Gilgo Beach killings: Deep dive on accused serial killer Rex Heuermann's planning documents | Banfie
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- NewsNation's Ashleigh Banfield does a deep dive on accused serial killer Rex Heuermann's planning documents. Heuermann, the man suspected of killing four women found near Long Island’s Gilgo Beach, was charged in the murders of two more women Thursday.
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Hair nets just means buy more than one. Wouldn’t persuade me that it meant he had help.
Right. They come in multi-packs.
Also, he may be wearing one and putting one on the victim.
Yeah, and they're one time use items so come in packs of 3 or whatever
I thought it interesting that he even brought that up; 1) he's not the prosecutor, and 2) his client isn't a suspect, so what was the point to bringing that up?
@@tracysires2234 I think he was just trying to guess at what angle the defense might be plagued with approaching these discoveries.
I don't think going out on a date with a woman and talking about serial killers is a very good idea.
I don’t think he could help himself
@@VideoStar-nw3mh Agree with you it must be like a thrist inside of them that they just have to quench at times; how ugly/horrendous
He intended on killing her, so thought it didn't matter. He wanted to make sure she knew enough to be properly terrified when it was time.
But he wasn’t planning a second date, she was an escort at the time, he was planning her end. Just wanted to see her reaction and probably enjoying having the upper hand like ‘haha she doesn’t know what I have planned later’ another part of his power trip
@@virginiainla8085 I'd say he's a bit obsessive and can't help himself
Undoubtedly, this guy is the worst of psychopaths. As per literature, psychopaths possess innate abnormalities regardless of their environments, which is the difference between the psychopath and the sociopath. Hollman (2020) explains the differences between the pathological narcissist, the sociopath and the psychopath. “The main difference between the narcissist and the sociopath or psychopath is that the narcissist may experience or learn to experience some remorse and eventually some empathy for actions that hurt others and his maltreatment is verbal not physically aggressive or violent” (Hollman, 2020). Contrary to the narcissist, sociopaths and psychopaths cannot experience remorse and may be violent. But psychopaths are worse than sociopaths. She highlights the following points about psychopaths:
1. They possess all the characteristics of the sociopath and the narcissist (NPD).
2. They have no regard for right and wrong and thus violate the law and the rights of others.
3. Cannot experience remorse and are extremely violent remaining calm and cold during crimes and after. Brain pathology is found in research studies that reveal abnormalities such as less volume in the area of the brain called the amygdala where fear is processed, empathy is generated, and emotional regulation takes place and in the orbital frontal cortex where decision making occurs.
4. Due to these brain abnormalities, psychopaths don’t process punishment in the same way as normal people. Thus, they are not inclined to respond to punitive behavior by parents or others in authority. That is, punishment does not discourage immoral or violent behavior.
5. Have differences in specific regions of the brain such as fewer connections between the ventromedial prefrontal cortex where feelings of empathy and guilt are processed. It is also found that there are abnormalities in the amygdala where fear and anxiety are mediated.
6. They verbalize without emotion. Even when describing their crimes and basic human needs (food, water, money) they are incapable of feeling and expressing normal human emotions.
7. Evidence supports the affirmation that psychopaths commit more crimes.
8. There is no cure for psychopathy.
Wow, gr8 research, you've been reading up on it, I can tell lolol
They are wrong tho, some psychopath and sociopath can experience guilt or remorse, they just don't experience it likea normal person tho. Even ted bundy himself said he could experience guilt, it just didn't last long enough for it to matter
@@nomanejane5766 bundy was a sociopath so they tend to be emo than psychopaths. I don't believe psychopaths have brain abnormalities but possess genes than contribute to sadistic / murderous behavior in the "right" environment. i.e. neglect/abused. But I'm no expert just my OP. Also, I bet RH actually MEANT to misspell words incase if the list ever was discovered.
No way! Rex has more victims, where was his starting point? I believe it was way before 1993....
I agree. He more than likely has victims going back into the mid-late 1980s.
@@TheRealZarp for sure! I hope they find out the truth and the families get some answers and closure.
9-12 * new york alone (2 from jerseyy) as of 2015. Who knows how many as of bow. And that's just new york. Don't forget pa, nc and Vegas.
@@Dee-dee744That will only be after the trial , if he decides to boast .
I don’t believe his wife didn’t know. I don’t think his kids did but his wife is still standing by him and i think they had an understanding and she would take the kids and go on ‘vacation’ whenever he had to do whatever he was doing.
His wife knew
100 💯 agree! I believe she knew about his sicko side... Anything to keep him and his money. She admitted she liked his money...
like many women she did not want to know
That's a very interesting view, I've never heard that analogy, you could be right.
I feel bad for his kids but like you there is no way this woman didn’t know he was crazy.
He is an EVIL MONSTER. They walk among us. Frightening. Horrific. Praying for the families of the murdered young ladies. Rest In Peace Angels. ♥➕♥🙏
I was at his arraignment. He is pure evil.
There are lots of them out there. It's never been easier to pick up distressed people and make them "disappear" forever. My own son has been missing for 4 years. I may never know if that was his own choice - to go "off the grid" - or if somebody took advantage of his distress. He was troubled the last time we spoke. Had been for quite awhile. Unfortunately, I have had to learn things I never wanted to know about missing Americans and predatory psychopaths. It happens every single day by the thousands. Parents are on their own when they search for their missing kids. It can consume your whole life. Sigh.
@@jabbermocky4520I can’t imagine what you are going through. Have you tried a PI to help? There is a non profit called PI for the missing that will do it for free.
These are only allegations and we should all take a step back. Most ppl thought OJ was guilty and dragged his name thru the mud. Bet they all felt pretty dumb when we found out he was innocent after all.
How is that possible??
He is a white male republican.
There’s always red flags…..
I’m glad people are stepping up…
So annoying when the seconds are counted down with guests
it happens SO often... maybe if the hosts talked less there would be enough time??
@@tracysires2234Ashleigh loves speaking and holding forth .
I'm repulsed in a sick way I kept watching and listening to this news
It's crazy that this is real life!!
"Photo film" was on his list - there are photos, or at least negatives
Pictures were probably posted on the Dark Web and then destroyed
They confiscated so many computer, laptops, discs and phones is unbelievable!!
@@lidiaolejnik4723 Yes! WHO OWNS ALL THAT STUFF? Serial killers and pornographers. I wonder if he was selling snuff films for money? I'd sure hate to be on THAT jury. Ugh
The dog is the keeper of the family secrets. He knows exactly what went down in the creepy family.
I thought from the beginning that the house is way to small for his family not to know what was going on and the fact that his wife continues to stick by him knowing what hes being accused of. Shows how sick she is. Imo!
A small house, How could you not see the amount of cameras, computers, etc. 4 people living there? How could you not notice all those items? Very puzzling 🤔
In a "normal" home, these things would jump out. But there was quite an established hoard in that house, so they were probably all lost in the chaos. Best camouflage, actually.... 😬
Well, I guess that means he's innocent and was framed. Clearly the fact that his home was filthy and filled with junk and smelled horrible had nothing to do with missing obscure evidence that was hidden away with the explicit intention of it not being found easily at all.
I know he is gonna say he was writing a book - this was why he wrote these things down. However - he tried using a computer cleaning tool to delete these files. If you were writing a book you’d keep it - right? It’s scary and sinister - makes my skin crawl. It makes me so upset with our world. That these types of men live and work amongst us and hide in plain sight. Wow!
i really think that it will come out that his wife knew what he was doing. He made a torture table for goodness sake!
Ashley, you do the best deep dives. Love your reporting. Well done
He probably had way more victims they haven’t found yet.
I mean they've found alot of them, he just hasn't been charged
I heard of a scenario where a wife condoned rape, beatings, and other bad acts of her husband to keep him from doing the same things to her. She said nothing to any one about any of it until the investigation and trial happened.
But his wife still stands by him…
Jimmy Mack is totally a quintessential Massapequa Park guy. Makes me homesick for Long Island.
The case is missing his accomplices. There more to this LONG ISLAND HORROR. Move victims, more information and more to discover. Spelling may lead to his accomplice. This is only the beginning of this case discovery.
Tip of the Iceberg!
hair nets' could be multiple for the victims too, does not mean multiple perpetrators, not to me. He is trying to cover all bases, hair net for himself, does he need 2 because he has a large head, or to put them on the victim in order to contain their hair, i.e. one of his possible problems? or perhaps he has had more than 1 victim at some time,. that's another possibility, I love the victims lawyer, he is really cool, love his style & commitment however he needs to remain open minded as far as the reasoning goes for the 'problem document', anything is possible except a serial killer, in general, will not use co conspirators, firstly, they can turn on you so there's the number one problem right there.
He also wouldn't want to keep going out to buy single hair nets if he's a serial killer, he would need them for when he was in the "mood" for hunting etc. You wouldn't just buy 1, that would be a hassle to keep restocking, they probably coming in multiples so hair nets, Idn, it doesn't mean he has someone helping him.
If you really look into serial killers most of them have had accomplices or spoke of accomplices that were never caught. John Wayne Gacy for example. Most of them are connected to government or military also and have history of at least dabbling in the occult
The fact that he took his victims home to torture And kill means the likelihood his wife had knowledge of his acts.
You shouldn’t love John Ray. He’s in it for himself and his own limelight. Even the Gilbert’s, his own client, feud with him. He’s disgusting 🤢 and foul
@@Serenityfor1 not necessarily, the Green River Killer took his victims home too, his wife had no idea! Neither did BTK, he killed a neighbour too.
Your right. Except for 1 victim. 1 victim was rex & others for fun, a hunt. She's the inly girl he remembers by name and it's because it ended up being sloppy and almost getting him caught.
Maybe Asa is standing by her man because she is an accomplice!!!!!!
Possible
I still think there more people involved
This news reporter and her opening little monologue is the absolute worst. The way she speaks is if she's talking about what happened in sports this week.
don't think living two blocks down and two blocks over qualified as being a neighbor.
And what a pointless story...Rex walked by and said something about a parked car...what a bombshell!
What's with these people with random run-ins with this guy trying to inject themselves in the case.
Dyslexic does not mean stupid.
I was wondering that, too. I know several people with dyslexia. All are very intelligent and also terrible at spelling.
This was done on purpose.on repeat.so if the carbed.file were found and whe. Sifting threw they'd use key words and hoped it would mask this
Possible defense will go insanity of duel personalities. Mab be Rex is dyslexic and wrote plan without spell check as he was 'relaxing' at home.
@@nicolebrass4399 interesting 🤔
I’m lysdexic
This is the smoking gun we were waiting for. Also his wife says he can’t have done this. Really? Did you know what your hubby was doing when you took trips to your homeland for 2-3 months? Nope! He has her brainwashed. Yuck!
I wonder if the wife and kids always being outta town when all of this happened is a ploy by the whole family
Do you have to talk to us like we’re idiots?
That's Ashley's style now. She morphed from a professional talking head, to a character of "ditsy teacher."
She self proclaims that she is the world's most knowledgeable person when it comes to "true crime"....and her only credentials are obsessively watching the same crime-based tv shows and blogs that every other unemployed housewife reads.
Quite frankly, I think people like Ashley that utterly obsess over murderers rapists, and tortures are actually little "weird" themselves...
Go back and research all the bodies found near/on Gilgo Beach. There was a young, Asian male found back around 2011. Absolutely related to Rex's "Asian Twink" search.
How is this not a slam dunk case? If I were his attorney I’d be telling him to pled guilty.
He enjoys the show, ig he wanted dit over with he'd confess to all of the women not just the 6 he's tied to so far, he wants the spectacle. I'd be SHOCKED if he took a plea and doesnt go to trial
@@nicolebrass4399Totally disagree. Hes trying to get off. No death penalty in NY, so why not try to fight it? Hes 60 years old, overweight, so if SOMEHOW he WAS to be offered a plea, its still a death sentence for him, and he knows that.
I just dont buy the spectacle theory. This guy loved the murders themselves, but also, in my opinion, loved being SMARTER than everyone. It even oozed out of him in the TH-cam interview he did with that one guy.
Now that hes caught, and the evidence is there, the smarter than everyone and getting away with it, is gone. I dont think he feels good about this all coming into the limelight at all, because he lost.
@@nicolebrass4399I agree .
His wife has way more involvement than she’s letting on imo. Rex’s victim count is double figures imo, like many many more victims across multiple states.
I pray that the victims and their families receive the justice they deserve 🙏🏼
You. Are. Correct.
She's not native english speaking, are this her spelling mistakes?
@@nicolebrass4399 💯 🙏🏼
@@michelpeereboom4650she actually has a USA accent I heard her voice for the first time on a video clip where she was telling reporters to go away, it could have been a dictorphone type device or deliberate so words don't come up on searches by foresics of his hard drive who knows I am interested to know as we are told his grammar and spelling is excellent within work
@@JASuperflex1 I have family immigrated to US and they all speak with a US accent.
Most engineers I worked with could also not spell, or string a whole sentence. Also struggled with compiling paragraphs.
My husband and son are both engineers and their spelling is meticulous. They also write very well.
Dyslexia and being an engineer go hand in hand much of the time. They have much higher spatial intelligence but are dyslexic. My husband is this way. Can build anything but can’t spell to save his life. He listens to lots of audiobooks lol
He doesn’t murder people though. Just thought I’d add that part. 😅
My dad was an engineer and I’ve not heard this before. He could spell just fine, although I’m speaking of his 2nd or third language (English).
@@ChalNjurshEp tis a fact sir! (Not everyone obviously that would be ridiculous) but it is very very common. A lot of mechanics and similar professions too. That’s where you find the dyslexics lol
OBVIOUSLY his wife is a co-conspirator, the bad spelling, it all adds up, the swingers, the years in a marriage and she was oblivious? No WAY she didnt know.
BTK's wife didn't know. The Green River Killers wife didn't know. So yeah its possible she didn't know. Unless they find some way to show she was involved she wasnt involved. To me, when this guy was arrested, his wife seemed thrilled to get rid of him.
@@sissykim3975she is visiting him weekly.
And her dba was in multiple bodies. Not to mention the baby swaddled and wrapped in a blanket. Something a woman would do.
@@sissykim3975But they killed outside of there home, he took them inside this very little house.
@@michelpeereboom4650 True and maybe. They have to prove she knew. Not so easy.
The Question is, what did the Wife know and what did the Daughter know? What did the Son know? I don´t believe, he lived a double Life. They have to investigate the Family, too.
His wife and kids must have known. Too much happened in their home.
An architect who has many spelling mistakes and lived in a run-down house...
He is not exactly an architect, but an architectural consultant, but yeah -- atrocious spelling!!!!
His house wasn't that run down till they raided it. The police have torn that shit up. Also, he made typos on purpose to try to avoid detection in key search words.
An employee of his said she believes he used a talk to text program. She said he was meticulous in his work and never would have misspelled words.
He did the misspelling on purpose. It makes it harder to find the key words if someone is looking for it. The FBI does this to avoid FOIA when they search data bases they will use a lo instead of b or vv instead of w. Etc.
Yuppp
Mindhunter sounds like an Austin Powers villain.
Didn’t any of the neighbors hear anything. Some places the neighbors are so noisy you can not sneeze and the town knows about it.
Sound proofed basement i think
But surely you see him going in and out the house at odd hours....my neighbour's are so nosey they drive me mad😮😮😮
I’ve been to the house. All the houses around his house are small and close together. The basement could have been sound proofed but who knows.
@@touche7174 depends on the neighbours, how faraway they are, when they work, if they work, I mean when you are inside you wouldn't see or hear anything depending on the building construction. RH house is an old, stand alone home, he could drive into his garage if he's disabled them, knocked them out or something like that. Obviously no one did see him, he's been living there since he was born by the sounds of it.
@@truecrimeLIQuestion for you, and if you dont know, dont worry about it. This man was supposedly pretty successful. Having an office in Manhattan for as long as he did, cant possibly be cheap. I forget if this house was a family home that has been around for generations, but in looking at it, it is pretty small and plain Jane.
How much are we talking about for a property like that? I know anything out of the city is expensive, but im just curious? What would a house like that cost in today's market? Probably a lot considering what you get.
Im sorry but the wife staying with a Monster is beyond sick herself. She's not in denial she knows dam well why shes deciding to stay with someone who has done this. Shame on her for not feeling horrendous for what the victims have been through.
I still cant get over that we are witnessing maybe one of the worst cases and most evil serial killers we have seen.. definitely in the last decades.. for 1 the case is just crazy for so many years and just so many things happened but those documents and seeing everything RH did and planned is mind blowing and so disturbing
I feel like most the SKs and the cases go back decades/centuries … not as many of them anymore, especially the true SK and this one is happening in live time pretty much… i mean a lot of his crimes happened awhile ago but some crimes may be more recent and him being caught and the public finding everything out still is all recent… plus the fact its happening in New York/where he worked just makes it crazier and Long Island has some of the nicest beaches in the country and now some of them are more spooky and gotta wonder if you are going to walk into a body
OJ was obviously guilty and so was Casey Anthony but they were acquitted. So it ain't over til it's over.
Thank you so much
Get an interview with rexs employeees and see if they seen his spelling errors
They did, his employee told court tv he has no spelling problems.
Not a chance the wife at the very least didn't know. That unique belt found with the initials and shown on the news etc. But I think she was involved turned a blind eye
My uncle has an engineering degree. He is a brilliant man......who used to call my Mimi to double check the spelling of words lol Spelling is not the strong point of some engineering majors. In fact, there's a whole line of gifts dedicated to this issue.
My spouse is a very talented engineer, and he has a hard time with spelling and grammar. I think this is a pretty common trait.
@@breathlesshaste Maybe it's because the mathematical side of their brain gets all the love lol
Bs to misspelling that is to confuse
Did anyone else see how Rex was smirking while in front of the judge. This has become a game for this sadistic psychopath! BTW: the “hair net(s)” hypothesis, is ridiculous! That John Ray is something!
Rex killed alone as far as I k ow for all women but 1. And that ended up almost getting him caught. Hairnets was for future killings, rips, and what not. John Ray is just trying to hint here. Also. His wife's DNA was found in multiple bodies when he killed Ina. Torture cha ber his wife had supposedly never seen or been in, if that was the case her DNA wouldn't be all over the body.
I am sure his wife left on vacation more than 6 times in 31 years!
What a hack. Hair net, Hair nets doesn't mean he had an accomplice. That lawyer comes off like a weirdo.
This lawyer jumps out of every bush!
Regarding the spelling you might want to test about 70 percent of university graduates who are no longer taught how to write. That also is a crime.
Could his wife have typed that list?
Possible! Or done on purpose to throw investigators off. There is something off with Asa. She gives me the creeps.
This guy definitely videoed and took pictures of the victims. Someone that has that many hard drives and was so involved in everything he would want to relive it all but watching it
There is no way he will plead, no way, he'll want to drag his whole miserable life through the courts with pride whilst forcing all the families to see exactly what hes done.
Rex in his basement wearing a hair net with his little hammer and a hard point. Absolutely terrifying 😨
RH spells like that Baby Reindeer lady. Sent frum my iphon
Joel Guy,jr had a plan list,even though he only killed 2 people, his parents
One of the scariest people out there
Kris Mohandie got himself a Secret Lab chair. Hell yeah.
i keep thinking about what the “HK” means… huermann killings, hunting kills, how to kill?
Quintuple? Thought there were six which would be a sextet would it not??
Yes, it WAS but not now - sextet is an unfortunate term, though 😂
How???? He's a psychopath, that's how.
I figured anyone who's graduated college or high School in the late 90s would know the only way that fire is truly deleted is if it's overwritten
Omg. His wife was a redhead. 🥶😓
“I’ll be back” such an innocuous statement that doesn’t necessarily imply he’s gonna do anything violent but Rex knows it can be received that way.
His defense does not have a chance!!! Tell him. To plead guilty
The poor Defence Lawyer looks haggard having spent time listening and responding to his client Rex!
This dude is seriously twisted. What a psychopath. His outline of what he wants and plans is seriously disturbing.
I think that lawyer emptying her trash three times a day is VERY suspicious!! Someone investigate that woman!! 😂😂😂
She did not go on a date....
He has a Good Telephone Voice. I Can See How He Could Have Lured them In. Extremely Disturbing Revelations! Good Point About his Spelling Errors Being a “Signature”.👍 Seems it’s, “Game Over” . 🤲⚖️
Why does she need a lawyer????
I don't he's the victims lawyer and my general attorney but not regarding this unless he goes.to trial and I testify
@@nicolebrass4399 sorry you had to recount that horrible situation,I wish you the very best with your future and am glad you are still here with us today
have they heard of dyslexia???
and or people who are good in math areas tend to be weak in language skills like spelling.
@@sissykim3975Not really…
Right, I'm very good in spelling both in German and English...but I have dyscalculia, like no ability and understanding of number-based information and math. But I'd consider myself pretty smart. Serial killer aside, it is not okay to mock,question and point out to the whole world, someone's ability to spell.
Why would there be mis spellings if he used a computer? No spell check?
Keyword searches.
If you need one egg for a recipe and need to buy them..do you write down "egg" or "eggs" on the shopping list....ray is an ambulance chaser and wants to tie his wofe to this at any cost..sonhe can get that money from peacock channel
Amen. John Ray is sort of sick to me…
Great panel!
FAMILY ALWAYS
ALWAYS KNOWS!!!!!
Using dyslexia as a sign of stupidity is stupid in itself. Einstein had it. The news reader is a muppet. 😂
Hair nets come in a package.
I'm sorry but the analysis of the list of objects and the misspelling by the DR was amateurish, if he can't see the perverse word play in those words... Miss Leaders... probably talking about ropes or chains or leashes tie wraps or something of the like to control his victims. Or misleading elements to leave behind or plant to confude eventual investigators, maybe like his wife's hair... I don't want to go through all the list, for my own mental health. Check against the rest of the things he was writing in his daily life, this is his real persona, not the social facade he built for himself, this was "playtime Rex".
Omg pascal, i sent you a long document about this, u never responded! Months ago.
My father worked for NASA as an electronic engineer on the Mercury and Gemini missions, a literal rocket scientist and he spelled my first name Karen with 2 "r"s. Karren.
Hair nets: I believe they were for RH - in industries where hair nets are required, the moment you take a net off it needs to be replaced with a clean one to eliminate contamination. It's my understanding Rex would keep these ladies for multiple days - so he would need several hair nets for every event.
30:00 that was the most NY story ever 🙄🤣
If it was not him , then the evidence would not be in his home .
Shannon gilberts disapearance finally bought him out and the trueth RIP SHANNON 😢😢
At last this comment. Bless Shannon 🙏🙏😥😥
Maybe he asked the wife to take the kids away that weekend. Maybe she obliged
How do you know that someone didn't write with him or for him!
Shrekx Heuermann...
Ohhhh soo.darm.chilling😮
Maybe he was using voice to text software, it wasnt the best all those years ago.
His wife never seen this ????
I doubt she has ever questioned him. He's a controlling, narcissistic psychopath. I thought she was like a mail order bride or something similar. Which means he would have even MORE control of her very livelihood, citizenship, and custody of her children.
Dr. Gary Brucato says the misspellings are likely intentional. Would mess up an investigator’s search terms.
The white envelope is something that happened to Shannon Gilbert! Probably no money inside.
I suspected that
Why would Rex Heuermann take a plea deal? The state won't offer him anything less than life without parole, and New York doesn't have the death penalty. So, what does he have to gain by pleading guilty or lose by going to trial? Would this just be about which prison he ends up in until he dies?
If I were Rex Heuermann (thank goodness I am not), I would not plead guilty under any circumstances. At least if you go to trial, there is a glimmer of hope that you can persuade one juror to find you not guilty. If you get a hung jury, you probably get out on bail during a retrial.
... I feel attacked! I can't spell great either!
The ancher lady doesn't understand dyslexia. She may want to do a little research.
Sextuple not quintuple
Yep your computer doesn't actually delete files unless it writes over the part of the disk something was once saved on.
They say innocent before proven guilty but I’m sorry that man is evil and sick in the f…ing head, them documents blew my mind and I’m still thinking how is it possible for someone to be so messed up in the head. May all his victims Rest In Peace 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏