1. Style of play (too many 3's) 2. Marketing of young stars and teams (LeBron and Steph are close to retirement) 3. Perception (players don't care anymore)
BLM logos on shirts and the court , players taking a knee, Steve Kerr and Popovich political rants , LeBron at the diddy parties. Couldn’t be any of that right
@ blm in the NBA was after the NBA's initial ratings decline if im not mistaken. Lebron and the whole 'diddy party' nonsense is far too new and most fans won't stop watching the NBA in it's entirety because of one player and his extracurricular choices. Players taking a knee had minimal impact. The issue with the NBA is lack of future star power, marketability and the game itself turned into a three point contest. The NFL has FAR more political issues than the NBA and they have remained just as popular as they have been. I hear your points but I don't think those issues are large enough.
Nobody ever says people don’t have cable like that anymore . Nobody knows where to watch the games . I’m nyc of don’t have cable with msg or Fubo you can’t watch games ..
Problem solved: push the 3 pt line further out. This will stop non shooters from taking 3s they have no business taking and bring back the mid range game. Adam Silver is making this too complicated. Oh and the analytics will agree with players not shooting 3s so much bc the %s will really change if the line is pushed 3 to 4 feet out
It’s the players. Playing 82 games and taking the regular season serious was a badge of honor in the 80-00’s. Michael Jordan took a game in Utah in November serious as he would in June. Players simply don’t care. It’s about their brand and their outfit.
Been watching hockey for as long as I been watching the NBA and NFL and its probably by far the most exciting low scoring sport across all major sports
@@Yuh0847shoot a damn mid range and attack at the basket. He shouldn’t be shooting more than 3 threes a game. He’s not even that great at them to be taking so many. He’s not KAT or dirk
Players are making too much money to care about truly winning, ads are out of control, flops are out of control, refs out here giving ball boys and players who point out something spilled on the court techs, play reviews take two hours to complete, everyone shooting threes, no defense, players should keep their passports on them with all the traveling that’s done, final scores be 172-155, all star weekend is boring, just to name a few things yet people keep wondering why ratings keep going down.
30 points is nothing in the g league when it comes to getting in the league. You have to be killing on a consistent bases. Great that he’s making a push now.
All you need to do is push the 3 pt line further out and that will (1) stop non shooters from attempting 3 pt shots they have no business taking and (2) bring back the mid range game bc spacing will open up on the court. Problem solved. Not that difficult. But Adam Silver and the suits want make this thing so complicated
@ just means teams would have to play more man to man and not zone. I hated zone defense in the nba anyway. It could still work. Just have to work on the defensive side of the ball. The main point is the analytics would change where it doesn’t make sense to shoot so many 3s. That’s making these games dull to watch on tv. The game would be more interesting with guys having to use a mid range and back to the basket offense like the 80s and 90s. And you could still see high scores bc back those days guys still scored a lot of points bc the shot %s were higher. Bottom line I would push the 3 pt line back than considering a 4 pt shot that Adam Silver is considering which getting to the point of pure ridiculousness
Too many 3s messing up the game. And players like Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Jason Williams and nick van exel don’t exist. There’s no creativity even with passing anymore. Kyrie really the last of them
rule changes like taking out the continuation rule, took out the and ones, why drive to the basket if you are not getting a chance to make the basket and a chance for the extra foul shot, they do not call traveling , the replay rules are crazy , they can call fouls that were not called initially....Anthony Edwards shooting hella threes. I want to see antman dunk on nikkuhs, Wemby is just a remix of Kristap Porzingis who wants to see a 7 5 jumpshooter trying to use Jamal Crawfords moves, thats crazy
Problem with nba is the woke shit. People don’t wanna hear about politics, we watch ball to get away from it. You got coaches like Steve Kerr & greg pop complaining about Trump we don’t wanna hear it.
30 points is nothing in the g league when it comes to getting in the league. You have to be killing on a consistent basis. Great that he’s making a push now.
And money is the issue. Cause if you getting money, you don’t care about the game after that. No one wants to be a basketball player. They want to make money and do everything except be a basketball player.
We say this but when a player like JA gets chippy. Then mfs be saying he needs to be humbled. Or the classic when a championship first before you talk! 🤷🏿♂️
THE SPORT HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY CAPITALISM ..... the entire game has been changed to cater to scoring because they deduced that fans like 'scoring' more than anything .... there has also been a 'race to the bottom' in terms of actual players ... the NBA went from an 'above the rim, dunk league' to MONEY BALL CITY all 3 pointers ..... here's the issue, THE PLAYERS ARE TOO TALENTED, we're not watching anything unique, we are watching players perfect skills that have already been determined make for a successful player, and EVERYONE is optimal playing size, height, speed etc! It's really not the players fault and FIGHTING doesn't fix the issues! The fighting era of basketball was unwatchable as well, it was from Magic/Bird Isaiah era to Lebron's first 10 years in the league that are the BEST years of NBA .... players had roles, players had positions, everyone wasn't 7 foot shooting 3's It's not going back, so watch what you like and turn off what you don't!
Most of this comment is inaccurate because the players are not better hoopers. They’re just faster and jump higher. They aren’t as skilled as players of the last that had to rely on skill to outdo the phenoms. But yeah, the nba is cooked.
@ NAH, the players NOW are perfecting already proven to be BEST PRACTICES … they are making choices based on analytics …. NO ONE is unvetted before they get big minutes on a team! They might not be better ‘hoopers’, but they are better BASKETBALL PLAYERS And off the court they are a lower liability
Another perspective: People forget the rest of media, that the nba have to compete against for viewership. If it was an in-game thing such as 3s, space etc etc, don’t people think the nba would correct that easily by changing the rules. The internet helped the nba grow and created more competition at the same time.
EXACTLY! These New Dudes Are SOFT. That's Why AE Sounded Crazy Wit That BS. & KG Cleared That Shit By Saying Most Of These New Dudes Couldn't Play In The 80s & 90s. Jordan Rules & Hack A Shaq Were REAL. F$%& That Soft Shit.
Yall blame Steph when that is Steph’s style. He’s not very athletic or big. His style that he had to developmade him a champion. Ask yourself why are players far more physically gifted just chucking up 3’s? This ain’t on him.
@Iamhimbutyouarenot a different team wins in the NBA every year. The west is stronger than ever. The NFL literally has Patrick Mahomes winning every year.
Wokeness destroyed the NBA - ask budlight. You want one side to watch and insult the other and now you have your crowd , 50% of the people you cater to are watching. BLM logos on warm up shirts, BLM logos on the court, players taking a knee, Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich political rants rants in press conferences, LeBron boasting about diddy parties . .. none of this could be the reason right . ?!
People with NBA. People like this don't watch basketball they watch a few teams. Then start talking about the NBA. NFL people that talk football actually know there is more than a few teams. Great example. The highest value team is the cowboys in NFL. But they don't win everyday and don't need to for it to be successful. Highest value teams in NBA are not in the picture. No one is watching. The NBA needs to be modeled after the NFL. On top of that it needs to bring back the defence and less 3 pointers shooting.
Look at the attendance and profitability. The sport went woke, and that's the facts. At least Roger got on his business hat and made attempts to fix the NFL from the disaster they were in. Diva ass players and protesters.
1. Style of play (too many 3's)
2. Marketing of young stars and teams (LeBron and Steph are close to retirement)
3. Perception (players don't care anymore)
Marketing the younger players will be worse. It’s a game for women now.
dont forget the refs handing out techs for anything and everythingh
kanye tried to warn y’all about adam silver and how “they” move…that man has taken away the nba’s soul 😒
BLM logos on shirts and the court , players taking a knee, Steve Kerr and Popovich political rants , LeBron at the diddy parties. Couldn’t be any of that right
@@TheDreadknoxxwtf that got to do with basketball?
@ my point exactly
@ blm in the NBA was after the NBA's initial ratings decline if im not mistaken. Lebron and the whole 'diddy party' nonsense is far too new and most fans won't stop watching the NBA in it's entirety because of one player and his extracurricular choices. Players taking a knee had minimal impact. The issue with the NBA is lack of future star power, marketability and the game itself turned into a three point contest. The NFL has FAR more political issues than the NBA and they have remained just as popular as they have been. I hear your points but I don't think those issues are large enough.
Did this man think Ben Wallace was a sixer 😂😂
Nobody ever says people don’t have cable like that anymore . Nobody knows where to watch the games . I’m nyc of don’t have cable with msg or Fubo you can’t watch games ..
Very True & A Well Informed Take. 👏🏾
Exactly, I love basketball, ima watch either way… if I can find the damn games!!! 🤬
You could still watch knicks game on the msg app but that shit expensive. Like $300 for the whole season
Problem solved: push the 3 pt line further out. This will stop non shooters from taking 3s they have no business taking and bring back the mid range game. Adam Silver is making this too complicated. Oh and the analytics will agree with players not shooting 3s so much bc the %s will really change if the line is pushed 3 to 4 feet out
It’s the players. Playing 82 games and taking the regular season serious was a badge of honor in the 80-00’s. Michael Jordan took a game in Utah in November serious as he would in June. Players simply don’t care. It’s about their brand and their outfit.
if you want to see oldskool competitive sports....just watch hockey man. trust me. let's go blues!!
NBA is trash
Been watching hockey for as long as I been watching the NBA and NFL and its probably by far the most exciting low scoring sport across all major sports
To Adam Silver: eliminate the 3 point line and force teams to play basketball.
Victor Wembanyama is shooting threes is all you need to know about todays NBA
This sounds silly because other bigs shot threes in the early 2000s. Divac, Stojaković, etc. So it really comes down to how good these players are.
Terrible example lmao hes lanky asf u expect him to post up?
@@Yuh0847shoot a damn mid range and attack at the basket. He shouldn’t be shooting more than 3 threes a game. He’s not even that great at them to be taking so many. He’s not KAT or dirk
@@TheIcemanthomas he def got the skillset to. And i agree he shd do a midrange game similar to dirk or kd
The best and most simple explanation I have read.
Hate when these Dudes talk about topics outside of their realm or what they know about… Solid Podcast when they speak to what they know 💯
Bro he shot 20x to get 30 thats NOT shooting good
Flip dont know shit about ball😂
Players are making too much money to care about truly winning, ads are out of control, flops are out of control, refs out here giving ball boys and players who point out something spilled on the court techs, play reviews take two hours to complete, everyone shooting threes, no defense, players should keep their passports on them with all the traveling that’s done, final scores be 172-155, all star weekend is boring, just to name a few things yet people keep wondering why ratings keep going down.
They shouldn’t do play reviews at all unless maybe in the final 2-3 min of the game
1000%.
30 points is nothing in the g league when it comes to getting in the league. You have to be killing on a consistent bases. Great that he’s making a push now.
All you need to do is push the 3 pt line further out and that will (1) stop non shooters from attempting 3 pt shots they have no business taking and (2) bring back the mid range game bc spacing will open up on the court. Problem solved. Not that difficult. But Adam Silver and the suits want make this thing so complicated
Moving the line be farther will make defense much worse bud. Thas too much room for offensive players to operate. Y’all don’t be thinking.
@ just means teams would have to play more man to man and not zone. I hated zone defense in the nba anyway. It could still work. Just have to work on the defensive side of the ball. The main point is the analytics would change where it doesn’t make sense to shoot so many 3s. That’s making these games dull to watch on tv. The game would be more interesting with guys having to use a mid range and back to the basket offense like the 80s and 90s. And you could still see high scores bc back those days guys still scored a lot of points bc the shot %s were higher. Bottom line I would push the 3 pt line back than considering a 4 pt shot that Adam Silver is considering which getting to the point of pure ridiculousness
Basketball has been metagamed to death. It happens to all games eventually.
LeBron played 22 years and they’re trying to pin the lack of a replacement face on him. Madness. He should be a non factor right now.
I haven't watched the all-star game since the late 90's early 2000's. 4:17
Last one I watched was the one in Denver YEARS ago.
Vegas and gambling ads=corruption
No Hawks games on tv. Cut Philly off.
Too many 3s messing up the game. And players like Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Jason Williams and nick van exel don’t exist. There’s no creativity even with passing anymore. Kyrie really the last of them
rule changes like taking out the continuation rule, took out the and ones, why drive to the basket if you are not getting a chance to make the basket and a chance for the extra foul shot, they do not call traveling , the replay rules are crazy , they can call fouls that were not called initially....Anthony Edwards shooting hella threes. I want to see antman dunk on nikkuhs, Wemby is just a remix of Kristap Porzingis who wants to see a 7 5 jumpshooter trying to use Jamal Crawfords moves, thats crazy
where joe at?
So Ice puts on a blue hat and he’s in charge 😂
Problem with nba is the woke shit. People don’t wanna hear about politics, we watch ball to get away from it. You got coaches like Steve Kerr & greg pop complaining about Trump we don’t wanna hear it.
Stop shooting threes
30 pts in the G League is what we are celebrating now? GTFOH 😂
He is a 55th pick.
30 points is nothing in the g league when it comes to getting in the league. You have to be killing on a consistent basis. Great that he’s making a push now.
Nah that's a false g league is actually a competitive league that's a false claim
@ your agreeing with my point. That’s what I’m saying. The players there are killers. You have to really be killing it to make it up.
They play too much AAU ball...bigs think they are guards
And money is the issue. Cause if you getting money, you don’t care about the game after that. No one wants to be a basketball player. They want to make money and do everything except be a basketball player.
They get paid entirely to much
Everyone plays the same
We say this but when a player like JA gets chippy. Then mfs be saying he needs to be humbled. Or the classic when a championship first before you talk! 🤷🏿♂️
Bronny 30 points in the g league 🥱 1:17
Blake and Jordan with the clipper “lob city” was the end of the game we loved….
First one here ✅
- also not a fan of the new all star game format. The money focus has shifted the entertainment focus of the sport, unfortunately.
Too much euro ball ...in attempt to whiten the game up they changed the rules to reduce defensive effort.
THE SPORT HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY CAPITALISM ..... the entire game has been changed to cater to scoring because they deduced that fans like 'scoring' more than anything .... there has also been a 'race to the bottom' in terms of actual players ... the NBA went from an 'above the rim, dunk league' to MONEY BALL CITY all 3 pointers .....
here's the issue, THE PLAYERS ARE TOO TALENTED, we're not watching anything unique, we are watching players perfect skills that have already been determined make for a successful player, and EVERYONE is optimal playing size, height, speed etc!
It's really not the players fault and FIGHTING doesn't fix the issues! The fighting era of basketball was unwatchable as well, it was from Magic/Bird Isaiah era to Lebron's first 10 years in the league that are the BEST years of NBA .... players had roles, players had positions, everyone wasn't 7 foot shooting 3's
It's not going back, so watch what you like and turn off what you don't!
Most of this comment is inaccurate because the players are not better hoopers. They’re just faster and jump higher. They aren’t as skilled as players of the last that had to rely on skill to outdo the phenoms.
But yeah, the nba is cooked.
@ NAH, the players NOW are perfecting already proven to be BEST PRACTICES … they are making choices based on analytics …. NO ONE is unvetted before they get big minutes on a team!
They might not be better ‘hoopers’, but they are better BASKETBALL PLAYERS
And off the court they are a lower liability
The league is soft now as well. Players can't even talk trash without getting a foul.
Parks look like he can hoop...is he related to Cherokee Parks???
no true position, no physicality, drive and kick for Three, excessive traveling…. For me ‘80s, ‘90s, ‘00s were best times
Another perspective: People forget the rest of media, that the nba have to compete against for viewership. If it was an in-game thing such as 3s, space etc etc, don’t people think the nba would correct that easily by changing the rules.
The internet helped the nba grow and created more competition at the same time.
Nah.
Too many youngsters coming in every year, it's tough to keep up and keep track plus the format changes suck
Love your vibe, this is so refreshing. Keep it up!
🤖🤖
This is so awesome, never get tired of watching your posts.
🤖🤖
No offense but the influx of overseas players make it less exciting as well
Overseas basketball is actually better to watch than the NBA. Fans bring a soccer mentality to every match. NBA fans sit down until the 4th quarter.
EXACTLY! These New Dudes Are SOFT. That's Why AE Sounded Crazy Wit That BS. & KG Cleared That Shit By Saying Most Of These New Dudes Couldn't Play In The 80s & 90s. Jordan Rules & Hack A Shaq Were REAL. F$%& That Soft Shit.
If you grew up on 90s basketball this new style of play don’t hit
Ish talks like drake yo. Lol
Man I don’t like Flip
The refs is what’s wrong
The refs NOT shooting 50 3pointers
UFC > NBA
It’s not the game itself ,it’s literally the hardest sport to consistently watch and possibly hardest Accessible U.S. sport
its easier to find a basketball hoop vs a football field..
JBP hoodies are wack
Steph curry messed the game up. No one wants to see a bunch of 3 pointers
It’s not steph. It’s everybody wanted someone like him on the team and he not that good no more
Yall blame Steph when that is Steph’s style. He’s not very athletic or big. His style that he had to developmade him a champion. Ask yourself why are players far more physically gifted just chucking up 3’s? This ain’t on him.
I’ll take that over them old dudes in dribbling the ball with two hands in them short shorts
The nfl is "soft" now but ratings is still up. The NBA is lacking star power. Simple
Wait until you realize that ratings aren’t accurate either. And this isn’t about the nfl. The nfl is still competitive and compelling. The nba is NOT.
@Iamhimbutyouarenot a different team wins in the NBA every year. The west is stronger than ever. The NFL literally has Patrick Mahomes winning every year.
Nobody wants to see NBA players shoot wack 3 pointers all day
That Michael Jordan, shawn Kemp, shaq era we use to is over. These 🥷 soft and the game play different. They got centers shooting 3's😂😂
Another ass take from the cast
Wokeness destroyed the NBA - ask budlight. You want one side to watch and insult the other and now you have your crowd , 50% of the people you cater to are watching. BLM logos on warm up shirts, BLM logos on the court, players taking a knee, Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich political rants rants in press conferences, LeBron boasting about diddy parties . .. none of this could be the reason right . ?!
🤖🤖
@@ArchangelsBeatsbots reply to comments 😂 aiight look the other and watch the league change or fail
@@TheDreadknoxx you turned this topic into a discussion about "wokeness" 🙄 🤖
@@ArchangelsBeats I provided a reason for the NBA failing . You’re sitting there wondering why your vote didn’t count bruh. 😂 hopefully you wake up
@TheDreadknoxx no idea what my vote has to do with jacking up 3s but go off 🙄
Imagine if they had promotion and relegation?
Are you proud? 😩
In the 80s the scoring was at 116 points a game these dudes don't know basketball
Bonny James is taking a lot of shots, and the other team is not playing much defense.
That’s Stephs whole game
If you don't watch the NBA till playoffs smack that like.
People with NBA. People like this don't watch basketball they watch a few teams. Then start talking about the NBA. NFL people that talk football actually know there is more than a few teams.
Great example. The highest value team is the cowboys in NFL. But they don't win everyday and don't need to for it to be successful. Highest value teams in NBA are not in the picture. No one is watching.
The NBA needs to be modeled after the NFL. On top of that it needs to bring back the defence and less 3 pointers shooting.
Sounds nice but it’ll never happen.
Look at the attendance and profitability. The sport went woke, and that's the facts. At least Roger got on his business hat and made attempts to fix the NFL from the disaster they were in. Diva ass players and protesters.
Steph curry and James harden , Steve kur and Mike Dantony are to blame
THEY KILT THEMSELVES WITH ALL THE WOKE BS..JUST PLAY BASLETBALL!! WE ARE SICK OF Y'ALL BS! DONT FORCE BS DOWN OUR THROATS,WE JUST WANNA WATCH SPORTS!!
AND LEBRON KILT THE WHOLE NBA LEGITIMACY WITH BRONNY JR!!!FK LEBRON HE RUINED THE LAKERS !!!
They get paid entirely to much
They get paid entirely to much