A lot of people seem to be missing the point of the video. Yes, most champions would do bad in modern VGC because theyre either outdated movsets or singles teams. Thats the point. Seeing how theyd do today in an offcial tournament.
Ok but vgc isn't the only league, Smogon does singles that fits closer to what these trainers rules are, I get the sentiment but there was still options
@@dorktriogamer2865that’s missing the point. We’re using VGC because it’s the Nintendo official format. These are also champions by Nintendo’s standards. Smogon is fan made. It’s more fair looking at them from a VGC standpoint to see who’s the best according to their creators
"I'll be judging these teams by how well they suit a double battle format." *Puts the champion whose team was intended as a double battle in first place.* Wow, didn't see that coming. Is what I would have said if HAU DIDN'T ABSOLUTELY ANNIHILATE THE COMPETITION! HOT DAMN THAT DECIDUEYE IS INSANE
I don’t even have to watch the video to know Trace will be the champion of champions. Only a genius would have only 3 moves in every Pokémon as a champion.
Kieran’s Hydrapple being Tera Poison would’ve been a nice nod to the Loyal Three. It’d be like if he was so obsessed with becoming a worthy trainer, he’s become the very Type his beloved ogre fought against
I do see where they were going with Tera Fighting, though. It's the idea that Kieran can think of nothing but fighting and getting stronger. I also agree with you that Tera Poison is much more thematically fitting than Tera Fighting, and Tera Poison would have really fed into the "Kieran is being controlled by Pecharunt" theory.
@@GiveItARest I prefer the idea that Kieran is just that toxic that Pecharunt doesn't affect him at all similiar to how poison type usually don't get poisoned. It give him the agency and show that he choose to be this way.
Deadass, no Intimidate, 3 moves, and the bias is atrocious. If we're ranking these teams on an IN GAME BASIS which is what clearly is the case given the discussion of Trace, which would make Lance's team actually amazing because, believe it or not, Gen 5 dragon spam WAS A LEGIT STRAT. And it wasn't UNCOMMON.
“Leon’s team is bad at doubles.” That actually adds a humorous flavor to Raihan’s bitter rivalry with Leon with the former running doubles exclusively in his gym.
Fun fact on Pokémon black and white 2, there was a wifi distribution where you can fight the top 4 competitors of the 2012 Pokemon World Championships in each division. So if you really think about it, because the game itself classifies Ray Rizzo as a “champion” he could theoretically be on this list.
I don't understand why everyone is underestimating, hau??? Like come on its not bias that he made it to s tier, his decidueye literally has smack down. The ultimate counterplay against super effective flying types
Yeah, decisions like that are what really made him deserve his spot in the top three. I don't know a single Flying type in this video that would survive a 50 BP Rock move strong as that, let alone outspeed its 70 Speed to one shot it.
I think he’s definitely top 3 I’m not underestimating him Hell I even had a hard time playing against him in my first run But I’m not gonna act like he’s the best one. That just doesn’t feel right when he doesn’t even fully load out his moves.
When i saw the comments were about Hau I was like no way, then i heard the explanation and im still like no way, i guess that decidueye really did wonders for him
I was pleasantly surprised with all of the fights in the DLC. I still beat it fairly easily because level 100 legendaries kinda do that, but it was way more interesting. I even almost lost once to one of the elite four, the one with trick room absolutely messed with my fast team. I really hope future games have difficult fights like that too.
@@bigpoggers6507tbh the moment it was revealed Kieran reacts violently to you bringing Ogerpon, bringing her for psychologcial warfare is a tradition Hell, I restarted my game just to get that satisfaction😅
A little fun fact about Kieran's Dragonite, though he never Terastallizes Dragonite in-game, in the game's code Kieran's Dragonite is coded to have Tera Normal for E-Epeed. It doesn't help Dragonite's set, but it's a neat little hidden detail.
I remember before indigo disk dropped everyone and their mom was theorizing that kieran was possessed by pecharunt or some other evil force only for it to be revealed that he’s just kinda like that
shoutouts to the time i went on a 7 win streak using kieran's team on the smogon doubles ou ladder, i was genuinely relieved when someone finally beat me
@@Maggolando No it's not, and besides I was making a joke about extreme speed sweep which non farigiraf users generally become victims of. Stop being 'um akshually'
You have revealed to me the truth of Hau Champion Supremacy, I would have never thought that Power-Up Punch was actually that much of a gamechanger on Crabominable. Take this tribute as thanks for opening my eyes. May he reign eternal over the lesser champions.
Yeah but if Ogerpon followed Kieran he wouldn't have had his joker arc where he studied competitive pokemon and made a god tier team. Sure the Ogerpon would be his ace, but the rest of his team would be Hydrapple, Yanmega, Poliwrath, Gliscor, and either Shiftry or Probopass
I’d argue that Steel is worse for Diantha. I recently did a Diantha run in Sword and her biggest issue was Steel type. Yes, Hawlucha can help counter it and Tyrantrum can learn Earthquake and Earth Power, but that doesn’t help. Especially against Hop’s team with either box legend.
@@PiercingObstagoon862I misread that as Hau and there’s something so funny about the bottom tier countering her. To be fair, she’s not ranked that high herself, but still.
"[Drayton's] team looks like someone who knows how to make a VGC team but refuses to run anything but their favorites and wants to build a mono-Dragon type team," is so very in character for him. Has great potential that he refuses to live up to.
Getting a bunch of poketubers together and having a champion theme teams tournament sounds like a really interesting idea. Hau has to EARN that number one spot.
No way Hau got in the top of S tier, I never thought about how good was his team, but thanks to this analysis I can understand his WILD strategy better, definitly the best champion of all time, no doubts.
Kieren was an absolute beast. He had an S tier rain setter in politoed (which also had helping hand), a dragonite with extreme speed, a porygon z holding a life orb, an incineroar with intimidate and fake out, a grimmsnarl to set up screens, and a hydrapple just to give him a good ace. Dude knocked out 3 of my mons, all of whom were properly EV trained, level 100, and each holding an item.
With Geeta's new lineup & the strategy tactics with each one of them, I'm not even sure Nemona's new team could even stand a chance against her team now as Keiran couldn't!!!!!!!!!!! Chesnaught would make its fellow bearded Grass type predecessor Gogoat proud by following its example with setting up defensive building & HP draining tactics!!!!!! And I have to say that Geeta's Dragapult might slightly impress me a bit more over Leon's Dragapult. Leon's fighting style has always felt like to me in being portrayed as hype-showy & wildly flashy battling; while Geeta's is calm, cool, & collected while fighting with holding nothing back. And honestly Dragapult's own species style does seem in a way to match with Geeta's style. Even the natural/standard moveset of Geeta's Dragapult might one up Leon's Dragapult: true both utilize Thunderbolt & Shadow Ball, but Geeta's Dragapult utilizes Dragon Darts a lot "earlier" than Leon's Dragapult; and I have to say that Geeta's knowing of Sucker Punch might put it over than Leon's with Flamethrower
24:27 tera poison on hydraple would be a really good double meaning tera competitively as you said good tera and lore wise amassing redhearing for people who though kerian was possessed by "dokutaro" better known as peaherunt
Something I noticed. Especially when it’s been said that Nuzlocking BDSP can be a pain because of the crazy difficulty spike. It’s mostly the same team but the items and such are actually pretty tough. Even with cheesing and using Manaphy my first playthrough I remember it being actually pretty tough to win
I'm completely unsurprised that Hau, the best dancer known in Aloha with his signature item "Malasada" made top 1 onto the list and should be the main inspiration of all Pokémon teams in the VGC area if they wish to move forward.
I still love that in game Alder was a pseudo bug champion. Not the best but he was never meant to be the best, he is an older man dealing with loss and grief.
man hau won thats super cool i mean alolan raichu and incineroar with only 3 moves is such an unexpected play i think even wolfey would struggle with this
Not that it would change much, I think, but Leon does have different teams with items and such when you fight him in the battle tower and you can fight him in doubles format too
Trace making it all the way to S-tier was bloody wild. Marowak really pulled through against incineroar. Jokes aside, Geeta just raw-dogging her way to second place without items is awesome. Guess that’s what having two protect options and reaping the benefits of powercreep does to a team. If you want a topic, it would be cool if you went through every champion and competitively optimized all their teams by mixing and matching their best Pokémon and moves based on all their appearances(including masters) and ranked them.
I'd be hilarious if Kieran went to ladder and just spitefully hard focused every Ogerpon he encountered, no matter how unoptimal it is for that turn Bro could switch in his Incineroar in front of a Archaludon charging a Electro Shot, and he'd still Fake Out the Ogerpon
"[Peony] gets whatever the bad version of a silver medal is" ...I am leaning heavily towards telling you that this would be a bronze medal but you do you :D
I know there's gonna be a lot of Sinnoh fan salt on that Cynthia ranking, but honestly? I'm just proud that she managed to get such a high ranking with a more than decade-old team. Also my boi Lucario, love to see him doing things besides chilling in low-tier singles and being drawn in questionable commissions on FurAffinity.
Paldea is flipping weird for this since they treat championship as just like... a rank multiple people can hold. Nemona *absolutely* is following the "is holding back" trend despite being a champion before the game even starts, and Geeta seems to just always be the top ranked champion no matter what.
@@MoxieBoosted I more meant the part where she's a champion before the game even starts, and decides to "start over" metaphorically and train up a new team to be your rival: She's still a champion, even when facing you with just a level 5 Sprigatito/Fuecoco/Quaxly. Yer right that her end-game team she's says she's not holding back anymore, but she *was* holding back for the vast majority of the game, despite being Champion rank herself, hence the weirdness.
22:33 Too bad she wasn't like that in the base game. She will forever be the new Diantha when it comes to first time impressions. Plus my Skeledirge says hi.
I wouldn’t think hau was that strong but I guess when you take the trainer outside of problems in a normal play through like item spam they can thrive a lot
Was not expecting Hau to take the crown... I'm also surprised that BDSP Cynthia wasn't used, given that it answers a couple of the critiques leveled at her WCT team: it's got rough skin on Garchomp and adds (very limited) speed control in Thunder Wave on Togekiss. It unfortunately drops protect on Spiritomb, but it also adds Dazzling Gleam on Togekiss, swaps Roserade for Adaptability Hyper Beam Porygon-Z with Expert Belt BoltBeam and Shadow Ball coverage (basically Kieran's except Expert Belt over Life Orb), and drops Glaceon for Flame Orb Marvel Scale Recover Milotic. A couple of the item choices aren't quite as good and there's still a dearth of strong speed control and positioning moves, but everyone has items and their best abilities.
A lot of people seem to be missing the point of the video.
Yes, most champions would do bad in modern VGC because theyre either outdated movsets or singles teams. Thats the point. Seeing how theyd do today in an offcial tournament.
Ok but vgc isn't the only league, Smogon does singles that fits closer to what these trainers rules are, I get the sentiment but there was still options
@dorktriogamer2865 not doing VGC defeats the purpose of the video. The purpose being "how good are they in official play?"
@@dorktriogamer2865that’s missing the point. We’re using VGC because it’s the Nintendo official format. These are also champions by Nintendo’s standards. Smogon is fan made. It’s more fair looking at them from a VGC standpoint to see who’s the best according to their creators
Me when my favorite VGC youtuber makes a team viability analysis video on the VGC format instead of Smogon LC: 😡😡😡
@@Dondozoisbeast1 I hate it when people don't play the game the same way as me 🤓
wow i cant believe hau actually won this. yknow that decidueye really did wonders for him.
Yeah, the people who haven’t watched the full video are gonna be so confused.
thats true! I really didn't expect his team to come together at the end! truly a great team
Same same + Idk something stupid like that
The funny thing is that Hau isn't even a champion lol.
something like this
"I'll be judging these teams by how well they suit a double battle format."
*Puts the champion whose team was intended as a double battle in first place.*
Wow, didn't see that coming.
Is what I would have said if HAU DIDN'T ABSOLUTELY ANNIHILATE THE COMPETITION!
HOT DAMN THAT DECIDUEYE IS INSANE
I don’t even have to watch the video to know Trace will be the champion of champions. Only a genius would have only 3 moves in every Pokémon as a champion.
@thevoyagingcreator6 months old*
It's all he needs
You only need 3 moves if they're all just really good 💪🧠
And to show his dominance and strength, he doesn’t even need abilities
He’s so good, he doesn’t even need 4 moves.
Leon: I have an army!
Mustard: And I have an Urshifu
Hau: I have Deciduye
@@josephray459and an incineroar with 3 moves without intimidate
@@Car.rottt_hau: still wrecked your team in our fights
I can't believe Hala was on top, truly the kahuna on the laguna
Me when the kahuna takes a stroll to the wrong laguna, specifically Laguna in the PH.
😂😭😭😭
Yes
@@BeulraekiPinoy ikaw ay pinoy ipakita sa mundo
@@forsusthings Ako hindi Filipino. Ako ay Koreano-Americano.
(I lived in the Philippines for like 9 years)
Kieran’s Hydrapple being Tera Poison would’ve been a nice nod to the Loyal Three. It’d be like if he was so obsessed with becoming a worthy trainer, he’s become the very Type his beloved ogre fought against
I do see where they were going with Tera Fighting, though. It's the idea that Kieran can think of nothing but fighting and getting stronger. I also agree with you that Tera Poison is much more thematically fitting than Tera Fighting, and Tera Poison would have really fed into the "Kieran is being controlled by Pecharunt" theory.
Oh that would have been a fantastic choice for that purpose.
@@danielnelba8415 Fighting doesn't resist Ice
@@matthewroberts198 ops
@@GiveItARest I prefer the idea that Kieran is just that toxic that Pecharunt doesn't affect him at all similiar to how poison type usually don't get poisoned. It give him the agency and show that he choose to be this way.
Hau being in S tier when he literally only has 3 moves on his incineroar:
What Incineroar does to a mf
Deadass, no Intimidate, 3 moves, and the bias is atrocious. If we're ranking these teams on an IN GAME BASIS which is what clearly is the case given the discussion of Trace, which would make Lance's team actually amazing because, believe it or not, Gen 5 dragon spam WAS A LEGIT STRAT. And it wasn't UNCOMMON.
...hau was in the bottom tier, what are you talking about
edit: my fault
@@theimprovedbore550☝️
@@theimprovedbore550no he is the top of SS+ tier did you even watch the video? 🫣
“Leon’s team is bad at doubles.”
That actually adds a humorous flavor to Raihan’s bitter rivalry with Leon with the former running doubles exclusively in his gym.
Kieran got done dirty so hard he done pulled up a competitive Pokemon team to beat your ass for stealing his funny green ogre
Nah nah nah fuck him. The orange achilles-esque cinnamol roll came with us fair and square😂😂😂
Sorry not sorry Kieran
Kieran: I loved her before either of us knew you existed
Player: well she loved me before she knew you existed
Kieran: "INCINEROAR, KILL THEM."
don't forget his AI automatically targets Ogerpon if u send it out so he has something against it. love that detail they added
@@confuseddragonedits2294 *Use’s Fake Out. Then Parting Shots Into Urshifou*
is not that Leon can't afford the TM for dragon pulse...is because the dude got lost on the way to the shop and never get to buy thou.
Fun fact on Pokémon black and white 2, there was a wifi distribution where you can fight the top 4 competitors of the 2012 Pokemon World Championships in each division. So if you really think about it, because the game itself classifies Ray Rizzo as a “champion” he could theoretically be on this list.
Champion rizzo
WolfeVGC might count if you stretch it for B2W2
you can actually still access the fights today by injecting them with pksm, if you've got a modded console that is
@@modestMismagius105 You don’t even need a modded console or anything like that, you can just use the DNS exploit.
the 17:47 timestamp title not switching between blue and red implies they were both named Fart
I don't understand why everyone is underestimating, hau??? Like come on its not bias that he made it to s tier, his decidueye literally has smack down. The ultimate counterplay against super effective flying types
Yeah, decisions like that are what really made him deserve his spot in the top three. I don't know a single Flying type in this video that would survive a 50 BP Rock move strong as that, let alone outspeed its 70 Speed to one shot it.
Jokes aside, IT HAS 70 SPEEED WTF@@Nate3417
I think he’s definitely top 3
I’m not underestimating him
Hell I even had a hard time playing against him in my first run
But I’m not gonna act like he’s the best one. That just doesn’t feel right when he doesn’t even fully load out his moves.
@@Nate3417literal flying tank:
When i saw the comments were about Hau I was like no way, then i heard the explanation and im still like no way, i guess that decidueye really did wonders for him
I got a strange feeling the two champions on the thumbnail are gonna be somewhere on here…
It's possible
Well it’s a ranking of all champions, so obviously
i think there might be an odd chance of that happening
@@holyelephantmg8838 no, but, its a possibility
16:31 Decidueye is the GOAT! Carrying Hau to S tier!!! Let’s go!
getting my shit absolutely rocked by kieren is something i hope all pokemon games going forward has
I got a LIL mad at Kieran and brought out the level 100 Mewtwo from the 7 star raids and Ogerpon, had to make sure he knew who the actual champion was
I was pleasantly surprised with all of the fights in the DLC. I still beat it fairly easily because level 100 legendaries kinda do that, but it was way more interesting. I even almost lost once to one of the elite four, the one with trick room absolutely messed with my fast team. I really hope future games have difficult fights like that too.
@@bigpoggers6507 bringing the ogre to kieren… salt to the wound
@@bigpoggers6507tbh the moment it was revealed Kieran reacts violently to you bringing Ogerpon, bringing her for psychologcial warfare is a tradition
Hell, I restarted my game just to get that satisfaction😅
@@bigpoggers6507 A little overkill, if you would have taken a proper VGC team you'd also win as he has a few suboptimal sets that can be exploited
A little fun fact about Kieran's Dragonite, though he never Terastallizes Dragonite in-game, in the game's code Kieran's Dragonite is coded to have Tera Normal for E-Epeed. It doesn't help Dragonite's set, but it's a neat little hidden detail.
I'm so happy Kieran got to share spotlight with Cynthia in the thumbnail. I'm so proud of our little onion boy
I remember before indigo disk dropped everyone and their mom was theorizing that kieran was possessed by pecharunt or some other evil force only for it to be revealed that he’s just kinda like that
shoutouts to the time i went on a 7 win streak using kieran's team on the smogon doubles ou ladder, i was genuinely relieved when someone finally beat me
you cant let me get away with this
I mean it's got incineroar and dragonite. Without a farigiraf, you just loose
@@archanasoni9666 That is just completely wrong
@@Maggolando No it's not, and besides I was making a joke about extreme speed sweep which non farigiraf users generally become victims of. Stop being 'um akshually'
I'm glad you showed the secret post-game Hau with Mega Incineroar. That guy is a BEAST.
I can't believe Hau made it to S tier! Truly a wonderful trainer
Kahuna Hala being S tier without even being a champion is goat work good for him
Wow I didn’t realize hau’s decidueye was so good! Surprised he made it into A tier.
That’s cap. He made it to top of S tier. Stop downplaying Hau
You have revealed to me the truth of Hau Champion Supremacy, I would have never thought that Power-Up Punch was actually that much of a gamechanger on Crabominable. Take this tribute as thanks for opening my eyes. May he reign eternal over the lesser champions.
Hau gang rise up
Ty!!!
Tfw you realize if ogerpon decided to follow kieran and he uses it as his ace over hydrapple the team would be way stronger.
Oh look, Mr Koyanskaya man is here.....howdy :D
Yeah but if Ogerpon followed Kieran he wouldn't have had his joker arc where he studied competitive pokemon and made a god tier team. Sure the Ogerpon would be his ace, but the rest of his team would be Hydrapple, Yanmega, Poliwrath, Gliscor, and either Shiftry or Probopass
@m05513 yeah, he would want to have fun, not CRUSH
But that Hau team though
Ok but is Hydraple a worse main than CARmilla?
To be fair, there's NO WAY most of these guys would have expected Fairy Type to exist (except Diantha... She has no excuse).
Cant blame lance for being weak to a type that doesn't exist yet, let alone flutter mane
@@timovos5371he clearly should’ve prepared for a Pokemon that would come into existence 9 generations later
I’d argue that Steel is worse for Diantha. I recently did a Diantha run in Sword and her biggest issue was Steel type. Yes, Hawlucha can help counter it and Tyrantrum can learn Earthquake and Earth Power, but that doesn’t help. Especially against Hop’s team with either box legend.
@@PiercingObstagoon862I misread that as Hau and there’s something so funny about the bottom tier countering her.
To be fair, she’s not ranked that high herself, but still.
Wow I can't believe Hau actually got that far. I should really replay Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon.
Yeah, I was expecting him to be bottom 3.
"[Drayton's] team looks like someone who knows how to make a VGC team but refuses to run anything but their favorites and wants to build a mono-Dragon type team," is so very in character for him. Has great potential that he refuses to live up to.
This made me like him a lot, just something about the vibe is adorable
My favorite part was when Hau said “Decidueye! Show these fools what happens when they steal my Malasadas!” and then proceeded to earn the top spot.
Shoutsout to Wally in the Maison, he's not a champ but lil bro was actually cookin
wow i cant believe hau actually won this.
yknow that decidueye really did wonders for him.
idk something stupid like that.
Getting a bunch of poketubers together and having a champion theme teams tournament sounds like a really interesting idea. Hau has to EARN that number one spot.
That thumbnail goes insanely hard. I love the Goku vs Frieza reference.
The Nemona chapter being titled, "Goku" is perfect. She is the FSG mascot after all
Moxie trying to manifest rock type superpower is diabolical💀💀💀
He had Goku as the time stamp for Nemona 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh boy I love Pokémon
U do too I had no idea
IT'S SKRAW VGC OMG! I am a massive fan
Fishing for flinches with that Waterfall King Rock combo is exactly the kind of strategy Blue would use
hau beats kieran???? holy shit, i didnt realize the primarina is that good
i think you should have taken Cynthia's Team from one of her match in BDSP. Her teams are brutal (with held items !).
No way Hau got in the top of S tier, I never thought about how good was his team, but thanks to this analysis I can understand his WILD strategy better, definitly the best champion of all time, no doubts.
Yea he was way better than kiren
The most impressive thing is Hau Winning.
Literally I cannot Belive how good his team was
Tbh i wasn't expecting Hau to be so high on the list, but the explanation actually kinda sold it forvme
Before i watch: The answer is Kieran right?? Does he count? Because, yeah its got to be him.
After watching: Well holy crap...Hau did it.
Kieren was an absolute beast. He had an S tier rain setter in politoed (which also had helping hand), a dragonite with extreme speed, a porygon z holding a life orb, an incineroar with intimidate and fake out, a grimmsnarl to set up screens, and a hydrapple just to give him a good ace.
Dude knocked out 3 of my mons, all of whom were properly EV trained, level 100, and each holding an item.
With Geeta's new lineup & the strategy tactics with each one of them, I'm not even sure Nemona's new team could even stand a chance against her team now as Keiran couldn't!!!!!!!!!!! Chesnaught would make its fellow bearded Grass type predecessor Gogoat proud by following its example with setting up defensive building & HP draining tactics!!!!!! And I have to say that Geeta's Dragapult might slightly impress me a bit more over Leon's Dragapult. Leon's fighting style has always felt like to me in being portrayed as hype-showy & wildly flashy battling; while Geeta's is calm, cool, & collected while fighting with holding nothing back. And honestly Dragapult's own species style does seem in a way to match with Geeta's style. Even the natural/standard moveset of Geeta's Dragapult might one up Leon's Dragapult: true both utilize Thunderbolt & Shadow Ball, but Geeta's Dragapult utilizes Dragon Darts a lot "earlier" than Leon's Dragapult; and I have to say that Geeta's knowing of Sucker Punch might put it over than Leon's with Flamethrower
So, what you're telling me is that we need an updated version of the World Tournament with doubles rules and newer Pokémon?
Spoiler:
Shocking how the only champion with Intimidate Incineroar was the top of the list
holy cow I can't believe Hao won A rank
Where’s Ni and where’s Ichi?
(Ni Hao. Idk the pinyin)
(Ichi, Ni, … {Ni as in 2})
San shi go fuuuun
16:37 get it. Mustard has some sauce. get it
Damn that decidueye from hau is supringly powerful and I think even better than all of cynthias teams combined
*(dies of very minor spelling mistake)*
Are you the strongest because you are the champion or are you the champion because you are the strongest?
I am you.
Hau getting to a is crazy, incredibly underrated champion 😊
24:27 tera poison on hydraple would be a really good double meaning tera competitively as you said good tera and lore wise amassing redhearing for people who though kerian was possessed by "dokutaro" better known as peaherunt
I feel Cynthia could've moved up alittle if you used her BDSP final team. They all have items, EV/IV trained, and with competitive natures
Something I noticed. Especially when it’s been said that Nuzlocking BDSP can be a pain because of the crazy difficulty spike. It’s mostly the same team but the items and such are actually pretty tough. Even with cheesing and using Manaphy my first playthrough I remember it being actually pretty tough to win
I'm completely unsurprised that Hau, the best dancer known in Aloha with his signature item "Malasada" made top 1 onto the list and should be the main inspiration of all Pokémon teams in the VGC area if they wish to move forward.
Kieran's gonna win because Incineroar
Wrong! Hau's Decidueye did!!!
@@michaelkarim57 Not just that Decidueye man! His Primarina and Incineroar teams absolutely walls Kieran's whole team
the Wallace / Steven “roommate” joke was craaaazyy 😭😭
This got me curious, what evil team leader has the strongest comp team?
Episode RR Giovanni, probably.
"Wallace's Long-Didtance, Low Commitment Roommate"
Looks like someone's seen their pokémon masters dialog
I still love that in game Alder was a pseudo bug champion. Not the best but he was never meant to be the best, he is an older man dealing with loss and grief.
man hau won thats super cool i mean alolan raichu and incineroar with only 3 moves is such an unexpected play i think even wolfey would struggle with this
LET'S GOOOOO! S-TIER HAU! I ALWAYS KNEW HE HAD IT IN HIM!
HAU SWEEP!!!!
Wow not expecting Hau to literally beat two legendaries, that’s insane
God i wish the games has an option you can toggle so gym fights, elite 4, and champion are turned into double battles
Obviously Hau would be in S-tier. The dude has an Incineroar.
Wow I can't believe hau won this, that decidueye must have done wonders for him
That Hau Incin set has permanently changed the way I view competitive Pokemon, definitely deserving of S tier
I knew hau was goated
Jesus Christ we really slept on Hau then.
Hau that high is crazy
Not that it would change much, I think, but Leon does have different teams with items and such when you fight him in the battle tower and you can fight him in doubles format too
Wow i cant believe hau actually won this. yknow that decidueye really did wonders for him 🙀🙀🙀
Geez, Hau’s team is so OP! Aue, he fed his Incin too much Malasada!
Volo: _Pathetic._
Hop (Zacian): Hello there
Trace making it all the way to S-tier was bloody wild. Marowak really pulled through against incineroar.
Jokes aside, Geeta just raw-dogging her way to second place without items is awesome. Guess that’s what having two protect options and reaping the benefits of powercreep does to a team.
If you want a topic, it would be cool if you went through every champion and competitively optimized all their teams by mixing and matching their best Pokémon and moves based on all their appearances(including masters) and ranked them.
I need Cynthia to look at me like that ngl
Ong she can take all my pokedollars and I'll still feel like I made a good purchase 😭🙏
...You two are downbad.
I'd be hilarious if Kieran went to ladder and just spitefully hard focused every Ogerpon he encountered, no matter how unoptimal it is for that turn
Bro could switch in his Incineroar in front of a Archaludon charging a Electro Shot, and he'd still Fake Out the Ogerpon
The fact that Red cheated to get a Blastoise with Water Spout and still was surpassed by Hau is insane.
Dude, it didn't click until you said it. But that explains why I had so much fucn in the Blueberry academy dlc
"[Peony] gets whatever the bad version of a silver medal is"
...I am leaning heavily towards telling you that this would be a bronze medal but you do you :D
Bronze is 3rd place (3rd best) though, not 2nd worst on the list😅
I know there's gonna be a lot of Sinnoh fan salt on that Cynthia ranking, but honestly? I'm just proud that she managed to get such a high ranking with a more than decade-old team.
Also my boi Lucario, love to see him doing things besides chilling in low-tier singles and being drawn in questionable commissions on FurAffinity.
Paldea is flipping weird for this since they treat championship as just like... a rank multiple people can hold.
Nemona *absolutely* is following the "is holding back" trend despite being a champion before the game even starts, and Geeta seems to just always be the top ranked champion no matter what.
She says in her dialogue she isn't holding back
@@MoxieBoosted I more meant the part where she's a champion before the game even starts, and decides to "start over" metaphorically and train up a new team to be your rival: She's still a champion, even when facing you with just a level 5 Sprigatito/Fuecoco/Quaxly.
Yer right that her end-game team she's says she's not holding back anymore, but she *was* holding back for the vast majority of the game, despite being Champion rank herself, hence the weirdness.
wow i cant believe hau actually won this. yknow that decidueye really did wonders for him.
Bro Hau getting to SS tier was not something i thought i would see today
Can't believe Hau got that far, man. What a legend.
Great list! But I'm not so sure about putting Hau over Kieran...
14:25 now I wonder how would BDSP cynthia rank? I think her second rematch team is better than the b2/w2 team or even just her first team
I really thought this would about Wolfey and such 😂
Hau is not only in S tier for theme songs, but also as a champion! Incineroar is actually crazy
Not only does Tracr have a full team of fully powercrept gen 1 pokemon, but marowak is powercrept by sandslash, a pokemon *from the same gen*
22:33 Too bad she wasn't like that in the base game. She will forever be the new Diantha when it comes to first time impressions. Plus my Skeledirge says hi.
ah yes my favorite fighting type move "Stone Edge"
That smoothing filter on all the Gen 5 footage hurts my soul
18:24 when superpower is a rock move and stone edge is a fighting move 🗿
I wouldn’t think hau was that strong but I guess when you take the trainer outside of problems in a normal play through like item spam they can thrive a lot
Was not expecting Hau to take the crown...
I'm also surprised that BDSP Cynthia wasn't used, given that it answers a couple of the critiques leveled at her WCT team: it's got rough skin on Garchomp and adds (very limited) speed control in Thunder Wave on Togekiss. It unfortunately drops protect on Spiritomb, but it also adds Dazzling Gleam on Togekiss, swaps Roserade for Adaptability Hyper Beam Porygon-Z with Expert Belt BoltBeam and Shadow Ball coverage (basically Kieran's except Expert Belt over Life Orb), and drops Glaceon for Flame Orb Marvel Scale Recover Milotic. A couple of the item choices aren't quite as good and there's still a dearth of strong speed control and positioning moves, but everyone has items and their best abilities.