@18:12 Mac's the Brains. Dennis is the Looks, Frank's the Muscle, and Charlie's the Wildcard. That's how the A-Team did it. That's how Scoopy-Doo did it. And, that's how the Ghost Busters did it!
Regarding Charlie getting rewarded for stealing Frank's money, I always looked at it as commentary on how white collar crimes are treated vs how crimes like possession of drugs (Dennis and Dee's crime) are treated. They are now forced into Charlie's job which this episode makes clear is "slave" labor much like many privatized prisions in America. Charlie meanwhile is told that his crime shows leadership because we often value these business men who commit unethical and illegal activities. Their crimes while they can have more victims then someone with a drug addiction are viewed as not as immoral. And they often just get promoted by people that value the same thing as them. The difference between Mac and Charlie is that Charlie has wealth to begin with (inherited wealth). Mac doesn't. So, while they commit the same crime, Mac does not get rewarded. He is viewed negatively. But Charlie, the already wealthy guy, is viewed positively. Thats how i view it anyway.
Another angle to this commentary is how none of them wants to do the work of running the bar and the justifications they use to get out of it. As the owner, Frank delegates all the work to others; Dee and Dennis go on welfare, and Mac and Charlie become managers exploiting people in a worse situation than themselves. And the government winds up subsidizing everyone. But, only some of The Gang are viewed as freeloaders.
One thing to consider: Whenever a character all of a sudden seems to have grown a conscience out of nowhere, it's important not to just take them at their word, and think about what selfish reason might ACTUALLY be fueling their disagreement that they're merely conveniently using the moral position as an excuse to complain about it. And sometimes it's also just hollow lip-service until it actually affects them.
They’ve talked on the podcast about how the gang is always behind the times in the show. IE the video camera.. digital recording has been around for a while and they still have the shoulder mounted tape recorder
One of the great things about the show is that the gang has few to no true convictions or principles. But they all tend to get fixated and self-righteous over particular issues. As a result, any one of them can be the straight man or "moral compass" when necessary.
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the title of the episode is typically the punchline to the cold open. Not required, but if you are able to not see the episide title before you watch it, 👍👍👍 it makes it that much better.
the funny part of this. . dennis wouldnt be eligible for unemployement as far as i know, because he was an owner. . Dee might have been eligible if she was getting paid on the books, ,which i doubt
They both quit for no good reason (like hostile work environment, etc). Usually for unemployment you have to be either laid off or fired - but not due to negligence or breaking company rules. (at least in my state) But hey, the episode is hilarious! Rule of Funny.
No, Frank isn't going to care about theft in business. Frank ran sweatshops in Vietnam; he's not worried about ethics because being ethical isn't how he got rich. He'd totally see a lack of ethics as management potential.
I would look into work for welfare programs, there's pretty good research that they're not effective and can actually do some harms. It's a complex topic and I'm not sure there's an easy answer.
It feels like you guys still aren’t really grasping that the show is about a group of horrible people. Throw logic out the window. Throw empathy out the window. Throw morality out the window.
If you're bothered by a word like "slaves," then you might not be able to finish this show. It's not for woke people with a weak sense of humor. My wife is Slavic where the word slaves come from and it doesn't bother her.
nope, you just think it is ironic because you live in a bubble, you are obsessed with media and dumb actors, and just like them you don't know much about the rest of the world; they are not even "the original slaves" which is your point, it is the origin of the word for a particular language family, a word an concept that existed for a long time in other older languages
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Your second hand embarrassment is why I will continue to watch this show with you guys 😂
@18:12 Mac's the Brains. Dennis is the Looks, Frank's the Muscle, and Charlie's the Wildcard. That's how the A-Team did it. That's how Scoopy-Doo did it. And, that's how the Ghost Busters did it!
Haha love this.
Your paragon is all wrong
that thing you did, I see it.
WILDCARD BITCHESS
But Charlie's the only member of the Gang that fulfills his role 110%.
Regarding Charlie getting rewarded for stealing Frank's money, I always looked at it as commentary on how white collar crimes are treated vs how crimes like possession of drugs (Dennis and Dee's crime) are treated. They are now forced into Charlie's job which this episode makes clear is "slave" labor much like many privatized prisions in America. Charlie meanwhile is told that his crime shows leadership because we often value these business men who commit unethical and illegal activities. Their crimes while they can have more victims then someone with a drug addiction are viewed as not as immoral. And they often just get promoted by people that value the same thing as them. The difference between Mac and Charlie is that Charlie has wealth to begin with (inherited wealth). Mac doesn't. So, while they commit the same crime, Mac does not get rewarded. He is viewed negatively. But Charlie, the already wealthy guy, is viewed positively. Thats how i view it anyway.
I actually really love this theory haha. Such a great angle.
Another angle to this commentary is how none of them wants to do the work of running the bar and the justifications they use to get out of it. As the owner, Frank delegates all the work to others; Dee and Dennis go on welfare, and Mac and Charlie become managers exploiting people in a worse situation than themselves. And the government winds up subsidizing everyone. But, only some of The Gang are viewed as freeloaders.
Classic sunny
You want to know how they got the bar in the first place? You’ll need to wait another 13 seasons to find out.
haha we're in it for the long haul.
One thing to consider: Whenever a character all of a sudden seems to have grown a conscience out of nowhere, it's important not to just take them at their word, and think about what selfish reason might ACTUALLY be fueling their disagreement that they're merely conveniently using the moral position as an excuse to complain about it.
And sometimes it's also just hollow lip-service until it actually affects them.
Haha this is a great point. Well keep that in mind moving forward!
They’ve talked on the podcast about how the gang is always behind the times in the show. IE the video camera.. digital recording has been around for a while and they still have the shoulder mounted tape recorder
Such a simple detail, but it adds so much haha.
*"I'm Good Go Get Us Some Slaves"*
Since no one has told you yet. A vig is interest on a loan
Ahh, thank you!
One of the great things about the show is that the gang has few to no true convictions or principles. But they all tend to get fixated and self-righteous over particular issues. As a result, any one of them can be the straight man or "moral compass" when necessary.
"Did someone get addicted to crack?!" *makes crybaby faces*
😂😂
Next episode is one of the best in the series
Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the title of the episode is typically the punchline to the cold open. Not required, but if you are able to not see the episide title before you watch it, 👍👍👍 it makes it that much better.
haha it's been mentioned once or twice. In the later episodes you actually see us looking away from the screen before we start haha.
OV-HO!!
😂😂😂
At 12:52 you can see Dennis break character 😅
So good!
the funny part of this. . dennis wouldnt be eligible for unemployement as far as i know, because he was an owner. . Dee might have been eligible if she was getting paid on the books, ,which i doubt
They both quit for no good reason (like hostile work environment, etc). Usually for unemployment you have to be either laid off or fired - but not due to negligence or breaking company rules. (at least in my state) But hey, the episode is hilarious! Rule of Funny.
No, Frank isn't going to care about theft in business. Frank ran sweatshops in Vietnam; he's not worried about ethics because being ethical isn't how he got rich. He'd totally see a lack of ethics as management potential.
haha that's fair.
the show gets a lot funnier when you realize they are all horrible people
We need Sunny double drops!!!
Working our way towards that! Haha soooooon 👀
Core values sunny
I would look into work for welfare programs, there's pretty good research that they're not effective and can actually do some harms. It's a complex topic and I'm not sure there's an easy answer.
That's fair. I know it's definitely a hot button issue for some.
Ah yeah
It feels like you guys still aren’t really grasping that the show is about a group of horrible people. Throw logic out the window. Throw empathy out the window. Throw morality out the window.
If you're bothered by a word like "slaves," then you might not be able to finish this show. It's not for woke people with a weak sense of humor. My wife is Slavic where the word slaves come from and it doesn't bother her.
Looking at your channel it seems like you guys are a bit overloaded with the amount of shows you’re watching at once. Maybe focus on sunny…
Definitely working towards a more frequent schedule. Give us a bit of time to get ahead! We'll get there, I promise haha.
The irony is the origin of the word slave.
nope, you just think it is ironic because you live in a bubble, you are obsessed with media and dumb actors, and just like them you don't know much about the rest of the world; they are not even "the original slaves" which is your point, it is the origin of the word for a particular language family, a word an concept that existed for a long time in other older languages
OV-HOEEEEEE lol