I don't know if she turned in a tip on this guy, but sex workers do need to turn tips in like this when law enforcement is trying to find a serial killer going after sex workers.
Well the problem is that there’s probably hundreds of people in the NYC area that give such tips and the police can’t do anything with that. That’s obviously not enough for any kind of warrant so what can they do? Follow all these people around that were supposedly “odd”? That would take hundreds of officers. The key to cracking the case was the DNA from the hairs they found and using that to get warrants, look into his phones, and match his DNA to the hairs. All this other stuff is just outside noise that would distract them
@@SueP-jg9vx She said he was specifically talking about the Gilgo beach murders as if he was remembering. She may have turned in a tip. I don't know. But, it is important for sex workers to turn these tips in even if it only goes into an investigative file. It may lead to something later.
@@Susanakhaiyep, addiction makes it so. I struggled with heroin addiction for 12 years before I finally got clean and now that I’ve been clean for a few years i can look back and see what an absolute slave I was to the drug. It impacted my decision making skills immensely. So I can see why his victims ignored their instincts because that addiction said “hey, you’ve been through sketchy situations before. This is a huge payout at the end of this. Just risk it, everything will be okay… *and the worst one* YOU EFFING NEED TO FEED ME TO SURVIVE 💉” 😔. I know because I told myself all those same things when I was in active addiction(although I wasn’t a sex worker, I was involved in other illegal things ie drug stuff).
This is also a massive warning to women in this profession to do everything in their power to get out. It's only a matter of time before you meet someone lethal, and no amount of money is worth the risk.
RH is rare by even serial killer standards. Seemed to study Serial Killers to an extent that he may have tried different MOs as means of exploration. He could end up being one of the most prolific of our time.
I said this exact thing to my boss yesterday! He studied serial killers to copycat their M.Os, especially Bitroff, and he studied John Douglas to fine tune his “craft” even more. I believe the body count is going to be astronomical! I think he left some sloppiness along the way in his early attacks, hence the “how-to” document. He’s an egotistical braggart as evidenced in his community interview where he brags about using a hammer to make things happen (whatever his terminology was). Somebody should tell him to come clean and get the “props” he deserves from his peers, and put these young women to rest across the country. I know people think Asa had something to do with it, I don’t. Even if she were involved in threesomes, it doesn’t make her a killer or even a conspirator to such things. Also, it is starting to seem like his killings spanned more than one relationship, and more female hairs were found that were not victim hairs, nor Asa or her daughter. Didn’t one hair belong to a FORMER female resident of that property who briefly lived with him BEFORE he married Asa? I have wondered at times if “Peaches” wasn’t a former sex worker and came to him with a baby, saying it was his, and he killed them both. And I can just imagine this CRETIN picking up what he THOUGHT was an Asian GIRL, only to find out his Daisy had a “stem” and killed him right away. I can’t wait for it ALL to come out! I am so glad this MONSTER is locked up!!
@@sassynfree884 - I feel like the multiple MOs might have also been an attempt to give the impression that there were multiple killers operating in the area. With Peaches, sadly a lot of sex workers do bring their children on their dates, especially small children who have no understanding of what's going on. Sitter cancels and you can't afford to cancel, especially if that's your only means of providing or you are also supporting an addiction, so it's bring your child to work day. Investigators absolutely need to appeal to RH's ego. I believe they could get a full confession if they had someone like John Douglas approach him. I want to know if he was also responsible for the Atlantic City prostitute murders...The Eastbound Strangler, as the killer is known. The hammer... "My father's Cabinetmaker's hammer..it's very persuasive." My money is on that hammer being crucial in both the prop building and the torture.
He’s not that rare….BTK, Bundy and others have kept logs and other very detail ordered memories! Ya’all just giving Rex what he wants! To be the greatest and a media sensation!!
@@skyeblu1722 the same applies to Asa. Everyone keeps saying “she HAD to have known”. I see her being as innocent as the wives and kids of SO MANY of these guys who were closely involved with other human beings who didn’t have a clue, such as Dahmer, Gacy, BTK and so on. Like you, I don’t see him as “rare” at all for a serial killer, especially when his career and travels are taken into account. He’s an architect. I’m pretty sure they have different means of approaching a task than say, a barista or barber. His notes didn’t surprise me at all, and it’s too bad if he doesn’t come clean about ALL of it. If found guilty in NY, NYers are gonna keep this OGRE alive for maybe 30 years, and if he left a trail of destruction in ANY “DP” state, unless NY changes their ways, he will NOT be extradited to any DP state. Bet? 🤝
@TN-ez6lz God did not create Rex Heuermann to be a sadistic, sexual psychopath. If Rex had drawn close to God, he would never have committed these horrific murders. We can choose to walk in God's ways or the devils way. I believe Nikki Brass listened to the small still voice of God, Psalm 37: 23, Heeding our God given intuition, we move forward in the way that seems wisest, trusting that the Lord is directing our steps.
@@TN-ez6lz The God of this world ( Satan ) is always attacking the innocent. We live in a fallen world. Until the Lord returns, it is my belief that all the little ones that have suffered, they are now safe in Heaven with the Lord, where there is no more tears or suffering. Jesus said, "Let the little ones come to me."
i used to say stuff like that for 40 odd years, but that means a god saw what was happening to all Rex's victims and made the awful heartless decision to not intervene or help them. gods are bronze-age science.
Back when this all started every time he got in front of a camera he put on this over the top performance, im glad he stopped that. Makes me think he actually might care about the families now and not just trying to get exposure and promote himself.
If you’re interested in knowing the truth, though, idk if I’d take much of what he says to heart. I mean, look at his track record and all the people he’s accused over the years that aren’t named Rex Heuermann. These were innocent people and he didn’t know who Rex was until we knew who Rex was. Also all the people that come and tell him stories, that he goes public with, haven’t had their stories verified…there’s nothing to back these stories up and the police wouldn’t go public with such things because it’s sloppy. It looks bad in court when police pushed all these narratives that turn out to be false, or haven’t been proven. So they should be taken with a grain of salt
It's frustrating in a five minute segment with a fascinating guest to hear Ashley do most of the talking. I love Ashley, but News Nation can you please increase the segment times?
Banfield not my cuppa tea, loves her own voice, not impartial at all, reports in a style that puts her own influence and personal beliefs into the storyline.
I have been following this story since I first saw it on the show 48 Hours maybe a year ago?! I can’t believe these details coming out about this case. His “check list” for before, during and after the murder was very disturbing 😳
And his internet searches... absolutely sickening. My theory he knows he's going to be found guilty but just to get some more sick satisfaction watching the suffering of the victims family in court and also the prosecutions evidence will be like reliving it all for him, he's going to get a kick out of the trial.
evil is evil. We live in a fallen world. And sin as consequences. Theres not just one victim here. We are all victims. This effects everyone. As a nation arent we all to blame. We allow pornography that depicts violence against women and children,movies of every depravity worse than the one before, drug overdoses etc etc when does it stop how does it stop we give serial killers more time than God. And dont forget your tax dollars are paying for these people. We are all to blame everyone of us. Nobody gets off scott free. We will all be judged by a higher power.
sshe is so sensayionalistic and makes uninteresting interviews and points. Yjis woman went on a "date" with Heuermann because she was an escort. It is not that she met him at a bookstore and thought he was cool.
@@Elizabethjewel That is crazy talk. she has no reason to lie , also John Ray is where most of the victims actually went to bc they are respected and listened to .. for years police would not listen to any of these women.
@georgewashington3555 she got 1 million reasons to lie.and she never reported it why.if she thought innocent victims died because of him she could have helped
Yeah that’s what I thought too. They’d likely be on camera there too…plus she said her car was there so he would have to go back for her car..and he’d probably be on camera going back for her car, especially since he’d have to walk back for it..or take a taxi, which would leave a paper trail and a witness.
@@dianabehr3169 I think the victims had previously met with Rex before going missing. So she probably would have survived this time and then she’d be more comfortable to go on another date that’s not in such a public setting. I think these workers always want their initial meetings to be in public
Ladies never be afraid to trust your gut. Don't give in to feeling pressured because you don't want to offend someone. ALWAYS trust your instincts. It probably saved this woman's life.
Could be a nervous tick. I smile/grin when I’m put on the spot or uncomfortable. I don’t mean to. One time that sticks out is when I got selected for jury duty. But Idk 🤷🏾♀️
Undoubtedly, this guy is the worst of psychopaths. As per literature, psychopaths possess innate abnormalities regardless of their environments, which is the difference between the psychopath and the sociopath. Hollman (2020) explains the differences between the pathological narcissist, the sociopath and the psychopath. “The main difference between the narcissist and the sociopath or psychopath is that the narcissist may experience or learn to experience some remorse and eventually some empathy for actions that hurt others and his maltreatment is verbal not physically aggressive or violent” (Hollman, 2020). Contrary to the narcissist, sociopaths and psychopaths cannot experience remorse and may be violent. But psychopaths are worse than sociopaths. She highlights the following points about psychopaths: 1. They possess all the characteristics of the sociopath and the narcissist (NPD). 2. They have no regard for right and wrong and thus violate the law and the rights of others. 3. Cannot experience remorse and are extremely violent remaining calm and cold during crimes and after. Brain pathology is found in research studies that reveal abnormalities such as less volume in the area of the brain called the amygdala where fear is processed, empathy is generated, and emotional regulation takes place and in the orbital frontal cortex where decision making occurs. 4. Due to these brain abnormalities, psychopaths don’t process punishment in the same way as normal people. Thus, they are not inclined to respond to punitive behavior by parents or others in authority. That is, punishment does not discourage immoral or violent behavior. 5. Have differences in specific regions of the brain such as fewer connections between the ventromedial prefrontal cortex where feelings of empathy and guilt are processed. It is also found that there are abnormalities in the amygdala where fear and anxiety are mediated. 6. They verbalize without emotion. Even when describing their crimes and basic human needs (food, water, money) they are incapable of feeling and expressing normal human emotions. 7. Evidence supports the affirmation that psychopaths commit more crimes. 8. There is no cure for psychopathy.
The real serial killer got away. He always gets away. And in his wake he always leaves his prey bewildered. Trying to figure out what makes the human serial killer tick. Most humans dont even know there under attack. Because most have humanity is perishing. Our fight is not against flesh and blood. And because all of humanity is flesh and blood that only leaves one person. The person that is not flesh and blood. He exists he is real. His mark is all over the world. Since the beginning of time he as left his mark. And will continue to do so. His mission is to destroy Wemankind. He hates us he always has. He already as set his traps for more victims esp the ones that fall thru the cracks. But he will take anyone. Thats why knowing Jesus matters in a world that does not. His trump card is you not knowing not believing. Its much harder to take down someone who believes in Jesus who knows scripture who knows what they are up against. A human armed with spiritual tools can go to war with this enemy and win. But a human who is not equipped not a believer is up against an ancient foe. As these women those nights. They were up against an imperfect human with demonic evil coursing thru his thoughts heart and soul. There are many rexs but only one demonic evil. By the time these women realized what was happening it was to late. They made there choices and sometimes these are the consequances. Sin as consequances. The wages of sin are death. It is much better to try and do the right thing. Stay in school. Get educated. Lots of people do it. Its not impossible. We have a choice lets do the right thing for all of us.
Maybe the chills come from her being in such a precarious and dangerous situation more so than her picking up on the danger she was in with her intuition. Thank God she didn’t brush it off, and listened to her senses. She may never have seen the light of the next day if she hadn’t left.
As far as the dead toddler goes I believe the escort brought the child along and the person felt the need to kill the child. Probably didnt like the thought of killing the child but she got in the way. And maybe he felt nothing towards anyone so he just killed with no remorse.
Prostitution is as exploitative of girls/women as it gets and we talk about it lately in the public sphere like it’s acceptable, even labeling it “sex work”.
sorry, i'm confused... so why didn't she make a report to the police about this guy? LISK was already known about, the police would have listened... THIS WAS YEARS AGO
“Do you think you would have been one of his victims if you went to his house???” Seriously Ashley??? I’m sure they would have just watched a movie and maybe played Scabble…wtf??
She's just recently added the White Envelope detail to the story as well. That detail came out from the cab driver. She's added several new details as new details were made public. This guy didn't get away with it, for 20 yrs at the time of her story, by taking escorts out in public spaces to case them out first. I can't believe anyone believes her.
Who talks about serial killers on a date? I would think that would be an instant turn off. Women want to laugh and have a good time. Not be creeped out by a gruesome topic.
She "knew" something was wrong. "Knew" the police were looking for a serial killer but didn't open her mouth to anyone---- until after he is arrested and she wants to get some "fame" and a possible book deal😅😅.
@@jennifermarie1230 funny, how they don’t ask her about her 3 kids. Bet you the media has no idea she has 3 kids T the time and still don’t even see them till this day! She will brag on social media about going on a date with this guy though but not her kids!
I saw a previous interview with her, she said she was on probation for drug possession. The terms of her probation stated that if she had any contact with police, even if she called them, she could have her probation revoked and sent to prison immediately.
@@cherylnielson4710this guy represented the family of the first prostitute who's disappearance spark this entire investigation.... Like all lawyers he's looking for airtime and exposure
I am sorry I don't believe her story. Something just doesn't sound right. Why is she the only one coming forward, that he took out to dinner and never had sex. Also she is still alive. All the other victims you don't hear anything about him offering to take them to dinner or even sitting down to talk. He got his sexual from picking these girls up and torture and killing them, He never took any of the girls out to eat shop etc. He picked them up and they disappeared. It dont make sense. There would be alot more woman out there coming forward if he was taking them out on dates.
She didn't date him...😂she didn't even say anything to anyone until after he was arrested she wasn't a victim she's profiting off of these poor victim shes lying i have heard her story change 2 times about her car then she said a friend drove her.cant remember the friends name stop putting money in her pocket
That is so scary! I think a lot of the victims were involved in drugs so maybe in their addiction they didn't have the capacity to trust their instincts. Or were just so desperate to score drugs that they fell into his trap. Its very very sad. Thank god this poor girl got away
1. Meeting an escort is not a "date". 2. Why didn´t she talk to the police? 3. How much did she get for the interview? This smells fishy. I bet the police doesn´t believe her. I heard she was on TMZ before. Cash the cow as long as you can.
1) agreed. It was maybe a dinner date at best. 2). She was on probation for drug possession charges and that was important not to violate. Cops would ask her what exactly she was doing, i.e. trying to earn score money. 3). Enough for a score. 4). In her interviews there’s little inconsistencies and new little bits of info every single time.
I'm pretty sure she has a better recollection of it than you do. Why would you even sit there theorizing different reasons why she left a decade ago? She was an escort, she isn't hiding that fact... normally, going home with a client makes her money. It's pretty reasonable that she opted out of the bigger pay day because her gut told her to leave. I dunno why you'd think up a different version. 😂
@@tishwitch or maybe she's lying to make money by doing interviews. I at first believed her and mostly still do but have a bit of scepticism due to the fact that he met her in a busy restaurant with plenty of witnesses and cameras.
@@sherri-be5pw do you remember who sat next to you at a random restaurant in 2015? Or have an expectation that you're that memorable to a stranger? I couldn't describe the last person ahead of me at Starbucks much less a restaurant 9 years ago. That's a silly reason to discount anyone. Money sure - Heuermann's family already cashed in millions with Peacock... go be outraged where it counts. This former escort isn't looking particularly rich, and her lawyer has a few screws loose... I don't think she's scoring big with a few 5 minute interviews. If she's lying, who cares? Rex's wife's DNA is on victims, he probably filmed the torture. She's a nothingburger.
@@tishwitch I'm speculating just like you are. My opinion is just that and you're entitled to yours like I am to mine. Not a personal attack just doesn't make sense why he would take her to a busy restaurant amd plan to kill her after that with so many witnesses but perhaps you too are right bc I'm not saying I know I'm merely speculating and maybe she did meet the monster that day.
@@sherri-be5pw I suppose it doesn't matter. She has nothing to offer about the murder cases either way. She didn't go to his house. At most she maybe knows his drink of choice. So I guess I don't mind the random "I knew him" interviews. She isn't part of his trial... so it isn't much going to matter if she met Rex or made it up for a few bucks. I think he probably did meet escorts just for $ex and fantasy play though. His wife has cancer. She's had cancer for many years. She often traveled without him. I suspect they led very separate lives for years... between that and his dark fetishes... he definitely could have hired escorts, taken them out for a meal, and decided "case by case" who fit his type to take back and kill. I won't be surprised if we learn that a few got away over the years and never went to the cops. Escorts aren't believed. Cops generally don't care. So to have people come out now, when he's finally been charged, doesn't surprise me. If she's lying, I'm OK with it... it may encourage some true living victims to come forward.
Nothing against her, but she seems to want attention! She doesn't fit his preferred body type... I believe she may have encountered him but I don't think she fit his ideal body preference...
I’m guessing she retained a lawyer because she is on the list of witnesses for his upcoming trial. Better to be protected and guided for when his defense teams rips her apart.
@@jooliagoolia9959Rex is like a good number of real psychopaths. Calculated, organized, collectors. Dexter was a show... an entertaining show. But absolutely nothing like this, except he killed people. Rex is a little like Dahmer, a little like BTK, and frankly he's kinda mostly going to stand out on his own in the list. I can't think of another case where someone kept 30 years worth of video data. Those 450 devices are probably going to help solve a dozen more cases... I don't think there's a Netflix script that reaches the depth of this nuts depravity.
well there are many more creeps out there and many more woman take the risk even normal online dating or regular dating bares a risk never trust anybody no man no woman or whatever.
She looks drunk she’s not credible. I’m sure he’s guilty of everything he’s been charged with but come on give me a break. She can say whatever she wants. He can’t say it didn’t happen.
This is just another example that we need to listen to our internal sense of danger, instead of treating it as something mystical and meaningless. We tend to rely on our logic too much, while our brain is doing all the calculations which consciousness cannot keep up with. After all, years of evolution worked on our survival skills, if you have a chance to use it - use it. I’m glad that this lady felt danger from this monster and listened to herself. But it’s heartbreaking that others didn’t sense it or decided that they are just overthinking it, like many of us do…
So creepy, her spidey sense was up & she didn't ignore her intuition; smart & perceptive woman. And it saved her life. And of these details are probably exactly how he lured each of them to his lair.
He (RH) seemed to talk about his murderous activities in thinly veiled ways for kicks, often. In the 2022 interview he talked about how "persuasive" his cabinet maker's hammer was and almost said the word "women" and then switched to "projects". He said all the, "wo... projects" he used the hammer on turned out beautifully. Beautiful like his Stockholm syndrome daughter's artwork perhaps?
Curt i agree. No offense its strange that anyone wants to be connected to this guy. Its sad that people do tell lies, i am only interested in credible witnesses and testimonies. I mean in general not related to the court case.
I don't know if she turned in a tip on this guy, but sex workers do need to turn tips in like this when law enforcement is trying to find a serial killer going after sex workers.
why would she? cuz he acted odd? thats probably half the city
I agree, however law enforcement doesn't take these girls seriously or don't care. They get treated like garbage from what I heard.
I heard they do..
Well the problem is that there’s probably hundreds of people in the NYC area that give such tips and the police can’t do anything with that. That’s obviously not enough for any kind of warrant so what can they do? Follow all these people around that were supposedly “odd”? That would take hundreds of officers. The key to cracking the case was the DNA from the hairs they found and using that to get warrants, look into his phones, and match his DNA to the hairs. All this other stuff is just outside noise that would distract them
@@SueP-jg9vx She said he was specifically talking about the Gilgo beach murders as if he was remembering. She may have turned in a tip. I don't know. But, it is important for sex workers to turn these tips in even if it only goes into an investigative file. It may lead to something later.
Thank goodness she’s not in that field of work anymore. Sounds absolutely frightening. How brave of her to speak publicly.
Na she is
She’s lying
@@jennifermarie1230I agree! She doesn’t even fit the profile of the girls he went after.
She is still an escort
"field of work" ???
Her instincts saved her life.
Follow your intuition
@@marsinofficial unfortunately many women lose and ignore their intuition. Sex workers are easy targets. This is an extremely sad situation
@@Susanakhaiyep, addiction makes it so. I struggled with heroin addiction for 12 years before I finally got clean and now that I’ve been clean for a few years i can look back and see what an absolute slave I was to the drug. It impacted my decision making skills immensely. So I can see why his victims ignored their instincts because that addiction said “hey, you’ve been through sketchy situations before. This is a huge payout at the end of this. Just risk it, everything will be okay… *and the worst one* YOU EFFING NEED TO FEED ME TO SURVIVE 💉” 😔. I know because I told myself all those same things when I was in active addiction(although I wasn’t a sex worker, I was involved in other illegal things ie drug stuff).
But no1 else’s. She kept that shit to herself.
Trust
This is also a massive warning to women in this profession to do everything in their power to get out. It's only a matter of time before you meet someone lethal, and no amount of money is worth the risk.
Period
100%. I just wish his victims could have had the chance to turn their life around . They were all so young
RH is rare by even serial killer standards. Seemed to study Serial Killers to an extent that he may have tried different MOs as means of exploration. He could end up being one of the most prolific of our time.
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I said this exact thing to my boss yesterday! He studied serial killers to copycat their M.Os, especially Bitroff, and he studied John Douglas to fine tune his “craft” even more. I believe the body count is going to be astronomical! I think he left some sloppiness along the way in his early attacks, hence the “how-to” document.
He’s an egotistical braggart as evidenced in his community interview where he brags about using a hammer to make things happen (whatever his terminology was). Somebody should tell him to come clean and get the “props” he deserves from his peers, and put these young women to rest across the country.
I know people think Asa had something to do with it, I don’t. Even if she were involved in threesomes, it doesn’t make her a killer or even a conspirator to such things. Also, it is starting to seem like his killings spanned more than one relationship, and more female hairs were found that were not victim hairs, nor Asa or her daughter. Didn’t one hair belong to a FORMER female resident of that property who briefly lived with him BEFORE he married Asa?
I have wondered at times if “Peaches” wasn’t a former sex worker and came to him with a baby, saying it was his, and he killed them both. And I can just imagine this CRETIN picking up what he THOUGHT was an Asian GIRL, only to find out his Daisy had a “stem” and killed him right away.
I can’t wait for it ALL to come out! I am so glad this MONSTER is locked up!!
@@sassynfree884 - I feel like the multiple MOs might have also been an attempt to give the impression that there were multiple killers operating in the area. With Peaches, sadly a lot of sex workers do bring their children on their dates, especially small children who have no understanding of what's going on. Sitter cancels and you can't afford to cancel, especially if that's your only means of providing or you are also supporting an addiction, so it's bring your child to work day. Investigators absolutely need to appeal to RH's ego. I believe they could get a full confession if they had someone like John Douglas approach him. I want to know if he was also responsible for the Atlantic City prostitute murders...The Eastbound Strangler, as the killer is known. The hammer... "My father's Cabinetmaker's hammer..it's very persuasive." My money is on that hammer being crucial in both the prop building and the torture.
He’s not that rare….BTK, Bundy and others have kept logs and other very detail ordered memories! Ya’all just giving Rex what he wants! To be the greatest and a media sensation!!
@@skyeblu1722 the same applies to Asa. Everyone keeps saying “she HAD to have known”. I see her being as innocent as the wives and kids of SO MANY of these guys who were closely involved with other human beings who didn’t have a clue, such as Dahmer, Gacy, BTK and so on.
Like you, I don’t see him as “rare” at all for a serial killer, especially when his career and travels are taken into account. He’s an architect. I’m pretty sure they have different means of approaching a task than say, a barista or barber. His notes didn’t surprise me at all, and it’s too bad if he doesn’t come clean about ALL of it. If found guilty in NY, NYers are gonna keep this OGRE alive for maybe 30 years, and if he left a trail of destruction in ANY “DP” state, unless NY changes their ways, he will NOT be extradited to any DP state.
Bet? 🤝
I am so happy for this woman and her Instincts and Her LISTENING to her Instincts ! God Helped her !!!!
Why would god help her but not the others? Why would god have created an RH in the first place?
@TN-ez6lz God did not create Rex Heuermann to be a sadistic, sexual psychopath.
If Rex had drawn close to God, he would never have committed these horrific murders.
We can choose to walk in God's ways or the devils way.
I believe Nikki Brass listened to the small still voice of God, Psalm 37: 23, Heeding our God given intuition, we move forward in the way that seems wisest, trusting that the Lord is directing our steps.
@@kimallistonseekeroftruth If only the babies who have died from AIDS, neglect, abuse, etc. had drawn closer to god.
@@TN-ez6lz The God of this world ( Satan ) is always attacking the innocent. We live in a fallen world. Until the Lord returns, it is my belief that all the little ones that have suffered, they are now safe in Heaven with the Lord, where there is no more tears or suffering. Jesus said, "Let the little ones come to me."
i used to say stuff like that for 40 odd years, but that means a god saw what was happening to all Rex's victims and made the awful heartless decision to not intervene or help them. gods are bronze-age science.
John Ray is the MAN!! An unwavering, loyal, articulate and persistent lawyer and advocate for the victims and their families
Back when this all started every time he got in front of a camera he put on this over the top performance, im glad he stopped that. Makes me think he actually might care about the families now and not just trying to get exposure and promote himself.
He's got to watch was he says though. He is insisting in multiple killers over "hair nets".
If you’re interested in knowing the truth, though, idk if I’d take much of what he says to heart. I mean, look at his track record and all the people he’s accused over the years that aren’t named Rex Heuermann. These were innocent people and he didn’t know who Rex was until we knew who Rex was. Also all the people that come and tell him stories, that he goes public with, haven’t had their stories verified…there’s nothing to back these stories up and the police wouldn’t go public with such things because it’s sloppy. It looks bad in court when police pushed all these narratives that turn out to be false, or haven’t been proven. So they should be taken with a grain of salt
He just put out an insane press conference regarding RHs daughter!!! Crazy stuff!!
@@cindym8401 Is he accusing her now too?
I want to hear from women who maybe went to his home or hotels and survived.
Highly unlikely, with what we read on those latest document, but that would be such an interesting story and key witness.
John Ray is hearing from a lot of women -not all of whom want to talk publicly. Perhaps others would testify in court against this POS
some women hide them dirty past.......
I know. I'm thinking there will be women he's hired who have survived, who likely suggested hotels etc. Certainly in the early days. Slampty
@@PolaPoplawskaanonymously maybe. There has to be survivours.
It's frustrating in a five minute segment with a fascinating guest to hear Ashley do most of the talking. I love Ashley, but News Nation can you please increase the segment times?
Ashley gives me the creeps. She enjoys her own involvement way too much. It's the smirking that gets me.
Banfield not my cuppa tea, loves her own voice, not impartial at all, reports in a style that puts her own influence and personal beliefs into the storyline.
She gets on my nerves.
@@jonoharper4729Exactly. I don't like her.
I love Ashley tbh ya'll just haters
If I had went on a date with a creepy guy who was talking about serial killers, especially a specific one, I would drop a dime to the FBI
I have been following this story since I first saw it on the show 48 Hours maybe a year ago?! I can’t believe these details coming out about this case. His “check list” for before, during and after the murder was very disturbing 😳
That he called victims family and taunted them is crazy.
And his internet searches... absolutely sickening. My theory he knows he's going to be found guilty but just to get some more sick satisfaction watching the suffering of the victims family in court and also the prosecutions evidence will be like reliving it all for him, he's going to get a kick out of the trial.
😳
evil is evil. We live in a fallen world. And sin as consequences. Theres not just one victim here. We are all victims. This effects everyone. As a nation arent we all to blame. We allow pornography that depicts violence against women and children,movies of every depravity worse than the one before, drug overdoses etc etc
when does it stop how does it stop we give serial killers more time than God. And dont forget your tax dollars are paying for these people. We are all to blame everyone of us.
Nobody gets off scott free. We will all be judged by a higher power.
She looks like someone who would be a potential victim of Rex……………
She is an ex escort so yes!
She’s Their Voice Now. 💙👍
Ashleigh is very dramatic in her narratives. ad nauseum
sshe is so sensayionalistic and makes uninteresting interviews and points. Yjis woman went on a "date" with Heuermann because she was an escort. It is not that she met him at a bookstore and thought he was cool.
Ad nauseam.
Not like in museum. Avoid using latin expressions if you don't master or understand them.
Why does a witness need an attorney?
To protect the case
She has been accused of lying. I think she's lying and profiting off of the real victims
@@Elizabethjewel That is crazy talk. she has no reason to lie , also John Ray is where most of the victims actually went to bc they are respected and listened to .. for years police would not listen to any of these women.
@georgewashington3555 she got 1 million reasons to lie.and she never reported it why.if she thought innocent victims died because of him she could have helped
Thought Rex liked THE HUNT, if it's an arranged dinner then there's too many people seeing them together IN PUBLIC
Yeah that’s what I thought too. They’d likely be on camera there too…plus she said her car was there so he would have to go back for her car..and he’d probably be on camera going back for her car, especially since he’d have to walk back for it..or take a taxi, which would leave a paper trail and a witness.
Well, he didn't want her for his girlfriend... So she probably wouldn't have survived unharmed if she had gone "home" or wherever with him 🤔
@@dianabehr3169 I think the victims had previously met with Rex before going missing. So she probably would have survived this time and then she’d be more comfortable to go on another date that’s not in such a public setting. I think these workers always want their initial meetings to be in public
Ladies never be afraid to trust your gut. Don't give in to feeling pressured because you don't want to offend someone. ALWAYS trust your instincts. It probably saved this woman's life.
Wasn't this girl already interviewed and doing the rounds months ago already? I don't feel like this is any new information.
Yes, but she had braids and blonde hair?
0:36 seconds what is her weird smirk? Like oh “here’s my time to be on tv!”
I don’t believe her at all!
This is who Rex’s attorney wants on the stand as the star witness.
Could be a nervous tick. I smile/grin when I’m put on the spot or uncomfortable. I don’t mean to. One time that sticks out is when I got selected for jury duty. But Idk 🤷🏾♀️
Oh, that’s why dated was in parentheses
Nothing gets by you!
Undoubtedly, this guy is the worst of psychopaths. As per literature, psychopaths possess innate abnormalities regardless of their environments, which is the difference between the psychopath and the sociopath. Hollman (2020) explains the differences between the pathological narcissist, the sociopath and the psychopath. “The main difference between the narcissist and the sociopath or psychopath is that the narcissist may experience or learn to experience some remorse and eventually some empathy for actions that hurt others and his maltreatment is verbal not physically aggressive or violent” (Hollman, 2020). Contrary to the narcissist, sociopaths and psychopaths cannot experience remorse and may be violent. But psychopaths are worse than sociopaths. She highlights the following points about psychopaths:
1. They possess all the characteristics of the sociopath and the narcissist (NPD).
2. They have no regard for right and wrong and thus violate the law and the rights of others.
3. Cannot experience remorse and are extremely violent remaining calm and cold during crimes and after. Brain pathology is found in research studies that reveal abnormalities such as less volume in the area of the brain called the amygdala where fear is processed, empathy is generated, and emotional regulation takes place and in the orbital frontal cortex where decision making occurs.
4. Due to these brain abnormalities, psychopaths don’t process punishment in the same way as normal people. Thus, they are not inclined to respond to punitive behavior by parents or others in authority. That is, punishment does not discourage immoral or violent behavior.
5. Have differences in specific regions of the brain such as fewer connections between the ventromedial prefrontal cortex where feelings of empathy and guilt are processed. It is also found that there are abnormalities in the amygdala where fear and anxiety are mediated.
6. They verbalize without emotion. Even when describing their crimes and basic human needs (food, water, money) they are incapable of feeling and expressing normal human emotions.
7. Evidence supports the affirmation that psychopaths commit more crimes.
8. There is no cure for psychopathy.
Thanks
Non murderous narcissists can most definitely be violent. Your cited source is irresponsible to completely exclude such a fact.
The real serial killer got away. He always gets away. And in his wake he always leaves his prey bewildered. Trying to figure out what makes the human serial killer tick. Most humans dont even know there under attack. Because most have humanity is perishing. Our fight is not against flesh and blood. And because all of humanity is flesh and blood that only leaves one person. The person that is not flesh and blood. He exists he is real. His mark is all over the world. Since the beginning of time he as left his mark. And will continue to do so. His mission is to destroy Wemankind. He hates us he always has. He already as set his traps for more victims esp the ones that fall thru the cracks. But he will take anyone. Thats why knowing Jesus matters in a world that does not. His trump card is you not knowing not believing. Its much harder to take down someone who believes in Jesus who knows scripture who knows what they are up against. A human armed with spiritual tools can go to war with this enemy and win. But a human who is not equipped not a believer is up against an ancient foe. As these women those nights. They were up against an imperfect human with demonic evil coursing thru his thoughts heart and soul. There are many rexs but only one demonic evil. By the time these women realized what was happening it was to late. They made there choices and sometimes these are the consequances. Sin as consequances. The wages of sin are death. It is much better to try and do the right thing. Stay in school. Get educated. Lots of people do it. Its not impossible. We have a choice lets do the right thing for all of us.
Maybe the chills come from her being in such a precarious and dangerous situation more so than her picking up on the danger she was in with her intuition. Thank God she didn’t brush it off, and listened to her senses. She may never have seen the light of the next day if she hadn’t left.
As far as the dead toddler goes I believe the escort brought the child along and the person felt the need to kill the child. Probably didnt like the thought of killing the child but she got in the way. And maybe he felt nothing towards anyone so he just killed with no remorse.
See something say something
Prostitution is as exploitative of girls/women as it gets and we talk about it lately in the public sphere like it’s acceptable, even labeling it “sex work”.
what wording do you prefer?
Exactly. How is it even talked about as if it’s a real job?
sorry, i'm confused... so why didn't she make a report to the police about this guy? LISK was already known about, the police would have listened... THIS WAS YEARS AGO
Because she’s a liar
@@jennifermarie1230 And you would know this how?
Because it allegedly would’ve caused a violation of her probation for drug charges.
Because he really didn't do anything... You can't make a report.Just because you talk to somebody creepy
Why does she need an attorney? It was announced that John Ray is her attorney? I'm just curious.
😮 lmao 15 minutes of fame. She's been being interviewed with the same ole story for a year pretty stale
My guess is to protect her from saying something that could be used to imply she was somehow involved.
@@Sunny-xn1rw Well then, John Ray will be busy if all of the women RH had encounters with need an attorney.. Anyway, thanks for your reply
maybe she'll write a book LOL
@@mariaz3886 write a book. Are you kidding me? She’s lying are you people all seriously believing this lady?
a woman with pins in her face and tattoos and west-African ear pieces says a date was "strange" ...
“Do you think you would have been one of his victims if you went to his house???” Seriously Ashley??? I’m sure they would have just watched a movie and maybe played Scabble…wtf??
I hate that she asked that question for dramatic effect . Nikki legit blank staring at her like , are you serious hahaha 😂
I dont believe her, when rex first got arrested she ran to tmz and other media before going to the cops
I'm sceptical as well. Bc he would've been seen with her at the restaurant
She's just recently added the White Envelope detail to the story as well. That detail came out from the cab driver. She's added several new details as new details were made public. This guy didn't get away with it, for 20 yrs at the time of her story, by taking escorts out in public spaces to case them out first. I can't believe anyone believes her.
someone’s looking for a cashgrab
100%
Lolol. Ikr we've heard her story 20 times...and why does she have an attorney lol 😆
❤❤❤100 💯 percent stop putting her on TV she's making money off of real victims
She loves the attention, and loves to get on camera to these networks
no
I wonder how tall she is, I think he had a preference for petite victims.
Her appearance does not help establish her credibility.
"Speak out"---Cashes-in.
What "date" ? She was an escort. That was not a date...
That's why "dated", in quotes was used.
She’s on again?
Being an Escort is crazy.
You would have to be incredibly safety-minded.
Who talks about serial killers on a date? I would think that would be an instant turn off. Women want to laugh and have a good time. Not be creeped out by a gruesome topic.
😮 we've heard her story 20 times. And why does she have a lawyer!?? Lol 😂😆
She’s a liar
She "knew" something was wrong. "Knew" the police were looking for a serial killer but didn't open her mouth to anyone---- until after he is arrested and she wants to get some "fame" and a possible book deal😅😅.
First I've heard of it
Was he married already then? Rex is a monster!
He was married since the 1990s... 5 of the 6 murder charged occurred during his marriage.
he married two times ,with Asa 1996.
This girls a con artist trust me
She should be more worried about her kids she don’t see lol
Omg! She is, and I cannot believe how many people under this video believe her 😂😂😂
@@jennifermarie1230 funny, how they don’t ask her about her 3 kids. Bet you the media has no idea she has 3 kids T the time and still don’t even see them till this day! She will brag on social media about going on a date with this guy though but not her kids!
@@jennifermarie1230 Banfield eats this shit up. It's nauseating.
Ashleigh you are unwatchable
Moral of the story ~ Don’t grow up and be an Escort by profession.
Moral of the story- parents raise your children in a way that they don’t have to resort to such a ‘profession’ to survive.
Dated? "Don't get fckn filthy about it" lol
Thanks Ralph!😂
She had these weird conversations about serial killings, but yet never alerted the police.
why does she have a lawyer?
Dated him, he was married, lol. Horrible dude
Out of all the things that would make him a horrible person you choose the fact that he was married? Your comment was so dumb i had to reply.
This network is trash!!
Can it be as bad as cnn and msnbc? Can you believe one thing on this network?...
If so that's one more thing than you can believe on cnn/msnbc..
Sorry I've never believed her story.
Me either!
Old news. We’ve seen this lady being interviewed many times since just after Rex was arrested. A bit late on the draw AB.
There's something about this woman I just can't get behind her being honest. Money talks ya know lol. Gut instinct I guess
So why didn’t she go to authorities?
I saw a previous interview with her, she said she was on probation for drug possession. The terms of her probation stated that if she had any contact with police, even if she called them, she could have her probation revoked and sent to prison immediately.
@@wailnshredshe can call the police if she sees a crime taking place
@@wailnshred that makes no sense. She has a right to police protection even if she were a convicted felon.
@@TheTroothseekr I just wrote what I heard in the other interview.
@@wailnshred I understand. I’m just commented on the info you gave. Not blaming you in any way.
Wow!
She's gone back to whorin
When I saw the thumbnail of Ashleigh, my first thought was “ she looks like Monica Lewinsky”
Old news
This chick has talked about this with numerous news channels shortly after this freak was arrested.
Why does she have a lawyer with her? Odd choice.
@@cherylnielson4710this guy represented the family of the first prostitute who's disappearance spark this entire investigation.... Like all lawyers he's looking for airtime and exposure
@@cherylnielson4710 she does now not last year when we heard her story. She most likely is going to be a prosecution witness now hence the lawyer.
I can’t believe that the reporter or even her says that she Enjoys true crime. Such horrors they enjoy it. It’s terrible unawareness
I am sorry I don't believe her story. Something just doesn't sound right. Why is she the only one coming forward, that he took out to dinner and never had sex. Also she is still alive. All the other victims you don't hear anything about him offering to take them to dinner or even sitting down to talk. He got his sexual from picking these girls up and torture and killing them, He never took any of the girls out to eat shop etc. He picked them up and they disappeared. It dont make sense. There would be alot more woman out there coming forward if he was taking them out on dates.
She didn't date him...😂she didn't even say anything to anyone until after he was arrested she wasn't a victim she's profiting off of these poor victim shes lying i have heard her story change 2 times about her car then she said a friend drove her.cant remember the friends name stop putting money in her pocket
That is so scary! I think a lot of the victims were involved in drugs so maybe in their addiction they didn't have the capacity to trust their instincts. Or were just so desperate to score drugs that they fell into his trap. Its very very sad. Thank god this poor girl got away
1. Meeting an escort is not a "date".
2. Why didn´t she talk to the police?
3. How much did she get for the interview?
This smells fishy. I bet the police doesn´t believe her. I heard she was on TMZ before. Cash the cow as long as you can.
1) agreed. It was maybe a dinner date at best.
2). She was on probation for drug possession charges and that was important not to violate. Cops would ask her what exactly she was doing, i.e. trying to earn score money.
3). Enough for a score.
4). In her interviews there’s little inconsistencies and new little bits of info every single time.
The wife knew.
If you increase the playback speed. She sounds much better
You mean a bit more sober.
I bet both party’s were scared of each other on that date lmao 😂
So creepy that he had those white envelopes ready and implied they were full of money. Like that was the cheese he baited his lethal trap with.
This girl had a guardian angel with her .Thank god she got a weird feeling from him .
If she's on camera she MUST have contacted LE. Unless she reached out to a reporter once they arrested RH.
This lady is enjoying this way to much!! Likes the media attention!!
Maybe it was fate combined with her instincts. Perhaps she had another client call while with RH and this is what changed her mind
I'm pretty sure she has a better recollection of it than you do. Why would you even sit there theorizing different reasons why she left a decade ago? She was an escort, she isn't hiding that fact... normally, going home with a client makes her money. It's pretty reasonable that she opted out of the bigger pay day because her gut told her to leave. I dunno why you'd think up a different version. 😂
@@tishwitch or maybe she's lying to make money by doing interviews. I at first believed her and mostly still do but have a bit of scepticism due to the fact that he met her in a busy restaurant with plenty of witnesses and cameras.
@@sherri-be5pw do you remember who sat next to you at a random restaurant in 2015? Or have an expectation that you're that memorable to a stranger? I couldn't describe the last person ahead of me at Starbucks much less a restaurant 9 years ago. That's a silly reason to discount anyone. Money sure - Heuermann's family already cashed in millions with Peacock... go be outraged where it counts. This former escort isn't looking particularly rich, and her lawyer has a few screws loose... I don't think she's scoring big with a few 5 minute interviews. If she's lying, who cares? Rex's wife's DNA is on victims, he probably filmed the torture. She's a nothingburger.
@@tishwitch I'm speculating just like you are. My opinion is just that and you're entitled to yours like I am to mine. Not a personal attack just doesn't make sense why he would take her to a busy restaurant amd plan to kill her after that with so many witnesses but perhaps you too are right bc I'm not saying I know I'm merely speculating and maybe she did meet the monster that day.
@@sherri-be5pw I suppose it doesn't matter. She has nothing to offer about the murder cases either way. She didn't go to his house. At most she maybe knows his drink of choice. So I guess I don't mind the random "I knew him" interviews. She isn't part of his trial... so it isn't much going to matter if she met Rex or made it up for a few bucks.
I think he probably did meet escorts just for $ex and fantasy play though. His wife has cancer. She's had cancer for many years. She often traveled without him. I suspect they led very separate lives for years... between that and his dark fetishes... he definitely could have hired escorts, taken them out for a meal, and decided "case by case" who fit his type to take back and kill. I won't be surprised if we learn that a few got away over the years and never went to the cops. Escorts aren't believed. Cops generally don't care. So to have people come out now, when he's finally been charged, doesn't surprise me. If she's lying, I'm OK with it... it may encourage some true living victims to come forward.
I wonder where his new dumping ground is..
I’ll bet he got off on taking this conversation to the brink of confession and then pulling back
So much for The Sisterhood, she said nothing at the time 🙄
Cops will not bust someone due to bad vibes
@@RawOlympia I said The Sisterhood not the cops
She was probably terrified, what is your problem?
@@chilo8187 I just stated my problem, what's yours?
@@EllieAussie.. That you’re being nasty and blame-y of a woman that was in a terrifying situation. Put the blame on Heuermann where it belongs
Cash 💵 😮grab time 😮
there must be more witnesses outside
Why does Niki need an attorney?!…..
Because lying might come back on her pretty hard.
Nothing against her, but she seems to want attention! She doesn't fit his preferred body type... I believe she may have encountered him but I don't think she fit his ideal body preference...
It’s silly to pretend to be something you are not, an escort is the same as a prostitute, why pretend otherwise?
That woman is scary. Rather than needing an attorney she needs a keeper.
What is that drawing on the right?
She looks much younger with darker hair & fits the profile/type of the women he sought.
Why does she need a lawyer for? Is she looking to cash in on this serial killer....maybe, write a book and get rich.
I’m guessing she retained a lawyer because she is on the list of witnesses for his upcoming trial. Better to be protected and guided for when his defense teams rips her apart.
its funny she didn't mention this to anyone before he was arrested
That comment just tells everyone you know nothing about psychology or social pressure.
Rex was Dexter before Dexter was Dexter!
Except Rex had no code.
Not quite
@@cheriboberry1808 I was quoting a lawyer Podcaster.
I should have said Dexter without a code
@@jooliagoolia9959Rex is like a good number of real psychopaths. Calculated, organized, collectors. Dexter was a show... an entertaining show. But absolutely nothing like this, except he killed people.
Rex is a little like Dahmer, a little like BTK, and frankly he's kinda mostly going to stand out on his own in the list. I can't think of another case where someone kept 30 years worth of video data. Those 450 devices are probably going to help solve a dozen more cases... I don't think there's a Netflix script that reaches the depth of this nuts depravity.
@@tishwitch meghan markle was lucky.......
@@PolaPoplawska huh
Date??
well there are many more creeps out there and many more woman take the risk even normal online dating or regular dating bares a risk never trust anybody no man no woman or whatever.
Who the fuck would have dated him?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$.....
She looks drunk she’s not credible. I’m sure he’s guilty of everything he’s been charged with but come on give me a break. She can say whatever she wants. He can’t say it didn’t happen.
Cameras are every where these days....even back in 2010...surprised he was not spotted or tracked down sooner.
This is just another example that we need to listen to our internal sense of danger, instead of treating it as something mystical and meaningless. We tend to rely on our logic too much, while our brain is doing all the calculations which consciousness cannot keep up with. After all, years of evolution worked on our survival skills, if you have a chance to use it - use it.
I’m glad that this lady felt danger from this monster and listened to herself. But it’s heartbreaking that others didn’t sense it or decided that they are just overthinking it, like many of us do…
A difference between innocent and guilty women ?
What i wonder why they suspected him?
So creepy, her spidey sense was up & she didn't ignore her intuition; smart & perceptive woman. And it saved her life. And of these details are probably exactly how he lured each of them to his lair.
So sad how she’s vandalized herself in so many ways.
I thought she was Natasha Lyonne for a sec.
Sounds like her too
That sicko mutilated that poor Woman's ears!
Who’s ears
He (RH) seemed to talk about his murderous activities in thinly veiled ways for kicks, often. In the 2022 interview he talked about how "persuasive" his cabinet maker's hammer was and almost said the word "women" and then switched to "projects". He said all the, "wo... projects" he used the hammer on turned out beautifully. Beautiful like his Stockholm syndrome daughter's artwork perhaps?
Curt i agree. No offense its strange that anyone wants to be connected to this guy. Its sad that people do tell lies, i am only interested in credible witnesses and testimonies. I mean in general not related to the court case.
She made this whole thing up and is paid for a lot of her interviews.. FYI..The attorney is a joke too.
Dangerous place
I thought he's married