This video was very informative and unfortunately I purchased the SoClean before watching this video. During setup of my so clean and having trouble setting it up, I call the SoClean manufacturer and they gave me disappointing news that the SoClean was not compatible with my CPAP machine, I have a Luna 2 CPAP machine. Fortunately I was able to return it to CVS where I had purchased it from and received a full refund. Now that I have done more research as well as watched this video I am going to try the Lumin, also I realized that ozone leaves a a clean swimming pool scent on the mask and whatever else the ozone cleaned. Thank you for making this video, super helpful.
Big advantage to the SoClean is you can pre-set the machine to run automatically. So when I get up in the morning, just put my mask into the chamber and shut the lid, SoClean starts up about 10am (that's when I have it set to run) and cleans everything while I'm at work. Before bed I wipe my mask off with a CPAP wipe and I am good to go. I also use it to clean my travel CPAP (Z1) before and after I travel. SoClean has made it so much easier for me to use the CPAP, since it's cut my washing of all my tubing and mask to once a week. I've been using it everyday since 2017.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
I've had a SoClean since they came out years ago. It got rid of a allergy problem I developed since using a cpap. I believe that because it sanitizes not only the mask and hose but the actual machine, it is the one to choose. The Lumin doesn't sanitize the machine.
The machine itself doesn't need cleaning really (despite what they tell you) and if it does, your provider or manufacturer would need to take it apart to do so. With warranty invalidation from ResMed with ozone cleaning, I would not consider a soclean.
Keep in mind there will be additional costs with the SoClean system. The SoClean system will cost you an additional $60 per year to maintain it. The SoClean replacement filter and check valve kit will run you $30. Twice a year. As for The Lumin, it has no parts to maintain so there is no additional costs.The UV light will last the lifetime of the machine with recommended use. SoClean has a 2 year Limited Warranty and The Lumin is 2 years as well with only 1 year warranty on the Lumin Bullet. Also be aware that not all full face masks styles will fit in the SoClean system based on other consumer posts I have read and that “ozone”or O3 causes discoloration of the silicone on face masks.
Have they improved the lid clasp on the SoClean? Mine broke after 3 months of use. Their solution was to return it and they would fix it for almost the cost of the machine! I opted for a large book to hold the lid down. It worked fine until Hurricane Harvey hit and destroyed my home. as a disabled veteran, I cannot afford another one (or will not) until they fix the lid closure properly!
Hello Preston, I am very sorry to hear that this happened. We at RespShop understand these machines can be an investment and understand that it can be truly upsetting when they do break. As far as we were aware this is not a common issue, but as with any mechanical parts, things can break down. However, SoClean should have a 2 year warranty should the machine become faulty in that time period. If you purchased this unit from us please email us with your order number (sales@RespShop.com) and we will look into this matter more thoroughly.
Hello @@bonniewalter967, We are very sorry to hear that the door has broken on your unit. The good news is as it was purchased a year ago the machine is still under it's 2 year warranty. If you purchased this unit from RespShop.com contact our customer service at 866-936-3754 and we can assist you through the warranty process. If you did not purchase through us you will need to contact who you purchased it through to begin the process.
Hi Joel, It is recommended that you wipe off your mask to remove any debris each time, otherwise the oils from your skin on your mask will turn orange. Feel Free to contact us at 866-936-3754 to discuss further!
Yes, the entire air flow system is cleaned as the machine circulates Ozone through the machine, hose and mask in a closed loop system. The mask sits in the closed tank bathed in ozone for the three hour dissipation time. I set mine to run everyday at 10 AM and its ready and waiting when I go to bed. VERY easy with no action on my part other than to close the lid. I've had mine three years and love it.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
If you have a ResMed Airsense 10, and use the heated hose, the bullet won't work. Buy and use a standard unheated hose and don't use heated air feature, then you can use the "bullet" can pass through to clean hose.
FROM THE RESMED WEBSITE --- ResMed has observed that prolonged and repeated use of an ozone device may eventually cause internal damage to a ResMed machine, leading to an increase in motor noise. The ResMed limited warranty excludes damage to ResMed machines caused by use of ozone devices.
Hello Dave, Thank you for pointing this out. At the time of the video ResMed had not yet released this statement, however earlier this year ResMed stated that any ozone device could cause internal damage. We have yet to see this statement from other manufacturers so we cannot fully validate if this is true or not. For now we are just recommending ResMed users to use the Lumin & Lumin Bullet, since they use UV light, instead.
FYI, they no longer make the Lumin Bullet as they found it does not do an adequate job of sanitizing the tube. I wind my tube up and fit it in the drawer. You most likely have to do the cleaning in shifts.
Why didn"t you discuss cost of filter which $60 every 6 months which increases the cost of use signifcantly. Lumin Bullet isn't compatible with the ResMed heated hose. This is a great option, but not for ResMed Heated hose users to bad. Simon Y
Hello Simon, unfortunately as prices change we do not include those costs in our videos. However I will note the filter kit you mention we sell for $30, not $60, at the time of writing this comment (Found here: www.respshop.com/cpap-supplies/comfort-cleaning/soclean-cartridge-filter-kit-p-769.html ). As for the heated hose, we do apologize as occasionally information can be missed when we shoot and upload our videos. We are thankful for user discussion in our comments, however, as this brings forgotten information or different view points to other cpap users. Thank you for commenting!
I use the SoClean. So easy to use. Unfortunately, I just got the Resmed Airsense 10 which will void the cpap machine warranty so I have to find something new.
SoClean uses Ozone which whether in its pure form or mixed with other chemicals, ozone can be harmful to health. When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts of ozone can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and, throat irritation.
Hello Mervesta, I would highly recommend to empty your water chamber with both units. If any liquid is spilled in either machine (as they are not designed to hold water) it could lead to the cleaning unit to no longer function.
Do both of these machines work with the ResMed Air Mini and ResMed P10 nasal pillows? And since the Air Mini does not have a water reservoir, is it important to be able to clean the hose or machine? Since I have asthma, I'm inclined toward the Lumin as being potentially safer than the SoClean but will it be equally effective on my equipment?
SoClean sells an adaptor for the Air Mini. It is a simple widget to attach the robber hose directly to the tube and then you put the mask in the chamber attached to the other end of the tubing. Since it only works on the tubing and mask, I presume you could do the same with the Lumin (just sanitize the mask and tubing.) The actual Air Mini device is out of the equation.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
i used the soclean. the door finally kwould not remain shut and the little window said no mask present. checked the 2 side plugs things. no help. finally reached the soclean people and it wasnt easy. they said because it was out of warranty it would cost me $200 and they would send me a new one.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
I purchased a SoClean a year ago. The door will not close, it is poorly made. It is broken and the whole machine needs to be replaced. I now use a jug of water to hold the door closed, so it will clean.
Hello Bonnie, We are very sorry to hear that the door has broken on your unit. The good news is as it was purchased a year ago the machine is still under it's 2 year warranty. If you purchased this unit from RespShop.com contact our customer service at 866-936-3754 and we can assist you through the warranty process. If you did not purchase through us you will need to contact who you purchased it through to begin the process.
Thank you for watching! UV light is used in hospitals to disinfect surfaces and the air. It's also used to disinfect drinking water. You are right to be skeptical though as you need a certain wavelength of UV light (UVC light at 200 to 280 nanometers) for the best bacteria and virus killing results.
Hello Altair, Yes the So Clean can work with the AirSense 10, however you will need an adapter for your water chamber. However, at the beginning of 2020 ResMed stated that as of this year machines used with the SoClean will void their warranty due to the use of Ozone. At this time we do not recommend the using the AirSense 10 with the SoClean.
Hello D, You are still able to use the SoClean with COPD, however you have to make sure that you let the machine finish it's whole cycle to use it. Essentially there is a filter inside that absorbs the Ozone once it's done cleaning. As long as the machine finishes pulls the ozone back into the filter it will be completely safe to use.
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This video was very informative and unfortunately I purchased the SoClean before watching this video. During setup of my so clean and having trouble setting it up, I call the SoClean manufacturer and they gave me disappointing news that the SoClean was not compatible with my CPAP machine, I have a Luna 2 CPAP machine. Fortunately I was able to return it to CVS where I had purchased it from and received a full refund. Now that I have done more research as well as watched this video I am going to try the Lumin, also I realized that ozone leaves a a clean swimming pool scent on the mask and whatever else the ozone cleaned. Thank you for making this video, super helpful.
Hello Diante, So glad we could leave you better informed! Thank you for commenting!
Big advantage to the SoClean is you can pre-set the machine to run automatically. So when I get up in the morning, just put my mask into the chamber and shut the lid, SoClean starts up about 10am (that's when I have it set to run) and cleans everything while I'm at work. Before bed I wipe my mask off with a CPAP wipe and I am good to go. I also use it to clean my travel CPAP (Z1) before and after I travel. SoClean has made it so much easier for me to use the CPAP, since it's cut my washing of all my tubing and mask to once a week. I've been using it everyday since 2017.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
Except you have to set it up again every time you have a power outage or unplug it.
I've had a SoClean since they came out years ago. It got rid of a allergy problem I developed since using a cpap. I believe that because it sanitizes not only the mask and hose but the actual machine, it is the one to choose. The Lumin doesn't sanitize the machine.
The machine itself doesn't need cleaning really (despite what they tell you) and if it does, your provider or manufacturer would need to take it apart to do so. With warranty invalidation from ResMed with ozone cleaning, I would not consider a soclean.
Thank you for watching, we are glad you enjoyed the video. Please don't forget to Like and Subscribe for more CPAP and Sleep Apnea related videos.
Keep in mind there will be additional costs with the SoClean system. The SoClean system will cost you an additional $60 per year to maintain it. The SoClean replacement filter and check valve kit will run you $30. Twice a year.
As for The Lumin, it has no parts to maintain so there is no additional costs.The UV light will last the lifetime of the machine with recommended use.
SoClean has a 2 year Limited Warranty and The Lumin is 2 years as well with only 1 year warranty on the Lumin Bullet.
Also be aware that not all full face masks styles will fit in the SoClean system based on other consumer posts I have read and that “ozone”or O3 causes discoloration of the silicone on face masks.
Yes, it does dis color and as for your mask, you can disconnect it from your hose when you put it in the so clean and it will fit into the so clean
Have they improved the lid clasp on the SoClean? Mine broke after 3 months of use. Their solution was to return it and they would fix it for almost the cost of the machine! I opted for a large book to hold the lid down. It worked fine until Hurricane Harvey hit and destroyed my home. as a disabled veteran, I cannot afford another one (or will not) until they fix the lid closure properly!
Hello Preston, I am very sorry to hear that this happened. We at RespShop understand these machines can be an investment and understand that it can be truly upsetting when they do break. As far as we were aware this is not a common issue, but as with any mechanical parts, things can break down. However, SoClean should have a 2 year warranty should the machine become faulty in that time period. If you purchased this unit from us please email us with your order number (sales@RespShop.com) and we will look into this matter more thoroughly.
Yes, that has also happened to me. Fixing only the lid will not work, the whole machine needs to be replaced.
Hello @@bonniewalter967, We are very sorry to hear that the door has broken on your unit. The good news is as it was purchased a year ago the machine is still under it's 2 year warranty. If you purchased this unit from RespShop.com contact our customer service at 866-936-3754 and we can assist you through the warranty process. If you did not purchase through us you will need to contact who you purchased it through to begin the process.
My lid clasp was broken after a year or two. It is obvious that it is a design fault.
Does the So Clean actually sanitize the actual machine? If so, does that make it more attractive than the Lumin?
Hi Joel, It is recommended that you wipe off your mask to remove any debris each time, otherwise the oils from your skin on your mask will turn orange. Feel Free to contact us at 866-936-3754 to discuss further!
@@respshopfileshare7064
I don't think you answered Joel's question.
They were asking if the SoClean cleans the actual CPAP machine...
Yes, the entire air flow system is cleaned as the machine circulates Ozone through the machine, hose and mask in a closed loop system. The mask sits in the closed tank bathed in ozone for the three hour dissipation time. I set mine to run everyday at 10 AM and its ready and waiting when I go to bed. VERY easy with no action on my part other than to close the lid. I've had mine three years and love it.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
If you have a ResMed Airsense 10, and use the heated hose, the bullet won't work. Buy and use a standard unheated hose and don't use heated air feature, then you can use the "bullet" can pass through to clean hose.
Thank you for your feedback!
FROM THE RESMED WEBSITE --- ResMed has observed that prolonged and repeated use of an ozone device may eventually cause internal damage to a ResMed machine, leading to an increase in motor noise. The ResMed limited warranty excludes damage to ResMed machines caused by use of ozone devices.
Hello Dave, Thank you for pointing this out. At the time of the video ResMed had not yet released this statement, however earlier this year ResMed stated that any ozone device could cause internal damage. We have yet to see this statement from other manufacturers so we cannot fully validate if this is true or not. For now we are just recommending ResMed users to use the Lumin & Lumin Bullet, since they use UV light, instead.
FYI, they no longer make
the Lumin Bullet as they found it does not do an adequate job of sanitizing the tube. I wind my tube up and fit it in the drawer. You most likely have to do the cleaning in shifts.
Thank you for the update!
Why didn"t you discuss cost of filter which $60 every 6 months which increases the cost of use signifcantly.
Lumin Bullet isn't compatible with the ResMed heated hose. This is a great option, but not for ResMed Heated hose users to bad.
Simon Y
Hello Simon, unfortunately as prices change we do not include those costs in our videos. However I will note the filter kit you mention we sell for $30, not $60, at the time of writing this comment (Found here: www.respshop.com/cpap-supplies/comfort-cleaning/soclean-cartridge-filter-kit-p-769.html ). As for the heated hose, we do apologize as occasionally information can be missed when we shoot and upload our videos. We are thankful for user discussion in our comments, however, as this brings forgotten information or different view points to other cpap users. Thank you for commenting!
@@RespShop True, the filter is $30, but it is recommended that it be replaced every six months, so it is $60 per year.
I use the SoClean. So easy to use. Unfortunately, I just got the Resmed Airsense 10 which will void the cpap machine warranty so I have to find something new.
SoClean uses Ozone which whether in its pure form or mixed with other chemicals, ozone can be harmful to health. When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts of ozone can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and, throat irritation.
Question: Does the water chamber need to be emptied before sanitizing?
Hello Mervesta, I would highly recommend to empty your water chamber with both units. If any liquid is spilled in either machine (as they are not designed to hold water) it could lead to the cleaning unit to no longer function.
Do both of these machines work with the ResMed Air Mini and ResMed P10 nasal pillows? And since the Air Mini does not have a water reservoir, is it important to be able to clean the hose or machine? Since I have asthma, I'm inclined toward the Lumin as being potentially safer than the SoClean but will it be equally effective on my equipment?
SoClean sells an adaptor for the Air Mini. It is a simple widget to attach the robber hose directly to the tube and then you put the mask in the chamber attached to the other end of the tubing. Since it only works on the tubing and mask, I presume you could do the same with the Lumin (just sanitize the mask and tubing.) The actual Air Mini device is out of the equation.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
So Clean cleans your tubing at same time.
Thank you for watching, if you enjoyed our video please don't forget to Like and Subscribe for more Sleep Apnea and CPAP related videos.
i used the soclean. the door finally kwould not remain shut and the little window said no mask present. checked the 2 side plugs things. no help. finally reached the soclean people and it wasnt easy. they said because it was out of warranty it would cost me $200 and they would send me a new one.
Since recent events, we have advised patients to hold off on using their so clean as we have been advised it has not been FDA approved. The O-zone can also cause some health issues. Speak your provider for more information.
Hi thanks for the video, I have the ResMed Airsense 10 will the bullet work with that hose. Thanks
yes
@@Retiredin How does bullet clean tube when it has a right angle rigid end?
@andiconda LUCKY I don’t own this because I don’t see how it would work with the right angle end
No you have to buy the standard non heated hose to use the bullet.
Can I order the lid to the so clean
Thank you for watching! Unfortunately, we no longer carry the SoClean as use of ozone cleaners with certain CPAP machines will void the warranty.
I purchased a SoClean a year ago. The door will not close, it is poorly made. It is broken and the whole machine needs to be replaced. I now use a jug of water to hold the door closed, so it will clean.
Hello Bonnie, We are very sorry to hear that the door has broken on your unit. The good news is as it was purchased a year ago the machine is still under it's 2 year warranty. If you purchased this unit from RespShop.com contact our customer service at 866-936-3754 and we can assist you through the warranty process. If you did not purchase through us you will need to contact who you purchased it through to begin the process.
Had mine 3 years no issues
I just want a lid.
Sorry, we no longer carry any SoClean products.
I'm just not convinced that UV light disinfects. Plus the cost is way too expensive for a plastic container and a light bulb.
Thank you for watching! UV light is used in hospitals to disinfect surfaces and the air. It's also used to disinfect drinking water. You are right to be skeptical though as you need a certain wavelength of UV light (UVC light at 200 to 280 nanometers) for the best bacteria and virus killing results.
Can I put my heated hose in the lumin
Yes! However, you might want to get the Lumin bullet which will sanitize the inside of the hose.
@@RespShop But you can't use the bullet on a heated hose, right? And you can't use the bullet with a right angle connector on the end, right?
With the so clean machine how often do you have to still wash your equipment.
Thank you for your question! please give us a call at 1-866-936-3754 and we can discuss your question.
@@RespShop Why couldn't you answer here so that everybody can see?
I have the ResMed Air Sense 10 auto cpap will the So Clean work with my machine.
Hello Altair, Yes the So Clean can work with the AirSense 10, however you will need an adapter for your water chamber. However, at the beginning of 2020 ResMed stated that as of this year machines used with the SoClean will void their warranty due to the use of Ozone. At this time we do not recommend the using the AirSense 10 with the SoClean.
How about AirCurve10?
I have heard that if you have copd, the SoClean is not recommended due to ozone. Any truth to that?
Hello D, You are still able to use the SoClean with COPD, however you have to make sure that you let the machine finish it's whole cycle to use it. Essentially there is a filter inside that absorbs the Ozone once it's done cleaning. As long as the machine finishes pulls the ozone back into the filter it will be completely safe to use.
@@RespShop Thanks
I have asthma and it has actually improved since using So Clean. I no longer have to use the steroid or albuteral inhalers
The So Clean is very LOUD when running. Could wake the dead !!!! Why she doesn't mention it is beyond me.
give us a call at 866 936 3754 so we can double check it is functioning correctly.
Like a jackhammer! Then it quieted down after five ten minutes.
You use it when your not sleeping