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My Way or Deere’s Way? Have they Been Installing Wheel Weights Wrong?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ม.ค. 2023
- Adding wheel weights to the John Deere 5045E and doing it the way I see as right vs how Deere commonly installs these weights.
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Just wanted to add that the Rural King bolts were around $8.00 verses $112 for the John Deere bolts.
I'm told by my neighbors if you pay more for the genuine Deere parts, your farm will be more profitable..
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Not all bolts are created equal. Cheap Chinese bolts are not USA Deere bolts.
Your way Ben. Been mounting them so the cone fits the dish of the wheel for over 60 years. In the field a gap fills with dirt when it is dry, mud when it is wet, and seeds and vegetation in hay. Seems to me the Deere way is for the other side of the wheel.
Yes it would be better for the other side of the wheel, but I see them mounted cone out even with the dish set my way. Your exactly right! Thanks for watching
Good day Sir, I'M Really Supporting You at 220 % the way YOU are installing these weights YOUR Version 😇👌👍 Cheers 🍻🍻
I really appreciate the encouragement Dave! Your the best!
It doesn’t matter how much weight you put on that tractor it’s never going to lack for power that’s for sure. You have a great machine there.
Thanks for the positive comment!
I think your setup is the best way to install those weights, it looks better 🙋🏼♂️🙂👍🏻
I appreciate that!
I'm going with your way, the weights are cone shaped to fit the center disc, how God intended. You can stack em up on the inside too.
Weight on a tractor makes a world of difference. When I had my 2wd J.D. 5101EN, I had two weights per side and the 16.9-24s as full as allowed with beet juice (rim guard). I could then pull my 500 gallon orchard sprayer up the steep hills on my farm with minimal slipping, just kinda wrinkled the sod, didn't actually spin.
Got told I was crazy for loading the tires by the guy that loaded them, he said "you already have wheel weights, that's gunna be really heavy!" My reply was, "Exactly! I can lift two of those weights at once by hand, but I cant lift that tire once it's filled! No comparison.".
Yes I always go with fluid first then add weights. A properly weighted 2 wheel drive can really accomplish more then most people think. Thanks for watching
Your way makes more sense to me for all the reasons you said,and that gap between the wheel and the weight the JD way is a place for mud and debris gather up and start rust.
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I’m with you Ben. If you’ve ever removed dried mud behind center of the weight you understand my why! The Deere way you get soaked from water spray cleaning center of weight because the “V” is much deeper. And it’s a trash catcher, everything gets trapped, wet grass, wet leaves and etc.
That’s what dad said, to much of a catch for debris. Thanks for watching
I kind of like it standing in back of the tractor the right hand side the way you have it mounted. I have two sets of wheel weights on both sides of my truck, but it looks good. Great video.
Thanks for watching
@@khtractors well, when I added my weights to my tractor, I bought all the boats through John Deere as we as well wasn’t cheap, but it’s all original
It dosent matter, its your tractor and you can mount it however you like. I would mount it the same way you did. 👍
I appreciate that!
Your way looks good.
I see your logic in the installation.
Thanks for sharing.
Take care, Ed.
Thanks 👍
The way they are mounted on the left side to me looks better, fits better, and the center has less of a cavity to collect debris. Grass, dirt, etc.
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Hey Ben. I like the way - your way - seems to mate up nice and tight and flush. If it was me, I'd pull the other side and see how a 2nd weight will mate up on the one you set as your way. If it mounts cleanly I'd stick with your option, as a centered weight will make a big difference at street speeds. Thanks for bringing us along.
Great advice! Thanks for watching
I mounted my 2 sets of wheel weights the same way that you did. It sucks the weights in tighter to the rim & limits the overall length of the "lever arm" that they weights have on the fasteners. I mounted them by myself too. To support them I cut a 2x6 stub to lay on the wheel and set the weight on it and then used 2 prybars to guide it to the carriage bolt holes. I slipped 1x4 stubs in to get it closer, jammed in 2 carriage bolts and just started the nuts to hold it. Then I used the prybars to dial it in and then used my impact to run the nuts down.
With those two studs I was able to lift the weight onto them and it held there while I installed the nuts. Thanks for watching
I like the cone in and agree with you on the look.
Thanks buddy!
I believe the weights are designed to be mount depending on how you have the offset for the rear tires configured. If you had the offset of the wheels set to narrow, the cone would be out. If you have the wheels setup for a wide track, the cones point in like you prefer. Not sure that makes sense.
I agree with your view 100%. But I’ve seen them mounted cone out even with the dish set like ours. Thanks for watching
Your way makes sense, I think the confusion with weights (and this is my opinion) if you mount those weights the "John Deere way" they will not self center per design of the weight. The weight is shaped/dished to self center on the rim and it is reversible to do the same if you mount it to the inside of the rim. They do that so you can add more weight and not stick out too far past the tire if you only did the outside weights. Ideally you could get about 5 weights per tire by adding to both the inside and the outside of the rim and still be almost even with the wide part/sidewall of the tire. Your way All the way!
kubota puts wheel weights on there tractors nicely tidy style and nice and center wich makes it nice
And the center disc is reversible for wheel track width adjustment, so no matter what way anything is configured, the weight cone contour fits the disc contour.
Thanks for the input! Take care!
I never thought of putting weights on my Massey 50. Its already heavy enough I think. I defently like the way you did it. Anything that says a brand name on usally is expensive. I always figured with stuff like that your paying for the name. Thanks for sharing
It seems the older Massey’s and even my Farmtrac are better balanced machines then these new tractors. Thanks for watching
I think you're way will keep dirt or mud from packing between the weights and wheel, like you said either way looks good ,nice video.
Thank you!
Your way is the best way. The closer you can get all of your weight to the axle, the better. Looks better too.
Thank you!
Hello Brother Ben. I like the way you mounted the weights, and for the same reasons you mentioned. : )
Thanks 👍
Happy New Year!
Mine are mounted like yours. I actually have 1 mounted inboard and two mounted on the outside of my 4520 Deere.
I was curious if one would fit on the inside of the wheel. Thanks for watching
Ben you know me pretty good by now & you know I'm all about neatness & the easy way & I think your ways is neater & easier!!!
Thanks buddy!
I like your mounting method-looks a little more rugged. Older Deeres had a base weight plate, then you could add additional weights which would center as they tightened. But! those suitcase weights mounted just ahead of the floorboard. Been around tractors all my life and have never seen suitcase weights mounted in the center of a tractor (yep, I have old tractors)… interesting configuration and effective for straight pulling applications I suppose-would save a bit of wear in the front axle mount and wheel bearings.
I really appreciate your comment! I like the looks of a nicely weighted tractor. Thanks for watching
I’m going to buy a bunch of bolts paint them JD green and yellow then sell them for $100 a piece. Geeesh!!! 😮
*Keep on tractoring!*
Yeah really! The weight price wasn’t to bad but if you bought all the Deere hardware your looking at the price of another weight. Thanks for watching
Ben, I've seen them installed both ways, but I like your way better. Praying for a happy and prosperous new year for you and your family!
Thank you! Hope you have a wonderful year as well!
How's she goin'? The way you mount them seems to be a better solution. The weight is self centering and looks easier to get mounted as well especially with the first nut installed. The price of OE bolts from John Deere doesn't surprise me that they are so expensive. I don't know why dealers do that but they all seem to go that way. Thanks for posting and take care!!!
Thanks for your input! Take care!
Had to go look at our 5045E o see which way the dealer installed the 2 sets.... They mounted them with the wide side out...(your way).......Being as we use ours,,, to put Baron Bundles in the Dry vans we had Basically the same tires that are installed on our Deere 110 TLB (construction) to lower the stance....
Thanks for sharing and for watching!
The way you mounted them looks best in my opinion!
Thank you! I ended up adding 3 to each side more recently.
@@khtractors Nice! 👍 Then i think your tractor looks better than with just one weight on each side.
@@BSS22193 yes it does.
Hi Ben and Happy New Year, I like your way not only because it looks better and centered up better but it seams to put the weights in closer to the center of tractor axle but witch ever way you well be ok
Thanks so much!
Your way looks best for sure. And easier to clean out I believe.
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I agree with your way. Seems to fit better!
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It looks great either way. I don't think you'll notice anything when it comes to horse power if you add another on the wheels. The heavier the better!!
I don’t think it will make much power difference either. Thanks for watching
Chances are JD mounts them in the quickest way possible on the assembly line.
May do that! Thanks
That's kinda odd. My last john deere I had 2018 4044m the wheel weights were mounted the john deere way, but my new 2022 4066r weights were mounted the way you mounted them. Tractors were bought from 2 different deere dealers. But I agree that your way is better and that's how my new john deere is setup currently.
Thanks buddy!
I like your way the best it makes sense . With the weight the JD way it's more likely to start orbiting and work loose , possibly damaging your wheels .
Yes the same worry I had! Thanks
Having worked at a Deere dealer, I saw them mounted both ways. I think for us it boiled down to the technician that installed them, and maybe the style wheel it went on. As far as looks go, I like your way better. I think it would be easier to do it your way as far as lining everything up. We sold weights from a company call North State. They were a lot less than the Deere weights. I traded for a 5400 Deere a few weeks ago, which is a lot like your 5045E, with a little more horsepower, I may eventually put some wheel weights on it too.
I appreciate the information! Thanks for watching
@@khtractors If I remember right, on the 24” and 26” rims, we had to mount them the way you have them, and on the 28” and 30” rims, they could go either way.
I kinda like the way you do it 👍
Thanks 👍
I believe either way will be fine I honestly like the look of both. I’ve seen Deere both ways I can definitely see why you’d want it your way though
Thanks for watching!
You need to install the wheel weights with the look that you like best . For a man that hated he couldn’t get the same rear tire pattern on your Farm trac tractor cause you didn’t like that they looked funny , put them on the Ben Kennedy Way !
If it wasn’t for wasting money I’d still like to get another matching tire 😂! Thanks for watching
Me too , I just the treads should match also
Mine are mounted your way and my dealership put them on that way.
The cone facing out seems reversed IMO and yes if you look at John Deere videos they are all cone out.
I should add that if the wheels are dished in, like yours are, the cone goes against the wheel. If you flipped your wheels so the center dish is out than the weights are mounted cone out. So the correct way to mount the weights depends on which side of the center dish of the wheel you are mounting the weights to.
You must have intellectual people working at your dealership! Thanks for sharing!
Morning Ben, I like your way of mounting the weights.The way JD mounts them with the cone to the outside just doesn't look right.Are you going to put the nuts on all of the mounting studs or just the two? Hope you get this all figured out.Take care, stay safe, stay warm and have a blessed day my friend.🚜👍👏❤️🙏
I only put the inner nuts on two bolts. They held the weight good while I installed the rest. Thanks for watching
I believe the weights look better and make more sense to do it the way you did it especially if your going to add another set.
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Ben, I like your approach and analysis. The cone fitting into the dish makes sense. Since you already have liquid ballast and no front end loader, the liquid ballast should be more than sufficient. It is about 1600#s. I’m just not sure if you are concerned with front to rear stability or side to side. If it is side to side I would like hear your thoughts
The biggest reason for extra weight is our extreme slopes. It helps for side to side stability and keeps you from sliding going down hill pulling towed implements. Plus I just like the looks of a weighted tractor. Thanks for watching
@@khtractors ouch 14.00 for 1 bolt gees no wounder deere overprice on there stuff its about $99.00 for 4 bolts and my kubota has 4 bolts for $20.00 wich cheaper
@@khtractors yours sames what my kubota dealer does same way you did your because makes it look nice
I think your way is right for the way your wheels are dished out. I think if the wheels were dished in the other way (narrow width) then John Deere’s way would work best. I like your way best! Take care!
I agree! But I’ve seen plenty of them mounted backwards even with the dish set like mine. Thanks for watching
Like your way for serviceability and looks.
I’ve been very satisfied with them like this. Thank you
I like the way they look either way. I would say for ease of alignment and installation, I would do it your way. Great video!! Would there be a possibility of a front loader in the future? Just curious.
I would love to have a loader on it to move hay mostly but I doubt we will put one on it. Thanks for watching
Your way is the way that. I’ve been mounting them on my tractors
Good deal!
I like your way best the self centering makes more sense like it should be that way any way
I appreciate the support! Thanks for watching
Thanks for info. Just got 10 of those weights for my 5055D, and looking for a good install method. Like both ways. I was concerned about how much they stick out with the Deere method.
Same here, the Deere way puts them out to far when stacking multiples. Thanks
“Your Way” is the way I have seen every John Deere ever and the wheel weights I’m getting for my John Deere 1025R has weighs that will go in that way. I think of it as more economic, and efficient to have the weights turned in to the wheel. Agin love your John Deere it is sexy
I’m happy with the results of these! Thanks for watching
Hey Ben! I’m pretty sure my guys would go with your way!
Thank you!
I got my John Deere tractor last year my John Deere is the same year of your John Deere
Yes it is! Thanks
Plus my back tires are loaded
I'm not an expert, but I would say my preference is your mounting technique. Great video! I hope it helps some JD fans!
Thanks for watching buddy!
I like your way of mounting the weights better. how much do they weigh ? and what did they cost?
106 lds
They were around $160 each I believe. About 60 cents more a pound then a couple years ago. Thanks for watching
Supporting your way.
Thank you!
I like your way better for my two cents . I just think if you put another set on. It will be inside the rim a little bit more
Have a blessed day
I’m definitely interested in getting another set! Thanks
I like your way better the flat look to me is better than the cone look and fits to the rim better to me
Thank you!
Well I'm sure no expert but I definitely like your way Ben.
Thanks buddy!
The way u done your way is how ours is, the other way fills with dirt and your grandkids will be replacing the wheels when they rust out!
Appreciate your thoughts!
I think the Deere way looks better but that is probably because I am use to seeing them that way. I think your way makes more sense though and if adding another weight down the road it won't stick out as far.
Thanks for watching
I put 5 weights on my john deere with the cone in. They work good.
5 on each side? Thanks for watching
@@khtractors yes. 5 on each side. I have a 5075e 4x4 with a loader.
I've got 5055 with a 520m loader I'm thinking I'm going to put a 3rd one on inside
That probably would help. I’ve got 6 on my Kubota and they weight 165 lbs each.
Your way is better for sure. JD way looks a little bit better but the disadvantages aren't worth it. I like that you added a nut to the studs also. Should add some stability.
Thank you!
I like your way the best it looks good
Thank you! I definitely feel it’s the best option.
Ben, I agree that I would mount weights the way you do. Having them centered is important especially when you’re roading your tractor like you do. On another note, what are the dimensions of your shop? I’m in the planning stages of a new shop and am trying to see what other guys have that works for them.
My shop is 24 x 40 with a room added on the back. Thanks for watching
Thanks Ben. I’m thinking of a 26’x40’ so it’s good to know what you have is serving your needs. Love the channel! Enjoy your content and your giving ways. Keep it up.
I like your way!!
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Black Kitty sighting!!!
You never miss one! Thanks for watching
Ben I like your way it looks better
Thank You
Your way would also hold less debris from piling up behind the weight.
I think so! Thanks for watching
I like your way better. It looks a lot better than John Deere way
Thanks Joey!
@@khtractors you're welcome
This old ky man likes the left side
I appreciate that!
I like your way.
Thank you!
I think it looks better your way.
Thank you!
What about the juice that goes inside the tire for weight?
The tires are filled also! Thanks for watching
Your way!
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I think your way makes more since.
Thank you!
Have you ever considered numbering you shows , some do
I’m too far into it now to start numbering 🤣! Thanks
How many shows have you done in 3 years ?
Your way all day long. Logical and looks better in my opinion.
Thank you!
cone in looks best
Thank you!
Just My opinion Ben knows best!
I appreciate that Jim!
Both ways look good I like your way better my massey ferguson 4707 's bolts to the wheel studs it's got longer wheel studs on it
I like the 4707. The only draw back I saw to them is the turning radius. That’s definitely a tractor on my radar if I ever buy something to replace my M6060. Thanks for watching
@khtractors I work a lot of steep ground I got my tires set then I run the steering stops in mine isn't to bad after I did that
@@robertbryant1103 gotcha. I wondered if it might could be adjusted any.
Or months
I like your way a little better. JD way looks like it would trap mud and debris. Your way looks better.
That’s what we thought! Thanks
Your way seems better to Versace John Deere to the way John Deere are around the center it looks like dirt would collect inside the wheel wait to I guess maybe some of these engineers thinks it might be better who knows but your way to sounds like your way fits better .
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I like your way better. I believe it looks better
Thank you!
I like jd way
I bought jd weights
Factory setup
Thanks for watching
I like the Ben Kennedy way looks better to me.
Thank you!
Hello ben, your way is my way! Minimum 2 weighs on each side and rims set out wide🚜❄️🪵🇺🇸
I’m definitely interested in another set! Thanks Larry!