Can You Be Fat and Fit?

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  • Can you be fit but fat?
    Obesity is strongly associated with all cause mortality, cardiovascular disease, and cancer (reference: [pubmed.ncbi.nl...](pubmed.ncbi.nl...) While there is some evidence that you can be 'fit and fat' insofar as you can be obese but still have healthy biomarkers (reference: [pubmed.ncbi.nl...](pubmed.ncbi.nl...) ) it appears that even when 'healthy obese' (obese people with healthy blood markers) are compared to healthy non-obese, there is still an increased risk for mortality, cancer, and cardiovascular disease (reference:[pubmed.ncbi.nl...](pubmed.ncbi.nl...)
    In this video I break down the current research and talk about why acknowledging this research isn't the same thing as fat shaming and why it's important for HAES and the fitness industry to stop talking past each other.
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  • @walterjriddle
    @walterjriddle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    I can confirm that during the process of losing weight going from 400# down to 250#; the mental, nurture, and emotional factor are spot on. As I become more fit my body and mind crave differently at different weights. I also feel education on the foods we eat are of the upmost importance. Thanks for another great educational segment.

    • @MsK594
      @MsK594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Listen to this man, edumacate yourselves PEOPLE.

    • @billybigballssteubing2243
      @billybigballssteubing2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MsK594 how come you didnt include yourself in that

    • @MsK594
      @MsK594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billybigballssteubing2243 Not sure what you are talking about here bro

    • @billybigballssteubing2243
      @billybigballssteubing2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MsK594 you said others need to listen to be educated. Are you as educated as Layne?

    • @MsK594
      @MsK594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@billybigballssteubing2243 Not in the slightest, I was just stating a fact, to learn from people like Lane. My question to you now, are you educated enough to ask smarter questions?

  • @robinc.9845
    @robinc.9845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I‘m 37 years old and fighting my whole life with Obesity. It has always be a struggle for me, before Covid and before i stopped smoking i had 253lbs (115kg) on the weight. In 2019 i stopped smoking and added another 11lbs (5kg), Covid with working from home another 15lbs, resulting in a fat blob me that had almost 280lbs (127kg) at a height of 5‘8 (179cm).
    That being said, i started cardio and lifting weights in Oct. Last year, only brought me to 270lbs but since march i changed my nutrition and my daily fluid intake and boom, I‘m down to 191lbs (87kg) and in the shape of my life.
    So, in the end, it was my fault, although i tend to obesity, i always knew that but was to lazy… go get it folks, genetics is no excuse!

    • @MatthiasAI
      @MatthiasAI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats amazing bro, keep that fire in your soul lit!
      That covid weight is no joke, I wasnt lucky enough to have a work from home job so I sat there and did literally nothing for 18 months gaining just over 70lbs.. Pre covid even when i forced myself to eat more i could never really get higher then 225-230lbs, but post covid I was sitting at 305ish lbs. Now that I have work again for a few months and getting back egging myself back into the gym.. It just not as easy as it use2 be the heavier you are.
      More props to you on your health journey, I just get to your level sooner then later. Happly down to 250lbs just another 40 to go! :'( hehe

    • @skybirdnomad
      @skybirdnomad ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats, thats definitely an accomplishment. If you don't mind me asking, what aspect of your nutrition did you change? And what about daily fluid intake? E.g. did you replace soda with water or diet soda?

    • @falkowski83
      @falkowski83 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a note: 179cm is 5'10 and 1/2. I hope you're still doing well!

  • @jimmagwojo2718
    @jimmagwojo2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    A very careful and nuanced presentation of a complex and at times emotional topic. Well done Layne

  • @skyekingdom0
    @skyekingdom0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I’m threatened by Layne’s biceps

    • @zero_to_ramy
      @zero_to_ramy ปีที่แล้ว

      His delts are intimidated by those biceps lol

  • @cameronnicholson1980
    @cameronnicholson1980 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude, love the way you break this down, I come from a traumatic childhood, however like you said its personal responsibility. Took me a while to learn unfortunately no one was going to save you in the past and they certainly ain't coming now. Harsh but true, education is critical. With education you learn personal responsibility. They go hand in hand.
    BRAVO!

  • @lasmatte3447
    @lasmatte3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    When I die, I hope I wake up in “average physique” heaven.

  • @barfy362
    @barfy362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You have an average physique and you can just go anywhere and people look like you.

  • @teresahunt5521
    @teresahunt5521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I've worked in the medical field for 32 years. I've never seen a morbidly obese person make it to 90 years of age.

    • @MsK594
      @MsK594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      True, but i saw lots 100+ years walking sticks :))

    • @SSchithFoo
      @SSchithFoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's because you didn't look hard enough

    • @socaranectien1933
      @socaranectien1933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why anyone would want to live that long anyway with how your body is barely working by then, I will never know

    • @billybigballssteubing2243
      @billybigballssteubing2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SSchithFoo not like they're good at hide and seek

    • @resamiller66
      @resamiller66 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My mom made it to 89 and she was diabetic but she died from congestive heart failure. If she had been healthy she might have still been with me 6 years later.

  • @danaso2567
    @danaso2567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Like it, a moderate perspective, honestly. We seem to fully operate on extremes these days and we love shaming, we shame people for being fat, we shame them for losing weight, for what they eat, for what they don't eat. The only thing this is going to cause is more depression. I have gained weight(not obese though) and I can definately tell you it has made a difference in my quality of life and health(shown by tests and how I feel) without being shamed by anybody. So if you are overweight and feel good, more power to you, I however, am not as healthy as I used to be.

  • @johnbrown2030
    @johnbrown2030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The audio / video and graphical has been upped a few notches lately , great video Layne !

  • @olympic-gradelurker
    @olympic-gradelurker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I just wish my appetite matched my calorie expenditure.

    • @miloice74
      @miloice74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It boils down to food choices. We cannot change our genetics but eating high volume low calorie food will let u stay satiated with less calories. This is a fact. The same reason why obesity is a global crisis. The food industry comes up high calorie dense food that are so addictive, drives your appetite up and does not keep u satiated for long. The science is clear. The appetite satiate mechanism that our body is bypassed much with the sugary drinks and junk.

    • @jamescorsey6041
      @jamescorsey6041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mines too

    • @ZeRo-yc7zf
      @ZeRo-yc7zf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but we’re talking about food intake over a long period of time, not how much you could eat in one meal. You might not feel the same effects, but eating low-fat can make you more hungry and stressed. High volume foods will help you of course but at the end of the day you gotta have some degree of discipline

    • @miloice74
      @miloice74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZeRo-yc7zf how is having correct food choices not a form of discipline? The fact is no one needs to go hungry all day to lose and keep weight off. Its the bs that food industry tells us.... they dont tell us.... appetite is driven by the junk they are selling us.
      Why do we even need to avoid fat. If our food choice is generally low calorie, it can have all the fat and carbs. There is no evil in any marco. Its how calorie dense and satiate it is that matters to how much we need to fill satisfied. Why does one need to be on low fat? You can do keto all fat. Its still the calories that matters.
      Its of course not one meal.... talk to people with weight issues.... many have bad food choices. Its not an occasional junk meal but on a regular basis.

  • @gautreaux
    @gautreaux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fantastic video, Layne! IMHO you've found perfect delivery balance. Your humor is on point. Your presentation of facts is on point. And the conclusions drawn are insightful and nuanced. It all shows us how complex this whole topic is. Thanks, bro!

  • @marcoz4684
    @marcoz4684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you shit and shat? - with enough protein powder and some lactose intolerance, im here to confirm you can!

  • @FatShadow56
    @FatShadow56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I fit the “Fit-Fat” description to a T. Bloodwork is perfect. But I still have a solid 30lbs I need to get rid off, and it would be disingenuous for me or anyone else in a similar condition to argue they I wouldnt be even more “fit” without that 30lbs.

  • @Storyteller2078
    @Storyteller2078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m 5'7" 167lbs, so I’m overweight and I do have quite a bit of fat. But I also have a LOT of muscle, and have been working out consistently for nine months. 5 days a week for 20 minutes plus outdoor activity such as badminton and lots of walking. I eat roughly 1900-2500 calories a day, but, admittedly, way too much sugar. I know I could be far healthier, but am I fit?? Oh, and I’m 17 years old (female).

  • @Carl007Jr
    @Carl007Jr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the best video on obesity I've seen. I was in the 180s in middle school (13-14 years old) and did wrestling and American football for 6 years through middle school and high school, and did fairly well. In high school I was a heavyweight wrestler who would go from 215 to "unlimited". I got diagnosed with a spinal autoimmune disorder in my 20s and my activity dropped significantly in my 20s, putting on a ton of weight. Fast Forward to 2022, and in addition to my 5 day tech job, workout high intensity 3 times a week, I work Fridays and Saturdays on a ranch and Sunday I do high intensity outdoor tactical training, heavy and obese but as active and feeling as great as I did in high school, being able to run, jump, sprint, and even wrestle/grapple again. I was 300lb in early August this year, and through low carb CICO and some water fasting, I'm down to 279. Feel great with only a very slight headache atm on water fasting. My goal for this first weight loss sprint is 260, then I'll go to a balanced diet for holiday season, then back to a hard weight loss push in January. I appreciate your channel man, I'd been through a lot of either charlatans or misinformation folks and I'm glad I'm here now.

  • @nicoleallen3079
    @nicoleallen3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love how the nurture and nature are brought into the conversation a lot more. My stepmom is a geneticist. Both my biological parents are both really tall (mom 5’11”, dad 6’1”) but on the bigger side. I’m 5’1”, so eating the way they eat isn’t realistic. That’s what my stepmom taught me. It’s a very nuanced conversation. Thanks so much for being you.

  • @omg_wtf
    @omg_wtf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm currently about 20kg overweight. I can still row a 6:52 2K time and have an FTP of 268.
    I'd be way better if I was back at my normal weight though

  • @likemysnopp
    @likemysnopp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would make the argument that the food that is available matters a ton more. From both living in america (for about 3 months) and visiting america I can without a doubt say that there is no fucking way I ever become skinny in america. The food there is 100% made to make you fat no matter what food it is. And the amount of damn fast food, sweets and all sorts of shit literally everywhere you go. Im baffled. Here you will have a hard time finding a damn hot dog stand. No wonder we dont have an obesity problem here. We literally cant eat fat food! Would be interesting if you did a video on how food changed after the 1960s tbh

  • @dietcurt
    @dietcurt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    This is literally exactly what I needed to head after having an argument with a friend who has bought into the HAES movement.

    • @amymarieca
      @amymarieca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I used to be totally into that movement. It caused me to get up to 250lbs on a 5’3” frame. I thought all I had to do was ‘love’ myself for who I am, when really what I needed to do to care for myself was proper nutrition and exercise. I now weigh 165lbs 😁😁😁

    • @dietcurt
      @dietcurt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@amymarieca congrats on the weight loss! That shows an awesome amount of dedication! Keep it up!

    • @ateyaba7253
      @ateyaba7253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@amymarieca Congratulations!
      “ I thought I had to love myself for who I am when really what I needed to do was care for myself”
      That’s some really good words, if you really do love yourself, you take care of yourself. Again, Congratulations 🎉

    • @amymarieca
      @amymarieca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ateyaba7253 thank you so much! 😁

    • @Magic_beans_
      @Magic_beans_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Depends on their take though. Health At Every Size came from a book of the same title by Dr. Lindo Bacon. Its thesis was that physicians should encourage good habits rather than focus on the achievement of a target weight as a goal in and of itself. That makes a lot of sense to me: focus on what you can control, progress over perfection, all that stuff. As I’m sure you know though, things tend to mutate once they get popular, and HAES got twisted into “self improvement is self hatred.”

  • @mariasagar9529
    @mariasagar9529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A skinny person trapped in a fat person’s body? 😮😂

  • @jessicagaro1857
    @jessicagaro1857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I study Economic Sciences for university. The same sort of ideas occur in societies from an economic perspective. The outcomes of society are mostly explained by behaviors. Sure, there are some autonomous events that happen and can change outcomes. It still comes down to behavior.

    • @felipetejeda7545
      @felipetejeda7545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kind of a nebulous explanation, everything is caused via behavior lol

    • @liblib89
      @liblib89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a useless degree

  • @snippyJ
    @snippyJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think you can be "fat and Fit". I think you can be fat and "relatively healthy". To me, there's a difference. Just because your numbers are ok as far as bloodwork and whatnot now doesn't mean your high BMI isn't going to wreak havoc on you later... and I, myself, am struggling to get back into the normal range and out of the overweight range again because I let my depression get to me again.

  • @La_sagne
    @La_sagne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think bmi is horrible because i train once a week (sometimes i manage 2), i eat well and i manage to be muscular enough that in combination with my naturally wide shoulders and my 98th percentile circumference head im obese according to bmi.. obese people dont have a (slightly) visible six pack.

  • @willstith1
    @willstith1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow this is quality all around especially the understanding of the different reasons that cause obesity in our society. Subbed.

  • @kingscroach
    @kingscroach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is fat and then there is obese... I've been fat all my life and I have great health, I also have no problem working my butt off and jogging miles a day. I've never been obese tho. Genetics make a big difference for sure, I've eaten nothing but 3 eggs and 2 slices of bread for years and still gain weight while still staying relatively active. Not staying physically active can be very detrimental, the length of activity also makes a difference as it takes time for it to have an effect, like it taking many years to get marginally reduced effects from smoking for years. Of course there are genetic disorders that cause people to gain weight easily, but it's rare. Good video.

  • @PrimalPetersen
    @PrimalPetersen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm 38. I have a body weight of 95kg, lean mass is 80kg. BMI says I'm obese. Bodyfat is higher than I'd like. However, I train strength & metcons 4-5 times a week and yoga 1-2 times a week. Although my times for Crossfit WODs are not "elite", I RX everything and would be close to competitive at a Regional level. I'm fit a fuck, but yes, I could be fitter.

  • @objectivistathlete
    @objectivistathlete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Fit and fat: some powerlifters, strongmen, strength athletes, etc.
    Just fat: most people who claim they're fit and fat.

    • @True38
      @True38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More like strong and fat depending on their weight. Anything that is above the ideal BMI (18.5 to 24.9) cannot be considered to be fit.

    • @artofant
      @artofant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@True38 haha NOT true. BMI is just a height to weight ratio. You could be very tall and thin but have very little muscle mass, low bone density and high fat percentage and be considered at a healthy BMI. Whereas if you are shorter but have high muscle density and relatively low body fat but be considered obese according to BMI.

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Powerlifters and strongmen aren't fat. They are just not extremely lean.
      Your attitude is precisely the problem. You think the absence of the "shredded" look is the same as being dangerously obese

    • @True38
      @True38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artofant The point is, there's no such thing as being fit while being fat. I even remember Layne talking about a guy on stage back in the day that was making excessive water excuses for looking bad on stage, whereas Layne was like; No, you're just fat.

    • @True38
      @True38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrCmon113 No, I don't and you are clearly making assumptions. Powerlifters and strongmen are usually not lean at all. Perhaps you should do some Google searches of Powerlifters and strongmen and see for yourself.

  • @stophi2581
    @stophi2581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think, that there a people, just a bear of a man - if you see the data, maybe obese, but just a big man, with strong bone-structure, of course some fat, but not only at the stomach. not an endurance athlet, but strong as hell. got me ? i think that this men could be seen as fit and healthy. those men skinny look just sick. isn´t it so that some people got more fat-cells from genetics ? i´m not sure about that. just what i´m thinking.

  • @twiseguy2772
    @twiseguy2772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:27 Best part (Not that I'm overweight)👍🏻

  • @DrMo-89
    @DrMo-89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Dr. Layne ever leaves youtube and I no longer have access to his scientific GEMS and phenomenal work ... It would be THE END OF THE WORLD for me ... ur a lifesaver

  • @siddhantkumarjena8911
    @siddhantkumarjena8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Layne I highly respect you but here you are being mistaken. I can cite legit studies which shows that lean people who don't fluctuate their fat mass have a way more sustainable lifestyle ( in terms of calories input and expedentiture) than people to did yo yo dieting. It's quite common sense that sustainability is important factor of long term wight/fat loss. But saying that people can't lose weight because of genetics is absolutely idiotic. They are the lazy a**holes who didn't want to put in work and anybody who is a bit fit and active than th they say that they take steroids. This is the cheap mentality of this generation. That pisses me a lot.
    I will say that it is absolutely their fault because at this point (2021) so much information on sustainable lifestyle changes is available that anyone can be fit. It is they who don't want and blame on genetics. You might disagree but it is fact.

    • @biolayne1
      @biolayne1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not sure you actually watched the video

    • @siddhantkumarjena8911
      @siddhantkumarjena8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@biolayne1 I actually watched it. My only question was that you said that there is a genetic component which describes how much obese can a person be. I look it from other end that genetics defined how lean you can be for longer periods without drastic change in your lifestyle habits.
      Now if only genetics determined fatloss then energy conservation in general will be invalid. Man genetics only determine the point where can you sustain a healthy bodyfat percentage. Now if I use ultra sound to determine body composition healthy bodyfat percentage(for males) should lie somewhere in between 16-20%.Dont say that obese people maintain these levels of bodyfat.
      My question was with this type information available on internet how can you not make sustainable lifestyle changes and say it's genetics( which don't govern the starting point of your weightloss)
      Man the reason I said because if someone in my country asks me who should I refer to get quality information on nutrition I generally recommend your and some other channels.
      If you think I offended you then I am sorry no intentions were like that and I can take my comment down also. 👍👍👍

  • @Bjorn_R
    @Bjorn_R 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A very simple addition to make the BMI a more precise estimate, is to add waistline measurements. That will help clarify what of kind 300Lbs dude we are dealing with :)

    • @billybigballssteubing2243
      @billybigballssteubing2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dont attack bubble gut like that

    • @sunnygirl9691
      @sunnygirl9691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That doesn’t work for all female weight distribution. Also I think it’s pretty clear when someone is 300 lbs they are 99% certainly obese. Rare exceptions are body builders who still can face stress to their systems.

    • @itsmederek1
      @itsmederek1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sunnygirl9691 k thanks for this useless comment

    • @sunnygirl9691
      @sunnygirl9691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@itsmederek1 I added that because a lot of discussion on weight, fitness, etc forget the differences between males and females. Everything I said is correct. Apparently that’s not your thing. ✌️

    • @mortenlarsen7220
      @mortenlarsen7220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sunnygirl9691 If you are 300 pounds fat or muscle your body is still working over time, and if your jacked 300 pounds you are most likely using PEDS.

  • @ThomasAT86
    @ThomasAT86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I get a feeling that weight management challenges are similar to chronic disease and depression in the sense of it likely putting you into a downward spiral that makes it even harder. Coming from the chronic disease and mental health issues corner, examples are (probably not so uncommon for folks with weight management challenges): misdiagnoses, traumatic experiences with doctors, lack of proper education, lack of proper health care, loss of work and finances and security, inability to maintain social contacts, being surrounded by people that are also sick (like facebook groups, rehab,...) and so on.
    People in this position need help, support, love, guidance, role-models and not hate or being laughed at and tyrants, with the latter often times making things much, much worse. This I found to be important not only in order to support a person in their journey of change if they decide to do so, but also to just be more of a decent human being, alpha, mature, whatever you wanna call it. That being said, I think glorification and celebration of such chronic states of dis-ease or being different (just to be different) is likely an unhealthy swing into the very opposite direction compared to the tyranny place.
    Much love,
    Thomas

  • @serisingh
    @serisingh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A lot of female fitness influencers seem to hover between 16-20% body fat. What does the scientific literature say about hormonal health, athletic performance, and longevity for women with body fat in this lower range?

  • @xSHATiN
    @xSHATiN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its 💯 your fault if you’re obese. Been obese, not morbidly but obese. No one was to blame but me. I chose to eat better and be active and the weight was lost.

  • @caitlin8349
    @caitlin8349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t know why people find this so difficult to understand

  • @brokenrekord8358
    @brokenrekord8358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I weigh 400 pounds and I don't feel obese

  • @brandonteeling3037
    @brandonteeling3037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who’s lean at around 12-15% body fat, but enjoys food like an obese person, learning about CICO and the caloric value of foods and activities and recipes from Greg Doucette have made it so much easier.

  • @beekermaya
    @beekermaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for pointing out the complexities of weight so succinctly :)

  • @305Lfx
    @305Lfx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Short answer.. yes.. the cardiovascular system can be absolutely fine and even powerful even with a high body fat mass.
    Examples: wwe wrestler samoa Joe.
    Martial artist sammo hung.
    These people are fat.. I mean a weight 300lbs plus. But these guys have conditioning for days. They combine intense cardio training with an obvious caloric surplus .. alas its the type of calories they consume that adds fat. As opposed to the clean bulk . Its obviously not advisable to be that big .. I was a fat guy once upon a time. . I know the dangers. But it is perfectly feasible to have an athletic ability but being fat

  • @tradelikezach
    @tradelikezach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think people are too concerned with lifespan and not paying enough attention to life quality. If you smoked your entire life and died at 90 but always coughing and short of breath with gross teeth and nails, that is not ideal.

  • @FelixRosas10
    @FelixRosas10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a Drill Instructor in Marine basic, dude was fat. No way around it, he had almost a beer gut, but the dude was a TANK with rockets equipped. He knocked out nearly 30 pull-ups like it wasn’t shit and ran a sub 20 minute 3 mile but he looked like a fucking rhino. I looked up to him 💪🏽

    • @MrCmon113
      @MrCmon113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is he fat if he only "almost" has a beer gut?

  • @richardpinegar6568
    @richardpinegar6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to blame people, laziness, poor diet choices.... and then I turned 30

  • @jutublizard
    @jutublizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are

  • @One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All
    @One-Ring-To-Rule-Them-All ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can influence a lot despite all the factors stuck against you!! My family are all overweight (not obese though) and I was getting "plump" as a teenager and then I decided to do something about it and I actually made my family eat more healthy food. I am the only one who exercises and I am lean my whole life. I try all the time to make my family (and frankly everybody else) start exercising, but they are really resistant. Exercise is the way! Find something you love - for me it is rock and mountain climbing - but it could be anything for you! ❤

  • @feudist
    @feudist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Take a shot every time he says “however “....

  • @jamesr3616
    @jamesr3616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What’s the leanest you can be and It still be healthy?

    • @OJA-jf7bp
      @OJA-jf7bp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard 15-20% but that was from a bodybuilder so I'm not sure of that's relative to the average person.

    • @karlinggard
      @karlinggard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Depends on the person. If you have good amounts of energy and you're not constantly feeling hunger, you're not unhealthily lean. Can be as low as 5%bf for some people, can be as high as 20%bf for others.

    • @Hamburgler6.9
      @Hamburgler6.9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@karlinggard dead on. It depends on your genetics. You gotta find out for yourself by getting as lean as possible. Once you feel like shit, you've gone too far; turn back and see where you feel good again.

  • @Agent77X
    @Agent77X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely! Fat and fit!

  • @MsMalta2010
    @MsMalta2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent video all around. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @simranbiryani3068
    @simranbiryani3068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fedor Emelianenko has entered the chat.

  • @Prog47
    @Prog47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you be tall and short?

  • @Jackman77100
    @Jackman77100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is muscle mass always a positive? if you had 10 less pounds of muscle would you be more or less healthy?

  • @mariusfredriksen3295
    @mariusfredriksen3295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Again, great information! About 3 years ago I was about 15 kg heavier than i am now. Always been a little too big. Then, i suddenly got very motivated to shred off some fat and lost 15 kg. I didn´t change anything of my training. Even though i felt healthy and never had been injured before, I definitely feel better and more healthy after the weight loss!

  • @kw2537
    @kw2537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feelings aren't facts?!?!?!? Time to cancel Layne.

  • @christinac512
    @christinac512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My BMI says I’m
    Over weight lol but I think the fat is in my butt. Because people tell me I’m skinny, fat is just stored in my chest and butt.

  • @blahasdirtysock3657
    @blahasdirtysock3657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nuance is great and factual is as close to truth as we can get. Unfortunately we live in an age where nuance and fact are not appreciated because they don’t advance in group agendas.

  • @twiseguy2772
    @twiseguy2772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Layne does a great job of explaining that Obesity can't be canceled out with exercise. But one contention I have is that he doesn't mention simply being overweight. I know being overweight can put you at health risks like obesity, but there is also some evidence that you can be overweight and still healthy, without necessarily being obese. 🤔

  • @FronteirWolf
    @FronteirWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My parents are both overweight/obese, but at least in my Dad's case that's due to overeating, and my Mum was skinny until she had me and my brother. I hope I'm one of the 20% who don't follow in their parents footsteps in terms of weight.

  • @FourCorners257
    @FourCorners257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always informative!

  • @mrinchantube
    @mrinchantube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its literally so evil that pizza hut ads are placed on this video just because they know people who would watch something like this are the most vulnerable and easiest to target :/
    a lot of becoming healthier is to do with psychology honestly... so all that trauma stuff is real and media just makes it worse, the battle against a food addiction or recovery from something like anorexia is going to be hard but it can start to feel easy when you stop letting negative influences affect u and adopt positive mindset :) and then it becomes upward spiral

  • @BigRon092
    @BigRon092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fitness is the capacity to do work. If someone is obese and works hard, walks, and lifts regularly, great. I've seen guys like this. But as they age, it catches up to them too soon.

  • @OperationEndGame
    @OperationEndGame 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible that muscle mass drops while musculoskeletal rate increases? The reason why I ask because I notice that when I use a digital scale to see my daily progress… I’m 44, 5’5”, 15.6% body fat (21.2 bmi)… i noticed my muscle mass dropped from 101.2 lbs to 100.8 lbs, but msk rate (musculoskeletal) went from 54% to 54.3% in two days….Not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing. Thanks.

  • @moniquelapperre3227
    @moniquelapperre3227 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, let's start by saying I'm a big fan of your content. But I can't help feeling that you're not telling the whole story. The thing is, becoming obese is easy. Losing weight is also easy. It's keeping the weight off that's hard. For that, you have to become an athlete like yourself. You have to fight hunger as the body fights back, track meals, weigh in every day, and eat less and exercise more than a naturally lean person of the same weight needs to do to maintain their weight. That's a lot to ask of people. If you read the studies even the people that manage to keep the weight of tell that that they often feel very tired and lonely and that the process is stressfull and time consuming. And they have to get everything right all the time. If anything happens in life, like a divorce, a sick child, a parent passing away, or any curveball life throws at them, they might slip, and the weight will come back. And if the weight comes back all the selfblame and stigma comes back too. That's so frustrating. I'm a nutritionist who has helped people lose weight for years, but now I'm asking myself if focussing on weight loss is still the ethical way to go. If only the 5-20% of people that get it all right manage to keep the weight of is it still good advice? Is' t the price too high? What's your opinion on this?

  • @LaMichiganR
    @LaMichiganR ปีที่แล้ว

    *I honestly love lifting and walking and I eat really good, but I will tell you after my thyroid was removed when I was 27 yo and it is so hard to lose weight.*
    *My Dr says I am healthy, except for my weight.* *HUMPHF!

  • @buffkangaroodog
    @buffkangaroodog ปีที่แล้ว

    I think another consideration is that you don’t have to be obese to be fat. Obese is only BMI but if you have a 30 or 35% body fat, no you’re not healthy. 20-25 is still overweight, but I don’t think it poses all that much of a risk to your health (well maybe 25 but not 20). I think the main idea is that many people define health by your weight or body fat, when there’s so much more to it

  • @RMILLSMMA
    @RMILLSMMA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fedor ... arguably had the best cardio in any heavyweight fighter ever... technically obese with a pretty high body fat level. As always good points and a measured answer by my favorite TH-cam nutrition dude. 👍🏻

  • @philschiavone101
    @philschiavone101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about using BMI and height to waist ratio. Couldn’t we find a way to approximate visceral fat vs. fat that is just under the skin. I gain visceral fat easily. But I have known people that have mostly subcutaneous fat and they have an easier time with healthy outcomes than I do. Once my waist gets over 34 inches, my triglycerides and cholesterol is off the charts. Let’s not even talk about blood pressure. When my waist is under 34”, then all my numbers are better. Weight itself does not matter as much for me. I work on loosing visceral fat loss.

  • @medeatigger9199
    @medeatigger9199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty refreshing point of view. Still you didn't adress the one thing, that makes the big question out there: where is the line, that determines whether one is obese. Because yes, if you have 300kg, it's obvious. But still, they are people who are naturally bigger, let's say a woman that is 175cm and 85kg. Of course she can diet it down to a lower number, but this is her natural range - and for that she is called "imperfect" or "unhealthy" all the time.

  • @whitecreek
    @whitecreek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic display of information. Not easy to properly structure such a subject so you say exactly what you mean. Great job 👍👍👍👍

  • @xBx3xAxSxT
    @xBx3xAxSxT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iv been binge watching your videos Layne, and one thing iv noticed is how many videos you have that have an identical, (and I mean exact opinion) of Greg Douchette’s view on the topics you discuss. You guys are extremely similar in your views. I think it would be a waste to not do a collaboration together. In your 100s of videos the only one I can see a disagreement on is training to failure.

  • @ThatsTheWun
    @ThatsTheWun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can be fat and run a marathon. Doesn’t mean your healthy
    I see plenty of skinny crackheads with ripped six packs who out run the police - then they die of organ failure
    Fat can be fit! Look at Andy Ruiz when he beat Anthony Joshua to win the boxing heavy weight title!
    Is it healthy? Lol

  • @True38
    @True38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're either fat or you're fit. How is fat person fit? That doesn't even make sense.

  • @kissablequeer
    @kissablequeer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is one of the best videos you’ve made (that I’ve seen). The thoughtfulness in the way you expressed the topic is appreciated, and I really hope this video takes off with the TH-cam algorithm. As with all things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. Well done!

  • @bryanhugh8905
    @bryanhugh8905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got here from your interviews with coach Greg. Haven't seen too many of the vids but I'm really digging the info so far 🤘

  • @clintpurches2765
    @clintpurches2765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn’t the title be Can You Be Fat and Healthy? Fit is a different thing, there’s plenty of overweight international rugby players who are considered obese but are very fit.

  • @noelfrancisnunez5729
    @noelfrancisnunez5729 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My BMI says im obese but i do kettlebell workouts and boxing workouts average of 15mins 3x per week hehe exercise is the saving grace for all of us go do it to the best of ur ability and be happy

  • @tykjpelk
    @tykjpelk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is is possible to look like Kyriakos Grizzly without accepting some excess bodyfat though? Sometimes beauty standards and health don't go hand in hand and you need to make a choice.

  • @nicklam66
    @nicklam66 ปีที่แล้ว

    Depends on what kind of fat. Visceral deadly , subcutaneous not so much

  • @RWHITE3
    @RWHITE3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this. Love, love, love. So nice to hear someone blowing the cobwebs off of actual facts for once

  • @GreyException
    @GreyException ปีที่แล้ว

    This man navigated a social minefield with empathy and no-bullshit data. That is impressive!

  • @andrettax6052
    @andrettax6052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. what about people that are lean and do not exercise and people who are obese and exercise regularly? You covered everything else but it. It is not a negative criticism, your channek is my favorite on the fitness sphere.

  • @Bejkomut
    @Bejkomut ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're fat and don't wanna lose weight you probably don't even know Layne so if he's 'selling' anything related to diet it doens't mean he's forcing anyone to lose weight. He's here for us who want to diet.

  • @chewher4171
    @chewher4171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I freaking knew it!! I’m a shredded person stuck in this fat body. I identify as a gym bro. I need to hop on the sauce and I will magically get shredded and buff right? (Sarcasm)

  • @vincentfoster6811
    @vincentfoster6811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fat and healthy?!?

  • @FitFutureMD
    @FitFutureMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even Lean Body mass can cause more work for the heart. Jacked and Shredded are just as bad as morbidly obese health wise. Increased weight and being heavy while exercising will cause Joint Damage as well. Say no to Extremes and yes to Health. Stay Fit Forever!

  • @BaldyMacbeard
    @BaldyMacbeard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't there a whole sport around that? I think it's called Powerlifting or sth...

  • @proteinioutlet6218
    @proteinioutlet6218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said.

  • @GuidetteExpert
    @GuidetteExpert 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    People that go trough trauma and eat to much use it as a coping mechanism or drugs.
    If they had no way to cope with their trauma there is more likely they would commit suicide.
    Food is easy to approach and I rather blame the policy makers that dont put rules on company's that try to make their food as addicting as possible.

  • @brookesmith1550
    @brookesmith1550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No!!! Fat is the opposite of fit!!!! If someone was fit then you would just say fit! 🙄🙄🙄

  • @shynessbreakthroughcommuni826
    @shynessbreakthroughcommuni826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Due to the pandemic, I think I consider myself fat & fit (from all the weight I gained this past year)

  • @credibility63
    @credibility63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We all know people who art obese, not morbidly, but way over weight, who exercise and are fit. Yes if they shed twenty five percent of their body weight their performance would improve hugely. We all also know people who are of average build who don't exercise at all and can't run for a bus. Who's fitter? But lets be honest most obese people don't train, can't run and can barely walk. Let's not use the exceptions to try to prove the rule.

  • @mickeychan2223
    @mickeychan2223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so, all the instagram active overweight celebrities who telling us " fat can be healthy too !" is somehow encouraging us to stop making ourselves more healthy?

  • @drmarctagon
    @drmarctagon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fitness is relative and obesity exists in a spectrum so in some cases, yes. In some cases, no.

  • @thefitlessinfluencer9771
    @thefitlessinfluencer9771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the great video:)

  • @ashleydawson4057
    @ashleydawson4057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I’ve always really appreciated your balanced, agnostic approach to this. There are a lot of fitness influencers out there fat shaming and trying to undermine the body positivity movement under the guise of ‘helping people’

  • @ubervin
    @ubervin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Body shaming is the only way forward in America.

  • @pelado9293
    @pelado9293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only one person has acchieved that: Tyson Fury

  • @maximusmcfire
    @maximusmcfire ปีที่แล้ว

    Excessive weight also damages joints

  • @sydfreypenaco1328
    @sydfreypenaco1328 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video doc. Very on point. For the algo! 😊