I actually read the Baal myth...here's what I found! (Part 3)
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- In this series we are looking at the story of Baal from the Ras Shamra texts found at Ugarit. Baal is one of the main Canaanite gods whom Israel was tempted to worship in the Hebrew Bible alongside their pagan neighbors. The more we know about the Baal myth, the more we recognize when the Biblical authors use imagery associated with it and what Scripture proclaims about the TRUE “rider on the clouds”, YHWH!
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I really appreciate the way you put boundaries around this study and explain what you ARE and ARE NOT trying to do. It is very effective.
Thank you. I wish some of the people leaving comments would pick up on this point! Haha
I grew up reading the mythology of ancient Greece and then other myths as well. It has been awhile since I delved into the Caananite stories. I love these tales from the dawn of history. Thank you for doing this and I appreciate your connecting these with the biblical culture. The story of God's people did not develope in a vacumn.
This is wonderful. I knew of Ba'al but not this historical story. Thank you for connecting it to biblical text as well
This series has been great! It gives much more context to the phrasings in the Bible. I’ll be tuning into your channel for more. I’m in my second go round in the Bible, this time in chronological order and it’s given much more insight historically but I have more cultural questions so my next go round in the Bible I hope to look deeper into the cultural contexts of the Israelites and surrounding cultures. Especially when I get to Exodus. We learn so much in school about Egyptian and Roman-Greco culture but trying to parallel that with the Bible has been a little challenging for me (I’m not historian). And to see videos like yours that delve into ancient texts from other cultures it gives much more context to what I’ve read in Genesis and I appreciate the references back to the Bible when you compare figurative language used. This was really good. It shines light on the idea that all the stories are shared from different perspectives depending on the culture doing the writing. Keep up the good work! This was insightful.
This is a huge help in understanding how God is working with in the ancient cultures and real make the Bible more clear on God being the only truth, thank you.
This just gives so much validity to the historical reality of the Bible. ❤ The reflections of different cultures of the time being echoed in the biblical illustrations, depicts God as the true God defeating the gods that other countries worshipped at the time. It’s kinda hard to say the Bible is just a bunch of mythical stories with the deeper connections between the Jewish imagery of God and knowing they were paying attention to those people around them culturally. These are outside sources confirming the Real God even defeats their idols. God doesn’t separate himself from other cultures but battles them giving them the PROOF they needed to believe in Him like when he took on all the Egyptian gods through Moses & the plagues 🙏 those specific plagues weren’t on accident
Feeling extremely blessed to have stumbled across your channel this evening, thank you for what you do sir
Absolutely fascinating! ❤ can't thank you enough. Connecting with scriptures is highly insightful.
I really appreciate this series.
But you did miss how baal wanted a temple, but YHWH told David "I'm cool with my tabernacle"
@@claystudley4796 that's one of the significant ways the Biblical texts critique the neediness of the pagan gods. "Heaven is my throne, earth is my footstool...where is the house you would build for me??"
Not too many Christian Apologists admit to the connections but I really do find these helpful and value your honest analysis and find faith strengthening too
whenever I hear creation myths and other god myth stories it blows my mind how so much more complex, beautiful, intelligent and all in compassing the scriptures are. You can read and study the Bible every day and still it's like a new well everyday. You don't get any of that with these myths.
I'm really enjoying this so far. Thanks for putting in the work.
12:34 "Snorter" in the sea that swallows echoes to Jonah being swallowed,and who did the Ninevites worship? Dagon! We even sea this same imagery in modern tales like Pinochio where he goes down into the sea and is swallowed by the whale Monstro, but when he emerges he gains true life.
I’m ready I’m ready I’m ready I’m ready
Relax and what's with the one eyed bullshite
Super helpful. I run a small Bible study at a local hangout and most of my participants are not well versed in biblical ancient culture. I’m going to send these videos to them to encourage them to read on their own. Thank you for your faithful work in and commitment to God’s Kingdom.
Thanks for this great series
@@kittydaddy2023 thanks for watching!
Minute 23:30
Reminds me of the passage desceining when Israel will make a pact with Sheol
I have thourghly enjoyed your videos. Thanks for sharing
Nice.
material that for so long, apart from occasional hints was reserved to the realm of the academics.
... long considered 'too much information' for us ordinary folks
... and even still today often warned by pastors to stay away from - not saying they are wrong/bad, but overprotective - like telling children to stay out of the deep end of the pool.
It's refreshing that people like you, Heiser, NT Wright, Carmen Imes, Tim Mackie, Chad Bird, (not saying you all agree with each other) are willing to put this info out for those of us ready and willing and even hungry (though perhaps almost but not as hungry as Mote) to go to the deep end and beyond ... - of course (as you all advise) always with huge doses of "Berean" discernment.
as an example - a (not the only) takeaway has been: long heard academics saying portions of the Bible 'are polemic'
- now (and really clearly shown) actually get that
- and yes, that really does elevate understanding of the greatness and goodness of YHWH and his Word (the Bible - it's truthfulness and completeness and reveal even more the narrative therein.
Almost like they say 90% of DNA is called 'junk DNA' - though they admit we would die without it
similarly large portions of the Bible were likewise thought of as (being nicer) "less useful" background info/scenery ... now not so much ... waaay not so much!
The story of Jonah and the reference in the new testament makes a whole lot more sense if you read it that way.
Jonah gets eaten by "death/Mut", he spends 3 days and nights in the realm of Mut and then "God" made/requested Mut to spit him out back to the surface (land of the living).
In other words : he dies, is dead for 3 days and nights, and is then back from the dead. Exactly the same as Jesus.
Dimshah means both hippopotamus and bear. The hippopotamus with limbs of a lion is Taweret, seen as Draco, the wife of Seth, god of chaos, the head of Draco is the seed cup holding Damu, known as the pig, Taweret was known as Reret "The Sow", as both Osiris and Seth were Boar, the constellation Orion, Sah, Sahu the hidden one, Sah means pig Sahu means boar,, the husband of Bau-Gula is Pabilsag who we call Sagittarius, he stands at the golden gate of the gods, Orion stands at the silver gate of man.
Around minute 7 or 8, they're referencing the region of mount Ararat, the twin peak or 2 mountains, and Gobekli Tepe, which is an ancient worship site which was an underground complex for a death cult...
My theory for thos entire epic is that it is a poetic retelling of a twisted version of real events. Most of these gods are actually people that later became deified. Wait a few centuries and this weird story is what comes out...
They could also be the wicked spirits in high places, those that influence nations (Eph 6)
This is very interesting. The only god outside of all the scrabbling and politics is death. None of them can stop, reverse, or refuse death. But here comes Israel into the region saying that our God reigns over death. He will rescue His faithful from the domain of death. And one day, as Jesus says, he will forever defeat death.
I feel that more than anything shows how pathetic the worship of Baal always is. They bow to a king who cannot overtake death, while they know the name and power of the God who death fears and bows to.
@@Shadowbard379yep! It makes Isaiah 25 and Revelation 20 that much more impactful!
Sheol was often used as a metaphor for death n hell, tho it was literally a physical place outside the city walls where all the trash was taken to. It was an ancient landfill. But was something very gross, disgusting, had an awful smell, so much so that no one ever wanted to go anywhere near it.
A lot of echoes of this stuff in story of Joseph as well-who was thrown into the pit, but pulled back up only to be sold into slavery, to windbup in a prison, to wind up 2nd in charge-of all the GRAIN.
Mashu is the sacred mountain, it also means twin as well as goat, goats are known to give birth to twins, the goat is associated with fertility. Vega was our pole star 12,000 years ago, the She Goat star, associated with Bau-Gula, the mother of the dying and rising god of healing, Damu "The Child". You can find Vega at midheaven above Jerusalem Christmas Day at 12:00 noon
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@@DiscipleDojo ok what ever you say, but you know I'm right, you don't like what I'm saying
Subbed. I'm enjoying this mythology series I've not seen it anywhere! How do you feel about publishing a book based on this entire mythology?
Sounds a LOT like the prophecy in the Old Testament.
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"Relied on Baals Storm Devices" ion-cannon
I think the word "House" is actually Dominion (territory to be ruled) like all the us is ruled by the house and the senate. Or the white house.
21:42 perhaps it is like wailing and gnashing of teeth eating bitter dust as a sign of morning.
The fact that these so-called gods can be killed and are afraid of Mot gives even great revelation that Jesus conquered death(Mot).
Loving the series. Question…why was Ba’al so prominently worshipped rather than other gods if according to the Ba’al cycle, he wasn’t as powerful as Mote and was not even considered a creator god like El? Why would they not have been more prominently worshipped? What was his draw to the peoples of that surrounding culture?
Because they needed rain more than anything else
🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️Ok, so SOMEBODY clearly came
up with this clever story,
perhaps a priest or some authority. It’s crazy how sheeplike people are, to just accept something without question, even as they do today! I am amazed how many people are not free thinkers, but rather follow the herd without question. Back then, I’m sure they had to fear some harm for questioning. Today they just want to belong with their peers without ridicule more or less, IDK. We have easy access to research today, but so many people don’t bother. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
It's nothing that the Egyptians didn't do- associate themselves with a god.
Date of these writings, please? 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Minute 21:12 Reminiscent of Ezekial 28, that famous passage....
10:33 Crushing Jaws of Death ties into "Beresheet" In the Beginning-the son will come out of the fathers house, and there will be a crushing of teeth, ending in the victory of the cross. And of course the Serpent bites the heel, peircing with his teeth, but the Seed of the woman crushes the serpent's head in defeat!
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Could it be in Revelation when the Locusts of the Abyss are released to sting men, when those men cry out foe desth, and desth Fkees from them, coukd that be again Yahweh demonstrating His authority over this god of death, Moht? (please forgive poor spelling)
@@gabriellehoffman7572 I don't think so, because by the time Revelation was written, the Canaanites were long gone.
Excellent work, but your skipping over lines and translating to death. Very good work, like shoelaces through the correct eyelets. Humans doth err. Hang in there and continue your ministry. I subscribed 🎬😎
The label on the opening frame says Part 2, but the title of the video says Part 3. I can't find Part 3. Help!
Moat sounds like the world serpent
To be more exact "death" at least in modern hebrew is "Mavet". Not Mot.
Though "mot" is used as well when you are talking about not death in general but "death of person X". Mot of person X.
But was he afraid of Death? of Mavet?
@@Exuprince Mot and Mavet are both from the same root "mem-vav-tav" or "mem-waw-taw" depending on which Hebrew pronunciation one is using and how the text is pointed.
@@DiscipleDojo Yes indeed (I'm a hebrew speaker (and Bible self-researcher) who is well aware of this).
That was a slight linguistic correction as Mot is not the standard form of the word Death in hebrew, though has the right root indeed.
Love you videos btw, currently watching the 5th already.
Great great job you are doing.
You did miss I think the parallel of Hayyinu (K and H are interchangable in semitic languages) to biblical Kain known for craftmanship as well.
doesn't the Bible say the death will be thrown in the lake of fire🤔 interesting
Love this series. So since yahwe says all the time - worship no other gods - do you think that he lied, or do you think he's imperfect? Since he had to have either influenced these people under false names or stolen from their myths? Or the psychics that wrote the bible were influenced by the culture? Or were both cultures influenced by the same gods? Regardless.... I love that it is becoming easier to learn about Baal these days ❤ thank you.
The ancient babylonian stories of deities is where the real history of humanity is exposed. Most of the stories in the Torah and the bible were most definitely copies from the sumerian texts. It is recorded from the book of genesis that Abraham was told to forego all other gods from his fathers house. This implies there have always been others but Abraham chose to serve one. There have always been a king of the gods who is the most high, but he definitely did not create humanity. His children did.
When Noah, his sons, and family came out of the boat, his son Ham was not the blessed one. Ham left the family and brought the line of Nimrod (the King that was worshipping the false idols) this was against the words of the God of Noah, which is The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit. Our true God then destroyed the Tower of Babel and the peoples went all over the earth from there. That’s where all of this came from and how we have a bunch of tiny cultures worshipping false idol gods or gods that were copied from true God and created to be what they wanted by the king of that peoples. That was exactly what God said not to do. Nowadays we see this might have been done on purpose by God because he hardens the hearts of his enemies (building them up in their culture making them feel mighty and all powerful) in order God can come back and break them down in 1 day destroying their entire worldview, instigating a massive revelation to those people. Much like what will happen in our tribulation, currently the evil and godless people are in high and mighty places in the world, they hold power wealth and feel powerful inside. But they are evil and wicked in all their heart. It is these people that when Jesus comes back for tribulation he will throw all wicked and unrighteousness and unbelievers into the fires of hell. Thereby destroying these wealthy wicked people in one fell swoop and bringing them so low to teach them who is God and that righteousness is the truth and he is the Alpha and Omega.
@@Stonewall89 except the bible was written after these stories
@@trevorscott2863 The Babylonian stories (and the other mythologies) do expose real history. But the story they are telling is about Noah and his children after the flood. El/Cronus is Ham. He deposes Noah Oannes/Anu by castration. Why? Because Noah's wife betrays him. She's upset that everyone she knew died in the flood. All her family, friends all dead. All her belongings gone and now shes basically in a wasteland with nothing. She blames Noah and God. Incites Ham Cronus to castrate Noah Oannes and take his place. Baal Zeus is Ham's son Cush. Noah's wife Inanna, Neema, Ishtar does the same thing with him and gets him to depose Ham and 'rule the world'. The story is all over the mythologies, but you slow boys can't see it because you have no discernment. At one point it even has Inanna, stealing stone tablets from Ham that contain pre-flood information on how to start civilization.
What?
The Bible wasn't written by psychics lol. No he didn't lie...It was written by people walking in faith and under the inspration of the holy spirit. The Biblical word often used is prophets or in Hebrew, nabi/navi.
The other Gods are false Gods, why would the one true God steal from false Gods? Hopefully you can read some more of the Bible, at present it sounds like you place it on equal terms with any other book and you're trying to synthesize it. Doesn't work like that.
Does Death equate to the bottomless pit?
I love your videos but I’m confused - if you know the Ugaritic Texts are older than the Hebrew texts, and the Hebrew texts copied those stories into the Bible while changing the name of Ba’al to Yahweh, why do you say the Hebrew version is more credible?
@@1kEng I don't say they copied any stories into the Bible. That's not what polemical theology claims. See the rest of our backgrounds of the Bible series for more.
@@DiscipleDojo thanks I'll take a look as soon as I'm finished the Ba'al series. As of now, it seems clear that the Bible rewrote older texts from the Canaanites, Sumerians, Assyrians, Akkadians, etc., but replaced their gods with Yahweh, which significantly reduces the credibility of the much more recent biblical content. Even when comparing the vast differences in the King James translation to the older Septuagint and Masoretic text, we see the same stories watered down the longer the game of telephone is played. Do you have any video recommendations on this kind of material? I'm planning on watching "Does the Bible plagiarize other ancient writings" next.
Elohim from space
Abraham Isaac Jacob : Canaanite gods?
420 years Joseph, Egypt: The Israelites would have been influenced by the Egyptian gods and customs not the Canaanite gods.
In Judges: Israel is influenced by various gods especially Philistines gods surely. Philistines had Dagon.
The Philistines disappear from Scripture during David's reign.
During Solomon, they begin a lot of idol worship.
I wouldn't be shocked if Baal story was heavily influenced by Israel. Remember the northern kingdom had the two calfs set up to worship and needed a legend to not go to Jerusalem to worship.
People don't realize that religions tend to recycle content or dress things up differently. The angelic messengers have their teachings stolen and much of those teachings turned into religions that are just full metaphors and people didn't really learn how to look deeper than the surface. I have a friend that teaches people how to properly understand the hidden wisdom of the Bible and the history that was hidden from the public. What they believe are messages from Heavenly Father is at times, words from his Prodigal son.
There is no "hidden" wisdom in the Bible. That's what the gnostics claimed. Rather, everything in Scripture is available to anyone who simply studies and seeks with humility.
@@DiscipleDojoishtar is all over the old testament
Bro, it's not images rather storytelling at its best. Beware the Scribes
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Great work and great lesson!
So what took Yahweh so long? He let this go on for centuries before saying anything 😂
Read up on Leviathan and his Neesings. I think that's the "Snorter".
Ditdn't Abram leave the Akkadian empire when he had his journey?
Much earlier than Canaan.
Caanan has been around since dawn of time pre Egyptian
Jackass
@@Kibbersdad Not pre-akkadian. Not Pre Abram.
@wakcackle3555 Caananites been in the game for 7,000 yrs
@@Kibbersdad This is lifted from Wikipedia:
"Canaan was a Semitic-speaking civilization and region of the Southern Levant in the Ancient Near East during the late 2nd millennium BC"
This is all confusion, made up by satan and his angels given to cain
So why should I think the Bible is any less fairy tale nonsense than this? Of course, it's fascinating historic literature. But no one should be basing a moral code on scribblings of people who didn't understand how rain happens.
Because Jesus rose from the dead. Start there and work your way back. 😉
Ugh, my guy, you are talking about hebrew scriptures when the bloody hell did that become christian text? All you are doing is further proving the point that the hebrews worship baal. And all the old testament is really Baal worship. You do know these texts predate hebrew. You've said it. But then say they hijacked the story to make it relatable? No. Its the same story. Occams Razor....
Lame
@@Kibbersdad I'm sorry. I'll pray that God heals your lameness. Thank you for sharinf your condition.
Look into Yahweh as part of the Phoenician/ Caananite Elohim or order of gods.@@DiscipleDojo
Yahweh is not El
Lol how can their God be shook 😂?