Hollywood can’t and won’t make a movie of this depth and brilliance. Serious issues here of cruelty, revenge, guilt, envy. Small town laid bare. The young Kirk Douglas is a brilliant addition. And Miss Barbara Stanwyck.
The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers was the film debut of the legendary Kirk Douglas, he was signed for this role by producer Hal Wallis after Lauren Bacall suggested him for it. Kirk and Bacall were friends since both were struggling actors on Broadway, and Lauren had since become a huge star and Humphrey Bogart's wife and used her clout to help Kirk Douglas get his breakout role. After this movie, he would play opposite Robert Mitchum in Out Of The Past, which would really solidify both him and Mitchum as bona fide Hollywood A-Listers. As for Barbara Stanwyck, she does absolutely amazing as the femme fatale here, and proves she's perfect for these roles as she did in Double Indemnity, where she set the bar for all future femme fatales in cinema. Before the likes of Kathleen Turner in Body Heat, Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct, or Rosamund Pike in Gone Girl, there was Barbara Stanwyck in Double Indemnity. Barbara really was one of the greatest actresses and women of her era, or any era for that matter. ❤ Lizabeth Scott is an underrated actress that needs to be remembered more nowadays. To get another sample of her talent, I recommend Desert Fury (1947), where she plays the lead in a grandiose performance alongside Burt Lancaster in an underrated film noir(shot in Technicolor, ironically). Lizabeth was an exceptional actress/woman. Van Heflin, always the consummate professional, you already know the movie will be better with Van in it. Even in supporting roles like his role in Shane (1953), he brings so much extra to the film. If you haven't seen his tour de force performance in the original 3-10 To Yuma alongside Glenn Ford, I recommend it highly. This was directed by Lewis Milestone, who made the original All Quiet On The Western Front, Of Mice And Men, Pork Chop Hill and many more. Also written by Robert Rossen, who would later direct one of my personal Top 10 movies of all time, The Hustler (1961). The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers is a classic. Thanks again, Cult Cinema Classics!
Good evening Azo with such a great movie analysis you didn't leave much more too say I totally agree all the things you wrote the only one you didn't mention was was too late for tears with Lisabeth Scott which she played a very cold hearted femme fatale thanks for the brilliant review 👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.
But the one who played it cool like Barbara Stanwyck and probably borrowed from her style and in a much better job than those other women was Gene Tierney in Leave Her To Heaven .
Kirk Lawrence, and Liz Beth Scott always did it in a past life, 😅but how she cried, and how they showered! But I played her role, and how I built different towns or cities!
Lizabeth Scott isn't as strong an actor as any of the cast, but her naiveté plays in this role. Stanwyck is intense and potent as usual. Very good debut for Kirk Douglas.
Kirk Douglas was so young that his eyes did not look very attractive ... I don't know if after this he just got better looking or if they were putting on makeup on him but in this film his eyes look very washed-out
I took a Universal Studio tour...must've been around 1965. I was just a kid, but I always remember seeing Edith Head. I knew who she was from the credits on all those films she designed for. Seemed like a big deal then, and in a way a bigger deal to me now. She was a legend.
They DO NOT make movies like that anymore, the music, the acting, the dialogue, the sets and the costumes - so dramatic and it's all shot in glorious BLACK AND WHITE !!
The film was amazing. It is so sad that Kirk Douglas becomes a district attorney and gets Martha off the charges with her rich aunt, but then Martha betrays him years later and doesn't even care if he dies drunk falling down those same stairs. I loved the movie.
32:10, tense scene and STANWYCK DOESN'T BLINK. I've seen this in other movies. She can go for a long time, in a tense or emotional scene, without blinking! What a pro!!!!
Замечательный фильм. Как всё-таки приятно смотреть фильмы тех времен. Людей, игравших в них давно уже нет, а фильмы есть и будут сотни лет ( я надеюсь).
Barbara Stanwych rock that scene at lovers ❤Lane pouring her ❤️ heart out and then at the end of it showing how heartless she had become..and I feel for her for falling 😢😂 prey to Walter's father's obsession with the Ivers estate and assets. She was fair game once the Aunt died...If it had been in this era Mrs Ivers who was beating the 🐈 cat would be prosecuted for animal cruelty...Who could blame poor Martha for her defense of her pet peeve..I just don't understand why they would feel so much guilt and shame over what happened decades ago. .All that was needed was to repent and become the best that you can be .. They had to much to offer to go off and end it before their time.. She was right when she said Sam wouldn't tell ....
It was his first movie. He had just left the nave after service in WW2! Lauren Bacall helped him get a screen test. They knew each other from the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in 1940. Douglas was inducted shortly after!
He was so young there that is eyes have a washed-out appearance . So Im wandering that later they must have been putting eye makeup on him ? Either that or he just got better looking after this movie ?
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I can't help but feel that the leading ladies' roles would have been better the other way around... Barbara Stanwyck plays sympathetic characters with a very convincing degree of emotional distress (e.g. I really liked her performance in "Witness to Murder"), whereas Scott's acting tends to be a bit too rigid and standoffish for a 'good girl'. On the other hand, Lizabeth Scott captures the glamorous yet icy/manipulative role of the femme fetale much better (e.g. she was borderline psychopathic in "Too Late for Tears" and "Stolen Face"), compared to Stanwyck who just comes across as constantly disinterested.
I can't believe how differently Kirk Douglas looks here . I don't know if later they started putting some eye makeup on him or is he just got better looking after this .
Barbara wasn’t thrilled to share the same line in billing with Lizabeth Scott above the title. But because Scott was a protégée of Hal Wallis there was nothing Barbara could do. Most people think of Lizabeth Scott as the “Poor Man’s” Lauren Bacall. If this is true, than Lauren Bacall could be considered the “Poor Man’s” Veronica Lake….
Another one is Gene Tierney and Cornel Wilde in Leave Her to Heaven . Beautiful scenery just really spectacular and I'm glad I actually found a color version of it here on the tube .
2/3s in and this is unusually authentic for its time, everyone even the extras are believable, the music is a bit over the top but I guess that was standard.. pass me the popcorn, I'm going in for the finish.. 🍿
Another good one is Gene Tierney and Cornel Wilde in Leave Her to Heaven ... I found it here in color and really it does look better because of all the beautiful locations . It must have been wonderful to see it on the big screen .
_Aww, yes, my dearest Helen! This is the original movie in glorious B&W, as every true noir film must be indeed! It's a great masterpiece from 77 years ago, with a fabulous casting of great stars, each one glowying much more than the other! I hope you enjoy it with us here on CCC movie chat at live! God bless you always, my Sweet Lovelly Princess from Kollywood, in the Enchanted Kingdom of Tamil Nadu!_ 🤩🤩🤗🤗❤❤❤❤
I am continually miffed that in this copy and the TCM current broadcasts of the film have a break or edit in the film. In particular the scene of Stanwyck and Heflin in her untouched childhood room. There is a break in their conversation. Am I the only one in the world that realizes this? the unedited scene consists of Stanwyck standing up and walking away from Heflin (sitting in front of the window) and Stanwyck asks, "all right Sam...why did you back to Iverstown?" ..Heflin says, "well the road, it turned, I didn't"....Stanwycks says "Answer me"!!!! (see the unedited scene on youtube on the Fandor full version of the film.....)
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brilliant film but i dont get the ending. why did martha put her thumb on the trigger to shoot herself? there was no clue she was goin to commit suicide.
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@@CultCinemaClassics another good one is Leave Her to Heaven , with Gene Tierney and Cornel Wilde . The scenery is so beautiful throughout the movie that I was glad I was able to find it in color here .
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Hollywood can’t and won’t make a movie of this depth and brilliance. Serious issues here of cruelty, revenge, guilt, envy. Small town laid bare. The young Kirk Douglas is a brilliant addition. And Miss Barbara Stanwyck.
I had forgotten how really good this movie is. I won't wait so long next time to watch it again.
The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers was the film debut of the legendary Kirk Douglas, he was signed for this role by producer Hal Wallis after Lauren Bacall suggested him for it. Kirk and Bacall were friends since both were struggling actors on Broadway, and Lauren had since become a huge star and Humphrey Bogart's wife and used her clout to help Kirk Douglas get his breakout role. After this movie, he would play opposite Robert Mitchum in Out Of The Past, which would really solidify both him and Mitchum as bona fide Hollywood A-Listers.
As for Barbara Stanwyck, she does absolutely amazing as the femme fatale here, and proves she's perfect for these roles as she did in Double Indemnity, where she set the bar for all future femme fatales in cinema. Before the likes of Kathleen Turner in Body Heat, Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct, or Rosamund Pike in Gone Girl, there was Barbara Stanwyck in Double Indemnity. Barbara really was one of the greatest actresses and women of her era, or any era for that matter. ❤
Lizabeth Scott is an underrated actress that needs to be remembered more nowadays. To get another sample of her talent, I recommend Desert Fury (1947), where she plays the lead in a grandiose performance alongside Burt Lancaster in an underrated film noir(shot in Technicolor, ironically). Lizabeth was an exceptional actress/woman.
Van Heflin, always the consummate professional, you already know the movie will be better with Van in it. Even in supporting roles like his role in Shane (1953), he brings so much extra to the film. If you haven't seen his tour de force performance in the original 3-10 To Yuma alongside Glenn Ford, I recommend it highly.
This was directed by Lewis Milestone, who made the original All Quiet On The Western Front, Of Mice And Men, Pork Chop Hill and many more. Also written by Robert Rossen, who would later direct one of my personal Top 10 movies of all time, The Hustler (1961).
The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers is a classic. Thanks again, Cult Cinema Classics!
Azo a treasure of information ,thanks!
Good evening Azo with such a great movie analysis you didn't leave much more too say I totally agree all the things you wrote the only one you didn't mention was was too late for tears with Lisabeth Scott which she played a very cold hearted femme fatale thanks for the brilliant review 👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.
But the one who played it cool like Barbara Stanwyck and probably borrowed from her style and in a much better job than those other women was Gene Tierney in Leave Her To Heaven .
Kirk Lawrence, and Liz Beth Scott always did it in a past life, 😅but how she cried, and how they showered! But I played her role, and how I built different towns or cities!
Lizabeth Scott isn't as strong an actor as any of the cast, but her naiveté plays in this role. Stanwyck is intense and potent as usual. Very good debut for Kirk Douglas.
A strong personality though.
And Miklos Rosza.
I have watched this movie 3 times. I love it. Kirk Douglass so young and Van Heflin is great in anything he did.
I have watched this movie 33 times.
Kirk Douglas was so young that his eyes did not look very attractive ... I don't know if after this he just got better looking or if they were putting on makeup on him but in this film his eyes look very washed-out
Barbara Stanwyck received excellent support from Van Heflin, Kirk Douglas,Lizabeth Scott,and best of all, Edith Head's costume designs
Edith Head was Barbara’s favorite fashion designer and she was a major part written into every film contract Barbara signed.
No Edith, no Barbara 😊
I took a Universal Studio tour...must've been around 1965. I was just a kid, but I always remember seeing Edith Head. I knew who she was from the credits on all those films she designed for. Seemed like a big deal then, and in a way a bigger deal to me now. She was a legend.
Heflin was amazing in Johnny Eager. I think he was nominated for a best supporting actor. Can't remember if he won or not.
Van Heflin did win an Oscar for "Johnny Eager" , I believe....in 1943???
Bravo, bravo, bravo!!! I could watch this movie a million times. Classics, esp noir.
Van Heflin is a great-quality actor. Always enjoyable to watch.
They DO NOT make movies like that anymore, the music, the acting, the dialogue, the sets and the costumes - so dramatic and it's all shot in glorious BLACK AND WHITE !!
The film was amazing. It is so sad that Kirk Douglas becomes a district attorney and gets Martha off the charges with her rich aunt, but then Martha betrays him years later and doesn't even care if he dies drunk falling down those same stairs. I loved the movie.
Martha was totally all about herself. Even as a young woman, she was planning her future only for herself in mind.
Great movie! One of my favorites.
Really its strange but strong love story...thanx for uploading this 👌👌
32:10, tense scene and STANWYCK DOESN'T BLINK. I've seen this in other movies. She can go for a long time, in a tense or emotional scene, without blinking! What a pro!!!!
Thriller 50's film noir psychologically strong
Actually, this is from 1946.
Excellent work by all the leads. Kirk Douglas was good even this early in his career.
❤Barbara. Always so charming
And he’s the total gentleman indeed.
Great movie! Found on dvd at Walgreens for .25!😮
Замечательный фильм. Как всё-таки приятно смотреть фильмы тех времен. Людей, игравших в них давно уже нет, а фильмы есть и будут сотни лет ( я надеюсь).
Barbara Stanwych rock that scene at lovers ❤Lane pouring her ❤️ heart out and then at the end of it showing how heartless she had become..and I feel for her for falling 😢😂 prey to Walter's father's obsession with the Ivers estate and assets. She was fair game once the Aunt died...If it had been in this era Mrs Ivers who was beating the 🐈 cat would be prosecuted for animal cruelty...Who could blame poor Martha for her defense of her pet peeve..I just don't understand why they would feel so much guilt and shame over what happened decades ago. .All that was needed was to repent and become the best that you can be .. They had to much to offer to go off and end it before their time.. She was right when she said Sam wouldn't tell ....
Shades of Nightmare Alley. A ghastly dystopian world.
Kirk was such a good bad guy
This was when Kirk Douglas was on the rise
That's what she said.
It was his first movie. He had just left the nave after service in WW2! Lauren Bacall helped him get a screen test. They knew each other from the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in 1940. Douglas was inducted shortly after!
He was so young there that is eyes have a washed-out appearance .
So Im wandering that later they must have been putting eye makeup on him ?
Either that or he just got better looking after this movie ?
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I can't help but feel that the leading ladies' roles would have been better the other way around... Barbara Stanwyck plays sympathetic characters with a very convincing degree of emotional distress (e.g. I really liked her performance in "Witness to Murder"), whereas Scott's acting tends to be a bit too rigid and standoffish for a 'good girl'. On the other hand, Lizabeth Scott captures the glamorous yet icy/manipulative role of the femme fetale much better (e.g. she was borderline psychopathic in "Too Late for Tears" and "Stolen Face"), compared to Stanwyck who just comes across as constantly disinterested.
I can see the roles being switched but I prefer it the way it is. Barbara Stanwyck was terrific at playing villains.
Good point 👍
I can't believe how differently Kirk Douglas looks here .
I don't know if later they started putting some eye makeup on him or is he just got better looking after this .
@gardensofthegods Some people's beauty gets getting better with age. 😉
Looks the same to me.
Barbara wasn’t thrilled to share the same line in billing with Lizabeth Scott above the title.
But because Scott was a protégée of Hal Wallis there was nothing Barbara could do.
Most people think of Lizabeth Scott as the “Poor Man’s” Lauren Bacall. If this is true, than Lauren Bacall could be considered the “Poor Man’s” Veronica Lake….
For some reason my dad never like Lauren Bacall and I remember him saying she was a piece of cheese ... but I know my Dad loved Veronica Lake
I think it's fair to say that Liz Scott is a "poor man's Lauren Bacall" but I still enjoy her.
And Veronica Lake could be considered the "Poor Man's" Lana Turner.
Thank you I enjoyed that, I never watch film noir in colour it ruins the authenticity.
She is so innocent she doesn’t know the Gideons Bible. ❤
Van Heflin, Lizabeth Scott, Barbara Stanwyck, and Kirk Douglas -- what more could you ask for?
(Color yuck)
Exactly! Black and white is so much better.❤
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Don't they know it's an art form?
Good to see your comment.
Lauren bacall 😍
I actually enjoy them both , the classic black-and-white and also sometimes enjoy seeing them in color
Another one is Gene Tierney and Cornel Wilde in Leave Her to Heaven .
Beautiful scenery just really spectacular and I'm glad I actually found a color version of it here on the tube .
Liz has fabulous hair.
All the cast are superb!
Love Lizabeth Scott
Dark. Lovely. Perfect Noir
Great movie , indeed ❤ !!
Sadly the commercial interruptions chased me away. I found this movie elsewhere.
This ones amazing..
I luv Barbara!
2/3s in and this is unusually authentic for its time, everyone even the extras are believable, the music is a bit over the top but I guess that was standard.. pass me the popcorn, I'm going in for the finish.. 🍿
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brilliant film
Another good one is Gene Tierney and Cornel Wilde in Leave Her to Heaven ... I found it here in color and really it does look better because of all the beautiful locations .
It must have been wonderful to see it on the big screen .
Smoking and no brushing teeth before bed
Malignant force of a denied woman.
Black and white ❤❤❤❤❤❤
_Aww, yes, my dearest Helen! This is the original movie in glorious B&W, as every true noir film must be indeed! It's a great masterpiece from 77 years ago, with a fabulous casting of great stars, each one glowying much more than the other! I hope you enjoy it with us here on CCC movie chat at live! God bless you always, my Sweet Lovelly Princess from Kollywood, in the Enchanted Kingdom of Tamil Nadu!_ 🤩🤩🤗🤗❤❤❤❤
I really liked Van Heflin in 310 to Yuma, which, like this one, is another great film. 🎦
Thank you
Thanks.
I am continually miffed that in this copy and the TCM current broadcasts of the film have a break or edit in the film. In particular the scene of Stanwyck and Heflin in her untouched childhood room. There is a break in their conversation. Am I the only one in the world that realizes this? the unedited scene consists of Stanwyck standing up and walking away from Heflin (sitting in front of the window) and Stanwyck asks, "all right Sam...why did you back to Iverstown?" ..Heflin says, "well the road, it turned, I didn't"....Stanwycks says "Answer me"!!!! (see the unedited scene on youtube on the Fandor full version of the film.....)
Haunting music
Kirk's very first movie
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Who cares? We're watching a movie. Go away.
brilliant film but i dont get the ending. why did martha put her thumb on the trigger to shoot herself? there was no clue she was goin to commit suicide.
Obsessed
For those of us who love Film Noir, this film is slow.
I disagree. Strongly. The pacing is perfect.
Ta very mucha.
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@@CultCinemaClassics another good one is Leave Her to Heaven , with Gene Tierney and Cornel Wilde .
The scenery is so beautiful throughout the movie that I was glad I was able to find it in color here .
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It's a classic! The Girl from Tamil Nadu will love it! Just ask Stan Getz! ☕✔😎
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