Why Does Forza Horizon 5 Feel So Dead?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- From the Sparsely Populated Map to the Creepy Autoshow - Here are 8 Reasons Why Horizon 5 Doesn't Feel Alive...
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‣ Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
0:42 - Muffled Autoshow
1:45 - Sparse Map
2:41 - No Modern City
3:42 - Lack of Pedestrians
4:42 - Traffic Cars
5:41 - Public Transport
6:39 - Character Interactions
7:29 - Old Fashioned Map
8:35 - Outro
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∙ "Wii Shop Channel Theme" | • Nintendo Wii - Shop Ch...
∙ "Hangman (End Instrumental)” by Dave | • Video
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it feels dead because you practically get everything at the start and there's no progression
I know I got the amg one after less then an hour whereas in fh3 I haven’t gotten the centiario yet
They should make it like the Hot Wheels map...you start with D class cars and work your way up tu X class
Yeah I agree like I know you start off a superstar from fh4 but I would much rather earn it. I'm not even joking I got gifted a divo and a pagani the first 10 minutes of playing
Sometimes I don’t mind getting what I want right away because most of us have lives and don’t have hours to spend everyday playing.
Exactly!! Thats exactly what i tell people word for word🤣
Another important point to mention: the nights lasts way too little.
It always bothers me
At the very least next update will bring extended night time cycle
This is so true, the map looks so good at night and it's fun to drive with others at night.
@@TC7-Thecomplex7 tell me about it, at the same time it makes me wish that they used the second expansion for modern city instead of rally 2.0
@@TheHeisenBuldge i hope so, i timed how long the night cycle lasts and it was around only one or two songs ☠️ like wtf
@@TheHeisenBuldge isn’t it only temporary for the next series
Pedestrians would make such a big difference to the game’s vibe, all of the houses out in the wilds would be so much better if they just had a couple sitting on the porch or something
yeah like fh3
There do.
wtf
@@thequestbroI haven't seen hardly any NPC's in the big city. It's boring af
Would be wild if you could get out of your car. Heck, even a mode where you can walk around the house you just spent 7 Million credits on and maybe play some mini games.
there just needs to be more interaction with the community. there's no other way to go about it. they're gonna fall out of favor if we continuously get disappointed like that
We've been trying to get T10/PG to listen to us since FH4, lol. Some big wig shoved community suggestions down an elevator shaft then and it's been in free fall ever since. Manteo and the other mods act like they're listening, but nowadays they're just there to blabber and enforce rules. This downfall started when the woke movement hit FH4 during the "notorious iconography" thing. Ever since then, FH4 crashed and burned. FH5 on the other hand launched as a clown festival. I didn't buy FH5 because I don't support genius dev team leads who don't have the balls to speak up.
EDIT: The game also started leaning towards toddler mode with the Hot Wheels DLC in FH3. Then even more so with the LEGO thing in FH4. I mean, when I was a kid playing FM2 I didn't want to race in a toy car on plastic roads. I wanted to race in a Murcie on a real race track, lol. Maybe kids nowadays want otherwise, idk. Doesn't seem like the demographic has changed much from then until now, though.
@@pragmadev.478 yeah that's probably my biggest issue with the horizon series as of late. it's just entirely too childish, especially with the dlc's. games exist that execute those ideas better, mainly hot wheels unleashed and any of the lego games on nintendo ds. it's so much wasted potential doing dlc's that are pretty much worse renditions of games that already exist
@@scenebabe06 Fr, like I used to play LEGO Racers 1 and 2 wayyy back, but I played those because I wanted to race LEGO cars. Used to play Hot Wheels Velocity X and STT. Why? Because I wanted fantasy cars and tracks. Forza gave a nice breakaway from that.
Lest we forget the deal with Donut Media. It kind of parallels the Top Gear connection of the Motorsport games, but not really. Idk what the hell PG was thinking. They're not Hoonigan. Those clowns were decent in the first half year they made content here on YT, but then they started getting sponsors and became sellout central, sh**ting out content just for the sake of getting a new video out to maximize views. After seeing PG go full Ubisoft mode with that, I don't plan on any Forza game releasing without pretentious connections anytime soon, lol.
They're not going to listen if 13 year olds keep gawking at the graphics and buying the games.
Would be cool if we could see planes and helicopters flying around the map...and let the volcano get active once a while..a game mode of "aviod the lava flow" would be cool too
The Horizon plane does fly occasionally around the map, but it's very rare to come by - And yeah having the volcano randomly explode would seriously be cool
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@@YuwanThayakaran I've never seen that plane bruh😅 but I meant like constant flying around at certain parts of the map...I think the game should have an active airport too...planes flying in and out you know...flying across the sky
@@TazGaming141 the best places to see it are the castle and very left of the motorway
@@Max_HP_ the moterway?
I feel like you don’t even know Horizon is a music festival anymore
Atleast the eventlab community is keeping the game alive with custom maps
I think you can sum it up quite simply. The biggest problem with Horizon 5 is the atmosphere. The game doesn't have any. That's why the game feels so dead.
For me there are three main reasons why I think FH in general is feeling dead after a while
1: As you mentioned, the traffic should be way smarter and there should be a lot more traffic so you can have fun trying to drive as fast as possible through it.
2: You get everything way to fast. You have to play like 5-10 Hrs max to get so much money that you can buy mostly all cars and tune them. It would be way funnier if you had to race races to earn upgrades for cars and so on.
3: Exterior tuning. If we had way more different exterior tunings at every car it would be way more interesting and fun to make car meets.
I actually prefer FH4 over FH5 purely for the map! Driving around in FH4 feels and looks so much better in my opinion. I play mostly on a wheel setup with h-pattern and clutch, so I really enjoy cruising. One of the biggest things missing from FH5 for cruising is more areas where you can park!
I actually had to start FH4 all over again, and I'm doing it with no HUD and 125% difficulty on my wheel setup, using the GPS voice to find my way around - it's such a great way to get immersed in the game again. 💯
I definitely think all the Horizon's could do with more life in the world, such as pedestrians (as you mentioned), more wildlife and other forms of transport like planes flying around, maybe more traffic in certain areas? And 100% on traffic having more intelligence - they should be more aware of the players!
If you have played the original "The Crew" game, they had a bit of that happening and it bought some life to the game world. I remember seeing military jets and helicopters when you were close to military bases, huge planes landing and taking off near the airport, wildlife, police, etc. Things like that, make all the difference...
Yep
They have a big enough map for road trips like in fh2 so there's no reason to not have them
To me the original Forza horizon was perfect in terms of story, interaction and everything, a revamped Forza horizon Colorado, with the new cars, physics, and off road and water would be the perfect game
literally
Map was kind of boring though. 4 and 5 have more realistic maps, but 1 wasn't really a realistic representation of Colorado IMO. It looked like Colorado but didn't have the recognizable places like Edinburgh in 4.
@@Wft-bu5zc yea, I think that was them testing the waters, but an updated Colorado map with the expansiveness of fh5 and all the off road and water availability would be awsome
@@Wft-bu5zc All of FH1's roads were fun and memorable, you definitely can't say that about any of the other installments (maybe FH2). As a Coloradan, the locations were clearly fake, but it felt like they definitely fit the look and vibe of towns I've been to... In fact I almost prefer locations being fictitious, since the roads can be as fun as the devs want them to be
If they made night long and did underglow that alone would make it better
What i love about the first Horizon is that you HAVE to use the roads. I think the roads in Fh3/4/5 are way too wide, straight and you can just fly across the whole map. No challenge no fun
I really miss the highway drag races we had in FH4. It was also great to see huge convoys of players driving around and car shows
I just realized that's what i miss the most about fh4.. There were certain fun locations where you were almost guaranteed to meet other players at any time,it made the game feel a little more alive for sure
At least in 4 one thing that added a lot of atmosphere and "liveliness" was that the seasons actually made a huge visual difference. I feel like they swung too far in the opposite direction after people complained about winter and now the seasons seem to barely change anything in terms of visuals. Going from the very green summer to the yellow and orange fall felt great, even if the only thing that really changed in terms of gameplay is a couple of puddles. That also helped set it apart from the other Horizon games, despite the once again very, very similar gameplay. And the previous expansions were a very different kind of atmosphere to the main map, like the snow island in 3 compared to the main map full of deserts, jungles, palm trees and sunshine, and then there's the rally expansion in 5 which is just going to be... more of the same as the main map.
Game (apart from festival) feels like march 2020
I think that something we could potentially see in the future horizon games is where you can go on a bridge to another part of the map, for example if you look at fh4 map you can see manny bridges leaving and it would be so cool to be able to drive on them
That's because the ones in Horizon 4 are the Fourth Road and Rail bridge
I actually started playing horizon 1 and honestly It's the best horizon I've played so far. It has actually a storylike progression.
Yeah forza games used to have the classic band progression and a story where u had to work ur way to the top forza games nowadays don't have a story
It still is the best Horizon game to me. Sure, the graphics arent the best, the map isnt large by today's standards (it still looks and feels great tho), the car list is relatively small (even then it contains a lot of classics and iconic cars) but other than that it is perfect. There you feel like you are part of the festival, not like it is just an excuse of a background, and actually having progression and rivals was a great thing that should have stayed
One of the great things about the Lego expansion in FH4 was that the Airport wasn’t abandoned, and i honestly liked that, it made the map feel more alive.
for me its mainly the car sounds that don't work
they are a huge improvement from previous games but the quality of them make the cars feel like some sort of toys, especially when you rev them out
it would be better if they sounded more like those in asseto corsa
The sparse map feels like a byproduct of the map being designed with The Eliminator in mind.
0:42 mate, the autoshow actually plays music, well only if you put radio on, so your safe bet to show it on YT is by playing streamer radio
Very good video, thank you!
I hear music in the auto show. U do have menu music on, right?
In Horizon 6 They need to have a better autoshow, pedestrains on the sidewalks like in Horizon 3, Modern cities, people on the beach, and maybe a bigger festival. for me, that would make it more alive.
You must have something changed in your settings, because I can hear the music just fine when the autoshows, whether that be the main festival or the outposts. It's exactly the same as FH4, where the music sounds like it's coming from a boom box in the corner of the garage
This was also most of my complaints when the game came out, I felt bored of it within a week
I only played the game for the first month. Literally feels like horizon 4 with a new map.
the controll of the car change i cant understand it. i was playing on wheel with perfekt settings and over night everything was different , all cars feels like front gear can someone please explain did i do something wrong or was it the update???
There might not be any traffic due to limitations with the older Xboxes. Hopefully the next Horizon game is for newer generations cause its really keeping them from potential.
FH3 vibe is still unmatched
I finally got around to playing this game with my mates, but we can't use our own cars, only using the same car as them or borrowing their car if we don't own it, does any more experienced players have some troubleshooting steps for this? had no luck with stuff I have found online
If your doing a race find a blueprint with 'anything goes'. Itll let you use any car you want on it
What I did recently was turn on all the difficult settings: simulation steering, abs off, tcs off, etc. Honestly made the game a bit more fun
4:30 bro game was developed during Covid
I absolutely agree with every statement you have!
Subbed mate.
Gta just no crime problem solved
I like being able to walk around houses and go in a garage and look at all your cars and the customization is great
Test drive unlimited is a similar game to what you described, gta no crime
@Paul Edwards hm never heard of it but thxs sounds fun
@@DropXplode whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? lol
TDU and TDU2 is literally that. Surprised you never heard of it. And Test Drive Solar Crown comes out not too long from now... so be ready for more
they should have it so every once in a while you see a supercar or modified car every once in a while
Trying to see my friends who are in my convoy is difficult. I have to prompt a drag race and finish it with them. Only after the race we can all see each other in the same convoy. Annoying to have to do this all the time.
Honestly they should just chuck in a modern city with pedestrians and traffic like fh3 into the map. Theres already a lot of empty space and wouldnt take too much work as long as they dont make a whole other story for it.
The sandstorn wasn't the best but at least it would switch it up a bit
It would be cool if there was an option to have characters join you in events or random spawns to challenge you
Bro im Tunisian and i understand all your video because im Bad in English language but i really like your video lol ❤️🇹🇳
I planned to get the game, but got to try it out first when i got a 3 month (1 euro promotion) gamepass subscription. It was really sick, but after 3 months i didn't fell like buying it. I would love to playing it again, but not for full price at least.
For sure too little traffic in town.
i honestly forgot this game existed until now
I’m just waiting on TDU3 atp
'but the map is so big' and it's full of a whopping:
Nothing
The entire quarter of the map with the canyon is incredible dead
That’s what happens when the devs create the map to accommodate a lackluster game mode (Eliminator)
no in game voice chat either, despite the menu and driver lists suggesting it exists
FH3 had an amazing atmosphere with animals, a good airfield, a proper city fr, a good desert, a good jungle, car meet-ups!!!!, and especially good pedestrians (incredible map)(incredible game)
a massive thing for me i hear no-one mentioning is the roads. they are way too big and don't feel fun to drive on at all, the wideness plus how stable the camera is gives the game no sense of difficulty or speed. taking a look at dirt rally is a great example, because of narrow roads and the great camera movement and shake, you feel constantly on edge and insanely fast even when going only 88mph. the offroad sections are okay but the way the cars handle over them doesn't incentivise proper rallying and doing it with actual rally/offroad cars.
ive completed all the main story missions.. theres nothing i wanna do, i dont wanna play the game anymore smh.
this is why I want fh6 to be based in Japan there is a mix of mountain roads open fields and city's with loads of public transport
The issue with Forza isn’t the location, Japan won’t fix the problems the game suffers from: being a boring tech demo.
@@Rudenbehr the problem with the game is each one is based more towards a specific sub culture of cars and the location makes it obvious that's why some were as diverse as Japan would be a good location for fh6
the music still plays in the autoshow but its muffled
My main issue is i got it on launch and unlocked everything and got rich while the online was still broken af. When the online finally got somewhat functional me and my friends were already tired of it as we already had everything we wanted, and solo play is honestly just uninteresting
You are 100% Correct Sir!
I never understand the perfect reviews of this game.
The muffled music can be fixed with a muffled toilet club sound just saying it would work
I miss all the FH4 dialog so much
I agree with your points but what I don’t understand is why FH5 is being talked about so much more than it’s rivals, NFS UB (for example). I really can’t put my finger on why I go to play FH5 again over choosing NFS UB even though the later is a better game in many regards.
I liked NFSUB but got bored of it much sooner than FH5. And YT suggests the same pattern, FH5 related content is still be produced more
Smoke slider, just like fov slider. Low, medium, high. That should be an option. Also adding for slider for console. That would change the game
FOV^
Forza needs an autoshow that actually feels like you're at an autoshow. Every single Forza Horizon game features a non-show autoshow that's really just you flipping through a catalog.
I can’t lie, I never use the radio in FH5, I’d rather have the soundtrack of whatever car I’m driving (yes, even the electric ones)
Maybe some people think this is weird, but I don’t ever upgrade or tune cars either so 🤷♂️
That's really not weird i too enjoy driving cars that are stock and for the cars i really like i have multiple of them to try out different builds
Really the only song I truly liked from the entire soundtrack was that one Porter Robinson song on Pulse, the rest of it sucks so badly
UK maps will always be clear because it makes it feel for realistic i used to do police chases on FH4 with uk police wraps but it’s dead with mexico feels less real and this applies to all the other features
One good feature that the devs should add to FH6, is when you buy a car, you get to decide which trim you want
TDU Solar Crown out soon(ish) guys, don't worry
They should add more cars on the highway so we can swing in and out of traffic
And also there is no snow in the winter!it feels so bad and it doesn't make seasons different from each other.but winter in Forza horizon 4 was amazing
i recently bought the game and YT recommend me this
You can actually hear the music in the autoshow.
Why I don’t feel it dead
Because I don’t have money to buy the game and wanted it so much
I was thinking of getting FH5 but then I started considering FH4 too which honestly has nicer scenery imo and not that big difference in graphics
Perhaps I should go for completely different title?
If you on gamepass they all free. Also imo I rather play fh4 cause 5 is actually boring. Deleted the game after the 10th anniversary cause I had nothing to do
if you want to her music in the auto show than turn on your radio
Easy to complete story
Bland boring map design (it’s mostly sand)
The festival is quite boring
The drag strip doesn’t have any lights so you have to trust that the other person won’t do the 3rd honk early
Is it just me or is the tram @5:50 on TE's :'D
It would be amazing if i started from the bottom and scale my way to the top. It always feels weird how I start the game and everyone is just having an orgasm everytime anyone says my name.
Tight roads would be sick
I think the biggest problem i have with forza horizon 5 is just its lack of variety in the map
Like all you have are deserts and rainforests
Too many open fields
Yep very boring
We just need FH1 progression like the wristband system and earning money that was mostly bellow 10K and gatekeeping pries only rewarding u with wheelspins after a level milestone rather then constantly
The thing that kills the game for me... the fact that they want me to grind for a car once a season, I find this as a complete bore to the game being forced to play or else i wont have the newest car.
Agree
Forza need to add real life exhaust after you modified and also add cars that we actually can buy at autoshow
Of all the things you could of suggested, exhausts are what you first though of?
I've gone back to playing fh4 and to be honest it's been really enjoyable
I kinda hate that the streets are just straights that get combined, it just isn't fun after 100 gamedays in general forza horizon
I think it feels dead because i barely encounter any players only in the festival and occasionally in the highway and players that are too far from you just disappear from the map so you can't use the map to locate players to maybe join them and the map it's so empty, just miles and miles of either desert or arid an dead terrain except the jungle wich i like.
7:38 am i the onl one who tought tht it says "cumout" on car instead of "gumout" ;---;
I feel like the ability to go offroad anywhere kinda makes a map dull. I remember the old nfs maps (Underground 2, MW, Carbon. And horizon 1/2!) so well because you actually had to drive on the roads. You couldn't just hop off into the fields everywhere.
The main reason is progression also the map feel so empty the car list is not that new most of the cars are recycled from fh4 and for the online experience there is not much to do i dunno why they removed ranked adventure from fh4 and why i can't choose class why i have to matchmake and hope i get the class race i want
Needs more traffic. Smaller roads. Needs to be risks to going fast. More pedestrians. More random things in the map sort of like GTA.
There should be an option or game mode where you can earn money very hard and for start you don't get so much car and so easily.. Like you have a borrowed car and you need to earn your very first own car, and then tune it piece by piece and not instantly go up from 150-200 hp to 700-1000 hp. Everything should have a cost that you can earn really hard. Like in NFS Unbound.
On top of there being no progression, it also didn't introduce anything majorly new to the franchise apart from Eventlab compared to FH4. Eventlab is absolutely amazing and there is a lot to see and experience, but the game itself does very little to promote skilled creators and awesome maps.
Another thing that annoys me, and I've heard you mentioning this in one of your videos as well.
Where is the second expansion?
In horizon 4, we got fortune island 2,5 months after the release. And we got the lego expansion about 6 months after fortune island.
Now the hotwheels came out almost a year after! And we still haven't heard anything of the second one. It seems a bit lazy to be honest, this will make a lot of people lose attention for the game.
the ai drive too slow too, like who does 45 kph in the countryside? No, they do around 70 kph in the countryside
The main problem is that it's a pc and Xbox game and the last one is a huge limitation because of its max performance.
true af for the modern city
The "ancient map" part wouldn't be much of a problem if it was better made, or if only there was some context for it. Or even both, and Zelda Breath of The Wild is the perfect exaple, in that game, Zelda explains to us that the world was almost completely destroyed 100 years ago, and even with that, it still had some proper identity
Let me get out of the car. At least in certain locarions. My character has all these sweet clothes (lol) but they're kind of pointless when you only see them when loading a race
Idk man. I just turn on BASS radio and drive around in my Supra. It’s a blast
nice
To me, the only thing you can do in Forza is step on the accelerator and never let go while causing mass destruction :'D thats just what I do when I get bored of a racing game.. just drive like ive lost my mind