US Rifle M14 to 500yds: Practical Accuracy (Springfield Armory M1a NM)
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The standard U.S. M14 rifle was has the shortest service life of any U.S. service rifle, but has enjoyed a lasting mark in popular culture, a 1960's Vietnam War icon, and a cherished rifle for target shooters, up until the M16A2 system showed up.
The M14 then went on to be the Mk14 and the M21 DMR/ SWS rifles later in the Global War on Terror era. The M14 still serves in its original format in some U.S. Navy vessels and U.S. Army National Guard units (very sparingly).
In the recent years, the AR15 systems have far surpassed the M14 rifle in service rifle matches. Those who prefer to shoot classics, tend to bring their M1 Garand out.
Furthermore, we've positively isolated heat-related problems with the gas system... but does that mean that the M14 is a poor choice for target shooting? We investigate.
Ammunition used: German MEN 7.62x51mm NATO surplus 148gr
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Distance Conversions:
150y - 137m
200y - 182m
250y - 229m
300y - 274m
350y - 320m
400y - 366m
450y - 411m
500y - 457m
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Outstanding Private Pyle! Finally we found Something that you can do Well.
7.6.2 millimeter. FULL....METAL....JACKET
@@moeed911 correct, but you have to say it in American, "millimeter".
@@davidcruz8667 thanks for the correction
@@moeed911 no biggie, just thought it might get you into private Pyle's mindset a little better. After all, he'd already lost his mind, so it may have been a little difficult for him. Oorrah Marine Corps! Semper Fi.
Private Pyle O300 infantry! You made it!
I enjoy watching your shooting videos, my father was on the USMC shooting team, won more than one National Matches 1,000 yard open sights Match Grade M1. Served with the 5th Marines landing on Iwo Jima not long after he turned 18 years of age. He was wounded severely during the Korean War, shot in the back and the bullet remained lodged next to his heart until he passed in 1998. Next thing that happened is a mortar hit beside him blowing the calf muscles off his legs, they wanted to amputate but he fought them on it. He was a tough Marine who served with the old breed. Chesty Puller used to come and sit by dad when he was practicing at the range. He shot 11 consecutive bullseyes on one match but the pit didn't flag that his target was down, he counted over and bullseye the target beside him by accident, stupid mistake ruined a good run and score by not flagging the target. If he were here I know he would like your show. He was a Distinguished Shooter and an expert with a rifle or pistol. He understood windage and elevation and his shooting reflected it. Dad served 20 years until they railroaded him out because of his injuries. I never heard him complain a day in his life except how he was discharged unfairly a few years before he died of cancer. Just wanted to share that with you. I did witness his skills with a pistol one day back in 1973 at the Clearwater Florida police range, he had everyone's attention and everyone stopped shooting to come talk with him. They piled their weapons every where around him and said it would be an honor if he would shoot with their pistols. It was all day but I enjoyed sitting there listening to him instruct and talk about keeping on target, giving advice on a personal basis. I believe all of the shooter that day took something with them and at the end of the day I honestly believe he shot everything put in front of him, from personal to issued weapons. It would have been great to shoot a M1 with him but the opportunity never came up, hard to understand why my mom hated guns married to a shooter like my dad. You would have enjoyed shooting with him as well. Always something to learn.
Awesome! One thing though, your dad was in the 5th Marine Division (or 5th Mar Div), not the 5th Marines (which is shorthand for the 5th Marine Regiment, part of the 1st Marine Division) which was not at Iwo Jima.
@@ddog5842 well not being in the service I used the wrong nomenclature. My dad turned 18 shortly before landing on Iwo Jima. He was a tanker.
@@paulgreenlee190 what's your dad's name? This is super cool
I'm going to find out, I just recently received his military papers/history/records. I'd like to get it right anyway and I am a Junior.
I see that A1 in the background. A tease if I've ever seen one.
;)
I think they made a few interesting comments about "L sights" already in this vid. The video is already filmed.
Looks like XM16E1 to me. You can see the forward assist, partial magazine fence and 3-prong flash hider. I want to see this glorious piece of machinery in action.
Literal Chekhov's gun
Yep!
M1 garand pings when it’s empty
M14 pings every time it fires
And the ping supposedly gives the soldiers away... Assuming that the enemy doesn't have ringing ears.
@@DNchap1417 thats a myth. The gunshots before the ping is going to give you away before the ping will
do you have to wear earpro to listen to a garand ping?
god this myth is stupid lol
@@DNchap1417 The supposed problem was that it gave away when soldiers were reloading, which could be very important in close quarters. Lets you know when its a good idea to advance or stick your head out and shoot.
@@DNchap1417 stupid myth that you gullible people believe in
I think I was one of the last trainee groups in the U.S. Army (July 1969) to train with the M-14 during basic. The 7.62x51 (.308) round is highly effective and can be very very accurate in a good firearm. Sure, .223 ammo carries lighter, but the .308 hits like a sledgehammer. A fine battlefield weapon.
Ft Polk, LA 1969.
@@johndillard8588 Ft Lewis, WA. 1969 A nice cool summer.
@@davidmathews2124 : For AIT the Army shipped us to FT. Sam Houston, Texas. Learn about Texas heat.
@@johndillard8588 OK…weird. I started basic on 7/5/69 and then went to Ft Sam too…for basic medic’s training.
Fort Leonard Wood, for basic training. July - October 1969. Trained with the M14.
I also started dating WACs (while still in the 12th grade) at Fort Sam Houston from about October 1968 after getting a job as a bar back at the officers club, until I went active duty in the Army July 4, 1969.
I like to think of the M1a/M14 as the most modern, traditional rifle. It balances those two qualities unlike any other firearm out there.
I would argue that the original AR-10 is the most modern, traditional rifle.
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 m1a will outshoot the ar10 with iron sites. Nothing tops the garand and the m1a/m14 when it comes to iron sites
@@hoppinggnomethe4154 Could you elaborate on that? I think the AR10 was where the break in tradition from "lock, stock, and barrel" began.
Who else wants a tour of Henry's gun room?
It's full of antiquated and dated oddities - Josh (keeper of only the fastest wiz-bang blasters possible)
They're called "Classics". -Henry
I carried one in Viet Nam. I own one now. Anyone who has ever carried one for real has bound to have affection for it. I never felt like I did not have enough gun and it would still be my first choice going into harm's way.
My dad is a Vietnam veteran, he said he would take the M14 every time.
In your opinion, is the reliability as a combat rifle up to par? There's plenty of videos of people torture testing these things and they fail so quick but from me who's never been in a combat scenario I was curious if it would hold up because I love how accurate these are
@@GiveMeYoSammich I do not know where these stories about unreliability come from. No one during WW2 called the Garrand a piece of junk. The M14 uses the same basic action except better. I never heard a bad word about the rifle when I was in the army. Yes there are more modern rifles and rifles that are better suited for clearing rooms, but on the battlefield you would be hard pressed to do better.
@@robertmotley8990 I agree. Not sure who started this talk about M14 rifle unreliability. It has a thoroughly tested and combat proven action. The action is not all that different from an M1. With the possible exception of some jams due to ice frozen bolts in very, very extreme cold wet weather conditions in Northern Europe during WWII and Korea, that action was extremely reliable under all other conditions.
My father went threw basic with the M14 and used it in Korea on the DMZ in firefights. He loved the M14 and never mentioned anything but praise for the rifle. After being sent to Vietnam and given an M16, the only good things he had to say about it was you could carry more ammo.
The "ting" that Josh is hearing is the muzzle device resonating. Old AR-10s do that too.
Ahhh good point - the AAC "tuning fork" flash hiders make that same noise now that I'm hearing it again in the video.
@@9HoleReviews Great job btw, M14s have a high potential for precision and you showed it!
Yep, similar piece fitted & can hear it on Aussie SLR's. Would slip on the O-rings from waterproof match container to quieten that.
Funny thing is that I've heard M1 Carbines do that noise too. Like it's just something in the action that makes the sound.
Same with the strange 3 prong flash hider on the cugir mm10
Expecting fortunate son, mildly disappointed. Still, love your vids
yeah we couldn't find any non-copyrighted versions to play :(
I just went on an hour replay of Fortunate Son after this... then that “There’s Something Happening Here” song lmao
No Henry in the bathroom in the middle of the night, loading live rounds with a psycho smile.
If you are an impatient boomer who just came to see what we youngsters thought, fast forward to @6:40 and you'll be caught up.
I also must emphasize that we shot this rifle much slower than our usual "combat speed" so it wouldn't heat up and throw shots. Also thanks again to Brandon from the Gun Room!
It ain't too god damn boku.
@@9HoleReviews next video SVD Dragnov Dmr..... Next video M1903 Springfield sniper rifle 1100 yards... Next video kar98 vs M1903a4
@@drrandhawa5512 +1 on the M1903-A4 and the 1941 USMC Sniper
Hahahaha love it. Yall do an amazing job, thank you for doing this channel. It shows the literal practicality of a firearm, unlike all these other channels that stick to there 50-100yrd ranges and just dick around, and those other bafoons who want to just shoot 2000 meters with a rifle you would need to pay 4k for.
And this is exactly why I own the M14. Love that rifle.
I do too and I have 1 of my own and brother it's my favorite
Lucky you!👍🏻
BTW these are non restricted in Canada and as a result have a pretty devoted following, considering pretty much every other Cold War era firearm is either prohibited or restricted. Great video guys 👍🏻
Y’all can also get the Norinco clones for half the price of a SA M1A. Jealous
thgreatandini this was true up until the other week... that’s what happens when you have a Liberal government 🤢. I had the chance to compare a SA M1A and a Norinco version. It was pretty harsh
The recent ban in Canada sucks
I'll bet they are on the list to be restricted very soon.
thgreatandini I doubt the norinco could have pulled this off so well. That it if it functioned the whole way through. Just because something looks the same, doesn't mean it is. But if you just want something to screw around with, saving the cash can be worth it. So no offence personally.
I shoot Expert consistently with the M16A2, so when I was assigned an M21 later during Desert Storm, we set up a regular qualification range in Saudi Arabia and I shot Expert again with no problem. I'm a Marine, and we qualify to 500 yards with iron sights, so we guestimated some targets to 650 and 800 yards so I could use my optics on the M21 and only missed once. Our snipers trained to 1000 yards with the M40 (Remington 700), so not bad for a DMR rifle.
Loved that rifle so much I now own an accurized M1A... all mine!
Excellent weapon.
Semper Fi.
Same with me, I still remember the PI's instructions on how to memorize the clicks we needed at what range that would basically never change other than the windage and how to calculate a mechanical zero to reset back to after shooting at 500. Sights were similar to the M14/M1A if not better, and I do not see myself using an optic. I hated the ACOG when we went to M4's, I didn't mind the shorter size for close range engagements, but tunnel vision gets you killed close range so all you use is a front sight, and on 500 yards on the M4 was ridiculous amount of extra effort. I felt like the bullet drop was crazy, shooting way above the head to land a hit center, and 7.62 just does not drop that much.
@@brooktech7869 Yeah, I don't like the idea of the new M4's, and never shot with an ACOG. We all used the M16A2 when I was in unless you had a mission-specific weapon such as my M21, a SAW, or the M60. If I ever buy an AR, it will be the standard pattern with the carrying handle and the round forward handguard. I see no use for all that Picatinny all over the place and the ridiculous amount of crap they hang on the rifle.
Carbine length, a regular CAR-15 is also just fine with me.
But of course, I don't need anything other than my M1A, and for a pistol I carry a Ruger KP90 in 45 ACP... they don't make these anymore, so I'm lucky to own one.
M14 gang rise up...!
They can't rise up without grunting, and hearing popping noises from their knees.
Only thing rising is their blood sugar. lol
I'm an M14/M1A fan and I'm 23! LOL. I love mine and it shoots good.
Olympia gang
Loved the 14!!!! Trained with it in 65.
I did record fire in BCT with the M-14 in 1969.
I scored 99 out of 100 targets to capture top battalion shot and earn an expert rifle medal.
It was the sweetest shooting rifle I had ever fired. You caught the trick about the front sight too.
Like y'all shooting.
Back in the day (mid 1980s) I had to train on the M-14 as part of the ship's self defense force (destroyers don't normally carry Marines.) I was pretty good with it because I learned rifles on my Dad's deer rifle, Dad was a WWII Army vet. Dad's rifle was bolt action, so I fell in love with the '14 in semi-auto.
For some dumb reason one of the points we sometimes deployed an M-14 armed individual to was inside the hull, just outside of the ASROC magazine along with at least one other toting either a 1911 .45 or a 12 gauge shotgun. A 'long range' shot under those conditions was TEN YARDS MAX.
During a Security Alert drill I was one of the first two people armed at the small arms magazine and I had one of the M-14s, my 'partner' a .45 and because we were the first two armed and ready we were placed outside the magazine, considered the most critical point to be defended. During the drill our Command Duty Officer inspected us after we verified his identity. "Petty Officer, there are armed hostiles on the other side of that water tight door. To get where they are they've already killed a number of shipmates. What are you going to do?" (He was an asshole, making it up as he went.)
I took a knee, shouldered my weapon aimed at the door, at the sighthole about five feet above the deck. "Lieutenant, if one of them takes a look through that 'peephole' (thick glass, about 2" in diameter) I'll put a round through it and then fire through the closed door (aluminum less than 1/4" thick) to discourage them."
He looked at me like I was crazy. "I don't think you can punch through that door." My partner was a Gunners Mate who backed me up. "Sir, the .308 round from an M-14 WILL punch through aluminum thicker than that door. He might not actually hit that window, (at only 20 feet ... HAH!) but the round will go through the door and either kill or seriously wound whoever is on the other side."
Outstanding, Private Pyle. I think we finally found something that you do well.
I enlisted in the Army back in '68. Had the M14 all through boot camp except for one day with the M16. Both I qualified expert, and nailed the 500 yd target with ease. Went on to do 2 tours in Vietnam. Now, I can't hit my plate with a fork without my tri-focal glasses,lol.
Thanks for doing you part.
Thank you for your service and welcome home, sir.
Even though I have a huge soft spot for the M14, courtesy USMC, there's no doubt it was outdated when adopted, being essentially a first-generation gas rifle, and intended for outdated infantry doctrine; that of long-range aimed fire.
Well it would’ve been perfectly good if we were fighting in like Mongolia or South Africa (or Afghanstan for that matter lol) were you can see for miles In each direction, but in the dense jungles of Vietnam Fighting guys with AK-47s and submachineguns we might as well have brought muskets lol
@@edanridge3023We can just use M110
@@edanridge3023 The problem was is that it was designed for a war that never came. WWIII in Europe against the USSR.
@@AmericanWarrior1776 lol that was a problem on both sides, like I was listening to a podcast on the South African border war and the guy was talking about how a lot of the tanks and armor vehicles the ussr gave the mpla were built for European conditions and would break down or get bogged down in the landscape of Angola
@@edanridge3023 As an M1a owner, I have a lot of respect for the young Marines that humped M-14s and a combat load of ammo through the jungle of Vietnam. Those guys were some strong, tough MFers.
I barely was able to hold in my laughter in my library quiet office when the Full Metal Jacket clips started rolling. Excellent editing
One of simple joys is reaching out with my M1a. Even with a standard, all usgi rifle, accuracy is superb. The irons are a joy to use. If I can see it, I can hit it.
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Chris and I actually shot this rifle together prior to taking out to our range. He frequently used a single adjective to describe it.
9-Hole Reviews I expected nothing less
He hates its I think mostly for the story behind the ordnance core etc.
Jake H if he hates it so much why does he keep shooting it? I think he’s secretly in love with it. My god if you don’t like something move the fuck on, plenty more for us
Awesome to see that the M14 is able to reach out and touch someone when its in capable hands. Love the vids.👍
Ahhhh the most handsome rifle ever made IMHO. I am a cold war army veteran and always wanted to fire the m14. I qualified with a g3 though(nice) when in Germany.
I qualified with the m14 and 1911 while in the navy. Then moved onto the m16 in ranger bn. Would definitely take the 14 over the 16..RLTW
How can you be a Cold War veteran. Did you fight in Cuba or some shit? If you were in the army stationed in America and Japan during the Iraq war were u an Iraq war veteran? Or did you actually go to fuckin serbia or Russia on some covert ops shit
Arron Shaw, you are a fucking moron. Maybe you should Google ' Cold War' and get some smarts Caranialrectite.
This was the very first rifle I ever shot, back in 1975 i was a fresh recruit right out of the Naval Training Center, Great Lakes I’LL, Onboard my very first but of many ships. Never being able to afford a M-14 over the years, it and the 308 Win holds a special place in my heart. Fast forward 25 + years i bought a Savage model 10 bolt action in 308 Win, the love affair is still going hot and heavy.
Military was having a hard time in Afghanistan/Iraq with vast open spaces and the limitations of the M4 @ 300 yards.
... step in the good ole' 308.
They need ar10,g3s ,and slrs
Hype Tempo yeah they got an “AR-10” now, the reintroduction of the M14 was always just a stopgap due to there not being anything in inventory.
I believe it was crookedness by the jerks at Rock Island and Springfield Armories to keep their jobs. The trials were jury rigged to make sure the lesser weapon won the contract.
@@TempoMontages - SR25s got used plenty, which is Knights Armament's version of the large-frame AR. The Bundeswehr had DMs - designated marksmen - armed with heavily-modified G3s, and they worked fine as precision rifles. If the SLR made it over there, I don't know about it. Maybe someone else on this comment board does. The FN FAL was/is a great rifle, but it isn't known as being ideal for precision or sniper use. This is chiefly due to its clam-shell type receiver cover, which made mounting an optic and then getting it to retain zero a real problem. DSA, the U.S. company which makes a version of the rifle, which they call the SA58, did solve that problem eventually, but not until years after most FALs had been retired by militaries still using them. The British got as far as the famous SUIT - "Sight Unit, Infantry, Trilux" - which was a fixed power 4x, which mounted to the rear of the cover, but that was it.
The M14, in contrast, has been an excellent precision platform since its inception. The U.S. Army used it as their standard issue sniper weapon system in the Vietnam War, and the top scoring U.S. sniper of the war, Staff Sergeant Adelbert "Bert" Waldron, used an accurized and scoped M14 for his tour over there. There are certainly more modern alternatives available today but the old M14s dragged out of mothballs certainly did the job during the GWOT until the newer systems could get online and to the troops in the field.
The meme game is as strong as the range tests you running. Great job. :)
Can't wait for future videos.
I, for one, wouldn't mind these rifle videos being longer. Truly interested in what was said in the sped up parts.
M1A is awesome! There was no doubt when an impact was made. It moved the targets real good! Nice shooting, Henry!!
This episode could have used a Paul Harrell disclaimer about bearing with gunfire in the background. Somebody out there was putting in work.
1:10 I believe that is because the flash hider vibrates with each shot, doing a tuning fork sort of sound effect.
My M1A NM loves the Lithuanian surplus 7.62. I have had many groups of 1 MOA or a little less with the ammo it really amazed me.
Where can one pick up this Lithuanian Surplus? Sure appreciate a link or just a name. Have a great day
@@larryratliff4730 Here's a link that should get you started. www.classicfirearms.com/762x51-m80-gp11-147-grain-nato-ammo-640-can/
ecleveland1, try some Prvi Partisan in your M1A NM. Specifically, their 145-grain FMJ-BT. It's extremely reliable chow for your rifle. Thanks for the tip on Lithuanian surplus....
I have a standard model and it shoots Moa with IMI 168gr razorcore
Try the GGG match ammunition made there: 155-168-175-190 grains. Cheap and shoots great! I shoot it on the tactical and precision matches here in Germany and other countries.
I love the metallic ping the M14 makes every time you shoot it.
Even though the M16 was preferred, the M14 really is the epitome of a hard hitting battle rifle, that’s some freaking authority in your shoulder, damn I love the sound it makes
Almost as good as a BAR.
However for a CQB long gun I prefer my Benelli M4. That's the gun that's on my left shoulder when I walk through the jungle. Here in Florida you never know when you might surprise a wild boar that wants to cut your legs to pieces.
@@ladamyre1 they make socom 16s
Excellent work fella's! You make an excellent team that is awesome to hear the back and fourth banter. My number one go to channel fun to watch, excellent shooting and the conversations are more than helpful. Thanks for the awesome content and keep the top notch excellent content coming.
Love the m14 and the m1 both are beautiful rifles and a joy to shoot ! Great service rifles !
lol, nooooo.... the m14 was a terrible service rifle that took like 14 years of waste to develop, was the main service rifle for only 4 years, and was such a monumental screw up by the ordnance corps, it cause the us ordnance corps to never ever have the responsibility that did and the complete closure of the real Springfield ARmory.
@@556bc all that matters is that it is cool lol
@@556bc youre right in all aspects but its still a cool rifle
@@556bc And yet we hear nothing of other nations hesitation to semi-autos before WWII...we lagged behind the curve, so what? Still a servicable weapon system
"I dont need no teenage queen...
I just need my M14"
I really enjoy and have great appreciation for your videos. I don't particularly care to watch someone just shooting but your videos have a purpose and I enjoy seeing and comparing rifle accuracy in your hands for rifles that I have and ones I don't have and your commentary after the fact. I am a huge m1 garand fan and would enjoy seeing how far you could stretch accuracy out past the 500 yard mark. Very nice and entertaining job from both shooter and spotter, thank you.
That’s an interesting point about the thicker sight being used to favor. I have read the same thing, but this author used the NM front sight, which is 8 moa wide (aiming black on NRA/CMP is 6 moa). The the NM front sight, he said you could favor 1 moa left or right. The M16 NM front sight that I used for high power was 6 moa. Same for my”M110 service rifle” for NRA long range, but at 1000 yards the aiming black is 4.4 moa.
As an old marine, what your doing is a piece of cake. For us the 200 was shot offhand, standing from the shoulder, 300 sitting, and 500 from prone.
👍 I ❤ THE M1A-M14.....ONE OF MY FAVORITE.
Finally! open sights. great job. i learn a lot from the commentary. Thanks for the video.
I like 9 hole very much for their analyses on every rifle that they test. I have that same M1A and love it. Thanks Henry and Josh
In all my years in the Marines I never had any issues reaching out to the 500 with an M16A1 as you have in the back ground and an M16A2 using USGI issued ammo.
usmctien I qualified with 238 at Camp Hansen range in 1977. M16A1. Outstanding rifle. BTW, pulled the last M14 butts at Edson in 1973
@@davidlinihan3626 Nice shooting with the A1 Marines. the 1/11 twist on the A1 limited it's effective range, and since I was 10 years later I shot with the A2 which had a 1/7 twist, stabilizing the round a bit more. We only qualified out to 500y on the KD course, but it was effective up to 600y with the modification.
I qualified 7 times with it in Hawaii, 226, 236, 232, 242, 238, 225 (all 15 rounds in the standing position at 200y in the 1989 Pacific division match) and finally with a 246 at Kaneohe Bay. At the time it was the highest range score.
@@davidlinihan3626 Funny you mention Camp Hansen, I went out their shoot the M16A2 and we shot the same course as the marines. I was highly impress on the m16 & M855, but these where '6x4' & 6'x6' targets iirc back in the day.
We ( USAF ) did not shoot anywhere near as good as the USMC, but remember one branch is a chair force and the other are season ground combatants 😄
Of Course
I appreciate your reviews... I had a 10.5" 556 and I was ALL day ringing a 18" gong at 200yds with a 4/5 MOA $50 Bushnell red dot.
On a pistol.
For our ATF friends, I didn't even shoulder the tube. It was straight bench. 😙
Very nice and informative.I just purchased the M1A Scout in walnut. A beautiful Rifle and like you I always wanted one and at this point can also now afford it. Can't wait to shoot it.
Once again yall, great video. Great showcase for the M14
Awesome video! Still one of my favorite rifles.
When I was in the marine corps I shot three medals, marksman, sharpshooter and expert with M14..a beautiful rifle...Oohrah...
Good job Captain , love seeing these old rifles.
Always enjoy watching these videos especially when it's a rifle I've used in the Army...great shooting Boss.
I don't want no teenage queen,
.
I just want my M14.
.
If I die in the combat zone,
.
Box me up and ship me home.
Pin my medals upon my chest, tell my momma I done my best...🤘
My, but those lyrics have a familiar sound to them.
Been there, sang that!
Carried one of those heavy suckers a long way, great rifle, but I sure did love my Mattel special.
Sound off! 1, 2! Sound off! 3,4!
This M14 is beautiful, and the sound is music to my nose.
My m1a nm was built in the mid 80s and its a tack driver love it.
Love my M1A!
Love the "Full Metal Jacket" metaphors. Hilarious! The way Henry explains the reasoning behind his preference for a thicker front sight post, which give s him a quick hold reference to favor right or left on rifles, makes a lot of sense.
When it's all said and done, iron sights is where the rubber meets the road!!
Putting the lines and scenes in from ‘Full Metal Jacket’ Henry was brilliant, in the distraction of not trashing the M-14 publicly! Class man, just class.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️😂🤣
Excellent series! “Practical accuracy” = great concept!
Love my M1a in 6.5 creedmoor ☺️
I was in the transition from the M-14 to the M-16A1 in 1966! With the M-14 I could engage any target I could identify! With THE M- 16 A1 I usually was motivated to maneuver to close the range before firing! I still prefer the M-14!
The M-16A1 was introduced in early 1968. The M-14 was replaced by the XM-16E1 in 1967 to 1st and 3rd Marine Division line units.
@@fredmonahan3627 Probably got his years switched around
12 for 12 at 500 yds with iron sights at boot camp qual, Feb. 1967 ... four of them were in the spotter which was either 6 or 10 inches diameter if I remember correctly... loved that rifle but wouldn't have wanted to lug it and a couple hundred rds of ammo through a jungle all day ... I could hit silhouette targets with it at 750 yds with service ammo ... never had any match ammo to try ... I intend to remedy that soon, but now I will need optics and a rest, lol ... great video! Brings back memories ...
Loved the edits ...great work fellas
Would also love to see an SVD or PSL
I know the M14 has problems......but goddamn it looks beautiful 😭
Bought one of those M1As with the roller Bolt and Douglas NM Barrel in 1987 on sale for 729.00. Came with 3 magazines and a scope mount. It is a Superb shooter. Thanks for sharing.
He looks so natural and comfortable on that m14.
Christ Almighty Henry you have one brutally good eye lol.
Damn fine shooting and the Gunny is indeed looking on you all with approval from somewhere out there!
Thank you guys so much I've been waiting for this vid for about a year and loved every minute of it. I'm happy you went with the exact rifle I own to. Alot of hate for the rifle is right. I don't think it's the best rifle every made or anything 2-3 moa on a good day but I prefer it when choosing among it's peers the G3 type and the FAL type. And as a combat rifle it's all about the application. And it's a fine specimen the US rifle M14 and it ain't too damn bookoo
Gay ass flag you got there bud
@@billcutting1299 Said nobody ever. 👍🏻
I used to own a Springfield Armoury NM M14. I once won a Silver Medal shooting over 800 metres. Beautiful rifle.
This is the 3rd maybe 4th time I've watched (and enjoyed) this video. I've finally located a new M1a1 Loaded and had trained and qualified expert on the M14 version back in the 60's. I'm happy I've made the purchase for many reason but I realize it's the nostalgia things mostly. I am not going to let 2012 go by without taking it somewhere where the ranges are longer than here in Massachusetts. I know my 72 y/o eyes could be a problem but I'd truly like to do it with iron sites and not mount a scope. Just love the class of these rifles. I'll also bring my AR15 but totally get what you mean as far as range. They are quite different for sure.
Anyway..... I thank you for the video. It means a lot to me and great super cool shooting.
Do u know how awesome u guys would look in all your vids, if there was no wind. Good job showing how realistic accuracy. Not a edited 3 shot group with perfect conditions.
I have a CMP Garand and a Polytech M14s with GI surplus parts, I have to say between the two I prefer the smoother recoil impulse of the Garand
Doesn’t the M14 vent gas under the barrel?
know its old but you ever put a different bolt in the polytech? i just got a fulton armory bolt looking for a competent smith, dont want to ship my poly they are getting hard to find.
@@stevemc6010 - The M14/M1A uses a patented short-stroke gas piston system which is self-adjusting and needs no manual adjustment. The piston travels faster or slower in direction proportion to the gas pressure of the cartridge being fired. Once the gas tappet or piston reaches the exhaust vent, any excess gas pressure not needed to cycle the action is vented to the atmosphere. This feature is arguably the most-important upgrade of the design over its M-1 Garand parent, which had no such gas venting system. Whatever gas pressure the M-1 operating rod "sees," is what actuates the op-rod and in turn the action. That is why Garand rifles are somewhat sensitive to what kinds/types of 30-06 ammunition which can be shot from them (or 7.62x51 NATO, as the case may be).
In theory, the recoil impulse of the M-14/M1A ought to feel smoother than that of the M-1, but the Garand is a heavier rifle than the M1A/M14, which may also have a bearing on perceived recoil.
I was stationed at camp Lejeune, 2nd amtrac bn. I was picked to be a member of the rifle & pistol team in 1971. We shot small bore pistol & rifle and big bore pistol (1911 .45 ACP) and big bore rifle (M14). Never did much with the small bores or the 1911, but we kicked ass with the M14. Commanding General Marine Corps base got a 4' tall trophy when we beat all competitors from every branch of U.S. services. We shot at 200, 300 & 600 yd. targets with this weapon. It never let us down as long as we did our part. It was a sad day when these awesome battle rifles were sold or destroyed by then president Clinton. May he rot in hell.
That round hits so hard with a lot of force.
This video has brought out all the fudds.
Derogatory term for gun ppl that don't care about being tacticool? Seen AR guys using they term to talk about hunters....
Living in Montana, I'd take .308 over the 5.56
Trick question, 6.5,
-An Albertan
Out there you need it
Makes sense.
5.56 is a better urban/woods round
Same! Or 30-06.
@@WastelandArmorer old school!
Great video! Love it hate the M14, it’s very satisfying to hear those plates ring!
I qualified expert with a M-14 at Fort Ord in 1966, I loved that Rifle, I’d love to have one, but my 9130 Mosin in a blast.
Now that's a rifle 🤠👍🇺🇸
Can you guys make a video about the browning hi power? Btw great content as always.
Yousef Marzog I second that they are my favorite pistol I keep hoping MAC will put it through the gauntlet
There's a company out of turkey now making hi power copies....hear they are top notch.
I trained with the14 in Jun-Jul of 65 at Ft. Jackson. I loved that rifle. Sad when they gave me a 16 on the boat to sunny Viet Nam. I miss that rifle.
Good video. Love my Garand too.
Stationed at D-M AFB in the early 2000s; had a whole rack of M-14s collecting dust that we couldn’t touch because no one was qualified to use them.
4:20
"What did you do at 400?"
Could be a variety of things. Trigger pull, Kentucky windage, retina burn, hot chamber or even a combination of several of those.
@Mustang .308 I must have. It sounded like gibberish.
Shooter: "Left, and then it, I know.....".
Then he goes into the M1 sights and what he prefers.
@Mustang .308 It's all good. He is shooting some fine weapons. 1 thing that I disagree with him about though is about the thicker front sight post. I always liked the thinner ones. The thin ones made me focus on sight alignment more than the thick ones. Also, I wrapped my thumb a bit more around the stock, maybe because of where I placed the trigger on my index finger.
Anyway, Happy Plinkin' ;)
I giggled and snorted when you cut in the first clip from FMJ. lol. Loved it. Good run on the M14 as well. I have most of the examples of main US combat rifles going back over 100 years but i've been really slow to pick up an M14. It just doesn't do much for me. As you say you just like the Garand better. And so do I.
When I was in Marine Boot Camp in ‘68, we trained with the M-14. When I went to staging, before going to Nam, we trained with the M-16.
Dang, 2 impacts dead center at 500yds. Definitely a DMR rifle.
Christopher Rodriguez yeah he stacked the bullets on top of each other
You literally said designated marksman rifle rifle
Near dead centre.
It slides few millimetre.
The Father of the M-21, gents.
@@Anino_MakataIt is.
M-21 is the son of M-14.
“Too boku!!” LOL 😂
Nice Shooting Mr C.
I owned a TRW, 1963 era, M14 here in Holland. The real M14 is actually €1000,- cheaper than a M1A knock-off here. Installed NM sights, bought a new walnut M14 stock and glass bedded the action in it and won my first 600 meter match with. I loved my M14. Unit I found out that the AR15 was way more accurate and didn't need to rebuild every year to maintain its accuracy. Still have a soft spot for the M14 though
And who said that the M14 was impractical, not accurate, wow, that was impressive.
Never the problem with it. In fact it was main thing that the US was trying to achieve, at the expense of actual practicality and reliabiity.
I’d take that M-14 into combat any day.
Lol, whatever Pvt Pile. Everyone says that at first about the M14 until they have to lug one around for more than a week out in the Jungle. Sure it’s got that heavy round, so it has better penetration than an M16, she performs well as a marksman rifle and does well on the range. But that’s where the pros stop. Higher ups in the US army wanted to keep the M14 because they were convinced that the bigger round was the way to go, but they eventually relented when it became overwhelmingly apparent that the rifle was underperforming in every other aspect. End of the day she’s a fine target rifle, but she’s too heavy, she’s impossible to control on full auto and in humid conditions the wooden stocks would warp so badly the rifles were rendered useless.
No. 1 Gun channel on TH-cam as far as I'm concerned. Only channel where I wish the non shooting part is LONGER.
I fired that rifle in training at Ft Knox, Ft Ord and in combat in Vietnam. What a great weapon. I also fired the AR 14 at Ft Ord.
Thanks. This video really highlights the difference between shooters and tactifools. Just watched a review of another version of this platform where they complained they couldn't get consistent groups at 100 yards even with optics. Here you are dinging steel at 500 with iron sights. Their problem wasn't the platform.
I saw that same video John, you are very correct...it wasn't the platform.
watched the same vid dudes are tools lol
Someone once said "people who like the m14 don't know jack about m14"
Someone once said: "Donald Trump will never be elected President."
The"ping" you hear is the brass hitting the op rod, which is normal. Great video.
Some mighty fine shooting!
Oh how I love the M14, or my M1A,