Ooo....ok so I'm six minutes in and asking myself whether you believe all that or saying it because you know perfectly well the exact way to get me to listen to criticism is to first tell me A. I'm brilliant and that my ideas are extremely important, B. If I'm not careful I might hurt everyone around me. Me: 1. Debates with myself for 5 minutes straight about whether to stop watching on principle or give in to curiosity and let myself be manipulated. 2. Knows I'll still be curious even if I close the tab now. 3. Hits play. 4. Rationalizes: If I'm gonna be manipulated, may as well be by someone who's gonna show me how not to be manipulated. Damn it.
I saw this video 6 months ago and I thought that he was arrogant and a jerk, then because I needed to work on my ego I became more humble and now I get many lessons he is trying to give us.
I remember when I was a small kid, a girl caught me stealing strawberries from our neighbors' garden and blackmailed me that she will tell my parents and the neighbors. I was so scared, I had a reputation of a good girl, but I hated she got such power over me, so I went to my parents and told them myself that I was stealing and that I feel so bad about it. They told me they respect the sincerity and that they won't punish me, just told me never to do it again. I still remember that feeling of relief to this day ... I'm grateful for such valuable lesson at an early age, and I regret the times when I went against it to save my status, lost reputation is nothing compared to those moments in my life when I was a coward or too comfortable to stay true to myself, those moments will haunt me for the rest of my life
This is crazy! I have almost the same story. I was 6 and the teacher sent me home one afternoon with a note to my parents. I don't remember why...most likely daydreaming and not paying attention in class. I was walking with a neighborhood kid (same age) and ripped the note up and threw it in the woods. Then the kid tried to blackmail me for candy...hall's cough drops lol! I was terrified and I felt horrible about it. Every hour I was full of maddening fear while waiting for the mess to hit the fan. But unlike you, I refused to tell on myself lol. I walked around on tiptoes and in slow motion, eyes darting to and fro, until the teacher finally called and I was confronted. And after my mom reamed me for embarrassing her by keeping her in the dark and making the teacher think she was raising a total weirdo...which I was lol! She forgave me. And THEN! I let out a sigh of relief. Funny thing is that I didn't tell my neighbor. So she asked me one day to give her something, and I said no. She said "If you don't give it to me, I'm gonna tell your mom about that note." I was like yeah she knows about that already, so yeah. lol
@@mikr2066 im a INFP, but I am different in this respect ... I always preferred to face the consequences than to lie and when they try to threaten me with my secrets I lose my fear of being criticized automatically and face people head on. I hate being controlled more than anything.
As an INFP I'm less worried about people's perception of me as I am of people having FALSE perceptions of me. I do not care if you think I'm weird (because I'm weird...) I care if you think that I'm lazy when I'm actually just struggling to function. ... sometimes I am extremely lazy!! Today if you called me lazy, i'd agree because I did nothing but sit on my phone XD If you called me lazy for taking an Uber to the airport and preferring that my husband doed 90% of the driving, I would disagree because of my anxiety and my slow reaction time and the probability of me hurting myself or others behind the wheel. Also, I don't think INFPs agree with something just because the majority feels the same way. infact, I think "devil's advocate" is our favorite game. Or at least I don't trust that the majority knows the truth anyway.....not that anyone does...unless you're psychic... But there's not a ton of evidence for the truth when the truth comes to you in indirect, dream like ways :/
INFPs are the fastest readers of fiction. Since they read primarily for feeling they can read the same favorite book 10 times and still not tire of it because it produces the same feelings each time they read it.
@@ABC-jq7ve As an INTP it took me 10 months to read Lord of the Rings. It took my INFP wife 10 days. I will never read a book more than once unless it is the scriptures. My INFP wife has read her favorite Jane Austin and Bronte books 5 times or more. I only watch a movie once. She watches her exact same favorite Christmas movies every year. Socionics shows why this is so. When INFPs go on vacation they prefer to go to the same spot each year to relive the previous years happy vacation memories. As an INTP I do not prefer going to the same spot for vacation each year.
My sister is an ESTJ and also super quick at reading, could read Harry Potter books in like 2 days and read each one multiple times. Must be that INFP subconscious, cause she’s really into fiction. Or maybe it’s just something about that entire quadra
@@ShadowQuik The fastest readers are Te-Fi users. Why? Because they don't have their internal thoughts (Ti) to slow down the absorbing of other people's thoughts contained in the words on the page. Ti keeps slowing the reading down by analyzing whether the words are true or false. Fi-Te doesnt care about true or false. It accepts other people's thought's as they are without the filter of Ti. This works great for fiction because the word fiction actually means false in its latin form. And Fi cares about how words make one feel not whether it is based on truth. This makes Hollywood so dangerous. Because it can produce false happy feelings out of false principals that Ti can detect. For instance Hollywood is great at portraying premarital intimate relations without unwanted pregnancies or diseases. A strong Ti user would be more able to discern this and turn off the tube. My ISFJ mom would frequently turn off any "sleazy" TV shows in her words. So the Delta quadra are the fastest readers due to Te-Fi coupled with Si-En that prefers an imaginary world over their actual physical surroundings. But it comes at the price of not having the Ti filter of discernment of truth and not having Se to show what is actually real.
@@jaredvaughan1665 That's a great analysis, as a Ti/Fe user I've definitely always leaned towards being a slow reader, and yeah difficulty absorbing the thoughts of the author. In fact that made me do poorly on the SAT's reading section, where you have to read short excepts and answer these comprehension questions. I guess when I picked an answer, I was like "that's not inconsistent with the text", but apparently I was wrong a lot of the time. On the other hand higher Te users probably knew what the author was thinking when writing the excerpt, or perhaps even what the test-makers were thinking when they made the question, so as a result the correct answer was more obvious to them. That sense of "obviousness" is often not there to Ti it seems.
As an infp in my late teens I HATED the phrase "fake it till you make it" because if you just fake it then you are left with fake with no ability to make. This was after my early teens when I turned me demon inwards and destroyed the fantasies I had created around me and then I became hyperaware of my fact I could end up a useless member of society and despretly wanted to avoid this. But I did adopting a new phrase "fail till you succeeded". Because each time I failed, I failed less. There was growth and develop. And I can endure a lot of failure. understanding this has helped me a lot as I move forward in my education.
cs j hates fake it till u make also or has said so in some videos... maybe its just a phrase i see it more like watch learn as you go. not so much fake but hey if you dont have the experience. public humiliation is easy own your mistakes and dont bullshit instead of humiliation you will instead get more respect
INFPs can be super shaped by their upbringing. If it wasn't for my ENFJ mom and ENTJ dad teaching me to get out of my comfort zone and verify everything, I don't know where I'd be.
Yes you are lucky in that way of having extroverted judging but still intuitive parents. My mom is an ISFJ and dad is an ESTP and my step dad is an ISTJ and my mom had very heavy Si. I am a INFP but a very practical and versatile one. I am also the only N in my family as both my siblings are SPs (ISFP brother and ESFP sister). Therfor I have found myself over-compensating for the lack of N around me growing up by ramping up and diving deep into my Ne and even using a ton of Ni at various periods in my life while traversing the shadowy terrain of my unconscious. I also have been forced to use a lot of Te to interact with my heavy S family because I have trouble using Si in an extroverted sense. Te is much easier for me to use and I've become so conditioned to using it that my INFJ girlfriend thinks I'm just an ISTJ with high Fi good development of N! I'm only 24 so I fully understand what you mean by this. Good point, thanks!
Don’t know what my mum was but she was the TOTAL opposite of me. Very verbally abusive…always told me I’d never amount to anything…affected my self esteem for many years.
This is how I (an INFP) like it. Straightforward and honest. No bullshit; no lies. Thank you for this video. I suddenly became conscious and more socially aware of what I do and how these things affect everyone around me and vice versa.
Listen you know yourself. This is not fool proof. We dont need to be social engineered. We feel real ish...period The only way we get manipulated is to not use our gut. Forget the mess people say out their throat.
i'm very aware that I can be easily brainwashed... but at the same time i let myself be, to see how the person brainwashing/manipulating me will present themselves
What makes you think INFPs define the value of ideas or beliefs based on what the majority believes? Fi is about personal values, finding them and upholding them despite what other people may think, say or do. It's inherently nonconformist. Coupled with Ne, even more so. As an INFP, I've always questioned what the majority believes and does. It is natural to me. I feel the need to be authentic, so I analyze every common idea or behavior and see how I feel about it. Some times I found out I agree with what the majority of people believe, but many times I found out I disagree. And once I've decided, I don't care how many people disagree with me, I will change my mind only if, by using Ne and Te, I see that my belief is not based on enough data, it's black-or-white, impractical or whatever. My own thoughts and ideas are constantly under my scrutiny. Also, truth and objectivity are very important to me, due to inferior Te concerns about my Fi values not being based on objective facts, and thus, biased and an easy target for criticism. Maybe poorly developed INFPs in a Si loop may use Si to justify holding onto a nonsensical belief and avoid to use Ne to see that they may be wrong. But believing somethig is true just because most other people believe it is? That would be weird for an INFP.
@@flipperishheart6516 nothing wrong with me asking the question. I do not see how this is gaslighting. Asking questions for the purpose of verification does not equate to gaslighting. Do you even read what you write?
C.S. Joseph there's no way I'm an INFJ. Ni is a foreign concept to me. I see myself using more or less consciously all of the INFP functions. So, what about it? It seems to me you either have some bias against the INFP type, or that you don't understand it and your knowledge is actually just a collection of anecdotes and stereotypes. Or both.
YEAH! I literally have told myself on several occasions "damn, it'd be hard to brainwash me." when other people around me were expressively getting inspired or buying whatever was being told. Examples that I can think of rn: Mostly religious sermons (both from the sect I was born in and the fairly opposite one). I know it's a typical example, but your pastor example brought it up in my mind. I ask unexpected questions in both intimate settings or even in the classroom/conferences etc. (not forgetting to myself as well). I'm new to this model, but I've always gotten INFP as the result. A 4w5 on Enneagram one. What am I missing?
@@luisa146 yeah sure but doesn't mean there are infps like me who can't understand that when you're speaking to a large audience it's best to take this with a grain of salt because generalizing is best than to have an individual point of view since he's not talking about all of us so he has to generalize so he can get his main point across which is : how to social engineer INFPs in this case mostly immature INFPs
Honestly I was slowly losing interest in MBTI because I was tired of my type being portrayed as a 10 y/o child (I was also tired of being answered 'Oh, you must be INTJ then' if I objected). Really satisfied of the complex, dispassionate quality of your content. Keep up the good work!
INFPs are a lot more rebellious then you’re giving them credit for. The “scale” metaphor didn’t resonate with me... they’re very willing to go again the majority if it aligns with their personal beliefs
The problem I think is to accept where I might have gone wrong, accept it, get newer better information and move on. It takes a lot of personal discipline to try to do this, I struggle.
I sometimes do wonder if his repeation of "INFPs, being the most brilliant of all types and the ones with truly the most important opinions" is, at least in the exaggerated form it's executed, a form of Social Engineering in itself; for a good cause at the very least. That shall make It quite interesting
Yeah I think a lot of how he words things is social engineering -- for the greater good. But to be honest I've always been suspicious of compliments. So whenever he says that, a big part of me is wondering if he's trying to trick me somehow -- kind of like a Siren's Song.
@Hannah RJ: So, you're saying he's intending to develop the very sense of Stockholm Syndrome (in the Collective (Un)conscious of INFP's) he mentions in this very video?
what if frank james worked on his INFJ handicaps and by doing so is seen as an INFP to the outside world. his method of decisions could still be still INFJ , but trained himself to now execute those decisions with a self actualised discernment. judging his judgements. ( maybe watch a few of his early videos , instead of those where he is being interviewed, the very nature of a for public interview requires a personality to be guarded, and by extension not entirely appropriate as a definitive assessment of character ) i have no criticism of your style, i think your super sharp and on target. but i feel perhaps something some how, was lost in translation in your frank james assessment. as an INFP i'm always telling a INFJ to fake it till they make it. lol only cause it kills me when they become so distraught over something as easy as ' just change your mind '
also if frank james ask to do a podcast with him, it's likely because he has watched your videos, appreciates sincerely your brilliance and has learned from your 'school' not because he read a top ten list or summer one told him to. i regret the very few times when my ego got in under the radar and in my way
@@antonyka-pra-ra lol. 'just change your mind' is mission impossible to immature INFJ, they reject concrete facts out of hand, literally won't even LOOK at them if 'something works for them' They only seem interested in concrete truth rather than 'perspectives' if it would provision them with something they want. INFP kick off at CS analysis because he labels their motivations as status driven when that's actually only the case for immature INFP. Mature INFP are already so often misunderstood, their unorthodox voices and way of being, ignored and rejected, so we're understandably worried this will lead to even more dismissal of both ourselves and the kind of philosophy we know could help change the world for the better. To clarify, If you're 'angelic' INFP, your motivation is problem solving/warning others to save them/the world from damage, NOT status. I've seen plenty of immature INFP who noticeably concerned with status and yes, they have the capacity to be extremely manipulative, selfish and immoral, so yeah, different maturity levels of INFP can be like night and day Just think of it this way. When sensory perception is strong, ALL feelings run hot right? That's a powerful thing and dependant on underlying biology and how you develop yourself, you could either become a master of those feelings, you could have excessive mirror neurons that make you responsive to others pain, you could thus become, so incredibly careful of your own and others feelings, mapping yourself and everyone out to that end and developing cognitive empathy to complement your natural affective empathy, OR, you just take the easy route and avoid anything that feels bad (work) and indulge in anything that makes you feel good (sex, admiration,status). If you don't learn to master your 'power', you could end up overwhelmed by it, go full Jean Gray and destroy the whole damn world. Mature INFP are the literal opposite, of immature INFP. They deny their wants unless their is moral justification. Angelic INFP would be very unlikely to sleep around for instance, and are absolutely willing to become social pariahs to defend principles that MUST be defended for the good of humanity. They have developed insight to the point they can predict patterns of behaviour, so can forsee results if they were to fail to intervene and 'mentor' people into better patterns of behaviour. I'd say mature NFJ more easily provide clarity re perspectives of others, wheras NFP are more concerned with and more easily provide insight into, how people SHOULD perceive/be. Despite their mapping of others, even mature INFP are at risk of being conned by others if they're not careful, because they tend to HOPE people are good, or responding to their mentoring/ becoming 'better', to the point they put an overly positive slant on what they observe in people. That's something I'm learning to check myself for more as I get older. Every single time I err on the side of best case scenario, when I've seen a red flag, I've regretted it. Its hard to tell INFP from INFJ, but generally I can differentiate the two types by a few key things. INFJ will have a more organised and fluent way of presenting their arguments/opinions verbally. INFPs will go off on more tangents. INFP are more likely to write poetically, thoug both will often write poetry, INFP poetry will tend to be more passionate or emotional, symbolic and concise. INFJ poetry tends to be more sentimental, verbose, often focusing more on themes/things/scenes, uses more similes rather than symbolism. There's something more robotic in the way INFJ think, present and articulate is the only way I can explain it. Being sensitive, health wise, INFP are also more likely to suffer migraine, (caused by overstimulated brain). Many seem to be diagnosed with high functioning autism. Mature INFP will often have autoimmune issues triggered by psychological/physical stress. All INFP are more likely to appear lazy UNLESS motivated to serve others or a greater good. Being overly stimulated by default, they burn through energy reserves by default and they can be easily stressed, so they're usually looking to delegate physical tasks to conserve energy. It's a nuanced issue. Mature INFP will rally when they need to, to avoid burdening others and to help others, but immature tend to be parasitic. Where it gets tricky, is that mature INFP can become physically ill due to pushing past their energy/biological capabilities and feel terrible guilt for feeling lazy, when they're not. That's when INFPs start researching and sharing health information along with the politics 😏 These are all the things I've noticed. Don't know if anyone else has observed these nuances too?
@@bethmaiden2621 i'm an INFP in a relationship with an INFJ and yes , all that you've stated is on point - aside perhaps from the immature parasite, i can't really say since as long as i can recollect i've been curious enough about anything to eagerly throw my hands into 'help' usually too much but of course that line is relative. on the rare occasions if i didn't feel like it, then it absolutely wasn't going to happen. If i did /do, no task was/is ever to daunting nor herculean. what i wish i knew long ago was that i should have never felt everyone 'thought' the same and were 'smarter' than i. when i realized this (much too late) everything finally made 'sense' and certainly made life so much easier. ie how an illogical mind works and what parameters must be kept to. A slow go handicap ramp is better for all involved then the hoist drag and carry.
can't wait to hear how naive and easily swayed I am when someone appeals to my feeeeelings edit: I'm just kidding Mr. C.S. Joesph, the video "How Do INTPs Compare To INFPs?" definitely clued me in to how much you respect INFPs. All jokes aside, I'm very excited for this video because I have zero doubts as to how fantastic it'll be!
I value criticism because I see what sticking your head in the sand does to people. My mother is an ENFP and she is the epitome of depravity. She manipulates, lies, and gaslights everyone and then twists the situation so she comes out as a victim. If we tell her she's hurting us, or she's lying to us she screams at us and tells us we're attacking her. My INFJ sister-in-law took me in and taught me everything my mother never did: manners, personal hygiene, and having a sense of duty. I couldn't have done it if she didn't criticise me. As an INFP, I could have easily turned out like my mother and I am so thankful I'm not. I no longer have contact with my mother and it's from your advice CS Joseph. Get the losers out of your life!
@@LuanZeqiri1 I'm sorry but the one who raised me was my sister-in-law. I'm not going to give respect to someone just because they gave birth. I know your heart is in the right place but my family didn't cut her off for small reasons. It was a hard decision for all of us.
I didn't know INFPs were so important. It's kind of scary that we have that much power, according to what you say about us. But, I mostly watch these videos so I can overcome the flaws of my typing
Hello C.S. Joseph, For years I was sure I was an INFJ. Your videos about INFJs made sense to me, even touched me. But I have come to realize I am an INFP! Everything makes so much more sense. I remember at one time I brought out the idea of me being INFP and my friends who are all Fi/Te users said I was INFJ and gave me “evidences” for the reason being which were mere experiences and stereotypes. They were not facts (Ti). Tests I would take would give me results that I am INFJ and I would believe it, now realizing I never verified the tests. This explains so much why I would have a hard time understanding my fellow ENFP and INFPs. I didn’t understand how I as an “INFJ” was the perfect match for them bc I viewed them as SO FAKE and could see through their manipulation! I didn’t understand why I was so drawn to ENFJs and most of my loyal friends are INTJs and ENTJs. It didn’t make sense as an INFJ so I watched a video from Frank James’ channel about the difference between INFJ and INFP Ha! and got even more confused of course and doubted myself that maybe I am actually INFJ? Bc the advice he was giving I could obviously relate to. Something seemed off. But I’m glad you clarified that he’s an INFP bc it makes SO much more sense now. I can clearly see it and the difference! Your INFP virtue and vice video was also spot on especially about over praising us and then we’ll blame the other for setting us for failure. My status conscious ESTJ mom manipulated/used me to gain approval from our community and I loved it at the time bc I was also getting viewed highly. I was so unaware that I was getting manipulated. I had so much influence over the community and my mom definitely knew it. She used me to get rid of those who she didn’t like and change the entire social dynamic of the community. I had no idea what was happening bc I thought everything was good bc I was feeling “good”. When I finally matured, humbled myself, became true, and left, I realized I was succumbed to group think and my mom had set me up for failure. And to this day, I still blame and despise her. I HATE when I get constant praise bc it gets into my head, I get too comfortable and then I get LAZY! I had an ENTP male friend once who would never praise me when others did and thought he was either rude or jealous. But he was the only one doing me a favor! I have thought about getting a typing session from you a while ago when I was doubting my type but it was a bit pricey for me. But now I know why and I appreciate what you charge bc you are the VERY FEW who tells the TRUTH. You have some valuable knowledge. I want to thank you so much for criticizing(not in a negative connotation) us INFPS and then building us back up bc we INFPs definitely need it. *Now I’m having hard time finding good videos and articles about INFPs bc most are misinformed and incredibly shallow stuff.
OMG, he mentioned John Locke as possibly being INFP. Most people haven't even heard of Locke. I always connected with Locke's ideas and am INFP...this guy is goood...
@@geriatricward The fact that me telling you the truth made you feel so bad proves you are INFP. Congratulations you now know your type! My wife is an INFP. You guys are good people. I'm sure you are good too since for an INFP being good is more important than knowing the truth. Take care.
@@dolfdervish8495 Ever hear the expression "the road to hell is sometimes paved with good intentions?" So you can have good intentions but be harming someone. Like a doctor who misdiagnosis and gives a bad prescription that was meant to help but actually harms. Or a parent that cleans all of their teanager's messes that causes them to be lazy.
The more he talks the more confused I get. I am not one to follow the thoughts of the masses, once I have drawn a conclusion, and incorporated it as a value. I may let you think you have swayed me over, by not arguing my point, but thats because I will let you be you, even though I know your wrong.
On another note as I'm listening to this, I would say that infp can be susceptible to groupthink when they are not totally comfortable with themselves due to the need of being accepted. However, I infps are naturally individualistic when they learn to accept themselves and know who they are.
Ahh, no.. Even very confident INFP are susceptives of group thinking.. It takes real courage for INFP s to confront people, or saying they dont agree.. They dobit only for things who won`t damage their reputation.. But if it damages their reputation, it in very difficult for them.
As an infp I don’t actually accept the standard narrative cuz everyone believes it’s true I actually challenge most of which ppl believe is true and tend to reject collective beliefs if they aren’t objectively true .. hmm but maybe that’s because I’ve been burned by following or accepting popular opinion which never felt right
Same like I cannot imagine anyone ever blackmailing me or selling me bs. I care way too much about the truth. It’s literally my foundation. I can’t think of a single thing about myself that I would not willingly expose to people and just deal with the aftermath. I refuse to be controlled. I thought we care more about authenticity. The idea that we are susceptible to groupthink and blackmail is just a totally foreign concept to me.
As an INFP, who listens to how they feel to make decisions, I def agree about the FDA approved stuff! I hate when people say its good because some organization said it was. Like bloodletting was considered good so. Ugh people. Hahah.
Won't they? To protect their inferior? If sticking to their guns makes them look like a complete idiot how could they not even consider it? Respect for those that stick to their guns anyways, love the passion, right or wrong.
I guess I should thank my ENTJ mother for giving me a sense of personal responsibility and NOT spoiling me. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong or if something is my fault. Great lecture, nice to know why you are so hard on my type.
Phew, my social influence is close to zero, I'm not competitive and have no interest being in politics (avoiding them as much as possible). Guess I'm not an attractive or useful target for social engineering. 😅
you’re brilliant 😭 when you brought up the blackmail situation i was like my first instact would be to freak out and find a way to do that person one over but your solution of being HONEST was so simple and straight and sensible like ong
@ 1:23:48 now. Interesting point about subconscious development helping to combat social engineering. I can also see an INFP to ESTJ subconscious cognitive transition helping to defend against a social engineering attack. For example, if someone is trying to exploit an INFP's Te inferior and the INFP quickly transitions to the Te Hero of the ESTJ subconscious, they will be able to block the attack. Similarly, if someone is trying to exploit the Si child's desire for comfort and the INFP quickly transitions into the subconscious ESTJ's Si parent, the manipulative gesture would not be as effective, and when the person transitions back to their INFP ego, the alarm will already have been sounded for the Ne parent to be aware of what the manipulative person is after.
Yes my views make me unpopular which bothers me on a subconscious level but it doesn’t change what I speak or believe. I can’t allow it to because that would make my internal life useless and void.
Frank James simply defended his beliefs though? He was still willing to see your perspective while maintaining his own, while you were insisting that your was is the right way.
You are quite the passionate speaker! I love it!!! I’m an INFP and I love diving deeper into my psyche and learning more about how my personality meshes with others! Thanks for sharing 🙏🏼✨
I always considered myself a quick minded and aware person. I just realized after finally getting away from an abusive marriage how weak minded I was. I have no identity, I was whatever my husband said I was, my mother before that. I only came to this realization about 2 weeks ago, and now today I hear from you that's a thing. It is so scary to know this about myself. I'm so grateful for Covid these days, as far as it gives me an excuse to not have to go out and deal with people!
but what if they are blackmailing you, but with things that aren't true, and people believe them anyway. What if you didn't do anything wrong. What if the only way to prove your truth involves others getting hurt.
@@peterjohnston2196 I'm healing. In a trauma recovery support group. It's a process. My mom and my ex still do all they can to throw me off course, but I'm stronger every day. They can ruin my day, but not my life anymore. Thank you for the good thoughts. I appreciate them!
INFP here, I'm at 1:09:51 when I wrote this comment bc what you said matched perfectly with my experience. I remember 3 years ago, when I was a (dumb) highschool freshman I participated in this debate where I had experience of "false normalcy". All other debaters were playing on this quite offensive joke and I, despite not getting the joke, went along thinking that it will make me fit into the social group more (or in other words, gain status). My debate coach stood up and pointed out how ridiculous the debate had became and criticized all of us, which made me realized that I had bought into the idea without questioning even though my internal value opposed, all because the fact that "I was fitting in with the rest" made me feel good and gained reputation. After the class ended, I apologized to the debaters and my coach, which made me felt really fulfilling, even better than when I was making the offensive joke. This video reminded me of this debate. After that, I started to look into myself more whenever I feel a new normalcy around me, and started utilize my Se to gain as much information from as much perspectives as possible to enrich and strengthen my inner value. I don't know if this is the best way to deal with "Stockholm syndrome" but this has been the way I deal with my weak Te. I think even though this video might not apply to all the INFPs out there, but I really do empathize with what you said. I want to be able to reflect on myself more and hopefully don't get easily manipulated as I once was😅. Sorry for my long comment and thank you for the video!
Frankly I became quite humble to a degree of "self-destructive" after that debate. Tearing down what I believe became something I enjoy doing. I loved the way you emphasized how it's important to be humble! Because that's what I tell myself everyday: to stay true and stay low.
I'm a Muslim and I'm not a spoiled infp so I see infj in me, the bad side of me I always used to suppress for the sake of Allah. I'm really grateful that I learned to understand that I need to take responsibility. It's like you litro gave me the answer to what I wanted to know but was not there. Thanks brother keep It up.
just started and I'm already rolling my eyes I mean come on, grow up guys people call you out on being too harsh on infps. I call that bullshit I never felt like you were exceptionally hard on me as an infp, I think you say what must be said Just as you mentioned in the delta quadra lecture if my type isn't corrected then we're gonna do some major damage to society there's nothing more dangerous than an enemy hidden as an angel, so yes, infp deserve any critisism they recieved from you and I trust your judgement
Im going to make a guess and say that you would have to work within the INFP's value system, either by convincing them that doing what you want is also what they want, or by shaming them into feeling they betrayed their values in some way. Since INFPs are idealistic, you might be able to plant a vision in their mind that they can focus on while you either set them up for failure or success. I've known many INFPs, both of which I've helped and have been cruel to (only because they were trying to force their ideals on others). Loved this series, CSJ. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
I believe I am an INFP, but it's hard to tell if anyone is the personality they think they are since there are so many gray areas and changing variables in each person. As an INFP that I believe I am, I don't think I relate to the phrase, "fake it till you make it." If I can't do it at the moment than I let people know that I can't do. Maybe I would be able to one day, but i want to be honest to myself and everyone and admit openly that I can't do it. I don't want to lie to myself and say I will fake it. I don't want to ask others to lie to themselves and fake things. I dislike lieing and dishonesty especially towards self because I know it will destroy myself on the inside nor do I want others to go through that knowing the experience. Maybe there are undeveloped INFP out there who haven't broke out of their shells and fake things. To be honest, I had gone through phrases in my life where I was so afraid of everyone of hurting my feelings that I hide myself. Maybe I was wearing a fake mask underneath, but it felt extremely terrible. I wasn't being myself. I wasn't able to express my own feelings. I wasn't happy. In a way, you are right, we INFP need more courage to face our fears, face the truth and break out of ourselves. Though, I believe we should have more faith in our fellow INFP to break out of themselves. We all make mistakes and we all have flaws, but at the same time, we are constantly learning and growing. It takes patience and understanding sometimes.
@ 1:29:13 social engineering a person for their own benefit can be called motivating them. Motivation has a more positive connotation than social engineering does and may be a word that would be more acceptable to some than the term social engineering.
This is the most helpful video I have listened to as an INFP. You have touched upon very specific interactions that I personally have had to deal with. Luckily no blackmail but complicated nuances in business relations and social settings. I have been silenced before by individuals with selfish immoral agendas. Your comments helps me see how they maneuvered this. I feel liberated and inspired. Thank you for creating it and taking the time to figure out us INFP’s. Also, thank you for reminding me that my voice is important. That I must not be lazy and not develop it. That I must not let it be controlled or silenced by people with selfish intentions.
Just discovered MBTI a few months ago and got classified as INFP. I noticed from an early age that I could easily be "swept up" in a direction. Luckily I have always had a mistrust in everyone and a need to "see things for myself" and verify everything to the degree I am able. After discovering the INFP type and reading about it, I very quickly came to the same conclusion that this type is very desirable for manipulation and can be a powerful weapon. P.S. I really appreciate the blunt talk. The world needs more of this.
I'm an INFP and you made me cry because I needed to find my purpose and truth and I am grateful I listened to this because I lost my voice and my morals and faith because someone hurt me really bad mentally and physically so much so I lost my mibd and almost my sanity where I had to go to a mental hospital. Its been 2yrs and I'm slowly coming back to myself and your lecture is helping me with this also. Thank you so very much. Much love!
If you're an INFP then you have some amazing thoughts... no, you have a billion amazing thoughts inside you. Just try to cherish them and those worlds within. Can you imagine how bleak the world would be without that inner world and the those sensitivities? And maybe you never lost your voice, you just got overwhelmed, which can happen easily to us... we take on and absorb so much of the world that others can't understand, it's like a fire hose to us sometimes while it it seems others could care less while gaining so much. But I have a feeling you know exactly who you are and always did, you're more authentic than most around you and they know it. Just find a few that appreciate it.
The camera and mic positioning and black shirt against the black background worked well in the video. Compliments to the person who came up with the idea to use this approach.
Thank you very much CJ Joseph for your content. It was powerful. I've learned so much. You gave me some tools to fight my biggest fears. Therefore, I can confront them instead of shying away from it. As an INFP, I will forever be grateful for sharing your knowledge about us in order for us to stand out in this hostile world. Everything you said resonate with me: the good, the bad and the ugly. But I got it: "The truth will set me free and verified all the information". Now, let's made an impact in the world.
Honestly, being manipulated is my biggest fear. I trust my gut feeling and gathering evidens thru reaccuring events. Also speak up if something feels strange/not okey, question why the person did/said that, explain why you didnt like it and how you want to be treated - and if the person doesnt want to listen to you/take in what youre saying/continues to do it anyway....then that person probebly doesnt respect you enough and will eventually make you feel like shit
I really appreciate your videos. And yes, you can be hard on INFP's, but you are correct. Especially when you mentioned the fact that we can get stuck. I've had that happen in my life and I just got to comfortable to change. It really helped me reflect on myself and realize that I need more self-discipline! Thanks! :)
Being harsh with infp makes us uncomfortable... And shocker... We don't like that and want to change. Sometimes that means we change the yt channel sometimes that means we change ourselves. 😂😂😂😂
I found Ron Paul in my early 20s and he made me think more, try and look behind what is being presented. Which has helped me not be fooled as often but it still happens. I just let fewer people in now a days.
Mr. C.S Joseph please do a video on how to read situations to know if an INFP is being manipulated I dated an ENTP and he was pretty much narcissistic, psychopath or sociopath, while family and friends mentioned how toxic he was I still believed in his core he was a good person.
PS Mr. C.S. Joseph you’re literally the only TH-camr who I truly believe and trust with your MBTI content because you speak the truth, regardless if it’s brutal so I just want to say I appreciate your work and please continue! Your videos have helped me tremendously in life and even helped me become a better entrepreneur! You go 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Idk if this helps, 3 years later lol... but as Cs joseph said... it just takes for us to feel good about a person and be comfortable with them to put a bias in them instead of the people who are clearly telling the truth... it happened to me And although a part of me wanted so bad to expose this abuser, and screw their reputation (Te inf) that was because I needed to set a truth in a external form, and people to believe me Cause if I just know something is truth but I keep it to myself with no external confirmation, I'm still able to doubt it, if MY truth matches with the reality outside... But at the end I ended up just crying it out with two supportive friends who validated my point of view, and I never came back to this person even if it was hard There was also a kind of pride in me in leaving this person... I thought that if I left them it was like now I was going to be the "bad guy" of this person's point of view that I so much valued as the truth... I cared way too much about this person's opinion and how they viewed me, and I made it my whole reality... (Ne weak absorbing Ni, Te weak absorbing Ti) and they just made me feel like a bad person every single day I really just needed support, someone who truly validated my feelings at that time, and time to adapt to something new And I think the key to prevent an INFP getting caught in abuse is to not be loyal (Si) or to attach itself with that one point of view of someone else (Ne following someone else's Ni blindly) Instead to experience things by themselves to widen their own perspective, and the value behind them
Alright I know I've been spamming comments but this is super uncanny. My ex used to speak highly of me and bought me Starbucks to get me to feel good about myself. This was before we actually became a pair and she used so many manipulative tactics that in hindsight I now see. It's been super eye opening how easily I was manipulated due to the fact that I had no sense of self. And she knew exatly what to say and do to control me. It's so crazy how you describe the exact nature of the toxic relationship I was in.
I feel you girlfriend! I thought I had everything figured out and WHAM. I've found out I manipulate people. It's not on purpose or with bad intentions usually I think...? So anyway, I'm maturing along with you and trying to get myself back out into the world again
"Enfjs, im going to fake understanding to get something out of you". Thank you chase for calling them out. Yet ENTJs get a bad rep for calling people out for bad decisions. Which one does a person really want???
@masakasama yes i dont understand this strange ENTJ behaviour (esp. when drunk) like they are trying to stab the Fi out of you... lead Fi feels like a handicap to me!
Chase, you taught us how to deal with a social engineering attack after it happened (like own up to it and humbly admit your own mistakes), but how can INFPs PREVENT themselves from being socially engineered in the first place? Prevention over cure right? I understand one of the ways is to harness the power of Se by mastering the superego, but most people can't get to that state maybe in their whole lives... So how can we protect ourselves? One way I can think of is to consciously never let Ne parent go to sleep no matter how comfy we are feeling, but that makes the INFP distrust everyone which goes against our nature and is exhausting...
@@CSJoseph I guess that includes indulging on fantasies? So you won't entertain social engineering attacks which promise you greatness without solid proof of how it works... Or stay in relationships that promise love but are actually abusive when you look at the facts :/ I think for INFPs, we have this dangerous tendency to choose our own narrative, i.e. selectively see good traits and build our own belief around that. It allows us to create a sort of "good feeling bubble" which filters out bad things and we choose to stay in it rather than face a painful reality :/ And the INFP may even be CONSCIOUS of it but keep doing it anyway... It's even more serious that the normalcy bias imo...
Truly enlightening, this video might have saved my life at some point through it. Despite initial aversion to your rather blunt and direct approach to issue, you have earned my and many other INFPs respect for it. Thank you.
I agree with you on Frank James. As an INFJ myself I don’t always feel I relate to his feelings. However, Wenzes’ vibe is the ultimate INFJ to me. She would understand me before I start speaking.
I'm guessing you dislike Fi because you're fi polr. Most first fis are very concerned about others as part of their value system. Knowing how one feels isn't selfish, it's self awareness.
Selfish is not about knowing how one feels, it's about not caring of how others feel, because you feels that their feelings is less important to you. That's is definition of selfish. Selfish in Fe terms has nothing to do with your self awareness about your feelings. It's about others, and you're blind to it.
@@honor9lite1337 and I'm an infp 9, I definitely care what other people feel and can usually tell what they feel. Fi doesn't mean you can't read others feelings. Fi with Ne reads others pretty well.
This has been such a valuable lesson. I'm deeply touched. A true reminder to always verify my beliefs and to embrace the truth as well as the gift of humility. The part where you talked about blackmail and shedding away that fear of what's going to happen to our status made me very emotional. You can clearly tell how much you care. It was very insightful, thank you for wording everything as you did.
Thank you for sharing your opinions. I realize that this is a delayed response following the creation of this.. but I just want to add (since we all have the capacity to learn and grow)... INFPs in fact do not care to oppose others opinions (if they know they are obsurd in nature - why waste the time?). In my opinion, social engineering revolves around 'social norms' which could be driven by insecurities (what underlying factors are there?). Am I 'selfish' if I do not see those influences valuable enough of my time? If you are tryping to manipulate or social engineer - why engage? Dear INFPs take this as a shared opinion - it is defniitely not a specialized science and it should not be taking personally. Once as I left a dinner with friends to workout they just couldn't believe that I was leaving to 'workout' because that's not a 'social norm'... but, it's highly healthy and definitely not selfish. I agree with his opinion - be selfish and do not let people dictate your actions (as long as they are healthy!).
Min 55- that same polyamory issue happened between my INFP boyfriend and his ENFJ ex. Fortunately, he eventually left her because he has a monogamous heart. And now he’s all mine! And I will never ever treat him that way. -ISTP
I’m grateful to have found your lectures at this point in my life. I’m keenly aware of not INFP’s but all human beings capacity to be manipulated. I’ve been deep diving into dark phycology, pimping, slavery, Machiavellian politics, and similar to see the common threads linking these controls over peoples. Even the harshest physical abuse used in the worst of these practices were physiological in their intended impact. We are stepping into a age where human social and phycological manipulations could very well become a reality, and combined with the power of AI and other technologies could become a very real threat to the sovereignty of the individual human experience. You said/referenced something the other day that stuck with me. “As long as men die men will always be free” Charlie Chapman, From the great dictator. Me MUST, build our resilience with intimate knowledge of our species along personal development and integrity. The human animal, a technically multi solar body planetary apex predator, with “super human” capabilities and cognitive capacities, seems to have been dumbed down into some form of domestic pet intended for labor of the shortsightedness rather than greatness we could achieve were we not restrained repeatedly. Thank you for what you do, you have been a sincere inspiration.
Thank you. My fiancée is an INFP and i am an INFJ. My desire for my partner is that he stop being so lazy. He is so gifted and very intuitive, but he only shares with me and not the world for fear of not being accepted and of being rejected. I want so badly to encourage if not manipulate him to use his insight, philosophies for more than to judge the world. Meanwhile he doesn’t take responsibility. How to encourage him to become more courageous!
That's okay CSJ most people don't like us. I think if I had to hang out with myself I might get on my own nerves...But it's hard to change...I really think I'm just hard wired this way.
As an INFP I grew up with a family of sensors & here's what I love & hate Dad ISTP: I still kinda find hard to follow & sorta dislike his blunt practical way of thinking but now I find interesting & willing to try it even if he's dismissing my feelings for a logical solution makes things easier in my life. I love when he shows me how to use tools (even if i get extreme anxiety using saws & hammers & maybe dropped some things or two that resulted in accidental injury) w/out the use of much math to help build furniture or any frame work or even setting up floors in the house. I used to get depressed with his insensitive additude towards life but now I find some freedom in it unless he takes a blind persons walking stick as a fun game of "Marko pollo" to get his stick back as an award or use substances for adrenaline. My younger sister ISFP: I dislike & get worried too much about her self esteem but getting her to do things that she likes, helped w/out illegal substances. I got used to my father so her blunt additude is not bad at all for my sensitivity. I find it quite charming & very inspiring to be around her & tells me bad habits I don't notice in myself & vice versa. My dad's gf ESFP: hate the drama attached to her, & get into drama I didn't even known I was in. But in the bright side she got me the motivation I needed to get to know people not for friends but just for the sake of fun. Got me to get into dance classes & made it feel okay to be with people but constantly have to deal with her mood swings & distractiveness but made me feel more confrontational. For my mom an INFP I have to be like an ENFJ all the time to get her to open up about her thoughts. The problem with this is that, growing up with my father made me less empathetic as time went on, I suppressed two main emotions, sadness & love. I will explode with rage when I'm sad & can't identify love anymore irl unless it's from a book (which I haven't read in 4 years)& has to be 3rd person POV or else real love is so boring. But I don't get it doesn't being in the moment get you in touch with those feelings? & I'm being less idealistic. I stopped trying to think so much too, intuition is starting to feel like a bad voice in my head instead rather than a wise one & makes me feel like mad like mom telling me I'm doing something wrong. Am I doing something wrong if at the same time I feel more happy than before?
This gentleman is extremely perceptive and brilliant, to be honest i had a even a tear. He is right about the INFP and most importantly, this is what I was looking for that TI is becoming the champion form for the INFP. I was just describing it, not long ago if you could not describe it Mr CS Joseph, but from what I can see you have materials about it on your private site. Great, maybe I'll be tempted after the payment to buy them. Thank you very much for your work, the INFPs really need help and you are certainly giving it to us. Fantastic preching.
Thanks for acknowledging that, given the right information INFPs have POWER! My sister always said I could talk the birds out of the trees….I need to tap into that potential…
This really made me feel cared for. I value the work you do for the world and how you show that you really do care about helping people. Thank you so much for this, i truly wish you the best.
What Chase is saying here about Humility being key for social reputation is true. I thought I was INFJ for a long time like Frank James, but once I accepted the truth, those on Chase’s channel appreciated me more. Please consider these words.
@@ginavega1892 Meanwhile, I've been typed as an infp for nearly a decade and I've been fighting that diagnosis at every step and every turn and am still unsure of myself even though almost every description and video and essay seems to have me pegged to a goddamn T. Learn that your experiences are not universal, even when speaking within your type.
Absolutely not. It's the complete opposite. Fi knows what it is and what it wants. INFPS know themselves. That's what Fi is. Ne doms tend to question what type they are the most.
This presentation is brilliant. So spot on about INFP weak points, and im saying that as one myself. im going to socially engineer myself with the threat of public shaming, which really just involves pulling my head out of my lazy ass and looking at reality. Thats a thing right, manipulating yourself ? Your brutal honesty is a great antidote
Yes, I also am trying to socially engineer myself on some major areas in my life now. Obviously, I think the best way to protect oneself from things like public shaming is to to not only be good in reputation but in real life, too. Obviously, no one is perfect but making sure my reputation and true self are one in the same seems a much more genuine idea than just always trying to persuade what others think about me. I never really realized how easily it would be for someone to manipulate me until I saw this. It definitely makes me think of all the possibilities in the future. And I want to come out okay if it ever happens:)
I question now if I am an INFP. Because I don't think like :"the truth is what the most people think... " I am more like the opposite. I think like "if everyone believes that- there might be a high risk for it to not be the truth."
As a fully actualized INFP (an oxymoron btw), I enjoy this. Cannot fathom me being social engineered. Humorous to even think about someone bringing me beyond my absolutes. Reading much, especially the Bible and the art of war. Learning how to sacrifice and lose is the winning way.Leading nothing. Controlling nothing. My joy is helping in the hidden ways. I enjoy your friction.
Gen X INFP here, and 30 mins in, I have no idea who you are talking about. All I know is that positive reinforcement works wonders IF the INFP is intrigued with the source. Although painfully simple, most ppl don't know how to do positive reinforcement anymore. The culture (or lack thereof) has become too narcissistic, too insular. I watch ppl on dates sit and text on their phones for almost the entire meal... So dismally rude that of course they don't know how to provide a positive stimulus to condition anyone, not even a lonely INFP. The reason why operant conditioning works is because when an INFP is reassured and feels recognized, they can achieve unbelievable success. It's like, finally, validation... And you'd be amazed at what that does for them creatively. But, as most ppl are far more selfish than the INFP you're calling selfish, during just general conversation alone, we don't even bother. Also, many INFPs have had to deal with narcissists. If a person actually attempts to understand an INFP, they will see INFPs readily admit to the damage. And, they admit to it even tho they know everyone is all, "Hey, don't be a victim, change the narrative... Blah, blah, blah, I spout bossy, self-important crap..." How about don't be a jerk? Maybe you'll evolve to become an INFP one day if you get out of that bossy mindset and actually listen to someone's wisdom. I can only spk for myself, but I can spot MK a mile off. I honestly can't understand what you're talking about, because I'm the one that goes against the group to point it out, even tho when eventually time and reality shows I was actually right, no one ever comes to me and acknowledges it. And, I already know they won't before I even think to mention it. But f groupthink. Sleep through black Friday, chemtrails are real, Epstein not only didn't kill himself he's under witness protection somewhere not on Google maps and is distracting everyone from far worse things going on... And, I reserve the right to change my mind on any of that should more information become available to the contrary. Very self-centered response, but if you're going to make such critical statements, the response will be personal, and that's not being selfish. That's called sharing. You're welcome. Edit: Ok, watched it up until questions, and after you FINALLY gave a personal example of what happened to you and that INFP prof, ok, I see where you're coming from. However, this warning does not apply to me, as funnily enough, I often use that quote, "The truth will set you free." The professor you mention... Did he never hear of cognitive dissonance? All that education, and he still didn't avoid that nasty pitfall? Also, your boss... Homelessness is not to be taken lightly... but without your standing up to him, would you be where you are today? The truth will set you free... Aren't you better off not working for him, even being homeless, than being under HIM as a master? Not all of us INFPs are weak flakes who are so easily corrupted. In fact, our values are so sacred no INFP worth their salt will give them up for some low end gutter tramp. I know there are those tho... But, they ought to be typed differently, imho.
@@CSJoseph , thank you... maybe? (I hate what happened to you because of that INFP and manipulator. Somebody should've been watching out for you.) You're asking if I could be INTP? Is that the question? I'm highly educated, (also highly stressed out atm) with an INTP mother (ISTJ father), so that may be the explanation. I learned my writing style from the INTP (which served well in academia), can wear 'masks' as needed, and have been communicating a lot with foreign T males for most of my adult life. I'm actually a high F and high P, I flips to E in certain situations. High IQ (believe it or not) also has something to do with it. Extreme interests in the arts, but who makes money from that in this world, so studied humanities (which is more of an art anyway). Have BS and MS (because I can do science, not because of T, but because of intelligence). Been talking to an ENTJ a lot recently, as well. Sorry, oversharing as usual. :/ Thanks for asking (if that's what you meant?).
We are very easily manipulated, for sure.. People only have to make us feel special for us to believe anything they say.. But also, how can I know you are not manipulating me into believing I am easily manipulated? 😂
NO. I can usually see past other's BS, especially aimed to harm myself, but I also see when someone's being shady in general with others, and people believe me when it's too late.
@@ninaj6051 It is easy to see when people are being shady, not so easy when they compliment you just to get advantage of you.. Like, in my job I had this colleague who was always complimenting me.. oh you are so fast, and you will be the boss one day, you are so competent, I love working with you.. And then when the boss came, she would tell her we both did the job, when I had had all the hard work.. It was really hard to confront her since I thought we were friends, and I just didn`t want to ruin the good work environment.. Thing is she was just manipulating me.. Once I started to stand up for myself she started talking sh*t about myself, for others, behind my back, basically ruining my reputation.. Thank God I don`t care about my reputation anymore.. Peopke are just so manipulative, I don`t know if you deal with people like this.. But it is very easy for me to fall for that, even CS Joseph is known to be manipulative, and I now can see some of that.. There are people on the internet, who worked for him, that say he`s tyranic..
@@dianadias3 I had something similar, mostly when someone wanted to get something from me. But, even a littlest of fakeness toward me turns me off, especially when I sense the connection is not genuine, as it lacks some fundamental components of human relatedness, and when it focuses on certain stuff, but ignores others that would be natural if it was real. Also, someone suddenly noticing me and "loving me so much" and stuff, out of nowhere is a huge warning sign, as I had those experiences in social settings when I was very young and it always hurt me so bad that I couldn't even process it properly. Especially as I analyzed them already and figured out they're leechees or narcissists or sociopaths who had tricked and have kept tricking so many people. For me, it was always due to my empathic and broad-minded, benevolent nature that believes all people are fundamentally good, or at least neutral, and always have potential for good no matter what which got me in trouble and sometimes seriously traumatized. Maybe so many INFPs being masochists and for example, following this guy is due to how it's generally socially acceptable to repress kindness and treat it as stupidity and pushing intellectual, cold logic as an ideal and feelings as a poison to it. Btw, compliments just for the sake of them are meaningless to me, especially when I don't see any reason for it when someone gives me that. I still like when I hear someone do it to me when it has some relevance within a specific context. Or I just can't let anyone control me at all, nor dare do it, as it insults me due to my highly individualistic nature.
@@ninaj6051 just very well Said. I'm becoming more and more aware of people`s intentions.. Basically most people are not genuine. And that`s okay.. I've Also been used for believing everyone is like me, everyone has good Will.. But that couldn't be further from The truth.. There is a of evil people out there, and still even The neutral ones are always a bit selfish to The point they Will not stand out for you if it Damages them. It is sad to live in a world like This . But at least we are aware of it now.. Yeah, I just don't know why people in MBTI just insult people who are feelers, Speacially introverted feelers.. And it is even gross when they know it is in out nature, it is was program
Ooo....ok so I'm six minutes in and asking myself whether you believe all that or saying it because you know perfectly well the exact way to get me to listen to criticism is to first tell me A. I'm brilliant and that my ideas are extremely important, B. If I'm not careful I might hurt everyone around me.
Me:
1. Debates with myself for 5 minutes straight about whether to stop watching on principle or give in to curiosity and let myself be manipulated.
2. Knows I'll still be curious even if I close the tab now.
3. Hits play.
4. Rationalizes: If I'm gonna be manipulated, may as well be by someone who's gonna show me how not to be manipulated.
Damn it.
Lol
Me😭
Let the endless doubt and self deprication begin
I saw this video 6 months ago and I thought that he was arrogant and a jerk, then because I needed to work on my ego I became more humble and now I get many lessons he is trying to give us.
@@zzulm well, im watching now and I think his ignorant and a jerk. But... his got a point!
I remember when I was a small kid, a girl caught me stealing strawberries from our neighbors' garden and blackmailed me that she will tell my parents and the neighbors. I was so scared, I had a reputation of a good girl, but I hated she got such power over me, so I went to my parents and told them myself that I was stealing and that I feel so bad about it. They told me they respect the sincerity and that they won't punish me, just told me never to do it again. I still remember that feeling of relief to this day ... I'm grateful for such valuable lesson at an early age, and I regret the times when I went against it to save my status, lost reputation is nothing compared to those moments in my life when I was a coward or too comfortable to stay true to myself, those moments will haunt me for the rest of my life
I love this.
This is crazy! I have almost the same story. I was 6 and the teacher sent me home one afternoon with a note to my parents. I don't remember why...most likely daydreaming and not paying attention in class. I was walking with a neighborhood kid (same age) and ripped the note up and threw it in the woods. Then the kid tried to blackmail me for candy...hall's cough drops lol! I was terrified and I felt horrible about it. Every hour I was full of maddening fear while waiting for the mess to hit the fan. But unlike you, I refused to tell on myself lol. I walked around on tiptoes and in slow motion, eyes darting to and fro, until the teacher finally called and I was confronted. And after my mom reamed me for embarrassing her by keeping her in the dark and making the teacher think she was raising a total weirdo...which I was lol! She forgave me. And THEN! I let out a sigh of relief. Funny thing is that I didn't tell my neighbor. So she asked me one day to give her something, and I said no. She said "If you don't give it to me, I'm gonna tell your mom about that note." I was like yeah she knows about that already, so yeah. lol
@@mikr2066 im a INFP, but I am different in this respect ... I always preferred to face the consequences than to lie and when they try to threaten me with my secrets I lose my fear of being criticized automatically and face people head on. I hate being controlled more than anything.
Such honesty then and now. It must be a torch to light you through the dark. Offering humility and courage to learn. It inspires me.
I love foundation stories and think those are especially important to INFP Type. Early reinforcement of good principles creates a solid foundation.
As an INFP I'm less worried about people's perception of me as I am of people having FALSE perceptions of me. I do not care if you think I'm weird (because I'm weird...) I care if you think that I'm lazy when I'm actually just struggling to function.
... sometimes I am extremely lazy!! Today if you called me lazy, i'd agree because I did nothing but sit on my phone XD
If you called me lazy for taking an Uber to the airport and preferring that my husband doed 90% of the driving, I would disagree because of my anxiety and my slow reaction time and the probability of me hurting myself or others behind the wheel.
Also, I don't think INFPs agree with something just because the majority feels the same way. infact, I think "devil's advocate" is our favorite game. Or at least I don't trust that the majority knows the truth anyway.....not that anyone does...unless you're psychic... But there's not a ton of evidence for the truth when the truth comes to you in indirect, dream like ways :/
I relate
I say it all the time - (as an INFP) I don't care if someone doesn't like me, so long as they understand me.
@@RabbitHoleDiaries EXACTLY
I don't like playing the devil's advocate. I try to see people's opinions but i don't really care at all.
@@zephdo2971 I hate it when people comment on my 4 year old comments because I have to reread it and ask, "what the hell was I talking about." Lol
A trick i've learned as an INFP is instead of saying "site your sources" say "explain your thought process behind this"
INFPs are the fastest readers of fiction. Since they read primarily for feeling they can read the same favorite book 10 times and still not tire of it because it produces the same feelings each time they read it.
@@ABC-jq7ve As an INTP it took me 10 months to read Lord of the Rings. It took my INFP wife 10 days. I will never read a book more than once unless it is the scriptures. My INFP wife has read her favorite Jane Austin and Bronte books 5 times or more. I only watch a movie once. She watches her exact same favorite Christmas movies every year. Socionics shows why this is so. When INFPs go on vacation they prefer to go to the same spot each year to relive the previous years happy vacation memories. As an INTP I do not prefer going to the same spot for vacation each year.
10 Gothic fic books in a month is true bliss
My sister is an ESTJ and also super quick at reading, could read Harry Potter books in like 2 days and read each one multiple times. Must be that INFP subconscious, cause she’s really into fiction. Or maybe it’s just something about that entire quadra
@@ShadowQuik The fastest readers are Te-Fi users. Why? Because they don't have their internal thoughts (Ti) to slow down the absorbing of other people's thoughts contained in the words on the page. Ti keeps slowing the reading down by analyzing whether the words are true or false. Fi-Te doesnt care about true or false. It accepts other people's thought's as they are without the filter of Ti. This works great for fiction because the word fiction actually means false in its latin form. And Fi cares about how words make one feel not whether it is based on truth. This makes Hollywood so dangerous. Because it can produce false happy feelings out of false principals that Ti can detect. For instance Hollywood is great at portraying premarital intimate relations without unwanted pregnancies or diseases. A strong Ti user would be more able to discern this and turn off the tube. My ISFJ mom would frequently turn off any "sleazy" TV shows in her words. So the Delta quadra are the fastest readers due to Te-Fi coupled with Si-En that prefers an imaginary world over their actual physical surroundings. But it comes at the price of not having the Ti filter of discernment of truth and not having Se to show what is actually real.
@@jaredvaughan1665 That's a great analysis, as a Ti/Fe user I've definitely always leaned towards being a slow reader, and yeah difficulty absorbing the thoughts of the author.
In fact that made me do poorly on the SAT's reading section, where you have to read short excepts and answer these comprehension questions. I guess when I picked an answer, I was like "that's not inconsistent with the text", but apparently I was wrong a lot of the time.
On the other hand higher Te users probably knew what the author was thinking when writing the excerpt, or perhaps even what the test-makers were thinking when they made the question, so as a result the correct answer was more obvious to them. That sense of "obviousness" is often not there to Ti it seems.
As an infp in my late teens I HATED the phrase "fake it till you make it" because if you just fake it then you are left with fake with no ability to make. This was after my early teens when I turned me demon inwards and destroyed the fantasies I had created around me and then I became hyperaware of my fact I could end up a useless member of society and despretly wanted to avoid this. But I did adopting a new phrase "fail till you succeeded". Because each time I failed, I failed less. There was growth and develop. And I can endure a lot of failure. understanding this has helped me a lot as I move forward in my education.
This is a really nice mindset
I agree. Face it till you make it is another good reframe.
I love that! Exactly what I do… it works!
If you "fake it till you make it” it’s only a matter of time until the truth will come out and will destroy your creation
cs j hates fake it till u make also or has said so in some videos... maybe its just a phrase i see it more like watch learn as you go. not so much fake but hey if you dont have the experience. public humiliation is easy own your mistakes and dont bullshit instead of humiliation you will instead get more respect
INFPs can be super shaped by their upbringing. If it wasn't for my ENFJ mom and ENTJ dad teaching me to get out of my comfort zone and verify everything, I don't know where I'd be.
If I didn't have my INFJ brother I feel like in the early stages of my life to the my late teens I would be less off the path that is structured.
Yes you are lucky in that way of having extroverted judging but still intuitive parents. My mom is an ISFJ and dad is an ESTP and my step dad is an ISTJ and my mom had very heavy Si. I am a INFP but a very practical and versatile one. I am also the only N in my family as both my siblings are SPs (ISFP brother and ESFP sister). Therfor I have found myself over-compensating for the lack of N around me growing up by ramping up and diving deep into my Ne and even using a ton of Ni at various periods in my life while traversing the shadowy terrain of my unconscious. I also have been forced to use a lot of Te to interact with my heavy S family because I have trouble using Si in an extroverted sense. Te is much easier for me to use and I've become so conditioned to using it that my INFJ girlfriend thinks I'm just an ISTJ with high Fi good development of N! I'm only 24 so I fully understand what you mean by this. Good point, thanks!
Don’t know what my mum was but she was the TOTAL opposite of me. Very verbally abusive…always told me I’d never amount to anything…affected my self esteem for many years.
I feel happy for you. But keep those of ur beliefs always updated.
So real. I grew up with dysfunctional split parents but thank god for my grandma and aunty’s they really pushed me out of my comfort zone.
This is how I (an INFP) like it. Straightforward and honest. No bullshit; no lies. Thank you for this video. I suddenly became conscious and more socially aware of what I do and how these things affect everyone around me and vice versa.
Listen you know yourself. This is not fool proof. We dont need to be social engineered. We feel real ish...period The only way we get manipulated is to not use our gut. Forget the mess people say out their throat.
@@tinyrockyplanet8953 he claims to be an ENTP, which means he has FI trickster which probably explains his bias
instablaster...
i'm very aware that I can be easily brainwashed... but at the same time i let myself be, to see how the person brainwashing/manipulating me will present themselves
What makes you think INFPs define the value of ideas or beliefs based on what the majority believes?
Fi is about personal values, finding them and upholding them despite what other people may think, say or do. It's inherently nonconformist. Coupled with Ne, even more so.
As an INFP, I've always questioned what the majority believes and does. It is natural to me. I feel the need to be authentic, so I analyze every common idea or behavior and see how I feel about it. Some times I found out I agree with what the majority of people believe, but many times I found out I disagree. And once I've decided, I don't care how many people disagree with me, I will change my mind only if, by using Ne and Te, I see that my belief is not based on enough data, it's black-or-white, impractical or whatever. My own thoughts and ideas are constantly under my scrutiny.
Also, truth and objectivity are very important to me, due to inferior Te concerns about my Fi values not being based on objective facts, and thus, biased and an easy target for criticism.
Maybe poorly developed INFPs in a Si loop may use Si to justify holding onto a nonsensical belief and avoid to use Ne to see that they may be wrong. But believing somethig is true just because most other people believe it is? That would be weird for an INFP.
Have you verified if you are an INFJ or not?
@@flipperishheart6516 nothing wrong with me asking the question. I do not see how this is gaslighting. Asking questions for the purpose of verification does not equate to gaslighting. Do you even read what you write?
C.S. Joseph there's no way I'm an INFJ. Ni is a foreign concept to me. I see myself using more or less consciously all of the INFP functions. So, what about it? It seems to me you either have some bias against the INFP type, or that you don't understand it and your knowledge is actually just a collection of anecdotes and stereotypes. Or both.
INFP: YAAASSSS!
YEAH! I literally have told myself on several occasions "damn, it'd be hard to brainwash me." when other people around me were expressively getting inspired or buying whatever was being told.
Examples that I can think of rn:
Mostly religious sermons (both from the sect I was born in and the fairly opposite one). I know it's a typical example, but your pastor example brought it up in my mind.
I ask unexpected questions in both intimate settings or even in the classroom/conferences etc. (not forgetting to myself as well).
I'm new to this model, but I've always gotten INFP as the result. A 4w5 on Enneagram one.
What am I missing?
I watch you BECAUSE you are the most “harsh” on my type. Gotta stop drinking the kool-aid.
featherfoothiker except most of what he says is only based anecdotes and stereotypes.
@@luisa146 yeah sure but doesn't mean there are infps like me who can't understand that when you're speaking to a large audience it's best to take this with a grain of salt because generalizing is best than to have an individual point of view since he's not talking about all of us so he has to generalize so he can get his main point across which is : how to social engineer INFPs in this case mostly immature INFPs
I swore my infp mom made this comment. I had to check your channel to see if it was her 😂
Masochistic. Typical
masakasama u r a one smart guy
Honestly I was slowly losing interest in MBTI because I was tired of my type being portrayed as a 10 y/o child (I was also tired of being answered 'Oh, you must be INTJ then' if I objected). Really satisfied of the complex, dispassionate quality of your content. Keep up the good work!
much appreciated
Me too. From an infp.
why am i mad at enfjs nothing even happened yet😂
INFPs are a lot more rebellious then you’re giving them credit for. The “scale” metaphor didn’t resonate with me... they’re very willing to go again the majority if it aligns with their personal beliefs
Truth...thats about the only time I rise to the occasion and pull myself out of my shell, but Lord help the person, who crosses that moral line.
Absolutely!
The problem I think is to accept where I might have gone wrong, accept it, get newer better information and move on. It takes a lot of personal discipline to try to do this, I struggle.
Personal values* which creates those personal beliefs
An INFP who bases their principles on Jesus Christ always have a safe anchor point and do in fact prevent themselves from being mind controlled.
I sometimes do wonder if his repeation of "INFPs, being the most brilliant of all types and the ones with truly the most important opinions" is, at least in the exaggerated form it's executed, a form of Social Engineering in itself; for a good cause at the very least.
That shall make It quite interesting
I know exactly what you mean
Yeah I think a lot of how he words things is social engineering -- for the greater good. But to be honest I've always been suspicious of compliments. So whenever he says that, a big part of me is wondering if he's trying to trick me somehow -- kind of like a Siren's Song.
@Hannah RJ: So, you're saying he's intending to develop the very sense of Stockholm Syndrome (in the Collective (Un)conscious of INFP's) he mentions in this very video?
@Hannah RJ:
Ah.
You must've read these:
In Sheep's Clothing, Somebodies & Nobodies, & Games People Play..?
@Hannah RJ *Books
If any other type lived in our bodies, they'd be saying "how do I process all these emotions?" Years and years of learning, lol.
True
what if frank james worked on his INFJ handicaps and by doing so is seen as an INFP to the outside world.
his method of decisions could still be still INFJ , but trained himself to now execute those decisions with a self actualised discernment.
judging his judgements.
( maybe watch a few of his early videos , instead of those where he is being interviewed, the very nature of a for public interview requires a personality to be guarded, and by extension not entirely appropriate as a definitive assessment of character )
i have no criticism of your style, i think your super sharp and on target.
but i feel perhaps something some how, was lost in translation in your frank james assessment.
as an INFP i'm always telling a INFJ to fake it till they make it. lol
only cause it kills me when they become so distraught over something as easy as ' just change your mind '
also if frank james ask to do a podcast with him, it's likely because he has watched your videos, appreciates sincerely your brilliance and has learned from your 'school'
not because he read a top ten list or summer one told him to.
i regret the very few times when my ego got in under the radar and in my way
@@antonyka-pra-ra
lol. 'just change your mind' is mission impossible to immature INFJ, they reject concrete facts out of hand, literally won't even LOOK at them if 'something works for them' They only seem interested in concrete truth rather than 'perspectives' if it would provision them with something they want.
INFP kick off at CS analysis because he labels their motivations as status driven when that's actually only the case for immature INFP. Mature INFP are already so often misunderstood, their unorthodox voices and way of being, ignored and rejected, so we're understandably worried this will lead to even more dismissal of both ourselves and the kind of philosophy we know could help change the world for the better.
To clarify, If you're 'angelic' INFP, your motivation is problem solving/warning others to save them/the world from damage, NOT status.
I've seen plenty of immature INFP who noticeably concerned with status and yes, they have the capacity to be extremely manipulative, selfish and immoral, so yeah, different maturity levels of INFP can be like night and day
Just think of it this way. When sensory perception is strong, ALL feelings run hot right? That's a powerful thing and dependant on underlying biology and how you develop yourself, you could either become a master of those feelings, you could have excessive mirror neurons that make you responsive to others pain, you could thus become, so incredibly careful of your own and others feelings, mapping yourself and everyone out to that end and developing cognitive empathy to complement your natural affective empathy, OR, you just take the easy route and avoid anything that feels bad (work) and indulge in anything that makes you feel good (sex, admiration,status).
If you don't learn to master your 'power', you could end up overwhelmed by it, go full Jean Gray and destroy the whole damn world.
Mature INFP are the literal opposite, of immature INFP. They deny their wants unless their is moral justification. Angelic INFP would be very unlikely to sleep around for instance, and are absolutely willing to become social pariahs to defend principles that MUST be defended for the good of humanity. They have developed insight to the point they can predict patterns of behaviour, so can forsee results if they were to fail to intervene and 'mentor' people into better patterns of behaviour.
I'd say mature NFJ more easily provide clarity re perspectives of others, wheras NFP are more concerned with and more easily provide insight into, how people SHOULD perceive/be.
Despite their mapping of others, even mature INFP are at risk of being conned by others if they're not careful, because they tend to HOPE people are good, or responding to their mentoring/ becoming 'better', to the point they put an overly positive slant on what they observe in people. That's something I'm learning to check myself for more as I get older. Every single time I err on the side of best case scenario, when I've seen a red flag, I've regretted it.
Its hard to tell INFP from INFJ, but generally I can differentiate the two types by a few key things.
INFJ will have a more organised and fluent way of presenting their arguments/opinions verbally. INFPs will go off on more tangents.
INFP are more likely to write poetically, thoug both will often write poetry, INFP poetry will tend to be more passionate or emotional, symbolic and concise. INFJ poetry tends to be more sentimental, verbose, often focusing more on themes/things/scenes, uses more similes rather than symbolism.
There's something more robotic in the way INFJ think, present and articulate is the only way I can explain it.
Being sensitive, health wise, INFP are also more likely to suffer migraine, (caused by overstimulated brain). Many seem to be diagnosed with high functioning autism. Mature INFP will often have autoimmune issues triggered by psychological/physical stress.
All INFP are more likely to appear lazy UNLESS motivated to serve others or a greater good. Being overly stimulated by default, they burn through energy reserves by default and they can be easily stressed, so they're usually looking to delegate physical tasks to conserve energy. It's a nuanced issue.
Mature INFP will rally when they need to, to avoid burdening others and to help others, but immature tend to be parasitic.
Where it gets tricky, is that mature INFP can become physically ill due to pushing past their energy/biological capabilities and feel terrible guilt for feeling lazy, when they're not.
That's when INFPs start researching and sharing health information along with the politics 😏
These are all the things I've noticed. Don't know if anyone else has observed these nuances too?
@@bethmaiden2621 i'm an INFP in a relationship with an INFJ
and yes , all that you've stated is on point - aside perhaps from the immature parasite, i can't really say since as long as i can recollect i've been curious enough about anything to eagerly throw my hands into 'help'
usually too much but of course that line is relative.
on the rare occasions if i didn't feel like it, then it absolutely wasn't going to happen. If i did /do, no task was/is ever to daunting nor herculean.
what i wish i knew long ago was that i should have never felt everyone 'thought' the same and were 'smarter' than i. when i realized this (much too late) everything finally made 'sense' and certainly made life so much easier. ie how an illogical mind works and what parameters must be kept to. A slow go handicap ramp is better for all involved then the hoist drag and carry.
can't wait to hear how naive and easily swayed I am when someone appeals to my feeeeelings
edit: I'm just kidding Mr. C.S. Joesph, the video "How Do INTPs Compare To INFPs?" definitely clued me in to how much you respect INFPs. All jokes aside, I'm very excited for this video because I have zero doubts as to how fantastic it'll be!
Idk if that's normal but i really hate how i care about "my reputation"
That's because of the inferior Te i believe.
This one's gonna get dark.
I value criticism because I see what sticking your head in the sand does to people. My mother is an ENFP and she is the epitome of depravity. She manipulates, lies, and gaslights everyone and then twists the situation so she comes out as a victim. If we tell her she's hurting us, or she's lying to us she screams at us and tells us we're attacking her.
My INFJ sister-in-law took me in and taught me everything my mother never did: manners, personal hygiene, and having a sense of duty. I couldn't have done it if she didn't criticise me. As an INFP, I could have easily turned out like my mother and I am so thankful I'm not.
I no longer have contact with my mother and it's from your advice CS Joseph. Get the losers out of your life!
@@LuanZeqiri1 I'm sorry but the one who raised me was my sister-in-law. I'm not going to give respect to someone just because they gave birth.
I know your heart is in the right place but my family didn't cut her off for small reasons. It was a hard decision for all of us.
@@LuanZeqiri1 No it's quite alright :)
Yeah enfp's can be pretty trashy
I didn't know INFPs were so important. It's kind of scary that we have that much power, according to what you say about us.
But, I mostly watch these videos so I can overcome the flaws of my typing
Hello C.S. Joseph,
For years I was sure I was an INFJ. Your videos about INFJs made sense to me, even touched me. But I have come to realize I am an INFP! Everything makes so much more sense. I remember at one time I brought out the idea of me being INFP and my friends who are all Fi/Te users said I was INFJ and gave me “evidences” for the reason being which were mere experiences and stereotypes. They were not facts (Ti). Tests I would take would give me results that I am INFJ and I would believe it, now realizing I never verified the tests. This explains so much why I would have a hard time understanding my fellow ENFP and INFPs. I didn’t understand how I as an “INFJ” was the perfect match for them bc I viewed them as SO FAKE and could see through their manipulation! I didn’t understand why I was so drawn to ENFJs and most of my loyal friends are INTJs and ENTJs. It didn’t make sense as an INFJ so I watched a video from Frank James’ channel about the difference between INFJ and INFP Ha! and got even more confused of course and doubted myself that maybe I am actually INFJ? Bc the advice he was giving I could obviously relate to. Something seemed off. But I’m glad you clarified that he’s an INFP bc it makes SO much more sense now. I can clearly see it and the difference! Your INFP virtue and vice video was also spot on especially about over praising us and then we’ll blame the other for setting us for failure. My status conscious ESTJ mom manipulated/used me to gain approval from our community and I loved it at the time bc I was also getting viewed highly. I was so unaware that I was getting manipulated. I had so much influence over the community and my mom definitely knew it. She used me to get rid of those who she didn’t like and change the entire social dynamic of the community. I had no idea what was happening bc I thought everything was good bc I was feeling “good”. When I finally matured, humbled myself, became true, and left, I realized I was succumbed to group think and my mom had set me up for failure. And to this day, I still blame and despise her. I HATE when I get constant praise bc it gets into my head, I get too comfortable and then I get LAZY! I had an ENTP male friend once who would never praise me when others did and thought he was either rude or jealous. But he was the only one doing me a favor!
I have thought about getting a typing session from you a while ago when I was doubting my type but it was a bit pricey for me. But now I know why and I appreciate what you charge bc you are the VERY FEW who tells the TRUTH. You have some valuable knowledge. I want to thank you so much for criticizing(not in a negative connotation) us INFPS and then building us back up bc we INFPs definitely need it.
*Now I’m having hard time finding good videos and articles about INFPs bc most are misinformed and incredibly shallow stuff.
Are you an INFP or not dear? Goodness dear! all those ramblings! 😂. Me, a hurting and cruel INFP. Take it with humour darling.😂😂😂
OMG, he mentioned John Locke as possibly being INFP. Most people haven't even heard of Locke. I always connected with Locke's ideas and am INFP...this guy is goood...
Sorry John Locke was INTP. Close though.
@@jaredvaughan1665 man i thought i had already resolved the am i infp or intp debate. now you make me doubt myself.
@@geriatricward The fact that me telling you the truth made you feel so bad proves you are INFP. Congratulations you now know your type! My wife is an INFP. You guys are good people. I'm sure you are good too since for an INFP being good is more important than knowing the truth. Take care.
@Jared: Wait. I thought Knowing (& operating from) the Truth *is* what makes one "good" (or whatever).
Elucidate?
@@dolfdervish8495 Ever hear the expression "the road to hell is sometimes paved with good intentions?" So you can have good intentions but be harming someone. Like a doctor who misdiagnosis and gives a bad prescription that was meant to help but actually harms. Or a parent that cleans all of their teanager's messes that causes them to be lazy.
The more he talks the more confused I get. I am not one to follow the thoughts of the masses, once I have drawn a conclusion, and incorporated it as a value. I may let you think you have swayed me over, by not arguing my point, but thats because I will let you be you, even though I know your wrong.
On another note as I'm listening to this, I would say that infp can be susceptible to groupthink when they are not totally comfortable with themselves due to the need of being accepted. However, I infps are naturally individualistic when they learn to accept themselves and know who they are.
I agree.
Exactly!!! This is not fool proof
Ahh, no.. Even very confident INFP are susceptives of group thinking..
It takes real courage for INFP s to confront people, or saying they dont agree.. They dobit only for things who won`t damage their reputation.. But if it damages their reputation, it in very difficult for them.
@@dianadias3 WTF? Don't agree at all. It's about loneliness and getting shunned by others like yall already do!
No INFPs are still susceptible to group think either way
Thank you for being harsh on us INFPs. We really need it.
its why I do it
Amen
on god
the uhhh... infjs feel like robotic machine who just procress data and are souless husks was so true even Si demon felt it damm
As an infp I don’t actually accept the standard narrative cuz everyone believes it’s true I actually challenge most of which ppl believe is true and tend to reject collective beliefs if they aren’t objectively true .. hmm but maybe that’s because I’ve been burned by following or accepting popular opinion which never felt right
Same like I cannot imagine anyone ever blackmailing me or selling me bs. I care way too much about the truth. It’s literally my foundation. I can’t think of a single thing about myself that I would not willingly expose to people and just deal with the aftermath. I refuse to be controlled. I thought we care more about authenticity. The idea that we are susceptible to groupthink and blackmail is just a totally foreign concept to me.
@@kalinjax Agreed
Okay, I'm an INFP and I just have to say, I love driving 🤷
#same
Weird that’s a personality thing cuz me too
Same...but as I get older I get more critical of all the other 'bad' drivers.
It’s because you got comfortable
I always wanted a driver.
As an INFP, who listens to how they feel to make decisions, I def agree about the FDA approved stuff! I hate when people say its good because some organization said it was. Like bloodletting was considered good so. Ugh people. Hahah.
INFP won't go with group think if the group is going against the INFP's moral code. We will risk how people see us to maintain our own moral code.
Won't they? To protect their inferior? If sticking to their guns makes them look like a complete idiot how could they not even consider it? Respect for those that stick to their guns anyways, love the passion, right or wrong.
I guess I should thank my ENTJ mother for giving me a sense of personal responsibility and NOT spoiling me. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong or if something is my fault. Great lecture, nice to know why you are so hard on my type.
Phew, my social influence is close to zero, I'm not competitive and have no interest being in politics (avoiding them as much as possible). Guess I'm not an attractive or useful target for social engineering. 😅
'Socially engineer' seems to be a euphemism for manipulate, in case anyone was wondering.
I find it actually refreshing to hear a "harsher" take on infps. I appreciate someone not being shy about what are the common/potential problem areas.
you’re brilliant 😭 when you brought up the blackmail situation i was like my first instact would be to freak out and find a way to do that person one over but your solution of being HONEST was so simple and straight and sensible like ong
@ 1:23:48 now. Interesting point about subconscious development helping to combat social engineering. I can also see an INFP to ESTJ subconscious cognitive transition helping to defend against a social engineering attack. For example, if someone is trying to exploit an INFP's Te inferior and the INFP quickly transitions to the Te Hero of the ESTJ subconscious, they will be able to block the attack. Similarly, if someone is trying to exploit the Si child's desire for comfort and the INFP quickly transitions into the subconscious ESTJ's Si parent, the manipulative gesture would not be as effective, and when the person transitions back to their INFP ego, the alarm will already have been sounded for the Ne parent to be aware of what the manipulative person is after.
As an infp preaching my philosophy actually ends up lowering my status and I try my best to base what I feel on actual truth
Yes my views make me unpopular which bothers me on a subconscious level but it doesn’t change what I speak or believe. I can’t allow it to because that would make my internal life useless and void.
Frank James simply defended his beliefs though? He was still willing to see your perspective while maintaining his own, while you were insisting that your was is the right way.
You are quite the passionate speaker! I love it!!! I’m an INFP and I love diving deeper into my psyche and learning more about how my personality meshes with others! Thanks for sharing 🙏🏼✨
I always considered myself a quick minded and aware person. I just realized after finally getting away from an abusive marriage how weak minded I was. I have no identity, I was whatever my husband said I was, my mother before that. I only came to this realization about 2 weeks ago, and now today I hear from you that's a thing. It is so scary to know this about myself. I'm so grateful for Covid these days, as far as it gives me an excuse to not have to go out and deal with people!
but what if they are blackmailing you, but with things that aren't true, and people believe them anyway. What if you didn't do anything wrong. What if the only way to prove your truth involves others getting hurt.
@@justglitter It sounds like someone still had their hooks in you when you wrote this. I hope things are better now.
@@peterjohnston2196 I'm healing. In a trauma recovery support group. It's a process. My mom and my ex still do all they can to throw me off course, but I'm stronger every day. They can ruin my day, but not my life anymore. Thank you for the good thoughts. I appreciate them!
INFP here, I'm at 1:09:51 when I wrote this comment bc what you said matched perfectly with my experience.
I remember 3 years ago, when I was a (dumb) highschool freshman I participated in this debate where I had experience of "false normalcy". All other debaters were playing on this quite offensive joke and I, despite not getting the joke, went along thinking that it will make me fit into the social group more (or in other words, gain status).
My debate coach stood up and pointed out how ridiculous the debate had became and criticized all of us, which made me realized that I had bought into the idea without questioning even though my internal value opposed, all because the fact that "I was fitting in with the rest" made me feel good and gained reputation. After the class ended, I apologized to the debaters and my coach, which made me felt really fulfilling, even better than when I was making the offensive joke.
This video reminded me of this debate. After that, I started to look into myself more whenever I feel a new normalcy around me, and started utilize my Se to gain as much information from as much perspectives as possible to enrich and strengthen my inner value. I don't know if this is the best way to deal with "Stockholm syndrome" but this has been the way I deal with my weak Te.
I think even though this video might not apply to all the INFPs out there, but I really do empathize with what you said. I want to be able to reflect on myself more and hopefully don't get easily manipulated as I once was😅.
Sorry for my long comment and thank you for the video!
Frankly I became quite humble to a degree of "self-destructive" after that debate. Tearing down what I believe became something I enjoy doing. I loved the way you emphasized how it's important to be humble! Because that's what I tell myself everyday: to stay true and stay low.
I'm a Muslim and I'm not a spoiled infp so I see infj in me, the bad side of me I always used to suppress for the sake of Allah. I'm really grateful that I learned to understand that I need to take responsibility. It's like you litro gave me the answer to what I wanted to know but was not there. Thanks brother keep It up.
just started and I'm already rolling my eyes
I mean
come on, grow up guys
people call you out on being too harsh on infps. I call that bullshit
I never felt like you were exceptionally hard on me as an infp, I think you say what must be said
Just as you mentioned in the delta quadra lecture if my type isn't corrected then we're gonna do some major damage to society
there's nothing more dangerous than an enemy hidden as an angel, so yes, infp deserve any critisism they recieved from you and I trust your judgement
Masha Allah. Love this comment. especially the 'enemy hidden as an angel'. How I feel too.
@@SM-gx3ho
Baraka allah fik
Thank you for supporting my thoughts too😁
Supporting your and others self-hatred no matter what? Truly commendable and impressive... :|
me: what are you doing.
my infp bf: if ur shirt is not tucked into ur pants then does that mean ur pants are tucked into ur shirt?
More of an INTP statement
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lol
Im going to make a guess and say that you would have to work within the INFP's value system, either by convincing them that doing what you want is also what they want, or by shaming them into feeling they betrayed their values in some way. Since INFPs are idealistic, you might be able to plant a vision in their mind that they can focus on while you either set them up for failure or success. I've known many INFPs, both of which I've helped and have been cruel to (only because they were trying to force their ideals on others).
Loved this series, CSJ. Keep up the good work 👍🏻
I believe I am an INFP, but it's hard to tell if anyone is the personality they think they are since there are so many gray areas and changing variables in each person.
As an INFP that I believe I am, I don't think I relate to the phrase, "fake it till you make it." If I can't do it at the moment than I let people know that I can't do. Maybe I would be able to one day, but i want to be honest to myself and everyone and admit openly that I can't do it. I don't want to lie to myself and say I will fake it. I don't want to ask others to lie to themselves and fake things. I dislike lieing and dishonesty especially towards self because I know it will destroy myself on the inside nor do I want others to go through that knowing the experience.
Maybe there are undeveloped INFP out there who haven't broke out of their shells and fake things. To be honest, I had gone through phrases in my life where I was so afraid of everyone of hurting my feelings that I hide myself. Maybe I was wearing a fake mask underneath, but it felt extremely terrible. I wasn't being myself. I wasn't able to express my own feelings. I wasn't happy.
In a way, you are right, we INFP need more courage to face our fears, face the truth and break out of ourselves.
Though, I believe we should have more faith in our fellow INFP to break out of themselves. We all make mistakes and we all have flaws, but at the same time, we are constantly learning and growing. It takes patience and understanding sometimes.
@ 1:29:13 social engineering a person for their own benefit can be called motivating them. Motivation has a more positive connotation than social engineering does and may be a word that would be more acceptable to some than the term social engineering.
This is the most helpful video I have listened to as an INFP. You have touched upon very specific interactions that I personally have had to deal with. Luckily no blackmail but complicated nuances in business relations and social settings. I have been silenced before by individuals with selfish immoral agendas. Your comments helps me see how they maneuvered this. I feel liberated and inspired. Thank you for creating it and taking the time to figure out us INFP’s. Also, thank you for reminding me that my voice is important. That I must not be lazy and not develop it. That I must not let it be controlled or silenced by people with selfish intentions.
Just discovered MBTI a few months ago and got classified as INFP. I noticed from an early age that I could easily be "swept up" in a direction. Luckily I have always had a mistrust in everyone and a need to "see things for myself" and verify everything to the degree I am able. After discovering the INFP type and reading about it, I very quickly came to the same conclusion that this type is very desirable for manipulation and can be a powerful weapon.
P.S. I really appreciate the blunt talk. The world needs more of this.
I'm an INFP and you made me cry because I needed to find my purpose and truth and I am grateful I listened to this because I lost my voice and my morals and faith because someone hurt me really bad mentally and physically so much so I lost my mibd and almost my sanity where I had to go to a mental hospital. Its been 2yrs and I'm slowly coming back to myself and your lecture is helping me with this also. Thank you so very much. Much love!
If you're an INFP then you have some amazing thoughts... no, you have a billion amazing thoughts inside you. Just try to cherish them and those worlds within. Can you imagine how bleak the world would be without that inner world and the those sensitivities?
And maybe you never lost your voice, you just got overwhelmed, which can happen easily to us... we take on and absorb so much of the world that others can't understand, it's like a fire hose to us sometimes while it it seems others could care less while gaining so much.
But I have a feeling you know exactly who you are and always did, you're more authentic than most around you and they know it. Just find a few that appreciate it.
Couldnt help but roll my eyes when you said XNFPs can be the most important type-INFP lol.
He's social engineering u. Lol
@@soulfulspec aka MANIPULATING
Video is 100 minutes long
*takes a deep, shakey breath
I lost interest after skipping ahead to the 29 minute mark.
The camera and mic positioning and black shirt against the black background worked well in the video. Compliments to the person who came up with the idea to use this approach.
i stumbled upon it with experimentation.
@@CSJoseph Nice.
Thank you very much CJ Joseph for your content. It was powerful. I've learned so much. You gave me some tools to fight my biggest fears. Therefore, I can confront them instead of shying away from it.
As an INFP, I will forever be grateful for sharing your knowledge about us in order for us to stand out in this hostile world. Everything you said resonate with me: the good, the bad and the ugly. But I got it: "The truth will set me free and verified all the information". Now, let's made an impact in the world.
Dope
Honestly, being manipulated is my biggest fear. I trust my gut feeling and gathering evidens thru reaccuring events. Also speak up if something feels strange/not okey, question why the person did/said that, explain why you didnt like it and how you want to be treated - and if the person doesnt want to listen to you/take in what youre saying/continues to do it anyway....then that person probebly doesnt respect you enough and will eventually make you feel like shit
I really appreciate your videos. And yes, you can be hard on INFP's, but you are correct. Especially when you mentioned the fact that we can get stuck. I've had that happen in my life and I just got to comfortable to change. It really helped me reflect on myself and realize that I need more self-discipline! Thanks! :)
Being harsh with infp makes us uncomfortable... And shocker... We don't like that and want to change.
Sometimes that means we change the yt channel sometimes that means we change ourselves.
😂😂😂😂
I found Ron Paul in my early 20s and he made me think more, try and look behind what is being presented.
Which has helped me not be fooled as often but it still happens. I just let fewer people in now a days.
Mr. C.S Joseph please do a video on how to read situations to know if an INFP is being manipulated
I dated an ENTP and he was pretty much narcissistic, psychopath or sociopath, while family and friends mentioned how toxic he was I still believed in his core he was a good person.
PS Mr. C.S. Joseph you’re literally the only TH-camr who I truly believe and trust with your MBTI content because you speak the truth, regardless if it’s brutal so I just want to say I appreciate your work and please continue! Your videos have helped me tremendously in life and even helped me become a better entrepreneur! You go 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Idk if this helps, 3 years later lol... but as Cs joseph said... it just takes for us to feel good about a person and be comfortable with them to put a bias in them instead of the people who are clearly telling the truth... it happened to me
And although a part of me wanted so bad to expose this abuser, and screw their reputation (Te inf) that was because I needed to set a truth in a external form, and people to believe me
Cause if I just know something is truth but I keep it to myself with no external confirmation, I'm still able to doubt it, if MY truth matches with the reality outside...
But at the end I ended up just crying it out with two supportive friends who validated my point of view, and I never came back to this person even if it was hard
There was also a kind of pride in me in leaving this person... I thought that if I left them it was like now I was going to be the "bad guy" of this person's point of view that I so much valued as the truth...
I cared way too much about this person's opinion and how they viewed me, and I made it my whole reality...
(Ne weak absorbing Ni, Te weak absorbing Ti) and they just made me feel like a bad person every single day
I really just needed support, someone who truly validated my feelings at that time, and time to adapt to something new
And I think the key to prevent an INFP getting caught in abuse is to not be loyal (Si) or to attach itself with that one point of view of someone else (Ne following someone else's Ni blindly)
Instead to experience things by themselves to widen their own perspective, and the value behind them
Alright I know I've been spamming comments but this is super uncanny. My ex used to speak highly of me and bought me Starbucks to get me to feel good about myself. This was before we actually became a pair and she used so many manipulative tactics that in hindsight I now see. It's been super eye opening how easily I was manipulated due to the fact that I had no sense of self. And she knew exatly what to say and do to control me. It's so crazy how you describe the exact nature of the toxic relationship I was in.
We've all been there.. you're not alone . hugs and healing to you
Just wanna learn how to social engineer myself! Not mature enough yet!
I feel you girlfriend! I thought I had everything figured out and WHAM. I've found out I manipulate people. It's not on purpose or with bad intentions usually I think...?
So anyway, I'm maturing along with you and trying to get myself back out into the world again
"Enfjs, im going to fake understanding to get something out of you". Thank you chase for calling them out. Yet ENTJs get a bad rep for calling people out for bad decisions. Which one does a person really want???
An ENFJ has been doing that to me an INFP for months! And recently broke my heart.
@masakasama yes i dont understand this strange ENTJ behaviour (esp. when drunk) like they are trying to stab the Fi out of you... lead Fi feels like a handicap to me!
Chase, you taught us how to deal with a social engineering attack after it happened (like own up to it and humbly admit your own mistakes), but how can INFPs PREVENT themselves from being socially engineered in the first place? Prevention over cure right? I understand one of the ways is to harness the power of Se by mastering the superego, but most people can't get to that state maybe in their whole lives... So how can we protect ourselves? One way I can think of is to consciously never let Ne parent go to sleep no matter how comfy we are feeling, but that makes the INFP distrust everyone which goes against our nature and is exhausting...
Don't indulge or give yourself over to indulgence.
@@CSJoseph I guess that includes indulging on fantasies? So you won't entertain social engineering attacks which promise you greatness without solid proof of how it works... Or stay in relationships that promise love but are actually abusive when you look at the facts :/ I think for INFPs, we have this dangerous tendency to choose our own narrative, i.e. selectively see good traits and build our own belief around that. It allows us to create a sort of "good feeling bubble" which filters out bad things and we choose to stay in it rather than face a painful reality :/ And the INFP may even be CONSCIOUS of it but keep doing it anyway... It's even more serious that the normalcy bias imo...
yes
Rimmonin yes! Very true.
Truly enlightening, this video might have saved my life at some point through it. Despite initial aversion to your rather blunt and direct approach to issue, you have earned my and many other INFPs respect for it. Thank you.
I agree with you on Frank James. As an INFJ myself I don’t always feel I relate to his feelings. However, Wenzes’ vibe is the ultimate INFJ to me. She would understand me before I start speaking.
I'm guessing you dislike Fi because you're fi polr. Most first fis are very concerned about others as part of their value system. Knowing how one feels isn't selfish, it's self awareness.
Shannon Elisha immature INFPs are completely selfish.
Selfish is not about knowing how one feels, it's about not caring of how others feel, because you feels that their feelings is less important to you.
That's is definition of selfish. Selfish in Fe terms has nothing to do with your self awareness about your feelings. It's about others, and you're blind to it.
@@honor9lite1337 fi doms aren't blind to Fe, Fe polrs are.
@@honor9lite1337 and I'm an infp 9, I definitely care what other people feel and can usually tell what they feel. Fi doesn't mean you can't read others feelings. Fi with Ne reads others pretty well.
This has been such a valuable lesson. I'm deeply touched. A true reminder to always verify my beliefs and to embrace the truth as well as the gift of humility. The part where you talked about blackmail and shedding away that fear of what's going to happen to our status made me very emotional. You can clearly tell how much you care. It was very insightful, thank you for wording everything as you did.
Thank you for sharing your opinions. I realize that this is a delayed response following the creation of this.. but I just want to add (since we all have the capacity to learn and grow)... INFPs in fact do not care to oppose others opinions (if they know they are obsurd in nature - why waste the time?). In my opinion, social engineering revolves around 'social norms' which could be driven by insecurities (what underlying factors are there?). Am I 'selfish' if I do not see those influences valuable enough of my time? If you are tryping to manipulate or social engineer - why engage? Dear INFPs take this as a shared opinion - it is defniitely not a specialized science and it should not be taking personally. Once as I left a dinner with friends to workout they just couldn't believe that I was leaving to 'workout' because that's not a 'social norm'... but, it's highly healthy and definitely not selfish. I agree with his opinion - be selfish and do not let people dictate your actions (as long as they are healthy!).
I really love your views on infps. It helps me grow as an infp. Thank you.
Min 55- that same polyamory issue happened between my INFP boyfriend and his ENFJ ex. Fortunately, he eventually left her because he has a monogamous heart. And now he’s all mine! And I will never ever treat him that way. -ISTP
Aw
I’m grateful to have found your lectures at this point in my life. I’m keenly aware of not INFP’s but all human beings capacity to be manipulated. I’ve been deep diving into dark phycology, pimping, slavery, Machiavellian politics, and similar to see the common threads linking these controls over peoples. Even the harshest physical abuse used in the worst of these practices were physiological in their intended impact.
We are stepping into a age where human social and phycological manipulations could very well become a reality, and combined with the power of AI and other technologies could become a very real threat to the sovereignty of the individual human experience.
You said/referenced something the other day that stuck with me.
“As long as men die men will always be free”
Charlie Chapman, From the great dictator.
Me MUST, build our resilience with intimate knowledge of our species along personal development and integrity.
The human animal, a technically multi solar body planetary apex predator, with “super human” capabilities and cognitive capacities, seems to have been dumbed down into some form of domestic pet intended for labor of the shortsightedness rather than greatness we could achieve were we not restrained repeatedly.
Thank you for what you do, you have been a sincere inspiration.
Really like this new format were you're doing it on a PDF and constantly interacting with the whiteboard. My notes have never looked more clean.
This is a video I will go back and watch many times. Thank you for making this video, I really needed to hear this. Much appreciated ❤
Thank you. My fiancée is an INFP and i am an INFJ. My desire for my partner is that he stop being so lazy. He is so gifted and very intuitive, but he only shares with me and not the world for fear of not being accepted and of being rejected. I want so badly to encourage if not manipulate him to use his insight, philosophies for more than to judge the world. Meanwhile he doesn’t take responsibility. How to encourage him to become more courageous!
Just accept us. We're late bloomers so settle for the long haul and you'll eventually be amazed.
That's okay CSJ most people don't like us. I think if I had to hang out with myself I might get on my own nerves...But it's hard to change...I really think I'm just hard wired this way.
Aw yeah!!! I'm an INFP, and I gave this a thumbs up before seeing it, because I know it's going to be dope. Thank you for all you do, Chase!
This video made me feel so naive as an INFP
Congrats. I guess it was its purpose.
My selfishness and laziness have always been so hard to overcome, just really rotten parts of my personality (INFP)
As an INFP I grew up with a family of sensors & here's what I love & hate
Dad ISTP: I still kinda find hard to follow & sorta dislike his blunt practical way of thinking but now I find interesting & willing to try it even if he's dismissing my feelings for a logical solution makes things easier in my life. I love when he shows me how to use tools (even if i get extreme anxiety using saws & hammers & maybe dropped some things or two that resulted in accidental injury) w/out the use of much math to help build furniture or any frame work or even setting up floors in the house. I used to get depressed with his insensitive additude towards life but now I find some freedom in it unless he takes a blind persons walking stick as a fun game of "Marko pollo" to get his stick back as an award or use substances for adrenaline.
My younger sister ISFP: I dislike & get worried too much about her self esteem but getting her to do things that she likes, helped w/out illegal substances. I got used to my father so her blunt additude is not bad at all for my sensitivity. I find it quite charming & very inspiring to be around her & tells me bad habits I don't notice in myself & vice versa.
My dad's gf ESFP: hate the drama attached to her, & get into drama I didn't even known I was in. But in the bright side she got me the motivation I needed to get to know people not for friends but just for the sake of fun. Got me to get into dance classes & made it feel okay to be with people but constantly have to deal with her mood swings & distractiveness but made me feel more confrontational.
For my mom an INFP I have to be like an ENFJ all the time to get her to open up about her thoughts.
The problem with this is that, growing up with my father made me less empathetic as time went on, I suppressed two main emotions, sadness & love. I will explode with rage when I'm sad & can't identify love anymore irl unless it's from a book (which I haven't read in 4 years)& has to be 3rd person POV or else real love is so boring. But I don't get it doesn't being in the moment get you in touch with those feelings? & I'm being less idealistic. I stopped trying to think so much too, intuition is starting to feel like a bad voice in my head instead rather than a wise one & makes me feel like mad like mom telling me I'm doing something wrong. Am I doing something wrong if at the same time I feel more happy than before?
I'm really sorry about what happened to You
Chase you hate infps , but we love you dude,you like our saviour.
I don’t hate them. I am just real with them. Which means I love them more than everyone else who just tolerates them.
@@CSJosephhhh justifying being mean with being honest. But yeah we like you
This gentleman is extremely perceptive and brilliant, to be honest i had a even a tear. He is right about the INFP and most importantly, this is what I was looking for that TI is becoming the champion form for the INFP. I was just describing it, not long ago if you could not describe it Mr CS Joseph, but from what I can see you have materials about it on your private site. Great, maybe I'll be tempted after the payment to buy them. Thank you very much for your work, the INFPs really need help and you are certainly giving it to us. Fantastic preching.
Thanks for acknowledging that, given the right information INFPs have POWER! My sister always said I could talk the birds out of the trees….I need to tap into that potential…
C.S. Joseph is sure doing a good job feeding my paranoia.... goddamnit
The only lesson everyone needs: "Trust absolutely no one"
This really made me feel cared for. I value the work you do for the world and how you show that you really do care about helping people. Thank you so much for this, i truly wish you the best.
Thank you for being hard on infp. I needed that. Was in tears by the end. Thank you
What Chase is saying here about Humility being key for social reputation is true. I thought I was INFJ for a long time like Frank James, but once I accepted the truth, those on Chase’s channel appreciated me more. Please consider these words.
Is INFP the most unsure type about being an INFP?
yes I would say so
@@CSJoseph stop speaking from ignorance
I'm infp and I'm very certain of that
@@ginavega1892 Meanwhile, I've been typed as an infp for nearly a decade and I've been fighting that diagnosis at every step and every turn and am still unsure of myself even though almost every description and video and essay seems to have me pegged to a goddamn T. Learn that your experiences are not universal, even when speaking within your type.
Absolutely not. It's the complete opposite. Fi knows what it is and what it wants. INFPS know themselves. That's what Fi is.
Ne doms tend to question what type they are the most.
@@alydiaforten5011 no Ni is about what you want Fi is about an awareness of your own feelings
I'm scared
^exactly
This presentation is brilliant. So spot on about INFP weak points, and im saying that as one myself. im going to socially engineer myself with the threat of public shaming, which really just involves pulling my head out of my lazy ass and looking at reality. Thats a thing right, manipulating yourself ? Your brutal honesty is a great antidote
Yes, I also am trying to socially engineer myself on some major areas in my life now. Obviously, I think the best way to protect oneself from things like public shaming is to to not only be good in reputation but in real life, too. Obviously, no one is perfect but making sure my reputation and true self are one in the same seems a much more genuine idea than just always trying to persuade what others think about me. I never really realized how easily it would be for someone to manipulate me until I saw this. It definitely makes me think of all the possibilities in the future. And I want to come out okay if it ever happens:)
Finally, these fluffy INFP creatures😂^^
I question now if I am an INFP. Because I don't think like :"the truth is what the most people think... " I am more like the opposite. I think like "if everyone believes that- there might be a high risk for it to not be the truth."
!!! Well said. Look for inner truth of things not what everyone says is truth.
Exactly! I do the same 😆
INFP here, a few more famous INFPs that I love...Jonny Depp, van Gogh, kurt Cobain, chris martin of coldplay, poe, and Shakespeare.
the fake boxing fight scene from robert greene is actually on the 48 laws of power btw (law 3: conceal your intentions)
thank you sir
Wow thank you for putting this video together! I am so easily swayed by the normalcy bias. Love the self awareness you offer!!
This guy is a prototypical robot 🤖 who thinks all INFPs are soft as charmen and that we care about the direction THEY seek in US.
Well that’s part of why we don’t get along phenomenally.. we seriously do not care bout the lifestyle they foresee in us, they don’t buzz off...
As a fully actualized INFP (an oxymoron btw), I enjoy this. Cannot fathom me being social engineered. Humorous to even think about someone bringing me beyond my absolutes. Reading much, especially the Bible and the art of war. Learning how to sacrifice and lose is the winning way.Leading nothing. Controlling nothing. My joy is helping in the hidden ways. I enjoy your friction.
I really wish that the engineering INTJs was as long and detailed as this one.
Forget about it. It's far better and less time consuming if you're on the same side with an INTJs.
literary no one manipulated me...
hints for why: apathy
no one feeds my functions. there's no compatibility
Gen X INFP here, and 30 mins in, I have no idea who you are talking about.
All I know is that positive reinforcement works wonders IF the INFP is intrigued with the source. Although painfully simple, most ppl don't know how to do positive reinforcement anymore. The culture (or lack thereof) has become too narcissistic, too insular. I watch ppl on dates sit and text on their phones for almost the entire meal... So dismally rude that of course they don't know how to provide a positive stimulus to condition anyone, not even a lonely INFP.
The reason why operant conditioning works is because when an INFP is reassured and feels recognized, they can achieve unbelievable success. It's like, finally, validation... And you'd be amazed at what that does for them creatively. But, as most ppl are far more selfish than the INFP you're calling selfish, during just general conversation alone, we don't even bother.
Also, many INFPs have had to deal with narcissists. If a person actually attempts to understand an INFP, they will see INFPs readily admit to the damage. And, they admit to it even tho they know everyone is all, "Hey, don't be a victim, change the narrative... Blah, blah, blah, I spout bossy, self-important crap..." How about don't be a jerk? Maybe you'll evolve to become an INFP one day if you get out of that bossy mindset and actually listen to someone's wisdom.
I can only spk for myself, but I can spot MK a mile off. I honestly can't understand what you're talking about, because I'm the one that goes against the group to point it out, even tho when eventually time and reality shows I was actually right, no one ever comes to me and acknowledges it. And, I already know they won't before I even think to mention it. But f groupthink.
Sleep through black Friday, chemtrails are real, Epstein not only didn't kill himself he's under witness protection somewhere not on Google maps and is distracting everyone from far worse things going on... And, I reserve the right to change my mind on any of that should more information become available to the contrary.
Very self-centered response, but if you're going to make such critical statements, the response will be personal, and that's not being selfish. That's called sharing. You're welcome.
Edit: Ok, watched it up until questions, and after you FINALLY gave a personal example of what happened to you and that INFP prof, ok, I see where you're coming from. However, this warning does not apply to me, as funnily enough, I often use that quote, "The truth will set you free."
The professor you mention... Did he never hear of cognitive dissonance? All that education, and he still didn't avoid that nasty pitfall?
Also, your boss... Homelessness is not to be taken lightly... but without your standing up to him, would you be where you are today? The truth will set you free... Aren't you better off not working for him, even being homeless, than being under HIM as a master?
Not all of us INFPs are weak flakes who are so easily corrupted. In fact, our values are so sacred no INFP worth their salt will give them up for some low end gutter tramp. I know there are those tho... But, they ought to be typed differently, imho.
have you verified against INTP just in case? This argument sounds pragmatic, not affiliative
@@CSJoseph , thank you... maybe? (I hate what happened to you because of that INFP and manipulator. Somebody should've been watching out for you.) You're asking if I could be INTP? Is that the question? I'm highly educated, (also highly stressed out atm) with an INTP mother (ISTJ father), so that may be the explanation. I learned my writing style from the INTP (which served well in academia), can wear 'masks' as needed, and have been communicating a lot with foreign T males for most of my adult life. I'm actually a high F and high P, I flips to E in certain situations.
High IQ (believe it or not) also has something to do with it. Extreme interests in the arts, but who makes money from that in this world, so studied humanities (which is more of an art anyway). Have BS and MS (because I can do science, not because of T, but because of intelligence).
Been talking to an ENTJ a lot recently, as well.
Sorry, oversharing as usual. :/ Thanks for asking (if that's what you meant?).
We are very easily manipulated, for sure.. People only have to make us feel special for us to believe anything they say..
But also, how can I know you are not manipulating me into believing I am easily manipulated? 😂
NO. I can usually see past other's BS, especially aimed to harm myself, but I also see when someone's being shady in general with others, and people believe me when it's too late.
@@ninaj6051 It is easy to see when people are being shady, not so easy when they compliment you just to get advantage of you..
Like, in my job I had this colleague who was always complimenting me.. oh you are so fast, and you will be the boss one day, you are so competent, I love working with you.. And then when the boss came, she would tell her we both did the job, when I had had all the hard work.. It was really hard to confront her since I thought we were friends, and I just didn`t want to ruin the good work environment.. Thing is she was just manipulating me.. Once I started to stand up for myself she started talking sh*t about myself, for others, behind my back, basically ruining my reputation.. Thank God I don`t care about my reputation anymore..
Peopke are just so manipulative, I don`t know if you deal with people like this..
But it is very easy for me to fall for that, even CS Joseph is known to be manipulative, and I now can see some of that..
There are people on the internet, who worked for him, that say he`s tyranic..
@@ninaj6051 we have Ti demon, or you have learn it through the way, or I don`t know
@@dianadias3 I had something similar, mostly when someone wanted to get something from me. But, even a littlest of fakeness toward me turns me off, especially when I sense the connection is not genuine, as it lacks some fundamental components of human relatedness, and when it focuses on certain stuff, but ignores others that would be natural if it was real. Also, someone suddenly noticing me and "loving me so much" and stuff, out of nowhere is a huge warning sign, as I had those experiences in social settings when I was very young and it always hurt me so bad that I couldn't even process it properly. Especially as I analyzed them already and figured out they're leechees or narcissists or sociopaths who had tricked and have kept tricking so many people. For me, it was always due to my empathic and broad-minded, benevolent nature that believes all people are fundamentally good, or at least neutral, and always have potential for good no matter what which got me in trouble and sometimes seriously traumatized. Maybe so many INFPs being masochists and for example, following this guy is due to how it's generally socially acceptable to repress kindness and treat it as stupidity and pushing intellectual, cold logic as an ideal and feelings as a poison to it.
Btw, compliments just for the sake of them are meaningless to me, especially when I don't see any reason for it when someone gives me that. I still like when I hear someone do it to me when it has some relevance within a specific context.
Or I just can't let anyone control me at all, nor dare do it, as it insults me due to my highly individualistic nature.
@@ninaj6051 just very well Said. I'm becoming more and more aware of people`s intentions.. Basically most people are not genuine. And that`s okay.. I've Also been used for believing everyone is like me, everyone has good Will.. But that couldn't be further from The truth.. There is a of evil people out there, and still even The neutral ones are always a bit selfish to The point they Will not stand out for you if it Damages them.
It is sad to live in a world like This . But at least we are aware of it now..
Yeah, I just don't know why people in MBTI just insult people who are feelers, Speacially introverted feelers.. And it is even gross when they know it is in out nature, it is was program