worry out of the equation. Thank you

  • @cyrilnorrie8450
    @cyrilnorrie8450 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your clear and thorough explanation on how to set up a lock-mitre bit. Setting these bits properly is an arduous task , but your method makes it quite easy. Your videos are my favorite!

  • @bdr4212
    @bdr4212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a rookie when it comes to fine woodworking and got a lock-mitre bit in a set I just bought. I played with it a little. Your video really made it clear and easy to understand how to use it. Cheers!

  • @6ixfishing
    @6ixfishing ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are a phenomenal teacher and I appreciate your time in creating this resource. Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @jonathanbrady3820
    @jonathanbrady3820 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haven’t used my lock mitre but in a few years and was having difficulty setting up. Watched this and got it set in 1 min. Thx. Big fan of your videos, I even watch them when it’s not something I’m looking for or needing lol because they’re always so well presented.

  • @arizonasundevil5128
    @arizonasundevil5128 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for yet another clear and thorough explanation. Everyone else makes things so complicated that you make so clear.

  • @TItuszell
    @TItuszell 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of my favourite woodworking channels, clear concise and really helpful advice. Thank you

  • @dalespringerwilson4233
    @dalespringerwilson4233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for demystifying this exceptionally mysterious subject !

  • @MegaWeagle
    @MegaWeagle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had never even heard of this but till just now. Not only do I want one but I believe I can use this bit flawlessly now!

  • @thomasknox7724
    @thomasknox7724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like you're clear sounding video. No echoes and no trying to talk over loud playing noise, so called music. I like making things out of wood for myself. Love watching your videos. Good job 👍

  • @OldKam
    @OldKam 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Made my first box using the lock miter and it was dead on. Easy to follow instructions.

  • @jimanderson4495
    @jimanderson4495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a Saturday morning.... sippin coffee and watchin Stumpy Nubs!

    • @jimanderson4495
      @jimanderson4495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      P.S. I’ve used Whiteside for years. Top quality and Made in USA!

  • @gnic76
    @gnic76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That tip about taping an extra piece to the board for edge cutting made total sense. Thanks! I was having a problem with that, as the board on edge was exiting the bit and then moving around or dropping, as there wasn't any support for the sharp edge.

    • @reloadNshoot
      @reloadNshoot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir, the downside of using this type of bit it that it does remove some material off of the face it’s cutting. It’s a small amount but you loose the reference edge which lets the piece dive down resulting in a snipe at the end. Adding to the length of the board works to eliminate this as you simply cut the sniped piec off. Taping or hot gluing another reference edge works too.

  • @toonybrain
    @toonybrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a timely video as I had just purchased these router bits in both sizes. The package came, I opened it, then I shuffled the bits off to the side - intimidated by what I imagined to be a very daunting setup.
    Thank you for this to-the-point, clear explanation with good visuals.

  • @Rjat96
    @Rjat96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just received my bits and they came with NO instructions or anything. This video will be very helpful. Thank you!

  • @gilvaes
    @gilvaes ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. Now I can adjust the bit with incredible simplicity.
    Thank you for the information.

  • @oldsarge8608
    @oldsarge8608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Stumpy. This is the simplest way to set up the bit I’ve seen.

  • @norm5785
    @norm5785 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video on how to set these bits properly

  • @daverothwell4579
    @daverothwell4579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant James! That is definitely the “least fussy” setup I’ve seen so I think I will finally invest in a pair of bits.

    • @rdwryr2000
      @rdwryr2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be sure to get quality bits. I bought two Chinese Cheapo bits on Amazon and it was a waste of money. The first had an odd size shank that wouldn't fit my collet and the second just tore the wood up no matter how careful I was.

  • @stevebutler5256
    @stevebutler5256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are always my go to guy when it comes to information and projects.

  • @conoverworkshops1486
    @conoverworkshops1486 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an exceptionally clear concise video with straightforward instructions. It was to the point without unnecessary side comments. It is also great fun to see the shop of someone that likes hand planes as much as I do. See you like Veritas planes too.

  • @mhstretch
    @mhstretch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your presentation very much. Infinity makes a lock mitre master jig which is a small magnetic device which shows the centre for both vertical and horizontal. I have used it for about a year and found that it makes alignment correct the first time almost every time. It is what your video shows but without the centerline guess work. Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past. This is not a set up block, but rather an aluminium piece held on to the bit by magnetism, which extends the center lines for easier alignment.

  • @Ferndalien
    @Ferndalien 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Mr. Hamilton. This is one of the clearest explanations for how to set up a locking miter bit that I have seen or read. I have a locking miter bit, I needed one to make a hollow square beam, and even with the manufacturer's directions, which basically said buy our setup tab, I couldn't figure out. After a lot of fiddling and a number of test cuts I got it as close to right as I thought I could get it and made the cuts. They weren't exact, but I was able to hide the small error by rounding off the corners.

  • @tobiasruth3397
    @tobiasruth3397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your tips and advice. I just got a set of locking miter router bits. They work great if you're following the grain. But not so well when you need to cut endgrain. How can this be done better?

  • @TeamProsperity
    @TeamProsperity 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I noticed you made the horizontal and vertical cuts on the same piece of material and then rip to width, very nice I hadn’t considered doing that but sure make sense especially on narrower material you should point that out

  • @MichaelHarmanWoodDesign
    @MichaelHarmanWoodDesign 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So simple and the best instructions I have seen anywhere. So close on my first try I didn’t even adjust it since the fine corner will get sanded round.

  • @kww9229
    @kww9229 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for simplifying the bit placement

  • @ironwood1621
    @ironwood1621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought one of these and was pulling my hair out trying to do this. This video will definitely help me to do this correctly. Thank you.

  • @heystarfish100
    @heystarfish100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Although I’m familiar with another set up process I like yours better. Great tips James. Thanks for your work on making this video.

  • @falxonPSN
    @falxonPSN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never even knew these were a thing! Very cool!

  • @lflsremodeling
    @lflsremodeling ปีที่แล้ว

    Just made my first miter lock joint. Thank you for the straightforward video! Subscribed.

  • @skyedangelo3237
    @skyedangelo3237 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love hearing about family run brands to support, so often we rush to get the best bang for the buck not thinking of the cost this line of reasoning has.

  • @skygod7358
    @skygod7358 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfectly answered all of my questions. Thank you.

  • @gordroberts53
    @gordroberts53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks James. I bought a small one a while back but have yet to put it to use. Part of my reluctance stems from several safety warnings about the 1/4" shank ones failing under load, the other part was trying to decipher what I could find on line about the product. As usual, you completely demystify the process. Will be buying a 1/2" shank one soon, the corner joint quality is very attractive to me.

  • @tracyligon2914
    @tracyligon2914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, I had a cheap set and followed your directions. They worked just fine and the ends looked super. Now to get a better lock miter bit! The cheap ones were ok but the joints were not very snug on the inside edges. (No more cheap bits!) These were on 1/2" box sides. No setup blocks needed with your method!

  • @josephsantos5139
    @josephsantos5139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Stumpy, I've owned a lock miter bit for probably over years. It's still unused and in the plastic box that it came in! As you mentioned, was afraid of using it. The massive size is intimidating and I wasn't sure of how to use it and I didn't have a decent router table. I recently bought a Kreg router table and now that I've seen this video I'm eager to try out your method of setting up the bit. Thanks man! Love your videos!!

  • @watermain48
    @watermain48 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks James. This is going to make setting these bits up a lot easier for me.

  • @kenkroner3690
    @kenkroner3690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation i have ever seen. Thanks

  • @jeffcantor3298
    @jeffcantor3298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect timing. I'm about to start my first project using lock miters. Thanks!!

  • @usedcarsokinawa
    @usedcarsokinawa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing the info in language that’s so easily understood.

  • @philclennell
    @philclennell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had several moments with this cutter when I've not known whether to go up, down or sideways! Just be sure you have a mile of test pieces. But this tutorial helps - a little.

  • @skillcollector9800
    @skillcollector9800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was just thinking about getting some of these, perfect timing!

  • @jackchappell001
    @jackchappell001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see you're using the Sawstop lift. I'm in the process of finding a nice router table, lift, fence, and the router itself. Would you please tell me what you are using for these? Thanks, your help is very much appreciated.

  • @JT_70
    @JT_70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of those bits and some nylon set-up blocks a number of years ago but have never tried using them. Had great plans but never got back to them.

  • @mariushegli
    @mariushegli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.

  • @cobberpete1
    @cobberpete1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I gave up on the lock miter bit years ago. Had so much trouble with them. Maybe I should try again

  • @richardkunicki5684
    @richardkunicki5684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one of these cutters and have never used it because I have been unsuccessful setting up. I will try again. Thanks

  • @loueubank4399
    @loueubank4399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video! I am always reluctant to use my lock miter bit because of set up time but when I finally get the setup right, it is a great joint. Now that I know a more streamlined way of setup, it will get more use!

  • @rudispruell883
    @rudispruell883 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James, I value your vids. I try to catch all of them, even on an aspect that I do not currently engage in. You teach ways of thinking, which is always beneficial. And, who knows, the need for the specific skill or information may arise, and I will have some familiarity and know a source for greater knowledge. Keep on keepin' on.
    ps- I have bought several recommended products, especially safety oriented ones.

  • @Cigarholzworth
    @Cigarholzworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid video, no fluff..excellent work

  • @criswilson1140
    @criswilson1140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I never thought of doing both ends of the test piece and then cutting them apart to check the joint, I've just been using two test pieces. Thanks for that tip!

    • @chrisjacobs7434
      @chrisjacobs7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? How many pieces of new knowledge can you shove into a quickie video?
      Stumpy Nubs: hold my kooshie'd can

    • @zapa1pnt
      @zapa1pnt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisjacobs7434: That sounds like something I, Really, don't want to do. 😲😳

  • @raymontella2251
    @raymontella2251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They sell those little guide templates make it pretty easy to set up although there for a specific size stock. The hard part is standing the piece up on end. if I wanted to do the corners of a draw with a lock miter that’s a dangerous cut. you need to check to hold that piece of stock really tight. I’d love to see you do a lock miter on an end cut

  • @richragan4810
    @richragan4810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great instruction on such a misunderstood bit James. Thank you!

  • @jeffmason398
    @jeffmason398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you James. I want to us some wenge to make a box. I like miter joints with splines, but in this case i just want to see wenge all around. However wenge is very oily and i suspect that it won't glue up very well. What to do? Then i remembered your vid. Well, i'm off to another technique. (Note to all: i've seen lots of vids on wenge dust being toxic and recommending a respirator. Splinters are bad too - very bad.)

  • @henrysiegertsz8204
    @henrysiegertsz8204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautifully simple explanation!

  • @stevesshaperorigin9174
    @stevesshaperorigin9174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful!! I had given up on using this bit. I’m will be trying this technique soon.

  • @allthegear-noidea1264
    @allthegear-noidea1264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s like you know what I’m working on and struggling with! Thanks so much!

  • @vincentpotter5721
    @vincentpotter5721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your workshop I’m thinking of getting one of those router tables

  • @rosnyleroy1938
    @rosnyleroy1938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful information. Thank you.

  • @bruce-le-smith
    @bruce-le-smith 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you James, this is very very helpful

  • @DanHoke
    @DanHoke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You feeling ok? I hope so. Love your work. Stay strong.

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My voice sounds a little raspy whenever we film early in the morning :)

  • @daveweigle4090
    @daveweigle4090 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree set up blocks are a waste of money. I love lock miters and always use up a lot of scrap setting them up. This makes it so much easier. Thanks.

  • @Sawblade02
    @Sawblade02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, I've been on the fence with getting those bits for a couple of years.

  • @makermark67
    @makermark67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tip. Thanks for this, James.

  • @woodworking4459
    @woodworking4459 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 what does speed limit do you recommend? I am working with Bosch Gof 1600
    The range is between 10 000 and 25 000
    Thank you

  • @davidmiller4594
    @davidmiller4594 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *AWESOME Tutorial Stump!*

  • @markmurdocca2456
    @markmurdocca2456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir! Excellent, well explained, detailed explanation of how to set up these bits. I'm using these bits for the first time and am going crazy with "trial and error" to get the fit right. Your intelligent explanation has set me straight. FYI, for this type of bit, good idea recommending Whiteside or other top-of-the-line. I got a cheap set of multi sizes and it makes a mess with hardwood.

  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can confirm, whiteside bits ARE awesome. If you are someone who just got a router and started out with one of those lower priced ($40-$75+) variety sets, I highly suggest replacing the ones you actually use with Whiteside bits one at a time. You probably won't find that you use a lot of them if you are a hobbyist, so you don't need to go replace them all at once. But as you use some of them more and more, spend the extra bit - no pun intended, well, some intention - to get a Whiteside replacement. I was doing a lot of box joints with my cheapo 1/4 straight bit, and I finally upgraded to a spiral upcut bit (RU-4700 iirc), and it was a night and day difference.

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing with James! Great information. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👋👋

  • @brianbelliveau5551
    @brianbelliveau5551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job I don’t have a bit yet but. I want to get one thanks for the update

  • @dominicdiclemente8877
    @dominicdiclemente8877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great timing, I am about to order my lock miter bit

  • @fraserdavidson8010
    @fraserdavidson8010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, much easier than some of the other methods I have seen. One thing I do need help on though is how to avoid chip out on plywood end grain when routing the vertical cut, if you have a tip, be great to see..

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have to make a zero-clearance fence face. It's a little tricky to plunge the bit into it, but we may make a video about it sometime.

  • @benblackwell44
    @benblackwell44 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done presentation. I got acceptable test results on the 3rd try using MDF scraps. If I were making columns where the routing is done in the long grain direction, I would be ready to go. Personally I am more interested in building drawer boxes which will require end grain routing, at least with real wood. I think holding the drawer side stock for end grain routing will be more difficult than the setup process.

    • @monteporche5552
      @monteporche5552 ปีที่แล้ว

      What I do is I take a large blank and make the cut for the drawer ends, then I cut the blank down to the height of the drawer sides. I find its a little easier to work with a larger piece.

  • @chrisjacobs7434
    @chrisjacobs7434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Perfect example of referencing off your material. So much easier than spending time at a calculator pretending you're ready to teach algebra or trig.

  • @agriszalmans3581
    @agriszalmans3581 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello is there a bit for 6mm mdf or not? Thank you, nice video.👍👍👍

  • @richardsorge-
    @richardsorge- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful tip. Also Bill Hylton in his " woodworking with the router " book gives a good method for adjusting this tricky bit;

  • @tiemann5
    @tiemann5 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video!

  • @bassoonman1562
    @bassoonman1562 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for explaining and the demo

  • @bahlowme
    @bahlowme ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and your right I'm scared to try this but feel like I can now. New follower.

  • @Kris-82
    @Kris-82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your tips with router

  • @richemmrich1858
    @richemmrich1858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to use this joint with plywood panels that are too large for a router table. Can you demonstrate how to set up a hand held router to do this? Tia

  • @michaeld8200
    @michaeld8200 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you cut the test pieces and there is a gap on the face, which way do you adjust the bit height? Up or down🤔. Thank yooo!😁

  • @stevesivell3224
    @stevesivell3224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the tutorial

  • @ELCADAROSA
    @ELCADAROSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m about as “amateur” as an amateur woodworker can be, and I’ve used the smaller Whiteside locking bit a few times in over the years.
    I have to agree, it isn’t difficult to get setup and works consistently time and again.

  • @foogod4237
    @foogod4237 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just curious: Why not do the ruler trick _first,_ right after eyeballing the height and fence, before cutting any test pieces? It seems to me this would be a good way to dial it in much more exactly initially and reduce the number of test cuts and tweaks you need to do to actually get it right (possibly only requiring one test cut to confirm it is, in fact, correct).

  • @jamescole1786
    @jamescole1786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent info on set-up of lock miter router bit. Oh, that's a mighty fine looking router table you are using! How about a little 'show & tell' on that...& previous router table?👨‍🔧 Thanks!

  • @bigmarkymark9669
    @bigmarkymark9669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm about to use this freehand. Any suggestions?

  • @codigitty9195
    @codigitty9195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. I just got one of these and was planning on setting it up today. Amazing timing on the video!