I Entered a Smash Bros Tournament with Roy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2023
- I played in my local super smash bros ultimate tournament with roy! If you are enjoying these competitive smash bros videos that have a bit of analysis in them as well then please drop a like :)
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This is probably the content where Jordan is at his best. Able to break things down in a tourney setting while also talking about his mentality for certain moves or strategies in a given match. The best parts are when he sees himself do something stupid that he clearly forgot happened and is just like "that... that was just bad" 😂
I agree this content made me sub. Love hearing his analysis and how he finds mistakes. He does a good job of breaking things down and I think his content is a lot more relatable than top players who do the same.
Input the desired special move (motion input required) between the charge and charge release frames of down smash. About a 3 frame window (yes it's hard.) It's known as the late kara-cancel. Similar things are from street fighter
If you hit someone with the down smash, it’s easier, as the hit lag of the move gives you more time to do the input
@@danilio_1224 that's just a regular special cancel. You can't do this on whiff as the shotos do it in neutral
So it IS using the negative edge of the A press. Interesting. I figured it would either be that, or using B for the input button overwrites the down smash charge. That's super cool.
@@RotaAbyssian no negative edge. It requires two A button presses/an A button and a B button. That's why it's hard
@@quickpixel8933 I see. Still super cool. Thank you for the explanation
He’s definitely got this, Roy is a solid top tier character that’s not too complicated.
He’s actually really complicated, Roy has to deal with the ghosts on the stage.
Nope. On my mama and GOD he will lose.
@@TheNapolrip ur mama
@@pikafanone underrated comment
@@drsushi8183 it’s a constantly repeated joke, it’s is very rated
Hey poppt, got a question. why aren’t the “i entered a tournament with” videos not in a playlist? not a big deal though. keep up the amazing work! love the vids
19:50 (sorry in advance for the bad english) Both Shotos can perform this tech called kara-cancel. When you are charging down smash prepare the imput, yes imput, for a special attack. When you release down smash, you have about 4 frames to do the imput (down b doesnt work I think). If you did it correctly the Tatsumaki (side B) will cover more distance and be faster. Sorry if i misspelled something and If someone already explained it. Good luck in your next tournament. love from spain
This is def my favorite series. Love seeing the gameplay and thought process of each character!
2:10 I guess I'll explain tilt cancel aerials, but there are a few things we need to cover first:
1- when performing a tilt with the c-stick, the game processes it as two inputs: a direction with the left stick and an A press, both for one frame (i.e. the c-stick is just a macro)
2- when doing an instant short hop aerial (press A during jumpsquat, i.e. within 3 frames of pressing jump) you will always get a short hop with an aerial attack coming out on the first possible frame, and which aerial you get is determined by the left stick's position *_during the jumpsquat._*
3- this game allows you to cancel tilt attacks with a jump within the first 3 frames of the attack, probably to make the short hop instant aerial shortcut (press A during jumpsquat) more lenient.
with that out of the way:
tilt cancel aerials are a technique that takes advantage of two things: 1 - instant ahort hop aerials, and 2 - the fact that doing a forward tilt with the c-stick turns you around.
when you cancel a forward tilt into a jump while the left stick is in a neutral position, you get a neutral aerial; because even though the c-stick sent a directional input to the game, it was only for one frame and was before the jumpsquat started.
combining all this we can dash forward and without ever releasing that forward input, tap the c-stick backwards to sent a tilt attack input to the game, and cancel it with a jump to get a short hop aerial with full forwards momentum but with your character turned around.
if you were holding forwards the whole time, that forward input will be what tells the game which way to attack during the jumpsquat, and you'll get a full momentum instant back air.
Haven't played the game in a couple of years but I always mained Roy. I don't think he's THAT much of a mashing character and he's really fun, excited to see how you did :)
Love this format. Watching you comment on your own playstyle and poppin‘ off whenever you get something cool is so entertaining to watch :) (would love to see Incineroar some time soon)
Something i dont see a lot of people talking about when it comes to roy is his out-of-shield. he has FRAME 4 super armor on his up-b which does 21.1%, an up-smash, which comes out frame 12, scoops both sides, and does 17% without factoring in 1v1 freshness, and basically any aerial of your choosing
loved this vid i think you are getting a lot better at this format. i cant wait for the next character you try(i vote for marth or incineroar)
Top tiers be like
“Pikachu is literally my worst mu it’s minus 0.5”
When you're doing a downsmash with ryu or Ken between charging and releasing the move, if you do the input for sure you can or hadukin or spin kick, it will cancel that attack into that input. It's called a kara-cancel and I believe it's between 1to 3 frames where it's active to do it
It is possible to hit the downsmash and neutral b/side b
19:50 it's called a Kara cancel. If a shoto inputs a true special before dsmash hitbox comes out they get to cancel into it
I don't know if you've made this into a playlist or not yet, but you absolutely should if not! I think it's your most entertaining and rewatchable series (outside of BoTW because it's absolutely top tier lets be honest), and I would love to be able to watch them all again back to back! You've won with so many that's it's hard to keep track of them all now and the ability to watch them all in a row would be awesome ❤️
I really appreciate hearing your mentality and strategy in each match, it’s very interesting to hear how a high level player approaches tournament matches. I love this series, great work Poppt!
great insight you gave to your games. Would really enjoy more of your coaching philosophy over your gameplay for real!
Congratulations Poppt! It was also cool to see you incorporated some of the yt chat and comments tips in your gameplay :)
You need a playlist of the “I entered a tournament” videos
The risk/reward discussion was really cool and useful. I personally tend to struggle with using counters, and never thought about it in terms of "finding situations where it won't be punished even if I'm wrong"
Poppt1’s voice: analyzing the hell out of the gameplay
Poppt1’s drawings: hey look, a stick figure
Wasn’t expecting to learn something (especially so soon in the video) but thanks for the explanation on how to do Roy’s jab to back air, I’ve been trying to do it and I wasn’t aware that you’re supposed to buffer the attack before you jump 😅
I LOVE THIS CONTENT -- definitely my favorite Poppt1 series. Keep up the good work my dude.
Also, I would love to see your Young Link in tournament play. So that is my suggestion for next tourney but you do you Jordan. Excited to see whoever your next character will be.
Incredible adjustment made in finals, awesome explanation, fantastic video!
I’ve kinda gotten rusty recently, so I welcome these tournament videos to remind me of fundamentals. Thanks Poppt!
Great video. I loved seeing you break down the options you had and what you did. It really helped me see how to think through things. Poppt1 with the big brain
Love these videos!! Analysis is awesome on top of gameplay. Also I suck at jab back air lol
2:09 attack cancel bair is like
Ftilt behind with c stick
Jump cancels ftilt, keeps attack input
So if you put left stick forward you get a bair
If you put left stick somewhere else you get uair, fair, etc
Great adaptation Poppt. The next phase is to intentionally cultivate a habit into your opponent, and then start punishing it when they least expect it.
Just wanted to leave a comment saying Ive been loving your content, both here and on the underdogs, recently.
Im an Aussie living in the UK and the content really helps with the homesickness 😅
I’d love to see you play as Ridley!! That’s my main squeeze lol. I am Glad to see your content again poppt1 🐐
These are my all time favorite vids you make bro, you are a true competitor
"bit of a cheeky plug, speaking of plug I pull the plug ON WILLS LIFE SUPPORT" something i thought id never hear from poppt
Yes! More of these! This type of content is the stuff I won’t miss!
I don’t know if you take requests but Greninja would be a pretty cool character to see. He has flashy combos but also pretty solid confirms despite not really being seen much
Man, i've always mained Roy and here you are teaching me how to do new tech, thank you
I noticed that William used fire ball when coming back on stage so counter on edge of the stage is a good idea love the vids btw ur a great TH-camr
great video, you getting really good at mixing up entertainment while still being more informativ than a lot of guids people put out there.
keep up the great work!
(also you dont have to apologize for uploading less frequent :D)
have a great day!
I really like these videos. Although I do somewhat miss the little mac format where you go over your progress from the beginning, ie learning comboes, getting into elite, getting coached, etc then finishing with a tournament.
"It's just the sound of Roy's meaty sword"
Another one for the Poppt1 out of context compilation
I can’t wait for a cloud episode if he’s really gonna do every character
Just a tip just use more forward tilt whenever you need a really late kill option forward tilt is actually one of the best killing forward tilts
the irony of finishing it all with jab back air :) ggs poppy!
William did a Kara Cancel. It can be done by using down smash, and then within 4 frames, after releasing it, you input another special. It works with side-b, shaku, hadouken, and shoryu. He did a late Kara tho, so he had less time to do it. If you charge it tho, you can input the next special, while you charge, then release smash, and push A, B, or Grab again. If you do a late kara cancel with tatsu (side-b) you'll get a speed boost, which catches people off guard, and at lower percents you can shaku hover, then kara cancel tatsu boost for some good damage
I personally do a down smash, then do the tatsu input, and when released the smash, mash the A or B button. It's such a short window, but effective
i like how he respects other players and says they're the better player, but then also goes 3-0 in grands reset, pretty much went 5-3
Id love to see the marth at some point, you have the Lucina fundies but some tippers are hard but op with setups
Also some harder characters like sheik or Peach that you'd have to practice
Let’s gooo! I LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS SERIES
I would like seeing you play puff that. Now that would be sick
This is really cool:D i would love to know a little more about how you prepared for the tournament and what your focus for training was
Honestly, though there hasn’t been as much of an abundance of content on the TH-cam lately, I think that the tournament videos as well as the videos focused on the state of competitive smash have been some of your best ever, so I wouldn’t claim that it’s been in any way underwhelming lately, quite the opposite :)
Thanks for the upload on my bday! Love your vids!
fav video series right here.
I feel you should try a shoto like ryu sometime :) not rushing content ofc but could be fun
That grand finals set was pretty hype ngl
Congrats Poppt! Would love to see you try some Incineroar. Big bragging rights if you pull that off, but if Skyjay can do it, why not you?
Jesus _Christ._ William be parryin' like he's playing _Third Strike_ in the arcades.
YES!! I missed this series!
these are definitely your best videos!
you know its a good day when poppt uploads
This series is so fire
Pretty sure that the fireball from down smash is making use of negative edge, basically you hold the downsmash and then input the half circle while still holding the attack button, then after the half circle you release the attack button to shoot the fireball. (negative edge is a mechanic in a few fighting games that basically just lets you attack with release inputs and the fgc characters in smash can utilize it to make combos easier)
i think it is simply just that ryu can cancel down smash into specials
@@maratby4364 nah if youre cancelling downsmash into something without hitting someone first its either negative edge or kara cancels.
The last video of this series should be you winning a tournament with random it would be awesome
In the first 3 frames of ryu/ken smash attacks, they can input a special input move and do what is called a karra-cancel.
19:55 Ryu and Ken can both cancel their normals into specials, so I assume what's going on is that he's charging down smash, and then as soon as he releases it he inputs Shakunetsu, which if done quick enough will only have Down Smash out for 1-3 frames, as Shakunetsu takes priority since it's a special move cancled out of a normal, that beibg Down Smash
Adding onto this after seeing more footage, I believe this specific tech is only possible in combination with Down Smash if you're cancelling into an input move (Hadoken, Shakunetsu, Tatsumaki, Shoryuken), so it has to be input move done very quickly out of Down Smash, and it has to be an input move (no easy moves or Focus Attack)
Hey, about that thing with Ryu, Ken (my secondary) also can do it, and what I understand, it’s called a Kara Cancel, and you charge down Smash, release, then you have like 5 frames to do a true input and it’ll cancel the down Smash, I can’t do it myself but it’s pretty useful in certain situations.
Love these videos! Next maybe incineroar??
Wow ! Clean Roy ! I have so much to learn !
Yes! love these videos!
Yes finally a character I play this video was awesome because I don’t watch roy gameplay so this shocked me
By the end of this series poppt1 is going to be the best player with every single character in his region
One thing I've noticed that could be done a bit better is mixing up what landing aerials you do. I've only seen landing nair and fair up until the winners finals set. Landing nair is solid and landing up air is actually really good to see up a juggle and advantage state. I know you aren't going to play Roy seriously, but I did want to point it out as someone who has mained Roy since smash 4
Idk why, but playing ryu and ken gives you incredible parrying abilities. All ryus and kens have great parrys, and i still am pretty good at parrying just because i used to play them. Whenever you see them, assume they will parry everything
Street Fighter characters and landing insane parries, name a more iconic duo
I like how the title didn't spoil the results.
Alright, I’ve been saying this for a while, but we need to see the Peach next
"one of my best tournament characters."
I love these tournament videos but I wish you would bring back the training videos a day before where you learn the character and get some online practice
As a roy main, I am proud of you Poppt. Good job
I could be wrong but attack cancels happen because you cancel a move (like in the example it would be f-tilt) by jumping in the very early frames of inputting the move. Because you f tilt the other direction it turns you around. You then do an attack depending on the direction you put the control stick in. No direction nair, backwards back air, forward fair etc.
Next, you should do Roy! (but Bowser Jr.)
William did a kara cancel, its a hard ryu and ken tech where you cancel the startup lag of down smash into a true input move. you need to do a the true input super fast. I grinded 2 hour to get it consistent
Damn i love these videos
Attack cancel inputs
Forward tilt away from person, then press jump and left stick input (towards the direction you want to back air) at same time shortly after forward tilt (like a few frames apart from each other).
So basically you’re inputting 3 buttons at once, with the tilt move just a mini second before the other two inputs. In doing say, instead of a tilt move coming out In the direction you initially inputted, it will cancel the tilt move and transform it into an aerial. But it inputed the turn around from the tilt move and the aerial in the direction of your left stick.
If you Don’t understand this, look it up and practice. The timing is everything.
poppt mains roy now
The thing is too that Ryu and Ken have a larger parrying window than most other characters to make them more true to their home series. Normally a "perfect shield" has a specific window for characters to parry. Some are better at parrying than others as their is a formula for it, but Ryu and Ken have almost 3 frames more than any other character as a window to land the parry. It's still not a given but if you want to be insane at parrying, Street Fighter seems to he the series to pull from
Playing around parries, my G
the thing with him parrying a lot (he is good at that, not to take credit from him) is that sword characters are more predictable on their landing attack timings so is easier to parry a sword character landing than most other characters
Do you think you’ll keep making tournament content when smash 6 comes out? Hosting a tournament with the rest of the underdogs would be cool. Maybe like Zach’s smash bash events with a competitive tournament as the main event and some of the casual brackets Zach did at those tournaments as side events or something like that. I feel like that would do really well, especially right at the beginning of a new game.
Kinda poetic that he won the tournament with jab back air
1:45 Poppt I just wanted to tell you. That I researched how to do RAR and Jair before, but the video I found was really bad but then I hear you talking here about doing the C stick before the jump, and the video I watched was the opposite. So I did some research again right after this and finally found the correct inputs to do Jair and stuff, ALL THANKS TO YOU. THANK YOU JORDAN FOR FREEING ME FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO DO JAIRS AND RARS
yo actually SAME i've been having so much fun playing roy the last few days
I'd love to see you play peach or byleth in tournament!
Idk about everybody else but i def think the next character should be Poppt1's Greninja
KARA CANCEL EXPLANATION! William the Ryu did something called a kara cancel. Its very hard but as soon as your smash attack has a hitbox you can cancel it into a shoryuken, fireball, or tatsumaki shoryuken(side b). You have to do the input you cant just push directional b. The fireball input is down, then diagonally down then right/left. IT IS FRAME PERFECT.
I main link and I love to see you try him in a tournament.
Great job! 🔥👏🏻
Im still waiting for the *NASTY-*
_think of a bad character, think of a bad character he hasnt done and wouldn't ever do._
_... _*_Duck Hunt Duo?_*
"Please, no johns" -Reggie
Definitely easier to do an irar instead of attack cancel lol. Attack cancel also can't hit people when you need a full hop back air, so you have to irar in those situations. Might as well just do it that way every time
Time to pay up for that Spotify family plan!
This video is a gold mine of out of context sus quotes