My only disagreement was with you telling the boy there was so much power it could turn him into a puddle. I'm certain there'd be nothing left except smoke.
I have it on good authority that there will be some black soot as well (a friend has been to a call at a substation after someone broke in to steal copper)
we got this horrible safety talk from a guy who accidently had arc jump to his arm from high voltage line and it just burned his arm like a stick of wood he was a mess hard to believe he survived. they gave him job of traveling around doing safety talks.
I have a memory from when I was 3 or 4 of my mom telling me to stay back from the (tenth floor) balcony railing because if I was to fall over there'd be nothing left of me but some dust. I still remember thinking thinking that sounded highly implausible.
Thank you for what you do and teaching children and some adults as well.Following procedures for safe work is essential .Shedding loads ,especially on older breakers and discomnects is important.Breakers for old equipment are getting harder to find ,not ro mention the approved hardware for them .Stay safe work Safe
It's great you get your kids involved. It can be a very lucrative career if they go for it and they will have a healthy head start. Also just in general good for them to understand it from a safety standpoint.
My experience with having a headstart is: it makes it that much more difficult to sit through all the lessons you already know. I still think it's worth it for me, but it alienates you from other people in general and those who believe they should know better than you even more.
Really interesting (and fairly accurate, in my experience as well) viewpoint, @NOS. I'm hoping to pass to them the patience, respect, and curiosity to still glean information from those "repeat lessons"
And even if its not the career they go into, its still great life knowledge. I shadowed my dad as a kid and as an apprentice for several years (He was a commercial plumber) and learned so many things even in other trades just by working next to the other trades. I ended up going into IT, but am still thankful for all I learned and I can do most things on my own now construction and repair wise.
Hey Joel, love all the work you do. at around the 6 minute mark when you had your boys on camera, i dont know if your oldest was protesting to being on camera. you raise your kids how you want but maybe have a talk about what they are ok with in conjunction with being on camera.
@@urbanws1234 sometimes people dont talk to their kids about how they feel. im sure Joel is a great dad but that doesnt mean we cant point out where things can be done better.
@@danielbricker7928 That is not your place to "point out" Anyhting. Development in life has many uncomfortable situations some short lived some not. You have no clue any Prior Conversations that took place or the Condition of being there with Their Father who they all know Makes TH-cam Videos. Taking a step back beforehand and Worrying About the Feelings of the minor child is A fools task Given the fact that no harm will befall them in the actions that were taken. That said, the samne applies to any forethoughgt of the Upcoming situation. There was a time when Men Knew this and kept their fool Mouths Shut. Its about time we return to that spot.
@@urbanws1234 i have no idea what goes on behind the camera. but i have every right to post my thought on this public website. Joel doesnt have to do anything i say, nor do you. i felt that pointing out the clear discomfort of the child to the man was a good idea, and i still think it is. enjoy being a self righteous Karen, but you dont bother me any.
We had an obsolete Motor Control Panel at work, it still gives me nightmares on how we kept Band-aiding and Baling Wire it together. All because they were too cheap to get a contractor in to replace it.
I work as maintenance in a facility with panels and motor control centers from the mid 60's, motor starter parts are unobtainium and breakers can be fun to find
@@ElectricProAcademy usually a google search for whatever I need and if I find it, I call whomever has it and buy it with a credit card, have had no luck with parts for 1960's GE motor starters, those end up replaced with new non-rebuildable junk which seems to be all you can get now
@@Kubla84 We were having some work done on one of our fire systems at work and the main breaker for the fire pump had broke when shutting it down, needless to say we got lucky that someone was able to rebuild it. Its only about 20yrs old but its not made anymore and impossible to find, would have been a hell of a time rebuilding that fire panel all for a new main.
MSEE here. Great install but the only thing I’d done differently is take a wire brush grinder to the surface of the buss bars to knock off the oxide layer and any potential human created oils. That alone can impact conductivity. Great video thanks for sharing!
Another reason I always keep my trusty Ideal AC/DC clamp on multimeter 😊 on me at all times while doing panel replacements particularly on older buildings, is because sometimes there is a center tapped delta three phase service. For those unaware, this service gives you 3 voltages of 120/208/240, or in very rare services, 240/415/480 volts, and the phase with the higher voltage to ground should have been colored orange and land on the B phase in the panel, but older panels sometimes had the high leg land on C or A phase and might be something other than orange, and there is a risk of smoking up equipment in the building if your careless with the high leg. TEST, TEST, AND VERIFY. CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH. SAFETY FIRST.
@@nateo200 😂😂 same here. When I began my apprenticeship it took a little bit of time to understand the concept. Although the high leg setup is rarely used today except in highly specialized applications, nonetheless we as electricians must be aware of it and always use a suitable meter to verify voltages, relying solely on colors or labels to tell you the system you're working on is playing Russian Roulette.
Actually I saw this once in a residential install believer or not apparently it had been used for other things as primarily being used for the large motor loads such as AC compressor and so on but there is obviously connections to 3-phase throughout the place clearly somebody had some pretty heavy power knees and yes it went to other outbuildings as well we suspect someone had a very large shop possibly machine shop even heavy power equipment even in the basement and judging by the incoming service and how everything was set up there were few Transformers as well almost all everything was had been disconnected at the service even Breakers locked out and disconnect switch is locked in the open position so they were very serious about the work that was being done and when they were not using things even handwritten labels as to what was served heavy equipment for sure but can't remember all what was there but definitely remember one saying chiller another said Mill and many more there was at least 2:50 amp 3-phase plugs as well just in the basement alone probably largest electrical service I'd ever seen in residential even fairly large even for something like a farm back in the day even this was before a lot of heavier loads what worm farms would have. Store Riverdale Church originally only hand single-phase power coming in really the only things that needed to 3-phase at least initially would have been the organ blower motor in the elevator the elevator is a primary reason to has rephrase coming in however later on with us he's got updated the three-phase was put to better use. Still remember having to reset Breakers all the time we did knockout one feeder was quite by accident during the Christmas present rehearsal one year we're only pulling a thousand extra Juan's took out the whole feeder everything was so overloaded as it was didn't even trip any other Breakers or the feeder itself. News the electrical system that a church like the back of my hand good reason to! Also one time me and my father were there we heard this something bumping a regular intervals the realize it was coming from the Bell Tower. The chorus got the keys went up there what it was was the old exhaust blower or possibly Supply Air I can't remember it was just fun circulation all the time within the church to exchange air! It turns out is the drive belts have been replaced this is no v-belt straight up leather belt thrive that thing had to be ancient. Apparently at one time the Oregon bar may have been belt-driven or possibly had some auxiliary equipment someone had suggested possibly vitamin A small DC generator clearly there was somebody else Mountain years ago and have been well-used but that piece of equipment was long gone on the blower motor and also it seemed like the motor was rated much more than it needed for just the blower itself. Originally I was thinking that possibly there's a different truck motor and the other motor was newer. he motor in the Bell Tower. Was probably 1 largest I've seen in a long time at least in an application like this ancient for sure! About the next largest or thereabouts they have been bigger hard to say was the original blower in the commercial kitchen in church recently it was almost at ceiling hard this is for the exhaust system that was a real Beast. Keep in mind they only had single phase at the time so you can imagine the size of these motors in the current draw I don't even know how many horsepower but they were ginormous. Apparently somebody did save the motor from the exhaust system important years somewhere something special is what I said it turns out they were really into over a logical and reusing things to give something a bit of character and something that would keep on running then was in good shape. Hard to believe with all the old equipment just ran so well almost like that was new even though it was.. well ancient! It turns out that the reason why that something was going on against the belt had been replaced even the old felt had just been slipped off the pulleys just left you still in one piece probably didn't take the effort to remove it fully although I I did remove it for some leather to use for some things that was kind of useful not exactly something I'd be able to get a hold of otherwise! Sensitive belts had be spliced until it wears in it's quite noisy you because everytime we would hit the bully you get that thump. Remember my grandad show me how they would set up the leather belts on the tractor and getting everything to aligned properly it was kind of interesting. Also I'd seen remnants of wine shops in places as well that I've been at. Some people have literally called me a genius-level at repairing things over the years and getting things working in that weren't or even technicians and more of Sunday how could you figure it out how did you get working again. Literally had some servisfirst no dumbfounded that I can even get it going. They're fact I work in a few workshops and occasionally the people that were the main heads of getting things taken care of and so on would actually get me to take a look if there was problems and other people are scratching their heads got that gun again in record time. And yeah I've been called the real life MacGyver more than enough times on top of this. One incident which well probably shouldn't have happened because of the nature safety devices and so on but we had forklift have a mind of its own as they called it at that point. Something happened cannot remember all the details actually is probably multiple things at the same time it would have to lead this situation. Electric forklift. Basically everything was essentially full bore on top speed and out of control they tried everything couldn't shut the same down just kept on very much like Energizer Bunny. This was one time I literally crowbarred something happened to see a crowbar and I knew exactly where I can easily German crowbar in and sort out the power after the main fuse. Nice big bang as well but you got to do what you got to do an emergency! That cover on there was long gone so is easy enough to get to. By the way the battery connector contacts at welded themselves together for some reason at that time as well so that didn't work either definitely many failures simultaneously to to cause all these various issues simultaneously and yes there was a lot of damaged wiring through and much more one thing probably very bad designs did not help much either. And even if there was any type of bushings or otherwise they were no longer present. I was asked to fix things up a bit and make it to this going to happen again at least to keep any repairs from being damaged again and potentially reoccurring also there was a disconnect switch installed accessible to driver just in case. This was by my insistence I found out later few years later that the same thing it happened but different circumstances and they shut it off using that disconnect switch. For the reasons that we definitely needed to shut the unit down the first time and somebody was hidden behind the loaded forks surprise Dave we're okay but things could have been a lot worse. One time they had another runaway forklift and went off the end of the loading dock not good this was one of the LP gas operator forklift good thing he bailed out quite a bit of flames there at least had the sense to bailout! Even going off the end of the dock could have been really bad news for him not to mention the vehicle. Heard also wants someone wanted up going to the opposite end of a trailer as well. Where the funniest thing is well at least when it was funny but we called cheese can or otherwise dip cans versus forklift surprisingly well depending on which way you looked at it the can one as in terms of as flattering everything everywhere and they get big mess. This is more common than you think yep big-time cleanup! By the way there were times that somebody got something there only and would have to use the eyewash station because the some of the stuff was quite spicy and would actually burn your eyes if this happened. When we're doing labeling once we relabeled for institutional use. We were not required to wear safety glasses when doing any of this work but probably would have been better to have this in the first place could avoid getting anything's wider than your eyes as well as this situation! I had a tiny chip of the label glue come off when I was removing the original label the course right in the eye. Needless to say after that and the time got that hot stuff in my face and all over me in my eyes you better bet I'd wear safety glasses. I did did get to the eyewash station which was right next to that Beltline!
Also there's a circumstance that kind of got not everything but it was intentional and got a good laugh and got some eyebrows raised and yeah of course and no damage could have been done nor anyone free injured or otherwise of course but not something you should do even this Aurora said that he would have done this eventually anyways and had thought about it many a times here we go. And if anyone knows about three phase power how about her can be easily reversed we were having a really down time that people become dumb. Just everyone's complaining and just kind of sick of things and we knew you would laugh to get people or at least a few eyebrows raised. I got permission to do this I was doing some service work and would not affect safety in any way of course nothing shut down during lunch hour just before actually how to do a bit of work on one of the pieces of equipment yeah power cable had come loose and was in danger of causing some issues checklist causing a little bit of controlled Mayhem and just getting the eyebrows in a good laugh potentially and he said go for it And he said that he'd even want to do this at least once if not more on one of those days where everybody was just had enough or just so bored whatever and 90 fun while. Simple enough I was in there already just checking connections and also our to the same prison what is the cordless being redone. At the plug for the border for the conveyor belt that is on the male end of the Claude just reverse two or three phases equals motor in Reverse! So when I came back power on and everybody was staying there or bursting out laughing or like what the and everything coming back the spelled that really made the day for everyone and everyone walked out of there with smile that day! They need everyone did of course don't attempt this this is not something that would cause any damage or any issues if this was done this is not something you'd know what to do but under the circumstances there would have been no damage or injury or anyting else but it was just some good healthy humor for a change and just even around the area people gawking and laughing yeah definitely was in need of a pickup around there. Most of the people at least in personal line or just like a standing there couldn't even moved or just like so wide-eyed and your future is but then in the end just laughing out loud yeah pretty cool was a good gag. Don't worry would not have done any damage to equipment either of course otherwise would not have been done besides that need to be taken out of service for few repairs anyways! Of course I was standing by the disconnect so that could easily once the deed was done shut down right away it's kind of cool but my supervisor said I could do it and said yeah where everyone needs a bit of a laugh once in awhile and it's cool to get to do something like that you give her one of the nice surprise and I did laugh
I only ran into a high leg delta on an old factory 600 amp 3 phase MCC .We were lucky that the contractor had left the z bus in a plastic bag at bottom of MCC.Enough for 3 more spare breakers .Don't remember the voltages but one leg was taped orange
If in doubt over the main breaker capabilities? You could have the entire load dumped out at the pole. Whenever I work with electricians at an older service/main breaker. I offer to open the primary switches. As a lineman we have our switches 2 feet apart. We use arc suppressing tools to extinguish the flash. The most I get is a little spark.
I missed what voltage you were working with, but I'm sure 208,240,480 3phase, you need some arc flash gear on. Level 1 or 2, shorts and a tee shirt is not protecting you. Once you opened covers you should have maintained a safe working distance for non electrical personnel ie. Boss 1,2,3. If you going to teach the next generation teach the safety also please.
That's what I was thinking, too. And the gloves he's wearing are not appropriate PPE. (they'll protect from cuts, but not power and fire.) Do they know what the upstream protection is rated? 400A? 200A? That's potentially a mighty big flash.
I have a feeling there's probably going to be a few more electricians in the future for sure in this family I'm assuming their family in this case myself I was rewiring lamps at 4 and 5 years old that's how early learn basic electrical. Even before that understood most of the basics of electrical systems. He might think I'm joking here but I'm serious in that respect and also my first word was my mommy or daddy or Dad or Mom but my first word was actually Outlet as in a receptacle. People said I was literally born to be working on things and doing repairs. I was actually doing electrical work even when I was quite Young of course falling all safety precautions but everything else. Was a bit late on getting going on soldering when I was a kid for electronics because my dad had a bad experience with soldering iron once it was all scared because he really messed up his fingers with pretty bad burn. Me and my father were repairing that you'll hairdryer had to put in a new diode it was just use to cut back power for either heating element ornamotor cannot remember which you know the old trick of half wave rectification to cut output power essentially like the old school high low off dimmer switches. Actually have a little box it's essentially a nice big chunky diode to be a a way to cut back the output of linings for low-level Lights by just using standard incandescent bulbs of course fused and has a ground and even a thermal fuse this was Obama design there's a relay to bypass and a relay for off although this was never used what was in place possibly even for future automation and yeah there is a bypass switch as well just built into it small Project Box the original one I built basically just had one of those tags strips with a grounded female fog and the diode and a fuse in a female receptacle can't remember if I had a second quarter Accord as the outfit and just a female in there or single receptacle on the outfit had use that one never but it still around somewhere also good for taming down Christmas lights and other things as well I think I would have given it to someone that wanted to use some personal size for low-level lighting he just needed a bit of light at night in some rooms and they other rooms like this as well I basically built a bunch of these devices for this and also had a switch on a cord as well the thing is that dimming wasn't needed just either full-on or fall off or just a half wave rectification only made a lot less expensive than trying to use some sort of dimmer had all the parts anyways. Something of Interest lawn friends came up with he was a guitar enthusiast and he had a gag cable that was 40 said was the only true electric guitar cable there was! It looked what would have been a male grounded plug going to the other end and guitar cable recorder inch Jack of course however absolutely zero internal clock the connections in fully insulated does a gag of course but yet it got some people's attention when he pulled the thing out and yes it was a luminating plugged to get the point across that looks like there's actually power there he had me build this forum it was one of those things that if somebody just like their eyes pop out of their head if they even see it for an AC and plug it in before plugging in the guitar that is something that you do if you wanted to get attention or in the end get a good laugh yeah but yeah it really makes someone jump out of their skin is well it's one of the things that you know you got to have some sort of gag here in there or something to get someone's eyebrows raised. And I also made him another one that was what he called the direct box Hannah powerful and cord coming out one end and quarter-inch Jack on the other same idea complete with a neon indicator to make it look like it's actually live. And he also uses these for these so-called play something live is the great gag if you do it right and make sure there's no chance of anything actually being connected to 120 If anyone has ever seen the movie Young Einstein you get the idea what might happen it will sort of this was not the case! Unseen 20-volt devices built from Surplus military components and all and him actually told components of what appears to be a telephone system or otherwise might not be that far off how someone might have come up with something years ago. For example first flight simulator was actually offering from an organ console. Also first power wheelchair was actually built from Surplus for spares from aircraft and other parts in the military! Actually once built this power karke I don't know what good call it wasn't really a wheelbarrow but it could be used as such essentially you just charge the thing up had some pretty beachy motors for Drive don't remember what they were from possibly some sort of accessibility vehicle but don't know they're just something someone had lying around you go ahead with the welding in all but he had built this for his folks and himself to move stuff around I'm very big place and it was helpful since a lot of stuff was on a pretty steep hill that's all very long driveway. Those run off a few deep cycle batteries plus it had the ability to provide Power for other things as well including a power inverter and the charger was on board write down to having a short cord reel for recharging and one for power out. The steering and everything was pretty unique as well it sorta look like the cross between some gigantic Garden card and a power jack. The dump bed was actually hydraulic! Yankton hydraulic power pack out of something that was pretty much done for and no longer use still can't remember what it was Just one of those little interesting things have someone come up with that was quite useful in the circumstances I do remember it had knobby tires on the thing as well which I think we're off something else as well if I remember correctly. Also nothing even the same person can't remember we came up with what we called the Volkswagen as in voltage and wagon. One of those adult Radio Flyer wagons you can get for my garden uses stuff loaded up batteries portable power in since they had an off-grid cabins as well. So basically you'd have power you can bring with you when you're doing things then yes is burger and everything else as well as a small engine alternator and alternator and yes the frame and everything was beefed up to take all the weight and even a connection panel in the rear for everything pretty beefy connectors as well this could actually be connected to the electrical system of the cabin directly. Including having onboard dc-to-dc converters various voltages output heck this could even be useful for those low voltage power input wire feed welders that's been for off-grid. Used quite often for welding as far as the idea. Of course everything probably built and overload protection and so on you wouldn't do it any other way because of that much power going that thing short circuit would be a really bad idea
You should have put in a circuit breaker. I can clearly see that there is space. You might have to get a after market but it's possible. Dont be cheep your in a school. Use copper next time. Also, I would like to see the study from a PE allowing you to make that tap.
Looks like a typical electrical contractor hack job. That panel had a place for several more breakers. Breaker stand offs are super easy to make. Just flat copper bar stock and a press brake. I would also disagree with the use of flex between two rigidly mounted panels. That all just spells lazy and unskilled craftsman that dosent want to take the time to install raceway or bend conduit. I belive most states require a engineering study for extended unprotected taps like that and usaly its required to be in ridgid conduit or raceway. I really don't like the way most modern electricians work. It's all about hacking it together to get done as fast as possible. I like to have pride in my work.
Exercising that main breaker is apart of routine maintenance. If it doesn’t reset it is bad, if it’s bad it’s time to replace. There are a few options to temporarily keep them running while the gear takes 28 years to come in
That brush is designed for copper pipe. When turned in the Wrong Direction on pipe it actually damages the Brush. I noticed the Glow from the 3 Green LEDS on the other Switch before You mentioned the Fan running. Mike M.
Doing commercial work on that service main you should have been wearing arc flash PPE while opening and closing the circuit breakers and testing the mains for voltage. NFPA 70E requires a limited approach boundary for exposed energized conductors being worked live and during the LOTO and de-energizing process.
So Joel, I see you always use Di-grease on new connections, will you be applying it to the existing connections while you are in there? If not then would you re-torque the other connections as a matter of course or leave well enough alone?
as long as the conductor is shiny enough it doesn't matter however turning the brush in one direction only I assume lessens the amount of wear on the brush.
I think the only thing you guys need more than labeling the focus controls for your cameraman is some real PPE. Kids weren't even wearing safety glasses and it looks like a lot of those clothes are synthetics that will melt and stick like napalm even just from a flash. FR para-aramid is the best, but at minimum stick to natural fibers and stuff like merino wool. I'd also really recommend taking DeWalt off your list, just google "dewalt battery won't charge". They've got a massive widespread issue with defective batteries and there's people who've been chasing them on social media for months trying to get a warranty serviced.
And those kids should not have been that close if that panel was live, especially not on the face side of the panel. One wrong move that caused an arc flash, and they'd all be blind and have massive burns in an instant.
So true. Only applies to a panel thats supplied with primary line voltage. Such a in primary metering. I worked in a hospital power room that was primary medium voltage. Had to wear special arc flash suits and gear. I hated wearing that heavy gear. Even when i had the power switchef off to the panel i was working in, there was still power in the panels next to one i was working in.
The direction of spinning those cleaners doesn’t really matter as far as how it cleans. The reason plumbers say one way is because they’re designed specifically for certain pipe sizes and the bristles are angled so going back and forth will wear them down sooner. On new brushes it’s next to impossible to even turn the wrong way. Though as they wear down, ll go backwards a few times and this pushes the bristles back so they’ll clean better
When drilling larger holes, let the drill bit and figure out which way it will snap. Then move both hands to the free (no crush) side of the drill so even if it slams, you can throw some touch up paint on everything except for your crushed fingers 👍
In the uk industrial and some commercial distribution cabinets on commercial or industrial premises where they are directly connected to the transformer we call them widow makers because attempting to work on them live one wrong move and bang your dead as most industrial in the uk are 400amp per phase at the supply and most commercials are 100amp but 230v per phase
Did you work out the incident energy on that panel? Just asking out of interest. One thing I would always do after proving no power is to go on with a thermal camera it can pick up any errant problems not easily visible…your youngest is a carbon copy of you….. Chag kasher v’sameach…
From new, if a tool does not have a arrow indicating which way to turn it, turn it evenly both ways forever. Bristles or blade, either way you want to wear them evenly.
At least as far as car battery terminals, lead not copper, true, the warning is that a steel brush leaves grooves in the metal, which allow air, moisture, and corrosion. I'd guess "only one way" damages the cable less, but would still think an anticorrosive paste should be used to seal those "brushed" cables from corrosion.
they use a copper grease to coat ends of wires and connectors in big motor control centers and high voltage wires for big 3 phase motors so they don't corrode over time and make connections get hot and such. but those are thousands of volts and hundreds of amps.
As a plumber wants to minimize potential leaks, they only go in one (circular) direction. Sparkies don't have to worry about that, but as others point out, it can increase the surface for oxidation. (assuming it isn't dipped in no-ox.)
Not a huge fan of just the wiring insulation separating the wires and the bars across all 3 phases. That just seems like a fire hazard in the future waiting to happen. I'd definitely double insulate where the wires were touching the bars. God knows if that insulation melts or fails in some way that crap is going to hit the fan quick.
Really don't need to use the noalox there unless you are just used to it. Modern aluminum cable doesn't require it. Doesn't the flex require a bonding bushing?
Ya. Try and remove and upgrade from the 1940s. And. Be careful. Without the power being on. Some of the buildings I’ve been in …. Have the builders panel still hot when entire building is off
Unbelievable what electrical regulations and standards there are in the USA... I am glad that I am an electrician in Germany... Please do not use uninsulated tools in open cabinets which are under voltage.
Well pretty much all the cells in your body have been replaced after 10 years... So quit letting customers get away with the "I'm old and I still work excuse".
This man is not a professional he does not have a hard hat on no rubber mat on the floor working in electrical gear without another electrician on site
I'm finding it interesting how Americans install the breakers horizontally. Definitely a strange look for me. Here in Czechia we install them all vertically with "On" position up and "Off" position down.
You're welcome :) . There's plenty of interesting differences between our installations. One thing that fascinates me is the piping you people do. Seems like a lot of work. Haven't seen much of that around here basically through my whole 17 years career. We usually go for openable or permanently open sheet metal or wire box channels where we just slap the cable in there, tie it in and forget. Metal pipes are pretty rare and usually used only where extra heavy protection is needed. And even then it's usually not screwed right in to the breaker box.
Hey there if I'm correct. That's a pair of Irwin vise-grip slip joint pliers he has in his hand? Got a pair of these quite a while back for my normal even household tool kit! Seriously if anyone has even one pair of pliers this is probably the way they should go for adjustable! Those are so much better easier to use never had any trouble with them. To be honest they still look brand new at least my pair! There's been so many times that I've struggled or would have and this really was best type to have in the toolkit. Even the artery tightened up is a shower curtain rod we put in when I moved in. I wish I could find a pair of magnetic soft Jaws to fit these pliers were possibly just soft Jaws I can easily slip on somehow or an equivalent that would just hold in place in some manner. I was even thinking about using those what I call clamp pads essentially half rounded slide over protection for the jaws of C clamps. And possibly other tools as well got those from Harbor Freight haven't tried them yet but I have a set but not where I'm at! I was even thinking about possibly somehow having magnets on these two easily attached to my Irwin vise-grip slip joint pliers. Plenty of times where soft y'all would have been much better but usually have to jerry-rig something! That shower curtain rod wasn't too concerned about a few scratches. However one of many crimes it would be better to have some way to cushion the drawers and still get a good grip. Any suggestions for this of any type would be appreciated this is something I've been trying to figure out for a while so many times needing to tighten up something that would be good idea not to scratch up. Such as nice shower head or other Plumbing installation. Plenty of other things as well! By the way I got those vise-grip pliers on Amazon unfortunately don't have a link. I'd suggest anyone out there have a pair of these he won't go back I'd say when the best pair of pliers at least an adjustable variety I've used on my life. Also don't skip on the size of your your pliers or you'll regret it in the end. Also worth having a pair of water pump pliers available works great for all sorts of things even if sometimes trying to level up Appliance where you're having trouble getting ahold of the levellers works better sometimes for water pump pliers. Reason we had a pair of these before is the residential irrigation system real pain in the neck to service the sprinkler head otherwise and yes recommended if you have an irrigation system installed and you do any work yourself there's Australis perfectly wrench for the sprinkler heads worth investing in it's sort of a weird-looking offset wrench you could say! Also the water pump pliers are good for any type of connections that are just hard the work was otherwise even occasionally used it to get off a stuck hose clamp. One nice thing about those vise-grip slip joint is there actually not as wide acrossed is some others are so things like leveling appliances it's much easier to get in the Gap easily where others were just too wide to get in there definitely a bonus to have a narrower jaw but yet plenty thick enough to get the job done but not 2 wide that you can't get in somewhere. Had some more circumstances many times now so basically it was paid for itself. Also the drawers do have a very good grip wish for others I cannot say are as good definitely worth the investment. Even the handles feel really good in the hand and pretty much non-slip just a bit of cushioning sometimes all you need to do things comfortably as well. And what they say with getting tools get the right one get a good one get it once or the equivalent definitely this counts as one of those
Why not use a hole punch rather than a hole saw? Its quicker, safer (less chance of kickback if you use an impact), and doesnt leave tons of conductive metal bits inside the enclosure
For the exclusive task of knockouts, we agree, they're better. The 2 advantages of hole saws in our opinion are cost and flexibility: They are cheaper to replace and can be used in other situations like cutting through framing. Not only is the startup cost of buying an electrical knockout tool expensive, but each size "bit" is pretty pricey too. If you're not buying an electrical knockout tool, then we'd argue it's probably not faster than the hole saw. Thoughts? If you've got a sweet knockout kit deal for us we're all ears!
so disappointed you didn't put on the fireproof giant insulated spacesuit like they do at powerplants opening the 11,000-volt breaker panels those poor guys wear that thing in 90-degree heat must be an inch of sweat in their boots LOL
The only thing I seen that you could do is the lugs that you're tied into the main busbar busbar should have been already threatened or you use self tapping approve lexical bolts and the wire should have came in at the same angle on the top. Using washers and stuff is a bad ideal it looks very Mickey mouse.
Do you never tire of me talking about terminating lugs? Everytime I say something about torque or otherwise I'm picturing all of you rolling your eyes....'not again'
Don't know about your laws, but; 1. We would not be having anyone around the board when its open - there would be an exclusion zone that keeps them back at least 3 metres. 2. We would have condemned that old board - it's impossible to get parts for it, so it's a write-off. We wouldn't be allowed to bung or bodge stuff into this old thing. The board has broken parts! 3. If we tapped off - we'd be required to place double insulation on the crossing conductors. Excellent video otherwise.
Yeah but you guys in Australia aren’t allowed to do that much based on what I was told when I had my 3 phase installed in my house/garage here in New Zealand. I was allowed to dig my own trench, run my own cable, lots of stuff as a homeowner, I just couldn’t make connections within the panel.
As far as someone mentioning motor controls I remember seeing more than a few of these old-school guys really really old you know where most electricians say they don't make them like this anymore! Or they say this thing was made in the Stone Age! Also my father was having issues with one the church pipe organs at one of the churches. Regarding the Oregon boat blower in the motor controller! The blower motor was actually overheating not sure of of the issue I can't remember what was happening. If they had not happened to feel the blower motor it would never realized that it was so hot obviously something had gone wrong. The unit was resetting if I remember correctly however probably shouldn't but no one's for sure for sure what was going on. We've had many times had trouble with the blower motors are various organs and have to ignore repair things as well as replacement parts and sometimes these are difficult to repair or replace Parts since some of this stuff has probably been in service for well over fifty years. Some of it being original to the install. There have been many of times not just one of these Morgan blower motor controllers. When the electrician was basically scratching his head so they don't make them like this anymore as I've mentioned my father chimed in and said his son me could have fixed this in 20 minutes! He wasn't kidding either. I fix stuff that usually would be considered Beyond repair and got things going again that were well past probably at the point they need to be replaced. Sometimes just with one tool bag and some spare parts here in there sometimes all you need is just a few pieces of wire few Terminals and sometimes that's all you need occasionally soldering iron! Even do my dad's he organized and actually worked on pipe organs years ago Not only was an organist but had work at 1 the repair Oregon building shops years ago yeah the mechanical skills alright for this. When it was something beyond the mechanical operation Russellville more complex that's when I got called in. Occasionally get on call at home saying hey grab your tools everything you might need got a problem with the organ. Keep in mind we did have one the old organs that was actually being replaced in the upcoming years! The lot of the stuff didn't even work for example was the I believe was a small sheds or the others can't remember too long ago. One of the cables or rope had given way and the weight set phone into the wall being unretrievable. It was either modified or just left in default position ever since. By the way I did one up salvaging a lot of stuff out the old Oregon even my mother had thought about having something built from some of the old wood and other materials from the organ that would mean something perhaps a blanket chest but it wasn't feasible to do this unfortunately it would have been a nice gift. However I was able to salvage a lot of things actually went up having good usage! Even some rather interesting metal brackets and much more they were great for hanging things up however I did get some wood from the Oregon to make a coat rack for my father I actually build this at church in the workshop in the Boiler Room so it he would know is being built besides it has of tools there if we didn't at home! Darkroom when they've been up to the holes I needed! Not to mention salvaging a lot of low voltage components not just solenoids and much more who played the original power supplies. Lineup also getting some gifts from York & Company Sabrina icelab power supplies that were often used in the organ consoles. Turns out in addition to the masking of stuff I could use you know they is straight up ask me since I knew I was in the electronics and all got some Surplus stuff and your stuff is hanging around for years does carbonation action relays we're pretty sweet basically to coil single pole double throw relay and the pain that stuck out that was also the contacts was an actuator. Even run up using some of these on my Mall railroad for operating the points! Plus having that relay to potentially operator their functions switches were thrown. Just being troubles DC they broom quite strong. Still remember having to troubleshoot the new organ had to dig into the solid state logic even. Course we got all the specs including proper resistance of the solenoids for the slider chest. Everything checked out last thing to do was swap out one of the cards with another identical car than the system turns out one of the cards had one blown output. The part was overnighted installed that next day Good2Go. Although that's something that you usually do not have to do in the Bible organ was never a grounded wrist strap on. One thing I did for future is I had a little ground bar with banana jacks on there for future service since there was no ground readily available nearby. And actually later on the organ company had thank me for doing this and said that was a great idea did they wish that was installed initially. Just tied into the decent ground somewhere else! I'm surprised it was not at least a receptacle for a trouble light or otherwise in the vicinity. Had to run an extension cord to even ground my wrist strap! Even my father was salvaging stuff from me when you're overworking came out was a bit surprised. Also there was these neat little spindles. Basically my father got hold of anything he thought I can use for anything at all! I'm one of those people that if there was say a 25 pair or larger telephone cable leftover or had been pulled out or something of course that would get salvaged also that is right gauge for jumper wire and hook up wire for low-voltage projects in basically free. Also known people that work for the phone company so often. Goodies you could say. Hand-built mini intercom systems based on old phones as well. One thing what they should do is when in the end when basically all landline phone services are done for good. That is if someone's not using it for some sort of voice over IP or equivalent. Have a system to use the existing wire for intercom or other uses be ashamed to have all that in the wall already and not use for everything. Have done this many times where there's old phone lines are no longer in use or new Reliance with him for other means for doing this old networking lies just reusing wiring that's already in place. Ivanov alarm system is in much more and stuff it's obsolete people asked if I could do something with that when they had an idea what they wanted to do if it was feasible of course sometimes it exchanged for salvaging anything useful the parts are otherwise even. Many of times I've got it all the equipment out of places strictly for what's in it when it's obsolete or otherwise abandon
Mate a 400 amp breaker can break a full 400 amp load, its not even close to a risk, hell we open main breakers and drop 5000 amps per phase in the datacenter with no drama, cos the kits designed to do it safely. A breaker is only dangerous if you try and operate it out of specification, like breaking say 500 amps instead of its rated 400. The arc will still extinguish in less than 30ms okay it might take upto 0.02 seconds on a 50hz system, but typically arcs are extinguised and load is shed without risk. So why your saying a 400 amp breaker cant break 400 amps of current is beyond me, ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE FUCKING RAITING
There should be a fluxing inductor counter-current in the circuit to inhibit any current through the building while working. Let the electricity protect you instead!
Enjoy your vids but disagree with having youngsters (or any untrained/unqualified persons) on a job like this. Also, where is your arc flash gear/PPE, arc flash boundaries, etc.?
Why are you still using hole saws, Joel. Battery operated Knockout punches are quicker and do a better job and are usually safer. Great video. Russ from Oregon, 28 years in the Trade.
My only disagreement was with you telling the boy there was so much power it could turn him into a puddle. I'm certain there'd be nothing left except smoke.
I have it on good authority that there will be some black soot as well (a friend has been to a call at a substation after someone broke in to steal copper)
we got this horrible safety talk from a guy who accidently had arc jump to his arm from high voltage line and it just burned his arm like a stick of wood he was a mess hard to believe he survived. they gave him job of traveling around doing safety talks.
@@malcolmtaylor111 that happens a lot on railway tracks. Crazy people
I have a memory from when I was 3 or 4 of my mom telling me to stay back from the (tenth floor) balcony railing because if I was to fall over there'd be nothing left of me but some dust. I still remember thinking thinking that sounded highly implausible.
Right. We don't really melt into a puddle. We turn into bricks of carbon. But still a valid image of doom.
Anticlimactic means you did everything correctly. Nice work!!
You're a good father ,as well as a good electrician.
You need arc flash training/PPE.
Thank you for what you do and teaching children and some adults as well.Following procedures for safe work is essential .Shedding loads ,especially on older breakers and discomnects is important.Breakers for old equipment are getting harder to find ,not ro mention the approved hardware for them .Stay safe work Safe
It's great you get your kids involved. It can be a very lucrative career if they go for it and they will have a healthy head start. Also just in general good for them to understand it from a safety standpoint.
My experience with having a headstart is: it makes it that much more difficult to sit through all the lessons you already know.
I still think it's worth it for me, but it alienates you from other people in general and those who believe they should know better than you even more.
Really interesting (and fairly accurate, in my experience as well) viewpoint, @NOS. I'm hoping to pass to them the patience, respect, and curiosity to still glean information from those "repeat lessons"
And even if its not the career they go into, its still great life knowledge. I shadowed my dad as a kid and as an apprentice for several years (He was a commercial plumber) and learned so many things even in other trades just by working next to the other trades. I ended up going into IT, but am still thankful for all I learned and I can do most things on my own now construction and repair wise.
The connecting bars between the main buss and the breaker are collectively called a strap kit.
No arc flash gear?
Hey Joel, love all the work you do. at around the 6 minute mark when you had your boys on camera, i dont know if your oldest was protesting to being on camera. you raise your kids how you want but maybe have a talk about what they are ok with in conjunction with being on camera.
You make all the Comments you want But maybe dont make the stupid comments. But seariously just be yourself Minus the Stupid comments.
@@urbanws1234 sometimes people dont talk to their kids about how they feel. im sure Joel is a great dad but that doesnt mean we cant point out where things can be done better.
@@danielbricker7928 That is not your place to "point out" Anyhting. Development in life has many uncomfortable situations some short lived some not. You have no clue any Prior Conversations that took place or the Condition of being there with Their Father who they all know Makes TH-cam Videos. Taking a step back beforehand and Worrying About the Feelings of the minor child is A fools task Given the fact that no harm will befall them in the actions that were taken. That said, the samne applies to any forethoughgt of the Upcoming situation. There was a time when Men Knew this and kept their fool Mouths Shut. Its about time we return to that spot.
@@urbanws1234 i have no idea what goes on behind the camera. but i have every right to post my thought on this public website. Joel doesnt have to do anything i say, nor do you. i felt that pointing out the clear discomfort of the child to the man was a good idea, and i still think it is. enjoy being a self righteous Karen, but you dont bother me any.
@@danielbricker7928 Awww poor little Itty Bitty Baby Daniel. Don’t Cry it’s ok.
We had an obsolete Motor Control Panel at work, it still gives me nightmares on how we kept Band-aiding and Baling Wire it together. All because they were too cheap to get a contractor in to replace it.
I work as maintenance in a facility with panels and motor control centers from the mid 60's, motor starter parts are unobtainium and breakers can be fun to find
What's your go-to source?
@@ElectricProAcademy usually a google search for whatever I need and if I find it, I call whomever has it and buy it with a credit card, have had no luck with parts for 1960's GE motor starters, those end up replaced with new non-rebuildable junk which seems to be all you can get now
@@Kubla84 We were having some work done on one of our fire systems at work and the main breaker for the fire pump had broke when shutting it down, needless to say we got lucky that someone was able to rebuild it. Its only about 20yrs old but its not made anymore and impossible to find, would have been a hell of a time rebuilding that fire panel all for a new main.
MSEE here. Great install but the only thing I’d done differently is take a wire brush grinder to the surface of the buss bars to knock off the oxide layer and any potential human created oils. That alone can impact conductivity. Great video thanks for sharing!
Especially on something that old.
Apply antioxident only. The buss is silver coating over copper. Don't remove the silver by abrasion.
Another reason I always keep my trusty Ideal AC/DC clamp on multimeter 😊 on me at all times while doing panel replacements particularly on older buildings, is because sometimes there is a center tapped delta three phase service. For those unaware, this service gives you 3 voltages of 120/208/240, or in very rare services, 240/415/480 volts, and the phase with the higher voltage to ground should have been colored orange and land on the B phase in the panel, but older panels sometimes had the high leg land on C or A phase and might be something other than orange, and there is a risk of smoking up equipment in the building if your careless with the high leg. TEST, TEST, AND VERIFY. CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH. SAFETY FIRST.
The high leg set up is so freaking strange to me.
@@nateo200 😂😂 same here. When I began my apprenticeship it took a little bit of time to understand the concept. Although the high leg setup is rarely used today except in highly specialized applications, nonetheless we as electricians must be aware of it and always use a suitable meter to verify voltages, relying solely on colors or labels to tell you the system you're working on is playing Russian Roulette.
Actually I saw this once in a residential install believer or not apparently it had been used for other things as primarily being used for the large motor loads such as AC compressor and so on but there is obviously connections to 3-phase throughout the place clearly somebody had some pretty heavy power knees and yes it went to other outbuildings as well we suspect someone had a very large shop possibly machine shop even heavy power equipment even in the basement and judging by the incoming service and how everything was set up there were few Transformers as well almost all everything was had been disconnected at the service even Breakers locked out and disconnect switch is locked in the open position so they were very serious about the work that was being done and when they were not using things even handwritten labels as to what was served heavy equipment for sure but can't remember all what was there but definitely remember one saying chiller another said Mill and many more there was at least 2:50 amp 3-phase plugs as well just in the basement alone probably largest electrical service I'd ever seen in residential even fairly large even for something like a farm back in the day even this was before a lot of heavier loads what worm farms would have.
Store Riverdale Church originally only hand single-phase power coming in really the only things that needed to 3-phase at least initially would have been the organ blower motor in the elevator the elevator is a primary reason to has rephrase coming in however later on with us he's got updated the three-phase was put to better use.
Still remember having to reset Breakers all the time we did knockout one feeder was quite by accident during the Christmas present rehearsal one year we're only pulling a thousand extra Juan's took out the whole feeder everything was so overloaded as it was didn't even trip any other Breakers or the feeder itself.
News the electrical system that a church like the back of my hand good reason to!
Also one time me and my father were there we heard this something bumping a regular intervals the realize it was coming from the Bell Tower.
The chorus got the keys went up there what it was was the old exhaust blower or possibly Supply Air I can't remember it was just fun circulation all the time within the church to exchange air!
It turns out is the drive belts have been replaced this is no v-belt straight up leather belt thrive that thing had to be ancient.
Apparently at one time the Oregon bar may have been belt-driven or possibly had some auxiliary equipment someone had suggested possibly vitamin A small DC generator clearly there was somebody else Mountain years ago and have been well-used but that piece of equipment was long gone on the blower motor and also it seemed like the motor was rated much more than it needed for just the blower itself.
Originally I was thinking that possibly there's a different truck motor and the other motor was newer.
he motor in the Bell Tower.
Was probably 1 largest I've seen in a long time at least in an application like this ancient for sure!
About the next largest or thereabouts they have been bigger hard to say was the original blower in the commercial kitchen in church recently it was almost at ceiling hard this is for the exhaust system that was a real Beast.
Keep in mind they only had single phase at the time so you can imagine the size of these motors in the current draw I don't even know how many horsepower but they were ginormous.
Apparently somebody did save the motor from the exhaust system important years somewhere something special is what I said it turns out they were really into over a logical and reusing things to give something a bit of character and something that would keep on running then was in good shape.
Hard to believe with all the old equipment just ran so well almost like that was new even though it was..
well ancient!
It turns out that the reason why that something was going on against the belt had been replaced even the old felt had just been slipped off the pulleys just left you still in one piece probably didn't take the effort to remove it fully although I I did remove it for some leather to use for some things that was kind of useful not exactly something I'd be able to get a hold of otherwise!
Sensitive belts had be spliced until it wears in it's quite noisy you because everytime we would hit the bully you get that thump.
Remember my grandad show me how they would set up the leather belts on the tractor and getting everything to aligned properly it was kind of interesting.
Also I'd seen remnants of wine shops in places as well that I've been at.
Some people have literally called me a genius-level at repairing things over the years and getting things working in that weren't or even technicians and more of Sunday how could you figure it out how did you get working again.
Literally had some servisfirst no dumbfounded that I can even get it going.
They're fact I work in a few workshops and occasionally the people that were the main heads of getting things taken care of and so on would actually get me to take a look if there was problems and other people are scratching their heads got that gun again in record time.
And yeah I've been called the real life MacGyver more than enough times on top of this.
One incident which well probably shouldn't have happened because of the nature safety devices and so on but we had forklift have a mind of its own as they called it at that point.
Something happened cannot remember all the details actually is probably multiple things at the same time it would have to lead this situation.
Electric forklift.
Basically everything was essentially full bore on top speed and out of control they tried everything couldn't shut the same down just kept on very much like Energizer Bunny.
This was one time I literally crowbarred something happened to see a crowbar and I knew exactly where I can easily German crowbar in and sort out the power after the main fuse.
Nice big bang as well but you got to do what you got to do an emergency!
That cover on there was long gone so is easy enough to get to.
By the way the battery connector contacts at welded themselves together for some reason at that time as well so that didn't work either definitely many failures simultaneously to to cause all these various issues simultaneously and yes there was a lot of damaged wiring through and much more one thing probably very bad designs did not help much either.
And even if there was any type of bushings or otherwise they were no longer present.
I was asked to fix things up a bit and make it to this going to happen again at least to keep any repairs from being damaged again and potentially reoccurring also there was a disconnect switch installed accessible to driver just in case.
This was by my insistence I found out later few years later that the same thing it happened but different circumstances and they shut it off using that disconnect switch.
For the reasons that we definitely needed to shut the unit down the first time and somebody was hidden behind the loaded forks surprise Dave we're okay but things could have been a lot worse.
One time they had another runaway forklift and went off the end of the loading dock not good this was one of the LP gas operator forklift good thing he bailed out quite a bit of flames there at least had the sense to bailout!
Even going off the end of the dock could have been really bad news for him not to mention the vehicle.
Heard also wants someone wanted up going to the opposite end of a trailer as well.
Where the funniest thing is well at least when it was funny but we called cheese can or otherwise dip cans versus forklift surprisingly well depending on which way you looked at it the can one as in terms of as flattering everything everywhere and they get big mess.
This is more common than you think yep big-time cleanup!
By the way there were times that somebody got something there only and would have to use the eyewash station because the some of the stuff was quite spicy and would actually burn your eyes if this happened.
When we're doing labeling once we relabeled for institutional use.
We were not required to wear safety glasses when doing any of this work but probably would have been better to have this in the first place could avoid getting anything's wider than your eyes as well as this situation!
I had a tiny chip of the label glue come off when I was removing the original label the course right in the eye.
Needless to say after that and the time got that hot stuff in my face and all over me in my eyes you better bet I'd wear safety glasses.
I did did get to the eyewash station which was right next to that Beltline!
Also there's a circumstance that kind of got not everything but it was intentional and got a good laugh and got some eyebrows raised and yeah of course and no damage could have been done nor anyone free injured or otherwise of course but not something you should do even this Aurora said that he would have done this eventually anyways and had thought about it many a times here we go.
And if anyone knows about three phase power how about her can be easily reversed we were having a really down time that people become dumb. Just everyone's complaining and just kind of sick of things and we knew you would laugh to get people or at least a few eyebrows raised.
I got permission to do this I was doing some service work and would not affect safety in any way of course nothing shut down during lunch hour just before actually how to do a bit of work on one of the pieces of equipment yeah power cable had come loose and was in danger of causing some issues checklist causing a little bit of controlled Mayhem and just getting the eyebrows in a good laugh potentially and he said go for it
And he said that he'd even want to do this at least once if not more on one of those days where everybody was just had enough or just so bored whatever and 90 fun while.
Simple enough I was in there already just checking connections and also our to the same prison what is the cordless being redone.
At the plug for the border for the conveyor belt that is on the male end of the Claude just reverse two or three phases equals motor in Reverse!
So when I came back power on and everybody was staying there or bursting out laughing or like what the and everything coming back the spelled that really made the day for everyone and everyone walked out of there with smile that day!
They need everyone did of course don't attempt this this is not something that would cause any damage or any issues if this was done this is not something you'd know what to do but under the circumstances there would have been no damage or injury or anyting else but it was just some good healthy humor for a change and just even around the area people gawking and laughing yeah definitely was in need of a pickup around there.
Most of the people at least in personal line or just like a standing there couldn't even moved or just like so wide-eyed and your future is but then in the end just laughing out loud yeah pretty cool was a good gag.
Don't worry would not have done any damage to equipment either of course otherwise would not have been done besides that need to be taken out of service for few repairs anyways!
Of course I was standing by the disconnect so that could easily once the deed was done shut down right away it's kind of cool but my supervisor said I could do it and said yeah where everyone needs a bit of a laugh once in awhile and it's cool to get to do something like that you give her one of the nice surprise and I did laugh
I only ran into a high leg delta on an old factory 600 amp 3 phase MCC .We were lucky that the contractor had left the z bus in a plastic bag at bottom of MCC.Enough for 3 more spare breakers .Don't remember the voltages but one leg was taped orange
If in doubt over the main breaker capabilities? You could have the entire load dumped out at the pole. Whenever I work with electricians at an older service/main breaker. I offer to open the primary switches. As a lineman we have our switches 2 feet apart. We use arc suppressing tools to extinguish the flash. The most I get is a little spark.
I missed what voltage you were working with, but I'm sure 208,240,480 3phase, you need some arc flash gear on. Level 1 or 2, shorts and a tee shirt is not protecting you. Once you opened covers you should have maintained a safe working distance for non electrical personnel ie. Boss 1,2,3. If you going to teach the next generation teach the safety also please.
Awesome video. Wondered what happened to you. Glad you're back and with a little, medium, and tall helpers.
Great video. The only issue i have is lack of PPE . At least FR clothing and Gloves.
I think it 208
That's what I was thinking, too. And the gloves he's wearing are not appropriate PPE. (they'll protect from cuts, but not power and fire.) Do they know what the upstream protection is rated? 400A? 200A? That's potentially a mighty big flash.
Kids weren't even wearing safety glasses while he was cutting that flex.
Wow that was quite something I like how you got the kids involved but teach them safety
I have a feeling there's probably going to be a few more electricians in the future for sure in this family I'm assuming their family in this case myself I was rewiring lamps at 4 and 5 years old that's how early learn basic electrical.
Even before that understood most of the basics of electrical systems.
He might think I'm joking here but I'm serious in that respect and also my first word was my mommy or daddy or Dad or Mom but my first word was actually Outlet as in a receptacle.
People said I was literally born to be working on things and doing repairs.
I was actually doing electrical work even when I was quite Young of course falling all safety precautions but everything else.
Was a bit late on getting going on soldering when I was a kid for electronics because my dad had a bad experience with soldering iron once it was all scared because he really messed up his fingers with pretty bad burn.
Me and my father were repairing that you'll hairdryer had to put in a new diode it was just use to cut back power for either heating element ornamotor cannot remember which you know the old trick of half wave rectification to cut output power essentially like the old school high low off dimmer switches.
Actually have a little box it's essentially a nice big chunky diode to be a a way to cut back the output of linings for low-level Lights by just using standard incandescent bulbs of course fused and has a ground and even a thermal fuse this was Obama design there's a relay to bypass and a relay for off although this was never used what was in place possibly even for future automation and yeah there is a bypass switch as well just built into it small Project Box the original one I built basically just had one of those tags strips with a grounded female fog and the diode and a fuse in a female receptacle can't remember if I had a second quarter Accord as the outfit and just a female in there or single receptacle on the outfit had use that one never but it still around somewhere also good for taming down Christmas lights and other things as well I think I would have given it to someone that wanted to use some personal size for low-level lighting he just needed a bit of light at night in some rooms and they other rooms like this as well I basically built a bunch of these devices for this and also had a switch on a cord as well the thing is that dimming wasn't needed just either full-on or fall off or just a half wave rectification only made a lot less expensive than trying to use some sort of dimmer had all the parts anyways.
Something of Interest lawn friends came up with he was a guitar enthusiast and he had a gag cable that was 40 said was the only true electric guitar cable there was!
It looked what would have been a male grounded plug going to the other end and guitar cable recorder inch Jack of course however absolutely zero internal clock the connections in fully insulated does a gag of course but yet it got some people's attention when he pulled the thing out and yes it was a luminating plugged to get the point across that looks like there's actually power there he had me build this forum it was one of those things that if somebody just like their eyes pop out of their head if they even see it for an AC and plug it in before plugging in the guitar that is something that you do if you wanted to get attention or in the end get a good laugh yeah but yeah it really makes someone jump out of their skin is well it's one of the things that you know you got to have some sort of gag here in there or something to get someone's eyebrows raised.
And I also made him another one that was what he called the direct box Hannah powerful and cord coming out one end and quarter-inch Jack on the other same idea complete with a neon indicator to make it look like it's actually live.
And he also uses these for these so-called play something live is the great gag if you do it right and make sure there's no chance of anything actually being connected to 120
If anyone has ever seen the movie Young Einstein you get the idea what might happen it will sort of this was not the case!
Unseen 20-volt devices built from Surplus military components and all and him actually told components of what appears to be a telephone system or otherwise might not be that far off how someone might have come up with something years ago.
For example first flight simulator was actually offering from an organ console.
Also first power wheelchair was actually built from Surplus for spares from aircraft and other parts in the military!
Actually once built this power karke I don't know what good call it wasn't really a wheelbarrow but it could be used as such essentially you just charge the thing up had some pretty beachy motors for Drive don't remember what they were from possibly some sort of accessibility vehicle but don't know they're just something someone had lying around you go ahead with the welding in all but he had built this for his folks and himself to move stuff around I'm very big place and it was helpful since a lot of stuff was on a pretty steep hill that's all very long driveway.
Those run off a few deep cycle batteries plus it had the ability to provide Power for other things as well including a power inverter and the charger was on board write down to having a short cord reel for recharging and one for power out.
The steering and everything was pretty unique as well it sorta look like the cross between some gigantic Garden card and a power jack.
The dump bed was actually hydraulic!
Yankton hydraulic power pack out of something that was pretty much done for and no longer use still can't remember what it was
Just one of those little interesting things have someone come up with that was quite useful in the circumstances I do remember it had knobby tires on the thing as well which I think we're off something else as well if I remember correctly.
Also nothing even the same person can't remember we came up with what we called the Volkswagen as in voltage and wagon.
One of those adult Radio Flyer wagons you can get for my garden uses stuff loaded up batteries portable power in since they had an off-grid cabins as well.
So basically you'd have power you can bring with you when you're doing things then yes is burger and everything else as well as a small engine alternator and alternator and yes the frame and everything was beefed up to take all the weight and even a connection panel in the rear for everything pretty beefy connectors as well this could actually be connected to the electrical system of the cabin directly.
Including having onboard dc-to-dc converters various voltages output heck this could even be useful for those low voltage power input wire feed welders that's been for off-grid.
Used quite often for welding as far as the idea.
Of course everything probably built and overload protection and so on you wouldn't do it any other way because of that much power going that thing short circuit would be a really bad idea
You should have put in a circuit breaker. I can clearly see that there is space. You might have to get a after market but it's possible. Dont be cheep your in a school. Use copper next time. Also, I would like to see the study from a PE allowing you to make that tap.
Looks like a typical electrical contractor hack job. That panel had a place for several more breakers. Breaker stand offs are super easy to make. Just flat copper bar stock and a press brake. I would also disagree with the use of flex between two rigidly mounted panels. That all just spells lazy and unskilled craftsman that dosent want to take the time to install raceway or bend conduit. I belive most states require a engineering study for extended unprotected taps like that and usaly its required to be in ridgid conduit or raceway. I really don't like the way most modern electricians work. It's all about hacking it together to get done as fast as possible. I like to have pride in my work.
Exercising that main breaker is apart of routine maintenance. If it doesn’t reset it is bad, if it’s bad it’s time to replace. There are a few options to temporarily keep them running while the gear takes 28 years to come in
He got a todler at the jobsite and then says that taprule isn't for amateurs lol
That brush is designed for copper pipe. When turned in the Wrong Direction on pipe it actually damages the Brush.
I noticed the Glow from the 3 Green LEDS on the other Switch before You mentioned the Fan running.
Mike M.
Doing commercial work on that service main you should have been wearing arc flash PPE while opening and closing the circuit breakers and testing the mains for voltage. NFPA 70E requires a limited approach boundary for exposed energized conductors being worked live and during the LOTO and de-energizing process.
What is the brand of that switchgear? ITE or ITE-Imperial, maybe?
11:12 Double tapped breaker for surge protector on lower breaker.
Could you have milled new bars for that old panel?
First rule for being an electrician- NEVER TAKE ADVICE FROM A PLUMBER!!!
then there are the double certified..
So Joel, I see you always use Di-grease on new connections, will you be applying it to the existing connections while you are in there? If not then would you re-torque the other connections as a matter of course or leave well enough alone?
But were the supervisors wearing their fr rated arc flash grear?
as long as the conductor is shiny enough it doesn't matter however turning the brush in one direction only I assume lessens the amount of wear on the brush.
I think the only thing you guys need more than labeling the focus controls for your cameraman is some real PPE. Kids weren't even wearing safety glasses and it looks like a lot of those clothes are synthetics that will melt and stick like napalm even just from a flash. FR para-aramid is the best, but at minimum stick to natural fibers and stuff like merino wool. I'd also really recommend taking DeWalt off your list, just google "dewalt battery won't charge". They've got a massive widespread issue with defective batteries and there's people who've been chasing them on social media for months trying to get a warranty serviced.
Name of manufacturer of the old switch work?
I was on 465 and saw your solar billboard sign!!!
Good morning, what was that 3p surge protector you mentioned?
And those kids should not have been that close if that panel was live, especially not on the face side of the panel. One wrong move that caused an arc flash, and they'd all be blind and have massive burns in an instant.
An arc flash that big from a 220 panel? Come on dude... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So true. Only applies to a panel thats supplied with primary line voltage. Such a in primary metering. I worked in a hospital power room that was primary medium voltage. Had to wear special arc flash suits and gear. I hated wearing that heavy gear. Even when i had the power switchef off to the panel i was working in, there was still power in the panels next to one i was working in.
Please tell me, WHY use metal for cable insulation? In most of europe, its more durable PVC.
Im high at 10:28pm on a friday night, I know nothing about electrical work, idk why im watching this but it slaps
I’ll stay handy with my resi 120/240 single phase fun!😂
The direction of spinning those cleaners doesn’t really matter as far as how it cleans. The reason plumbers say one way is because they’re designed specifically for certain pipe sizes and the bristles are angled so going back and forth will wear them down sooner. On new brushes it’s next to impossible to even turn the wrong way. Though as they wear down, ll go backwards a few times and this pushes the bristles back so they’ll clean better
When drilling larger holes, let the drill bit and figure out which way it will snap. Then move both hands to the free (no crush) side of the drill so even if it slams, you can throw some touch up paint on everything except for your crushed fingers 👍
In the uk industrial and some commercial distribution cabinets on commercial or industrial premises where they are directly connected to the transformer we call them widow makers because attempting to work on them live one wrong move and bang your dead as most industrial in the uk are 400amp per phase at the supply and most commercials are 100amp but 230v per phase
Did you work out the incident energy on that panel? Just asking out of interest. One thing I would always do after proving no power is to go on with a thermal camera it can pick up any errant problems not easily visible…your youngest is a carbon copy of you….. Chag kasher v’sameach…
From new, if a tool does not have a arrow indicating which way to turn it, turn it evenly both ways forever. Bristles or blade, either way you want to wear them evenly.
At least as far as car battery terminals, lead not copper, true, the warning is that a steel brush leaves grooves in the metal, which allow air, moisture, and corrosion. I'd guess "only one way" damages the cable less, but would still think an anticorrosive paste should be used to seal those "brushed" cables from corrosion.
Thanks, @Lyfan Deth!
they use a copper grease to coat ends of wires and connectors in big motor control centers and high voltage wires for big 3 phase motors so they don't corrode over time and make connections get hot and such. but those are thousands of volts and hundreds of amps.
The back and forth causes the wire brush strands to break faster as well
As a plumber wants to minimize potential leaks, they only go in one (circular) direction. Sparkies don't have to worry about that, but as others point out, it can increase the surface for oxidation. (assuming it isn't dipped in no-ox.)
I hate concentrics so much lol. Good to see the boys out at work, great names!
Not a huge fan of just the wiring insulation separating the wires and the bars across all 3 phases. That just seems like a fire hazard in the future waiting to happen. I'd definitely double insulate where the wires were touching the bars. God knows if that insulation melts or fails in some way that crap is going to hit the fan quick.
3:15 this man had to kill 3 mini bosses to get those fuses. (Resident evil)
I was waiting for the saws all to jump and massacre his hand
Aluminum wire?
Really don't need to use the noalox there unless you are just used to it. Modern aluminum cable doesn't require it.
Doesn't the flex require a bonding bushing?
Ya. Try and remove and upgrade from the 1940s. And. Be careful. Without the power being on. Some of the buildings I’ve been in …. Have the builders panel still hot when entire building is off
Unbelievable what electrical regulations and standards there are in the USA... I am glad that I am an electrician in Germany... Please do not use uninsulated tools in open cabinets which are under voltage.
Hey! I was born in 1965 I'm not old as dirt from a human standpoint. Lol 😂😂😂
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Well pretty much all the cells in your body have been replaced after 10 years... So quit letting customers get away with the "I'm old and I still work excuse".
ppe for all
Blows my mind you just use a normal multimeter, so different in the UK.
Awww.... Malachi is shy.
how old is that apprentice of yours ? 10 ?
This man is not a professional he does not have a hard hat on no rubber mat on the floor working in electrical gear without another electrician on site
I'm finding it interesting how Americans install the breakers horizontally. Definitely a strange look for me. Here in Czechia we install them all vertically with "On" position up and "Off" position down.
Oo, thanks for sharing @Paegaskiller
You're welcome :) . There's plenty of interesting differences between our installations. One thing that fascinates me is the piping you people do. Seems like a lot of work. Haven't seen much of that around here basically through my whole 17 years career. We usually go for openable or permanently open sheet metal or wire box channels where we just slap the cable in there, tie it in and forget. Metal pipes are pretty rare and usually used only where extra heavy protection is needed. And even then it's usually not screwed right in to the breaker box.
They may be old, but they will outlast anything made and installed today.
Hey there if I'm correct. That's a pair of Irwin vise-grip slip joint pliers he has in his hand?
Got a pair of these quite a while back for my normal even household tool kit!
Seriously if anyone has even one pair of pliers this is probably the way they should go for adjustable!
Those are so much better easier to use never had any trouble with them.
To be honest they still look brand new at least my pair!
There's been so many times that I've struggled or would have and this really was best type to have in the toolkit.
Even the artery tightened up is a shower curtain rod we put in when I moved in.
I wish I could find a pair of magnetic soft Jaws to fit these pliers were possibly just soft Jaws I can easily slip on somehow or an equivalent that would just hold in place in some manner.
I was even thinking about using those what I call clamp pads essentially half rounded slide over protection for the jaws of C clamps.
And possibly other tools as well got those from Harbor Freight haven't tried them yet but I have a set but not where I'm at!
I was even thinking about possibly somehow having magnets on these two easily attached to my Irwin vise-grip slip joint pliers.
Plenty of times where soft y'all would have been much better but usually have to jerry-rig something!
That shower curtain rod wasn't too concerned about a few scratches.
However one of many crimes it would be better to have some way to cushion the drawers and still get a good grip.
Any suggestions for this of any type would be appreciated this is something I've been trying to figure out for a while so many times needing to tighten up something that would be good idea not to scratch up.
Such as nice shower head or other Plumbing installation.
Plenty of other things as well!
By the way I got those vise-grip pliers on Amazon unfortunately don't have a link.
I'd suggest anyone out there have a pair of these he won't go back I'd say when the best pair of pliers at least an adjustable variety I've used on my life.
Also don't skip on the size of your your pliers or you'll regret it in the end.
Also worth having a pair of water pump pliers available works great for all sorts of things even if sometimes trying to level up Appliance where you're having trouble getting ahold of the levellers works better sometimes for water pump pliers.
Reason we had a pair of these before is the residential irrigation system real pain in the neck to service the sprinkler head otherwise and yes recommended if you have an irrigation system installed and you do any work yourself there's Australis perfectly wrench for the sprinkler heads worth investing in it's sort of a weird-looking offset wrench you could say!
Also the water pump pliers are good for any type of connections that are just hard the work was otherwise even occasionally used it to get off a stuck hose clamp.
One nice thing about those vise-grip slip joint is there actually not as wide acrossed is some others are so things like leveling appliances it's much easier to get in the Gap easily where others were just too wide to get in there definitely a bonus to have a narrower jaw but yet plenty thick enough to get the job done but not 2 wide that you can't get in somewhere.
Had some more circumstances many times now so basically it was paid for itself.
Also the drawers do have a very good grip wish for others I cannot say are as good definitely worth the investment.
Even the handles feel really good in the hand and pretty much non-slip just a bit of cushioning sometimes all you need to do things comfortably as well.
And what they say with getting tools get the right one get a good one get it once or the equivalent definitely this counts as one of those
Why not use a hole punch rather than a hole saw? Its quicker, safer (less chance of kickback if you use an impact), and doesnt leave tons of conductive metal bits inside the enclosure
For the exclusive task of knockouts, we agree, they're better. The 2 advantages of hole saws in our opinion are cost and flexibility: They are cheaper to replace and can be used in other situations like cutting through framing. Not only is the startup cost of buying an electrical knockout tool expensive, but each size "bit" is pretty pricey too. If you're not buying an electrical knockout tool, then we'd argue it's probably not faster than the hole saw. Thoughts? If you've got a sweet knockout kit deal for us we're all ears!
Circuit solutions out of sacramento ca...those guys are wizards, yet to find bussing or a breaker they havent been able to obtain.
Ooo, I'll look into them. Thank you!
Buying breakers off Ebay is super sketchy
We often have no other choice.
Noalox?
so disappointed you didn't put on the fireproof giant insulated spacesuit like they do at powerplants opening the 11,000-volt breaker panels those poor guys wear that thing in 90-degree heat must be an inch of sweat in their boots LOL
Why don't they make them anymore? Are they illegal?
dude that kid said "i dont wanna be in the video" why dont you respect that thats a thumbs down from me
The only thing I seen that you could do is the lugs that you're tied into the main busbar busbar should have been already threatened or you use self tapping approve lexical bolts and the wire should have came in at the same angle on the top. Using washers and stuff is a bad ideal it looks very Mickey mouse.
The older kid appeared to not want to be in your video
5:40 😂😂😂😂😂
I didn’t see you tore even tighten lugs in disconnect what’s the haps man?
Do you never tire of me talking about terminating lugs? Everytime I say something about torque or otherwise I'm picturing all of you rolling your eyes....'not again'
So the adult doing work that clearly requires safety glasses and gloves, but you've got kids there right in the vicinity with neither on?
Don't know about your laws, but;
1. We would not be having anyone around the board when its open - there would be an exclusion zone that keeps them back at least 3 metres.
2. We would have condemned that old board - it's impossible to get parts for it, so it's a write-off. We wouldn't be allowed to bung or bodge stuff into this old thing. The board has broken parts!
3. If we tapped off - we'd be required to place double insulation on the crossing conductors.
Excellent video otherwise.
Great input! What jurisdiction are you in?
@@ElectricProAcademy Ozstralia.
Love hearing from our international viewers, thanks for the reference
Yeah but you guys in Australia aren’t allowed to do that much based on what I was told when I had my 3 phase installed in my house/garage here in New Zealand. I was allowed to dig my own trench, run my own cable, lots of stuff as a homeowner, I just couldn’t make connections within the panel.
As far as someone mentioning motor controls I remember seeing more than a few of these old-school guys really really old you know where most electricians say they don't make them like this anymore!
Or they say this thing was made in the Stone Age!
Also my father was having issues with one the church pipe organs at one of the churches.
Regarding the Oregon boat blower in the motor controller!
The blower motor was actually overheating not sure of of the issue I can't remember what was happening.
If they had not happened to feel the blower motor it would never realized that it was so hot obviously something had gone wrong.
The unit was resetting if I remember correctly however probably shouldn't but no one's for sure for sure what was going on.
We've had many times had trouble with the blower motors are various organs and have to ignore repair things as well as replacement parts and sometimes these are difficult to repair or replace Parts since some of this stuff has probably been in service for well over fifty years.
Some of it being original to the install.
There have been many of times not just one of these Morgan blower motor controllers.
When the electrician was basically scratching his head so they don't make them like this anymore as I've mentioned my father chimed in and said his son me could have fixed this in 20 minutes!
He wasn't kidding either.
I fix stuff that usually would be considered Beyond repair and got things going again that were well past probably at the point they need to be replaced.
Sometimes just with one tool bag and some spare parts here in there sometimes all you need is just a few pieces of wire few Terminals and sometimes that's all you need occasionally soldering iron!
Even do my dad's he organized and actually worked on pipe organs years ago Not only was an organist but had work at 1 the repair Oregon building shops years ago yeah the mechanical skills alright for this.
When it was something beyond the mechanical operation Russellville more complex that's when I got called in.
Occasionally get on call at home saying hey grab your tools everything you might need got a problem with the organ.
Keep in mind we did have one the old organs that was actually being replaced in the upcoming years!
The lot of the stuff didn't even work for example was the I believe was a small sheds or the others can't remember too long ago.
One of the cables or rope had given way and the weight set phone into the wall being unretrievable.
It was either modified or just left in default position ever since.
By the way I did one up salvaging a lot of stuff out the old Oregon even my mother had thought about having something built from some of the old wood and other materials from the organ that would mean something perhaps a blanket chest but it wasn't feasible to do this unfortunately it would have been a nice gift.
However I was able to salvage a lot of things actually went up having good usage!
Even some rather interesting metal brackets and much more they were great for hanging things up however I did get some wood from the Oregon to make a coat rack for my father I actually build this at church in the workshop in the Boiler Room so it he would know is being built besides it has of tools there if we didn't at home!
Darkroom when they've been up to the holes I needed!
Not to mention salvaging a lot of low voltage components not just solenoids and much more who played the original power supplies.
Lineup also getting some gifts from York & Company Sabrina icelab power supplies that were often used in the organ consoles.
Turns out in addition to the masking of stuff I could use you know they is straight up ask me since I knew I was in the electronics and all got some Surplus stuff and your stuff is hanging around for years does carbonation action relays we're pretty sweet basically to coil single pole double throw relay and the pain that stuck out that was also the contacts was an actuator.
Even run up using some of these on my Mall railroad for operating the points!
Plus having that relay to potentially operator their functions switches were thrown.
Just being troubles DC they broom quite strong.
Still remember having to troubleshoot the new organ had to dig into the solid state logic even.
Course we got all the specs including proper resistance of the solenoids for the slider chest.
Everything checked out last thing to do was swap out one of the cards with another identical car than the system turns out one of the cards had one blown output.
The part was overnighted installed that next day Good2Go.
Although that's something that you usually do not have to do in the Bible organ was never a grounded wrist strap on.
One thing I did for future is I had a little ground bar with banana jacks on there for future service since there was no ground readily available nearby.
And actually later on the organ company had thank me for doing this and said that was a great idea did they wish that was installed initially.
Just tied into the decent ground somewhere else!
I'm surprised it was not at least a receptacle for a trouble light or otherwise in the vicinity.
Had to run an extension cord to even ground my wrist strap!
Even my father was salvaging stuff from me when you're overworking came out was a bit surprised.
Also there was these neat little spindles.
Basically my father got hold of anything he thought I can use for anything at all!
I'm one of those people that if there was say a 25 pair or larger telephone cable leftover or had been pulled out or something of course that would get salvaged also that is right gauge for jumper wire and hook up wire for low-voltage projects in basically free.
Also known people that work for the phone company so often. Goodies you could say.
Hand-built mini intercom systems based on old phones as well.
One thing what they should do is when in the end when basically all landline phone services are done for good.
That is if someone's not using it for some sort of voice over IP or equivalent.
Have a system to use the existing wire for intercom or other uses be ashamed to have all that in the wall already and not use for everything.
Have done this many times where there's old phone lines are no longer in use or new Reliance with him for other means for doing this old networking lies just reusing wiring that's already in place.
Ivanov alarm system is in much more and stuff it's obsolete people asked if I could do something with that when they had an idea what they wanted to do if it was feasible of course sometimes it exchanged for salvaging anything useful the parts are otherwise even.
Many of times I've got it all the equipment out of places strictly for what's in it when it's obsolete or otherwise abandon
The first rule of tap club is you do not talk about tap club.
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You need to buy a slug buster
Ooo, sounds fun. Can you share a link?
70E anyone?
1:57 kinda a bad analogy to make in a church 😂
church, school, daycare, cdc 😂
Mate a 400 amp breaker can break a full 400 amp load, its not even close to a risk, hell we open main breakers and drop 5000 amps per phase in the datacenter with no drama, cos the kits designed to do it safely.
A breaker is only dangerous if you try and operate it out of specification, like breaking say 500 amps instead of its rated 400.
The arc will still extinguish in less than 30ms okay it might take upto 0.02 seconds on a 50hz system, but typically arcs are extinguised and load is shed without risk.
So why your saying a 400 amp breaker cant break 400 amps of current is beyond me, ITS RIGHT THERE IN THE FUCKING RAITING
There should be a fluxing inductor counter-current in the circuit to inhibit any current through the building while working. Let the electricity protect you instead!
How come you never use wiggies?
Is there an advantage to wiggies above multimeters?
@@ElectricProAcademy No, their just a little easier to carry and alot less expensive if you drop them.
Enjoy your vids but disagree with having youngsters (or any untrained/unqualified persons) on a job like this. Also, where is your arc flash gear/PPE, arc flash boundaries, etc.?
Nobody does B-roll intros anymore. Get longer retention if you remove it. 😊
So... where is your youtube channel with over 40k subscribers?
Why are you still using hole saws, Joel. Battery operated Knockout punches are quicker and do a better job and are usually safer. Great video. Russ from Oregon, 28 years in the Trade.