When you said "I'm saying you could be a liar and you don't even know you're lying" my first thought was "You _can't_ lie if you don't know you ARE lying because to you is truth" and it made me realize I am a NFP after all. Thank you, I had my doubts.
To me, a lie is purposeful, I don’t believe you can be lying if you think you are speaking truth… you can be wrong or misinformed but that’s not the intentional dispensing of bad info…
you are not wrong, the last INFP lecture I did was pretty positive so in order to be even handed, I needed to focus on some of the lesser traits because I almost ignored them previously.
This isn't balance, this pure unadulterated hate. And it's off. Because we don't care about sources or graphs. We judge based on what people believe and why they believe it. If we ask for a source then we're not learning why they believe it. We're just learning where they got their info, that's not the same thing. I have been repulsed by this trait seen all over society, but it can't be from infps because as he said. WE STAY IN THE SHADOWS, WHERE NO ONE IS AFFECTED BY US. Tjs are the ones who ask for sources because they care about accurate facts. Fps want to know why people believe it and they prefer it when it comes straight from the person, no outside information. You need to stop this assumption about infps because it's wrong. And I will not take it. Tell the truth or shut up!
Joe P yes, it took showing the video to my sister to understand a few of the things he was saying. I know it's easy for people to get the wrong impressions of us, but that's just what it is, an impression. I'm glad he said it, if he's also willing to see the truth. It doesn't matter how I feel about what he said, what matters is if it's true or not. And in his case a few things were untrue, like the graph. After hearing a blatant lie about us, it's hard to switch back over and listen for any further truths. I know it wasn't supposed to be taken personally, and through my sisters help, I've realized that he meant we are a contributing factor to this problem, but he wasn't blaming us solely, or even as the leaders. We do want to know what people think, but it doesn't mean we just blindly trust what people say. We trust our small group for info, and even if we nod with them, all throughout the following years, we're comparing that to what we believe and what others believe. He made it sound like we're sheep that have no ability of being rational or finding the truth, and that's not true either. All this, he possibly could have found out just by talking to us about our processes, but instead, apparently, he just watched an interaction, and drew several false ideas. Yes, I do take it seriously, because it's our reputation, and he should be careful to speak true, instead of focusing on his opinion of what we are. It's not about him offending me, it's about the fact that he made several easily misinterpreted statements. And all of the hatred that he seemed to have for infps, is also severely misdirected because I agreed with everything that made him mad, and I have in the past, and I still will in the future! I'm so tired of every thinker thinking we're stupid! And I'm so tired of every observer thinking we're cute. Seriously, rainbows? Is there no one who can just see us as we are? Not perfect, not cute, not stupid, but kind, patient, dedicated, unlimited to certain perspectives, able to see light and darkness and being effected by both, hopeful for a better world, and unconvinced that people would ever be willing to try for one. I'd almost wish that everybody would just stop talking about infps, because if we're lucky, they'll get it right, and if they're even slightly wrong, then they're perpetuating lies about what we are. I came here wanting the truth, the good and the ugly bad, but instead, I still got a persons somewhat correct assumption of what we are, including personal biases. I'm sorry to any personality out there who hates us, because they think we're gullible, or that we don't speak up when we should, or that we too hesitant when we stay quiet, or to brazen when we do speak up, there is no working with people, because everyone in the entire world wants us to be something we're not! (I'm sorry for the rant.)
Really enjoyed this. Found myself nodding my head in several places. As a mature INFP, I sometimes find myself disagreeing with certain things in some of the INFP analysis in some of your videos. Then I stop, cast my mind back to when I was younger and realize, wow, I spent a lot of my twenties (or even into my thirties)doing that or behaving that way. I've grown quite cynical in certain areas to protect myself from my own gullibility and inability to see through to the truth. I need a lot of time sometimes to get the truth. The only thing that I have really difficult time with is the 'cite your sources'. Not disagreeing with you, really, but just recognizing that that is not a huge deal in my life. Never has been. I'm always more interested in the idea, even when it makes me really uncomfortable (and this often happens). But new ideas, even if they're just new to me, are some of my favorite things. Although, I have to tell you, I'd definitely speak up and tell you were going the wrong direction. The conflicted days are gone for me. I'd be more interested in getting where we're going than being deterred God only knows where. What you said made perfect sense, I"m just glad I've overcome that crap. As for power? I think it is most the dangerous drug known to mankind. I dislike using it, I dislike people trying to gain it over me. I completely agree with your take on society. I fear we've lost the ability to think for ourselves. I really treasure my ISTP friend for their logic and ability to cut through the BS. I need more folks like that in my life. Thank you for your generosity in sharing your knowledge. Sometimes, I think, SO.MANY.WORDS. But after this comment, I have no room to talk. And you always have a point to make. I appreciate it.
Talking about INFPs not saying things because they fear they'll be seen as a bother, I can't even repeat what I'm saying when people don't hear me well and answer other things because I feel they'll be ashamed of it
OMG, I was laughing my ass off while listening to that story about the INFP just sitting in silence in the car as you went the wrong way, ruining the deal. It's SO TRUE, almost like a comedy of errors! My girlfriend is an INFP and she totally does this. It's not funny while it's happening. It's frustrating as hell but funny in hindsight.
Whenever I try to tell someone they're doing something wrong, they never believe me, so I've resorted to just silently judging and hoping it turns out okay anyway lol. Absolutely not the best solution, am working on better ways of communicating so that no one has any reason to doubt my instructions.
ENFP here. Insanely accurate and insightful lecture. Especially relate to the "worthiness" aspect. Also, feeling quite validated in my bibliophilia, which is awesome. Thanks!
In my personal experience one of the best things we INFPs can do is to learn to connect our thoughts to words and coherent sentences and increase our vocabulary. Then we have an arsenal of ways to say things and can more easily find the confidence to speak our minds. Like in that car if I didn't want to sound bossy I would go all informative behind the scenes-mode and hint a question of whether the driver knows the way. We need to practice talking, interacting and sharing our thoughts while simultaneously reading and learning stuff. INFPs tend to be talented with language but we should develop our verbal use as well as the writing. The best way is to have discussions about topics you're interested in and then expand into other areas, finding connections and more possibilities. That builds our inner world, develops our philosophies and in time makes us capable of just about anything.
Hmmm I ( supposedly INFP) don't at all relate to believing everything I see on CNN or some graph. I am the exact opposite. I generally am not very trusting towards things like that and definitely verify a lot.
This actually makes more sense because you have pessimistic te. Not only is it pessimistic, but it's the inferior, so your naturally afraid of what other people think. The inferior is our source of fear and insecurity. Enfps would be much more likely to believe everything they see and maybe because of faulty logic. Ti trickster really wants to verify things, but it's just not the best at it sometimes. Infps have ti demon though, so they don't really trust their logic at all and don't want to. They will see what a lot of other people think in order to decide what to believe. Just because infps don't want to verify things themselves using their own logic, doesn't nessesarily mean they will believe everything.
@@SantanaBanana47 'Love Who' did an amazing accurate video on Infp. Their thinking comes from a deep place almost non material in a sense. They have to value and do look deep into logic to validate their inner system and upgrade it. It's just feelings comes first then they match it with the rest of the world which makes sense why they are reserved. They are aware about possibly being wrong. Also they have a drive of individuality and authenticity so Idk what video meant about infp being a problem to causing society to become stagnant. It seems to me Infps would be the ones who bring original ideas imo
Ne hero is seeing many possible directions and outcomes out of one experience/one idea. I'm guessing his emotions are linked to his Ne like that. Either that or the hidden power of simply having a bad day i'm guessing.
@@YEDxFILMS Some of his videos are real hippie man. I remember saying something along the lines of "if we hard shift into our superego we literally die!" which caught me hella off-guard.
More likely your INFP friend didnt even realise you're going the wrong way. Se trickster 😭 me (infp) and my infp best friend get lost constantly cos neither of us pay attention to where we are going
You should try being Se inferior (INTJ). As soon as the sun goes down, if I can't see the lights on the hills, I get lost. In my own medium sized city of 500 000, I've spent 45yrs living in. If I was a missile and you shot me at a plane, as soon as I turned upside down; I would lose the sky, and smack into a school bus.
It's so hard to tell people things because the moment I gain the courage to do so they argue with me. Tell me I'm controlling. Say my intentions are impure. Then when I stay quiet I'm lectured for being apathetic and uncaring. Ne inferior people do this to me all the time.
Definitely an NFP here, but I was split between the E & I. This helped clarify it. I think we ENFPs value our downtime to recharge, so it’s easy to think of yourself as an introvert. But only for an hour or so. (And I would have quickly said, “Dude, you’re going the wrong way.”) Thanks for diving deep!
Having inferior "Te" Is painful for me. I know I should speak up. I see others do it all the time. It physically and psychologically pains me to get on to others or steer others, especially if they are not my child or spouse. I do, however have social anxiety and panic disorder.. So I'm sure those do not help. I could relate to your friend in the car that made you miss the turn for your meeting. I'm sure they felt so horrible. I don't know if I'm am Infp or Isfp but I do know that I have an inferior Te. ☕ cheers to all my other inferior Te users. ☕
I am willing to bet the Infp guy actually didn't notice that you were going the wrong way due to Se blindspot at that moment and thought it was too late when he did realize and thought "I should have warned him earlier, if I do it now it's going to be awkward"
This lecture reminds me of the quote, “Authority becoming truth as opposed to truth being the authority“ I’m an INFP attempting to dispel this state of mass insanity to which society has fallen prey. I can’t agree that I uphold source above content since I’m aware that sources have become corrupt- a strategy often used in totalitarian regimes.
My SI doesn’t remember tasks. It remembers feelings. I’ll forget every practical task unless it’s repeated over and over but I’ll remember almost every feeling and deep conversation. I’ll remember what people tell me about themselves but I’ll forget the task I was shown almost immediately. Then again, I have a poor working memory with my ADHD.
You're are absolutely fascinating to me. You're so absolute and consistent in your opinions that it's hard not to watch with a feeling of trust. Keep doing what you're doing!
Hey, ENFP here, believe me :-), (at least some) INFP Enneagram 6 tend to question nearly everything all the time, especially authority :-). Thank you for your videos, anyway.
Hi🙋🏻♀️! I want to thank you tremendously for helping me as an INFP understand my weaknesses even though I saw ppl calling you mean and harsh even a jerk and to be honest i felt that way too from the first time I listened to you (sorry😬) but I decided to ignore those feelings and keep listening instead with an open mind to figure out what is it exactly that you’re trying to convey? I have to tell you that I’m literally crying right now listening to this because I finally understood why you come off this way, and I LOVE and RESPECT you for it. I now understand that your harsh and mean (even sometimes as*holish) words are actually DRY SINCERITY to help us become better ppl. I will forever be grateful to you for it. Plz keep the burning wisdom coming, we desperately need it🔥❤️👍. Edit: There’s one more thing i want to add. You listed the ENTP in the intellectual temperament but MAN the idealism is strong with you😄. The ideas you convey are so idealistic they make ME (yeah an INFP) feel like the realistic one 😆 but actually i like that about you because it’s motivational which is something I used to think that I’m immune to. I’m 30 years old and my whole life no one has ever been able to motivate me to do something unless it came from within me already. However i was wrong because you got this Ni critic feeling quadruple energized lol to become the most idealistic version of herself which scares me to be honest lol. I guess the reason I decided to listen to you initially was because I could feel the sincerity coming from you but i couldn’t pinpoint/define what it was accurately in the beginning (because I’m not used to sincerity feeling so dry) until now when it just hit me and I started crying because I judged you wrongly and I’m genuinely sorry for that. like I said you yourself seem to be concerned about the future of our race and I might be wrong but i can also feel that you want to contribute to bringing that change we need by teaching INFPs and the other 15 types what our duties are in order to get our a*ses off to work. So again thank you tremendously for that❤️.
lol as an infp, I have also idly sat by while someone drove in the wrong direction. when questioned, I told them I thought they must have gotten different information to me and I believed they knew where they were going because they were the driver and didn't question the direction
ENFP here. Some of this resonated with me....but something that is continually frustrating to me is the portrayal of ENFP's as "salesmen" or being a walking "brand". People concerned with selling an idea or their "brand" are often more concerned w:ith the sale than they are their own integral authentic compass. Authenticity is EVERYTHING to ENFP's. If that resonates with someone else, great. If it doesn't, that's ok too. But we aren't projecting authenticity to try to sell something. We just are authentic. Period. I'm whimsical and wizardly AF, but that doesn't mean I'm looking for validation for it. Validation does sometimes happen as a by-product....but a healthy ENFP doesn't seek attention. We just create a world, and communicate that world, so that attention seems to follow us. Or not. Either way, though......we're fine. :-)
Authenticity is not everything to ENFPs, that is a misnomer. ENFPs prefer to "look authentic" and often times do not even realize it. INFJs are far more authentic. If you do not resonate with this at all, have you looked at INFJ? Healthy ENFPs seek attention all the time, they want to be wanted.
@@CSJoseph - No - I consistently test as an ENFP and I know quite a lot about INFJ's - I've dated 2 of them and know of the vast complexity - good and bad - in that very rare type. In all honesty I've never heard anyone explain an ENFP as being, basically, smarmy and only authentic as some sort of front to get attention. There are many publications describing ENFP's who note that we value highly authenticity in ourselves and in our relationships. We can "feel" when someone is trying to sell us something and bristle when it doesn't feel authentic. To characterize us as a walking "brand" is highly one dimensional and and doesn't even remotely delve into the nuances that make up our love of connecting with others. Being liked is often a natural by-product of our authentic connections. But a healthy ENFP isn't striving to be liked. It's not where our central passion lies. We have PLENTY of challenges being an ENFP (tough time finishing projects, many projects going on at once can make us scattered if we don't work at it), but we are pretty allergic to inauthenticity. It's a repellent for me.
ENFP "What you believe can be your reality if you want ... I try to make the world a better place ... I hate people's negative energy." INFP "I'm a good person who helps everyone get along ... I don't know why he was hating on me ... I just wasn't getting good vibes from him."
INFP not scared that something bad will happen. INFP thinks that you took the wheel and if you not ask help it's your destiny to make some mistakes unless you wish to ask opinions from others. INFP will tell you 100% that you are doing mistake if you ask.
INFP here. I laughed about the going the wrong direction story. There have been plenty of times this sort of thing happens around me because I didn't speak up. Generally, I just think other people have a better idea about how to do things in the physical world and I'm guilty of relying on others too much to handle these sorts of things (clumsiness in the physical world doesn't help our confidence). There's a higher likely-hood of it happening in high pressure situations. I'm terrible at making decisions quickly and feel like I need more information to go on other than just my instinct to show other people. You see, I don't even trust my own intuition a lot of the time because so often I'm asked why I think it's right and I don't have the words to explain in the moment. I'm always second guessing myself. So that instance of your INFP co-worker not telling you you were going the wrong way may have just been a moment of doubt for them. They probably thought you had information that they didn't. I know if I was put in that situation I would have acted similarly. However, if I knew for sure that we were going the wrong way I personally would have spoken up.
This describes it so perfectly!! 100% relate on the guilt of relying on others too much on doing things in the physical world lol. I always feel like I simply don’t have enough information when (almost always) I do! And expressing it in the moment would have actually been beneficial.
This is going to be a bit long, but I really like your videos so I thought to share my experience as an INFP, when it comes to requiring sources. I am almost 25, female. I've developed Te so much throughout the years that me and my INTP brother are almost identical in how we rationalize and analyze things. I did this because I saw that every argument in my family was done solely based on feelings and logic didn't matter. No one would claim responsibility for their actions because tears and hurt feelings were more valid than them admitting wrongdoing. Things would blow up because feelings would get hurt and in an attempt to avoid that, I'd in turn force myself to have reason, logic and evidence behind my statements rather than blowing it out of proportion because of how it made me feel. That's why I resonate so much with my INTP brother. When he and I discuss, it's all in regards to facts rather than how it makes us feel emotionally. We agree on almost everything because of this. It's why my close ENFP friend was surprised I was an INFP because, I quote "You are not very emotional, you are quite rational actually". I love analyzing statistics and going deep into the "why" of statistics, not just accepting them as fact without understanding what is the cause behind such a statistic. Those same statistics turned me away from feminism, after seeing what was actually going on rather than what the media, women and men around me were portraying by using anecdotal evidence and never looking at the other side of things. That causes a lot of trouble with everyone else who completely dismisses statistics as being unreliable, solely because they never bothered to verify anything and because they cannot emotionally accept it. An example being statistics that point to a majority of criminals growing up in fatherless homes. Most people's response to me when I have said that is "How dare you judge women?", I am not joking. So yes, I tend to require sources or proof when someone makes a statement that I either think is wrong or that I know is wrong. But, I do this to understand why they see things that way, rather than in an attempt to prove them wrong, which is what my INTP brother does, on the other hand. I wish people would return the favor rather than shutting me down with arguments such as "Well, this is my opinion" "You are sexist for saying that" "Statistics lie" and so on, without a shred of evidence or at least an explanation other than their feelings.
As an Infp, there are some limiting capacties especially if I'm in my depressive state. It puts a damper on things. My dream world can be out of this world. I can see like a vivid paradise in my mind. I will throw in there that I'm type 5 so I can channel my analytical side. I can be like a hermit. I've told someone that wanted me to join in that I'm not super talkative, but I think it's because I have to be warmed up. I can pick up on their disgust. I withdraw back into my inner thoughts.
Cant finish thoughts in their head and musing without thought - that is so interesting and accurate. Although I am INFP not ENFP, but I resonated with that. I need my INFJ partner to discuss things through to reach a conclusion, otherwise I am unable to really finish thoughts in my head, unless I spend a lot of active thinking time on it, which I don't really like doing. So instead I feel it, try to convey it to my partner with fuzzy words who instantly gets it and puts it into words.
INFP here; if I'm in a car with someone and they start going the wrong way and I notice, that fucker's gonna get told straight up lol. I feel I can be too assertive with things like this sometimes and either piss people off or frighten them because I'm usually quite reserved. Great video though; I really appreciate the depth you go into and the articulation you are able to deliver it with. Get well soon.
A little over a year ago my entire world literally came crashing down after asking myself a simple question "is this really true?" I realized that I never took the time to critically think about the principles I lived by and wholeheartedly believed in. It was like hitting the restart button on my life (I like your restart button metaphor). I had to get away from everyone I was close to and even cut ties in order to rebuild my life from scratch. My biggest fear was worrying about what others would think of me if I expressed my doubts and reasoning. Also, I valued the few close friendships I had in my previous life and I was caught in between pretending everything is ok and going to pursue the truth. Letting go of that fear gave me a lot of strength. I realized that it's better to be alone than delusional with company. I wonder if this happens to others? Do people out of nowhere get insight that forces them out of their comfort zone? -infp
Yes, it also happened to me. My world crashing down 5 years ago and after that I was like shutting down. Then I realized I couldn't let this anymore, so 2 years ago I restarted my life. I force myself to go out of my comfort zone. I left everything to start over. Now everything is okay but I am too comfortable with my new zone.
Can a poor ENFP motivate others? I am a teacher and I think I'm great at motivating students ,but I don't own an expensive house or a car....What other things can ENFPs use as a brand ? / maybe something spiritual or a lifestyle ? I like to stand out from the crowd, that's true.
INFP here. I guess when it comes to the spectrum I am a more assertive INFP. I'd rather be correct and point out false information than watch people base thought or waste time on something erroneous. Granted, I will leave the situation or switch the subject after setting things straight because I don't want the attention on me, and I'd like to avoid any feelings from others that they are inferior because they believed something that isn't true. I just don't want the group to be misguided or carry that false information forward. Although, if it's someone who I don't really like or have a prior image of them being ignorant or not having adequate respect for my introverted tendencies, I may just sneakily let them believe false information and leave them to find out the truth at a later, unexpected time. Which, admitting this, makes me feel slightly devious XD
Okay, I have calmed down a little bit, showed most of this video to my intj sister, who has helped me see what you're trying to say. First off, infps don't just trust anyone for information, they trust their small group of trusted people. And yes, the info gotten there is sometimes wrong and never checked, but it's because our te is inferior. We know we don't have the capacity to tell factually if something is true or not, so we don't try because we know we'll get it wrong. Second, I know it looks like the graphs are what we're looking at when we decide whether or not to trust someone factually, but we never even glance at the graphs or we do just to humor the person, because obviously the person believes their graph is proof. What we actually pay attention to though is everything the person is saying. The graph has nothing to do with convincing us. If we like you, we'll believe you, because we are nice people and it doesn't matter if the person is right or not, they believe they are. And what I just said will be horrifying to you. It is more important in our minds that they are listened to, than that they are right. Finally, I was extremely upset when you blamed us for what society is doing (at least that's what it looked like you were doing since the video is labeled about infps and enfps) I really don't disagree with you about how important fact checking is, but it would be worse if we actually tried it, because our brains aren't made to fact check. We wouldn't be able to trust any physical proof, because you never know what biases people have when they're writing or what percentages were left out of the graphs. We are a contributor to this problem in society, and you make it sound like we are at the head of it. Our very nature ensures that we stay in the background, so this didn't make any sense to me. I, and more importantly, my smart sister who understands how you think much more than I do, believe that you meant that esjs are the front runners to this problem and we are contributors. You are obviously very frustrated on this topic, and I also have been for a great many years. For me though, it was less about what caused the problem and more about why it's a problem. For me, there were usually three types of people out there when it comes to sources and fact checking: the vast majority who provide sources just because they're ordered to, the small loud group who demand sources and stress their importance but still don't pay attention when they aren't completely accurate, and the tiny quiet group that care about sources but more importantly care about those sources being true. What you need to understand about infps, is that we desire nothing more than to be able to find truly good sources and use correct info, but we don't have the ability to tell truth that way. That's why we need people like you and my sister out there finding the right stuff or connecting the right stuff. If we had that capacity, we would be right there with you fighting to get the stubborn observers to open their eyes, but we can't. So, as terrible as it is, you need to do it, and we'll try our best to help in other ways. I'm sorry for blowing up earlier, even though you might not have seen it. The video is somewhat poorly named.... because of it, infps believe that everything you say is pointed directly at them. We forget that to a thinker even the loosest connection is important. I really think you need to work on forgiving infps for trusting people the way they do, we can't help it. We want to help, but when we know we're so bad at te, it becomes an enormously scary process of try and make horrible mistakes and have people hate us, or don't try and have people hate us for not being involved. Perhaps, you need to be reminded, or perhaps alerted to, that infps take everything personally, instinctively, whether it's intended that way or not. If you get a small detail wrong, it can derail us, because we know ourselves, and that's all we can claim to know. We don't do graphs, we don't do sources, unless someone else is making us feel inferior for not including those. If someone is trying to convince us, and has a graph, then it's coincidental that they have a graph and we agree with them. To us the graph has literally zero percent value to us because we're focused on what they're saying, not what they're showing us. And if we like them, then we don't want to question them because we fear that will make them hate us. If later on, someone has an opposite opinion and we trust both, then we start searching around to find out which is correct, and part of that is finding majority opinion of close people, but another part is comparing the underlying values and weaknesses there as to why people believe what they believe, and we will judge it and decide according to what we believe inside. There's a lot more going on than you realize. We don't just blindly go along with whatever people say.
Your comment is great. And this TH-camr for some reason believes that "SJW"s (he never wants to expand upon who or what that is) are one of society's greatest evils. He complains about "them" often but doesn't say why they are bad? I just try to endure the occasional rant.
Yeah, it might be a personal experience thing or him getting mad because he cares about INFP's and wants to see them live up to their potential (He does praise INFPS quite a lot in some of his videos, probably a bit too much praise for me lol)
I'm an INFP and an asian girl. And WTF man??? We are not cute! You really should see girls highschool students in asia... They can be like beasts. I'm not sure which one makes me upset, metioned asian girl stereo type or using it as decription of INFPs??? Either ways, WTF dude??? And pretty much disappointed no one mentioning about this... Yay humanity.
The reason why we study mbti is to understand ourselves and others and accept the differences between us. I don't give a damn about how you see INFPs' appearance or behavior. You're just applying a sterotype with another stereotype!
I’m also an Asian INFP and I’m with you on this one! Very icky to apply an already disempowering (and at worst, just gross) stereotype of Asian girls to INFP’s being “cute”. So dehumanising and irrational
I'm an infp guy and I've been called cute quite a few times throughout my whole life. I hated being called cute because it shows that I'm weak as a male, in fact I don't even notice how I'm cute at all. But as i learn about cognitive functions i understand why it's a natural trait for infps to have, like Joseph said it's bcos of the Fi Si function stack order. It became apparent for me to accept that trait as a part of who i am.
I'm an INFP. I had the same internal issue in college for my English class. A part of me would give up on assignments sometimes because there either wasn't information or there wasn't enough information with adequate sources. I got to this point internally where it's like, "If these websites don't have sources, how am I supposed to write my paper. They are never gonna read it." Or rather, in reality, I would never write it. I never really thought through why this was a huge problem. A part of me always felt kinda dumb because of it - like some barrier there internally that I didn't really get or understand. This video really touches on why an INFP way of thinking is an internal huge problem. A story I have about INFP's keeping thoughts to their selves is me talking to a friend in middle school about her dating older guys. She was saying, "Older guys are really awesome to be around." (Something along those lines). What I was thinking in my head was, "Just because they are older, doesn't necessarily mean they are safer." In general, I just thought what she was saying was either a really bad idea or maybe I didn't like her very much. I don't really know. She and I also spent some time together in middle school and she ended up stealing from the book fair. I don't remember actively encouraging her but I recall being really uncomfortable about the entire thing and never really telling her that. All my class said about it is, "Why did you guys even steal the books when you don't read." I spent a lot of time in middle school downplaying how uncomfortable I was having to be around people I didn't understand. I might have been trying to lie to myself about how many people I would want to spend my time around. It got better after middle school. In high school, I just started to accept that I really required to be alone. It didn't quiet all the feelings I had when I procrastinated being a student but I've been working towards accepting my inner flaws. It's really scary.
Verifying causes you to get to crucified or assassinated is the lesson I’ve learned 😅 it’s often why I isolate. To continue to be in a mad world and be able to do nothing about it... sigh
Checking out the back catalogue. Wish you'd do some more content on ENFPs, CSJ - we could use a bit more of the cold lense, but I empathise with the boredom sharing a dominant function brings - ENTPs aren't particularly interesting to me, but you're super sharp even talking about ENFP. Super interesting take on NFPs and the balance needed from (what you're getting at) Ti users
I'm an INFP, and I know you get this a lot, but to stress it more, I am all about individual thought. sources and research makes me feel sick TBH. and the idea of a collective brainwashed society is my worst fear. individual thought is what makes us human. You might be focusing too much on one odd experience with an INFP who was asking you to cite your sources as a last ditch effort to invalidate your opinion because they disagreed with it. in truth it's not something we turn to often unless threatened because it is fact, and in our mind it's a wall that we don't typically expect someone to be bothered to cross in everyday conversation. (I don't mean to speak for all INFP's here, but this is how I feel we are.) Also not sure I'm down with the literal villainization of the INFP through your reference to the Bible story. That feels very unfair, especially since it's likely the basis for it isn't (at least) as broadly true as you would have us think. I'm critical of everything when I come into contact with new evidence, even if it takes me a while to loose the attachment. it's important to me to be open to revolutionary ideas to shake up what is typically beleived. In terms of verification, in my experience I need others to verify my feelings. I can't express my feelings unless I feel that the other person respects me on the same level, and is willing to make sure I'm not going crazy. I'm not enough when it comes to how I feel, I need the validation of others opinions to make sure that what I feel is natural, and I need the reactions and help of others to help me better understand my situation and to improve. (rant over)
I am sorry it feels unfair or biased. But I am not here to do the right thing, I am here to do what works, this is because I am pragmatic and not affiliative. Have you watched my lecture on "How Do INFJs Compare to INFPs?
I felt the same while watching this. There were some very real biases here that were obvious to anyone who is open minded and looking to seek more information on these two types. Body language and tone of voice alone tells me that there are preferences, and the experience of the speaker with these personality types has helped him make his claims.
Yes it is NOT. It is some misunderstanding. He needs to have some quality time with some quantity INFP friends. Most of the times he keeps taunting us. Even the sources ppl must be ISFJs who look similar to us. We are not as innocent and cute as we seem!
Still don't know whether I am an ENFP or an INFP. Anyway, the thing is, even if you had some issues with INFP's in your personal life it doesn't mean that you are allowed to vent your frustrations through what is supposed to be an informative video. In the end it has turned out as nothing more than an angry rant clearly lacking objectivity
I actually enjoy the fact that this takes a more pessimistic approach. I feel like he gives me a lot to be reflective of. You're definitely a crazy smart dude, I'm going to be watching your videos all day. And you are totally right... One hundred percent we worked best with a gun door heads. 39:53
Feels like a lot of INFP hate. You must have INFP’s that you dislike. As an INFP it’s about both facts and perception. Blaming the state of the world on INFP’s... really?
I test INFP but it's tough because I am the type to speak up when I feel the need to. I take the time to think out whether I should and go through all of the possibilities in my head... my Ne working as usual. I would say I pick my battles for the most part but I typically push myself to say what needs to be said. There have been cases in the past where I have spoken up after seeing another person being treated unfairly. Also, I find myself opening up and comforting others who I see as being shy or uncomfortable. On the other hand I can be very quiet and just observe when around an extraverted group of people. I tend to want to have experiences rather than stay home so I am quick to say yes when asked to hang out but don't like to initiate from fear of being rejected. I'm either a more extroverted INFP or a more introverted ENFP.
I am an INFP, and I think you are an NT. I have argued about many things with NTs, and I developed the source thing because I could not win against logos logic. Without the sources all I have is “I know how people work and this is right”. Which is a horrible argument to an NT. As I have matured the better, more convincing argument I can make is more personal. It is a big circle- I feel like my opinion is verified by me and my thinking and my understanding of how people work. I started with the sources because no one believed me.
Chase points out @ 5:00 that ENFP are "Triple movement", but only says INFP are more control - INFP's are actually "Triple Control", whilst both have "Informative" ONLY in their Ego's, their other "sides" are all "Direct" and they're both "Triple Affiliative" too. It's less than a year after posting, but better late than never (hopefully someone else pointed this out previously to catch peeps). :-)
(INFP) enjoyed this, but also don’t quite agree with the argument for sources. In fact, while I appreciate people who can hold onto reference points I tend to be unimpressed/bored quickly because it becomes predictable or comes off as unoriginal and boastful (maybe more impersonal than I prefer too). I enjoyed/laughed at the beliefs part. I can see how some people might want to argue everything you say, but it’s actually quite hilarious, insightful and thought-provoking (if not mostly true). The thought did come to my mind: Like - if I believe in “beliefs” that may also mean that I accept that one holds beliefs disparate from my own, validly, while their logic is be mostly irrelevant. For the most part, I just really believe that they will believe what they think is true (Lol, but maybe this is just me rationalizing it so I still don’t have to deal with the challenge when I don’t feel like it.)
Lol, you are such a roller coaster of emotions to watch.... one minute I don't like you, the next you are intriguing, followed by adorable, and repeat. I want to not watch you but you are scary accurate. INFP here and apparently only functioning well in some areas. I think you are 100% correct on needing someone to help with your delivery but your content is priceless. Thank you.
It is about what I believe, and I believe in finding the utmost truth, I don’t think peoples opinions matter, that’s a nice story to help a person cope, but without truth you can’t grow or take proper action…
Fi Hero and Parent is so apparent in the comments section lol I can understand why some are hurt by what you've said. However, one of my best friends is an ENFP and every ENFP video I have watched describes him PERFECTLY. I do not think he would agree, but as an outsider I 100% agree.
P.S. - with all that I am about to say, great video! I can relate to a lot of things you said (ENFP dating an INFP hahaha). There are also a lot of things that I thought were a little too black and white... I get that we have to generalise when we talk about the MBTI types, but this sounds like “NFPs at their worst.” While I recognise my flaws, the experience I have is a little more hopeful... and as far as Logos and Fi is concerned, the only way to satisfy Fi is to form a foundation for it on Logos. Fi knows that lies will crumble and so it seeks the truth for its security. The search doesn’t always look like cold, hard logic (haha I’m self aware enough to know that!), but it is no less intelligent and genuine, and it will produce results, although it might take a little more emotional turmoil than Ti types are comfortable with. Some more Jesus-Logos for you: “take the log out of your own eye before trying to remove the splinter from mine.” ;)
Damn nice job with the rawness in this one! Somebody has to do the job of telling things, as they are- not sugar coating stuff up. I wonder why your INFP vids are the one with highest hate comments. Something to do with Si child wanting good experience? Though, I'm guessing (not seen social engineering season yet) if you want to get a point across them - keeping them comfortable is important
INFP here. I recently lost a lot of weight from this method I found and I told a few people about it, like people living with me but to the majority of people I kept quiet until they asked me how I was losing the weight. I wasn't there to tell them before I'd rather then ask me about it. Also with films I like and such. I obviously enjoy telling people my feelings on things but I prefer when people ask me. I get that feeling you described of respect maybe.... What you said about the bad experience is so true. I really don't care because I know I can take it. Even though I also feel so insecure and sensitive I can push myself to a bad experience if I have reasons to even. Ugh that's so true. Another thing that is so true is believing a lie because it will make me feel good. That is so freaking true. I can definitely do that. Honestly these past few days I've been avoiding a lot of my work I'm supposed to be doing and have been so in my head with feelings and thoughts and your videos are inspiring me to get out of that and have confidence in myself to carry on. I do relate to the nature of me not verifying. I site sources sometimes and I just assume they are correct because they've been accepted by the majority. That is wrong. I think I've gotten better at it over the years and it's allowed me to build on my personal philosophy and thanks to this video I'm going to make it a part of my life to try and verify because I feel that's just the right thing to do for humanities sake. I think most INFPs grow in their weaknesses by believing it is the morally correct thing to do. I know that's how I've developed.
ENFP here, whatever you talk about infps though I somewhat agree with you I feel I can't send it to any of my infp friends because they'll probably think of insulting them, what a lot of people would see is a guy in a black shirt and a white board yelling at them
You were a big help..... For me now for the future. Have been studying these MBTI personality types and wouldn’t be here without you... Thank you C.S Joseph. Wish I could do more.... ExFP or INxP still trying to figure it out. As I’m currently watching and noticing maybe holding this comment... and probably should stop now before I Start rambling. Lol.
Another INFP here-I am actually quite cynical when it comes to what I read or hear. Many will consider me closed-minded or naive, but as a Christian, my ultimate source if the Bible. If something new comes along, I compare it to Logos, the Word. This satisfies me as an INFP.
I don’t know if the teachers were infps or not, but when I questioned the referencing thing with ideas I had come up with, I was told variously that… I was not smart enough to be using my own ideas, or, I was not an authority and therefore how could I base a theory on an unfounded idea? or, If I wanted to do this I should first go back and test the first idea instead of using an unproven idea to support another. I thought about this and came to the conclusion that instead of them having a lack of original thought or indeed believing original thought even existed, (and I have to admit that was my initial reaction), that this was literally the scientific process at work. I now think if we used empirical scientific process it is probably safer than purely thought experiments because there is evidential proof and it stops decades of scientific thought wandering off down paths that could easily end up being dead ends.
Im an INFP and Im a philosophy major i love logic. I dont follow the crowd AT ALL. I always think about whether something is objectively true or not so your wrong. I dont care about sources more than whats said, that sounds wayyy more like an ISTJ. Just because someone is emotional doesnt mean that they cant think deeply. You can have both. Also a lot of great thinkers were INFPs.
@@socratesandstorybooks1109 are you enneagram 4? I’m a subconscious focused ISTP E4 and I am more emotional, dramatic, and romantic that the average ISTP. If you have inferior Fe then maybe you are also subconscious focused?
Can you explain what you mean by socially capable and people oriented? Because I find the vast majority of social interactions to be annoying. I am people oriented in the sense that I am obsessed with understanding people (including myself), as well as understanding the human condition. I find humans annoying and intriguing at the same time if that makes sense..? I am very socially awkward and tend to drift away when I am around a bunch of people engaged in small talk.
Ti parent coming, my dude. Read Matthew 15. He used the standard for Logos against the rationale of the Pharisees. They sacrificed the Scriptures (OT) for tradition and taught others to do so. Jesus is all about Truth, and Paul was on par with that Truth. He tore down just as much if not more the traditions of the Pharisees by bringing the Logos. He knew the standard before correcting. Trust but verify. Great video! Your videos are helping educate me on so much concerning nature vs nurture. So much truth!
Hi, I'm an "older" INFP. We really believe in original ideas. We understand that, if you want to write a research paper and express an idea that is not your own, then according to society's protocols, you will need to identify your source so that you don't commit PLAGIARISM. BUT, you can certainly insert your original ideas. You just have to make it clear which ideas are your own and which you got from someone else. AND...I don't know where Jesus says in the scriptures that there is no salvation in the scriptures. It's actually that ALL the scriptures work together to POINT TO HIM as the source of salvation, which God was going to send to the earth to redeem mankind. So, technically, the salvation in the scriptures only exists within the understanding that they are invoking and referring to a HIGHER Spirit - the Spirit of Jesus Christ. The LOGOS (data, logic) of the Word, is pointing to the RHEMA (Spirit of Truth).
great video, I feel like one of the reasons why people get butthurt by what you say about their types is not because of what you're saying but the voice tone you're using to address such flaws and criticisms regarding their types, people will listen to you more if you can be nicer with your tone of voice and instead of getting defensive they will see the value in what you're saying more so and appreciate you more for your content.
I really like your videos you have taught me things no one else teaches :) enfp on the internet theres so much stuff but not alot of the hard to deal with things. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places? But thankyou ! Enfp here watching all your play list :)
randomaccount39 I'd say ESFP. I often contemplated this myself because I'm an ENFP myself, and I see a lot of similarities between us too as far as, being people centered goes. I see the big difference in how Naruto learns, which majority of the time is through raw experience. Since the beginning he's always wanted to be the greatest ninja there is (The Hokage) that delves into what I believe to be more of an Ni inferior rather than a Ne hero. So if it's Ni inferior this is where his aspirations lie ( him wanting to be Hokage since the beginning), as well as where his fears like as well (Getting Sasuke back [Ni inferior], failing over and over trying to find many different ways to get him back by any and all means [Ne demon]). The you get into his worries which would be the unconscious nemisis function Si, so he, very much so worries To put this into perspective, why does he want to be Hokage so bad... Because as he went on in life from the beginning people forced him in experiences of treating him like shit.(Se) Like an outcast. So he pretty much said, fuck all that, fuck all y'all, I'm gonna do my own thing (fi+te). Think about how he learned pretty much every single jutsu he's learned... Shit the classic shadow clone jutsu is a perfect example.... So his environment as a child forced him to be condition to learn things the hard way which is through experience... Keep in mind that the ENFP type is one of the most introverted of all extroverted types, and the hero function Ne is an abstract observer function. It uses the imagination externally all the time to make mental connections to see how things work or more so how people work since we're dealing with a people centered type. I can see someone like Hinata being more of an ENFP type... Now it's tricky because Naruto does have a lot of ENFP qualities... Scattered brain like, being a champion for someone else's cause, not really considering the implications of how things are exactly going to turn out for himself, but given the points o mentioned above... Learn through experience (Se) trumps learning through the observation of experiences(Ne)...and his will power(Ni) trumps the usage of his metaphysical process (Ne; due to him having shadow clones, and learning through experience through his clones slightly gives him an exception, but it's not that big of one)... If anything I can see him possibly being an INTJ as well. Due to how those observer functions play out, but ESFP just speak more to me...
I think Japan is very much about predictable structures and social interactions- very comfortable for INFPs than figuring out whatever be yourself means ^^
I am pretty sure I am an infp, but it's weird. I have always been outspoken. My problem growing up, has been that I used to say things to people's face. I still do that although I have learnt to b a little subtle about it. But whenever I see someone screwing up or doing something wrong, I call them out almost immediately. I have been called domineering and aggressive multiple times by more sensitive people. I never really thought something was wrong with me though. I felt like I needed to say it. They needed to hear it. I also appeared to be critical to some people. When they kept on pointing it out, I tried to work on it. And as I said, I have become a little more subtle😅. I wonder if infps are like this from time to time, although I have been like this most of my life
The sourse thing... with the infp teaching style is not necessarily a group thinking thing... sometime it does , but it is still like that even when it logic base, becouse it comes from Si. but not like every si, the infp Si is an archives that store insane iNtuition paterns, based on tons of data combine together, and it is a responsible Ni intuition.... there is no other type but inp's that have the ability of doing responsble intuition conclusions. We inp just freak out of how everybody else do not have the ability to separete between what is their intuition and what is others. So many of the damage couse by the infp teaching is becouse no one aware to the exact cognitive differences between then and the other. Also infp have the point of view says that "logicly, there is a chance that all of my conclusions may turt out to be coplitely worng and subjactive , becouse of a reason that right now is out of my poin of view, so if sombody else is describe the same big picture philosofy conclotion as my, /if many other people feeling the same (all of them is store about one reference, "the archetype" in the infp mind) so it kik the as* to the main feer of the infp that they may be so completely wong, And we so afraid to talk so we propeble will not open our mouth without To confront the argument first, even when these argument is just in our mind, so the teacher is just passing his fears and lack of confidence to the students so they have insecure in thien logic too, and everybody feel safer to relay on the group thing. This is way isfj is suffering so much becouse they have a insecure in their moral so they rather lay on group ethic, combine with the norm of "doubt your logos becouse u may be the only one who thinking this way so it *there is a posibilty* that u totaly worng" is freak the hel out tge isfj and left them without the abillity to trust themself..... couse the infp makes himself a personal example, but they not... and the infp like the intp have the Endless ability to doubt and reassessing everthing, from the very first roots...so we share out conclution to other so they can chaked it out and see if it right but no one is thinking like us so it comes out like over share, destroy the outcome massage... I got little Scattered here but i do have a strong point that all other infp i met is very identify with
btw did you maybe see Monty Phytons "Nudge Nudge, Wink, wink" sketch, imo you can say it shows an example of the Informative Initiating Movement interaction style.
my ENTJ mom gives me reality checks (aka facts that make my arguments crumble like dried plants) everytime I go off in my "should-be-could-be-I want it to be" rants so thank god I'm not a very ignorant infp I think infp could handle the truth, they are more inclined to believe in others intentions which is too vague to be called truth, they like "good stuff" which makes them not like the opposite by default and if that's the truth then so be it, but if in the infp life "good stuff" happen and they associate truths with those "good stuff" (I'm putting words too loosely but meh) they WILL surely value the truth much more than anything. I'm speaking from experience since I believe I don't have a problem with logic (recieving it. not making it. in no way would I be able to) and that made me feel alienized in EVERY infp video to the point that I typed myself as intp which... just nope. Back to our talk, si and Fi-Te are more relied on each other than you think, memory are also perceptions, and you can learn to appreciate truths more than dreams. INFP just don't know how to build logic so we go the round-about way... think, feel, doubt, ask, see it, don't believe it, denial, crisis, oh wait that's true, believe it, don't tell anyone because you'll be judged as a hypocrite, develope complexe about that sort of thinking, eventually don't become truth-oriented because you didn't practice, feel attacked by *insert anyone talking about infp+logic* , oh no one to ACTUALLY help out in this crisis, ignore forever because it was definitely a bad experiece that draged for too long to our Fi liking and judgement, forget that this happened (selective memory checks), think, feel, that's something you can do, be proud. it's .... very unconventional I have to say, especialy the parts where you realize you're becoming an enemy to yourself by critisizing too much , that hurts because initially not a lot of people appreciate our thoughts and ideas (nevermind liking them...) so having even your own inner self judging you feel like the world is against you but if someone cocky and cheeky enough to push the truth into our minds telling us the good side of it to make us believe it, then reassures us that it takes a bit to take in so THAT detail which is killer detail makes us feel fine, then tells us the bad parts for us to develop a better judgement, then infps would warm up to the idea of logic then eventually that person can tell the truth good and bad simultanuously and we'd be fine but that's a lot of work to other people, so far, only mom and C.S joseph were able to properly do it so I don't make this a sollution... more like a noob fix
No matter at college, home or workplace, my closest friend or family members are mostly ENFP and I found that INFP are always the one that I feel hard to connect with. Sorry INFP. I'm ENTP btw.
[INFP] I still don't know how Ti Demon works, and when it kicks in and what the normal responses would be but is it possible to be developed because of the influence of those who raised you? My cousin is an ENFP and her dad is an ENTP. He's a great manipulator, a cynical person - he likes playing mindtricks, testing truths, that most of the time catch people off guard. He's quite intentional to teach me and her daughter his ways so we won't be tricked lol and it sure as heck feel like it rubbed off on me. Cause while I have the optimism and give others benefit of the doubt outwardly, I am hardly disillusioned to what I want to believe in that I even investigate things on my own even if I know it could get hurtful to know the truth. Now that I read it, it sounds more like an ENFP with a Ti Trickster. (I'm a little unsure whether I am ENFP or INFP tbh) anyway, my cousin is like that too. She knows and believe something but would go to lengths to find out the truth before she fully make up her mind, even if it means scratching out what she first believed in.
Best thing as an infp is stop thinking just do. Speak up when you don't want too as thats probably when you should. And don't care what ppl think because in the end it don't matter. 😊 best thing for an individual any individual to grow is take on other traits or ways of doing things not usually you but in that instance is needed ie im not comfortable with doing something on the fly, like i will panic if we haven't thought of this and that. I had to learn to drive a small truck and help my motherinlaw move house. I didn't want too because hey truck but a few mistakes along the way, anxiety and all i did it, and still she is thankful i did that for her. Step out the norm of what it is to be an infp and you will shock yourself. 😊😊
I always get either INfJ, INFP and ENFP as results. It's safe to say I'm not an INFJ. I am almost sure I use Fi and Ne the most often. . The hardest part was to see if I'm an ENFP or an INFP, since the functions are just in different order. I lean towards INFP, since it just matches me perfectly. I learned a lot about myself by reading about INFPs. So, I hope it gives me enough insights to really help me see if I'm an INFP or an ENFP.
I test as infp but I would say something. Where are you going? I think this is our exit? Why are you driving like this? I think if I don’t know the person well, I might be quiet but If I want to get there, I’m going to speak up.
Don't overwork yourself, I am worried.
When you said "I'm saying you could be a liar and you don't even know you're lying" my first thought was "You _can't_ lie if you don't know you ARE lying because to you is truth" and it made me realize I am a NFP after all. Thank you, I had my doubts.
well said
To me, a lie is purposeful, I don’t believe you can be lying if you think you are speaking truth… you can be wrong or misinformed but that’s not the intentional dispensing of bad info…
As he said, the truth is irrelevant to an NFP unless it's external, and collectively observable
"ENFPs work the best with a gun to their head" Your sarcasm is just irreplaceable.😂🥂
BUT WHERE IS THE LIE 😭😭😭
I'm sensing some reactivity toward INFP's and more focus on their less mature traits.
you are not wrong, the last INFP lecture I did was pretty positive so in order to be even handed, I needed to focus on some of the lesser traits because I almost ignored them previously.
Needs balance
This isn't balance, this pure unadulterated hate. And it's off. Because we don't care about sources or graphs. We judge based on what people believe and why they believe it. If we ask for a source then we're not learning why they believe it. We're just learning where they got their info, that's not the same thing. I have been repulsed by this trait seen all over society, but it can't be from infps because as he said. WE STAY IN THE SHADOWS, WHERE NO ONE IS AFFECTED BY US. Tjs are the ones who ask for sources because they care about accurate facts. Fps want to know why people believe it and they prefer it when it comes straight from the person, no outside information. You need to stop this assumption about infps because it's wrong. And I will not take it. Tell the truth or shut up!
@@feigekatarina5745 Oh my god, you're so right!
Joe P yes, it took showing the video to my sister to understand a few of the things he was saying. I know it's easy for people to get the wrong impressions of us, but that's just what it is, an impression. I'm glad he said it, if he's also willing to see the truth. It doesn't matter how I feel about what he said, what matters is if it's true or not. And in his case a few things were untrue, like the graph. After hearing a blatant lie about us, it's hard to switch back over and listen for any further truths. I know it wasn't supposed to be taken personally, and through my sisters help, I've realized that he meant we are a contributing factor to this problem, but he wasn't blaming us solely, or even as the leaders. We do want to know what people think, but it doesn't mean we just blindly trust what people say. We trust our small group for info, and even if we nod with them, all throughout the following years, we're comparing that to what we believe and what others believe. He made it sound like we're sheep that have no ability of being rational or finding the truth, and that's not true either. All this, he possibly could have found out just by talking to us about our processes, but instead, apparently, he just watched an interaction, and drew several false ideas. Yes, I do take it seriously, because it's our reputation, and he should be careful to speak true, instead of focusing on his opinion of what we are. It's not about him offending me, it's about the fact that he made several easily misinterpreted statements. And all of the hatred that he seemed to have for infps, is also severely misdirected because I agreed with everything that made him mad, and I have in the past, and I still will in the future! I'm so tired of every thinker thinking we're stupid! And I'm so tired of every observer thinking we're cute. Seriously, rainbows? Is there no one who can just see us as we are? Not perfect, not cute, not stupid, but kind, patient, dedicated, unlimited to certain perspectives, able to see light and darkness and being effected by both, hopeful for a better world, and unconvinced that people would ever be willing to try for one. I'd almost wish that everybody would just stop talking about infps, because if we're lucky, they'll get it right, and if they're even slightly wrong, then they're perpetuating lies about what we are. I came here wanting the truth, the good and the ugly bad, but instead, I still got a persons somewhat correct assumption of what we are, including personal biases. I'm sorry to any personality out there who hates us, because they think we're gullible, or that we don't speak up when we should, or that we too hesitant when we stay quiet, or to brazen when we do speak up, there is no working with people, because everyone in the entire world wants us to be something we're not! (I'm sorry for the rant.)
Really enjoyed this. Found myself nodding my head in several places. As a mature INFP, I sometimes find myself disagreeing with certain things in some of the INFP analysis in some of your videos. Then I stop, cast my mind back to when I was younger and realize, wow, I spent a lot of my twenties (or even into my thirties)doing that or behaving that way. I've grown quite cynical in certain areas to protect myself from my own gullibility and inability to see through to the truth. I need a lot of time sometimes to get the truth.
The only thing that I have really difficult time with is the 'cite your sources'. Not disagreeing with you, really, but just recognizing that that is not a huge deal in my life. Never has been. I'm always more interested in the idea, even when it makes me really uncomfortable (and this often happens). But new ideas, even if they're just new to me, are some of my favorite things.
Although, I have to tell you, I'd definitely speak up and tell you were going the wrong direction. The conflicted days are gone for me. I'd be more interested in getting where we're going than being deterred God only knows where. What you said made perfect sense, I"m just glad I've overcome that crap.
As for power? I think it is most the dangerous drug known to mankind. I dislike using it, I dislike people trying to gain it over me. I completely agree with your take on society. I fear we've lost the ability to think for ourselves. I really treasure my ISTP friend for their logic and ability to cut through the BS. I need more folks like that in my life.
Thank you for your generosity in sharing your knowledge. Sometimes, I think, SO.MANY.WORDS. But after this comment, I have no room to talk. And you always have a point to make. I appreciate it.
ENFP-Bubbly but total wrecked
INFP-Noble but sardonic
Talking about INFPs not saying things because they fear they'll be seen as a bother, I can't even repeat what I'm saying when people don't hear me well and answer other things because I feel they'll be ashamed of it
Nothing makes me feel more like a man than being compared to a little Asian girl.
kawai
Just buy a gun, a huge pickup truck, or a gunrack for your big truck to compensate. You're welcome.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079 then decorate it with flowers
OMG, I was laughing my ass off while listening to that story about the INFP just sitting in silence in the car as you went the wrong way, ruining the deal. It's SO TRUE, almost like a comedy of errors! My girlfriend is an INFP and she totally does this. It's not funny while it's happening. It's frustrating as hell but funny in hindsight.
Yeah that part is true. But we r also living in our richer inner world and we care less about immediate outer world.
I'm INFP and I've done this kind of thing.
InFP here and guilty of doing this!
whats your type?
Whenever I try to tell someone they're doing something wrong, they never believe me, so I've resorted to just silently judging and hoping it turns out okay anyway lol. Absolutely not the best solution, am working on better ways of communicating so that no one has any reason to doubt my instructions.
ENFP here. Insanely accurate and insightful lecture. Especially relate to the "worthiness" aspect. Also, feeling quite validated in my bibliophilia, which is awesome. Thanks!
Glad to hear it. NFPs are always the hardest for me to lecture on.
I would not have thought that. You pretty much nailed it. Even with the flu - impressive.
In my personal experience one of the best things we INFPs can do is to learn to connect our thoughts to words and coherent sentences and increase our vocabulary. Then we have an arsenal of ways to say things and can more easily find the confidence to speak our minds. Like in that car if I didn't want to sound bossy I would go all informative behind the scenes-mode and hint a question of whether the driver knows the way. We need to practice talking, interacting and sharing our thoughts while simultaneously reading and learning stuff. INFPs tend to be talented with language but we should develop our verbal use as well as the writing. The best way is to have discussions about topics you're interested in and then expand into other areas, finding connections and more possibilities. That builds our inner world, develops our philosophies and in time makes us capable of just about anything.
Marten W yes to this !
I was just thinking about this earlier today
Hmmm I ( supposedly INFP) don't at all relate to believing everything I see on CNN or some graph. I am the exact opposite. I generally am not very trusting towards things like that and definitely verify a lot.
Agree. Iam very cautious compared to the herd mindset of most ppl. It actually takes alot to convince me over anything but again not with source.
Same here
Same. Definitely NOT herd mentality here!
This actually makes more sense because you have pessimistic te. Not only is it pessimistic, but it's the inferior, so your naturally afraid of what other people think. The inferior is our source of fear and insecurity. Enfps would be much more likely to believe everything they see and maybe because of faulty logic. Ti trickster really wants to verify things, but it's just not the best at it sometimes. Infps have ti demon though, so they don't really trust their logic at all and don't want to. They will see what a lot of other people think in order to decide what to believe. Just because infps don't want to verify things themselves using their own logic, doesn't nessesarily mean they will believe everything.
@@SantanaBanana47 'Love Who' did an amazing accurate video on Infp. Their thinking comes from a deep place almost non material in a sense. They have to value and do look deep into logic to validate their inner system and upgrade it. It's just feelings comes first then they match it with the rest of the world which makes sense why they are reserved. They are aware about possibly being wrong. Also they have a drive of individuality and authenticity so Idk what video meant about infp being a problem to causing society to become stagnant. It seems to me Infps would be the ones who bring original ideas imo
INFP: Where r the ENFP's in this comment section omg😂😂😂
Right here :D
This man went on a ten minute rant about how it was someone else’s fault he didn’t set google maps up
He’s a bit mental
gotta love him, i enjoy the rants 🤷🏽♂️
Ne hero is seeing many possible directions and outcomes out of one experience/one idea.
I'm guessing his emotions are linked to his Ne like that.
Either that or the hidden power of simply having a bad day i'm guessing.
@@YEDxFILMS Some of his videos are real hippie man. I remember saying something along the lines of "if we hard shift into our superego we literally die!" which caught me hella off-guard.
Yup
More likely your INFP friend didnt even realise you're going the wrong way. Se trickster 😭 me (infp) and my infp best friend get lost constantly cos neither of us pay attention to where we are going
as intp with se trixster it more like we can realise that we going the wrong way but it just that we understand it to late like lmao
You should try being Se inferior (INTJ). As soon as the sun goes down, if I can't see the lights on the hills, I get lost. In my own medium sized city of 500 000, I've spent 45yrs living in. If I was a missile and you shot me at a plane, as soon as I turned upside down; I would lose the sky, and smack into a school bus.
@@rocketassistedgoat1079Love that for you/j
It's so hard to tell people things because the moment I gain the courage to do so they argue with me. Tell me I'm controlling. Say my intentions are impure. Then when I stay quiet I'm lectured for being apathetic and uncaring.
Ne inferior people do this to me all the time.
Emily's Cat I know, right? I feel you. Dump their asses. Who needs people like that in our lives? lol
Definitely an NFP here, but I was split between the E & I. This helped clarify it. I think we ENFPs value our downtime to recharge, so it’s easy to think of yourself as an introvert. But only for an hour or so. (And I would have quickly said, “Dude, you’re going the wrong way.”) Thanks for diving deep!
I'm an ENFP and have no qualms about being a backseat driver, especially while riding shotgun and navigating.
Having inferior "Te" Is painful for me. I know I should speak up. I see others do it all the time. It physically and psychologically pains me to get on to others or steer others, especially if they are not my child or spouse. I do, however have social anxiety and panic disorder.. So I'm sure those do not help. I could relate to your friend in the car that made you miss the turn for your meeting. I'm sure they felt so horrible. I don't know if I'm am Infp or Isfp but I do know that I have an inferior Te. ☕ cheers to all my other inferior Te users. ☕
I am willing to bet the Infp guy actually didn't notice that you were going the wrong way due to Se blindspot at that moment and thought it was too late when he did realize and thought "I should have warned him earlier, if I do it now it's going to be awkward"
True.. That's what I'd think too🤣
Hope you and your family feel better. Thank you for pushing through it to make this video. I would’ve been in bed!
Yes I am in bed now lol
This lecture reminds me of the quote, “Authority becoming truth as opposed to truth being the authority“
I’m an INFP attempting to dispel this state of mass insanity to which society has fallen prey.
I can’t agree that I uphold source above content since I’m aware that sources have become corrupt- a strategy often used in totalitarian regimes.
As an INFP, I use intuition to decide whats “true” I guess. Hahah.
Even me.
My SI doesn’t remember tasks. It remembers feelings. I’ll forget every practical task unless it’s repeated over and over but I’ll remember almost every feeling and deep conversation. I’ll remember what people tell me about themselves but I’ll forget the task I was shown almost immediately. Then again, I have a poor working memory with my ADHD.
You're are absolutely fascinating to me. You're so absolute and consistent in your opinions that it's hard not to watch with a feeling of trust. Keep doing what you're doing!
I agree....very consistent. He knows his shit.
Hey, ENFP here, believe me :-), (at least some) INFP Enneagram 6 tend to question nearly everything all the time, especially authority :-). Thank you for your videos, anyway.
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I'm an ENFP ,7w6 and I question everything..in me....I trust the others a way too much....I need Ti user to tell me what to think....
ENFP 6w7 and thrice idem for me🤓
Hi🙋🏻♀️! I want to thank you tremendously for helping me as an INFP understand my weaknesses even though I saw ppl calling you mean and harsh even a jerk and to be honest i felt that way too from the first time I listened to you (sorry😬) but I decided to ignore those feelings and keep listening instead with an open mind to figure out what is it exactly that you’re trying to convey? I have to tell you that I’m literally crying right now listening to this because I finally understood why you come off this way, and I LOVE and RESPECT you for it. I now understand that your harsh and mean (even sometimes as*holish) words are actually DRY SINCERITY to help us become better ppl. I will forever be grateful to you for it. Plz keep the burning wisdom coming, we desperately need it🔥❤️👍.
Edit: There’s one more thing i want to add. You listed the ENTP in the intellectual temperament but MAN the idealism is strong with you😄. The ideas you convey are so idealistic they make ME (yeah an INFP) feel like the realistic one 😆 but actually i like that about you because it’s motivational which is something I used to think that I’m immune to. I’m 30 years old and my whole life no one has ever been able to motivate me to do something unless it came from within me already. However i was wrong because you got this Ni critic feeling quadruple energized lol to become the most idealistic version of herself which scares me to be honest lol. I guess the reason I decided to listen to you initially was because I could feel the sincerity coming from you but i couldn’t pinpoint/define what it was accurately in the beginning (because I’m not used to sincerity feeling so dry) until now when it just hit me and I started crying because I judged you wrongly and I’m genuinely sorry for that. like I said you yourself seem to be concerned about the future of our race and I might be wrong but i can also feel that you want to contribute to bringing that change we need by teaching INFPs and the other 15 types what our duties are in order to get our a*ses off to work. So again thank you tremendously for that❤️.
lol as an infp, I have also idly sat by while someone drove in the wrong direction. when questioned, I told them I thought they must have gotten different information to me and I believed they knew where they were going because they were the driver and didn't question the direction
ENFP here. Some of this resonated with me....but something that is continually frustrating to me is the portrayal of ENFP's as "salesmen" or being a walking "brand". People concerned with selling an idea or their "brand" are often more concerned w:ith the sale than they are their own integral authentic compass. Authenticity is EVERYTHING to ENFP's. If that resonates with someone else, great. If it doesn't, that's ok too. But we aren't projecting authenticity to try to sell something. We just are authentic. Period. I'm whimsical and wizardly AF, but that doesn't mean I'm looking for validation for it. Validation does sometimes happen as a by-product....but a healthy ENFP doesn't seek attention. We just create a world, and communicate that world, so that attention seems to follow us. Or not. Either way, though......we're fine. :-)
Authenticity is not everything to ENFPs, that is a misnomer. ENFPs prefer to "look authentic" and often times do not even realize it. INFJs are far more authentic. If you do not resonate with this at all, have you looked at INFJ? Healthy ENFPs seek attention all the time, they want to be wanted.
@@CSJoseph - No - I consistently test as an ENFP and I know quite a lot about INFJ's - I've dated 2 of them and know of the vast complexity - good and bad - in that very rare type. In all honesty I've never heard anyone explain an ENFP as being, basically, smarmy and only authentic as some sort of front to get attention. There are many publications describing ENFP's who note that we value highly authenticity in ourselves and in our relationships. We can "feel" when someone is trying to sell us something and bristle when it doesn't feel authentic. To characterize us as a walking "brand" is highly one dimensional and and doesn't even remotely delve into the nuances that make up our love of connecting with others. Being liked is often a natural by-product of our authentic connections. But a healthy ENFP isn't striving to be liked. It's not where our central passion lies. We have PLENTY of challenges being an ENFP (tough time finishing projects, many projects going on at once can make us scattered if we don't work at it), but we are pretty allergic to inauthenticity. It's a repellent for me.
that's the most calm lecture I've seen here til now
ENFP "What you believe can be your reality if you want ... I try to make the world a better place ... I hate people's negative energy." INFP "I'm a good person who helps everyone get along ... I don't know why he was hating on me ... I just wasn't getting good vibes from him."
INFP not scared that something bad will happen. INFP thinks that you took the wheel and if you not ask help it's your destiny to make some mistakes unless you wish to ask opinions from others. INFP will tell you 100% that you are doing mistake if you ask.
INFP here. I laughed about the going the wrong direction story. There have been plenty of times this sort of thing happens around me because I didn't speak up. Generally, I just think other people have a better idea about how to do things in the physical world and I'm guilty of relying on others too much to handle these sorts of things (clumsiness in the physical world doesn't help our confidence). There's a higher likely-hood of it happening in high pressure situations. I'm terrible at making decisions quickly and feel like I need more information to go on other than just my instinct to show other people. You see, I don't even trust my own intuition a lot of the time because so often I'm asked why I think it's right and I don't have the words to explain in the moment. I'm always second guessing myself. So that instance of your INFP co-worker not telling you you were going the wrong way may have just been a moment of doubt for them. They probably thought you had information that they didn't. I know if I was put in that situation I would have acted similarly. However, if I knew for sure that we were going the wrong way I personally would have spoken up.
This describes it so perfectly!! 100% relate on the guilt of relying on others too much on doing things in the physical world lol. I always feel like I simply don’t have enough information when (almost always) I do! And expressing it in the moment would have actually been beneficial.
This is going to be a bit long, but I really like your videos so I thought to share my experience as an INFP, when it comes to requiring sources.
I am almost 25, female.
I've developed Te so much throughout the years that me and my INTP brother are almost identical in how we rationalize and analyze things.
I did this because I saw that every argument in my family was done solely based on feelings and logic didn't matter. No one would claim responsibility for their actions because tears and hurt feelings were more valid than them admitting wrongdoing. Things would blow up because feelings would get hurt and in an attempt to avoid that, I'd in turn force myself to have reason, logic and evidence behind my statements rather than blowing it out of proportion because of how it made me feel.
That's why I resonate so much with my INTP brother. When he and I discuss, it's all in regards to facts rather than how it makes us feel emotionally. We agree on almost everything because of this. It's why my close ENFP friend was surprised I was an INFP because, I quote "You are not very emotional, you are quite rational actually".
I love analyzing statistics and going deep into the "why" of statistics, not just accepting them as fact without understanding what is the cause behind such a statistic. Those same statistics turned me away from feminism, after seeing what was actually going on rather than what the media, women and men around me were portraying by using anecdotal evidence and never looking at the other side of things.
That causes a lot of trouble with everyone else who completely dismisses statistics as being unreliable, solely because they never bothered to verify anything and because they cannot emotionally accept it. An example being statistics that point to a majority of criminals growing up in fatherless homes. Most people's response to me when I have said that is "How dare you judge women?", I am not joking.
So yes, I tend to require sources or proof when someone makes a statement that I either think is wrong or that I know is wrong. But, I do this to understand why they see things that way, rather than in an attempt to prove them wrong, which is what my INTP brother does, on the other hand.
I wish people would return the favor rather than shutting me down with arguments such as "Well, this is my opinion" "You are sexist for saying that" "Statistics lie" and so on, without a shred of evidence or at least an explanation other than their feelings.
Diora Mem wow very well said! This is an excellent comment!
yeah we even explore those sources. We dive the deepest.
Thank you for doing this while you weren’t feeling good.
You did a hard word on this video it's very long but it's worth it thank for your efforts i appreciate it and i hope you to get better soon
As an Infp, there are some limiting capacties especially if I'm in my depressive state. It puts a damper on things. My dream world can be out of this world. I can see like a vivid paradise in my mind. I will throw in there that I'm type 5 so I can channel my analytical side. I can be like a hermit. I've told someone that wanted me to join in that I'm not super talkative, but I think it's because I have to be warmed up. I can pick up on their disgust. I withdraw back into my inner thoughts.
Cant finish thoughts in their head and musing without thought - that is so interesting and accurate. Although I am INFP not ENFP, but I resonated with that. I need my INFJ partner to discuss things through to reach a conclusion, otherwise I am unable to really finish thoughts in my head, unless I spend a lot of active thinking time on it, which I don't really like doing. So instead I feel it, try to convey it to my partner with fuzzy words who instantly gets it and puts it into words.
INFP here; if I'm in a car with someone and they start going the wrong way and I notice, that fucker's gonna get told straight up lol. I feel I can be too assertive with things like this sometimes and either piss people off or frighten them because I'm usually quite reserved. Great video though; I really appreciate the depth you go into and the articulation you are able to deliver it with. Get well soon.
Much appreciated sir.
C.S Joker: “We live in a society”
A little over a year ago my entire world literally came crashing down after asking myself a simple question "is this really true?" I realized that I never took the time to critically think about the principles I lived by and wholeheartedly believed in. It was like hitting the restart button on my life (I like your restart button metaphor). I had to get away from everyone I was close to and even cut ties in order to rebuild my life from scratch. My biggest fear was worrying about what others would think of me if I expressed my doubts and reasoning. Also, I valued the few close friendships I had in my previous life and I was caught in between pretending everything is ok and going to pursue the truth. Letting go of that fear gave me a lot of strength. I realized that it's better to be alone than delusional with company. I wonder if this happens to others? Do people out of nowhere get insight that forces them out of their comfort zone? -infp
Yes, it also happened to me. My world crashing down 5 years ago and after that I was like shutting down. Then I realized I couldn't let this anymore, so 2 years ago I restarted my life. I force myself to go out of my comfort zone. I left everything to start over. Now everything is okay but I am too comfortable with my new zone.
Infj here , goddamn i sure appreciate the giving it to me straight approach man, thanks for that
When you said salesman, I thought of Michael Scott from The Office. Definitely an ENFP.
YES!!! I am so talking about that in my next ENFP lecture. Good point.
Can a poor ENFP motivate others?
I am a teacher and I think I'm great at motivating students ,but I don't own an expensive house or a car....What other things can ENFPs use as a brand ? / maybe something spiritual or a lifestyle ?
I like to stand out from the crowd, that's true.
yes they can
ENFP here, and I seem to be being a brand whenever I say esoteric things drawing from my library of alexandria
Or you know... You simply aren't an ENFP?
INFP here. I guess when it comes to the spectrum I am a more assertive INFP. I'd rather be correct and point out false information than watch people base thought or waste time on something erroneous. Granted, I will leave the situation or switch the subject after setting things straight because I don't want the attention on me, and I'd like to avoid any feelings from others that they are inferior because they believed something that isn't true. I just don't want the group to be misguided or carry that false information forward. Although, if it's someone who I don't really like or have a prior image of them being ignorant or not having adequate respect for my introverted tendencies, I may just sneakily let them believe false information and leave them to find out the truth at a later, unexpected time. Which, admitting this, makes me feel slightly devious XD
Okay, I have calmed down a little bit, showed most of this video to my intj sister, who has helped me see what you're trying to say. First off, infps don't just trust anyone for information, they trust their small group of trusted people. And yes, the info gotten there is sometimes wrong and never checked, but it's because our te is inferior. We know we don't have the capacity to tell factually if something is true or not, so we don't try because we know we'll get it wrong. Second, I know it looks like the graphs are what we're looking at when we decide whether or not to trust someone factually, but we never even glance at the graphs or we do just to humor the person, because obviously the person believes their graph is proof. What we actually pay attention to though is everything the person is saying. The graph has nothing to do with convincing us. If we like you, we'll believe you, because we are nice people and it doesn't matter if the person is right or not, they believe they are. And what I just said will be horrifying to you. It is more important in our minds that they are listened to, than that they are right. Finally, I was extremely upset when you blamed us for what society is doing (at least that's what it looked like you were doing since the video is labeled about infps and enfps) I really don't disagree with you about how important fact checking is, but it would be worse if we actually tried it, because our brains aren't made to fact check. We wouldn't be able to trust any physical proof, because you never know what biases people have when they're writing or what percentages were left out of the graphs. We are a contributor to this problem in society, and you make it sound like we are at the head of it. Our very nature ensures that we stay in the background, so this didn't make any sense to me. I, and more importantly, my smart sister who understands how you think much more than I do, believe that you meant that esjs are the front runners to this problem and we are contributors. You are obviously very frustrated on this topic, and I also have been for a great many years. For me though, it was less about what caused the problem and more about why it's a problem. For me, there were usually three types of people out there when it comes to sources and fact checking: the vast majority who provide sources just because they're ordered to, the small loud group who demand sources and stress their importance but still don't pay attention when they aren't completely accurate, and the tiny quiet group that care about sources but more importantly care about those sources being true. What you need to understand about infps, is that we desire nothing more than to be able to find truly good sources and use correct info, but we don't have the ability to tell truth that way. That's why we need people like you and my sister out there finding the right stuff or connecting the right stuff. If we had that capacity, we would be right there with you fighting to get the stubborn observers to open their eyes, but we can't. So, as terrible as it is, you need to do it, and we'll try our best to help in other ways. I'm sorry for blowing up earlier, even though you might not have seen it. The video is somewhat poorly named.... because of it, infps believe that everything you say is pointed directly at them. We forget that to a thinker even the loosest connection is important. I really think you need to work on forgiving infps for trusting people the way they do, we can't help it. We want to help, but when we know we're so bad at te, it becomes an enormously scary process of try and make horrible mistakes and have people hate us, or don't try and have people hate us for not being involved. Perhaps, you need to be reminded, or perhaps alerted to, that infps take everything personally, instinctively, whether it's intended that way or not. If you get a small detail wrong, it can derail us, because we know ourselves, and that's all we can claim to know. We don't do graphs, we don't do sources, unless someone else is making us feel inferior for not including those. If someone is trying to convince us, and has a graph, then it's coincidental that they have a graph and we agree with them. To us the graph has literally zero percent value to us because we're focused on what they're saying, not what they're showing us. And if we like them, then we don't want to question them because we fear that will make them hate us. If later on, someone has an opposite opinion and we trust both, then we start searching around to find out which is correct, and part of that is finding majority opinion of close people, but another part is comparing the underlying values and weaknesses there as to why people believe what they believe, and we will judge it and decide according to what we believe inside. There's a lot more going on than you realize. We don't just blindly go along with whatever people say.
Your comment is great. And this TH-camr for some reason believes that "SJW"s (he never wants to expand upon who or what that is) are one of society's greatest evils. He complains about "them" often but doesn't say why they are bad? I just try to endure the occasional rant.
Basically, everything for an Fi user is subjective.
That INFP source sighting rant was weird... DEFINITELY not how we see things.
Please watch "How INFJs Compare To INFPs." this lecture may provide additional comparative insight and double checking.
Yeah, it might be a personal experience thing or him getting mad because he cares about INFP's and wants to see them live up to their potential (He does praise INFPS quite a lot in some of his videos, probably a bit too much praise for me lol)
I'm an INFP and an asian girl. And WTF man???
We are not cute!
You really should see girls highschool students in asia... They can be like beasts.
I'm not sure which one makes me upset, metioned asian girl stereo type or using it as decription of INFPs???
Either ways, WTF dude???
And pretty much disappointed no one mentioning about this... Yay humanity.
The reason why we study mbti is to understand ourselves and others and accept the differences between us.
I don't give a damn about how you see INFPs' appearance or behavior. You're just applying a sterotype with another stereotype!
I’m also an Asian INFP and I’m with you on this one! Very icky to apply an already disempowering (and at worst, just gross) stereotype of Asian girls to INFP’s being “cute”. So dehumanising and irrational
I'm an infp guy and I've been called cute quite a few times throughout my whole life. I hated being called cute because it shows that I'm weak as a male, in fact I don't even notice how I'm cute at all. But as i learn about cognitive functions i understand why it's a natural trait for infps to have, like Joseph said it's bcos of the Fi Si function stack order. It became apparent for me to accept that trait as a part of who i am.
I love the way you speak. Your channel is worth binging. Keep it up with your good work. Love from ENFP :)
I'm an INFP. I had the same internal issue in college for my English class. A part of me would give up on assignments sometimes because there either wasn't information or there wasn't enough information with adequate sources. I got to this point internally where it's like, "If these websites don't have sources, how am I supposed to write my paper. They are never gonna read it." Or rather, in reality, I would never write it. I never really thought through why this was a huge problem. A part of me always felt kinda dumb because of it - like some barrier there internally that I didn't really get or understand. This video really touches on why an INFP way of thinking is an internal huge problem.
A story I have about INFP's keeping thoughts to their selves is me talking to a friend in middle school about her dating older guys. She was saying, "Older guys are really awesome to be around." (Something along those lines). What I was thinking in my head was, "Just because they are older, doesn't necessarily mean they are safer." In general, I just thought what she was saying was either a really bad idea or maybe I didn't like her very much. I don't really know. She and I also spent some time together in middle school and she ended up stealing from the book fair. I don't remember actively encouraging her but I recall being really uncomfortable about the entire thing and never really telling her that. All my class said about it is, "Why did you guys even steal the books when you don't read."
I spent a lot of time in middle school downplaying how uncomfortable I was having to be around people I didn't understand. I might have been trying to lie to myself about how many people I would want to spend my time around. It got better after middle school. In high school, I just started to accept that I really required to be alone. It didn't quiet all the feelings I had when I procrastinated being a student but I've been working towards accepting my inner flaws. It's really scary.
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Verifying causes you to get to crucified or assassinated is the lesson I’ve learned 😅 it’s often why I isolate. To continue to be in a mad world and be able to do nothing about it... sigh
As an INFP, the car/meeting situation sounds like something that would happen to me.
Checking out the back catalogue. Wish you'd do some more content on ENFPs, CSJ - we could use a bit more of the cold lense, but I empathise with the boredom sharing a dominant function brings - ENTPs aren't particularly interesting to me, but you're super sharp even talking about ENFP. Super interesting take on NFPs and the balance needed from (what you're getting at) Ti users
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I'm an INFP, and I know you get this a lot, but to stress it more, I am all about individual thought. sources and research makes me feel sick TBH. and the idea of a collective brainwashed society is my worst fear. individual thought is what makes us human.
You might be focusing too much on one odd experience with an INFP who was asking you to cite your sources as a last ditch effort to invalidate your opinion because they disagreed with it. in truth it's not something we turn to often unless threatened because it is fact, and in our mind it's a wall that we don't typically expect someone to be bothered to cross in everyday conversation. (I don't mean to speak for all INFP's here, but this is how I feel we are.)
Also not sure I'm down with the literal villainization of the INFP through your reference to the Bible story. That feels very unfair, especially since it's likely the basis for it isn't (at least) as broadly true as you would have us think. I'm critical of everything when I come into contact with new evidence, even if it takes me a while to loose the attachment. it's important to me to be open to revolutionary ideas to shake up what is typically beleived.
In terms of verification, in my experience I need others to verify my feelings. I can't express my feelings unless I feel that the other person respects me on the same level, and is willing to make sure I'm not going crazy. I'm not enough when it comes to how I feel, I need the validation of others opinions to make sure that what I feel is natural, and I need the reactions and help of others to help me better understand my situation and to improve. (rant over)
I am sorry it feels unfair or biased. But I am not here to do the right thing, I am here to do what works, this is because I am pragmatic and not affiliative. Have you watched my lecture on "How Do INFJs Compare to INFPs?
True. What's with sources? We instinctively get the sense of right and wrong.
I felt the same while watching this. There were some very real biases here that were obvious to anyone who is open minded and looking to seek more information on these two types. Body language and tone of voice alone tells me that there are preferences, and the experience of the speaker with these personality types has helped him make his claims.
Yes it is NOT. It is some misunderstanding. He needs to have some quality time with some quantity INFP friends. Most of the times he keeps taunting us. Even the sources ppl must be ISFJs who look similar to us. We are not as innocent and cute as we seem!
@@CSJoseph This is biased thought.
You can have this original thought of yours, but that particular one is false.
Still don't know whether I am an ENFP or an INFP. Anyway, the thing is, even if you had some issues with INFP's in your personal life it doesn't mean that you are allowed to vent your frustrations through what is supposed to be an informative video. In the end it has turned out as nothing more than an angry rant clearly lacking objectivity
angry or not i think it was helpful . it made me aware of some of my flaws, now i can work towards bettering myself :3
do you know now?
I actually enjoy the fact that this takes a more pessimistic approach. I feel like he gives me a lot to be reflective of. You're definitely a crazy smart dude, I'm going to be watching your videos all day.
And you are totally right... One hundred percent we worked best with a gun door heads. 39:53
Feels like a lot of INFP hate. You must have INFP’s that you dislike. As an INFP it’s about both facts and perception. Blaming the state of the world on INFP’s... really?
i've noticed he has quite a short fuse; Si inferior probably plays a role in this.
I test INFP but it's tough because I am the type to speak up when I feel the need to. I take the time to think out whether I should and go through all of the possibilities in my head... my Ne working as usual. I would say I pick my battles for the most part but I typically push myself to say what needs to be said. There have been cases in the past where I have spoken up after seeing another person being treated unfairly. Also, I find myself opening up and comforting others who I see as being shy or uncomfortable. On the other hand I can be very quiet and just observe when around an extraverted group of people. I tend to want to have experiences rather than stay home so I am quick to say yes when asked to hang out but don't like to initiate from fear of being rejected. I'm either a more extroverted INFP or a more introverted ENFP.
I am an INFP, and I think you are an NT. I have argued about many things with NTs, and I developed the source thing because I could not win against logos logic. Without the sources all I have is “I know how people work and this is right”. Which is a horrible argument to an NT. As I have matured the better, more convincing argument I can make is more personal. It is a big circle- I feel like my opinion is verified by me and my thinking and my understanding of how people work. I started with the sources because no one believed me.
Chase points out @ 5:00 that ENFP are "Triple movement", but only says INFP are more control - INFP's are actually "Triple Control", whilst both have "Informative" ONLY in their Ego's, their other "sides" are all "Direct" and they're both "Triple Affiliative" too.
It's less than a year after posting, but better late than never (hopefully someone else pointed this out previously to catch peeps). :-)
What i got out of this video is ENFP's are more like Willy Wonka and INFP's are more like Franz Kafka lol.
(INFP) enjoyed this, but also don’t quite agree with the argument for sources. In fact, while I appreciate people who can hold onto reference points I tend to be unimpressed/bored quickly because it becomes predictable or comes off as unoriginal and boastful (maybe more impersonal than I prefer too).
I enjoyed/laughed at the beliefs part. I can see how some people might want to argue everything you say, but it’s actually quite hilarious, insightful and thought-provoking (if not mostly true). The thought did come to my mind: Like - if I believe in “beliefs” that may also mean that I accept that one holds beliefs disparate from my own, validly, while their logic is be mostly irrelevant. For the most part, I just really believe that they will believe what they think is true (Lol, but maybe this is just me rationalizing it so I still don’t have to deal with the challenge when I don’t feel like it.)
Lol, you are such a roller coaster of emotions to watch.... one minute I don't like you, the next you are intriguing, followed by adorable, and repeat. I want to not watch you but you are scary accurate. INFP here and apparently only functioning well in some areas. I think you are 100% correct on needing someone to help with your delivery but your content is priceless. Thank you.
It is about what I believe, and I believe in finding the utmost truth, I don’t think peoples opinions matter, that’s a nice story to help a person cope, but without truth you can’t grow or take proper action…
Fi Hero and Parent is so apparent in the comments section lol
I can understand why some are hurt by what you've said. However, one of my best friends is an ENFP and every ENFP video I have watched describes him PERFECTLY. I do not think he would agree, but as an outsider I 100% agree.
This shit is not peer reviewed research based evidence. We are all spit balling here. 🙄
P.S. - with all that I am about to say, great video! I can relate to a lot of things you said (ENFP dating an INFP hahaha). There are also a lot of things that I thought were a little too black and white... I get that we have to generalise when we talk about the MBTI types, but this sounds like “NFPs at their worst.” While I recognise my flaws, the experience I have is a little more hopeful... and as far as Logos and Fi is concerned, the only way to satisfy Fi is to form a foundation for it on Logos. Fi knows that lies will crumble and so it seeks the truth for its security. The search doesn’t always look like cold, hard logic (haha I’m self aware enough to know that!), but it is no less intelligent and genuine, and it will produce results, although it might take a little more emotional turmoil than Ti types are comfortable with. Some more Jesus-Logos for you: “take the log out of your own eye before trying to remove the splinter from mine.” ;)
Damn nice job with the rawness in this one! Somebody has to do the job of telling things, as they are- not sugar coating stuff up. I wonder why your INFP vids are the one with highest hate comments. Something to do with Si child wanting good experience?
Though, I'm guessing (not seen social engineering season yet) if you want to get a point across them - keeping them comfortable is important
INFP here. I recently lost a lot of weight from this method I found and I told a few people about it, like people living with me but to the majority of people I kept quiet until they asked me how I was losing the weight. I wasn't there to tell them before I'd rather then ask me about it. Also with films I like and such. I obviously enjoy telling people my feelings on things but I prefer when people ask me. I get that feeling you described of respect maybe....
What you said about the bad experience is so true. I really don't care because I know I can take it. Even though I also feel so insecure and sensitive I can push myself to a bad experience if I have reasons to even. Ugh that's so true.
Another thing that is so true is believing a lie because it will make me feel good. That is so freaking true. I can definitely do that. Honestly these past few days I've been avoiding a lot of my work I'm supposed to be doing and have been so in my head with feelings and thoughts and your videos are inspiring me to get out of that and have confidence in myself to carry on.
I do relate to the nature of me not verifying. I site sources sometimes and I just assume they are correct because they've been accepted by the majority. That is wrong. I think I've gotten better at it over the years and it's allowed me to build on my personal philosophy and thanks to this video I'm going to make it a part of my life to try and verify because I feel that's just the right thing to do for humanities sake.
I think most INFPs grow in their weaknesses by believing it is the morally correct thing to do. I know that's how I've developed.
Hey. I definitely want to know how you lost all that weight.
ENFP here, whatever you talk about infps though I somewhat agree with you I feel I can't send it to any of my infp friends because they'll probably think of insulting them, what a lot of people would see is a guy in a black shirt and a white board yelling at them
I cannot comfort anybody into wisdom.
C.S. Joseph Lmao that's something my INTP friend would say... He'd use the word coddle tho. Haha ican see it now.😂
@@CSJoseph Don't judge all INFPs based on 2-3 ppl.
You were a big help..... For me now for the future. Have been studying these MBTI personality types and wouldn’t be here without you... Thank you C.S Joseph. Wish I could do more.... ExFP or INxP still trying to figure it out. As I’m currently watching and noticing maybe holding this comment... and probably should stop now before I Start rambling. Lol.
Another INFP here-I am actually quite cynical when it comes to what I read or hear. Many will consider me closed-minded or naive, but as a Christian, my ultimate source if the Bible. If something new comes along, I compare it to Logos, the Word. This satisfies me as an INFP.
Totally not bitter about the INFP in the car!! ;D
Wow thanks my guy, this helps me become a fuller more rounder person - infp
Hope you feel better soon!
It's funny. I was just thinking about how I think my brother is an ENFP, and then I saw you posted this video. Good timing.
I don’t know if the teachers were infps or not, but when I questioned the referencing thing with ideas I had come up with, I was told variously that…
I was not smart enough to be using my own ideas, or,
I was not an authority and therefore how could I base a theory on an unfounded idea? or,
If I wanted to do this I should first go back and test the first idea instead of using an unproven idea to support another.
I thought about this and came to the conclusion that instead of them having a lack of original thought or indeed believing original thought even existed, (and I have to admit that was my initial reaction), that this was literally the scientific process at work.
I now think if we used empirical scientific process it is probably safer than purely thought experiments because there is evidential proof and it stops decades of scientific thought wandering off down paths that could easily end up being dead ends.
Im an INFP and Im a philosophy major i love logic. I dont follow the crowd AT ALL. I always think about whether something is objectively true or not so your wrong. I dont care about sources more than whats said, that sounds wayyy more like an ISTJ. Just because someone is emotional doesnt mean that they cant think deeply. You can have both. Also a lot of great thinkers were INFPs.
it sounds more like INTP tbh
@@CSJoseph im insanely romantic, dramatic and emotional though so. I dont think so
@@socratesandstorybooks1109 are you enneagram 4? I’m a subconscious focused ISTP E4 and I am more emotional, dramatic, and romantic that the average ISTP. If you have inferior Fe then maybe you are also subconscious focused?
@@CuddleClaw. hmmm interesting. How would I tell??
Thank you so much! Going to watch this a couple more times to fully ingest it! Thank you again
Quote my ENFP friend when I showed him this video: "this is exactly how I'd wanna present online lectures"😂😂😂 gotta love that SE demon
I admire your strength and energy exertion to deliver this presentation while under the weather.
Can you explain what you mean by socially capable and people oriented? Because I find the vast majority of social interactions to be annoying. I am people oriented in the sense that I am obsessed with understanding people (including myself), as well as understanding the human condition. I find humans annoying and intriguing at the same time if that makes sense..? I am very socially awkward and tend to drift away when I am around a bunch of people engaged in small talk.
Ti parent coming, my dude. Read Matthew 15. He used the standard for Logos against the rationale of the Pharisees. They sacrificed the Scriptures (OT) for tradition and taught others to do so. Jesus is all about Truth, and Paul was on par with that Truth. He tore down just as much if not more the traditions of the Pharisees by bringing the Logos. He knew the standard before correcting. Trust but verify.
Great video! Your videos are helping educate me on so much concerning nature vs nurture. So much truth!
Hi, I'm an "older" INFP. We really believe in original ideas. We understand that, if you want to write a research paper and express an idea that is not your own, then according to society's protocols, you will need to identify your source so that you don't commit PLAGIARISM. BUT, you can certainly insert your original ideas. You just have to make it clear which ideas are your own and which you got from someone else. AND...I don't know where Jesus says in the scriptures that there is no salvation in the scriptures. It's actually that ALL the scriptures work together to POINT TO HIM as the source of salvation, which God was going to send to the earth to redeem mankind. So, technically, the salvation in the scriptures only exists within the understanding that they are invoking and referring to a HIGHER Spirit - the Spirit of Jesus Christ. The LOGOS (data, logic) of the Word, is pointing to the RHEMA (Spirit of Truth).
great video, I feel like one of the reasons why people get butthurt by what you say about their types is not because of what you're saying but the voice tone you're using to address such flaws and criticisms regarding their types, people will listen to you more if you can be nicer with your tone of voice and instead of getting defensive they will see the value in what you're saying more so and appreciate you more for your content.
Who cares about delivery. I am not here to comfort people into wisdom, that too is impossible.
Since I have completed two Tony Robbins seminars my identity has switched from INFP to ENFP.
Not complaining
I wouldn’t blame a whole societal disfunction on one mbti archetype. 🙄
mans blaming like a huge portion of the internet (and especially politics) on only two types...
I really like your videos you have taught me things no one else teaches :) enfp on the internet theres so much stuff but not alot of the hard to deal with things. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places? But thankyou ! Enfp here watching all your play list :)
you are most welcome
Infp struggling in art school. Struggling with all these shit
This is the second time ive heard anime referenced in relation to infp's, which is amusing cause i know an infp who is really into anime
Hyuga Hinata = INFP
randomaccount39 I'd say ESFP. I often contemplated this myself because I'm an ENFP myself, and I see a lot of similarities between us too as far as, being people centered goes. I see the big difference in how Naruto learns, which majority of the time is through raw experience. Since the beginning he's always wanted to be the greatest ninja there is (The Hokage) that delves into what I believe to be more of an Ni inferior rather than a Ne hero. So if it's Ni inferior this is where his aspirations lie ( him wanting to be Hokage since the beginning), as well as where his fears like as well (Getting Sasuke back [Ni inferior], failing over and over trying to find many different ways to get him back by any and all means [Ne demon]). The you get into his worries which would be the unconscious nemisis function Si, so he, very much so worries To put this into perspective, why does he want to be Hokage so bad... Because as he went on in life from the beginning people forced him in experiences of treating him like shit.(Se) Like an outcast. So he pretty much said, fuck all that, fuck all y'all, I'm gonna do my own thing (fi+te). Think about how he learned pretty much every single jutsu he's learned... Shit the classic shadow clone jutsu is a perfect example.... So his environment as a child forced him to be condition to learn things the hard way which is through experience... Keep in mind that the ENFP type is one of the most introverted of all extroverted types, and the hero function Ne is an abstract observer function. It uses the imagination externally all the time to make mental connections to see how things work or more so how people work since we're dealing with a people centered type. I can see someone like Hinata being more of an ENFP type... Now it's tricky because Naruto does have a lot of ENFP qualities... Scattered brain like, being a champion for someone else's cause, not really considering the implications of how things are exactly going to turn out for himself, but given the points o mentioned above... Learn through experience (Se) trumps learning through the observation of experiences(Ne)...and his will power(Ni) trumps the usage of his metaphysical process (Ne; due to him having shadow clones, and learning through experience through his clones slightly gives him an exception, but it's not that big of one)... If anything I can see him possibly being an INTJ as well. Due to how those observer functions play out, but ESFP just speak more to me...
I think Japan is very much about predictable structures and social interactions- very comfortable for INFPs than figuring out whatever be yourself means ^^
@@cellariusianua how tf is ichigo infp
@@cellariusianua yh tbh but ichigo is definitely not infp, he seems intp to me or isfp
I am pretty sure I am an infp, but it's weird. I have always been outspoken. My problem growing up, has been that I used to say things to people's face. I still do that although I have learnt to b a little subtle about it. But whenever I see someone screwing up or doing something wrong, I call them out almost immediately. I have been called domineering and aggressive multiple times by more sensitive people. I never really thought something was wrong with me though. I felt like I needed to say it. They needed to hear it. I also appeared to be critical to some people. When they kept on pointing it out, I tried to work on it. And as I said, I have become a little more subtle😅. I wonder if infps are like this from time to time, although I have been like this most of my life
The sourse thing... with the infp teaching style is not necessarily a group thinking thing... sometime it does , but it is still like that even when it logic base, becouse it comes from Si. but not like every si, the infp Si is an archives that store insane iNtuition paterns, based on tons of data combine together, and it is a responsible Ni intuition.... there is no other type but inp's that have the ability of doing responsble intuition conclusions. We inp just freak out of how everybody else do not have the ability to separete between what is their intuition and what is others.
So many of the damage couse by the infp teaching is becouse no one aware to the exact cognitive differences between then and the other.
Also infp have the point of view says that "logicly, there is a chance that all of my conclusions may turt out to be coplitely worng and subjactive , becouse of a reason that right now is out of my poin of view, so if sombody else is describe the same big picture philosofy conclotion as my, /if many other people feeling the same (all of them is store about one reference, "the archetype" in the infp mind) so it kik the as* to the main feer of the infp that they may be so completely wong,
And we so afraid to talk so we propeble will not open our mouth without To confront the argument first, even when these argument is just in our mind, so the teacher is just passing his fears and lack of confidence to the students so they have insecure in thien logic too, and everybody feel safer to relay on the group thing. This is way isfj is suffering so much becouse they have a insecure in their moral so they rather lay on group ethic, combine with the norm of "doubt your logos becouse u may be the only one who thinking this way so it *there is a posibilty* that u totaly worng" is freak the hel out tge isfj and left them without the abillity to trust themself.....
couse the infp makes himself a personal example, but they not... and the infp like the intp have the Endless ability to doubt and reassessing everthing, from the very first roots...so we share out conclution to other so they can chaked it out and see if it right but no one is thinking like us so it comes out like over share, destroy the outcome massage...
I got little Scattered here but i do have a strong point that all other infp i met is very identify with
btw did you maybe see Monty Phytons "Nudge Nudge, Wink, wink" sketch, imo you can say it shows an example of the Informative Initiating Movement interaction style.
my ENTJ mom gives me reality checks (aka facts that make my arguments crumble like dried plants) everytime I go off in my "should-be-could-be-I want it to be" rants so thank god I'm not a very ignorant infp
I think infp could handle the truth, they are more inclined to believe in others intentions which is too vague to be called truth, they like "good stuff" which makes them not like the opposite by default and if that's the truth then so be it, but if in the infp life "good stuff" happen and they associate truths with those "good stuff" (I'm putting words too loosely but meh) they WILL surely value the truth much more than anything. I'm speaking from experience since I believe I don't have a problem with logic (recieving it. not making it. in no way would I be able to) and that made me feel alienized in EVERY infp video to the point that I typed myself as intp which... just nope. Back to our talk, si and Fi-Te are more relied on each other than you think, memory are also perceptions, and you can learn to appreciate truths more than dreams.
INFP just don't know how to build logic so we go the round-about way... think, feel, doubt, ask, see it, don't believe it, denial, crisis, oh wait that's true, believe it, don't tell anyone because you'll be judged as a hypocrite, develope complexe about that sort of thinking, eventually don't become truth-oriented because you didn't practice, feel attacked by *insert anyone talking about infp+logic* , oh no one to ACTUALLY help out in this crisis, ignore forever because it was definitely a bad experiece that draged for too long to our Fi liking and judgement, forget that this happened (selective memory checks), think, feel, that's something you can do, be proud.
it's .... very unconventional I have to say, especialy the parts where you realize you're becoming an enemy to yourself by critisizing too much , that hurts because initially not a lot of people appreciate our thoughts and ideas (nevermind liking them...) so having even your own inner self judging you feel like the world is against you
but if someone cocky and cheeky enough to push the truth into our minds telling us the good side of it to make us believe it, then reassures us that it takes a bit to take in so THAT detail which is killer detail makes us feel fine, then tells us the bad parts for us to develop a better judgement, then infps would warm up to the idea of logic then eventually that person can tell the truth good and bad simultanuously and we'd be fine
but that's a lot of work to other people, so far, only mom and C.S joseph were able to properly do it
so I don't make this a sollution... more like a noob fix
No matter at college, home or workplace, my closest friend or family members are mostly ENFP and I found that INFP are always the one that I feel hard to connect with. Sorry INFP. I'm ENTP btw.
This was a very interesting and insightful video (or lecture?). Speaking from an INFJ. Thanks!
[INFP] I still don't know how Ti Demon works, and when it kicks in and what the normal responses would be but is it possible to be developed because of the influence of those who raised you? My cousin is an ENFP and her dad is an ENTP. He's a great manipulator, a cynical person - he likes playing mindtricks, testing truths, that most of the time catch people off guard. He's quite intentional to teach me and her daughter his ways so we won't be tricked lol and it sure as heck feel like it rubbed off on me. Cause while I have the optimism and give others benefit of the doubt outwardly, I am hardly disillusioned to what I want to believe in that I even investigate things on my own even if I know it could get hurtful to know the truth. Now that I read it, it sounds more like an ENFP with a Ti Trickster. (I'm a little unsure whether I am ENFP or INFP tbh) anyway, my cousin is like that too. She knows and believe something but would go to lengths to find out the truth before she fully make up her mind, even if it means scratching out what she first believed in.
Best thing as an infp is stop thinking just do. Speak up when you don't want too as thats probably when you should. And don't care what ppl think because in the end it don't matter. 😊 best thing for an individual any individual to grow is take on other traits or ways of doing things not usually you but in that instance is needed ie im not comfortable with doing something on the fly, like i will panic if we haven't thought of this and that. I had to learn to drive a small truck and help my motherinlaw move house. I didn't want too because hey truck but a few mistakes along the way, anxiety and all i did it, and still she is thankful i did that for her. Step out the norm of what it is to be an infp and you will shock yourself. 😊😊
I always get either INfJ, INFP and ENFP as results.
It's safe to say I'm not an INFJ. I am almost sure I use Fi and Ne the most often.
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The hardest part was to see if I'm an ENFP or an INFP, since the functions are just in different order.
I lean towards INFP, since it just matches me perfectly. I learned a lot about myself by reading about INFPs.
So, I hope it gives me enough insights to really help me see if I'm an INFP or an ENFP.
I believe I'm an INFP.
More accurate then a sniper 😁
I test as infp but I would say something. Where are you going? I think this is our exit? Why are you driving like this? I think if I don’t know the person well, I might be quiet but If I want to get there, I’m going to speak up.
ENFP, do you like me????😭
Now imagine these personalities in the current scenario, all trusting and defending what the "official sources" say. God save us.