The King who STOLE Angkor Wat | King Rama IV 1860
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2024
- King Rama IV devised a plan to take apart Angkor Wat brick by brick and re assemble the temple in the Center of Bangkok ...Here's the story.
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This made me so happy. I’ve never had anything against the Thai people but every time Khmer post up anything, they would drop comments in mockery and treating Khmers like dirts. They used nice pictures of themselves and pictures of Khmers during the genocide as if Khmers are so proud when Khmers have lost so much . 2 million plus people were killed. These Khmer people that were killed were mostly educated ones, skillful ones and most of the countries treasures were stolen. They also helped those killers escaped and aided them to their benefit. It saddens me that they can’t just accept that they came after were influenced heavily by the Khmers. This is probably proof of why the name of their country got changed from Siam to Thailand. (Siem Reap/ Defeated Siam)
Therefore, Thais should take your comments and suggestions to account and stop with their hatred. Let Khmer live in peace and have some type of cultural recognition from the world.
Yeah I was in no way talking bad about the Thai people just telling a story but they showed their true colors in the Comment section. Coming out of the wood work like pest.
I certainly believe that their are ignorant people in every society .
Do apologize on the Thai behalf, and please understand that there are also a large amount of that type of comments from the Khmer side as well when Thai or foreigners promoted Thai arts and cultures….
And to be fair….this VDO itself which implying that Siamese Thai kings are thieves is base on half truth with bias false assumptions , although that doesn’t make those racist comment any rights , but to expect nice comments and positive retaliation is kind of unwise in my opinion.
BTW…
FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qhok now let’s assume that what you said about the king building a mini Angkor as a reminder to be true.. but why didn’t he do that to begin with? Why send Thai people to go and try and take Angkor? Not just once but twice. You can make excuses but it still doesn’t justify his actions now doesn’t it? Along with the Thai online warriors keyboarding hates onto Khmer people. I don’t blame you for standing for your people but don’t get mad at Khmers for standing up for what belongs to Khmers. Thank you and hope you sleep better at night.
@@KritSecret Again…
that’s why i said it’s half truth and bias assumptions…
You see… the FACT is Angkor Wat was rediscovered by the French since 1840s , while King Mongkut started his reign in 1851 …. How could he be hiding it from the western acknowledgement as suggested in this VDO???
Also Cambodian kings were raise , study and crown by Siamese Kings before they’re sent back to ruled Cambodian under Siam sovereignty… how could Siamese king considered himself as stealing the temple within his own sovereignty???
That’s why he didn’t command his army to sack Angkor rather he wanted to protect his belonging from the French and western colonialism.
And it’s more likely that he had his men went there to gather and record all the Angkor temple plans and took all those information for the reconstruction of the miniature, not to literally take actual temple back to Barngkok as interpreted
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qhyou are justifying his actions 😂 you cant just take a temple that were built in that particular location because at one point that country were a part of your colony. There are many ancient ruins all other the world but Only your king wanted to do something like that to Khmers.
Thais cravings for dominance over Khmer since ancient times until today still shows. Time to accept that without Khmer culture, there would be no Thai culture.
Nobody documented cambodia culture so vividly like you, if you want to see how cambodia is, anybody can watch your channel, and learn how the culture is, what is so crazy too is your a foreigner to the country witch makes it awsome that you took time to do all this, Thank you i watched almost all your vid, your awesome man i wish you success
The Khmer events have been documented enough, but due to the war that followed, the documentation was burned.
@@peaces.5524 pretext?
The facts are written in stone! Well said @cambovlogs Respect my brother!
i believe it would be best not to support this half truth and bias vdo….
FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
The stone walls are getting "renovations" now, so the khmer are free to do any history revision as they want. Thats why they banned photography in angkor wat.
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Lol the stones dont really tell anything its just us humans made assumptions from a stone wall anyone can say anything like i can even make up a story by just looking at it..
Hi man, I'm Cambodian from France. I just discover your video and I'm really happy that someone who's not Khmer talk about it. I just found out what's happen on TH-cam and Social media about the war (again...) between Thaï and Khmer. Usually I really don't care but it seems that Thaï are really present and agressive on the internet. The most thing that got me fed up is that there is a lot of TH-camr like you show at the beginnig wich doesn't know nothing about the SEA history that take agree with Thailand because I think the country is famous.
Unluckly for them and lucky for us, the Khmer History and science is the base of any source of knowledge. In the Western countries, everybody who knows a lil bit the history of SEA will tell about the Mon and Khmer Empire. The influence from the India to Cambodia, and that Thaï is a tribe which come from South China who integrated Mon and Khmer culture to form their own etc. But it's not because their form their culture that means there was nothing before like they like to argue. You can erase the story about Mon and Khmer which was there before. After the fall of Khmer Empire Thai and Khmer influence both each other.
But they can't denied that they have any roots from Khmer. You can see in the Thai population there is a lot "White" Thai and "Black Thai". Guess where come from the blood of the"Black Thai"? Khmer Surin, Buriram, Sisaket etc..
Thai people are divided in their country (Yellow and Red shirt : Rich and poor : Black and white skin) and I really think that not all the people are bad. I'm pretty sure you can see the clivage in Thailand through the Nationalist and the others.
I think the propagande about Khmer stole a lot of things from Thai and Thai denied some part of history is from Nationalist people who are brainwhasing by some authorities. Thai is developed and have 68 millions and Cambodia 16 millions population. It's pretty sure that they're more stupid people on the net to argue and spray propaganda. I Have a lot Thai friend in France and they know about the history.
To my Khmer people let these dumb bark. Don't respond by the hate. Don't waste your energy. The world will see by themself. Our history is already on the stone and studied, we should more focus and give power to Cambodia like we was before. Some people laugh at us because we poor but the world know our resilience. Thanky you man for the video. Much love from Cambodian refugee in France!!
Love your comments. I agreed move forward, being a good neighbor.
Thanks for ur video,, Thai is developed country, while Cambodia been tru wars again and again. For sure, we only wanna develop and live peacefully. It's better that both should accept, stop fighting and moving forward.
Having high rise hotels to house tourists and a skytrain that just been around for 15 years does not make you developed. Thailand is still poor. They just recently been taken out of the low income country list and are now just a middle income country. 700 years of economic freedom they did not evolve much.
I wish you well…since Thai people are related to all our neighbors.
It’s best for all of us to understand rach other
And here is the FACT of Thai arts and culture …
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
@@HH-cy7no sorry to disappoint you… And you are correct !
we didn’t do so well as other expected ,though we have sky train for 21 years now, but we’ve also been struggling with internal political conflicts since the past 2 decades.
Anyhow please learn some FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
And the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
@@HH-cy7noWell stated.
@@HH-cy7nobefore talking about thailand you should look at cambodia's infrastructute and compare it to thailand. You will realise that you shouldve kept ur mouth shut.
Tai/Siamese people be like: “KHOM is NOT KHMER. Our culture based from the KHOM empire people.”
Google: “What is KHOM in Thai?”
Answer: “ Khom is a Tai language term reffering to the people and civilization of the ancient Khmer empire.”
Google: “What is the meaning of Khom?”
Answer: “ The term Khom means Cambodia or Cambodian.”
Google: Is Khmer and Cambodian are the same?
Answer: “Khmer, also known as Cambodian, is the language of the Khmer people and the official language of the Kingdom of Cambodia.”
Them Siamese trying so hard to differentiate the Khmer people using Khom as a different ethnicity group as if KHOM, KHMER and CAMBODIAN are not the same people LOL. Thats like saying TAI, SIAMESE, and THAI, are 3 different ethnicity group but literally the same meaning just different word😂
They talking about how we got our culture from the Indians. When Indians literally our ancestors to begin with during Funan/Chenla period. All kings before Khmer empire period was Indians and married local Khmer princesses like SOMA for an example. Technically Indians and Khmers were our ancestors. All of us Khmers knew this. Eventually they going to claim KHMER afterward since there’s many intermarriages between the Indians and the Khmers. Yes, Indian culture influenced us indeed but we refined it and make it as our own version.
Where is Thailand from 1st to 12th century nowhere to be found lol. Even if they claimed Dvaravati kingdom that won’t make any sense either since we all know it’s a MON kingdom and those people are from lower Myanmar lol.
I don’t know where they get this DNA from talking about how modern Khmers are not related to ancient Khmer empire people. But I’m sure they probably learned through what their Siamese government taught them rather than do more researches online😂
I'm a Khmer Surin and am embarrassed also by these central Thai people comments 😂. It's like they have an identity crisis. Are you Tai? Are you Thai? Are you Siam? Are you Mon? What the hell are you? 😂
every argument i’ve had with Thai, you just summarized it into a whole paragraph. It’s so exhausting trying to explain and educate. 😂😂
@@peterouuuTheir tai tribe from southern China bloodline are just bunch of delusional. Don’t let them Tai’s trolls you bro. Their Tai government pay them to troll us hahaha.
Where did Tai people migrate? Here are living Thai people: "th-cam.com/video/sjHaPmSybnI/w-d-xo.html".
@@peterouuu
Understood they are invaders and didnt acknowledge it !
Siam took all valuable items and documents with them, which they have kept secret until this day. Similar to the 1979 invasion in Cambodia, they were busy day and night transporting trucks loaded with treasures, objects, and belongings from Cambodia to Vietnam.
Imagine how many Ancient Cambodian writings, documents, and other things were translated into their language, if it was possible, and their own history was adjusted or copy-plagiarized, so that nobody knows it today.
Cambodian valuables are being returned to the motherland 🙏❤️
Cambodia is stupid as a whole country.
Lol!!! Nothing's being kept secret. Thailand places all their proud treasures looted from cam from the feudal past in their museums like the french. By then when the vietnamese came, cambodia had no valuable treasures after getting looted by french and thai 😂😂😂
They supported Khmer rough because they started Khmer rough. It’s facts!
That’s Awesome! Cheers for more incredible and lovely globetrotting adventures!
The Khmer Empire was like the Rome of South East Asia
After 600 years was fallen.
@@peaces.5524 It was fallen because Trosak Paem current Cambodian snatch the throne from us Khmer-Thai people.
@@imperialkhmer6146
I didn't understand until now, why does the Cambodian government allow real Khmer history to be taught in school as it was before 1975? So that the younger generation can know more and think for themselves?
@@peaces.5524 Because Hun Sen and Pol Pot is control by Vietnam and China. They love it when they brainwash Cambodian people to fight Thai on social media. The truth is it was my ancestors from Northeast Thailand that built the empire of Angkor. The current Cambodian (Khmer Kandal) and their little brother the Khmer Krom (lower Vietnamese) want capitalize in the Khmer-Thai people success and history. We don't want nothing to do with those two. We built and they destroy.
I couldn't agree with you more. I lived in Japan for several years and every Japanese without hesitation always said to me that their culture, writing and a huge amount of civilization came from China. No one every denies that. Maybe Thailand and Cambodia can take this as an example of what 2 great nations can achieve, rather than arguing about who is better than who. Too much ego and not enough respect.
FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
just accept it. all tai are katoeys
Sorry we don’t wanna be friend with Cambo 😂 any countries wanna be friend with Cambo go ahead😂
Facts. I despise both Thai and Cambodian ultra nationalists, but I can never for the life of me fathom why Thailand is trying so hard to prove that Thai culture and language aren't influenced by Khmer. English has many words in their vocabulary that are borrowed from France because of the Norman conquest and no English person has ever denied that. Japanese culture and writing came from China like you said there's no denying that either. So I don't see why Thailand is trying so hard to deny that. Some Thai scholars and netizens who can't disprove the Khmer influence theory even went out of their way and conspire that Thai culture is actually influenced by a different and seperate civilization called "Khom" not Khmer. Like who the hell are these "Khoms"? Where did they go? Did they just magically disappeared off the face of the planet one day?
@@yutagami1082 the same question could’ve been asked the Cambodian as well…Why are they’re trying so hard to erase Siamese Thai influences out of their pictures.
Here is The Fact of Thai arts and architectures…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “VIA” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“CREDIT” should be given to “ALL” of the ancient kingdoms… for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Sri Lanka, Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
I really appreciate that you explain all these true facts about history of Kampuchea..
Thank you
Thai Recognition of Khmer is a national security issue. If they recognize Khmer, then they must also recognize the other proto-minorites. Doing so will make them question what is Thai? This can be dangerous.
FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qhVery logical. So this whole thing about Siam trying to move Angkor to Bangkok is "Via"?
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh Very logical. Look at the current Tai people of Yunan China. That is what Thailand would look like with zero Khmer Influence.
@@siamean1 Do you even understand what is “acculturation “ mean?
Meaning that it doesn’t come from one particular source nor preserving its original form.
Let me share the statement from Professor David K. Wyatt on the art of Sukhothai… so you might have a better idea of out SiameseThai arts and cultures.
“Their art was strongly influenced by that of Ceylon and Nakhon.
Si Thammarat, and they are supposed to have imported potters from
China who created brilliant works in celadon and the famous Sankha-
lok ceramics. Whatever its origins and influences, however, Sukhothai art,
like Sukhothai life, was a thing of its own, more than eclectic and distinctively Siamese”
These Siamese art and cultures were eventually passed on to the vassal states.
@@siamean1 The fact is ….
King Rama IV had that Angkorvreplica made as a reminder that it was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to the French.
While he had his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that miniature …
And that solid evidences are showing inside Thailand grand royal palace. for everyone to witness.
So please learn to differentiate ancient Khmer arts before the ruled of Siam Ayuttaya and the SiameseThai designs . They are two uniquely different designs from one another.
Fact with solid evidences, not opinion .
So please stop spreading false information.
Good video brother. Your speaking facts 💯💯💯
I think if Cambodia and Thai are about the same economically, Thai people wouldn't care so much and would even respect them too but since Thailand is more prosperous, they don't want anything to do with Cambodian or acknowledge that they came after Cambodian.
I read the western history book, I learn alot about Cambodian history. Never unestimated the POWER of THE KHMER EMPIRES. I don't read thai history book, Because to many thing thai claim they're owned, Include Cultures, I don't like the FAKE story thai make up in their book, I like the true history, I think Cambodia is may be a little poor rightnow but they have a long history than thailand, I trust western history book but not thai history. Thanks for your VD
The Khmer Empire was established way before Thailand existed. The Khmer culture was influenced by Indian culture which in turn influenced the Thai culture. Even the Thai script is taken from the Khmer script.
ทุกอย่างมาจากอินเดีย ภาษา ศาสนา ดนตรี การปกครอง การช่าง😅 ในเเผ่นดินไทย มีศรีเทพ1800ปี ดีเอ็นเอ ไม่ตรงเขมร😅ไทยกำลังขอขึ้นอีก เก่า3000ปี เขมรยังอยู่ชวา😅ย้ายมาไล่จาม😅ทราวดี จะขึ้นมรดกโลก
@greenandshadow อาณาจักรทวารวดี ไทยอบมา3000ปี กระดูก ไม่มีคนเขมร ไทยดำ ไม่ใช้คนจีน เเบบลาวเวียดนาม จะขาวนะ ทีย้ายลงมาทางใต้
There were no Khmer Empire get educated only Korm Empire which were Siamese ancestor's no need to look far just look who speaks Thai over 100 million while only Claimbodia speak Khmer
@greenandshadow Get educated I'm very well educated better worry about Claimbodia education because according the Japanese HR consultancy Claimbodians are very poorly educated with majority only grade 5 education
@yuv06 When I went to Thailand and visited all the temples dated back to the Khmer Empire, I was surprised to be able to read all the scripts carved in the stone at those temples as a Khmer person. Present-day Thai script is completely different, probably created much later.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you for sharing 😊
Thanks for making this video ❤
Thank you for this. Agree with your assessment and logic. Great work. 💪😎
Well stated Patrick. 🙏
This is a half truth and bias vdo…
While….
the FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
Thank you so much brother for making this video about the fact of the history
คุณเรียนรู้ประวัติศาติมาจากไหน?..ปันยาออ่น.555555😂
Please stop spreading your half truth and bias story , it can cause more unnecessary coflict between the two nations. BTW….” Mongkut” meaning “crown”…
FACT is….the reason king Rama IV had his men built that replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
You dream too long little brother! Why I don’t see any evidence that Angkor Wat has Thai scripts or Thai people live near the temple in contrast I see only the Khmer scripts still exist on the Angkor Wall
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qhstop spreading fake information boy!
@@sarada2602 Siam Ayuttaya occupied and ruled over Angkor since 15th century… Khmer king Ponhea Yat (1390-1463) got his title “Borom Reachea II from the Ayuttaya royal court. That’s how Khmer arts and culture shifted and transformed drastically from Angkor Bayoun into Sismese design… Especially in early Rattanakosin when many Khmer were raise, studied and crown by Siam royal court. As stated clearly in Kyoto University ‘s academic paper that Cambodian Khmer royal court was under Siamese culture.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion
Just ask, who can read the walls of Angkor Wat! Period! "Siem Reap" literally means Siam defeated!
You may be surprised how many Thai and Khmer people don't know, that Siam was the previous name of Thailand.
You could be a bit more educated and don't have to simply mention "the wall of angkor wat". You could rely on other historical facts and events that took place which were clearly documented as sources of reliable information.
siem reap means "katoey defeated"
@@cambodianpleasuresquad1753 In Thailand, people don't care what gender they are. We are interested in his abilities. and people can live together happily Have a good, stable education and have freedom in living life.
Racha mean kingdom, Khamer tongue can't spelling the Siam language and Khom language accent, Siam was the old Thailand name. western era colony get Siam land and did not give back to Siam, check from England and France history, England get some part of Mynma from Siam such Chang, 12 Panna etc and from east of Siam by Frence by Laos(Lan Chang) and Khom(old Siam land)
The Cambodians must know the fact that Ksattey Pen(King Norodom 's mother), she is thai woman.She has two brothers, Aek and Hem.Hem is thai word that means "gold". If thai peoples want to name their sons for the meaning of gold they always use the name such as "Thong or Hem" (while the Cambodians use the name as"Meas"). Because of she is thai woman so her son King Norodom always speaks thai and he has the attendants(the Cambodians call Pi Lieng:พี่เลี้ยง) for translating into Khmer.Ksatrey Pen takes the Thai Cultures to the Cambodian palace such as the royal classical dance(include Lkhon khol), pin peat music are taught by Thai teachers.In the book"Saramany" it said that the royal classical Dance and pin peat Music were taught by Thai teachers.In the Henri Mouhot travel recorded it said that the Porcelain that used in Ksatrey Pen palace was Siam Porcelain and the prince and Princess have their hair-cut in Siam Style.
It is a shame that Thais learn to write their own history and think it is true. He also accused the Cambodians of stealing everything from them. Although Cambodia has evidence engraved on the temple walls, French and Chinese documents indicate that Cambodia and China had a long-standing trade relationship, even though Siam was only a minority fleeing China.
Thank you !! I was taught in Asian studies class that Cambodian created the dance before Thailand !
Thanks for supporting Cambodia
International historians and intellectuals know the history of Khmer empire very well. The problem is Thai and Vietnam try to change it by twisting the facts hard so far. They think the strong will succeed and take over the land from the weaker neighbor.
Wrong. = UNESCO as well as National geography said Cambodia is faking history. No such thing as Cambodia empire. The French who took over you, and turning Cambodia into indochina slave. The information admitted is now proven fact of records. At the time for the purpose of fighting against the British power, French made their own empire in Southeast Asia indoctrinated as Indochina. Cambodia were a mere nearly extinct small kingdom that was given to France by the Thai to save themselves from being colonized. Lao and Vietnam were unable to avoid the French invasion while Thailand or Siam did everything possible to save their being. How you think Thailand is still a free country today.
It is a good job that Vietnam leave this part history as historic and progress on in this era. Otherwise, they will probably be in the same situation as Cambodia = a lost of culture, a lost of civilization and power and a lost of hope as a country.
@@beelouwill303 provide your sources!
Cambodian in the present can't maintain Angkor wat by themselves just ask for helping from India and Thai. They know nothing about those architectures until the coming of France who created the history for them. 😅
@@nukenum3351Tai aka Siamese know nothing about colonizing and a wars. Claimed that their culture coming from the Khom people. When KHOM and KHMER literally the same people. Tai aka modern Thai tried so hard to differentiate our people it’s like saying Tai, Siamese, and Thai are different ethnicity. Afraid the world will find out. And now Tai people claimed that Ancient Khmer and modern day Khmer are not the same people. So I guess ancient Tai from Sokhothai and Ayuthaya are not the same people as modern Tai. DONT be hypocrites now Tai. What you learned is based from your Tai government that taught you. World historians all across the globe already know about the Khmer empire except Tai/Siamese/Thai people.
@@nukenum3351Until these days, the Tai tribe aka modern day Thai still worship their KHMER aka Khom/Cambodian master spirits in all hundreds of proudly erected temples in their country.
I agree brother I see a lots of post from that side say Cambodia this and that they look down Khmer people
they are racist and only tough against poor countries. you should see how they behave in america. they would never dare to act the same way here. they are cowards
@@cambodianpleasuresquad1753the Thai’s in America are either illegal waitress and cooks or poor Thai’s that sold their soul to white men. I have never met an educated thai before.
We all are related somehow…
And here is …FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh trying to distort history again. you migrated from china and assimilated the culture of the indianised mon and khmers
Because cam is one of the most toxic internet posters in the world and you keep on making trouble with thai laos and viet. Thai laos and viet usually dont have any strong arguments with each other but to cam there's always a problem.
Thanks Patrick 😊
Big respect bro.
Nice history lesson, very good. And sporty jacket too.
Thailand used to control some parts of Cambodia a while less then 100 years but not 400 years like someone from Thailand say.
ในสมัยอยุธยา ไทยให้เขมรไปรบไล่พม่าทางล้านนา เขมรส่งส่วยให้ไทย มาตลอดนะ จนถึงร.5 ฝรั่งเศษมาเอาเขมรไป555
During the Ayutthaya period, people were not sent to rule. There is only the transfer of arts and culture and the offering of tribute. Or send your daughter off to get married. It's called cultural influence. Later until the Thonburi and Rattanakosin eras. So he sent people to rule. Yes, it may not be 400 years old, but it is definitely more than 100 years old. The Khmer king spoke Thai and studied in Bangkok. It's what happened.
100yrs for direct colony under Khom(slave Khmer/Khmee) and before control by Khom and Siam(other name Lawo), write on the wall, then Lucking Claimbodia delete the name of "Nae Siam Goog" from the wall.
and the scaling of Nakorn wat show on the plate in Frence musium "Siam" Nakorn Wat and Wat is Thai language and the meaning is temple
@@kobaltg.3408 I think you should go get more educated from the outside worldly not only in Thailand/ The indigenous people in Thailand are Khmer who still speak Khmer such as in Buriram, Surin, Sisaket, Srakeo… the people who brought the Thai language nowadays is just more than 200 years ago from southern of China I have many origins Thai friends in Northern of Vietnam speak the same language as Thai nowadays and they are from southern china as well.
And in the Angkor wall we never found Thai script there exists but we have ancient Khmer scripts till now
@@chandaracookingtv9106ผลDNAออกมาแล้ว พวกคุณนั่นแหละควรเชื่อหลักฐานทางวิทยาศาสตร์ ไม่ใช้มะโน ไม่จำเป็นต้องดูตำราไทยหรือเขมรทั้ง2ประเทศนั้่นก็เข้าข้างตัวเองทั้งนั้น แต่DNAที่ตรวจเขมรไม่ใช้คนพื้นที ่อะษรเขมรโบราณ ไปเลิกใช้ภาษาสันสกฤตให้ได้ก่อน อักษรขอมมาจากทมิฬ ยุคเขมรก็เริ่มแค่ ทาสที่ไปปล้นนครวัดมา ผ่านมาเป็น1000พันปี พวกคุณยังซ่อมโบราณสถานเองยังไม่ได้เลย
Great video . 😊
I’m curious what is your date of when you consider the founding of Thailand? It’s a very complicated debate. Sukhothai? Ayutthaya? Bangkok eras?
Big backyard u got brother friend! Do u do gardening during summertime or not?? 😅
I was born in a refugee camp in Thailand. My parents and older siblings who fled Cambodia had to live through living in this refugee camp for many years before we immigrated to Australia, have gone through and witnessed things between Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam.
Ive been to Bangkok and love the place would go back over and over but not happy with all these TH-cam videos about Cambodia versus Thailand we are similar countries.
คนกัมพูชา ที่ได้รับการช่วยเหลือจากไทย มักจะ เนรคุณประเทศไทย
ผมไม่รู้คุณได้รับการปลูกฝังมาอย่างไร ผมหวังว่าชาวกัมพูชา จะรู้ความจริง
*ประเทศกัมพูชาสอนประวัติศาสตร์ผิดๆ
ผมเป็นคนไทย
Thank you for your love….i know we all are related somehow… here is the
FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
I live in Australia as well and some of my friends are Thai but doesn’t mean I can’t talk the true. As Cambodian I really disappointed in you . Look how Thai people talk shit about our country in Facebook.
@@suncarnegie4747LieLand!!!!!
@@dennisvin648 คุณถูกเวียดนามรุกราน พวกคุณก็หนีมาพึ่งไทย ถูกเขมรแดง ฆ่าล้าง พวกคุณก็หนีมาไทย พรรคการเมืองตรงข้ามกับฮุนเซน ก็หนีมาไทย ครอบครัวอดอยาก ก็หนีมาทำงานหาเงินในไทย พอกลับไปประเทศของตัวเอง ก็มาด่าประเทศไทย แถมมาทวงบุญคุณ คนไทย อ้างว่า ตึก บ้าน ถนน คนเขมรเป็นคนสร้างให้ประเทศไทย มันเป็นเรื่องที่ตลกมากมาย แรงงานกัมพูชาและคนกัมพูชา ไม่รู้ว่ารัฐบาลไทย ให้โอกาสเฉพาะ คนกัมพูชา คนลาว คนพม่า ให้ได้มีโอกาสหางานหาเงินเพื่อเลี้ยงครอบครัวที่บ้านเกิด มีหลายประเทศมาขอรัฐบาลไทยให้ช่วยรับแรงงาน เช่น บังคลาเทศ ศรีลังกา และแถบแอฟฟริกาหลายประเทศ แต่รัฐบาลไทยไม่อนุญาต เพราะ ปกป้องให้ชาวกัมพูชา ลาว และเมียนมาเท่านั้น แต่คนพวกนี้เนรคุณ อกตัญญู ประเทศไทยและคนไทยให้โอกาสดีๆ ช่วยเหลือตลอด Cambodia is ungreatful country
In ancient time there was no word for Tai in the Khmer language it was Siem, Leuw, Mon, Cham, Chvea, Chin, Pumear, and Youn. After the Khmer moved the capital from Yasodharapura or Angkor to the next they did not surrender to the Siem or Thai, however to avoid war they paid tributes. They were paying tribute to Siem but Khmer was independent. They were more like a vassal state and not a colony as what the Thai like to say. A colony means you are fully occupied and controlled by the occupiers, whereas a vassal state means that one state pays tribute. Cambodia was not a colony of China either but the Khmer empire paid tribute to China as well for centuries. But so did Korea and Champa they paid tribute to China but they were independent states. The King of Siam also asked the Khmers of Longvek for help against the Burmese and then got pissed at Cambodia for trying to free the former Khmer territories fr Siam so they King Naresuan attack Longvek with a full siege of the city. The coin legend isn’t true as coins weren’t even made at that time in Longvek lol per some historians. The Khmers suffered a huge blow as the city was burned to the ground I believe as it doesn’t exist anymore. Also every time there was a war Siam would take back Khmer intellectuals back to their capital since the time of Angkor. They took Apsara dancers too and Brahmins and generals etc. Lopburi period is the Khmer period in Siam meaning they were heavily under the Khmer empire and Ayuthaya is most likely a city that spoke both Khmer and Tai, independent of Khmer but has people from the main kingdom Angkor. If you go to esan or the area of Surin, Buriram etc the people there speak like 3-4 languages and some of them aren’t even of that ethnicity but they can speak it. Like for example there are Laotian ethnic in Esan Thailand who can speak Khmer, which proves the theory to be somewhat true that the old Siam during the period of Angkor spoke multiple languages as the people were a mix of different ethnicity. Ayuthaya absorbed Sukothai and Lopburi kingdom before they tried to take Angkor the center of the entire empire. The goal was to make Ayuthaya the new center and not Angkor sooo the people of Khmers and Thai have a lot of history together as they were all at one time under one empire, khmer empire. Khmers lost and gain lots of provinces in history to Thai by they were not fully absorbed and remained independent until the French showed ups. They were closed to being fully absorbed by their two neighbors Siam and Vietnam.
Perfectly summarized. I want to add once the Thais early administrative language and documents were in Khmer. Thank you.
Fact is…
Ayuttaya happened through the merged of two former Dvaravati kingdoms,
Suphannabhumi(Suphanburi,“X’ian” kingdom(暹國) ) and Lavo( Loburi, “Lorhu”kingdom(羅斛國) as stated clearly in the Chinese record.
These Dvaravati kingdoms were invaded and ruled by the Jenla(Chenla) in 11th century….
After reinforcements by the Tai from the North… they “assimilated” into a hybrid “AustroTai” Siamese…
Eventually with their hybrid combat arts, they fought back their territories and established “Krungthep Dvaravati Sri Ayuttaya”
Please be reminded that …since the rise of Ayuttaya , Siam has never been under the Post Angkorean rule!
And the FACT on SiameseThai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh the term Siamese is not what you call yourself, it’s Thai or Tai, the term Siam is instilled by foreigners and the term Siem is used by Khmers, Cham, and Mon people. Daravarti is not a Tai kingdom it was Mon just because you absorb their land and took their culture it doesn’t eliminate the root of the people. The oldest group in the area are Mons, Khmers and Chams and there has been plenty of historians noting this, facts not a matter of opinions. Tai people are not Mon and they are not Khmers, however the current people living in Thailand may have mixed dna through centuries of interbreeding, assimilation and warefare.
Anyhow I’m not trying to go on and on with this topic but facts are facts, there are no world famous or known historians that have come out to state that Tais originated in what is now Cambodia, Thailand etc. none whatsoever.
@@nataliev.149 well….the pure blood mentality mindset might deluded you to believe that only the lands were absorbed into the kingdom of Siam….while the earlier people all vanished into thin air….
Let’s not hear any further from me, since I am Thai, but better from
Prof. David K. Wyatt,
the John Stambaugh Professor of History at Cornell University:
“Intermarriage with the indigenous ruling elite must have been a particularly important mean by which such Tai prince rose gradually to power.”
“….The most important of this dynastic connection were form between the indigenous rulers of the town of the western fringe of the Chaopraya valley and the house founded by prince Phrom. Out of that web of political and kinship relocation, center on the old town of SUPHANBURI…”
“Lopburi’s repeated attempts at independence
Reflect more than political factionalism or regionalism within the Angkorean Empire.
Lopburi,after all, maintained a cultural and religious tradition as heir to Dvaravati and seem also to have expressed a non-Khmer ethnic identity based on an earlier Mon-consciousness now tempered by an increasingly self conscious Theravada Buddhist and (hybrid Austro)Tai pupulation.
As far as Angkor was concerned, Lopburi seem to have represented Siam whether as the center of, or more likely as the administration responsible for, that population.”
Hope you got it now…
for who were the “Siamese” of “ Dvaravati Sri Ayuttaya”
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh umm the earlier people in the area were not Tai and never was and that is a fact, Tai people were never indigenous to that area ever, no historians have spoken of such either. We are talking about Tai people as the root of the people who identify themselves as Tai, your true original ancestors. Lopburi was a mix of various ethnic groups but definitely not Tai in origin. I understand Thai people get angry and upset about this and do not like to say that they came later but rather want to believe that they always existed there, however that is not true. We must understand and accept this and not try to distort history. All humans migrated from Africa as per the theory of human revolution but who came and settled in a particular area first lays claim to that land.
You have your opinions and that’s fine but if you want to convince anyone you need to address it to the historian who have studied the area and prove them wrong, with your proof and not go into TH-cam and post comments. However, that will be tough as these historians have already stated the facts, which at this point I have not seen anyone stating otherwise.
Crazy alright,thanks
🤔 Hummmm...I wonder who put the sword there!! 😄😂🤣
Khmer ancestors, protectors of Angkor 😆
Both Cambodian and Thai community need to learn more about their history and understand how complex and connected our countries and cultures used to be. Khmer and Thai influenced each other a lot. The Thai learned alot from the Khmer during the Khmer empire. Then after the hall of it, the opposite happened. The Khmer learned from the Thai. It’s HISTORY guys we have to accept it. 🇰🇭🇹🇭
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I agree as Thai my countrymen are delusional and stubborn
Facts: Ram Khamhaeng Inscription is still not settle. Mongkut and his minions modified documents and records, changed the logs and original perspective of the records. Do you see a pattern here?
FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh Troll, no one here is dismissing the earlier cultural influences India, Sti Lanka, Mon. Thx for wasting my time.
@@NS-ve4msthen it would be best not to support this half truth and bias vdo….
FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he loose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh Bugger off. I admire your imagination and your convoluted interpretations of historical facts. I don’t have time for you - seriously.
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh thai culture originated in the redlight district
Thanks brother you are the best. Thank
MORAL OF THE STORY: Power is maintained by altering history. This is how Siam subjugated the Khmer populace during its Nationalist transition from Siam to Thailand, ...by erasing the twisting the history. They still teach their students, that Thai came from Khom, and that Khom is not Khmer. Khom were the Varman caste, and that the Khmers were the simple village and jungle folk under the Varman rule. 2 different peoples.
The vultures to the east are very cunning, and wouldn't hesitate to resort to all and every means to achieved their evil agenda. This is nothing new under the sun. It has been going on for centuries.
look up the tai kradai languages. the thai originated in south east china. they were expelled from their homeland in china by the han people which resulted in their migration into south east asia. in south east asia they came across the mon and khmer and adopted their culture and civilisation. the thai migration into south east asia was documented by multiple vietnamese and burmese annals. the thai were know as the shan/sien by the burmese. they tried to invade both burma and vietnam before migrating into the khmer empire. the thai even migrated as far as india where they are known as the tai ahom. wherever they go they adopt the local culture
นั้นเป็นคนไทยเช่นกัน แต่เป็นคนไทยรุ่นหลัง (และคนไทยขอมได้อยู่ที่นี้มานานมากแล้ว ทำไมเขมรถึงไม่มีDNAของขอมโบราณ แต่คนไทยมี????) หยุดอ้างว่าตนเองเป็นขอมเสียทีเถอะ
@@nuits.8815 huckysucky luv u long time
ไทยมาจากจีน และเขมรก็มาจากชวาเป็นทาสที่ถูกต้อนขึ้นมา และไทยก็มาก้อนแน่นอน หลักฐานวิทยาศาสตร์กระเ
ดูกมากมายอายุ 13000ปี และDNAตรงกับคนไทยในยุค ปัจจุบัน ฉันไม่เชื่อตำราของไทยและเขมรแต่เชื่อในหลักฐานทางวิทยาศาสตร์ หยุดเรียนจากกำแพงวัด
ประวัติศาสตร์จอมปลอมที่แต่งขึ้นเพื่อไปล้างสมองชาวกัมพูชาให้เชื่อแบบนั้นDNA
ของชาวกัมพูชาไม่ตรงกับคนแถบนี้นู้นไปตรงกับคนป่าชาวอินโดนีเซีย
@@nuits.8815Look at you so desperate and wanted to be KHMER so bad but can’t admit the truth about REAL roots from southern China and had to made up this DNA bs from your country educational system from what your Tai government taught yall. Making up lies then tried to differentiate the KHMER and KHOM to make it seems like if these 2 are different ethnicity when both literally the same. Wanna be KHOM so bad and used our KHMER nickname to make it as the KHOM are your kind. Trying to get rid of the rightful owner😂 What a disgraceful of your kind and your country. For you to manipulate and created false information. It’s not hard to type, “What is KHOM, in Thai?” Or “Is KHOM and KHMER are the same people?” On google. You’ll get the answer.
Thank you for your service for telling the world!
Please stop spreading your half truth and bias story , it can cause more unnecessary coflict between the two nations. BTW….” Mongkut” meaning “crown”…
FACT is….the reason king Rama IV had his men built that replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
Thai had written fake history about Thai-Cambodia culture and how the had controlled Cambodia for 400 hundred years. The king of Cambodia allowed Thailand to control Battambang for one full reign of its king, but not the whole country. But Cambodia and Thailand had many wars back and forth. But during the Vongvech era that King Noreaso of Thailand did came in to Cambodia after the Cambodian helped Thailand fought of the Burmese from Ayuthaya and was out of resources and energy by then. Thailand had hired the arm force from Portugal and even the Japanese to help them fight. Noreaso himself was not even Thai, he was Chinese. Basically, Thailand had betrayed the friendship agreement that they had mad with Cambodia, and attacked Cambodia instead of saying thank you to Cambodia after the Cambodian had helped them defeated the Burmese. Cambodia had ran out of resources and their army was exhausted, and the could not rebuild the army on time to fight the Thai. Cambodian people had been honest and that was how they have been taking advantage of by the surrounding nations. Cambodian people had been the builder of temples in Southeast Asia, and their empire was the longest standing in Southeast Asia, and now you can still find them in Thailand, Laos, and southern Vietnam. Thai and Vietnamese people were the criminals of China, and they had to flee China to save their life. The Thai had sought refuge in the land of the Khmer Empire around the Chao Praya river. Eventually their numbers grow bigger and bigger as they continued to live under the Khmer empire, then they formed they own ethnic group, and then and a nation but adapted everything from the Khmer culture as their identity.
ถ้าเขมรเจริญต่อเนื่อง จะต้องมีสิ่งก่อสร้างตามยุคสมัย ต่อเนื่องให้ชม ใหม่สุด อังกอร์วัด1000ปี😅 9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-100ปี หายไปไหนครับ😅กษัตริย์เขมร ต่อๆมา😊ถ้าเขมรเป็นอิสระจริงๆ😅ไม่มีใครมาคุม
กัมพูชาหรือเขมรเป็นได้ก็แค่ทาส
Literally written in stones. The continuity of the language from Funan, Chenla to Angkor to now says it all. The latter writing of other languages on Angkor Wat columns were made by pilgrims from other parts of Asia.
Hi brother,
Great video, I love it. A very mature perspective and a peaceful one Totaly agree with you......
This is a half truth and bias vdo…
While….
the FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh
I am sure you got the facts right brother... moving forward..life is so short to debate about history.
គាត់បកស្រាយបាន ត្រឹមត្រូវ មិនលំអៀង
ឈរលើភាពសុក្រិតយុត្តិធម៌ មិនបង្កើត អោយមានជម្លោះ That Amazing
When are you coming back here Cambodia?
Thank you, this is a well needed video
the FACT is Angkor Wat was rediscovered by the French since 1840s , while King Mongkut started his reign in 1851 …. How could he be hiding it from the western acknowledgement as suggested in this VDO???
Also Cambodian kings were raise , study and crown by Siamese Kings before they’re sent back to ruled Cambodian under Siam sovereignty… how could Siamese king considered himself as stealing the temple within his own sovereignty???
That’s why he didn’t command his army to sack Angkor rather he wanted to protect his belonging from the French and western colonialism.
And it’s more likely that he had his men went there to gather and record all the Angkor temple plans and took all those information for the reconstruction of the miniature, not to literally take actual temple back to Barngkok as interpreted
Thank you for this 🇰🇭💙❤️🤍
Well said written stone. Through out humanity history great kingdom do rise and fall, even in modern societies. But Cambodia will forever standstill where GOD placed it.
Great job 👏… very brave of you… there are lots of Thailies trolls…
Good topic. That is strange that you have a sword up in the gutter. Are you heading back to Cambodia soon?
Angkor Wat is a treasure. It is one of the most important archaeological sites in South-East Asia. It has been recognized a World Heritage by the UNESCO.
I find the surprising sword that you found is premonitory to your subject.
There been always and still have people that want power and when they have money it facilitates their goal no matter how, neither the consequences.
Languages and writing are different.
Thai food is more spicy than Cambodian food. I have a Cambodian friend that returned to Cambodia earlier than planned because she couldn’t handle Thai food. I love Cambodian food and Cambodian people.
This story is very interesting. It is short direct to the point with objectivity. Thank you, Patrick!
i believe it would be best not to support this half truth and bias vdo….
FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
BTW, there are also variety of non spicy Thai and international cuisines in Thailand for people to select….
Ankor Wat hence the name is Thai tells you alot and it was built by Korm not Khmer the problem is that if you write KORM in Thai google translate it to Khmer hence more misinformation.
Can cambodian claim angkor wat when it was actually designed by indian and javanesd intellects? That's like saying the chinese created the great railway line in the US just cause uncle sam wanted cheaper coolies to build for him even though he designed the whole thing hinself.
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qhhe was trying to take the real Angkor Wat but he couldn’t. So he built a smaller replica. Like seriously? Who’s being bias now?
@@KritSecret again…
that’s why i said that it’s half truth and bias assumptions…
You see… the FACT is Angkor Wat was rediscovered by the French since 1840s , while King Mongkut started his reign in 1851 …. How could he be hiding it from the western acknowledgement as suggested by this vdo ???
Also Cambodian kings were raise , study and crown by Siamese Kings before they’re sent back to ruled Cambodian under Siam sovereignty… how could Siamese king considered himself as stealing the temple within his own sovereignty???
That’s why he didn’t command his army to sack Angkor rather he wanted to protect his belonging from the French and western colonialism.
And it’s more likely that he had his men went there to gather and record all the temple plans and took all those information for the reconstruction of the miniature, not to literally take actual temple back to Barngkok as interpreted
those channel i saw at least 20 of them it is too obvious that someone paying them.
They all Africans 😂😂
You can report it for misinformation and stuff lol and it will be taken down
Twenty doesn't do justice, I've seen countless.
So true.
Well cambo vlogs 👍
I loved how you presented this and didn't know much about this at all til now thank you
This is a half truth and bias vdo…
While….
the FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
Folks, never forget the great one, the original Cambodian YTer, No Joke Howard
he was the best. RIP great brother.
The second is Thai
Thank you for the video! As Khmer people, we should take pride in our resilience. From around 1st century CE until now, we KHMER still exist! We are powerful and strong, and we should continue to learn, grow, and spread the truth around the world until we are recognized again.
Thai people harbor hatred towards Khmer people because deep down, they know the truth, which they desperately try to deny.
Not at all strong. You were under Siam rule for over 400 years
As a half, i agree. All though it comes from both sides equally, thai folks be pressed alot more. I even heard it from my own grandma thats full thai "i hate Cambodia" stright up in English. This is a good history content, as an American i appreciate this. Since my mother died in 2011, decades later after the war, alcohol etc issues, i been trying to get in touch with the motherland history more. The elders that came from pol pot era to U.S dont talk about it. So they push their ptsd etc towards us which causes problems as we got older. Thanks for this topic my friend
It is a biased white man with zero knowledge and 100% pure opinion and nothing can be qualified as "history" in his contents
Well said. The truth is still the truth after all.
Yes, I believe the truth is the truth after all…and ….
FACT is….
the reason king Rama IV had his men built that Angkor replica was due to the FACT that he wanted it as a reminder that Angkor was once a part of Siam territory before he lose it to France.
Whereas, he has his palace built in his proud SiameseThai architectures in contrast with that Angkor miniature. This solid evidences is for everyone to see in Thailand grand royal palace.
FACT with solid evidences, not opinion.
Pictures of some Thai kings the owner of the clip also call the wrong name. What truth did you discover from this clip?
I’m so proud of you that you come to know Khmer historical facts than most Khmer that I knew. I been trying to tell Khmer history to others but they think that I’m just jealous of Thailand. The thing is I’m mixed with Thai, Vietnamese and Chinese. I just don’t like it when people bashing Khmer. I still have relatives currently living in Thailand and in Vietnam.
I love Cambodia, Thailand and Vietnam they are all beautiful countries with amazing people. Im just telling the truth. If anyone's offended that's their problem
@@CamboVlogs I totally agree with you bro. My Thai aunts and uncles and my cousins doesn’t like it when I defend Khmer so are my cousins and and aunts and uncles from Vietnam. I told them that they hate historical facts and that is what holding on to them and hates is a horrible disease to have inside their minds because it’s consumed them.
Fake histories😂🤣
@@SirFoodie1904 you are not Siam nation, do not liar
FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
Thank you so much for raising this historical issue Sir.
The historical relationship between the Khmer and the Tai/Siam/Thai peoples is complex and influenced by a variety of factors, including political, cultural, and military considerations. It's important to note that historical events and decisions are often shaped by multiple factors, and it's not always possible to pinpoint a single reason for a particular outcome.
During the Mongol invasions of China (1205-1279) , the Khmer Empire allowed the Tai/Siam/Thai people to settle in Khmer territory, possibly as a way to strengthen their own position against external threats and to benefit from the skills and resources of the newcomers.
On the other hand, during the Vietnamese invasions of Cambodia, the Tai/Siam/Thai may have had different strategic and political considerations that led them to handle the situation differently. This could have been influenced by their own internal politics, alliances, or perceptions of the Khmer as a potential threat or competitor.
It's also important to consider the historical context and the specific events that occurred during these invasions, as well as the broader regional dynamics at the time. These factors would have played a significant role in shaping the actions and decisions of both the Khmer and the Tai/Siam/Thai peoples.
You are right 👍
Hi,Cambodia.I have read the blog on Bling as well. Khmer is the name of the empire. It doesn't mean just Cambodia. but includes Laos and Siam(Thailand)These were written by extrapolation in 2013.But nowadays there is a lot of new information. Whether it is the DNA of the combodian people who are more likely to be Malaysian. and the newly discovered Dvaravati Kingdom in Thailand(Si Thep City) which is older than the Khmer empire It has been registered by UNESCO.
You should study a lot. And do not refer to the King of other countries. Because that seems uncivilized.
thai are more like chinese
Why not, the king is the main person who did it. If not mention people will never understand including me. It’s doesn’t mean it’s uncivilize. Give me a break!!
@@christineyoung4349ดังนั้นก็ควรอย่าลืมแตงหวานด้วย นั้นก็คือคนหนึ่งที่ได้ชื่อว่าเป็นกษัตริย์ของเขมรที่แท้จริง
King Jayavarman VII was the last Of the ancient bloodline, and he was Khmer.
Don’t cite the DNA results when you yourself haven’t read it. I read it and they were trying to see when south Asian dna arrived in mainland SEA since SEA was heavily influenced by India. It shows clear evidence that it started from the mixing of Khmer and Indian. They tested several others ancient mainland DNA but no match with any South Asian DNA, which proves that the earlier Khmer dna had South Asian DNA. If Tai had been the first then why was there no south Asian DNA in ancient time??? Citing the DNA results w/o reading it yourself is dumb.
Copyland is now Copeland. Saying khom isn’t khmer, is a cope. There’s plenty of info that says it is.
Khom isn't khmer though. -om =/= -er
@@shadowblitzo123 it’s not about the spelling, Sherlock. It’s about the meaning behind it.
Copyland? Lmaoo you talk bout CUMpoordia or Khmen or something? 🤣🤣
As a foreigner, how well do you know Siam's history?
Have you ever studied Thai and world history?
Notes about Siam You have to go see what archaeologists discovered in the city of Si Thep during the Dvaravati period of Thailand.
There are also various stone inscriptions recorded. Have you ever learned? You don't know enough so you shouldn't criticize.
Hey mate, did you ever meet good old No Joke Howard?
Never but was a fan
The Thais/Siamese came from southern China.
This true, Thai people are from the Hons & Mons of China.
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@@cameronset-chan8409 there were no mons in china. the mon were native to what is thailand and burma
@mukmuksurin7370 are you an original Khmer Surin? Or a fake Siamese Surin?😂
There’s a lot of debate on Thai history channel on where the word Siam came from as they don’t call themselves Siem. Also Tai is not a name used by ancient Khmers it’s Siem so very strong debate in these Thai channels that I’ve seen.
A Chinese diplomatic Zhou Daguan who lived in Angkor for 1 year has documented the ways and life style of Khmer. There are also painting in a Chinese temple on Siamese and Khmer people at that time.
I believe in the beginning the Siamese borrowed the Khmer culture but after the Ayutthaya period then Khmer borrowed some from thai. Just like in modern times with the Thai drama on T.V.
But we must acknowledge the Indians who gave us these culture so we both can adjust it to make it our own.
His record isn’t as reliable if you were to scrutinize it. He returned to China and wrote about his time in Angkor, only after 15 years he decided to write his experience in Cambodia. He only visited Angkor, but not anywhere else in the Kingdom.
@@kellysor3694lol!!! Cope! If he lived anywhere else other than angkor there wouldn't be any records cause most of khmer population only lived in angkor and its surrounding areas.
@@shadowblitzo123 you were where? In North Vietnam? Southern China? Got owned and kicked out by China? For a thousand years! Never existed in the Mekong Delta. Cry more
@@sriparameshwara3855 the funanese, the mon, the javanese, the cham, fhe malay austronesian remember rhe khmers taking the mekong delta from them.
You should get to know Sri Thep who is more than 3000 years old
Speaking the truth 👍
I disagree that Thailand had control of Cambodia for 400 years. There is no record anywhere that said that. Up until 1600 during Longkvek era, Cambodia was still independent. Cambodia already had a strong culture so Siam expanded into Khmer land and it adopted Khmer culture. In the late 1500 and 1600 Khmer had to send gifts to Thailand in exchange for protection and later Vietnam also had control over royal palace and part of Khmer land was ceded to Vietnam (Khmer Krom)
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Siam paid tribute to the Chinese Empire for nearly 600 years, but called themselves an Empire taking provinces from Cambodia in the span of 2 centuries from 1600 to 1800s.
@kellysor3694 khmer empire was also paying tribute to China during much of its existence even pre-angkor times during song dynasty all the way up to yuan dynasty. At the same time, china back then literally considered every kingdom they had a diplomatic relationship with as tributaries.😂🤦♂️
@@remhk6672 The early Khmer kingdoms of Nokor Phnom and Nokor Chenla did pay tributes, but Angkor was an empire and did not pay tributes to the Chinese dynasty nor were Khmers a vassal state to the Chinese empire like the state of Siam was.
There’s a reason why the English referred to Siamese Royal servants as “Siamese mandarins” as they were literally an extension of the Chinese empire’s historic enclave for Chinese migration for centuries.
Cambodia under Thailand Dog colony What Book ? Who international historians recoding ? 😂😂 Why Cambodia national documents , Cambodia only under France colony ? 😀
Siam did not “control” Cambodia for 400 years. In the mid 16th century, Siam’s capital of Ayuthaya was occupied by Burma. Cambodia invaded former territory from Siam, and moved its capital back to Angkor in 1570. Decades later, Siam got revenge on Cambodia for not helping them against the Burmese, and destroyed Longvek. One Prince fled for Laos, the other got captured by Siam. Siam literally allowed the king to return to Cambodia unscathed, but renamed him Soryopor (Borom Reachea 4). By 1610s, Cambodia was still fairly independent but weakened as a kingdom by constant incursions of Siam and Annam.
All this time, Siam was treated as a tributary state of the Chinese Empire (their most loyal and favorable docile state in SE Asia), in which the Siamese paid tributes since the 13th century all the way up until the mid 19th century. Cambodia last paid tributes to the Chinese during the Chenla era (pre-Angkor).
I digress, but even the best estimates according to every surviving historical document and eye-witness accounts on the royal chronicles (from the Spaniards and Dutch included) cannot even support a 400 year claim. The French Empire made Cambodia a protectorate in 1863. By this time, all the Mon kingdoms and even Champa has disappeared off the world map.
Sorry for long post, but the Khmer-Thai history is not that simple.
Khmer pick Vietnam instead of Thai 😂 to save because Khmer know that Siam what to wrap out Khmer from map😒
If Chinease but the question is "why Siam Thai not speaking Chinease language and alphabatic not the same like Japan or Korea..!"
Fake history by idiot guy.
@@kobaltg.3408 The Siamese were subordinated to the Chinese throughout their history. Not only paid tributes for centuries since their founding but well after Khmer empire independence, too. Siam gave China favorable trade preferences, allowed Chinese migration for centuries, and even up until mid 19th century, the non-Chinese Siamese population of Bangkok were 9/10 slaves.
The Tais never took up writing the Chinese script even though they were from southern China. They had no literature or culture of writing until they came into contact with Khmer and Mon people.
@@kellysor3694สยามให้หลายประเทศมาทำการค้าและตั้งหมู่บ้าน ปัจจุบัน หมูบ้านญี่ปุ่น หมู่บ้านโปรตุเกส หมูบ้านจีน ก็ยังมีอยู่ ยุคที่พูด แคว้นในละแวกนี้ยังไม่เป็นชิ้นเป็นแผ่นเลย
อาณาจักรฟูนันของเขมรมันก็แค่คนหลายกลุ่ม มันไม่ใช่ของเขมร ไม่มีหลักฐานชัดเจนว่าคือไทยหรือเขมร ยุคทราวดีของไทยก็เช่นกัน หลักฐานไม่แน่ชัด
แต่คนไทยไม่เอามาใส่เป็นราชธานีของไทยเพราะหลักฐานไม่ชัดเจน
เขมรนึกอะไรได้ก็ใส่พยายามใช้คำคมล้ากันให้คนสับสน คนเขมรปัจจุบันเริ่มจากการ เขมร: ព្រះបាទអង្គជ័យ ที่เป็นทาสของขอม ยึดอำนาจ นั้นคือยุคแรกของเขมร และทำให้ชนชั้นปกครองคือพวกทมิฬหนีไป จนถึงทุกวันนี้คนเขมรยังซ่อมบำรุงโบราณสถานของตัวเองไม่ได้
สยามไม่เคยสู้รบกับจีน ฉันเรียนที่ 天津大学และเพื่อนที่เรียนที่อื่น วิชาประวัติศาสตร์ไม่เคยบอก คุณไปเรียนไปหาข้อมูลมาจากไหน
In the picture at 6:10 the flag looks like the flag of Germany
You can go and study more from the year I told you. Timeline will help you know
1. Cambodia came under the rule of Thailand in 1431.
2. King Rama III of Thailand appointed a Ong Duang, born in 1796, lived in Thailand for 27 years, at the age of 43, returned to Cambodia. He became King of Cambodia by Wednesday, Mar 8, 1847.
3. Cambodia under French rule on Aug 11, 1863.
4. Cambodia regained independence from France on Nov 9, 1953.
5. Cambodia There was a civil war during the year 1970 to 1980
Cambodia declared independence on 9 Nov. 1953 70 years ago.
You notice only African reaction to Thai posts 😂😂
I noticed that to. Why is that?
@@Kimbuja777 I don't know but it's hilarious 😂😂
@@Kimbuja777they pay them
@@Kimbuja777they do it for views
Because of money lmaoo😂
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What England did with other colonies such as India or Myanmar ? In 1860 , Siem reap was under Siam. It was within the royal power to do this to the cities of the kingdom.Just like England did with other colonies.
The era you are talking about was during the Siam and Viet joint Suzerainty over Cambodia. The Thai and Viet were the main rival of each other not Cambodian and Thai. During this era the King of Cambodia Ang Doung still need to paid tribute to both Thailand and Vietnam. Yes, Angkor Vat was under the Thai controlled along with Siem Reap, Battambong, as well as Surin, Chanthaburi, and Trat. The Vietnamese controlled the rest Cambodia territories. The Arpaiwong controlled Cambodia territories under the Thai and the Chu-Han controlled Cambodia territories under the Viet. Unfortunately for Cambodia today, the Khmer remained under intellectual subverted because descended of the Arpaiwong name Poc and the Chu-Han name Bunchhan were the most powerful among the Khmer Rouge circle. Their descendant subverted the French administrated Cambodia and Vietnam along with the 16 years of Sihanouk independent Cambodia and destroyed everything Sihanouk had tried to educate the Khmer.
He had no idea of what he is talking about. It is simply naive of him
Just because some kingdoms were older doesn’t mean they own the culture of the younger ones…..
Actually if i used your shallow logic… Angkorian Khmer would have nothing of their own, but are all Indian and Javanese.
Ever heard of the term acculturation and development????
Here let me quote the statement of Professor David K.Wyatt , who served as Chair of the Cornell University department of history……on the art and culture of SikhoThai, so you can have a better understanding on how Siamese Thai art later influenced the Cambodian after Siam ruled over Khmer for around 400 years.
“Their art was strongly influenced by that of Ceylon and Nakhon.
Si Thammarat, and they are supposed to have imported potters from
China who created brilliant works in celadon and the famous Sankha-
lok ceramics. Whatever its origins and influences, however, Sukhothai art,
like Sukhothai life, was a thing of its own, more than eclectic and distinc-
tively Siamese.”
The Fact of Siamese Thai arts and culture is….
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
I may say as some one who’s studies history in this region, I would consider Angkor Wat to be an equivalent to a southeast Asian, Roman Empire, while future Thai kingdoms and Khmer kingdoms equally close and almost equally distant of cultural claim to Angkor wat Being somewhat of Renaissance after effect. Kind of like looking at Renaissance architecture in Rome today and in London today with direct links to let’s say the Colosseum. Would we necessarily say that Italy alone deserves 100% the rights to the culture of the Roman Empire and no one else? Pretty much all of modern Thailand used to be the Khmer empire.
Well said pat its 2024 time to end these nonsense
Sham kun is on the Angkor wall but Cambodia tried to erase it. Present day Cambodian were just the slaves.
Khmer people were never slaves of their own Khmer empire. But it is certain that Thais are the current sex slaves of the world. Both Thai men and women are submissive human beings for foreign sex and domination.
@@checkmate1015Not just that, Thai’s were also slaves during the Khmer Empire. They formed their own kingdom because one of them had the idea to rebel. After the rebellion, they were “free” from the Khmer. They were just refugees from southern China and settled in Khmer territory where they sought safety. So really, it is the Thai’s that created this whole mess.
Thai history started from this rebellion. This is why you never hear a thai talk about their “history” before sukhothai (the period where they set themselves free from their Khmer overlords).
@@HH-cy7no is that so? That’s what I had expected. I’m curious how a kingdom like Ayuthaya became powerful, it’s quite interesting. Tai people are all over the place, yet they want to claim the more unified Khmer culture as their own. Shame on Thais
I know Siem’s kids they will get angry and very disappointed on you son!😊
CCL fam ☕️
Whats up Pat ? No video... Are u busy ? Peace from France !
Vassalize means a loose controlled region or area. It doesn't mean fully controlled under its iron fist. This is why you don't see any Siamese cities or temples built in modern day Cambodia 😂. But you do see many khmer temples and cities built in modern day Thailand because the Thais got fully incorporated by Imperial Angkor central administration.
well said
Well said Cambo vlog, you are very educated in history. Those TH-camrs you showed in your video, need to learn more about the history. Thai professors and intellectuals also agree that Thai culture was influenced by the Khmer Empire, while those people skipped history classes and knew nothing about history. I think they got paid for creating that kind of video by trying to insult the Khmer people.
FACT of Thai arts and culture is…
The art is originated and passed down from India…through or “Via” many ancient kingdoms
None here started anything from scratches… they are part of acculturation and development…
“Credit” should be given to “all” the ancient kingdoms for their influences over early Siam….Be Dvaravati,Angkor, Ceylon(Sri Lanka), Tambralinga and etc.
Eventually those elements acculturated and developed into the “Younger” Siamese very own unique designs
….distinctively different from the Angkorean…
This “younger” Siamese arts and designs were passed on to our vassal states
Fact with solid evidences not opinion
Educated in history? 😂 just a white guy trying to impress Cambodian people 😂
@@KenParkpoom-fb7qh Don’t forget your ancestor who is a Chinese minorities known as Tai. That’s the solid evidence. Why does the Thai this generation forgot about their ancestors ?
@@sokarapy1421 So you are another person who is still confusing between Dai/Tai and SiameseThai , aren’t you? Please learn the Fact that these two terms, although related, but they are NOT the same …and NOT interchangeable.
FACT is….
Ayuttaya happened through the merged of two former Dvaravati kingdoms,
Suphannabhumi(Suphanburi,“X’ian” kingdom(暹國) ) and Lavo( Loburi, “Lorhu”kingdom(羅斛國) as stated clearly in the Chinese record.
These Dvaravati kingdoms were invaded and ruled by the Jenla(Chenla) in 11th century….
After reinforcements by the Tai from the North… they “assimilated” into a hybrid “AustroTai” Siamese…
Eventually with their hybrid combat arts, they fought back their territories and established “Krungthep Dvaravati Sri Ayuttaya”
Please be reminded that …since the rise of Ayuttaya , Siam has never been under the Post Angkorean rule!
@@sokarapy1421Thry admire Khmer culture too much. Their art cannot be compared to superior Khmer art. When the Thai’s are dancing I just laugh all the time. 😂😂😂 oriental looking people with oriental movements. Not original at all.
You are so great for putting the subject into light. I totally agree with you. We are neighbors who share the same religion and respect same value and culture. We should embrace our similarly and difference as do European countries. If you want to dig into the past, with today's technology we can prove everything, no need to argue. Also, with DNA tests, it will probably proof how close we are related to each others.
Both Khmer and Thai was influenced by Hinduism , that’s why our gods are similar, great video mate, if you notice the story of Ramayana is carved in stones and Hanuman is adored in both of this culture and even in parambanan temple in Indonesia there is , stop the hate Thai and Khmer rivalry, we are here to live as one
Seeing Thai people spreading false propaganda is completely disgusting. In my opinion most of “Thai” culture was influenced from Khmer.
All of Thai culture was influenced by Khmer from head to toe. Thai culture is the Khmer culture with modifications.
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มีกระโหลกสูงเท่าภูเขาไง
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@@sombatkhnor5720 all khmer culture is influencdd by hindu tamil indians. Khmer culture is the Indian culture with modifications.
การสร้างความเกลียดชังแบบนี้ ดีสำหรับประเทศกัมพูชาหรือไม่? กัมพูชาได้อะไรจากความเกลียดชังจากคนไทย?????
I dont think you watched full video. If you did you wouldn't comment. I only speak good about Thailand. Say it's a beautiful country try and people. I was just speaking facts about a historical moment .
@@CamboVlogsแต่คุณลงหัวข้อว่ากษัตริย์ไทยขโมยอังกอร์วัด อันนี้ไม่ใช่ความจริง ความจริงอังกอร์วัดก็อยู่ที่เดิม👎
@@CamboVlogsประวัติที่เขมรโกหกและเขียนขึ้นมาหลอกคนรุ่นใหม่เพื่อสร้างความเกียดชังให้กับประเทศไทย
For my perspective, I think cambodia will have angkor wat for building the country for many years. If thailand stole angkor wat the visiors will visited angkor wat in thailand not in angkor wat.
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