This will put Hornby's ex-Airfix 14XX out of its misery. Only new Hornby 14XX I can envisage would be in TT120 scale and hopefully they would take inspiration from Dapol's announcement.
I checked the IOW terrier text with a few AI detectors and they all said its Human Written. That being said, I still think it could be AI, or at the very least it’s incredibly poorly written.
Well it seems that Hornby has entered the comedy genre! Totally sounds like either an ai, or someone wanting to make fun of Hornby instead of a Hornby employee. At least the combined efforts of Dapol, Bachmann, and Rapido had something more to say! Thanks as always Sam.
"How does Hornby say he's fine, with the greatest folly, we just saw his cab on fire! Pop goes Old Ollie!" Toad, glaring dangerously from the sidelines, as his brakeman fills out a Dapol form: "Wait until Oliver hears my plan THIS time!"
Sam, I have a video idea. You could do a video going over the changes of Hornby boxes over the years, maybe include other British manufacturers too. I think it will be interesting seeing how they change in order to protect more detailed models. 🙂
He could begin the video with all the boxes stashed inside one another and a big box, then carry out the ultimate unboxing. It would put a glass-eye to sleep. 😂
Class 88 looks like another great modern image model from Dapol. If it is based on the Class 68 model like the really loco is, then it should be a great model. Have two ordered cannot wait to get my hands on them.
Here in the US, I'm excited for Bachmann's new release of the C40-8W. Alongside GE's other offering of the time, the AC4400CW, the C40-8W was immensely popular with American freight service, and hundreds remain in service today. Many C40's were later rebuilt as Dash-9s to comply with emissions standards.
The C40-8W predates both the Dash-9 and the AC44CW. The AC44CW was basically an AC Dash-9, with the Dash-8s being the models of locomotives that came before them.
Sam - with those forthcoming Class 88s it could have been worth putting a mention in for West Hill Wagon Works new OHLE masts as well. After all, it's an AC Electric loco and a feature has been made of its pantograph working so what better time for a modeller to think about adding catenary as well...
Thanks for the heads up on the 1400s. I note the BR / GWR 1401 as seen in the Titfield Thunderbolt movie is an option so i've pre ordered one to go with my other Titfield items.😁😁😁
I know you don't cover US models but probably the biggest announcement I've heard is that Scaletrains is making their first steam model, and they're going with the beautiful Norfolk and Western J class 4-8-4. I really want one, but at $425 for the DC version I'm not sure I'm going to go for it - might just try to get a Bachmann one working reliably instead.
They are making a steam model, but it’s actually from the tooling they acquired from MTH. So, wait and see how the Chinese engineers reverse engineer and adapt the old tooling to newer tooling, and then fit with electronics. This is engineered 100% in China as are all scale trains locomotives.
I've had plenty of great models that were built in China. As for it being designed there, [citation needed] I remain unconvinced - especially since MTH does at least some of their engineering in my state.
@@a2020vision_official that came from scale trains when they were talking about it. They said the China plant is reviewing the molds, trying to understand them and adapt them to their processes. MTH isn’t involved anymore in this.
Ah I see. Well there's engineering the product, and engineering the manufacturing process. I work for a manufacturing company in the US and our engineering and manufacturing for my product are located in different states 4 hours away. That's close enough that design engineers visit the plant several times a year, but far enough that you want the people on-site to understand the parts and tools being used in-house so that when something goes wrong they can fix it themselves. I can only imagine that when the manufacturing is over 24 hours travel away you'd want the same. But to be clear I haven't watched or read everything they've put out on this product, so maybe there's more to it than that.
I can't tell you how excited I am about that Dapol 14xx. I had acquired some Hornby ones over the years, often second-hand, for upgrading/detailing, but those- except the one I bought as a souvenir from the shop at the SVR- might be up for replacement now!
Finally a new 14xx for oo! I can't tell you how long ive waited for a new 14xx in oo scale (well dj models made one but its super hard to get your hands on them now) but im really glad they're making a new oo scale model of my favorite gwr tank engine.
Super happy to hear about Dapol's 14xx. I've only got an Airfix one somewhere and it's a non runner anyway. Definitely going to preorder one or maybe two, if I lack sense in the moment, given it's made of so much metal!
I noticed that dapol have 1401 BR black G W R, which will be the loco in the state it look in during the filming of titfield thunderbolt, I am so exited for that one!
Rapido apparently agreed to not develop their own 14xx when they found out dapol was making one, so I'm sure it was a bit of a show of good will from dapol 👍
When you commented on the spec of the forthcoming Dapol 517, I think you should have also drawn attention to the fact that it will be compensated - something which is essential for good running of 0-4-2s.
Hey Sam! What do you think about the new production Class 03 and Jinty from bachmann. The stated the jinty had Running Plate-mounted Sandbox Fillers, accessed via the Water Tank Keyholes. Does this mean that you'll be able to actually fill the sanders?
On the Bachmann Thomas side of things, they showed off the painted sample of Rebecca, and Beau is scheduled to release later this year (in the Fall I believe).
The blog should state that the Terrier comes with an electrically powered motor that uses gears, the model also comes with metal rimmed wheels, and the box it comes in has 8 corners.
Genuinely surprised you didn't mention Bachmann Rebecca from the Thomas line. i just want to know your thoughts on that and if you plan on getting one! Cheers, Bailey :)
That new livery for the Terrier looks sublime. The accompanying copy though is appropriately ridiculous. Perhaps for research, Hornby's copy writer could have looked up your own review on the Black 5 and then phrased it in their own apparent house style. "The LMS 'Black 5' locomotive with badly coupled tender is available now! The model features an enormous price tag for enhanced realism and a flickering light in the smokebox if you move the pre-fitted light, for slightly less enhanced realism. Regarding the lamps, the headcode formation is set up as Class R- as in "Aaargh, what lamebrain glued these push-fit fittings in place?" However, additional broken lamps fresh off the reject parts bin are included in the accessory bag to make up the weight. Hornby has been working for many years to bring this new model of the classic Black 5 to you, and you can see the hallmarks (and fingerprints) of our construction process all over it." I'm now trying to imagine a new Engine Shed blog entry for the 48DS if they released it today. "Aww, innit cute and ickle? Comes with truck!"
Apologies if I misheard you. Did you say that the 14xx also came as a 48xx variant. The class was originally 48xx but when the Class 28xx 2-8-0 were converted to gas just before WWII they were renumbered to the 48xx series and the 0-4-2's were renumbered 14xx
Fish was just a naming protocol that was printed on the wagon and the TOPS lists. The smallest I remember were trout a small open wagon. The largest I remember at Stratford were Whale 50 ton bogie ballast-bulk wagon.
I’d definitely say Hornby is trying to use AI to replace the staff working on the engine shed blog, probably to cut costs! Just a shame no one actually thought to read over the announcements before posting them 😬
Hi Sam, I’ve already preordered my full cab version in green but being from the bottom off Australia it will take a little while to get here. I’m very excited however YES it is quite expensive around $650 au, I run on30 Aussie bush theme and it will fit in very nicely indeed.
Because the Hornby 14xx tooling was acquired from Dapol about 20-25 years ago, before then it began life under the Airfix brand. Tooling must be 40+ years old.
@@Liam199Mcgrathyour right they could certainly try and do it, but that would eat into any profit they may make from the model and considering they still sell models and wagons with airfix tools, and dapol models being already on the market by the time it was designed and tooled it would need to be far better than the dapol model to even get people interested, and i just dont think modern hornby have the enthusiasm to produce a perfect model without having some sort of major compromise or product flaw
@@Liam199Mcgrath i completely agree with you, but that doesn’t change anything about Hornbys greed towards the current market, keeping prices new without keeping models new, i honestly want more companies like dapol to become house hold names, they seem to at least put some reasonable amount of effort into producing new models and it should be more recognised, people need to return faulty or often overpriced products when not up to spec and see if Hornby changes their attitude towards its products, if they didn’t change after that sort of backlash the doors would close on a greedy company
Hi Sam, I've been waiting 5 years for R3731 from Hornby (was in the 2019 range). It just slides back 6months every 6months. No updates, no nothing from Hornby. I have asked their social media team several times on Facebook for an update but they have just ignored my comments.
Hi Sam, even though I now model in N I always watch the news! Any chance including some N gauge news in future bulletins?? Eg Sonic models are releasing what looks like a superb GWR prairie very soon. Kind regards Terry.
I was just asking if there was a 14XX model you'd recommend, and the Dapol one might be it. I am going to hold off on pre-ordering for the moment though, it's quite far off. As far as joke liveries go, in the US one of the more famous ones is the "Conrail steamers". A few of them were produced as models from various cheaper manufacturers but Conrail never had steam engines of their own. It probably won't make your skin crawl the same way it does for US railfans, but it might be worth looking up.
Hi Sam, Oh joy, I've got my 14xx on order. Tempted by a 517 to haul the Genesis coaches. The red underframe will make it stand out.Once again Dapol lead the way on cost + features = value and happy modellers. Gotta get me a bloater in shirtbutton too. Aaw, come on Hornby, sooner or later we're going to give up on you and that would be sad. So much choice now. Cheers Sam.
Sam, you didn't mention the two new Adams O2 tanks related to the Isle of Wight that EFE Rail is releasing. When I read up about the new Adams O2 tanks I got the impression that the technology has been modified/simplified. I'd love to know whether that is factual or whether EFE Rail plans to release the locomotives using the same dual-driven DJ Models specification.
I believe a new class 37 is being made, a police train pack with a matching mark 1 would be fun Fictional liveries are produced in limited numbers (As are pointless gold plated models) so I think this can be done if they don’t over produce
Not entirely fictional as they used a police 37 in, I think, a BR HS125 TV commercial in the 70s/80s. I believe the joke was that the 125 was nicked for speeding.
The rapido guy fawkes gunpowder vans sold really well when they were released on their own. They were like hens teeth when I was looking for one earlier in the year
Hi sam, i was wondering if you know any companies that produce static models? I would like to have some models to display (class 158) but all i can find are bachmann and hornby but i dont have a model railway so i only need static? Thanks
18:40 The livery photos of the IoW Terrier came as a slight surprise to me, because when I originally pre-order it the livery was lined black. Apparently this livery was incorrect and it should have been Crimson Red as it is now. Don't get me wrong, I think the model looks fantastic and I won't be cancelling my pre-order, but it would have been nice if Hornby had communicated such a significant change to those that had pre-ordered it, in case we wanted to cancel.
i would have pre ordered that dapol 14xx with the open cab if it wasnt for the terriers with banana running boards we got from dapol a while back, i think ill wait and see before buying.
It's the lack of hornbys proof reading that gets me. I used to design model traction engine kits, and that meant me writing instructions. Once I had done those my boss would read them to make sure they made sense (him being the businessman of the company and knowing very little about the product), and so would the lead manual machinist, so you get a good balance between instructing both people who know what they're doing and people who don't. If hornby had a similar system, they wouldn't be putting drivel like this out to the public. It is just shocking that they don't.
Surprised you didn't mention Rails of Sheffield auctioning off the old Hattons stock. The first sale has already happened, with all lots sold at way above estimate in most cases and there are several more auctions still to come.
It’s very odd. I’m not an English modeler, I’m N scale in the US. But I just love watching your videos. You are so good at doing these “news and reviews” videos that it’s a pleasure to enjoy them even though I’m very very unlikely to see a review of anything I would buy. Thanks for the excellent and “addictive” work 😊👍👍
Thank you very much for your kind words, that's really lovely to see! I will try to cover some N gauge US models at some point for you! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains only if it makes sense for you of course! I don’t think it really matters. I love model railroading, and what makes you great is the way you cover things and your personal style. I’ve seen other people review things I WOULD buy, and found them uninteresting. You make a review of even a lousy product fun to watch. And since it’s always a RAILROAD model, it’s interesting. Keep em coming Sam! 😊
You know, seeing the new Dapol Tanks are making me consider cancelling my preorder for the new Black 5 and order both classes. Don't know if I should though as the model I preordered is the Railway Icons Eric Treacy and the renders look amazing.
7mm narrow gauge at 1:43.5 scale is already modelled in the uk. peco and others make rolling stock kits for it. All bachman are doing is making ready to run models for an existing scale.
Actually, the gunpowder van has already been released. So it seems viable for a wagon at any rate because it has sold out pretty much everywhere, I have two. So it seems a sound concept for a wagon. I am not sure about a whole loco. I have the G. Fawkes fireless loco on pre-order, from the Wagon Works which has also commissioned a 1907 wagon. If I were to place a bet, I'd say that this is a viable option. Not every layout is set in an exact location, and many people have fictional industries. And some of those industries had locomotives. Hornby already did a similar thing with the ex-Percy tooling in the Tea-Brown Distilleries livery.
Some wonderful models to look forward to! The Dapol 042Ts look superb, and one can only hope that they live up to the promise...and the same goes for the gorgeous Rapido 01... Despite the awful blog, the IWCR Terrier in crimson lake looks lovely, too.
They really do look wonderful don't they? I think they will live up to it - they've got coreless motors so that should be the motor issue solved. It sure does look lovely - complete with it's four round windows and a single chimney at the front! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam Train I think Bachmann was really good this summer. I looking forward Class 03 Ex-D2054 British Industrial Sand White and 12T YOB Diesel-Hydraulic Crane DRP81523 Javis/Fastline Maroon. Like them to do a rerun Quarry Hunslet 0-4-0ST 'Margaret' Penrhyn Quarry Lined Black (Early) and Quarry Hunslet 0-4-0ST 'Britomart' Pen-yr-Orsedd Quarry Blue in 009 narrow gauge.
5:25, Correction, the 12T Plasser YOB Crane that Hattons were originally meant to produce never even finished the CAD development stage as far as I know. From what I was told this is an all new tooling developed for EFE Rail from the ground up.
Love the NG7 range from Bachmann 😍 wiill definitely buy. I model in On30, but with this Hunslet (and especially the cabless versions), not much between 1:43 and 1:48 - besides, as we are generally viewed as the “black sheep” of the model railway fraternity, we can get away with almost anything 😂
The 517 is an obvious one - the 14xx predecessor - and I know anumber of Hornby/Dapol/Airfix ones have already ended up as 517's. Looks nice - but I dread the price! The IWC terrier in maroon looks nice too -oh dear, I can resist anything except temptation........
I will be looking at getting one of the 88s from rails, I’m even thinking of getting the one with DCC sound as I have the ability to use it now, mainly great western additions for me this month, the steam railmotor was the first addition then a week later I got myself a rake of 5 hornby GWR collett Corridor coaches which I mainly got for my 18000 and 18100 Gas turbine locomotives.
Sounds great David - they do look good don't they? Hopefully Dapol did a good mechanism in them too! The new coaches sound awesome too :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
0:13 Has anyone else ever wondered why Sam has a smokebox for a face at this moment in the news videos? I have, ever since I started the April Fools livestream from all those years ago and realized just what it was that unsettled me about this frame. (That wheel is right where Sam's face is when he welcomes us back to the railway in his normal videos.)
15:20 I actually really like these Fawkes Liveries, sure they're a joke and total fiction, but they look fantastic. Rapido have really put some thought and effort into them, unlike some other manufacturers slapping basic fictional liveries onto ancient mouldings and charging top dollar.
Hmmm Rapido doing vanfits, lots liveries, better than the Hornby version & of course the old Wrenn/Dapol one... but U can still get the Parkside kit for around 10 quid...or so
An LMS Princess in Saxon (Rock Band) livery ~ They released a single back in the 1980's "Princess of the Night". An LNER A4 in modern LNER livery (current operator)
In terms of a fun livery, would not mind at all an 0-4-0 pre grouping locomotive in that of the 'Merioneth and Llantisilly Railway Traction Company Limited' from ivor the engine. Might even tempt me to buy an old hornby 0-4-0 trainset loco if thed did one in those colours
@@SamsTrains University students have been using ChatGP and other AI generative tool's as research for a while now... it's not a big surprise to me that when they graduate and move into the business world, it's deemed acceptable practice.... It's pretty naff, though, the stuff you showed, for sure... quality control is not one of Hornby's strong points it appears 🤔
Well I’m rather pissed at my dealer right now. Ordered a Hornby 9F (R3988 Evening Star/DCC/Sound Fitted) and they delivered it to North Carolina, I live in Florida…how the hell does a dealer mess up that badly? 🤣🤣
It sounds to me like Hornby have handed their blog-writing duties over to AI.
"OK ChatGPT, write a video script in the style of Jago Hazzard."
💻🔥💥
Tonnes of people are saying that - it does read like a chatgpt output... but hard to tell!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wouldn’t surprise me knowing Hornby
Nice seeing you hear jago
exactly Mr Hazzard!
Can't wait for Hornby's announcement of a newly tooled 14xx!
haha yep - you just know that's coming xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sarcasm?
@@levidarling5107yes and no
😂
Its probably just the same 20 yr model but a dcc decoder and priced 20 times more than the already expensive older version.
I wish I could agree about Hornby not selling any more 14xxs, but they haven't even done any Beatles versions yet!
haha that's true - well Dapol probably won't do that... so there's a gap in the market!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@capitallines 😂
This will put Hornby's ex-Airfix 14XX out of its misery. Only new Hornby 14XX I can envisage would be in TT120 scale and hopefully they would take inspiration from Dapol's announcement.
ngl the Hornby blog reads like it was written by an AI
It's as if they're daring Locomotion Motion to "roast" them 😂
I suspect they uploaded the photos, asked for a blog article and then did no QA on what was produced.
It sure looks like that - I just can't believe they'd be crazy enough to do that....
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I checked the IOW terrier text with a few AI detectors and they all said its Human Written. That being said, I still think it could be AI, or at the very least it’s incredibly poorly written.
i laughed so hard when you started looking at the terrier and exclaimed in surprise that it had a chimney, lol.
Hornby: *chugs their hot tea* “GET THE SHOVELS LADS, WE MUST DIG UP AND REANIMATE THE 14XX”
Well it seems that Hornby has entered the comedy genre! Totally sounds like either an ai, or someone wanting to make fun of Hornby instead of a Hornby employee. At least the combined efforts of Dapol, Bachmann, and Rapido had something more to say! Thanks as always Sam.
"How does Hornby say he's fine, with the greatest folly, we just saw his cab on fire! Pop goes Old Ollie!"
Toad, glaring dangerously from the sidelines, as his brakeman fills out a Dapol form: "Wait until Oliver hears my plan THIS time!"
Good heavens, Sam actually mentioned the class 88!
I was somewhat surprised he never mentioned it when it was announced quite some time ago
Sam, I have a video idea. You could do a video going over the changes of Hornby boxes over the years, maybe include other British manufacturers too. I think it will be interesting seeing how they change in order to protect more detailed models. 🙂
That is interesting thanks a lot for the great suggestion!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
He could begin the video with all the boxes stashed inside one another and a big box, then carry out the ultimate unboxing. It would put a glass-eye to sleep. 😂
@@SamsTrains maybe next time you can update us on the Thomas and friends Bachmann range
Class 88 looks like another great modern image model from Dapol. If it is based on the Class 68 model like the really loco is, then it should be a great model. Have two ordered cannot wait to get my hands on them.
Very good update and you were spot on with your comments about the latest Engine Shed blog.
Here in the US, I'm excited for Bachmann's new release of the C40-8W. Alongside GE's other offering of the time, the AC4400CW, the C40-8W was immensely popular with American freight service, and hundreds remain in service today. Many C40's were later rebuilt as Dash-9s to comply with emissions standards.
The C40-8W predates both the Dash-9 and the AC44CW. The AC44CW was basically an AC Dash-9, with the Dash-8s being the models of locomotives that came before them.
I think The Unlucky Tug would love to pick up one of the new 14xx models for his custom Oliver model.
Sam - with those forthcoming Class 88s it could have been worth putting a mention in for West Hill Wagon Works new OHLE masts as well. After all, it's an AC Electric loco and a feature has been made of its pantograph working so what better time for a modeller to think about adding catenary as well...
Thanks for the heads up on the 1400s. I note the BR / GWR 1401 as seen in the Titfield Thunderbolt movie is an option so i've pre ordered one to go with my other Titfield items.😁😁😁
remember that the Hornby Terrier has 3 wheels on each side (which is very important)
Yeah absolutely - I feel they should have mentioned this in the blog! Also that it's a train
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I know you don't cover US models but probably the biggest announcement I've heard is that Scaletrains is making their first steam model, and they're going with the beautiful Norfolk and Western J class 4-8-4. I really want one, but at $425 for the DC version I'm not sure I'm going to go for it - might just try to get a Bachmann one working reliably instead.
Wow that does sound good - I'll look into it at least! Thank you :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
They are making a steam model, but it’s actually from the tooling they acquired from MTH. So, wait and see how the Chinese engineers reverse engineer and adapt the old tooling to newer tooling, and then fit with electronics. This is engineered 100% in China as are all scale trains locomotives.
I've had plenty of great models that were built in China. As for it being designed there, [citation needed] I remain unconvinced - especially since MTH does at least some of their engineering in my state.
@@a2020vision_official that came from scale trains when they were talking about it. They said the China plant is reviewing the molds, trying to understand them and adapt them to their processes. MTH isn’t involved anymore in this.
Ah I see. Well there's engineering the product, and engineering the manufacturing process. I work for a manufacturing company in the US and our engineering and manufacturing for my product are located in different states 4 hours away. That's close enough that design engineers visit the plant several times a year, but far enough that you want the people on-site to understand the parts and tools being used in-house so that when something goes wrong they can fix it themselves. I can only imagine that when the manufacturing is over 24 hours travel away you'd want the same. But to be clear I haven't watched or read everything they've put out on this product, so maybe there's more to it than that.
I can't tell you how excited I am about that Dapol 14xx. I had acquired some Hornby ones over the years, often second-hand, for upgrading/detailing, but those- except the one I bought as a souvenir from the shop at the SVR- might be up for replacement now!
Finally a new 14xx for oo! I can't tell you how long ive waited for a new 14xx in oo scale (well dj models made one but its super hard to get your hands on them now) but im really glad they're making a new oo scale model of my favorite gwr tank engine.
Very relaxing once again Sam, and so intriguing again seeing what's happening in the OO scene. Cheerio.
Great newscast as always thanks Sam. Haven’t Hornby been doing Joke Liveries for decades? The Beatles? The ‘Platinum jubilee’ HST? etc etc !
0:55 Does this finally mean we're going to get a updated 14xx in OO Sam!!!
Cheers Jasper & Willow
It does!! All the modern bells and whistles :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains except for the fact that the bells and whistles are actually DCC decoders.
Super happy to hear about Dapol's 14xx. I've only got an Airfix one somewhere and it's a non runner anyway. Definitely going to preorder one or maybe two, if I lack sense in the moment, given it's made of so much metal!
18:47 I actually can't wait for those Sam. It almost looks like the London transport maroon that the 57xx used to wear.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
I noticed that dapol have 1401 BR black G W R, which will be the loco in the state it look in during the filming of titfield thunderbolt, I am so exited for that one!
Ooh that's a good spot - how absolutely awesome! That won't have been an accident!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Rapido apparently agreed to not develop their own 14xx when they found out dapol was making one, so I'm sure it was a bit of a show of good will from dapol 👍
When you commented on the spec of the forthcoming Dapol 517, I think you should have also drawn attention to the fact that it will be compensated - something which is essential for good running of 0-4-2s.
Yeah true - though Dapol compensate all of their models, so it's a standard Dapol feature!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You didn't mention the compensated chassis with the Dapol 14xx!
Hey Sam! What do you think about the new production Class 03 and Jinty from bachmann. The stated the jinty had Running Plate-mounted Sandbox Fillers, accessed via the Water Tank Keyholes. Does this mean that you'll be able to actually fill the sanders?
While working sandboxes on an OO scale would be VERY amusing (and useless) I think they mean the side plates open up so you can have a look haha
On the Bachmann Thomas side of things, they showed off the painted sample of Rebecca, and Beau is scheduled to release later this year (in the Fall I believe).
Dapol making a new 1400?
And it's way more modern??
And it's at a reasonable price???
Hornby is being kicked to the curb and I'm all here for it
The blog should state that the Terrier comes with an electrically powered motor that uses gears, the model also comes with metal rimmed wheels, and the box it comes in has 8 corners.
Genuinely surprised you didn't mention Bachmann Rebecca from the Thomas line. i just want to know your thoughts on that and if you plan on getting one!
Cheers,
Bailey :)
That new livery for the Terrier looks sublime. The accompanying copy though is appropriately ridiculous. Perhaps for research, Hornby's copy writer could have looked up your own review on the Black 5 and then phrased it in their own apparent house style.
"The LMS 'Black 5' locomotive with badly coupled tender is available now! The model features an enormous price tag for enhanced realism and a flickering light in the smokebox if you move the pre-fitted light, for slightly less enhanced realism. Regarding the lamps, the headcode formation is set up as Class R- as in "Aaargh, what lamebrain glued these push-fit fittings in place?" However, additional broken lamps fresh off the reject parts bin are included in the accessory bag to make up the weight. Hornby has been working for many years to bring this new model of the classic Black 5 to you, and you can see the hallmarks (and fingerprints) of our construction process all over it."
I'm now trying to imagine a new Engine Shed blog entry for the 48DS if they released it today. "Aww, innit cute and ickle? Comes with truck!"
Hahaha I shall submit this to Hornby as a more accurate alternative!!
Apologies if I misheard you. Did you say that the 14xx also came as a 48xx variant. The class was originally 48xx but when the Class 28xx 2-8-0 were converted to gas just before WWII they were renumbered to the 48xx series and the 0-4-2's were renumbered 14xx
Fish was just a naming protocol that was printed on the wagon and the TOPS lists. The smallest I remember were trout a small open wagon. The largest I remember at Stratford were Whale 50 ton bogie ballast-bulk wagon.
Fascinating! Thanks a lot for sharing!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I’d definitely say Hornby is trying to use AI to replace the staff working on the engine shed blog, probably to cut costs! Just a shame no one actually thought to read over the announcements before posting them 😬
Hi Sam, I’ve already preordered my full cab version in green but being from the bottom off Australia it will take a little while to get here. I’m very excited however YES it is quite expensive around $650 au, I run on30 Aussie bush theme and it will fit in very nicely indeed.
To be fair after your latest ruston review highlighting the fact a loco has rear windows is now bonus features
Hornby Black #5 Works Great on Straight Track!!! 🤣🤣🤣
If Dapol can produce a 14xx in that immense detail and from metal, why can’t Hornby
Because the Hornby 14xx tooling was acquired from Dapol about 20-25 years ago, before then it began life under the Airfix brand. Tooling must be 40+ years old.
@@MrCooperman if dapol can retool it, so can hornby. They are the bigger company
@@Liam199Mcgrathyour right they could certainly try and do it, but that would eat into any profit they may make from the model and considering they still sell models and wagons with airfix tools, and dapol models being already on the market by the time it was designed and tooled it would need to be far better than the dapol model to even get people interested, and i just dont think modern hornby have the enthusiasm to produce a perfect model without having some sort of major compromise or product flaw
@@kanehood3478 yeah but arfix so now so outdated it’s unbelievable
@@Liam199Mcgrath i completely agree with you, but that doesn’t change anything about Hornbys greed towards the current market, keeping prices new without keeping models new, i honestly want more companies like dapol to become house hold names, they seem to at least put some reasonable amount of effort into producing new models and it should be more recognised, people need to return faulty or often overpriced products when not up to spec and see if Hornby changes their attitude towards its products, if they didn’t change after that sort of backlash the doors would close on a greedy company
Hi Sam, I've been waiting 5 years for R3731 from Hornby (was in the 2019 range). It just slides back 6months every 6months. No updates, no nothing from Hornby. I have asked their social media team several times on Facebook for an update but they have just ignored my comments.
Hi Sam, even though I now model in N I always watch the news! Any chance including some N gauge news in future bulletins?? Eg Sonic models are releasing what looks like a superb GWR prairie very soon. Kind regards Terry.
I was just asking if there was a 14XX model you'd recommend, and the Dapol one might be it. I am going to hold off on pre-ordering for the moment though, it's quite far off.
As far as joke liveries go, in the US one of the more famous ones is the "Conrail steamers". A few of them were produced as models from various cheaper manufacturers but Conrail never had steam engines of their own. It probably won't make your skin crawl the same way it does for US railfans, but it might be worth looking up.
Yeah it should be a good while yet. That's interesting too - I guess people do buy them then??
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Im excited for the new Dapol 14xx! I always wanted one but Hornbys version was never DCC ready. Gald someone is stepping up to the plate!
I'm super excited about it too - and it's so affordable!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, Oh joy, I've got my 14xx on order. Tempted by a 517 to haul the Genesis coaches. The red underframe will make it stand out.Once again Dapol lead the way on cost + features = value and happy modellers. Gotta get me a bloater in shirtbutton too. Aaw, come on Hornby, sooner or later we're going to give up on you and that would be sad. So much choice now. Cheers Sam.
Sam, you didn't mention the two new Adams O2 tanks related to the Isle of Wight that EFE Rail is releasing.
When I read up about the new Adams O2 tanks I got the impression that the technology has been modified/simplified. I'd love to know whether that is factual or whether EFE Rail plans to release the locomotives using the same dual-driven DJ Models specification.
I believe a new class 37 is being made, a police train pack with a matching mark 1 would be fun
Fictional liveries are produced in limited numbers
(As are pointless gold plated models) so I think this can be done if they don’t over produce
Not entirely fictional as they used a police 37 in, I think, a BR HS125 TV commercial in the 70s/80s. I believe the joke was that the 125 was nicked for speeding.
@@caw25sha indeed. If we can have titfield packs and a GT3 in Br Black then I say, why not?
The rapido guy fawkes gunpowder vans sold really well when they were released on their own. They were like hens teeth when I was looking for one earlier in the year
Any news on Genesis from Rails x Hatton's?
Hi sam, i was wondering if you know any companies that produce static models? I would like to have some models to display (class 158) but all i can find are bachmann and hornby but i dont have a model railway so i only need static? Thanks
18:40 The livery photos of the IoW Terrier came as a slight surprise to me, because when I originally pre-order it the livery was lined black. Apparently this livery was incorrect and it should have been Crimson Red as it is now. Don't get me wrong, I think the model looks fantastic and I won't be cancelling my pre-order, but it would have been nice if Hornby had communicated such a significant change to those that had pre-ordered it, in case we wanted to cancel.
If Dapol comes out with an all new, fully loaded Hall class and specifically Olton Hall in red, I will be very keen
Surprised you havent talked about the footage of bachmann rebecca in a full paint job, as that was also shown off recently
Cant wait for the clown world model wagon with Big photo of Rishi or even Camoron.
Oh good god - don't tempt them!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
i would have pre ordered that dapol 14xx with the open cab if it wasnt for the terriers with banana running boards we got from dapol a while back, i think ill wait and see before buying.
It's the lack of hornbys proof reading that gets me. I used to design model traction engine kits, and that meant me writing instructions. Once I had done those my boss would read them to make sure they made sense (him being the businessman of the company and knowing very little about the product), and so would the lead manual machinist, so you get a good balance between instructing both people who know what they're doing and people who don't. If hornby had a similar system, they wouldn't be putting drivel like this out to the public. It is just shocking that they don't.
Surprised you didn't mention Rails of Sheffield auctioning off the old Hattons stock. The first sale has already happened, with all lots sold at way above estimate in most cases and there are several more auctions still to come.
It’s very odd. I’m not an English modeler, I’m N scale in the US. But I just love watching your videos. You are so good at doing these “news and reviews” videos that it’s a pleasure to enjoy them even though I’m very very unlikely to see a review of anything I would buy.
Thanks for the excellent and “addictive” work 😊👍👍
Thank you very much for your kind words, that's really lovely to see! I will try to cover some N gauge US models at some point for you!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains only if it makes sense for you of course! I don’t think it really matters. I love model railroading, and what makes you great is the way you cover things and your personal style. I’ve seen other people review things I WOULD buy, and found them uninteresting. You make a review of even a lousy product fun to watch. And since it’s always a RAILROAD model, it’s interesting. Keep em coming Sam! 😊
Stoked for a (hopefully) decent functioning 14xx class
A new tooled 00 gauge 14xx! Finally!!
Finally indeed!!
There weren't a lot of stream locomotive announced this month Sam, let's just hope there be more next month.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
You know, seeing the new Dapol Tanks are making me consider cancelling my preorder for the new Black 5 and order both classes.
Don't know if I should though as the model I preordered is the Railway Icons Eric Treacy and the renders look amazing.
I’m tempted to get a GWR 517.. now that we are finally getting a re-tooled 14xx, lets hope we can get a re-tooled J94/Austerity 0-6-0 soon
7mm narrow gauge at 1:43.5 scale is already modelled in the uk. peco and others make rolling stock kits for it. All bachman are doing is making ready to run models for an existing scale.
If you drop into the new display hall at the Vale of Rheidol Railway in Aberystwyth, you can see the real original Margaret up close and personal.
I’m very happy about the 517 and 14xx as they both used to work on my local branchline before it closed!!
Great video as always Sam!
Hi Sam and can you tell me when will the 1 number locomotive be available to buy
Actually, the gunpowder van has already been released. So it seems viable for a wagon at any rate because it has sold out pretty much everywhere, I have two. So it seems a sound concept for a wagon. I am not sure about a whole loco. I have the G. Fawkes fireless loco on pre-order, from the Wagon Works which has also commissioned a 1907 wagon.
If I were to place a bet, I'd say that this is a viable option. Not every layout is set in an exact location, and many people have fictional industries. And some of those industries had locomotives. Hornby already did a similar thing with the ex-Percy tooling in the Tea-Brown Distilleries livery.
I thought affiliate links popped below are for you, not for us. Thanks though x
Some wonderful models to look forward to! The Dapol 042Ts look superb, and one can only hope that they live up to the promise...and the same goes for the gorgeous Rapido 01... Despite the awful blog, the IWCR Terrier in crimson lake looks lovely, too.
They really do look wonderful don't they? I think they will live up to it - they've got coreless motors so that should be the motor issue solved. It sure does look lovely - complete with it's four round windows and a single chimney at the front!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The G Fawkes 5 plank wagon seemed to sell out very quickly, which may have encouraged them
Sam Train I think Bachmann was really good this summer. I looking forward Class 03 Ex-D2054 British Industrial Sand White and 12T YOB Diesel-Hydraulic Crane DRP81523 Javis/Fastline Maroon. Like them to do a rerun Quarry Hunslet 0-4-0ST 'Margaret' Penrhyn Quarry Lined Black (Early) and Quarry Hunslet 0-4-0ST 'Britomart' Pen-yr-Orsedd Quarry Blue in 009 narrow gauge.
Oh yeh you firgot the Bachmann 00 Mk1s...BSO FO & RBR
I’ve been patiently waiting for Arrolite for so long
Finally the hornby 14xx is replaced Dapol answered our cries
5:25, Correction, the 12T Plasser YOB Crane that Hattons were originally meant to produce never even finished the CAD development stage as far as I know.
From what I was told this is an all new tooling developed for EFE Rail from the ground up.
im looking forward to that 1400, i have a dapol one from the 90s and it runs like a dream so if that’s anything to go by this will be awesome
Hornbys engine shed blog seems like it's been written by chat gpt!!
Love the NG7 range from Bachmann 😍 wiill definitely buy. I model in On30, but with this Hunslet (and especially the cabless versions), not much between 1:43 and 1:48 - besides, as we are generally viewed as the “black sheep” of the model railway fraternity, we can get away with almost anything 😂
Imagine a Sams Trains fictional livery from Rapido. That would be amazing!
The 517 is an obvious one - the 14xx predecessor - and I know anumber of Hornby/Dapol/Airfix ones have already ended up as 517's. Looks nice - but I dread the price! The IWC terrier in maroon looks nice too -oh dear, I can resist anything except temptation........
NG7 is the same as O-16.5, O scale running on oo gauge track, its been around for quite a while.
I will be looking at getting one of the 88s from rails, I’m even thinking of getting the one with DCC sound as I have the ability to use it now, mainly great western additions for me this month, the steam railmotor was the first addition then a week later I got myself a rake of 5 hornby GWR collett Corridor coaches which I mainly got for my 18000 and 18100 Gas turbine locomotives.
Sounds great David - they do look good don't they? Hopefully Dapol did a good mechanism in them too! The new coaches sound awesome too :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
0:13 Has anyone else ever wondered why Sam has a smokebox for a face at this moment in the news videos? I have, ever since I started the April Fools livestream from all those years ago and realized just what it was that unsettled me about this frame. (That wheel is right where Sam's face is when he welcomes us back to the railway in his normal videos.)
15:20 I actually really like these Fawkes Liveries, sure they're a joke and total fiction, but they look fantastic. Rapido have really put some thought and effort into them, unlike some other manufacturers slapping basic fictional liveries onto ancient mouldings and charging top dollar.
Hi, I think that the Pal van looks good, But I'm wondering why the Bloater, which is an obviously bigger model, is £5 cheaper?
Yeah it's strange - EFE rail models are usually not that good value - hopefully they turn out to be decent!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hmmm Rapido doing vanfits, lots liveries, better than the Hornby version & of course the old Wrenn/Dapol one... but U can still get the Parkside kit for around 10 quid...or so
An LMS Princess in Saxon (Rock Band) livery ~ They released a single back in the 1980's "Princess of the Night".
An LNER A4 in modern LNER livery (current operator)
I have suggested a Pacer in Sex Pistols livery. Might see one someday...
And why not an Ozzy Osbourne steamer ? Crazy Train anyone ?
"Here is a loco of the rail type. The design is very human" Hornby's chat bot, when it posted its blog.
A fun joke livery would be a breekon and hope post van from the magnus archives!
i'll order one of those 14XX models from Dapol...they look to be great models.....lets see.....price is right too.....cheers.
In terms of a fun livery, would not mind at all an 0-4-0 pre grouping locomotive in that of the 'Merioneth and Llantisilly Railway Traction Company Limited' from ivor the engine. Might even tempt me to buy an old hornby 0-4-0 trainset loco if thed did one in those colours
Great news stories, full of energy...
I agree with the general feeling that AI wrote the Hornby Engine Shed articles....
Thanks Glenn - I can't believe they'd do that but it does look like it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains University students have been using ChatGP and other AI generative tool's as research for a while now... it's not a big surprise to me that when they graduate and move into the business world, it's deemed acceptable practice....
It's pretty naff, though, the stuff you showed, for sure... quality control is not one of Hornby's strong points it appears 🤔
Awesome video today Sam dapol looks like there on a roll and have you seen the Bachmann Rebecca
Well I’m rather pissed at my dealer right now. Ordered a Hornby 9F (R3988 Evening Star/DCC/Sound Fitted) and they delivered it to North Carolina, I live in Florida…how the hell does a dealer mess up that badly? 🤣🤣
Goddammit Sam, stop making my shopping list longer. 😆
I mean rapido has already done a joke with the bramble livery for their new SE&CR 01. Which im definitely gonna to pick up
Great update Sam, but how's about some N Gauge news, give your recent reviews?
I will start doing N gauge in the news, but only for major announcements!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Those rods on the O gauge hunslets look inaccurate. Thought they were going to be thinner