@@wulfaxe7661spawn location less so, it’s more where you choose to appear. I usually flank super far and super low, nobody can see or track me until I drop bombs and start dogfighting. (F-5C)
I used to completely suck at air RB. Then, I started paying attention to positioning and navigation. I increased my K/D from about 0.5 to 1.8 within a matter of days. I knew how to fly, maneuver and aim yet without proper positioning all of this was useless.
@@vitaliyk1990 If i recall correctly some of the shadows are baked into the terrain texture when high up in a plane so even ULQ doesnt get rid of the dark spots on the maps.
One of the few guides of war thunder that doesnt cover the same few tips of just "use binoculars lol" and "dont just stand out in the open". Pretty much every war thunder guide feels like its for absolute beginners and while I had already internalized most of this knowledge, this gives a great way of increasing my understanding of why what I'm doing works and the terminology used to explain it
Im so glad somebody finally talked about these things and explains it well, i especially utilize dead space whenever i can and it can lead to really good turkey shoots sometimes. I honestly dont know how you aren't more well known, this is really good advice for ground that more people need to know
I appreciate the kind words! I'm small time cause this is only a hobby, with a career and baby it's hard to upload consistently. But I'm glad you're here!
I used to play a game called Day of Defeat with a group called the 506th PIR which was a realism dedicated clan so to speak. That is a prelude to the story of my civilian live for taking military training and qualification courses for everything I could imagine. But during my play time with the 506 I learned about enfilade, defilade, proper covering fire, cavalry scouting tactics and techniques used during WWII and even a ton of jargon and terminology that stuck so well sometimes people mistake me for a vet when I talk to some of my friends in said slang language. Like us discussing a cod lobby in which I used some anti perosnelle mines and hotel echo to drop a squad, before calling in CAS and it resulting in a victory. But I digress, I encourage everyone to join or at least play around with joining mil sim groups, if you are at all serious about using real world tactics in games to make the best of your advantages that you can, and avoid dangerous situations and kill zones.
It’s nice to see that for somebody like me with no real life combat experience, that I have learnt the points you mentioned while playing war thunder for 6 years. SLL Stops were hard for me to remember to do regularly.
@@RoneK_Actual It's nice to finally have someone with actual AV skills putting out tips. I'm a former 12B Sapper and while I get fire and maneuver techniques, my grunt training doesn't apply as well to AV combat. I subbed immediately upon learning you're a 19D. I need all the effective help I can get. Glad you're home, brother. Hooah.
Another tip thats especially important in city map and CQC, do not do the WoT wiggle. That engine revving will alert everyone nearby and annoy your teammates who's trying to listen for enemy engines
It can save your life sometimes though, i have bounced several panther shots with an IS-1 by using this wiggle. I use it only when im about to be shot though.
That’s and the unnecessary smoke screens just hide behind that building 2 inches from you come on can’t tell you how many times I get killed because I’m in a good ambush spot and have to move because of a teams smoke and I get spotted by MG fire from the enemy u can also peek around corners and over hills without binoculars and showing yourself by using free look can’t tell you how many time I was able to save myself from death by simply stoping holding C and panning around and to no surprise a tank is sitting there waiting another tip is move slow if you know the area is being watching your more likely to get spotted while rushing to cover then taking your time and making those kill shots because the enemy is focusing on your speeding team mates lols
You are the first person I've heard talk about SLL stops in war thunder. I conduct them, especially in squadron battles and forest fights, and it's been immensely useful for years and years.
lol we get taught that In the Australian Army Cadets haha, didn't know It would be so useful in war thunder, I already have a habit before pushing out from one area to another, I normally stop, look around corners peeking and pying, and then also listening to engine sounds and gunfire, one really good thing I learnt is to go to audio, turn your engine sound down and then boost enemy engines sounds to the max, it makes it so much easier to hear OPFOR, at the same time I don't get to hear my own awesome tank sounds 😭.
Now that I think about it, all of my 10-11 kill games were matches where I kept moving around, flanking multiple different points and staying behind and out of sight of my enemies
I actually gained a lot of this by sheer osmosis playing the game. Great tips! SLL is one of my most used tactics. I can pinpoint enemies up to i think it's 200m away just by stopping, rotating my camera so the engine audio balances in my headphones (indicating source is directly ahead) and making sure it's not a friendly. Very, very useful in urban maps. The CAS tips are something I use a ton as well. No movement or firing unless necessary (that's always how I spot them), keep blended in, make a run difficult with positioning.
Watch some Oddbawz videos. He can tell you the colour of a gunner's socks from across the map by the engine sound. As I don't use headphones I didn't really pay attention to this until last year or so, and I'm now regularly topping leader boards at all BRs. Knowing there's an enemy nearby before he knows you're there is 90% of the engagement won.
@@danielross7983 Haha! You won't believe it, but Oddbawz is the sole War Thunder player I watch (aside from coleisprettygreat). I don't know how in the hell he can tell not just the type of plane but that it's a BF-109 E from 4km away unzoomed (second latest video iirc) but it's very impressive, his ID skills are off the charts. Never mind his adaptability skills, he can go from 3.0 BR to tip-top tier without a sweat. And you're totally right. Just knowing people are coming makes a colossal difference. You will still be taken by surprise but it's far less often and usually it'll be YOU taking the flanker by surprise.
Maybe this is a bit advanced but you can use the silhouette to your advantage as anyone that sees you, will engage you. So if you can survive the initial confrontation, you effectively stop the enemies' advance while they try to deal with you, which will give your own team much more options.
100%, a lot of players especially in un-stabilized tanks will stop to shoot the first thing they see out of panic reaction. So if you're confident in bouncing, you can force them to stop in the open thus making an easy kill.
As a Tiger II H player I have stopped enemies from capping using this tactic, I pop out and shoot near them, they stop and bounce, and my team comes in. It works
This is why I love flanking so much. Scoot around the cap and shoot someone in the rear, you get marked by them, and all of a sudden anyone around there focuses on you. It doesn't always work if you're immediately killed (read CAS'd to death), but fun nonetheless.
I actually like to do this just to annoy people, where - especially if my gunner is already dead or somesuch - I'll just intentionally make myself as active a target as I can, to distract as many enemies as possible. If they are spending time shooting a disabled tank, they aren't hitting friendlies.
Finally, an actually useful tank guide. I've been looking for something like this for a long time, something that actually explains positioning more than the usual "just flank bro" advice. As a top 2% air RB player trying to get into ground battles, I've noticed that the resources that would usually explain these kinds of things in air RB just don't exist for ground RB (or I at least can't find them), so I really appreciate this kind of guide. Please consider recording yourself in gameplay and explaining what is going through your head with positioning and tactics, @AdamTheEnginerd did videos like that for air RB which were extremely helpful guides!
I have 1200 hours logged on Warthunder. I must put my two cents in, movement is an incredibly important skill to learn. Knowing paths of which players can follow can determine your fate or your success. If you can predict the movements of your enemies, you'll bring yourself great success.
I’ll put mine in too, if you have a good flank never be blood thirsty, if you think more enemy’s are near then your better off waiting. A good flank if properly used can change the tide of a game.
The general rule of thumb is to keep low and stay behind covers like crests and rocks. Ppl also tends to greatly undermine the importance of "soft covers" like trees and bushes
These tips are amazing! Hopefully more people see this so games can be more competitive, longer and fun :). Such a useful and practical guide, well edited and excellently narrated. I'll be keeping an eye out for more of your top tips :D. P.s. love the Chi-Ri ll game play, nobody gives that tank enough love!
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you liked the video! Dude the Chi-Ri II is disgusting. I'm honestly considering getting a talisman for it, probably do a video on it soon!
Wow, I got laughed at by my squadron for having 2.5k hours and asking for tips with positioning of this nature. Thanks a lot, would love to see more of this kind of content.
I cannot stress how perfect the timing was for me to get recommended this video. I was frustrated with always dying in GRB so I went and grinded ARB for about a year now (got the F14), now I am finally going to get back into ground battles because I have the Squadron Abrams researched (not bought). I am going to try and use these tips to the fullest, and also thank you for your service!
If youre jumping from low tier to topp tier youre going to get abaolutly shit on by players that know every spot on the map and every weakspot on every tank.
As someone who is expirienced in WT I learn nothing super new but I can guarantte these tips are trully masterclass. Movement is most important game changer on every tank you play. Good patient and carefull movement can make every mediocre tank to excelent. Newest example is Ratel 90, is neither fast neither have super gun, but flanking suprising and covering orange tank in forest was a essential to not be food for rats or birds. Everytime I was uncovered and CAS destroyed me by cannons or 50cal. Only to blame was me and poor positioning.
As a CAS main ( only fly guy in my group of friends) I love when tanks sit still in the middle of a road or field, it's easy pickings. If you want a better chance then back yourself against a building so I can only come from 180° of you and sit still. Moving targets are easy to spot. And if you are AA PLEASE put bushes on the TOP of your tank. I can't tell you the amount of times I've been shot by hidden AA
I find with AA at lower tiers they try to shoot you when you are reeeeeaalllyyy far away and they just give themselves away. The amount of times I've just fired a 50mm cannon shot from my Me-262 at a distant AA and landed a kill only because he tried to shoot at me and fell way short is hilarious high.
Very good tips mr. Bradley gunner, i can say that these tactics I've already been using but I'm surprised by how rare they are in game. Sometimes I'll spawn on a map with a great flank route thinking ya I'll counter flank, only to be met by no one flanking in the first place
That's my favorite lol for some reason people think there is some sort of gentleman's agreement between teams where we are supposed to just drive straight at each other but nah bro lol
Agreed. So often (i play mostly arcade after my 2 year wt break). Trams go all center. Nobody at all goes to cover flanks. And surely, 3 minutes later, while team is dead.
I've played a lot and have come to realise these things from experience, and I couldn't agree more. Especially with the ridges and dead space, people fail to realise just how much they can hide themselves by driving around the side of a hill instead of over it. And listening is great especially for cities where an enemy vehicle could be around every corner, there's even a separate sound setting to lower your own engine volume for yourself, to not get confused by it, but if you listen just slowing down and letting go of the pedal turns your engine from a roaring beast to a quiet humm.
We need more videos like this! Watching a war thunder veteran doing a 10 kill game is awesome, i love them all, but an actual veteran giving intelligible, didactical advice is what the War Thunder comunity is in need! Got a like and a sub
One of the best WT guides I have ever seen, clear, understandable, and to-the-point. Loved the interactivity with trying to spot the Puma, you have certainly earned yourself a sub!
7:37 Mine was worst. I was so dedicated in camping an aisle that my tunnel visioning ass ignored the WHIRRRR of the T-80B just over the next road to me since I thought my teammates would do something about it. (Which they don't and totally went into the open fields north to meet the flanking rat vehicles of the enemy team) Sufficed to say, my ass cheeks got clapped hard that day and a beautiful repair bill.
@@RoneK_ActualLiterally just 3 hours ago my ass got clapped by a BMD-4 and the Leopard A1A1 10 meters away from me just didn't make contact with it and continued watching an aisle. That BMD-4 proceeded to slap everyones cheeks. Anyone in transit to B and C got totaled and it was a massacre. All because that single Leopard A1A1 stood and watched me as I got pummled by its 30mm for minute plus. I swear these people will give me a headache.
I stumbled across this video by accident, and I am not disappointed. These are all excellent tips! As someone who enjoys using CAS, all the points you made about avoiding it are spot on.
Weird how video seems like the the most obvious things being pointed out, but then you realise how people play and maybe it isnt so obvious to the majority.
I really loved how easy was to understand the explanations during the video; also the best parts were when an enemy tank got shot at, or instantly killed, and above them appared a notification saying We need more bushes; I was like: "Houston we've got a problerm! We neeed more bushes!" 😂
Running through the low trench areas along with the gullies has allowed me to move into a flank position many times or even hit the other team from behind without being seen. So many players skyline and get popped by someone lurking in the trees and bush areas due to being spotted so easy. Great vid and spot on with sound tactics.
When I first saw your video I thought it would be another war thunder TH-camr talking about technical stuff like settings, turns out I actually get an effective lesson based on real life experience, cool video man
I have less than 300 hours in this game and I was surprised to find out I already utilize all of these tips, choosing Japan as my first nation really helped me use my environment instead of relying on armour. these are very helpful tips, I like the way you lay it out with visual examples, great video!
I started with japan too! Its a rough start to the game, but if you manage to perform with japan, you manage to be a menace with nation that you actually have some advantage
This is exactly why tracks, suspension, transmission, and engine should always be the first modifications to upgrade on any tank. Superior gun handling and round selection do you no good if you can't be in the right place at the right time to put your gun on target, and you can overcome the limitations of a bad gun by having a position of advantage over an opponent (still can't do much to make APCR better tho, sorry).
As an experienced war thunder play, I’ve evolved to learn these tricks, especially dead zone. However it’s nice to hear it from an actual experienced tanker. Awesome video, hopefully some new players see this and learn some tactics. I’d like to see more of your strategies. Im sure there is something new to learn from an actual tank crewman
You got me at "I was actually in the army" - I immediately perked up and started listening more intently at that point! (though I was not going to dismiss what you said offhand anyway, it helped a lot). Thankyou for your great tips!
Oh wow, I must say... I am pretty new to the game and I used just your movement tips, stayed in dead space, scraped close to objects when planes are in the air, and did not crest hills and I just had one of my best RB games to date. Thank you so much, this was great content
Ok... you got a "like" for the excellent video with well-presented and useful information. You got a "sub" for the "Need More Bushes" kill text! It's so easy to forget these tips when you're in the moment, it's nice to have a reminder of the basics - even after a few thousand hours lol!
I managed to stay undetected in SU 152 by two enemies with about 5 meters from them just because I tuned off my engine and they didn't look around the rock I was staying near XD
Im a world of tank blitz player with 10k battle. I was using this technique and it was very helpful ! Every battles i was the best because of the mouvement !
A point remaining to be made is the sound difference between wheeled and tracked vehicles, even if it's just to point out that there is one. And maybe something on the correct usage of smoke as means of deception and cover since there is nothing more infuriating than having a teammate who got tracked around a corner turn a stand off into a free double or tripple kill for CAS.
A proper smoke use tutorial might be a good idea. People drop smoke so often when they don't need to that it often obstructs their teammates trying to cover them.
You can but that's assuming the CAS player isn't running ULQ or has shadows set to minimal - you do get some benefit but it's not as much as you think.
Dude this was a fantastic video and Im so happy someone finally covered this topic! Movement is easily one of the most important parts of War Thunder and it always drives me crazy seeing how many people I kill due to bad positioning or listening for opponents! I have no irl combat experience and these are all things Ive learned just throughout my time playing War Thunder and they were all perfectly explained! Instant sub!
I'm glad you're sharing about SLLs. For me, it was something I learned overtime while playing the game (I thought it was common sense to SLL). It's crazy how frequent you can see high leveled players hold W without checking for enemies. I also learned that moving on low rpm helps, as you can keep moving forward while also listening for enemy sounds. It's not applicable for every scenario tho, but helpful when needed.
Have you seen the footage from Ukraine of the two Bradleys engaging the t90m? It seems that Warthunder does get some things right...small caliber cannons can indeed put some hurting on a mbt. I'm guessing that they must have been out of tows or they would have used them. Still some impressive footage!
I have seen some footage...anything is possible in reality honestly because the vehicle is only as effective as its crew! If the gunners are experienced enough they could totally achieve mobility kills on MBTs by taking tracks out. Or even cause damage to the barrel.
@@RoneK_Actual From the footage, it appears they set off the smoke dischargers on the T-90, damaged the optics, possibly damaged the turret rotation mechanism (or wounded the gunner). And from the pictures claimed to be of the tank at a later time, it seems to also have scraped off most of the ERA on it. Not to mention that the constant noise inside must have been horrible for the crew.
one thing I've noticed a lot recently even in higher tiers is people being almost senseless, they never listen to other tanks nearby to figure out where the enemy might be and always just keep going down the except same path, getting the first shot in is like the holy grail of a tank gunner so not being seen or heard is so important
Some actually great and new tips! Usually with these videos it's all the same, but you changed a couple of them with great input and added some new cool stuff. Great video!
Good stuff. I try to also use the shadows from buildings to hide from CAS, or a light and shadow combination that will break up their sight picture. Really, I'd prefer no-CAS servers - I mean, we have no infantry, and that can make a big difference, especially in MOUT.
For real! In my camo video a while back I talked about how shadow is one of the key fundamentals of camouflage and just staying alive. Thanks for the comments guys!
Sensational video! was aware of sll and skylining, but dead zone/route planning are concepts i hadn't even thought about! Has had a noticeable impact on my gameplay.
6:42 LMAO i`m so condicioned to look at further ranges that i didn`t even bothered to look closer bc of the engine sound that i always hear u got me there mate
It is very refreshing to see someone talking about fundamentals like this. I considered making a video on this topic 2-3 years ago when I started getting really into War Thunder and I was around 1-2k hours. I am now at 7k with most tech trees unlocked or spaded when it comes to ground and air is well on the way to that too. The only other topic I have not seen anyone talk about when it comes to movement fundamentals is map pacing and adjustments to said pacing based on BR. Most games you will meet the enemy team at specific locations that are either meta or common pathways which is the way the game is designed based on player habits and Gaijin having suggestive gameplay elements. Take the transition of 8.0 - 9.0 for example. Mobility skyrockets between 8.0-9.0 and the armour meta arguably starts to disappear. While all BRs have their popular and meta vehicles, understanding what you can and cant see based on the uptier/downtier and the max BR of the match helps me decide where I will go on the map. The first thing I do every game after seeing the BR of the match is check the nations I am fighting and play around that fact. Back when the Centuaro was 8.0 and I was playing 7.0 US I had to completely change my gameplan if I was against Italy because I knew the map pacing had the potential to be completely different and the mobility of my enemy was far superior to mine. I had the chance to run into said Centauros at completely unexpected spots due to their ability to cross the map in a faster time to what I was used to. Everyone will have preferred sides to maps but truly understanding how your side of the map will play out based on the set parameters you can account for every game makes gameplay so much more fun when you can guess what the enemy will be doing before they have even realised themselves.
Thanks for the comment! And you're totally right. The other day I got killed my an XM1 in my cheese wedge on El Alamein cause he got to a spot where I had no idea you could get to so fast.
A lot of good info in the video for newer or mid-skill players. I've been playing since 2015 and pretty much agree with everything you've said here. Movement and how you do it is absolutely critical in this game. The amount of times in matches when I see people just press W and go straight for a point only to die over and over is mind boggling to me. As for the CAS tips... I really think minimizing yourself to it just isn't enough. Planes and helicopters are just too much of a threat currently to properly deal with for most players, even long time ones like me.
I've played War Thunder (on and off) since it first came out (with just planes), and you have some good advice here. Even more important in Realistic mode. I would add that, in appropriate circumstances, I also turn off my engine (in what you call dead space), and an approaching enemy can't hear me at all.
I am pleasantly surprised that someone brought up this topic. I play on the BMD-4 at 11.3 in a setup with the Su-25T, Mig-27K and Ka-50. The BMD-4 shows itself very well, although it is at 9.0. I just do not expose myself to enemy fire, but I do flank detours and reconnaissance. I easily make 4+ kills and assist the team with scouting(except for playing on aircrafts and other armored vehicles.). It's all thanks to moving through the folds of the terrain and moving along unpopular routes on the map if possible (I've been playing since 2019 and I know the maps well). So almost any armored vehicle in the game can be turned into a frag-bringing one by following the tips from the video. Good luck!
Very well put together! It couldn’t have been said better! I find myself using those strategies lately and my performance has improved significantly. I’d add- play different types of vehicles, look the game from their perspective and perfect the strategy of implementation of your favourite tank.
this is so very useful, I have been trying to understand and learn to utilize position and movement on my own through trials and error for a long time now. What you said aligns with my understanding and in addition you brought good tactic that I haven't thought about. Thank you.
Never thought I'd find such a relatable player. I was a 19K for 8 years and a lot translates too. Another huge fundamental that's drilled into us is berm drills. Find your target, range it, move up, fire, back up. That way, you're only visible for a few seconds, and the time you are visible, you're ready to fire. Instant subscriber.
@RoneK_Actual It really is hard sometimes to remember those fundamentals during a game, though. Sometimes, I stay up in the enfilade way too long after a shot or I don't realize I'm not actually in the defilade when scouting
@RoneK_Actual Another thing that bugs me is the difference from real world tanks to WT tanks is the sight. If you're using the actual GAS sight, if you can see the target, your gun tube is clear of any obstructions. In the game, you have to check in third person to see if you're actually clear despite using a manual sight like the GAS.
These are some really great and important tips! Really gave me a solid understanding of the things I've learned throughout the years and learned new things like silhouette. It's a lot more satisfying to apply these together with vehicle and br knowledge where you'd basically be able to predict where most people are
First off let me say thank you for your service, also again thank you for your service because as a colorblind history nerd with a decent understanding of tank combat, I enjoy learning from people with the real world experience and I will definitely be trying your tactics on my next matches
I've realized as I was watching that I've slowly over timed naturally started using most of the stuff you bring up in the video as I played more and more, it's great to see there's actual terms for this stuff so I can explain it better to friends who haven't figured this stuff out or are new to the game, I'll def be sharing this video with some of them as well, thank you for making this Also, another good tip for CAS, especially in faster vehicles, is when you hear or see an aircraft coming in your general direction, pop smoke and change whatever direction you're moving, this will throw them off heavily, this is an actual real world tactic that works somewhat well in War Thunder, this is also a good way to defeat missiles that are manually guided like TOW missiles
Great set of tips! I would add use of shadows for concealment and turning off engine if waiting in ambush. Also, when choosing a firing position - choose a cover and angle that allow you to see but not fire (or to fired upon), popping out to fire and back into cover.
Just found out your channel. I hope I can learn more information from you with a military background. This video is really unique in the sense that most youtubers say the most cliche tips when making videos trying to improve players. Yours really go in depth and they don't just give the viewers theory they show the viewer how such theory works when the viewer is trialed. Very entertaining stuff!
5:31 the trick to seeing a tank traveling in dead space is always to look for radio antenaes, .50 cals, or engine exhaust along the ridgelibe of hills with binoculars.
The puma crosses the bushes at 5:43, zoom into the screen and you can see it pretty easily. (Easily 1000 hours in WT, though I’m not level 100 yet I’m only level 78 lol)
I noticed this significantly as a new player to the game but was unable to effectively replicate it often enough. Sometimes I’d get nice angles and positioning but I wouldn’t be able to replicate that every time.
I'm supprised that I haven't seen anyone mention these more often. When I started WT I watched some old WW2 US Tanker training footage and got these points drilled in very early on.
Last thing I ever expected to hear from a War Thunder youtuber was "I was a 19D!" A buddy of mine who was also on Bradley's before coming to college also told me to never crest hills as you get painted against the sky really easily. Neither he nor I want to branch Armor sadly :( but I wouldn't be too mad if I did. Thanks for the awesome video!
Thanks for watching! Lol when I first started reading the comment I thinking you'd have to be a tanker or 11B to hate 19Ds...even though without us you'd run into the enemy blindly lol
@RoneK_Actual Ha! Love it. No, I'm just a lowly cadoodle and for now aviation my top choice...we'll see though! I've heard cav scout PL time is incredible 👀
It's a lot of fun! My platoon did our own thing half the time. We were attached to HHC so as long as we weren't messed up our company commander didn't bother us at all. Aviation would be dope. I was at Bliss and they were constantly flying helos around.
absolutely loved the CAS "talk". I excel at SPAA work sending many players back to the hangar using these exact tactics literally ambushing planes when they fly close enough to spring the trap on. Become a bldg extension; SLL; wait for them to fly nearby; Brrrp; type in ALL chat "Hangar is that way"; Rinse & repeat - you sir get a BIG like, Thank you
oh I like the CAS as it adds layers to the depth of gameplay. And I certainly understand the players leaning into the "toxic" nature of CAS. I am opposed to it being removed. Also, not trying to set up a debate just adding to the great advice you give out@@RoneK_Actual-- LoL the "hangar is that way" bit is optional
Great video and very helpful. I would love to see a video in this style that focus specifically on positioning. How to identify good and bad "spots", Where to drive and the start of the match, in general how to "read" the battle. I think these are skills that experienced players take forgranted, but a lot of players really struggle with that kind of stuff. I know that is huge topic, but a video that even just covers the basics would be amazing.
I was a Bradley Gunner as well. I use those skills that I learned in the Army. Thank you for your service and video. I was in 2/7 IN, 1-9 IN and in 1/9 Cav. A-22 Dirty Deuce out!!
What an awesome video. Love that you bring TTPs that you learned in real life to this game, and happy to hear that some of them work!!!! I also love how much hate CAS gets haha. I love CAS in ground RB.
You know what, I was getting highly frustrated playing this game cause I couldn’t hear anything, especially when playing the Abrams, although I think that’s also just part of the game. I knew I was lacking skill somewhere, I was just getting too frustrated playing the game to figure it out. This really explained what I was doing wrong for so long and couldn’t see. I will definitely be putting this to use tonight when I play. Thanks man, I really need this video
try decreasing your engine sound so your engine sound does not overlap with enemies engine if you havent done that if you dont hear any engine around you keep on using binoculars far away where you think someone is sniping you
Dude Ive been really struggling at tank battles always wanted to get better after playing lots of games for around 4 hours a day 😵💫 I know I need sleep when I get home from work lol. From others tips have helped but not help me improved and I just used your fundamentals with others which have greatly improved my chances at having good games. Thank you for your service aswell proud that you decided to take a role in the defense of our country 🇺🇸 Once again thank you for the tips you have earned my subscription!
After watching this ive played a few missions and noticed a DRAMATIC improvement in my combat abilities. Before, i was lucky to last 5 minutes before losing all 3 tanks. In my last mission i didnt die once and scored 5 kills! Thank you for this video
As an air rb player with 2k hours I can say that positioning and movement are extremely important in air battles as well
Positioning is easily the most important factor in an air battle
ARB is literally just positions, from spawn location to aiming and shooting
@@wulfaxe7661spawn location less so, it’s more where you choose to appear. I usually flank super far and super low, nobody can see or track me until I drop bombs and start dogfighting. (F-5C)
@@dbio305don't use bombs with that, you're a dogfighter not a bomber
I used to completely suck at air RB. Then, I started paying attention to positioning and navigation. I increased my K/D from about 0.5 to 1.8 within a matter of days.
I knew how to fly, maneuver and aim yet without proper positioning all of this was useless.
Another tip to avoid CAS is to hide in the shadows. I cant tell you how many times hiding in a shadow saved my butt
Absolutely!
Ultra low graphics 😂
@@vitaliyk1990 If i recall correctly some of the shadows are baked into the terrain texture when high up in a plane so even ULQ doesnt get rid of the dark spots on the maps.
Until you turn shadows and lod down lol.
Thermals activated. Sir I see him in the trees! Target destroyed😂
One of the few guides of war thunder that doesnt cover the same few tips of just "use binoculars lol" and "dont just stand out in the open". Pretty much every war thunder guide feels like its for absolute beginners and while I had already internalized most of this knowledge, this gives a great way of increasing my understanding of why what I'm doing works and the terminology used to explain it
Thanks for the nice comment! I totally agree, that's why I try to go a little bit more in depth.
@@RoneK_Actual i wonder: why Gaijin build map with a lot of spots for cover, to have 90% of players going to hilltops to shoot enemies?
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"It's over Anikin... I have the high ground.."
@@RoneK_Actual thank you for your service.
Punch through the front and kill everyone from the side. Best tank for that is probably pt-16/14, 4.0 reload and 1500 hp and stabilizer..
Im so glad somebody finally talked about these things and explains it well, i especially utilize dead space whenever i can and it can lead to really good turkey shoots sometimes. I honestly dont know how you aren't more well known, this is really good advice for ground that more people need to know
I appreciate the kind words! I'm small time cause this is only a hobby, with a career and baby it's hard to upload consistently. But I'm glad you're here!
Same I was figuring out in my own and hooray video posted right as I was thinking about it
I used to play a game called Day of Defeat with a group called the 506th PIR which was a realism dedicated clan so to speak.
That is a prelude to the story of my civilian live for taking military training and qualification courses for everything I could imagine.
But during my play time with the 506 I learned about enfilade, defilade, proper covering fire, cavalry scouting tactics and techniques used during WWII and even a ton of jargon and terminology that stuck so well sometimes people mistake me for a vet when I talk to some of my friends in said slang language.
Like us discussing a cod lobby in which I used some anti perosnelle mines and hotel echo to drop a squad, before calling in CAS and it resulting in a victory.
But I digress, I encourage everyone to join or at least play around with joining mil sim groups, if you are at all serious about using real world tactics in games to make the best of your advantages that you can, and avoid dangerous situations and kill zones.
It’s nice to see that for somebody like me with no real life combat experience, that I have learnt the points you mentioned while playing war thunder for 6 years. SLL Stops were hard for me to remember to do regularly.
@@RoneK_Actual
It's nice to finally have someone with actual AV skills putting out tips.
I'm a former 12B Sapper and while I get fire and maneuver techniques, my grunt training doesn't apply as well to AV combat.
I subbed immediately upon learning you're a 19D.
I need all the effective help I can get.
Glad you're home, brother.
Hooah.
Another tip thats especially important in city map and CQC, do not do the WoT wiggle. That engine revving will alert everyone nearby and annoy your teammates who's trying to listen for enemy engines
For sure! And what's funny is the Rev is the loudest part lol
Bro seriously why the fuck are idiots conatantly reving their engine when theyre stationairym youre just telling everyone where you are.
Thank you so much for this! I'm a WOTB player who just started War Thunder.
It can save your life sometimes though, i have bounced several panther shots with an IS-1 by using this wiggle. I use it only when im about to be shot though.
That’s and the unnecessary smoke screens just hide behind that building 2 inches from you come on can’t tell you how many times I get killed because I’m in a good ambush spot and have to move because of a teams smoke and I get spotted by MG fire from the enemy u can also peek around corners and over hills without binoculars and showing yourself by using free look can’t tell you how many time I was able to save myself from death by simply stoping holding C and panning around and to no surprise a tank is sitting there waiting another tip is move slow if you know the area is being watching your more likely to get spotted while rushing to cover then taking your time and making those kill shots because the enemy is focusing on your speeding team mates lols
You are the first person I've heard talk about SLL stops in war thunder. I conduct them, especially in squadron battles and forest fights, and it's been immensely useful for years and years.
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!
lol we get taught that In the Australian Army Cadets haha, didn't know It would be so useful in war thunder, I already have a habit before pushing out from one area to another, I normally stop, look around corners peeking and pying, and then also listening to engine sounds and gunfire, one really good thing I learnt is to go to audio, turn your engine sound down and then boost enemy engines sounds to the max, it makes it so much easier to hear OPFOR, at the same time I don't get to hear my own awesome tank sounds 😭.
I forgot about SLLs, we used that in the Infantry too (its been a while lol)
@anthonyc7116 I heard it from brent0331 on TH-cam before I joined usmc. Incredibly, he is now my Sgt Major
@@anthonyc7116 we use that in the Australian Army Cadets too haha
Now that I think about it, all of my 10-11 kill games were matches where I kept moving around, flanking multiple different points and staying behind and out of sight of my enemies
100%....Sun Tzu said in The Art of War: "Appear at points which the enemy must hasten to defend; march swiftly to places where you are not expected."
Wow, a real tanker's experience translating well into a game
Thanks for sharing
FUCK WT ITS DOGSHIT
As a former 19K, I tank umbridge with your claim of a Cav Scout as a real tanker. 🤣🤣🤣😉
I actually gained a lot of this by sheer osmosis playing the game. Great tips!
SLL is one of my most used tactics. I can pinpoint enemies up to i think it's 200m away just by stopping, rotating my camera so the engine audio balances in my headphones (indicating source is directly ahead) and making sure it's not a friendly. Very, very useful in urban maps.
The CAS tips are something I use a ton as well. No movement or firing unless necessary (that's always how I spot them), keep blended in, make a run difficult with positioning.
Sound is vital in the urban maps! And glad to see you develop the skills as you play! Learning by failure is the best way!
Watch some Oddbawz videos. He can tell you the colour of a gunner's socks from across the map by the engine sound. As I don't use headphones I didn't really pay attention to this until last year or so, and I'm now regularly topping leader boards at all BRs. Knowing there's an enemy nearby before he knows you're there is 90% of the engagement won.
@@danielross7983 Haha! You won't believe it, but Oddbawz is the sole War Thunder player I watch (aside from coleisprettygreat). I don't know how in the hell he can tell not just the type of plane but that it's a BF-109 E from 4km away unzoomed (second latest video iirc) but it's very impressive, his ID skills are off the charts. Never mind his adaptability skills, he can go from 3.0 BR to tip-top tier without a sweat.
And you're totally right. Just knowing people are coming makes a colossal difference. You will still be taken by surprise but it's far less often and usually it'll be YOU taking the flanker by surprise.
Finally, a solid fundamentals video that isn't just "use your binos" and "memorize the maps". Thank you for the great video!
You're welcome! Thanks for the comment!
Maybe this is a bit advanced but you can use the silhouette to your advantage as anyone that sees you, will engage you. So if you can survive the initial confrontation, you effectively stop the enemies' advance while they try to deal with you, which will give your own team much more options.
100%, a lot of players especially in un-stabilized tanks will stop to shoot the first thing they see out of panic reaction. So if you're confident in bouncing, you can force them to stop in the open thus making an easy kill.
As a Tiger II H player I have stopped enemies from capping using this tactic, I pop out and shoot near them, they stop and bounce, and my team comes in. It works
This is why I love flanking so much. Scoot around the cap and shoot someone in the rear, you get marked by them, and all of a sudden anyone around there focuses on you. It doesn't always work if you're immediately killed (read CAS'd to death), but fun nonetheless.
I actually like to do this just to annoy people, where - especially if my gunner is already dead or somesuch - I'll just intentionally make myself as active a target as I can, to distract as many enemies as possible. If they are spending time shooting a disabled tank, they aren't hitting friendlies.
Good War Thunder advice... not so applicable in the real world ;)
Finally, an actually useful tank guide. I've been looking for something like this for a long time, something that actually explains positioning more than the usual "just flank bro" advice. As a top 2% air RB player trying to get into ground battles, I've noticed that the resources that would usually explain these kinds of things in air RB just don't exist for ground RB (or I at least can't find them), so I really appreciate this kind of guide.
Please consider recording yourself in gameplay and explaining what is going through your head with positioning and tactics, @AdamTheEnginerd did videos like that for air RB which were extremely helpful guides!
That's a good idea! I'll take that under advisement!
I have 1200 hours logged on Warthunder. I must put my two cents in, movement is an incredibly important skill to learn. Knowing paths of which players can follow can determine your fate or your success. If you can predict the movements of your enemies, you'll bring yourself great success.
100%, I like staying undetected and waiting for those perfect side shots!
I’ll put mine in too, if you have a good flank never be blood thirsty, if you think more enemy’s are near then your better off waiting. A good flank if properly used can change the tide of a game.
The general rule of thumb is to keep low and stay behind covers like crests and rocks. Ppl also tends to greatly undermine the importance of "soft covers" like trees and bushes
@RoneK_Actual show me your side, kitty! ~ T34 (film)
These tips are amazing! Hopefully more people see this so games can be more competitive, longer and fun :). Such a useful and practical guide, well edited and excellently narrated. I'll be keeping an eye out for more of your top tips :D. P.s. love the Chi-Ri ll game play, nobody gives that tank enough love!
Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you liked the video! Dude the Chi-Ri II is disgusting. I'm honestly considering getting a talisman for it, probably do a video on it soon!
Wow, I got laughed at by my squadron for having 2.5k hours and asking for tips with positioning of this nature. Thanks a lot, would love to see more of this kind of content.
08:22 to be fair- a KV2 could reasonably be mistaken for a building on it's own
I cannot stress how perfect the timing was for me to get recommended this video.
I was frustrated with always dying in GRB so I went and grinded ARB for about a year now (got the F14), now I am finally going to get back into ground battles because I have the Squadron Abrams researched (not bought).
I am going to try and use these tips to the fullest, and also thank you for your service!
Awesome! I hope these help on your grinding journey!
If youre jumping from low tier to topp tier youre going to get abaolutly shit on by players that know every spot on the map and every weakspot on every tank.
@@robertharris6092 Still gotta grind 600k SL before I make that jump, that's why I'm going to start getting into GRB now rather than later
As someone who is expirienced in WT I learn nothing super new but I can guarantte these tips are trully masterclass. Movement is most important game changer on every tank you play. Good patient and carefull movement can make every mediocre tank to excelent. Newest example is Ratel 90, is neither fast neither have super gun, but flanking suprising and covering orange tank in forest was a essential to not be food for rats or birds. Everytime I was uncovered and CAS destroyed me by cannons or 50cal. Only to blame was me and poor positioning.
0:54 u really called me out there but you actually serving got me way interested. Love the video and instantly subbed
Thanks so much for the kind words!
As a CAS main ( only fly guy in my group of friends) I love when tanks sit still in the middle of a road or field, it's easy pickings. If you want a better chance then back yourself against a building so I can only come from 180° of you and sit still. Moving targets are easy to spot. And if you are AA PLEASE put bushes on the TOP of your tank. I can't tell you the amount of times I've been shot by hidden AA
I find with AA at lower tiers they try to shoot you when you are reeeeeaalllyyy far away and they just give themselves away. The amount of times I've just fired a 50mm cannon shot from my Me-262 at a distant AA and landed a kill only because he tried to shoot at me and fell way short is hilarious high.
Very good tips mr. Bradley gunner, i can say that these tactics I've already been using but I'm surprised by how rare they are in game. Sometimes I'll spawn on a map with a great flank route thinking ya I'll counter flank, only to be met by no one flanking in the first place
That's my favorite lol for some reason people think there is some sort of gentleman's agreement between teams where we are supposed to just drive straight at each other but nah bro lol
Agreed. So often (i play mostly arcade after my 2 year wt break). Trams go all center. Nobody at all goes to cover flanks. And surely, 3 minutes later, while team is dead.
I've played a lot and have come to realise these things from experience, and I couldn't agree more. Especially with the ridges and dead space, people fail to realise just how much they can hide themselves by driving around the side of a hill instead of over it. And listening is great especially for cities where an enemy vehicle could be around every corner, there's even a separate sound setting to lower your own engine volume for yourself, to not get confused by it, but if you listen just slowing down and letting go of the pedal turns your engine from a roaring beast to a quiet humm.
Another good video RoneK, extremely informative, always nice to see real world tactics and strategies trying to be translated into war thunder.
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching!
We need more videos like this! Watching a war thunder veteran doing a 10 kill game is awesome, i love them all, but an actual veteran giving intelligible, didactical advice is what the War Thunder comunity is in need!
Got a like and a sub
Thanks for the kind words! Motivates me to do more!
Great tips! Coming from an old 11H (TOW Gunner on an M901) I can verify that these tactics are very sound!
Hell yeah! Those are old school!
One of the best WT guides I have ever seen, clear, understandable, and to-the-point.
Loved the interactivity with trying to spot the Puma, you have certainly earned yourself a sub!
I appreciate that so much! Thanks for the kind words!
3:27 "All you have to be doing is paying a little bit of attention"
Average WT players: shieeet fam I'm already lost
Facts!
7:37 Mine was worst. I was so dedicated in camping an aisle that my tunnel visioning ass ignored the WHIRRRR of the T-80B just over the next road to me since I thought my teammates would do something about it. (Which they don't and totally went into the open fields north to meet the flanking rat vehicles of the enemy team)
Sufficed to say, my ass cheeks got clapped hard that day and a beautiful repair bill.
We've all relied on teammates to do the most mundane tasks imaginable and have been let down 🤣
@@RoneK_ActualIf I had a Mic at that day. I would have a 3 day ban on my WT Profile Record.
@@RoneK_ActualLiterally just 3 hours ago my ass got clapped by a BMD-4 and the Leopard A1A1 10 meters away from me just didn't make contact with it and continued watching an aisle.
That BMD-4 proceeded to slap everyones cheeks. Anyone in transit to B and C got totaled and it was a massacre.
All because that single Leopard A1A1 stood and watched me as I got pummled by its 30mm for minute plus.
I swear these people will give me a headache.
A good rule of thumb:
Always drive the way water would flow.
I am remembering this one for training the new guys. Good point
Towards the nearest river basin?
Understood, must drive into ocean
@@Vox_Popul1 yes please.
And hide there.
Why is that?
I stumbled across this video by accident, and I am not disappointed.
These are all excellent tips!
As someone who enjoys using CAS, all the points you made about avoiding it are spot on.
Weird how video seems like the the most obvious things being pointed out, but then you realise how people play and maybe it isnt so obvious to the majority.
Thanks y'all for the awesome and kind comments! Glad I could help out!
I really loved how easy was to understand the explanations during the video; also the best parts were when an enemy tank got shot at, or instantly killed, and above them appared a notification saying We need more bushes; I was like: "Houston we've got a problerm! We neeed more bushes!" 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Running through the low trench areas along with the gullies has allowed me to move into a flank position many times or even hit the other team from behind without being seen. So many players skyline and get popped by someone lurking in the trees and bush areas due to being spotted so easy. Great vid and spot on with sound tactics.
I didn't know the SLL check was an official thing, I've been doing that forever so it's cool to know it's an actual military tactic
Super common dismounted procedure!
When I first saw your video I thought it would be another war thunder TH-camr talking about technical stuff like settings, turns out I actually get an effective lesson based on real life experience, cool video man
I appreciate that!
I have less than 300 hours in this game and I was surprised to find out I already utilize all of these tips, choosing Japan as my first nation really helped me use my environment instead of relying on armour. these are very helpful tips, I like the way you lay it out with visual examples, great video!
Thanks for the comment! Japan between 3.0 and 5.0 freaking rocks. Chi-Ri II one of my top preforming vehicles.
I started with japan too! Its a rough start to the game, but if you manage to perform with japan, you manage to be a menace with nation that you actually have some advantage
Really cool video man, been playing WT for 8 years. You sir have earned a new subscriber
Welcome aboard! Thanks for the comment!
This is exactly why tracks, suspension, transmission, and engine should always be the first modifications to upgrade on any tank. Superior gun handling and round selection do you no good if you can't be in the right place at the right time to put your gun on target, and you can overcome the limitations of a bad gun by having a position of advantage over an opponent (still can't do much to make APCR better tho, sorry).
Mobility often contributes to survivability for often than armor and firepower do!
As an experienced war thunder play, I’ve evolved to learn these tricks, especially dead zone. However it’s nice to hear it from an actual experienced tanker. Awesome video, hopefully some new players see this and learn some tactics. I’d like to see more of your strategies. Im sure there is something new to learn from an actual tank crewman
You got me at "I was actually in the army" - I immediately perked up and started listening more intently at that point! (though I was not going to dismiss what you said offhand anyway, it helped a lot).
Thankyou for your great tips!
Oh wow, I must say... I am pretty new to the game and I used just your movement tips, stayed in dead space, scraped close to objects when planes are in the air, and did not crest hills and I just had one of my best RB games to date. Thank you so much, this was great content
This helps a lot, thanks for the video
Glad to hear it!
Ok... you got a "like" for the excellent video with well-presented and useful information. You got a "sub" for the "Need More Bushes" kill text! It's so easy to forget these tips when you're in the moment, it's nice to have a reminder of the basics - even after a few thousand hours lol!
Thanks for the comment! I appreciate the kind words!
I managed to stay undetected in SU 152 by two enemies with about 5 meters from them just because I tuned off my engine and they didn't look around the rock I was staying near XD
So satisfying lol
Im a world of tank blitz player with 10k battle. I was using this technique and it was very helpful ! Every battles i was the best because of the mouvement !
A point remaining to be made is the sound difference between wheeled and tracked vehicles, even if it's just to point out that there is one. And maybe something on the correct usage of smoke as means of deception and cover since there is nothing more infuriating than having a teammate who got tracked around a corner turn a stand off into a free double or tripple kill for CAS.
A proper smoke use tutorial might be a good idea. People drop smoke so often when they don't need to that it often obstructs their teammates trying to cover them.
1:02 thank u for your service man :D
Not to mention when hiding from CAS you can use the shadow of buildings etc which makes you even harder to spot.
You can but that's assuming the CAS player isn't running ULQ or has shadows set to minimal - you do get some benefit but it's not as much as you think.
@@gfimadcat ah yeah
Ulq players...
I actually been thinking a lot of these points but you really helped improve and polish it for me never seen much guide and tips about this topic
I already use the first two strats but damn this was still an eye opener, thanks! 🙏🏻
Of course! Thanks for watching!
Dude this was a fantastic video and Im so happy someone finally covered this topic! Movement is easily one of the most important parts of War Thunder and it always drives me crazy seeing how many people I kill due to bad positioning or listening for opponents! I have no irl combat experience and these are all things Ive learned just throughout my time playing War Thunder and they were all perfectly explained! Instant sub!
just dont leak any document of Bradley plz
Just because you said please I won't lol
@@RoneK_Actualbro had devious plans
Too late…
doesnt really matter anymore, the russians have it anyway
@@RoneK_Actualdo it bro I'm ready to expend my collections of restricted military vehicles data
I'm glad you're sharing about SLLs. For me, it was something I learned overtime while playing the game (I thought it was common sense to SLL). It's crazy how frequent you can see high leveled players hold W without checking for enemies.
I also learned that moving on low rpm helps, as you can keep moving forward while also listening for enemy sounds. It's not applicable for every scenario tho, but helpful when needed.
Spot on! I love catching players out with that W key slammed down!
Have you seen the footage from Ukraine of the two Bradleys engaging the t90m? It seems that Warthunder does get some things right...small caliber cannons can indeed put some hurting on a mbt. I'm guessing that they must have been out of tows or they would have used them. Still some impressive footage!
I have seen some footage...anything is possible in reality honestly because the vehicle is only as effective as its crew! If the gunners are experienced enough they could totally achieve mobility kills on MBTs by taking tracks out. Or even cause damage to the barrel.
@@RoneK_Actual From the footage, it appears they set off the smoke dischargers on the T-90, damaged the optics, possibly damaged the turret rotation mechanism (or wounded the gunner).
And from the pictures claimed to be of the tank at a later time, it seems to also have scraped off most of the ERA on it.
Not to mention that the constant noise inside must have been horrible for the crew.
@@Oddball_E8it seems like they also got a mobility kill. The tank seemed to be uncontrollable by the end.
one thing I've noticed a lot recently even in higher tiers is people being almost senseless, they never listen to other tanks nearby to figure out where the enemy might be and always just keep going down the except same path, getting the first shot in is like the holy grail of a tank gunner so not being seen or heard is so important
I like waiting for others to get impatient. Then they go into bad spots which makes them easy kills!
The brain of people at top tier have rotten
Bro thank you for curing my skill issue.... W video 🔥🔥🔥
We have all been there pal! Keep trying to get better!
Some actually great and new tips! Usually with these videos it's all the same, but you changed a couple of them with great input and added some new cool stuff. Great video!
Thanks so much for the awesome comment!
Good stuff. I try to also use the shadows from buildings to hide from CAS, or a light and shadow combination that will break up their sight picture. Really, I'd prefer no-CAS servers - I mean, we have no infantry, and that can make a big difference, especially in MOUT.
I know right! I'm constantly surprised at how many Warthunder toobers don't take advantage of shadows in this game.
For real! In my camo video a while back I talked about how shadow is one of the key fundamentals of camouflage and just staying alive. Thanks for the comments guys!
ULQ: 🤨
As a CAS pilot I can confirm, that this helps a LOT, given you are not in a Powerpositon, you will very rearly get CAS'd, so yeah, works pretty well.
Sensational video! was aware of sll and skylining, but dead zone/route planning are concepts i hadn't even thought about! Has had a noticeable impact on my gameplay.
Bro I was like five minutes from writing off WT and uninstalling before I found your guides. Keep up the great work mang
That's awesome! Thanks for that!
6:42 LMAO i`m so condicioned to look at further ranges that i didn`t even bothered to look closer bc of the engine sound that i always hear u got me there mate
It is very refreshing to see someone talking about fundamentals like this. I considered making a video on this topic 2-3 years ago when I started getting really into War Thunder and I was around 1-2k hours. I am now at 7k with most tech trees unlocked or spaded when it comes to ground and air is well on the way to that too. The only other topic I have not seen anyone talk about when it comes to movement fundamentals is map pacing and adjustments to said pacing based on BR. Most games you will meet the enemy team at specific locations that are either meta or common pathways which is the way the game is designed based on player habits and Gaijin having suggestive gameplay elements. Take the transition of 8.0 - 9.0 for example. Mobility skyrockets between 8.0-9.0 and the armour meta arguably starts to disappear. While all BRs have their popular and meta vehicles, understanding what you can and cant see based on the uptier/downtier and the max BR of the match helps me decide where I will go on the map. The first thing I do every game after seeing the BR of the match is check the nations I am fighting and play around that fact. Back when the Centuaro was 8.0 and I was playing 7.0 US I had to completely change my gameplan if I was against Italy because I knew the map pacing had the potential to be completely different and the mobility of my enemy was far superior to mine. I had the chance to run into said Centauros at completely unexpected spots due to their ability to cross the map in a faster time to what I was used to. Everyone will have preferred sides to maps but truly understanding how your side of the map will play out based on the set parameters you can account for every game makes gameplay so much more fun when you can guess what the enemy will be doing before they have even realised themselves.
Thanks for the comment! And you're totally right. The other day I got killed my an XM1 in my cheese wedge on El Alamein cause he got to a spot where I had no idea you could get to so fast.
This was a fantastic video man! Some really good tips in here.
Thanks for kind comment!
A lot of good info in the video for newer or mid-skill players. I've been playing since 2015 and pretty much agree with everything you've said here. Movement and how you do it is absolutely critical in this game. The amount of times in matches when I see people just press W and go straight for a point only to die over and over is mind boggling to me. As for the CAS tips... I really think minimizing yourself to it just isn't enough. Planes and helicopters are just too much of a threat currently to properly deal with for most players, even long time ones like me.
Like I said in the video, there is no way to completely eliminate the threat of CAS, just do your best to minimize it.
I've played War Thunder (on and off) since it first came out (with just planes), and you have some good advice here. Even more important in Realistic mode.
I would add that, in appropriate circumstances, I also turn off my engine (in what you call dead space), and an approaching enemy can't hear me at all.
I am pleasantly surprised that someone brought up this topic. I play on the BMD-4 at 11.3 in a setup with the Su-25T, Mig-27K and Ka-50. The BMD-4 shows itself very well, although it is at 9.0. I just do not expose myself to enemy fire, but I do flank detours and reconnaissance. I easily make 4+ kills and assist the team with scouting(except for playing on aircrafts and other armored vehicles.). It's all thanks to moving through the folds of the terrain and moving along unpopular routes on the map if possible (I've been playing since 2019 and I know the maps well).
So almost any armored vehicle in the game can be turned into a frag-bringing one by following the tips from the video. Good luck!
Very well put together! It couldn’t have been said better!
I find myself using those strategies lately and my performance has improved significantly.
I’d add- play different types of vehicles, look the game from their perspective and perfect the strategy of implementation of your favourite tank.
this is so very useful, I have been trying to understand and learn to utilize position and movement on my own through trials and error for a long time now. What you said aligns with my understanding and in addition you brought good tactic that I haven't thought about. Thank you.
Glad it helped! Happy tanking!
Its crazy that i already use all of these skills in the games i play tarkov and warthunder. It's cool how it translats to reallife
Never thought I'd find such a relatable player. I was a 19K for 8 years and a lot translates too. Another huge fundamental that's drilled into us is berm drills. Find your target, range it, move up, fire, back up. That way, you're only visible for a few seconds, and the time you are visible, you're ready to fire. Instant subscriber.
Heck yeah! Thanks for the comment! If I do a defensive positioning tip video, I'll probably include berms drills in that.
@RoneK_Actual It really is hard sometimes to remember those fundamentals during a game, though. Sometimes, I stay up in the enfilade way too long after a shot or I don't realize I'm not actually in the defilade when scouting
@RoneK_Actual Another thing that bugs me is the difference from real world tanks to WT tanks is the sight. If you're using the actual GAS sight, if you can see the target, your gun tube is clear of any obstructions. In the game, you have to check in third person to see if you're actually clear despite using a manual sight like the GAS.
Its somehow rewarding to find a video that describes in depth what you've learned yourself through trial and error.
These are some really great and important tips! Really gave me a solid understanding of the things I've learned throughout the years and learned new things like silhouette. It's a lot more satisfying to apply these together with vehicle and br knowledge where you'd basically be able to predict where most people are
I love finding small channels making really good content
I appreciate that very much, thank you!
First off let me say thank you for your service, also again thank you for your service because as a colorblind history nerd with a decent understanding of tank combat, I enjoy learning from people with the real world experience and I will definitely be trying your tactics on my next matches
Thanks for the kind comment!
I've realized as I was watching that I've slowly over timed naturally started using most of the stuff you bring up in the video as I played more and more, it's great to see there's actual terms for this stuff so I can explain it better to friends who haven't figured this stuff out or are new to the game, I'll def be sharing this video with some of them as well, thank you for making this
Also, another good tip for CAS, especially in faster vehicles, is when you hear or see an aircraft coming in your general direction, pop smoke and change whatever direction you're moving, this will throw them off heavily, this is an actual real world tactic that works somewhat well in War Thunder, this is also a good way to defeat missiles that are manually guided like TOW missiles
Great set of tips! I would add use of shadows for concealment and turning off engine if waiting in ambush.
Also, when choosing a firing position - choose a cover and angle that allow you to see but not fire (or to fired upon), popping out to fire and back into cover.
Shadows are really great ways to lay ambushes!
Dang, witnessing this channel’s growth is crazy
Just found out your channel. I hope I can learn more information from you with a military background. This video is really unique in the sense that most youtubers say the most cliche tips when making videos trying to improve players. Yours really go in depth and they don't just give the viewers theory they show the viewer how such theory works when the viewer is trialed. Very entertaining stuff!
Thanks for the kind words! Only some of it translates because this is a video game but I try my best to explain what I can!
5:31 the trick to seeing a tank traveling in dead space is always to look for radio antenaes, .50 cals, or engine exhaust along the ridgelibe of hills with binoculars.
The puma crosses the bushes at 5:43, zoom into the screen and you can see it pretty easily. (Easily 1000 hours in WT, though I’m not level 100 yet I’m only level 78 lol)
(Bushes at near the center of the screen, leaning a little bit towards the right
I noticed this significantly as a new player to the game but was unable to effectively replicate it often enough. Sometimes I’d get nice angles and positioning but I wouldn’t be able to replicate that every time.
I'm supprised that I haven't seen anyone mention these more often. When I started WT I watched some old WW2 US Tanker training footage and got these points drilled in very early on.
The same fundamentals of warfare never change!
The "skill" I learned and helped me the most was the "Okay this is getting too hot I gotta back up" skill. Knowing when enough is enough is vital.
100% true, pick fights you can win.
Last thing I ever expected to hear from a War Thunder youtuber was "I was a 19D!" A buddy of mine who was also on Bradley's before coming to college also told me to never crest hills as you get painted against the sky really easily. Neither he nor I want to branch Armor sadly :( but I wouldn't be too mad if I did. Thanks for the awesome video!
Thanks for watching! Lol when I first started reading the comment I thinking you'd have to be a tanker or 11B to hate 19Ds...even though without us you'd run into the enemy blindly lol
@RoneK_Actual Ha! Love it. No, I'm just a lowly cadoodle and for now aviation my top choice...we'll see though! I've heard cav scout PL time is incredible 👀
It's a lot of fun! My platoon did our own thing half the time. We were attached to HHC so as long as we weren't messed up our company commander didn't bother us at all.
Aviation would be dope. I was at Bliss and they were constantly flying helos around.
This is super informative, especially for new players. I wish this video came out when I started. Took me hundreds of hours to get my movement down.
absolutely loved the CAS "talk". I excel at SPAA work sending many players back to the hangar using these exact tactics literally ambushing planes when they fly close enough to spring the trap on. Become a bldg extension; SLL; wait for them to fly nearby; Brrrp; type in ALL chat "Hangar is that way"; Rinse & repeat - you sir get a BIG like, Thank you
I will not join the "CAS" is toxic debate lol
oh I like the CAS as it adds layers to the depth of gameplay. And I certainly understand the players leaning into the "toxic" nature of CAS. I am opposed to it being removed. Also, not trying to set up a debate just adding to the great advice you give out@@RoneK_Actual-- LoL the "hangar is that way" bit is optional
I’m a scout as well and I always use what I know in WT. great video man
Great video and very helpful. I would love to see a video in this style that focus specifically on positioning. How to identify good and bad "spots", Where to drive and the start of the match, in general how to "read" the battle. I think these are skills that experienced players take forgranted, but a lot of players really struggle with that kind of stuff. I know that is huge topic, but a video that even just covers the basics would be amazing.
I'll have to take a look at that topic when I get a chance! Thanks for the comment!
i've been playing for years but seeing this, you gave me some things to think about when it comes to firing and maneuvering; thank you!
I started stopping and listening and it’s been working so well.
I was a Bradley Gunner as well. I use those skills that I learned in the Army. Thank you for your service and video. I was in 2/7 IN, 1-9 IN and in 1/9 Cav. A-22 Dirty Deuce out!!
2/37 AR courage conquers!
Very professionally done video Cav. Scout. Narration voice is clear and up-beat to inspire interest, good goin.
Army! I knew it. My father was army. I knew you had experience, to know about silhouettes on a ridgeline.
Hooah!
What an awesome video. Love that you bring TTPs that you learned in real life to this game, and happy to hear that some of them work!!!!
I also love how much hate CAS gets haha. I love CAS in ground RB.
You know what, I was getting highly frustrated playing this game cause I couldn’t hear anything, especially when playing the Abrams, although I think that’s also just part of the game. I knew I was lacking skill somewhere, I was just getting too frustrated playing the game to figure it out. This really explained what I was doing wrong for so long and couldn’t see. I will definitely be putting this to use tonight when I play. Thanks man, I really need this video
Glad it provided some insight. I know in my own case the more frustrated I get, the worse I play. So if I keep it cool, I can stay focused.
try decreasing your engine sound so your engine sound does not overlap with enemies engine if you havent done that if you dont hear any engine around you keep on using binoculars far away where you think someone is sniping you
Dude Ive been really struggling at tank battles always wanted to get better after playing lots of games for around 4 hours a day 😵💫 I know I need sleep when I get home from work lol. From others tips have helped but not help me improved and I just used your fundamentals with others which have greatly improved my chances at having good games. Thank you for your service aswell proud that you decided to take a role in the defense of our country 🇺🇸 Once again thank you for the tips you have earned my subscription!
Thank you for the kind words! Happy tanking!
After watching this ive played a few missions and noticed a DRAMATIC improvement in my combat abilities. Before, i was lucky to last 5 minutes before losing all 3 tanks. In my last mission i didnt die once and scored 5 kills! Thank you for this video
That's awesome! Glad it helped!
This vid is so underrated!!! I used your tips and I'm finally having fun playing ground rb. Thank you very much 🙏🏼
Glad to hear it!
Very cool tips! In German Tank scholl they teach you to drive like Water would flow, thats a pretty good explanation i guess.
Yup! Common tank tactic!
Nice video! while it probably won't improve my gameplay any more, I am glad to know that real world professionals have concurrent ideas.
Thanks for the comment!
Another brad gunner here, 11b tho. the grind to get the brad is no joke. good video bro
Yeah it kind of sucks in game but I still love it lol