Also, thanks for the explanation between LT tires for smaller rim sizes! I was wondering about that since I usually buy LT’s but really want to try the LTX. The Ram has 20” wheels, going to try these out.
THANK YOU!!! Exact same use with my new 2018 Tundra. Would like bigger tire, but really want good MPG, and Tow an RV. Overlanding will equip in once this Tundra isn't primary truck.
I noticed you said you rotate every 10k miles. I’ve always heard 5k miles. You seem like a guy that makes very informed decisions. Is there a specific reason or reasons you rotate every 10k miles instead of 5k miles?
Hi, I keep hearing the Michelin LTX MS tire has been discontinued. Are you able to verify that? If so, do you know why it was discontinued? Someone told me the LTX MS2 is replacing it. Thoughts on that tire vs the LTX MS original? TIA
About to get a set of 275/55/R20 on my F150 for $263 each. Had to really talk my heart out of Nitto Ridge Grapplers for $303 each as they look nice and aggressive. But since I cannot see them from the drivers seat, might as well go with the best tire.
Enjoy your videos. I have the same truck and looking at these tires. When towing your trailer, do you inflate your tires to maximum pressure? My tire guy and my camper repair guy tell me to always run at least 48 pounds in the rear when towing. My camper is about 5,800 pounds. Thanks!
Did you mention what PSI you run with these? May have missed it in the video. Trying to decide between 30/33 cold or 35 all around on the set I had installed today on my 2010 Limited with the 275/55/R20s.
I have these tires on my Silverado. Had them about 2 years and not showing much tread wear. Better than the Bridgestones (factory tires ) they replaced, imo.
Had Cooper Dicoverer A/T years ago on my Ram 1500. They were very good, but didn't last 50k miles. Replaced with Michelin Defenders and never looked back
I just bought these exact tires and my truck rides more like a car now. I hope they can handle snowy wet roads. Got tired of burning through noisy, gas eating AT tires every 40k miles or 2 years. I laugh when I see guys in brand new trucks with lift kits and oversized aggressive looking AT tires. What a waste of money to look cool and dominant.
The reviews I've watched says you should be good,let me know,im getting a set for my Sequoia 275-65-18 on BLACK FRIDAY NOVEMBER 25TH,Walmart has them now for $256 which isnt bad but im trying to get them even cheaper...
Just bought a set of the LTX M/S 121R E1s for 17" wheels on my Ram. The Good Year AT Adventure with Kevlar's that came with the truck (upgraded from the crappy Good Years) lasted 65,000 miles. Little disappointing. They really haven't performed well the last few years. Hoping these will be the tires I will be sticking with for the rest of the life of the truck. All the reviews I've seen here and elsewhere say these are great, and can last for up to 100,000 miles. Crossing my fingers on these.
Thanks for the review, got a set of 275/65/R18 E rated 10 ply tires, will see how it handles compared to the stock Michelin that came with the SR5 CM TRD Offroad
@@kedrevs4037 it's a keeper, it's a bit bouncy over bumpy roads and potholes due to the stiffer side walls but also helps dampen swaying. New tire pressure set to 34 psi F and 38 R instead of 30/33. Tire technician said Michelin recommends the LT tires be inflated 10% higher than the standard OEM tire pressure. Overall I like the ride, very quiet and smooth
I have the same size tires on my 08 Sequoia,I'll be buying these on BLACK FRIDAY NOVEMBER 25th,im hoping Walmart has them cheaper than the $256 price right now...
Thinking about going to a 10ply tire on my half ton. Curious about the tire pressure since now I could go up to 80psi vs 50. Would that mess with the tpms now that the pressure is different on the dash? Like warnings? Not that I would put 80psi in them but hope you understand what I’m asking and if you experienced that with switching
Hi, thanks for the info. I noticed they don't make this tire anymore. What tire would you recommend to replace this one? Would it be the LTX M/S2? By the way, will be pulling a 2021 Lance 1985 model with my Expedition.
You didn't mention in this video how you liked the Bridgestone tires that came on the truck. I'm at the point right now where I'm going to replace the Bridgestone tires (due to wear) and would be curious what you thought of them while towing compared to the Michelin's. Thanks.
The Bridgestones were fine, quiet, and stable, but they din't last and had some very uneven wear. I don't want to indict Bridgestone as a manufacturer, my guess is it just the quality of the stock tire.
In same boat. I have a 2019 1794 4x4 w/20" wheels and the Bridgestone have only got me 22600 miles and the tires don't have much life along with bad camber wear. 2yrs of Toyota care took care of rotation and I have balance tire about 5x.
Thanks, I was leaning toward the Michelin's myself. However, I'm having a hard time finding them in stock. TireRack doesn't have them, nor does our Costco stores near us. But they do have Bridgestone tires.@@danielpomeroy
These tires will be replacing the KO2’s on my 2021 Ram 1500. The KO2’s have just over 30,000 (mostly road) miles on them. Occasional towing of a utility trailer and occasional gravel road travel. They are already at the wear indicators!
I also have a Toyota Tundra crewmax V8 and tow a travel trailer @ 5000 lbs. I have the Michelin 275/70 R18 LTX M/S E. When you are towing what do you keep your tire pressure at ?
@@kedrevs4037wow really? I always thought you add more than that to the tire to help it support the weight, like I would go close to 40 in the front and maybe 45 in the back. I did that towing from CA to WA no issues on 275/65/18 KO2 E rated tires no issues. But now I’m back on 20 inch wheels and will get a set of defenders because I’ve mature now, thanks for your videos and knowledge.
My tundra gets towing 9.5 mpg. …highway with out towing 24.5 have the same truck but mine is a Sport model. Even the same running boards. Michelin’s by far are the best tires.
That’s what I see as well. The 20 inch for my Tundra has a load rating of E1. I tow a a 7700lb camper and my current factory tires ( SL) feel like marshmallows when towing. I will most likely replace them with the E series when the time comes. I have heard D series is good for towing as well.
I don't do a lot of offroading, but a couple years ago I boondocked hooked up to my 6K lbs travel trailer and it down poured all night. When I took off in the AM, I left 6-*' grooves in the mud for 100 feet and never slipped.
Thanks for the review, well done new sub here. Question for anyone… How are these in snow? Recommended? I live in PA, ‘21 F-150, 18” wheels, need new tires. I don’t tow and don’t plan on it. Truck is a daily driver, I am a wood worker, and the guy in the family who helps everyone with everything, so I do haul stuff but nowhere near capacity. I could drive up to 1,000 miles a month for work or zero (mostly highway). Living in PA I need something that will work “well” in snow. I don’t want to get winter tires also as our winters are a crap shoot these days. So… anyone think these would be a good option for me and work well enough for an occasional snow run?? Any other recommendations?
Originally from Northern OH, so I get it. Th'e M/S is for mud and snow. I actually ended up traveling with my travel trailer through two separate ice storms and a white out blizzard through Texas during the 2020 Snowpocalypse. Southern Texas was/is not prepared for snow. They handled very well.
I don't generally travel in snow, but had the misfortune of traversing the entire state of Texas from east to west during the snowpocalypse of 2021. I had travel trailer in tow the whole time through two separate ice storms and white out blizzard. Never had an issue.
I drive a Z71 Tahoe my wife drives a Yukon 4wd with the same tires I got 25,000 more miles on mine and I towed a 18 ft steel car trailer loaded with RZR and 4 wheelers 75% of the time. she takes off faster and waits to last minute to hit the brakes. Driving style makes a major difference. My tires was still usable when changes but not hers. Rotation every oil change.
Thanks for a honest, detailed review, much appreciated 👍
I’ve never had 20” wheels, but I ran Defenders and LTX M/S2’s on F150 work trucks a lot. They seem to last forever.
Great info sir. Thank you.
They are the best tire made. Don't waste your time looking at others.
Your 100% correct...
Thank you for your videos on this tire. Im sold.
Thank you for watching.
Also, thanks for the explanation between LT tires for smaller rim sizes! I was wondering about that since I usually buy LT’s but really want to try the LTX. The Ram has 20” wheels, going to try these out.
I think you will be very happy with them.
Those are excellent tires. I have the same tire in 265/70 R17 on my 2003 Dodge Ram 1500.
Got these tires for my 2007 Sporttrac in size 265 60R18s. They are so smooth and quiet, it feels like I bought a whole new truck lol.
THANK YOU!!! Exact same use with my new 2018 Tundra. Would like bigger tire, but really want good MPG, and Tow an RV.
Overlanding will equip in once this Tundra isn't primary truck.
Love that plan.
I noticed you said you rotate every 10k miles. I’ve always heard 5k miles. You seem like a guy that makes very informed decisions. Is there a specific reason or reasons you rotate every 10k miles instead of 5k miles?
Probably just a personal choice ..
7500-10k is fine.
That's what the manufacturer and retail service centers require for the warranty.
Hi, I keep hearing the Michelin LTX MS tire has been discontinued. Are you able to verify that? If so, do you know why it was discontinued? Someone told me the LTX MS2 is replacing it. Thoughts on that tire vs the LTX MS original? TIA
About to get a set of 275/55/R20 on my F150 for $263 each. Had to really talk my heart out of Nitto Ridge Grapplers for $303 each as they look nice and aggressive. But since I cannot see them from the drivers seat, might as well go with the best tire.
I had the same struggle. You will love the function over form.
Enjoy your videos. I have the same truck and looking at these tires. When towing your trailer, do you inflate your tires to maximum pressure? My tire guy and my camper repair guy tell me to always run at least 48 pounds in the rear when towing. My camper is about 5,800 pounds. Thanks!
Did you mention what PSI you run with these? May have missed it in the video. Trying to decide between 30/33 cold or 35 all around on the set I had installed today on my 2010 Limited with the 275/55/R20s.
I have these tires on my Silverado. Had them about 2 years and not showing much tread wear. Better than the Bridgestones (factory tires ) they replaced, imo.
Appreciate the comment
What do you think of Cooper discoverer road + trail A/T 265/65/r18 it’s a 116 C load or XL.
Do you think that would ride good?
Had Cooper Dicoverer A/T years ago on my Ram 1500. They were very good, but didn't last 50k miles. Replaced with Michelin Defenders and never looked back
I just bought these exact tires and my truck rides more like a car now. I hope they can handle snowy wet roads. Got tired of burning through noisy, gas eating AT tires every 40k miles or 2 years. I laugh when I see guys in brand new trucks with lift kits and oversized aggressive looking AT tires. What a waste of money to look cool and dominant.
The reviews I've watched says you should be good,let me know,im getting a set for my Sequoia 275-65-18 on BLACK FRIDAY NOVEMBER 25TH,Walmart has them now for $256 which isnt bad but im trying to get them even cheaper...
They do great in rain and snow. I try to avoid snow, but the 2021 Texas snowpocalypse got me.
@@kedrevs4037 Much appreciated..
The only tire that actually last what they are rated
Love these tires
Just bought a set of the LTX M/S 121R E1s for 17" wheels on my Ram. The Good Year AT Adventure with Kevlar's that came with the truck (upgraded from the crappy Good Years) lasted 65,000 miles. Little disappointing. They really haven't performed well the last few years. Hoping these will be the tires I will be sticking with for the rest of the life of the truck. All the reviews I've seen here and elsewhere say these are great, and can last for up to 100,000 miles. Crossing my fingers on these.
My bet is those E rated tires will do that 100k for you
Thanks for the review, got a set of 275/65/R18 E rated 10 ply tires, will see how it handles compared to the stock Michelin that came with the SR5 CM TRD Offroad
Be interested to hear what you think. My son's go Erated 285/60/20 Nexen on his 2015, they seem to do very well.
@@kedrevs4037 it's a keeper, it's a bit bouncy over bumpy roads and potholes due to the stiffer side walls but also helps dampen swaying. New tire pressure set to 34 psi F and 38 R instead of 30/33. Tire technician said Michelin recommends the LT tires be inflated 10% higher than the standard OEM tire pressure. Overall I like the ride, very quiet and smooth
I have the same size tires on my 08 Sequoia,I'll be buying these on BLACK FRIDAY NOVEMBER 25th,im hoping Walmart has them cheaper than the $256 price right now...
Thinking about going to a 10ply tire on my half ton. Curious about the tire pressure since now I could go up to 80psi vs 50. Would that mess with the tpms now that the pressure is different on the dash? Like warnings? Not that I would put 80psi in them but hope you understand what I’m asking and if you experienced that with switching
@mercedesbenzs600bash did you end up getting them? I also have a 2008 Sequoia and need new tires soon. I can't make up my mind on which to get.
Michelin is KING...
Hi, thanks for the info. I noticed they don't make this tire anymore. What tire would you recommend to replace this one? Would it be the LTX M/S2? By the way, will be pulling a 2021 Lance 1985 model with my Expedition.
Yes, I have Defender LTX M/S2, that is the current version of this tire.
@@kedrevs4037 Thanks so much for the reply! Great video you did.
You didn't mention in this video how you liked the Bridgestone tires that came on the truck. I'm at the point right now where I'm going to replace the Bridgestone tires (due to wear) and would be curious what you thought of them while towing compared to the Michelin's. Thanks.
The Bridgestones were fine, quiet, and stable, but they din't last and had some very uneven wear. I don't want to indict Bridgestone as a manufacturer, my guess is it just the quality of the stock tire.
In same boat. I have a 2019 1794 4x4 w/20" wheels and the Bridgestone have only got me 22600 miles and the tires don't have much life along with bad camber wear. 2yrs of Toyota care took care of rotation and I have balance tire about 5x.
The Bridgestones on my Silverado were good except for the uneven tread wear, the Michelin's I have now are great.
Thanks, I was leaning toward the Michelin's myself. However, I'm having a hard time finding them in stock. TireRack doesn't have them, nor does our Costco stores near us. But they do have Bridgestone tires.@@danielpomeroy
@@toddtonis I got mine at discount tire in wyoming, mi
Hello, when rotating your Michelin Tires, do you do a cross pattern rotation or just front to back and back to front?
Criss cross front to back and bring back forward.
Fantastic review brotha… sub’d
Thanks, appreciate that
Thank you!
These tires will be replacing the KO2’s on my 2021 Ram 1500. The KO2’s have just over 30,000 (mostly road) miles on them. Occasional towing of a utility trailer and occasional gravel road travel. They are already at the wear indicators!
I really like the KO2s, but you will love the functionality of this tire
@@kedrevs4037 I put the Defenders on my truck last month. Huge difference in ride comfort and handling.
I also have a Toyota Tundra crewmax V8 and tow a travel trailer @ 5000 lbs. I have the Michelin 275/70 R18 LTX M/S E. When you are towing what do you keep your tire pressure at ?
I keep it close to stock recs. I bump to 31-32 in front and 34-35 in rear, only 1-2. over the recs. Rather a little over than under
@@kedrevs4037wow really? I always thought you add more than that to the tire to help it support the weight, like I would go close to 40 in the front and maybe 45 in the back. I did that towing from CA to WA no issues on 275/65/18 KO2 E rated tires no issues. But now I’m back on 20 inch wheels and will get a set of defenders because I’ve mature now, thanks for your videos and knowledge.
My tundra gets towing 9.5 mpg. …highway with out towing 24.5 have the same truck but mine is a Sport model. Even the same running boards. Michelin’s by far are the best tires.
I added the TRD rear sway bar on Platinum, so it should be a lot like your sport.
What about road noise from these tires? The duelers that came with mine are noisy.
very quiet
I have a 2017 Toyota Tundra 1794 with the Michelin Defender LTX M/S. However, per Michelin they are 10 ply tires.
There are both passenger versions and LT versions of this tire.
That’s what I see as well. The 20 inch for my Tundra has a load rating of E1. I tow a a 7700lb camper and my current factory tires ( SL) feel like marshmallows when towing. I will most likely replace them with the E series when the time comes. I have heard D series is good for towing as well.
What product do you use on your tires to achieve that shine? Truck looks great!
Black Magic tire wet I’ma put on with a cloth. But anymore, I’ve gotten so busy, I let the local car wash do it. It’s automatic.
Thinking of buying these for my Tacoma. How are they for offroad?
I don't do a lot of offroading, but a couple years ago I boondocked hooked up to my 6K lbs travel trailer and it down poured all night. When I took off in the AM, I left 6-*' grooves in the mud for 100 feet and never slipped.
These tires don't do 65k I have them on my truck now but good tires
Hmmm, first I've heard to make it a long, lng time
Thanks for the review, well done new sub here. Question for anyone… How are these in snow? Recommended? I live in PA, ‘21 F-150, 18” wheels, need new tires. I don’t tow and don’t plan on it. Truck is a daily driver, I am a wood worker, and the guy in the family who helps everyone with everything, so I do haul stuff but nowhere near capacity. I could drive up to 1,000 miles a month for work or zero (mostly highway). Living in PA I need something that will work “well” in snow. I don’t want to get winter tires also as our winters are a crap shoot these days. So… anyone think these would be a good option for me and work well enough for an occasional snow run?? Any other recommendations?
Originally from Northern OH, so I get it. Th'e M/S is for mud and snow. I actually ended up traveling with my travel trailer through two separate ice storms and a white out blizzard through Texas during the 2020 Snowpocalypse. Southern Texas was/is not prepared for snow. They handled very well.
Thanks for the vid. How'd they do in snow?
I don't generally travel in snow, but had the misfortune of traversing the entire state of Texas from east to west during the snowpocalypse of 2021. I had travel trailer in tow the whole time through two separate ice storms and white out blizzard. Never had an issue.
@@kedrevs4037 thank for your reply
@@kedrevs4037 Pretty impressive,I'll be getting these for my Sequoia 275-65-18 on BLACK FRIDAY NOVEMBER 25TH....
As long as you never leave the road, never drive on wet road or drive in snow, this is a decent tire.
16's all day every day.
Offroder, huh
@@kedrevs4037 For many more reasons than just Offroading !
Mine only lasted 55000 miles then had to be replaced
Lots of towing? or loaded down?
@@kedrevs4037 no towing or loads
@@nurseman1313 What was your rotation schedule?
Yep, same with mine. Still a good tire though
I drive a Z71 Tahoe my wife drives a Yukon 4wd with the same tires I got 25,000 more miles on mine and I towed a 18 ft steel car trailer loaded with RZR and 4 wheelers 75% of the time. she takes off faster and waits to last minute to hit the brakes. Driving style makes a major difference. My tires was still usable when changes but not hers. Rotation every oil change.