Mary & George [True Story] - Life of King James l of England & His Male Courtiers | George Villiers

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  • @fabulouswomeninhistory
    @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Full documentary style video! In my research I found free books to read onine. Find the links in my community ► www.youtube.com/@fabulouswomeninhistory/community

    • @tundrawomansays694
      @tundrawomansays694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I haven’t checked into your hyperlink yet but I got a State Library Card and it’s great. I believe all states have these and it opens up a whole world of books, audiobooks etc. Best wishes to all!

    • @maxalberts2003
      @maxalberts2003 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The rules did not apply to him. The rules HE CREATED did not apply to him. When I read about these historical times, often using Shakespeare for reference, it would seem that the Royals behaved like the gods on Mount Olympus. Irrational, even mad behavior, neither "justified" nor rationalized, simply "happened" on a daily basis and no one seemed to pay any attention. Behavior without consequences. QUERY: Did the so-called "common people" simply accept their rulers' behavior and double standards prima facie? Did the people not perceive their rulers as human beings just like themselves? Obviously, Shakespeare did, and he reveled in it. Where was the "disconnect" in the minds of the common people? It's as if a big chunk of analytical , judgmental thought--or the capacity for it--was absent from the brains and minds of the common people. What explains this? It would also seem that the extreme primitiveness of their economy and the absence of science were also symptomatic of this specific type of retardation. What was the "X Factor"? The plague? I'm genuinely curious.

    • @julianpetkov8320
      @julianpetkov8320 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      After the death of Henry VIII, the Greek oligarchy orchestrated a silent coup and installed an anonymous man known as the "Virgin Queen" for obvious reasons - men can't give birth. Henry VIII is hated because he paid his loans to the Greek oligarchy by confiscating their properties. This is why they took over and created a fake dynasty of hired impostors subservient to them, to this day. This was the beginning of the "new" Greek Empire, euphemistically known as "the British".

    • @therealgodessisis
      @therealgodessisis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤢 his poor wife

    • @birmagustafsson5807
      @birmagustafsson5807 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Swedish King Charles XIV, imported from France 🇫🇷, as one of Napoleon's officers, was also gay/bi. We ran out of royalty after the scandalous last king died in exile.

  • @JoseighBlogs
    @JoseighBlogs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Wow! What a wonderful and comprehensively told story of King James 1st of England and of his court and courtiers with all the attendant courtly intrigues explored among players of the Jacobean court? Such a fascinating picture thoroughly explained of those times. Thank you 🙂

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for the positive feedback. Helps me to stay motivated😊

  • @pagemastrogiovanni9195
    @pagemastrogiovanni9195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    King James was gay in preference and bisexual in actions for reasons of the need for progeny to continue the lineage.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well - put 👍 Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @ElicLlewellyn
    @ElicLlewellyn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Very Well Done! I'm impressed! Very helpul in my own research.

  • @Greeklings
    @Greeklings 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    To everyone who keeps saying James was black...read a real history book! If you have no clue about the history of this time period and the real people involved then you have no idea what you're talking about. James I, King of England, aka James VI of Scotland, was white. His parents--Mary Queen of Scots and Lord Darnley--who were cousins--were white. Their parents were white. Their children were white.
    If you want to honor black people in history then actually honor black people in history, don't just make stuff up and get mad when anyone with any historical knowledge tells you the truth.
    On a kinder note, as usual, this channel is excellent!
    I legitimately feel sorry for James, especially when he was young. He had an absolutely terrible childhood and young adulthood--his mother was accused of ordering his father's murder, yet James was raised and brainwashed by the same men who plotted the murder of his father, the overthrow, imprisonment, and later execution of his mother because of the political and religious climate of the time. No wonder he was paranoid about witches, his tutors had really pulled a number on him. As soon as he found a father-figure or regent, the regent was murdered or kidnapped him. He was a pawn from day one. He thought becoming King of England would free him, but it only brought him another set of problems. He's so underrated! I don't think historians have given him a fair shake, when you look at his early life and the political context he was raised in, suddenly his behavior in the second portion of his life makes more sense. All the Stuarts are incredibly underrated and deserve more attention in non-fiction and fiction!

    • @Me-lc6bz
      @Me-lc6bz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly. Some of them are desperate to black wash white history cuz they feel insecure about their own... It makes me sad, with all the other real black beautiful history there is, and they choose to do this :(

    • @kathleenkayk
      @kathleenkayk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed! Thank you.

  • @dividends4retirement
    @dividends4retirement 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I just watched the first hour of the show and I have to say it looks like it's going to be a good one. I'll keep coming back to your video to keep track of things. Thanks.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait until you see the other episodes. This show really rocks!

  • @tundrawomansays694
    @tundrawomansays694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thanks so much. Your channel was a “stumbled on” for me and I’m really enjoying it. Much appreciated :-)

  • @howto4u705
    @howto4u705 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another great video. I appreciate the research and this video is topnotch! Keep it up and I'll keep coming back 👍👍

  • @MunchForWellness
    @MunchForWellness 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You did a good job on this. Excellent research. You must have a full production machine. I used to make videos for youtube and I know it takes a lot of work and dedication. Keep going. I like your channel.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It really does take a lot of work. I don't have a team (I do it all from research to the final product). It's just me and it took me 3 weeks with only 2 days off to make this video. Research on royals is tough what with everyone having the same name and the intermingling of royals marrying royals. But, I am a research nut and I like the creative part of making the visuals so thanks for your feedback. It is most helpful!

  • @LanaiHaselton
    @LanaiHaselton 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    One of my ancestors,Nicholas Felton was a bible translator and personal clergy to king James. Another one of my ancestors ,John Felton was the brother of Nicholas and the assassin of Villiers.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh wow. That's interesting! Thanks for sharing!

    • @hazelpearson7807
      @hazelpearson7807 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And?

    • @darrellwheeler2625
      @darrellwheeler2625 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It very fascinating that you can trace your ancestors so far back to be related to some of these people. I really enjoyed reading watching documentaries and movies doing those days. Iam like to know and learned everything about history it doesn't matter if it about Great Britain Royals Ancient Roman Egypt or even American History etc., Even though a lot things in history had a very ugly dark past were absolutely mean vile cruel barbaric racism slavery inhumane towards so many different people in all countries. But I just like to know everything I can about every country history.

    • @honeylacecookie
      @honeylacecookie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      By any chance is Mark Felton a relative of yours and these ancestors of yours

    • @elbisnopserton9052
      @elbisnopserton9052 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think he became the first lead guitarist for Bloodwin Pig in the mid sixties.

  • @teomac
    @teomac 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Well some Kings were bound to be homosexual, William III (of Orange) was also gay. The Royal Court probably didn’t care as long as he produced an heir and a spare.

    • @Laudon1228
      @Laudon1228 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      By all accounts Richard I, the Lionheart was gay as well.

  • @jldemed
    @jldemed 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Very good narrator. The research was thorough and well presented. I read The King’s Assassin which is a very good book. This video leaves nothing to be desired in relation to the book.

  • @Figgatella
    @Figgatella 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I would highly caution not to use television shows as a method of research. Movies take liberties with facts and stretch them to make them more interesting.

    • @annastinehammersdottir1290
      @annastinehammersdottir1290 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      'Mary and George' was a vehicle for sexy and shallow entertainment and the actor miscast as George Villiers was awful. Too bad because it is an interesting story all on its own, as is most of history.

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Although the facts speak for themselves...he was taking these men to bed with him and rewarding them with gifts. Had he been doing it to a woman everyone would have no problem believing it to be true. Isn't that strange?

    • @brandonrohrbaugh59
      @brandonrohrbaugh59 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those boys got stretched!!

  • @christopherevans2445
    @christopherevans2445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The series of the family has been great. His attacks on looking for the King went very back and forth. I king in what ever manner returned faith

  • @jeremiahmiller4010
    @jeremiahmiller4010 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    King James the6th/and the 1st was 6parts gay and 1part king. He was gay outwardly because he was king. He had power and riches so he lived slightly above society. But, He was sly as a fox and used politics and religion to manage public opinion/ the press. As the monarch does to this day...He was and still is the master hypocrite who s bible translation is used to persecute gays and all LGBTQ...people. Thank you for this documentary...

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You make a good point about the use of religion and politics for good PR while he lived and did what he wanted behind closed doors. Thanks for joining the conversation! P.S. You are welcome for the video. :)

  • @dalestaley5637
    @dalestaley5637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very well researched. I truly appreciate the completeness.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much. I am making longer video (even though they are very tough to make.) It's great to have your feedback on this.

    • @mavisemberson8737
      @mavisemberson8737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a TV entertainment not history. Scots will not like it even English who learned history at school will tell you it is entertainment .

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yet, the show is accurate in so many ways. Not so much about Mary Villiers but about James and his courtiers. Yes it is. About the sex? Hard to say- but the fact that he had coutiers that he favored and was intimate with (at least emotionally) is documented in historical records. Thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @AuntyKsTarot
    @AuntyKsTarot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    As a Queer woman I don’t care if King James was gay or bi. He was obsessed with witch hunting. He is also responsible for the King James Bible which was used to justify colonialism, hunting Women and homosexuals

    • @elainegoad9777
      @elainegoad9777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes. Also,there are at least 5000 translation errors in KJV Bible per Dr. Bart Erhman, chairman Theology Dept. UNC Chapel Hill

    • @AuntyKsTarot
      @AuntyKsTarot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@elainegoad9777 It all were errors some were on purpose - they held councils on it. Not that any of it was anything other than a story for Rome to co trial the masses

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never thought about that! I think it is time to expose him for the hypocrite that he was!! You know what they say, "If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.....it must be a duck"!!
      I believe he was bi when he was young but was gay after age 30. That is very common for lots of men that come out later in life. They always felt deep down they were gay but tried to convince themselves otherwise, forcing themselves not to believe it, or thinking they can conquer it...they get married young, have lots of kids....and eventually come out to their families saying they can no longer live that lie. Others stay in the closet and finds clandestine ways to fulfill those urges. In the old days they didn't have access to porn or gay porn. A lot of young people are coming out now as they seen gay porn on their phones and instantly recognize it, as what their desires are. Lots of societies like in India allowed for the 'third gender' until the British arrived and criminalized it. And it makes sense now when you consider that Hinduism does have both male and female Gods.

  • @tyronevincent1368
    @tyronevincent1368 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Homosexuality is old as the lava that sprews from volcanos

    • @watthaile2053
      @watthaile2053 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      And the glorious lava that the men themselves spewed.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You got that right!

    • @tyronevincent1368
      @tyronevincent1368 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@watthaile2053 Exactly! heterosexual status quo supported and barricaded by Abrahamic Chistendom, hás buried, continue to bury the major contributions good and bad of homosexual historical figures to name a few Julius César, Abraham Lincoln, Adolf Hitler, Michelangelo. The list is most likely longer, as King James l.

    • @p.gilfry5623
      @p.gilfry5623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@tyronevincent1368 oh please

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@tyronevincent1368 some of your examples (such as Julius Caesar) were bisexual rather than gay. He was known by his critics as "every woman's husband - and every man's wife"

  • @ServraghGiorsal
    @ServraghGiorsal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Is this the King James associated with the revision to the King James Bible.???

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yes, this is the same King James who translated the King James Version of the bible.

    • @JohnShields-df8od
      @JohnShields-df8od 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      James the sixth and first did not translate the bible from Latin to Old English but he did commission the translation by the clergy.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yep. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @sibusisombatha1846
      @sibusisombatha1846 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I wonder how all the theologians of the world felt about the KJV being named after a gay man?

    • @Mr--_--M
      @Mr--_--M 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Yep. Bring this up to devout Christians and watch them get awkward and dismissive.

  • @mmaphilosophy
    @mmaphilosophy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I read somewhere that King James was just into feminine men and women.
    No one ever mentions the fact he sometimes slept with ladys at the court because they concentrate on his relationships with men.
    The man was a post man and never the post box, ill just leave it like that 😂

    • @kekwayblaze3176
      @kekwayblaze3176 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He would be considered bisexual by today's standards, but his preference was for attractive young men and married in order to produce heirs to the throne.

  • @jhonwask
    @jhonwask 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is very interesting. How historically correct is it? It could become a fascinating soap-opera on television.

  • @lauramurdoch135
    @lauramurdoch135 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    There is a raging lack of understanding of cultural mores of the 16/17th century, for example, Queen Elizabeth of England slept with one of her female servants at night. Kissing a person of the same sex is, to this day, a European wide convention that does not reflect a person's sexuality and although the convention has fallen off in England, James was raised in Scotland which at that time identified far more with Europe than it did with England, a country which James viewed as a source of increased revenue. James was raised in the society of men exclusively all the way through his childhood and was more comfortable with men in general. That said, he enjoyed men more than women but his seven children reflect 1} his understanding that despite being a king by the divine right of God his principal task was to father heirs which he did with no small vigour and 2} he obviously derived more pleasure of congress with men more than women, he was probably more correctly bi-sexual, I don't believe that his own strict protestant upbringing would have allowed him to wholly embrace the notion of the homosexual side of his nature completely. This is a period of history when men wore just as much makeup as women and whose heels were as high, they were powdered and laced peacocks.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good commentary. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      James would have escaped comment had he only indulged in the conventional intimacies with his male favourites.
      Elizabeth was never accused of being lesbian merely for sharing a room or a bed with another woman.
      Then again she didn't exchange steamy letters with them or heap undeserved honours or power on them.
      She did with certain male favourites, so was accused of having affairs with them and not women. Unlike, say, Queen Christina of Sweden.

  • @patricialong5767
    @patricialong5767 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Court intrigues were really awful, and possibly may have included murder and poisonings. I would not have wanted to be a courtier!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, watch to the end to see where murder and poisonings happen. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You certainly walked a dangerous tightrope. Henry VIII and his predecessors showed how fast you could go from "best friend" to the chopping block. I never have seen the "glamour" of hanging out near the king. That's probably because I know a lot of history to see the reality. You could say its the price they pay for their 15 minutes of fame.

  • @josephinerimmer6888
    @josephinerimmer6888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was always of the impression that Scots Jimmy danced at both ends of the ballroom.

  • @Mr--_--M
    @Mr--_--M 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    They left this part out at Sabbath School.

    • @ankhpom9296
      @ankhpom9296 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What part is that?

  • @3dhealthsafety931
    @3dhealthsafety931 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You said James was in his 70's when he died, but he was born June 19, 1566 and died March 27, 1625. That makes him 59.

  • @markgrant73110
    @markgrant73110 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I think we'd call King James sexually fluid. The need for heirs was what drove him to Mary. But 5 heirs? That seems to indicate he liked it.

    • @Saer-s9u
      @Saer-s9u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we're they all his or his on paper? grinz 😊 that is why in British law children are referred to as 'children of the marriage'. Meaning, husband's quietly accepted a child may not be his biologically but the quiet agreement he would raise and pass name/title. DNA is where blood proof lies yet, even with that, if it is kept secret, the child of the marriage law applies to this day. Carried over into north American law to this day.

    • @nuthinmuffins5073
      @nuthinmuffins5073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marry is a verb, while Mary is the name of James’ mother (and a whole heck of a lot of other women throughout history).

  • @paulclayton745
    @paulclayton745 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really excellent presentation.

  • @jschultz88888
    @jschultz88888 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Enjoyed your presentation.
    I’d like to think they just loved each other which easily could have a romantic dalliance. Hard to separate those types of feelings. No need to.

  • @moustik31
    @moustik31 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Learning about Buckingham from Alexandre Dumas and learning about him via history books is a vastly different experience!

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of my favorite lines, from any movie, is in Shawshank when Andy is correcting the pronunciation of the name of author of 'The 3 Musketeers'!
      Absolutely hilarious! And in a movie without much hilarity in it!

  • @eaglerider-1
    @eaglerider-1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    He was James KING OF SCOTS, not “King of Scotland”. As his mother was Mary, Queen of Scots. It matters to this day to use the correct title, because in England sovereignty belongs to the crown and everyone was answerable to the wearer. In Scotland sovereignty belongs to the people, and the monarch is answerable to the people. One is a King of a land, the source of all power, “by divine appointment of God”. The other is only a king as long as his people consent to be ruled by him. James’s own mother, Mary Queen of Scots, was forced to abdicate in his favour after she lost the respect of those she ruled.
    That is why to this day there is no such thing as UK law. There is Scots law and English law which forever remain separate, because their fundamental bases and values are diametrically opposite and irreconcilable.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thank you for that additional information. It's always nice to hear from those who have first hand knowledge.

    • @eaglerider-1
      @eaglerider-1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory You're welcome. Thanks for the acknowledgement. All the best!

    • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
      @jacksimpson-rogers1069 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you. I have US citizenship, but still an identifiably Scots tongue. I do not like the phrase "United Kingdom". I prefer "Britain". Who on Earth wants to be UKKish?

    • @eaglerider-1
      @eaglerider-1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cato1684 Please stop trying to rewrite Scottish history to fit a foreign narrative. Read my post. The explanation is there. Our historic social structure was tribal, not feudal. The king was king of the people, not the geographic region they lived in.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @eaglerider11 I shadow banned @cato1684 so her post is not showing. I shadow ban most everyone (I let a few of the really stupid ones who are good for a laugh) slip by ) who is disrespectful to me and to others who are here for healthy debate & discourse. I thank you again for your contribution to this topic as I am always grateful to learn more when presented in a positive way as you have done.

  • @reuterromain1054
    @reuterromain1054 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    His Majesty was obviously bisexual, not gay.

  • @pamelahomeyer748
    @pamelahomeyer748 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    He was not gay he was bi and very happily married to his wife for many years

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because----- he had other outlets for his passions, perhaps????

    • @andrewtolmie4219
      @andrewtolmie4219 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pamelahomeyer748 married
      Married for many years, yes...but not 'happily'. He and Anne lived apart for the last decade and more of her life

  • @sevannam3573
    @sevannam3573 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This era should’ve been called “Californian-era”🎉

  • @TheRonnierate
    @TheRonnierate 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very insightful

  • @shortydee0379
    @shortydee0379 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    How can bestow titles in 1581 when Queen Elizabeth the first died in 1603🤔...I'm confused 😕

    • @adriabooth-tyler535
      @adriabooth-tyler535 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because they were Scottish titles. He was James VI of Scotland at age 18 months. So in 1581 he bestowed titles as the King of Scotland. He became King of England in 1603.

  • @PsulOrtiz
    @PsulOrtiz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's the old, 'I'm not gay but, come on, £20 IS £20!
    (Translation: I'm not gay but $20 is $20!!!)
    A line as old as the hills. But it is as relevant now as it was then!
    😂

    • @6140LIBRA
      @6140LIBRA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😆😆😆

  • @bokuphishp684
    @bokuphishp684 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Phillip Herbert, Earl of Montgomery seems to have suffered from PTSD from the forced grooming and SA he endured at the behest of the King. Explains his angry and hedonistic lifestyle as an adult, even with all the gifts of land and titles bestowed upon him.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's a great addition to this topic. Thanks for sharing!

  • @historychannelpodcasts
    @historychannelpodcasts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Superb video. I have already watched the entire series and I have to say that it was so fast paced and literally jumped all over the pace that I couldn't keep track of what was happening. Your video helped me make sense of all of it. Makes me want to go back and watch it again now that I have the history behind what was happening. I absolutely love the show. I couldn't get enough of the s*e*x scenes ( and I'm not even gay or a guy), Nicholas Galitzine is soooo beautiful. I couldn't keep my off him and it didn't even matter who he was bonking! THanks so much for your well researched and nicely done video!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad it helped you sort out the show. That's why I do this channel!

    • @mavisemberson8737
      @mavisemberson8737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Be careful! Don't get sucked into this way of life .

    • @watthaile2053
      @watthaile2053 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mavisemberson8737oh Lawd, don't turn into no Pre Vert. 😂

  • @robertwebb3546
    @robertwebb3546 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There’s a notion among Renaissance monarchs to see themselves as without sin or blame because they were chosen by God, and God would not choose a sinful person as monarch. Therefore, there was one set of rules for the monarch and one for everyone else.

  • @estondunn
    @estondunn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    A very informative video. Interesting to see then vs now point of view on sexuality. A modern interpretation could easily be seen as King James and his relations with his courtiers (especially George) would edge on bisexuality---both men were able to perform sexually with females and sire children, an act that a truly gay man would not be able to perform several times over to produce heirs.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the feedback and adding to the conversation!

    • @JohnShields-df8od
      @JohnShields-df8od 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is no way to prove that his " progeny" we're his. In other words, someone may have " had it in for him! "

    • @Jumpoable
      @Jumpoable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uh... I know gay men who have have sex with women & produced children. & especially during THAT time period these gay men would've been strongly suggested to beget heirs by societal norms, especially royalty.

  • @jadefamousartist5242
    @jadefamousartist5242 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi From The Sky 💫

  • @dontatme42
    @dontatme42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It’s scary when she spoke about the king’s lack of accountability and bad financial decisions I knew he was a Gemini. And surely enough I google and his birthday is June 19 😂😂😂😂

  • @crystalmarvin3665
    @crystalmarvin3665 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What I find interesting is he followed in his father’s footsteps even though he never had any influence from his father

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was genetic!

  • @NecessariusBalance
    @NecessariusBalance 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    2:17 Sounds like a jealousy. Didn't want his male lovers to have a wandering eye.

  • @nyreedix1719
    @nyreedix1719 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    King James in my opinion was bisexual

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I like in the show where they say bodies are just bodies. That would fit under the identity of fluid in today's terms. In a way, I don't think any of it is any more clear cut today than it was back then, for sure. Thanks for letting us know what you think. I like when my videos spark conversation about topics at hand. THanks again!

    • @dalestaley5637
      @dalestaley5637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      True

    • @jeromesullivan4015
      @jeromesullivan4015 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      No Shirt, Shearluck.🙄🫣🤭

    • @nyreedix1719
      @nyreedix1719 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Agree he fulfilled hiz duty by having off spring with his wife but preferred young attracted men more

    • @newtexan1
      @newtexan1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      He needed a father abd he he hated and envied women. Sad and Disgusting

  • @jeannieg1852
    @jeannieg1852 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    He obviously swung his royal pendulum both ways.

  • @kekwayblaze3176
    @kekwayblaze3176 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Well hung crew. That's how the Kings stable of well endowed attractive young men was described as in the series. Glad that the series isn't shying away from the lifestyle King James led and as King who would dare to criticize him without fear of being hanged?

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I am also glad that the series is not following the same old tripe of playing up a royal's virtues and ignoring the reality in which same sex love happens all the time and throughout history. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @tyronevincent1368
      @tyronevincent1368 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The same modus operandi of attractive male specimens are well documented during the Third Reich amongst Hitler's (Also closeted gay male) requirement of his SS henchmen. Male and physically attractive were prerequistes for their employment

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice addition to the conversation.

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup, sounds like a truely enlightened king, who led by example--- for once.
      Not edict!
      Much like dictators. If the dictator is good, kind, understanding---- what's the problem? They get things done, quickly and efficiently!
      If the dictator is a miserable, nasty, selfish, Neanderthal type---- life is going to be tough--- on everyone!
      Being a dictator isn't inheritently bad but how the role is realized and put into action determines how he is seen.
      King James was a very cool and interesting guy, way, way, way ahead of his time! And in so many ways!!! A modern, practical dude, marching to his own drummers!
      Bravo, king!!! Bravo!!!
      And down with troglodytes!!!!!!

  • @judithglasser3072
    @judithglasser3072 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Excellent presentation, really enjoyed the podcast. There is no doubt that King James was a homosexual, while attending to his his duties to provide heirs to continue the line of succession.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you like it and thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @ErinH-430
    @ErinH-430 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think King James was bisexual according to what we would “label” it today.

  • @frommargiewithlove8487
    @frommargiewithlove8487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    7 children could have been fathered by other men on his behalf

    • @iluop3623
      @iluop3623 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or he could have used a turkey baster

    • @kathleenkayk
      @kathleenkayk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Public record he was the father. Anne lamented that was the only times he paid attention to her and she felt neglected and jealous of his male "companions".

  • @christopherwinstanley1348
    @christopherwinstanley1348 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think in that day it wasn’t seen to be homosexaual/gays, but shinning a light from our day then the definition would be the same. There has always been a difference between the royal divide... However, he wasn't known for educating about social stigma.

  • @rednekokie
    @rednekokie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The idea of "homosexuality" in the 16th century was quite different from what is considered "homosexuality" in the 21st century. In fact, "homosexuality" was not even a known possibility. Sexual partners could be either sex, and not a great deal was thought about it other than just that -- a sexual partner.

    • @howlin.wolf.murphy
      @howlin.wolf.murphy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      16th century was peak HRE, Catholic/ Protestant Reformation, and the adoption of Pergatory as a place purification from the perversions of humanity before entrance into the heavens ….. not to mention directly after siphylis ran rampant throughout Europe a STD ….. I don’t think these whimps were even sleeping in the same beds anymore let alone being cool enuff to have a boyfriend and a wife lol !!!!!!

  • @lindaarrington9397
    @lindaarrington9397 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Oh he was definitely gay
    Maybe not so much as a young adult with his wife but he was def more gay
    This doesn't indicate bi-sexual. I had a friend that was gay that had women to hide it. He finally confessed all to me. I miss him
    Aids......😢

  • @madam472
    @madam472 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Funny how ppl think he wrote the Bible & his lifestyle was not in line

  • @sallyplus4
    @sallyplus4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Porphyria, has been connected to royals and not so much non royals has also been a diagnosis of inbreeding.

  • @brober
    @brober 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Fishing buddies.

    • @kekwayblaze3176
      @kekwayblaze3176 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But they only fished in a bed.

  • @DarenGilmour
    @DarenGilmour 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    53:28 King James 1st was 58yrs old when he died not 70

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You know it is such a funny thing (to me) that I had an intuition that 70 years old was not right but when I make the videos, I get into production mode and have to keep going with finding the right pictures and stock video and recording the voice over for the script(and in this case, having to research so many different historical figures) that I don't always take the time to listen to my intuition. Of course, it catches up with me as this did. Thank you for the correction.

  • @cleanpaws4805
    @cleanpaws4805 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    James, the first was not 70 when he died. He was 58.

  • @BavonWW
    @BavonWW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I trust you are being sarcastic?
    If not please remember that this was a good few thousand years after Egypt's heyday. There is an ocean of pictures and writings to confirm that he was a
    not very attractive Scotsman.

    • @Saer-s9u
      @Saer-s9u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Queen Scota 😉

  • @keithhaley6477
    @keithhaley6477 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If homophobia was as big back then it is now. I can only view it as James longing for male companionship. Nothing really shows that any of the men displayed real gay emotions other than romantic words that were typical of educated men of that age.

    • @stischer47
      @stischer47 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah yes, they were just "good" friends.

    • @tonyinuae
      @tonyinuae 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      'My sweet wife'? Really?

  • @mytrp7616
    @mytrp7616 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wowww what is the point of commenting when u are empty, ignorant & hateful? Thank you OP for this wonderful documentary! It was well researched & well informed. Of the droves of ignorant homophobic zealots here, there are still open minded educated people who appreciate some good history. To me it made me think Wow not only women slept their way to the top! In the end we are all equal hehe. Bless ya!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @mytrp7616 Thank you for the positive feedback and commentary on the comments. This topic is a hot one for sure!

  • @user-ey4rc5tu4t
    @user-ey4rc5tu4t 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Should be titled, “King James, the Gay King”

  • @lilchi721
    @lilchi721 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Probably gay but he still managed to do his royal duties in producing an heir and a spare among other children that he could pawn off to other royal houses.

    • @garthpetzer6487
      @garthpetzer6487 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably Gay? " In Elizabeth we had a King, in James we have a Queen" was common parlance. He was known Queen Jimmy.

  • @Laudon1228
    @Laudon1228 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Regarding King James treatise against sodomy, it wasn’t necessarily hypocrisy.
    Sodomy is anal sex, whether between two men or a man and a woman. The Bible condemns both. There is a presumption among straight people that male same sex relations ultimately involve anal penetration. This is far from the case. I have known gay men who have never and would never find even the idea of anal sex arousing. I’ve had gay friends who prefer not to engage even in oral sex.
    Is there any reference, either in King James letters and writings, or those of his favorites, that his sexual relations with them included penetrative sex?
    King James I could, in taking literally the letter of the Biblical condemnation of “a man who lies with another man _as with a woman_” as referring to penetration specifically, not necessarily other forms of intimate relations. Given that, King James I could, in absolute earnest, have written the treatise condemning sodomy without hypocrisy.

    • @williamf4544
      @williamf4544 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just said the same thing

    • @Consrignrant
      @Consrignrant 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sodomy is any non-procreative sexual behaviour or sex with animals.

    • @tom27jr
      @tom27jr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Consrignrantin your day but not in the 1600s

    • @Laudon1228
      @Laudon1228 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williamf4544 Didn’t see it. I’ll look for it. 😀

  • @MikeHunt-c5p
    @MikeHunt-c5p 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A glimpse of court leotards was all it took

  • @yves2694
    @yves2694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is totally without any understanding of British history or context . Reeling off some names is meaningless. Adding in modern interpretation is ridiculous as so much is left out . Needs to go way back in European society studies.

  • @davidbrathwaite5779
    @davidbrathwaite5779 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    By the way, this is the same King James of Bible commissioning fame. He also banned the words tyrant and tyranny from the translation of the Bible because he knew he was a tyrant.

    • @BavonWW
      @BavonWW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @davidbraithewaite5779
      That sounds apocryphal to me. Sources please.

  • @andyvanm1
    @andyvanm1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    King James l was married at 23 and fathered 8 children with his wife,they remained married until her death.

  • @kwpctek9190
    @kwpctek9190 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fallacy of present-ism. This is put to rest over at "King James Bible Research Council" and BTW, King Henry 8th was so fearful for his life he always slept in bed with his body guards while his supposed wife was in another castle. James stayed in the same castle and wrote love letters to his wife. Try giving us a comparison with prevailing customs of that epoch.

  • @martinisherwood2854
    @martinisherwood2854 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is known to this day as the Crown can do no long and the King James's father was gay

  • @GARdotETH
    @GARdotETH หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What I got from this video, is that there was a lot of bumming going on back in the day.....I think I'd have fit right in 👀

  • @johnandmarylouwilde7882
    @johnandmarylouwilde7882 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Tricolor flying in Bourbon France? Come on.

  • @PsulOrtiz
    @PsulOrtiz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The English gay king!!!
    WHAT!!! ANOTHER ONE!!!?????
    Makes you wonder just how 'the line' could keep going, without backing up some!
    Or was that the whole point? To back up, enough, to make it all work?
    Somehow or other!

  • @nuthinmuffins5073
    @nuthinmuffins5073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    19:05 - Now that’s what I call a lucky break!

  • @MiaMonique
    @MiaMonique 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Sound like P. Diddy and Usher, Beiber and the rest.

  • @deanvrabl
    @deanvrabl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ive hears that James was actually gay, didnt bathe often, smelled, was lazy and not very much of a king

    • @phoenixLeoRising333
      @phoenixLeoRising333 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All I could think about was the stench from the lack of bathing eww! Lol

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Damn it seems every king of europe had a boy lover, so incredibly obvious too.

    • @javieroliveras344
      @javieroliveras344 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Who didn't?

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So????
      And amazingly, civilization made it through!!! Well, Hurray!!!!
      Seems the kings were on to something, as in enjoying ALL that life has to offer, no matter from whence it came!
      Life is a smorgasbord-buffet with 99% of the folks starving to death because they don't want to try something new to them. 'It looks yucky!'
      Whatever!
      When I climb into my coffin I'm going to have a few bumps, bruises and scars! Might even be missing a few bits and pieces. Who cares!!!?? I want to see as much as I can, and to live life as fully as I can. Not sit in the same job, no matter how exciting or boring, or in the same pile of bricks and lumber for 60 years, looking out the window at ????.
      Not for me!
      I might be 'over the hill'. That's fine! Because 'I'm picking up speed' as i go!!!
      Go live your life, and grab with both hands!!! (Just not like trump does! Or Weinstein, either!!! UGH!!!!! Just UGH!!!)

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PsulOrtizhow dare you say that about our Orange Jesus who is selling King James' Bibles! 😅 Orange Jesus was busy with a porn star and a playboy bunny while his wife was home nursing his son. And now he screams about being kept from attending this same son's graduation!!! We love our Orange Jesus because we are just like him!

  • @julietteangeli
    @julietteangeli 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A series about Frances Coke would also be really interesting.

  • @mordechaiczellak2358
    @mordechaiczellak2358 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    No, these historical characters can't be considered gay. They had relations with women,children,etc. It was some kind of bisexuality

    • @Hrossey
      @Hrossey หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Aye cause a man who pumps other men isn’t gay. Good God what the hell happened to common sense.
      “Bisexual” 😅

    • @tonyinuae
      @tonyinuae 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Hrossey Lots of men who pump women also pump men, or are pumped - It's called being bisexual

  • @Dr_JSH
    @Dr_JSH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:10 "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." 😉
    - Shakespeare

  • @martinisherwood2854
    @martinisherwood2854 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The King or Queen can still do no wrong, his father was gay.

    • @CarniFitMe
      @CarniFitMe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly

  • @derekhart3308
    @derekhart3308 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love is love

  • @sabrinanascimento5248
    @sabrinanascimento5248 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Did anyone remember King Ludwig from Bavaria ?😂

  • @HelenePapageorge
    @HelenePapageorge 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'm not certain if a Monarch, who since Henry the Vlll, was head of the Church of England, would be subject to the same rules or lables as a commoner or Peasant class. Monarch's then were typically "above the rules" since they made them. Still I can understand why the King would take on male courtiers. IT was certainly an expedient way of avoiding illegitimate children and preserve the rights and privileges of the Monarch's true heirs and didn't disrupt the line of succession. Since those marriages were typically arranged; I think, who cares really what their orientation really is anyway. It was kind of part of the whole scene. Cheers from NYC!!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In a way, I agree with "what their orientation really is" but since it is still today, not normalized...well, then we will continue talk about it for sure. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @rdh53
      @rdh53 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were numerous courts with varying rules of procedure, jurisdiction, standards of evidence and exemptions to members of various classes. Often, the jurisdiction of the varying courts overlapped. The church had ecclesiastical courts which often claimed parallel jurisdiction in certain criminal offenses.
      All of this is to say that some people are more equal than others. In general, peasants were cannon fodder and had the status of cattle. Criminal laws applied to the common rabble. Titled nobility and personages of rank and wealth ranked above sheriffs and thus were, for practical purposes, exempt from being charged or arrested as their conduct was unlikely to be detected or reported. Being appointed by the monarch, sheriffs understood the risks of ruffling feathers.

  • @dennis-qu7bs
    @dennis-qu7bs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seems like the court was one big circle jerk.

  • @simplygem8449
    @simplygem8449 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A bunch of weirdos And there were also children, I bet. These behaviors spilled into other countries ..

  • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
    @jacksimpson-rogers1069 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It was her father's fault that she "had no successor". A virgin queen is as useless in that respect as a homosexual king.
    But James VI *_King of the Scots_* did indeed become an Englishman when as King of England he demanded also to be Head of the Church of England, as the bullying Henry VIII had made himself. England was dead lucky that the first husband of James's mother Mary, died before she produced an heir to the French throne.

    • @meemurthelemur4811
      @meemurthelemur4811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Henry VIII never expected Elizabeth to become queen. He had Edward to succeed him, whom he fully expected to have children. He had no way to forsee that Edward would die young. Elizabeth was a distant and very unlikely 3rd in line for the throne. All that aside tho, Elizabeth was betrothed twice as a child, but Henry broke the first betrothal and the 2nd boy died young. The supposition that it was Henry's fault Elizabeth never married is unfounded. Plus all of her advisors pressed relentlessly for her to marry once she took the throne, parading endless suitors before her, all of which she turned down.

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@meemurthelemur4811----smart lady! Why share power with a woman hating philistine!
      Studs are dime a dozen! Just look around you!

    • @alleyneT
      @alleyneT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@PsulOrtiznot just smart, Elizabeth was brilliant. She knew her fate should she marry at a time when men were openly hostile to women. Elizabeth was a capable leader who gave her people decades of stability. The unpopular reign of James made the British long for their queen and her Golden Age.

    • @denisemoore6134
      @denisemoore6134 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@meemurthelemur4811We know.

  • @zoeycharlottetaylor1438
    @zoeycharlottetaylor1438 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Should've mentioned he loved high heels too

    • @tonybezanson9625
      @tonybezanson9625 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That was the style back then. Men wore them as they fit into stirrups on saddles. Women eventually started wearing them, and it soon came out of fashion

  • @amandab.recondwith8006
    @amandab.recondwith8006 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When kings held ultimate power over other people, homosexuality and heterosexuality were simply not recognized as such. Sex did not garner the knowledge or importance we shackle ourselves with today. When you are a being chosen by God, everything you do is proper and excusable. In the 16th and 17th centuries men dressed and strutted like peacocks, and sexual intercourse was endemic. We modern people have dissected and labeled everything from the atom to the galaxies. Unfortunately, we have also categorized sexual identities that didn't factor in that time period. And as far as the lowly peasant was concerned? It is no accident that bestiality was a common accusation in rural courts. Nothing was judged as evil by the lowest class since they were undocumented nobodies and did what they wanted as long as it offered an hour of physical relief from their short dreary lives.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for that enlightened commentary and thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @ankhpom9296
    @ankhpom9296 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can there be a video of the descendants?

  • @reginagolden3291
    @reginagolden3291 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You must understand in the 1500 this was common practice, women was mostly used to have babies, mostly males so they can be heir to the throne.

  • @cherryedwards8117
    @cherryedwards8117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hypocrite Royal

  • @AnyaTraveling
    @AnyaTraveling 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This person also rewrote the holy bible and renamed it The King James Bible. What a croc! It is Blasphemy.

    • @verenamaharajah6082
      @verenamaharajah6082 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m sorry but you are very much mistaken. The Bible was translated from the Hebrew, Greek and then Latin into English by scholars and then presented to King James for his approval and permission to print and distribute. Nothing more. You can check these facts yourself.

  • @janaiello722
    @janaiello722 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Totally gay… he could have any aged man for companionship. He chose pretty fancy pants boys.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @liivikasaarman995
      @liivikasaarman995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Loved men but as a husband he fathered 8 children. Maybe bisexual or adored his favourites without actual sex.

    • @Trouble_Bubble36
      @Trouble_Bubble36 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@liivikasaarman995 We’re you there?

  • @onagaali2024
    @onagaali2024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What did Queen Anne of Denmark think of all this??🤔🤫🧐🙄

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We know that queen anne was as concerned about the scottish courtiers as was parliament but I did not find any valid research that indicated she was okay with the kings attachment to his prime favorites per se. I am going to do a video on her and will dig into this question more so thanks for asking. Stay tuned for my video and thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @onagaali2024
      @onagaali2024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory I'm pretty sure even though she likely kept it to herself, if she did,she couldn't have been any less disappointed about his immoral behavior than Queen Isabella of France did 3 centuries earlier with the same behavior her husband Edward II was doing with Piers Galveston and Hugh Despenser the younger.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, this story is as old as civilization.

    • @onagaali2024
      @onagaali2024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fabulouswomeninhistory she couldn't have been comfortable with it.

    • @semiramisrosarot
      @semiramisrosarot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@onagaali2024the comparison might not be as apt as it might seem.
      Edward II foolishly let his favourites upstage the queen - in public. James was much more circumspect when it came to his queen. He was older when he let his favourites rule the court. His marriage began with him being publicly concerned about 'witches threatening their marriage'.
      What I mean to say is that both marriages where different from each other - and thusly the assumed reactions of the respective queen towards their husband's male lovers. Edward flaunted his lovers and humiliated his queen (and his barons) in public. Plus, Isabella was a proud and status-conscious princess from France. She would have detested Edward's behaviour towards her and his nobility. Immoral or otherwise. Her lover was executed by her son because Mortimer behaved way above his station and undermined Edward III's power.
      Edward II is still known as a weak king because he let his favourites rule the court.
      James I/VI, however, is not.
      We know what Isabella did against her husband, Anne, however, supported her husband in his position as ruler.

  • @lukitasmol10
    @lukitasmol10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why would George poison him, if HE was what was holding George into power? He actually woulld have more power with James than Charles

  • @MikeHunt-c5p
    @MikeHunt-c5p 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It sounds like he became James and Jane simultaneously

  • @craigs1969
    @craigs1969 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So what. Would not surprise me. His father was bisexual too. Darnley and Rizzoo...

    • @tonyinuae
      @tonyinuae 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      His father may well have been more gay than bi, in fact

  • @WarrioroftheAges
    @WarrioroftheAges 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love a good historical drama as much as anyone. Never thought of myself as a prude as I’m not.
    Found myself fast forwarding through at the least 3-4 extremely explicit same sex both sex scenes in each episode. Having missed 3/4 of each episode thus far haven’t a clue what else happened at this point. Endless to say
    the art of suggestion would’ve went a really long way, if they had bothered to use it.

    • @CollectiveWesterner
      @CollectiveWesterner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Personal maturity and an average level of sophistication are all that is required. It is nothing to 'clutch the pearls' about.