If Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 4 happens, I would prefer if they used the Lizard over the vulture. The lizard has the potential to be a top 5 villain with raimi involved
Totally! A Raimi Lizard would be so cool! 😍 Even Morbius, a comic-accurate Electro and Tombstone would be great for Tobey. 🤩 I hope Raimi's Spider-Man 4 happens.❤4💙
Norman was never the villain in Raimi's movies Norman Osborn started his company from the ground up. He worked hard his entire life. Norman is subjected to the deadlines and quotas enforced by a military officer with a personal bias against him. The officer says, "There is nothing I would like more than to see Osborn fail." This is highly unprofessional of the military officer. It is a crime to abuse military rank to attack the livelihood of a person just because you dislike them for a personal reason. The unprofessional officer goes out of his way to contradict Norman out of the officer's own PERSONAL feelings. He coerces a damaging statement from Norman's colleague. Norman's colleague, an underling, goes over Norman's head and reveals far too much to this officer, over-stepping his boundaries and putting Norman's entire future in jeopardy. This causes Norman to be overwhelmed and panic to the point where he must experiment on himself. Norman's colleague, the underling, is killed during the experiment. It was basically the colleague's own fault that Norman took the performance enhancers and then went on a violent rampage. If he kept his mouth shut and not overstepped his boundaries, he would be alive. The unprofessional military officer attempts to sabotage Norman by giving Norman's government contract to another company. Norman sets things right, destroying the officer's physical existence while bombing the other company's testing facility during a demonstration of their weapon. This also showcases Norman's superior weapon over the competition. Theirs didn't stand a chance. The Goblin Glider was the superior weapon. Profits are up for Oscorp Industries. Norman secures his company's future. Norman attends a meeting where his associates, board members and so-called "friends" BETRAY him. All of them betray him at once. The board members sell Norman's own company, forcing Norman out of the company he started. Norman pleads with these people not to sell. They refuse. They hold more shares than Norman and the board is unanimous. They show no humanity and they are cold. They are dealt with accordingly, just like the unprofessional military officer. They are destroyed by the weapon they were intending to sell. They were disloyal ingrates. Norman's son, Harry Osborn, has a friend named Peter who is poor and has no parents. Norman OFFERS PETER A JOB and acts as a FATHER FIGURE to Peter, even giving Peter an NYC apartment RENT-FREE. I don't think anyone grasps how generous and considerate this is. Peter makes it his personal business to contradict Norman and fight him, imposing his naive will in a situation he knows little to nothing about. Peter not only refuses Norman's gifts, but he physically attacks Norman. Norman makes a generous offer to Peter. Instead of having a serious conversation or coming to an agreement, Peter interjects with bad humor, one-liners and an askew sense of responsibility. Peter becomes romantically involved with Norman's son's girlfriend, MJ Watson. Norman is KILLED fighting this CHILD. Peter Lies to Harry about multiple things and kisses MJ at Norman's funeral. Norman was the protagonist in my eyes. You CANNOT tell me Norman was the bad guy. Anyone who thinks Norman was the villain is wrong. He was a VICTIM and what happened to Norman was TRAGIC.
In Spiderman 2 J. Jonah Jameson is pitching names for Doc Ock and one of the names pitched is “Dr. Strange” to then Jameson replied “It’s taken” thus making Dr. Strange cannon in Spiderman 2
Andrew Garfield's Peter is the one who seems amazed and somewhat confused by the fact that magic exists. Tobey McGuire just walks through the portal like he was expecting it. He seems to be aware that magic exists.
@killabean990 If Dr. Stange exists in Tobey's Spider-Verse, it opens the door to the possibility that his Spider-Man has face magic users before. Man-Wolf, Dracula, Morbius, Baron Mordo, Dormamu, etc
I've always wanted to see live action adaption of Scorpion. They could use part of Doc Ocks tentacle that was cut off by Goblin in NWH to create Scorpions tail and J.K Simons Jameson help fund to create Scorpion. Other good option is to use Vincents Kingpin as one who funds Scorpion and Scorpion becomes his assassin and Daredevil and Spider-Man need to team up.
I'd like to see Ned get framed as the Hobgoblin, forcing Peter to get involved as Spider-Man to clear his name. Since it would certsinly add to Ned's confusion about Spider-Man. While he may not remember Peter, he and MJ would still remember that they helped Spider-Man during No Way Home. They just wouldn't understand why they were involved. Having Spider-Man actively seek out Matt Murdock to represent Ned, as well as take it upon himself to discover Roderick Kindsley to be the resl Goblin, would be a good way of bringing Peter's friends back into his life
This would probably be the best way to do it because I’ve always thought the idea of Ned becoming Hobgoblin was really stupid I know it happens in the comics but I just can’t imagine this specific version being a compelling villain or the actor even having enough range to go from quirky best friend to villain
If Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider and Blade connect with Rami's Spiderman the could possible a chance that he can also appear in some Marvel Knights Productions projects even though having so many potential but it failed
And in Marvel's Spider-Man (2018) there's a mention of him in the holographic table, his laboratory is the only one that is not under the protection of Sable, which indicates that is isolated from other Oscorp centers, which at this point, everyone imagines the reason.
Fun Fact: Sam-Raimi actually wanted Spider-Man 4, 5 & 6 to be the Sinister Six Saga featuring Vulture (John Malkovich), Lizard (Dylan Baker), Kraven (Jemaine Clement), Hobgoblin (Aaron Eckhart), Carnage (Jim Carrey) and Electro (???). The next antihero-turned-ally after James Franco's New Goblin would've been either Black Cat or Vulturess (Anne Hathaway). There would also be C and D-list villains who would briefly appear including the Prowler, the Shocker, Stilt Man, a "onesie-wearing" version of the Rhino, and the first one being Mysterio, who would've been played Sam Raimi's good friend by Bruce Campbell.
@@greenlanternaquaman Spider-Man 2 & 3 were originally going to be a lot like these idea, but Avi Arad kept shadow directing Sam Raimi because war-triangles are not their strong points. We almost had 4 villains in Spider-Man 2 instead of just Doc Ock.
They actually used pro wrestler and Late Great Mega Power Macho Man Randy Savage as Ultimate Spider-Man wrestling villain (heel), Greg Bonesaw McGraw. Despite being a supposedly well documented fan of the original, Sam Ramey instead chose to go with the late great Macho Man as Bonesaw instead of Macho Man's Mega Powers teammate, 3 Ninjas 4 High Noon at Mega Mountain Star Dave Dragon himself, Hollywood Hulk Hogan as I think and want to say his name was Jack Crusher Hogan.
Curt Connor isn’t a villain, Lizard is… If you had read that issue of Spiderman where the Punisher debuts you would know he wasn’t a villain, he had been hired by the Jackal through Kingpin to take out Spiderman, convincing Castle that Spiderman was a villain, but as Castle was stalking him he realizes he was lied to, which doesn’t end well for Jackal…
I agree with the Scorpion thing, he needs to get an debute in the live action movies, we only saw him in Spiderman into the spiderverse, and no other new movies
You forgot Flash Thompson as Agent Venom. Another reason Morbius couldn't be used by New Line Cinema for Blade 2 is they didn't own the rights to the character. When Marvel was going through financial difficulties and started selling off cinematic rights to various characters and groups such as The X-Men and Fantastic Four along with Spider-Man, Sony got all Spider-Man agacent characters. And while Morbius flits between a Blade character. He is more commonly associated with Spider-Man. Same with how Fox realised they didn't have rights to Galactus in the Fantastic Four movies and couldn't secure the rights from Marvel who were in talks of being brought by Disney at the time.
Would love to see the hob goblin, my favourite Spider-Man villain! :-) Also not gonna do the spider verse movies or the Sony spinoff movies of which John Jamison also makes a cameo in the first venom? :-) Or other Spider-Man related characters that appeared In other Spider-Man movies such as Morbius in blade II?:-)
Hobgoblin is awesome!! Always loved his design and he'd be really cool to see in live action. I considered elaborating more on the Sony spin off movies but I'm planning on making a video in the future (probably after Kraven releases) talking more in depth about those movies, and I also thought that this video was getting a bit too long lmao
I agree! I never really liked Harry's "New Goblin" design, they should've commited to either fully making him the second Green Goblin or better yet, they could've had Harry create the Hobgoblin identity to continue his father's legacy while also having a more distinct identity
That would be way better than MCU Ned being Hobgoblin since the whole trilogy leads up to the conflict between Harry and Peter and Harry constantly grappling with his darker side plus James Franco is way more believable in an action type role than the actor who plays MCU Ned
They could have did the mcu connected universe theme along time ago with raimi spider man, fox men, blade, daredevil, ghost rider, and punisher. It would have been better.
Haven’t watched the video just looked at the thumbnail but even if you didn’t know the name Connors the fact that a university professor with a missing arm was in a spider-man movie should have tipped you off that he could’ve been the lizard
Well technically in No Way Home after Ned told Peter that he was magic he said "And I promise you. I won't turn into a super villain and try to kill you."
En the amazing spiderman se pensaba poner también a big wheel un villano de broma que tiene una rueda gigante que usa como transporte Y también hay artes conceptuales descartados de scorpion y sandman para la secuela
Tienes razón! Hay unos diseños hechos por Tom Zhao que muestran sus conceptos para Sandman y Scorpion, y un cameo de Big Wheel hubiese sido glorioso 🤣🤣 Gracias por la data!
In Secret war, go CRAZY: Wesley Snipes’ Blade Bruce CampBell Mysterio Bring BACK all Mr Fantastic and all FF Tom Cruise Iron Man John Malkovitch and Michael Keaton Vulture
Another fun fact: In Spider-Man Homecoming when Peter is walking to his locker a teenage girl with white hair walks behind him she could be Black Cat Or not cause its an extra
Fun Fact: In The Amazing Spider-Man when Peter sits with Gwen at the end you can see a poster of a jackal which references Miles Warren as The Jackal from The Clone Saga
I would love to see Hobgoblin sometime, but I also want a street level story with Kingpin so I’m excited to see what they do in Spider-Man 4. Hopefully they find a way to tie in Scorpion as well.
I’d like to see a street level crime focused movie in Spider-Man 4 with Scorpion as the main villain but also Tombstone and Kingpin battling for power in the background. Spider-Man could stop some smaller villains at the start as a homage to the original Spider-Man 4 like Overdrive, Speed Demon, Hydro Man and White Rabbit.
funny about Ned Leeds, in No Way Home, both Peters, Tobey and Andrew, said that their Harry´s turned into supervillains who tried to kill them. Ned goes to his Peter and makes the promise that he will never try to kill him, if He ever becames a villain.
You know what actually would have been impossible for Curt to become a Lizard in the movie because he's got a completely different type of job, he makes this clear in Spider-Man 3.
Fun fact that they actually used Raimi version of Lizard in Spider-Man 3 movie tie-in game. I think it wasn't Dylan Baker thou who voiced him in the game but some other voice actor. They also modeled game universes Connors to resemble Dylans Connors. And i personally liked spider-man 3 game version of Lizard. That game still to date is very underrated but it was my first PS3 game and i enjoyed it. Voice acting was pretty bad thou i have to admit that.
Been waiting for Kraven and Black Cat to appear next in love action. Also, ik it's weird but I used to think Donald Menken was Chameleon for some reason.
Fun fact Spider-Man neighbor was post be be kraven the hunter and another fun fact Tobey maguire had a cameo in the dark knight there was a poster in the background when joker was standing before the bank heist
@@ivanthekillerofthanosiamir5002 Mr. Ditkovich becomes Kraven again because Peter doesn't pay his rent and movie will be called Kraven - The Hunt For Rent.
10:02 honestly, i thought an upcoming avengers movie would include spiderman and wolveirne in it, maybe daredevil and blade, but, that wouldn't happen, oh well, at least the MCU connects to the other marvel movies now
If you think about it mcu Ned Leeds is more the equivalent to spider man villain the spot has the power Ned open wormhole is pretty much the same gimmick to the spot has Ned is written to have a genius level thec Genius and again that what the profession that the comic spot is
Honest to God would have preferred if they had decided to use The Lizard in Spider Man 3 as the main villain but instead they chose Sandman and Sony wanted Venom.
Completely agree! Morbius also isn't really a villain and neither is Venom at this point, but I still included them because they are related to the video's subject.
Punisher originally appeared as vigilante as antagonist to Spider-Man. Now they can use Jon Bernthals Punisher with Tom Hollands Spider-Man maybe J.K Simons Jameson tricks Punisher to go after Spider-Man.
But what would be reason for them to fight? Venom is basically hero in his universe in similar sense than Punisher only difference to Spider-Man being that he kills.
18:52…BRUH…it’s the “Sinister Six” for the love of comic books! Alright complaint to video narrorater finished and now for the artist that did the cover of the comic at 18:52, what in the lord voldemort is going on there? Haha alright, it’s clearly past my bedtime, I’m out!
@@YouDontGetMeHighAnymore first off im 25, second i have adhd, third r u really gonna sit here and tell me this mf HAD to say all that just to get to the damn point
Why do you put enfaces on every sentence it’s so annoying This is how you talk: “when Peter. Goes to. The Daily Bugle. And talks to. JJJ. Blah. Blah. Blah”
First of all, don't tell me you saw Mendel as a comic book character in the first movie as "Obvious", literally no one remembers that character, you're capping. Second of all, let people have fun enjoying movies. You aren't superior to anyone for being a jerk.
@@thegreatacolyt1277bro i thought i was a big fan of the raimi films and knew everything but i was genuinely surprised by some of these villains. Not everyone knows everything you know
Thank you for the feedback, I'm constantly trying to improve with each video and I'm working on reading the scripts with a less monotone voice (also the fact that I live in South America and don't get to speak in english every day probably affects my speech now that I think about it lol)
If Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 4 happens, I would prefer if they used the Lizard over the vulture. The lizard has the potential to be a top 5 villain with raimi involved
I really wanted to see how he’ll look like
I actually would've liked to see his Kingpin unless Michael Clarke Duncan was it with Sam Raimi's take on his Kingpin.
Totally! A Raimi Lizard would be so cool! 😍 Even Morbius, a comic-accurate Electro and Tombstone would be great for Tobey. 🤩 I hope Raimi's Spider-Man 4 happens.❤4💙
Ok well I'm glad 4 will never happen
Norman was never the villain in Raimi's movies
Norman Osborn started his company from the ground up. He worked hard his entire life.
Norman is subjected to the deadlines and quotas enforced by a military officer with a personal bias against him. The officer says, "There is nothing I would like more than to see Osborn fail." This is highly unprofessional of the military officer. It is a crime to abuse military rank to attack the livelihood of a person just because you dislike them for a personal reason. The unprofessional officer goes out of his way to contradict Norman out of the officer's own PERSONAL feelings. He coerces a damaging statement from Norman's colleague.
Norman's colleague, an underling, goes over Norman's head and reveals far too much to this officer, over-stepping his boundaries and putting Norman's entire future in jeopardy. This causes Norman to be overwhelmed and panic to the point where he must experiment on himself.
Norman's colleague, the underling, is killed during the experiment. It was basically the colleague's own fault that Norman took the performance enhancers and then went on a violent rampage. If he kept his mouth shut and not overstepped his boundaries, he would be alive.
The unprofessional military officer attempts to sabotage Norman by giving Norman's government contract to another company. Norman sets things right, destroying the officer's physical existence while bombing the other company's testing facility during a demonstration of their weapon. This also showcases Norman's superior weapon over the competition. Theirs didn't stand a chance. The Goblin Glider was the superior weapon.
Profits are up for Oscorp Industries. Norman secures his company's future.
Norman attends a meeting where his associates, board members and so-called "friends" BETRAY him. All of them betray him at once. The board members sell Norman's own company, forcing Norman out of the company he started. Norman pleads with these people not to sell. They refuse. They hold more shares than Norman and the board is unanimous. They show no humanity and they are cold. They are dealt with accordingly, just like the unprofessional military officer. They are destroyed by the weapon they were intending to sell. They were disloyal ingrates.
Norman's son, Harry Osborn, has a friend named Peter who is poor and has no parents. Norman OFFERS PETER A JOB and acts as a FATHER FIGURE to Peter, even giving Peter an NYC apartment RENT-FREE. I don't think anyone grasps how generous and considerate this is.
Peter makes it his personal business to contradict Norman and fight him, imposing his naive will in a situation he knows little to nothing about. Peter not only refuses Norman's gifts, but he physically attacks Norman. Norman makes a generous offer to Peter. Instead of having a serious conversation or coming to an agreement, Peter interjects with bad humor, one-liners and an askew sense of responsibility. Peter becomes romantically involved with Norman's son's girlfriend, MJ Watson. Norman is KILLED fighting this CHILD. Peter Lies to Harry about multiple things and kisses MJ at Norman's funeral.
Norman was the protagonist in my eyes. You CANNOT tell me Norman was the bad guy. Anyone who thinks Norman was the villain is wrong. He was a VICTIM and what happened to Norman was TRAGIC.
In Spiderman 2 J. Jonah Jameson is pitching names for Doc Ock and one of the names pitched is “Dr. Strange” to then Jameson replied “It’s taken” thus making Dr. Strange cannon in Spiderman 2
Andrew Garfield's Peter is the one who seems amazed and somewhat confused by the fact that magic exists. Tobey McGuire just walks through the portal like he was expecting it. He seems to be aware that magic exists.
Buddy this video’s about villains not heroes
@killabean990 If Dr. Stange exists in Tobey's Spider-Verse, it opens the door to the possibility that his Spider-Man has face magic users before. Man-Wolf, Dracula, Morbius, Baron Mordo, Dormamu, etc
@@RemyJacksonHaven't you played the ps2 games?
@Gta78503 Actually only the first 2 based on Tobey's movies. My PS2 died shortly after the second game.
Scorpion is definitely gonna appear in the 4th instalment of the mcu Spider-Man and the one I’m mostly hyped for is hob goblin
Scorpion appeared in Spider-Man: Homecoming. He may be the character to gets the piece of symbiote left behind by Eddie Brock
I've always wanted to see live action adaption of Scorpion. They could use part of Doc Ocks tentacle that was cut off by Goblin in NWH to create Scorpions tail and J.K Simons Jameson help fund to create Scorpion. Other good option is to use Vincents Kingpin as one who funds Scorpion and Scorpion becomes his assassin and Daredevil and Spider-Man need to team up.
I'd like to see Ned get framed as the Hobgoblin, forcing Peter to get involved as Spider-Man to clear his name. Since it would certsinly add to Ned's confusion about Spider-Man. While he may not remember Peter, he and MJ would still remember that they helped Spider-Man during No Way Home. They just wouldn't understand why they were involved. Having Spider-Man actively seek out Matt Murdock to represent Ned, as well as take it upon himself to discover Roderick Kindsley to be the resl Goblin, would be a good way of bringing Peter's friends back into his life
Yeah
This would probably be the best way to do it because I’ve always thought the idea of Ned becoming Hobgoblin was really stupid I know it happens in the comics but I just can’t imagine this specific version being a compelling villain or the actor even having enough range to go from quirky best friend to villain
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 ok
@loganwithlightsabers3051 In the comics it was revealed he was framed by the real Hobgoblin
@@RemyJackson cool
If Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider and Blade connect with Rami's Spiderman the could possible a chance that he can also appear in some Marvel Knights Productions projects even though having so many potential but it failed
All of those movies are connected, Wolverine was supposed to appear in Spider-Man and Mr.Fantastic transformed into Wolverine in a deleted scene.
If you were going with a Marvel Knights Spider-Man I think Scarlet Spider (Kaine Parker) would of been an excellent pick.
Stromm was teased in TASM1 game
And in Marvel's Spider-Man (2018) there's a mention of him in the holographic table, his laboratory is the only one that is not under the protection of Sable, which indicates that is isolated from other Oscorp centers, which at this point, everyone imagines the reason.
the games easily bring and tease many villains, like the TASM 2 game had like almost all villains mentioned here
26:46 Yeah I’m sorry but I would not be able to take this version of Ned as the hobgoblin seriously at all.
Finally someone who agrees he’s good in the quirky best friend role but not believable at all as a compelling villain
@@loganwithlightsabers3051 It would also be odd to see fat Hobgoblin. Besides to me Roderick Kingsley was always the true Hobgoblin.
Fun Fact:
Sam-Raimi actually wanted Spider-Man 4, 5 & 6 to be the Sinister Six Saga featuring Vulture (John Malkovich), Lizard (Dylan Baker), Kraven (Jemaine Clement), Hobgoblin (Aaron Eckhart), Carnage (Jim Carrey) and Electro (???).
The next antihero-turned-ally after James Franco's New Goblin would've been either Black Cat or Vulturess (Anne Hathaway).
There would also be C and D-list villains who would briefly appear including the Prowler, the Shocker, Stilt Man, a "onesie-wearing" version of the Rhino, and the first one being Mysterio, who would've been played Sam Raimi's good friend by Bruce Campbell.
Maybe a new perspective of its best 3
@@greenlanternaquaman
Spider-Man 2 & 3 were originally going to be a lot like these idea, but Avi Arad kept shadow directing Sam Raimi because war-triangles are not their strong points.
We almost had 4 villains in Spider-Man 2 instead of just Doc Ock.
In the 2nd Spider-Man when Jameson was trying to come up with a name for dr.oct they mention dr.strange
I remember that! They said that the "name was taken", it's cool that we did get to see Dr Strange in a Spider-Man movie eventually in No Way Home
@@SantiBarriosFacts💯🔥🐐🐐🕷🕸🐙
They actually used pro wrestler and Late Great Mega Power Macho Man Randy Savage as Ultimate Spider-Man wrestling villain (heel), Greg Bonesaw McGraw. Despite being a supposedly well documented fan of the original, Sam Ramey instead chose to go with the late great Macho Man as Bonesaw instead of Macho Man's Mega Powers teammate, 3 Ninjas 4 High Noon at Mega Mountain Star Dave Dragon himself, Hollywood Hulk Hogan as I think and want to say his name was Jack Crusher Hogan.
Andrew Garfield Spider-Man’s Vulture and Doc Ock sound AWESOME to see!
Also Tom Holand Spider-Man’s Scorpion sounds cool as well
Curt Connor isn’t a villain, Lizard is…
If you had read that issue of Spiderman where the Punisher debuts you would know he wasn’t a villain, he had been hired by the Jackal through Kingpin to take out Spiderman, convincing Castle that Spiderman was a villain, but as Castle was stalking him he realizes he was lied to, which doesn’t end well for Jackal…
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He's Dr. Jekyll not as monstrous as Mr. Hyde but that doesn't mean that they aren't the same guy.
I don’t think Kingpin was involved at all. At least it’s not directly stated in the original comic that Kingpin knew Jackal.
By that logic Norman isn't the villain, Green goblin is.
I find it interesting we got Lizard in the Spider-Man 3 game but no the movies
He was in tasm
@@MvltimccnWis Ik but he wasn’t in the Raimi movies despite how frequent of a character Connors was
@@Right_Bumper Plus they mentioned Doctor Connors in first Raimi Spider-Man too even thou he doesn't physically appear.
Imagine if they did another trilogy
I agree with the Scorpion thing, he needs to get an debute in the live action movies, we only saw him in Spiderman into the spiderverse, and no other new movies
It's the sinister six not the secret six
Damn I just realized I messed up the name my bad, though I do love Catman and Gail Simone's Secret Six lmao
I think venom would have worked way better if he had like small brief scenes and one and two, highlighting his rivalry and jealousy with Peter.
1 hour and 36 minutes into the original Toby Maguire spider-man you can see the head of Fin Fang Foom
You forgot Flash Thompson as Agent Venom.
Another reason Morbius couldn't be used by New Line Cinema for Blade 2 is they didn't own the rights to the character. When Marvel was going through financial difficulties and started selling off cinematic rights to various characters and groups such as The X-Men and Fantastic Four along with Spider-Man, Sony got all Spider-Man agacent characters. And while Morbius flits between a Blade character. He is more commonly associated with Spider-Man. Same with how Fox realised they didn't have rights to Galactus in the Fantastic Four movies and couldn't secure the rights from Marvel who were in talks of being brought by Disney at the time.
Would love to see the hob goblin, my favourite Spider-Man villain! :-) Also not gonna do the spider verse movies or the Sony spinoff movies of which John Jamison also makes a cameo in the first venom? :-) Or other Spider-Man related characters that appeared In other Spider-Man movies such as Morbius in blade II?:-)
Hobgoblin is awesome!! Always loved his design and he'd be really cool to see in live action.
I considered elaborating more on the Sony spin off movies but I'm planning on making a video in the future (probably after Kraven releases) talking more in depth about those movies, and I also thought that this video was getting a bit too long lmao
This whole time i thought the man talking to Connors and Harry was the Finisher.
Harry should've been the Hobgoblin in Spider-Man 3.
I agree! I never really liked Harry's "New Goblin" design, they should've commited to either fully making him the second Green Goblin or better yet, they could've had Harry create the Hobgoblin identity to continue his father's legacy while also having a more distinct identity
I always just called him the Hobgoblin
Only recently have I learnt of the new goblin
That would be way better than MCU Ned being Hobgoblin since the whole trilogy leads up to the conflict between Harry and Peter and Harry constantly grappling with his darker side plus James Franco is way more believable in an action type role than the actor who plays MCU Ned
Am I the only one bothered by the video calling the Sinister Six as the “Secret Six?”
They could have did the mcu connected universe theme along time ago with raimi spider man, fox men, blade, daredevil, ghost rider, and punisher. It would have been better.
You missed Cleatus Kassidy from the Amazing spiderman the psychotic killer who later became Carnage in venom let there be Carnage
The Marvel version of metallo from DC: Mendel stromm
Haven’t watched the video just looked at the thumbnail but even if you didn’t know the name Connors the fact that a university professor with a missing arm was in a spider-man movie should have tipped you off that he could’ve been the lizard
It’d be cool if stromm actually lived and became a cyborg lol
You forgot the F.E.A.S.T. facility in the MCU where aunt may works .....it is a direct nod to Mister Negative(Martin Lee) the owner of the facility
Oh you're right that's awesome! Good catch
Well technically in No Way Home after Ned told Peter that he was magic he said "And I promise you. I won't turn into a super villain and try to kill you."
The landlord was actually supposed to be a retired kraven lol
Sadly that is false
He is rentman
Mr. Ditkovich starts hunting Peter for the rent money: Where is my money?!
Spider-Man is awesome
Hell yeah he is
En the amazing spiderman se pensaba poner también a big wheel un villano de broma que tiene una rueda gigante que usa como transporte
Y también hay artes conceptuales descartados de scorpion y sandman para la secuela
Tienes razón! Hay unos diseños hechos por Tom Zhao que muestran sus conceptos para Sandman y Scorpion, y un cameo de Big Wheel hubiese sido glorioso 🤣🤣 Gracias por la data!
I wished for the amazing Spiderman they would've used Proto Goblin like they intended on doing
In Secret war, go CRAZY:
Wesley Snipes’ Blade
Bruce CampBell Mysterio
Bring BACK all Mr Fantastic and all FF
Tom Cruise Iron Man
John Malkovitch and Michael Keaton Vulture
Another fun fact: In Spider-Man Homecoming when Peter is walking to his locker a teenage girl with white hair walks behind him she could be Black Cat
Or not cause its an extra
Fun Fact: In The Amazing Spider-Man when Peter sits with Gwen at the end you can see a poster of a jackal which references Miles Warren as The Jackal from The Clone Saga
Bruce Campbell was supposed to play Mysterio?
All this time I thought he was God/One Above All
Lizard: goblin
Vulture: sandman
Misterio: dock ock
All this is destroyed by villains disney and sony.
I would love to see Hobgoblin sometime, but I also want a street level story with Kingpin so I’m excited to see what they do in Spider-Man 4. Hopefully they find a way to tie in Scorpion as well.
I’d like to see a street level crime focused movie in Spider-Man 4 with Scorpion as the main villain but also Tombstone and Kingpin battling for power in the background. Spider-Man could stop some smaller villains at the start as a homage to the original Spider-Man 4 like Overdrive, Speed Demon, Hydro Man and White Rabbit.
funny about Ned Leeds, in No Way Home, both Peters, Tobey and Andrew, said that their Harry´s turned into supervillains who tried to kill them.
Ned goes to his Peter and makes the promise that he will never try to kill him, if He ever becames a villain.
You know what actually would have been impossible for Curt to become a Lizard in the movie because he's got a completely different type of job, he makes this clear in Spider-Man 3.
You know, Tom Holland and Joh Bernthal were in a movie together, would love to see a movie based on ASM # 129.
7:25 el hijo de Jameson también apareció en venom fue un astronauta que murio transportando los simbiontes a la tierra
Who cares
@@thegreatacolyt1277 Why are you here, again?
@@thegreatacolyt1277Everyone but you.
Fun Fact Raimiverse Spider-Man didn't have the Avengers
But did have Doctor Strange
Didn't appear
@G1Grimlock94
But he was mentioned
@@kwagz3314 right
Fact:
In the Raimi verse theres no nick fury and shield
Fun fact that they actually used Raimi version of Lizard in Spider-Man 3 movie tie-in game. I think it wasn't Dylan Baker thou who voiced him in the game but some other voice actor. They also modeled game universes Connors to resemble Dylans Connors. And i personally liked spider-man 3 game version of Lizard. That game still to date is very underrated but it was my first PS3 game and i enjoyed it. Voice acting was pretty bad thou i have to admit that.
In Spider-Man 3, the final battle features a guy wearing a very similar suit to Shocker’s
when?
@@theanomalyfactory2649 He’s next to JJJ
I just want 4 part with full freedom for the director
Been waiting for Kraven and Black Cat to appear next in love action. Also, ik it's weird but I used to think Donald Menken was Chameleon for some reason.
Amazing video, thx
Dr. Mendel Stromm Turned Into A Robot Master, With Nanotechnology.
Did you know there was a Jackal Easter Egg in Homecoming
Fun fact Spider-Man neighbor was post be be kraven the hunter and another fun fact Tobey maguire had a cameo in the dark knight there was a poster in the background when joker was standing before the bank heist
You mean Mr. Ditkovich?
@@Latitz yep
@@ivanthekillerofthanosiamir5002 Mr. Ditkovich becomes Kraven again because Peter doesn't pay his rent and movie will be called Kraven - The Hunt For Rent.
Shame Mendel Stromm didn't return in his robotic form and take revenge on Norman Osborne. 😊
4:55 I didn’t know they were in the group picture.
10:02 honestly, i thought an upcoming avengers movie would include spiderman and wolveirne in it, maybe daredevil and blade, but, that wouldn't happen, oh well, at least the MCU connects to the other marvel movies now
But where’s Big Wheel!
Lol
Doesn't the novellization of spiderman 1 reference the hulk's desert rampage from ang lee's hulk 2003 or was that just a fake rumor I read somewhere ?
If you think about it mcu Ned Leeds is more the equivalent to spider man villain the spot has the power Ned open wormhole is pretty much the same gimmick to the spot has Ned is written to have a genius level thec Genius and again that what the profession that the comic spot is
wasnt there a mention of a professor warren in one of the movies?
Ned Leeds would be way too cliche. Friends become enemies while enemies become friends
Can you do X men next!!
.Green Goblin in Year 2002.😐.
What about flash tompson being agent venom
we already have venom doc ock sandman green goblin.
Honest to God would have preferred if they had decided to use The Lizard in Spider Man 3 as the main villain but instead they chose Sandman and Sony wanted Venom.
Consider The Punisher more of an anti-hero not really a villain.
Completely agree! Morbius also isn't really a villain and neither is Venom at this point, but I still included them because they are related to the video's subject.
Punisher originally appeared as vigilante as antagonist to Spider-Man. Now they can use Jon Bernthals Punisher with Tom Hollands Spider-Man maybe J.K Simons Jameson tricks Punisher to go after Spider-Man.
Well wasn't harry hobgoblin but in his own look in spider man 3
He was called New Goblin in the movie.
In the end of Spider-Man no Way home we see venom so in venom 3 the last dance spider man might fight venom
But what would be reason for them to fight? Venom is basically hero in his universe in similar sense than Punisher only difference to Spider-Man being that he kills.
Can you do one for the xmen movies
18:52…BRUH…it’s the “Sinister Six” for the love of comic books! Alright complaint to video narrorater finished and now for the artist that did the cover of the comic at 18:52, what in the lord voldemort is going on there? Haha alright, it’s clearly past my bedtime, I’m out!
sam raimi sm 4 should use Electro
#MakeRaimiSpiderMan4 & #MakeTASM3
is this an ai speaking lmao really
AI is far more dangerous
I didn't like Blade 2.
In he will died
God you droan on so fucking long
Average kid with a short attention span
@@YouDontGetMeHighAnymore first off im 25, second i have adhd, third r u really gonna sit here and tell me this mf HAD to say all that just to get to the damn point
20:20 the word "sinister" is on screen, stop saying "secret". This is actually annoying and making the video much less enjoyable.
your just asking for a comment that says no shit
Too much
Zam
Sinister six not secret six dude. If youre gonna do a video at least get that right.
Your voice sounds like those top tens videos also a lot of run off sentences here
Why do you put enfaces on every sentence it’s so annoying
This is how you talk:
“when Peter. Goes to. The Daily Bugle. And talks to. JJJ. Blah. Blah. Blah”
These are so obvious😂 bro is actung like these movies aren't lazy
First of all, don't tell me you saw Mendel as a comic book character in the first movie as "Obvious", literally no one remembers that character, you're capping.
Second of all, let people have fun enjoying movies. You aren't superior to anyone for being a jerk.
@MrFell. what are you talking about? All I meant is this guy is acting like these reference are some super clever shit when they're all obvious
@@thegreatacolyt1277 As I said, is Mendel's cameo obvious to you?
@@thegreatacolyt1277bro i thought i was a big fan of the raimi films and knew everything but i was genuinely surprised by some of these villains. Not everyone knows everything you know
@@MrFell. yeah
Talking like a robot made me not continue watching.
Thank you for the feedback, I'm constantly trying to improve with each video and I'm working on reading the scripts with a less monotone voice (also the fact that I live in South America and don't get to speak in english every day probably affects my speech now that I think about it lol)